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Tournament Winners Reports Archive 2002 By Kevin Block-Schwenk (Starfurry) on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:17 am: Edit Results from Total Confusions XVI, Andover MA, 2/21-2/24. We had over 20 players in the Rated Ace tournament--more than last year. Thanks again to Joe Kwiatkowski for judging. The tree was as follows: Quarterfinals: Kevin Block-Schwenk (Lyran) defeated Dan Beauley (Neo_Tholian). Petar Bakija (Kzinti) defeated David Chen (Hydran). Brett Johnson (ISC) defeated Mark Russman (Lyran). Marcus Gingerich (Hydran) defeated James Lebak (Kzinti). Semifinals: Kevin (Lyr) defeated Pater (Kz). Brett (ISC) defeated Marcus (Hyd). Finals Brett (ISC) defeated Kevin (Lyr). Congrats to Brett for winning his First Ace Card! It was a great tournament overall. The final 8 was a very tough crowd, and some excellent players didn't make it. By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 09:29 pm: Edit Congrats Brett! Totalcon was a blast--I think we had, like, 22 total players, everyone seemed really cool, Joe did a great job, and all of my games were great fun. Thanks to everyone! -Peter By Chris Proper (Dukeroget) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:15 am: Edit Peter, I just want you to know how disappointed I am with you. Beaten by a Lyran? By Brett W. Johnson (Bjohnson) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 09:34 am: Edit I have to agree with Kevin & Peter, it was an excellent tournament and it was *great* to see & play with all of you again!

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Tournament Winners Reports Archive 2002

By Kevin Block-Schwenk (Starfurry) on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 11:17 am: Edit

Results from Total Confusions XVI, Andover MA, 2/21-2/24.

We had over 20 players in the Rated Ace tournament--more than last year. Thanks again to Joe Kwiatkowski for judging.

The tree was as follows:

Quarterfinals: Kevin Block-Schwenk (Lyran) defeated Dan Beauley (Neo_Tholian). Petar Bakija (Kzinti) defeated David Chen (Hydran). Brett Johnson (ISC) defeated Mark Russman (Lyran). Marcus Gingerich (Hydran) defeated James Lebak (Kzinti).

Semifinals: Kevin (Lyr) defeated Pater (Kz). Brett (ISC) defeated Marcus (Hyd).

Finals Brett (ISC) defeated Kevin (Lyr).

Congrats to Brett for winning his First Ace Card!

It was a great tournament overall. The final 8 was a very tough crowd, and some excellent players didn't make it.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, February 25, 2002 - 09:29 pm: Edit

Congrats Brett!

Totalcon was a blast--I think we had, like, 22 total players, everyone seemed really cool, Joe did a great job, and all of my games were great fun.

Thanks to everyone!

-Peter

By Chris Proper (Dukeroget) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 12:15 am: Edit

Peter, I just want you to know how disappointed I am with you. Beaten by a Lyran?

By Brett W. Johnson (Bjohnson) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 09:34 am: Edit

I have to agree with Kevin & Peter, it was an excellent tournament and it was *great* to see & play with all of you again!

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Hope to see everyone again next year at Total Confusion and maybe even Origins (*finally*).

V/R - brett

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 11:59 am: Edit

A hearty congrats to Brett, who achieved two mighty deeds in one stroke even before facing down Kevin (in what was a nasty, bloody game in and of itself).

1. He convinced me to get out of bed to play a 7:30 a.m. game. I don't even get up til 9:00 on weekdays!!

2. He put me in a situation where I had a range 1 shot on him but would have lost a few impulses later if I took it.

Thanks to Joe and all the other players.

Game of the weekend - Peter Bakija(Zin) vs. Dave Cheng(Hydran) in the round of 8 that lasted til 2:00 am on saturday night. Just after Dave had completed a 5+ hour marathon vs. Kevin's Lyran. I think the poor guy's head was going to explode.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 07:08 pm: Edit

Marcus,

That game vs Dave was the most fun I had all weekend! I'm glad that we were fun to watch. Dave was an excellent player and a great guy, and that game was very scrappy. Totally entertaining!

Chris,

Not only did I lose to a Lyran, but I lost to a Lyran twice :-)

Granted, both of them were Block-Schwenk, but hey, a Lyran is a Lyran.

The first game I lost 'cause I was stoopid, and when I was totally in the drivers seat, I accidentally got myself 16 completely uneccessary internals by handing my opponent my down sheild at close range when I had absolutely no need to do so. Mostly, I was just dumb and sloppy.

The second game I lost 'cause I decided to try a crazy suicide anchor, hoping Kevin wouldn't throw paper when I threw rock. Sadly, he threw paper.

-Peter

By Kevin Block-Schwenk (Starfurry) on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 - 10:15 pm: Edit

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My personal favorite game had to be the quarterfinals, in which my first (and only) shot at my opponent was a full alpha, centerlining him at range 0.

Peter totally had me in that first game until he both screwed up, then rolled terribly. Average rolls after his screwup would've still won him the game. The finals game resembed Peter and my 2nd game, only this time I got bit when I guessed/hoped Brett would park, but instead he ran.

By Jeremy B. Williams (Epee9) on Sunday, March 03, 2002 - 12:55 pm: Edit

Ithaca Rule #1: Chris is not allowed to fly Lyran unless he has an active ace card. Chris will always seek an excuse to fly Lyran. Ithaca Rule #2: Peter always chokes in the later rounds.

Chris, Good to see you're back.

By Kerry Mullan (Nomadwyn) on Wednesday, March 20, 2002 - 04:54 pm: Edit

For Winter War 2002 on Feb 1 of this year. A total of 11 participants entered, with Leslie Richardson coming in first(he went 5-0) and he was flying the ISC tourney cruiser. Overall most seemed to have fun, but the turnout was lower than expected. I was locked out of the board for awile until I just got a new ID, my apologies for posting a month afterwards.

By Ken Burnside (Ken_Burnside) on Thursday, March 21, 2002 - 12:34 pm: Edit

This is the second SFB tournament in the MidWest that Leslie has A) defeated an 11 person field, and B) won in the ISC.

I smell a plague rat.

By Andreas Pauly (Bluestone) on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 06:54 pm: Edit

Hmmmm, If i played the Kzintis vs. Hydran the Hydran kills me every time.He frags my drones and then he overruned me . What must i do Petar?

By Andrew Dederer (Drew) on Sunday, March 24, 2002 - 11:41 pm: Edit

Make it so he has to shoot your drones while you're close to him. The Kzinti can win an extended range duel with the Hydran, but it's mostly up to the dice (the Kzinti is one of the few ships that doesn't outclass the Hydran at long overload range).

Seperate the fighters if you can (shoot them if you must). But force him to shoot drones then close once he does.

Most people put the Kzinti at 60% to win. Expert Hydrans call this one even. It all depends on how well the Hydran deals with drones.

By Jeremy B. Williams (Epee9) on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 03:36 am: Edit

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Drew wrote:

Quote:

Expert Hydrans call this one even.

Taking HIS into account, it must be a Kzinti advantage, then.

By Andreas Pauly (Bluestone) on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 04:13 am: Edit

Hmmmm that is a good idea i will test it. Thx

By Andrew Dederer (Drew) on Tuesday, March 26, 2002 - 08:54 pm: Edit

Actually it's not the matchup of ship skill that causes the skewing (which is there at some lower levels) it's TLM versus drones. If you're skilled enough to handle medium drones with confidence you're at least even regardless of the Kzinti's skill. Drones can only get so smart, once you're smarter a lot of matchup odds change.

By Steven J. Hecker (Stevehecker) on Wednesday, March 27, 2002 - 11:16 am: Edit

Andreas:

I fly the Kzinti against the Drew's Hyrdan so many times, I have lost track. Practise and in Tourney's.

I have more comments if interested, but let me know in the Tactics thread, not this one.

By Andrew Harding (Warlock) on Sunday, March 31, 2002 - 11:21 pm: Edit

Results of SFB at Conquest 2002

Held in Melbourne, March 30-31.

Disappointing number of entries (4 players) - round robin style used twice, finals skipped. Lesson learned about the need for marketing rather than relying on the convention flyer.

1st John Wouters (Kzin), 6-0. 2nd Keith Gillies (Gorn), 4-2.

By L.LeBlanc (Lessss) on Monday, April 01, 2002 - 02:09 am: Edit

Wow that's about a 300% advantage in numbers over the number of people that showed up for SFB the last convention round here.

By Hugh Bishop (Wildman) on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 07:41 pm: Edit

This is to report the Top four from Desert Wars in Las Vegas.

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Jared Lemon defeated Vince Weibert for 1st place overall, he flew the Wyn Aux BC and Vince flew the TKE. 3rd and 4th place went to Alejandro Santamaria and Ken Tam who both flew the ISC. There were 12 players and a variety of ships were entered, including 2 Kzinti, 1Rom KR, 1 Orion, 1 Ldr, 2 Feds, and 1 Gorn. I sent in the written report and hopefully Desert Wars will qualify as a Squadron Major event.

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 10:43 pm: Edit

What were the options in the Aux? Stephen

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Wednesday, April 17, 2002 - 09:05 pm: Edit

Bump: What were the options in the winning Aux at Desert Wars?

Stephen

By Alex Chobot (Alendrel) on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 12:40 pm: Edit

SEATTLE SQUADRON MAJOR

Unfortunately, we only had 5 people to show up. Good news is that every had fun, getting a few tourney deuls in earlier. When it became apparent that we weren't gonna get 8 people, we set up for Death Race 3000 and had a blast with that.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Sunday, April 21, 2002 - 04:41 pm: Edit

Hey! Lets have a full report on what happened in my favorite scenario.

By Vince Weibert (Vybert) on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 05:25 pm: Edit

Desert Wars

Jareds Aux package was 2 F-torps in the nose, a P-1 and a drone in the wings.

Was a fun con. All the people there were great to play with and kudos to Wildman for good organization.

Final game ended when I HETd behind Jared and began coming out of cloak to smack him the next turn and HET'd the pig back in my face and smacked me instead . Game could have run a lot longer but we both decided to make a go of it as, heck, we were in Vegas and it was gettin late

Spent the rest of my night at the craps table trying to roll torpedo hits

Vince

By Stephen McCann (Moose) on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 08:12 pm: Edit

Any word from Balticon? How many players, what ships and who won? (Says the

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man who wished he could have been there but instead was home with strep throat) Stephen

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 08:21 pm: Edit

We had less then 16 people. Tim Sheehy was able to beat all comers (must have been a weak field this year.)

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Sunday, May 26, 2002 - 11:23 pm: Edit

Ships in final?

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 07:55 am: Edit

My TLM vs Tim's ISC CM. We gutted each other, but it came down to the fact that he had torps left. With 6 torp hits, the G's on the CM are extraordinarily resilient.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Monday, May 27, 2002 - 11:31 pm: Edit

No more resilient than S torps on any plasma ship Andy...

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 07:28 am: Edit

With 6 torp hits it will take the 6th hit to kill the last G torp, instead of 4th or more likely 5th on a big plasma ship as you will probably repair an F-Torp. The only way it would be 6th on a plasma ship is if you repaired an F-torp twice. The TCM has 4 F-torps and none of them are hit on Drone hits. Not a huge difference but could be enough in some cases.

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 08:00 am: Edit

what Ken said.

By Timothy Sheehy (Spydaer) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 03:09 pm: Edit

Game 5 6 man FFA survivor Lyran, ISC, Hydran, TKE, Fed, and Klink

Rules: (This game was invented by Ryan Peck, btw) We started on edge of normal tourney map, with randomed ships, WS III. After EA, but before imp 1 of every turn, a ‘task’ was drawn out randomly, and whoever the first person to do said task got ‘immunity’ the next turn. At the end of every turn we all voted one name. Whoever got the most votes, was entirely shieldless next turn. (You heard me right, shieldLESS) If you were immune, you couldn’t be voted.

Lyran started at 7 oclock, Fed at 5 oclock, ISC at 2 oclock, Hydran at 12 oclock, TKE at 10 oclock, and Klink at 9 oclock.

Turn 1, immunity challenge was “Go Range 0 on enemy ship”. Fed turned up towards ISC, ISC came in towards middle slowly. Hydran turned right towards

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TKE, TKE turned right towards Klink. Klink was not scared and turned left towards TKE. Lyran turned left towards Klink/TKE. Fed hit range 4 on ISC and pulled trigger, doing 27 internals to ISC, who was busy delivering an OL PPD and 2 EPTs to Fed. Fed ended turn absolutely mauled, ISC hurt but ok. On other side of map, Klink took pot shots at TKE, TKE absorbing the hits and getting range 1 on Klink, and launching 1 F torp at Klink, and applying tractor to Klink. Lyran had put up ESGs at range 3 and worked out a scheme with Klink for voting control next turn, and so slammed the crap out of TKE, hitting the TKE with a huge hammer. TKE dropped tractor on Klink, turned towards Lyran and dropped 70 in plasma on him. Turn ended with a minor hurt Klink, a Mauled Fed, a Mauled TKE, a wounded but still kicking ISC, and a pristine Hydran bearing down on Lyran that has now 61 points of plasma that will impact imp 1 on his #5. The Hydran ‘won’ the vote, and was allowed to be shieldless next turn. (The Lyran now making a deal with Hydran to exchange no fire next turn)

Turn 2, the challenge was take 21 points of damage. The Fed early got immunity next turn, as he took another volley of death from the ISC. The Hydran swept towards wall, trying to keep away from combat. Didn’t do him much good, though, as the Klink thought a Hydran with no shields was just begging to get fired upon and hit him in separate volleys with 3 disrs and 4 p1’s (Hydran losing a hellbore, a fusion, and some phasers) Even the Fed lone weapon, a p3 on an admin fired at range 13, and nailed a phaser off the Hydran. (No….I am not kidding) The Hydran and Lyran made a pact, which the Hydran certainly honored as he had range 1 on the Lyran and didn’t fire. The TKE went slow speed, (it could do little else, and restarted arming his R torp) The ISC took some potshots at the Fed shuttles, and slowly turned to center of board. The Lyran didn’t move move, nor did he have active fire control, which might have something to do with the 36 point brick he mustered up against the plasma strike, (the lone internal being a hull) The Hydran was furious with the Klink, and petitioned for next turn a vote against the Klink, and made another pact with the Lyran. The Klink ‘won’ this time, and was shieldless for the upcoming turn 3.

Turn 3, the immunity was take 21 points of damage. Which the Hydran almost immediately gained by tractoring the Lyran. The Lyran again went speed 0, trying to rearm weapons, ESGs, and everything else. The ISC, with his newly armed PPD, closed on the shieldless Klink. The Lyran fired one OL at the Klink, and than finished off the closing TKE. (The R would’ve been available next turn) The Fed, having no weapons, sped up to a mighty speed of 13 or so. The Hydran closed on the shieldless Klink, and they both hammered each other, the Hydran ending the turn weaponless, and the Klink dang near boxless. The PPD was viewed in the down shield game with extreme fear, and people voted the ISC to have the honor next.

Turn 4, the immunity was kill a shuttle. The ISC on imp 1 gained the immunity by slaying a shuttle, and he launched two envelopers at the Lyran. The Lyran ESGs came up at range 1, and the Lyran fired 4 UIM OL’s at the shieldless ISC at range

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4….netting 1 hit. (Blam) However, the 6 p1’s the Lyran netted on his ISC opponent removed every weapon from the ISC. (Lyran putting 2 p1’s into Klink, to ensure he would not be a factor) The game ended at that point, with the Lyran damaged, but having a great deal more oomph than the rest of the ships combined.

Now, the question is, who was who? (Two guys I don’t know, but Paul F, Ryan Peck, Andy Palmer, and me were 4)

By David Beeson (Beesonmonster) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 04:02 pm: Edit

Who were you?

By Nick Blank (Nickb) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 04:55 pm: Edit

What was the complete list of "tasks" or challenges?

Nick

By Jonathan Biggar (Jonb) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 06:19 pm: Edit

Sounds like a fun way to play a cutthroat game that isn't too serious.

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Tuesday, May 28, 2002 - 11:40 pm: Edit

LYR - Tim Sheehy ISC - Andy Palmer FED - Matthew Sands(?) TKE - Paul Franz HYD - Daniel Heilstad(?) KLI - Ryan Peck

By Piotr Orbis Proszynski (Orbis) on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 12:40 am: Edit

LOL. I almost replied to Tim to say that I did not know who was who, but the he was DEFINITELY NOT the Lyran... I didn't take him to be such a craven schemer! (Not that that's a bad thing in "Survivor" )

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:44 am: Edit

Oh Tim was the supreme schemer. He'd be good at DIPLOMACY.

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 06:22 pm: Edit

I know how the Torp hits work guys, just wondering if someone had forgotten the 3rd hit on torps rule or something. I think the 6 torps on the CM is ridiculously overgunned, but it doesnt protect the heavies much more than any other plasma ship once you factor in repairs.

That scenario sounds fun Tim, I'd really like to see that posted and/or published!

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Wednesday, May 29, 2002 - 07:35 pm: Edit

Geoff. I have never fought a BP ship that repaired TWO F-torps. I rarely seen any F-torps repaired over phasers. Additionally, against the ISC CA, 3 decent volleys can kill every HW on the ship; vs the CM, those same volleys will leave it with 2

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Gs and an F-torp. Instead of depending upon mizia to remove most of your opponent's firepower, you now have to go for the power kill, which changes the dynamic considerably.

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 07:17 am: Edit

But the CM gets the advantage of both G's getting hit on every third torp hit without having to use two of its four repairs on F torps.

Andy, instead of losing 3 F torps as you said above the 3rd hit would have to be a G so your scenario would likely leave the CM with 1 G and 2 F torps, right?

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 08:03 am: Edit

Ken. That's correct - would be 1 G and 2 Fs, still considerably more than the CA

would have at that point

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 12:49 pm: Edit

'SFB Survivor' has 13 Immunity Challenges. The theory was they would be selected by card draw. I was planning on tweaking it and setting up another game at Origins. It was one of the most blood thirsty and cut thoart games I have every played. Imagine doing EA when you are surrounded by 6 other ships, and knowing you have 0 shields that turn.

For a 6 six ship game we finished in about 4 hours.

PS "The Hydran was furious with the Klink, and petitioned for next turn a vote against the Klink, and made another pact with the Lyran. The Klink ‘won’ this time, and was shieldless for the upcoming turn 3. "

What every you do, don't take a bathroom brake. Deals are hard to stop when you are not at the table

By David Beeson (Beesonmonster) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 01:18 pm: Edit

Count me in. Sounds like a blast.

By Robert Snook (Verdick) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 01:34 pm: Edit

What were some of the other immunity challenges? I'm considering running that type of game at our next game night.

By Matthew J. Francois (Francois42) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 03:51 pm: Edit

That sounds absolutely cool.

I shudder to imagine it being played with, say, 8 people in PF's.

Sure, you'd probably be done in < 2 hours... ... but it would get pitiful watching someone beg to not get "voted off the shield

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generator."

'Cause remember, what do you call a PF without shields? A: An explosion

-Francois [email protected]

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Thursday, May 30, 2002 - 09:51 pm: Edit

Andy, I regularily repair at least 1 f. Its just so useful and cheap. Its the first thing I look to repair in my FH actually. Repairing a second is not an unlikely proposition either.

And yes, the CA is vulnerable to having all its heavies quickly reduced to zilch...I dont debate that.

In terms of sheer heavy weapon hits, the CM certainly does have them at 7. But in protecting the Gs, it doesnt do that much better than any heavy plasma.

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 06:41 am: Edit

Geoff. No effort vs 3-4 turns of repair is the defination of "protecting the G-torps better."

By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Friday, May 31, 2002 - 04:55 pm: Edit

Better, sure. But not anymore 'extraordinarily resilient' than other big plasma boats. I'm sure it might've felt that way though.

By Richard Sherman (Rich) on Monday, June 03, 2002 - 08:38 pm: Edit

Ryan Peck:

Please post the 13 immunity challenges. Battlegroup Tucson intends to play this game (probably in conjunction with consuming adult beverages) at it's next regular game session on June 15, 2002.

Alternatively, you could send them to me via e-mail:

[email protected]

Sound like a great game!

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Tuesday, June 04, 2002 - 03:42 pm: Edit

Rich,

I will send something out to you tonight.

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By Geoff Conn (Talonz) on Wednesday, June 05, 2002 - 02:45 pm: Edit

Any chance I could get a copy as well for play(testing)?

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 09:42 am: Edit

Rich, Geoff,

Email just went out. Sorry for the delay.

By David Beeson (Beesonmonster) on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 09:48 am: Edit

Did you not want to post them?

By Ryan Peck (Trex) on Thursday, June 06, 2002 - 10:19 am: Edit

I tell you what, I will put the entire thing up in the scenairo proposal section later tonight.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:14 pm: Edit

Norman Cruz

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Gregg Dieckhaus

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

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If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Craig Horvath: Petrick will have your pin at the tournament at Origins.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Stephen McCann

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:15 pm: Edit

Brett Johnson

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:16 pm: Edit

Seth Iniquez

You have an ace card and pin coming.

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These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:16 pm: Edit

Christopher Alper

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:16 pm: Edit

Kevin Block-Schwenk

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

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If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Steve Cole (Stevecole) on Saturday, June 29, 2002 - 11:16 pm: Edit

Andy Vancil

You have an ace card and pin coming. These are packed in an envelope addressed to you.

If you are going to Origins, please advise so we can give it to you there.

If you are not going to Origins but are placing an order for CL24 or GPD or something else, let us know and we will include it with your order.

If you are not going to Origins and are not ordering stuff, let us know and we'll mail it.

If we haven't heard from you by 3pm Monday, we will take it to Origins and, if you don't pick it up there, we'll bring it home and on 9 July we'll see if you have contacted us and if not, we will mail it.

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Sunday, June 30, 2002 - 03:39 pm: Edit

=== Steve, I don't think either Seth nor Andy are going to Origins, but as they're both members of my Battle Lab, if it's ok with you and them, I'd be happy to pick them up there and bring them home. Just an option.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 03:29 pm: Edit

Have the Origins results been posted somewhere else and I'm just not finding them, or have they not gone up anywhere yet?

Thanks, -Peter

By Craig Horvath (Rslayer) on Wednesday, July 10, 2002 - 10:07 pm: Edit

Peter,

Check the Origins 2002 thread....may have t go back a couple pages, been alot of activiy there the past couple days.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 03:57 pm: Edit

Craig,

Sadly, there is only the top 8 from Captain's (Paul put it up).

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Hopefully, the results will be posted soon.

Also, is there a list of Aces on the web site anywheres? I remember in the past at Origins there was a list of all current and past aces, but I don't remember seeing one this year. If such a record exists, it should be really easy to get up on the web site somewhere--maybe in the tournament section.

-Peter

By Joseph Butler (Admin) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 04:17 pm: Edit

The finals grids will be up this weekend, as I've been very busy at work.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Thursday, July 11, 2002 - 06:09 pm: Edit

Cool. Thanks!

-Peter

By Frank Bradford (Frankbradford) on Thursday, July 18, 2002 - 02:46 pm: Edit

Come on Joe! Let's get 'em posted...

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Wednesday, July 24, 2002 - 03:18 pm: Edit

So is there anyone out there who took a bunch of pictures at Origins who wants to put them up on a website? Someone did that last year, and it was totally hysterical to go and show my wife what I was doing for those five days :-)

I was just over at the Cheapass website, and they have a fantastic Origins photo layout, including my pal Ben Stein as Origins Cheapass Champion wearing none other than a cool SFB badge (along with hat, apron, and various other victorty medals), as well a super dorky picture of me getting killed in a game of Devil Bunny Needs a Ham.

We totally need one of those.

-Peter

By Paul Franz (Andromedan) on Thursday, July 25, 2002 - 09:53 am: Edit

I took a few. Mostly of the players, a few of the F&E boards, with one of the F&E photos actually showing the players. One of the photos shows the Lyran's with their Northern Bases destroyed. I have around 3 or 4 of the Captain's Final game including a board shot 2 impulses before Norm attempting to HET for the 3rd time. I just need time to upload them somewhere. BTW, JPEG files range in size from 400k to a little under 1 Meg.

Paul Franz

By Robert Snook (Verdick) on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:01 pm: Edit

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Results from Hexacon12, The SFB Revival: 11 players Patrol-style, best of three with a fourth for tie breaker. Mike English (Kzinti) beat out Stephen Cobb (Klingon) for first place in a tie breaker game, with Glenn Hoepfner (Neotholian) coming in third place with two wins.

Thank you everybody who came, I hope that more will show up next year and we might get an Ace card out of it and have just as much fun as we did this year. It was fun for my first time judging, everybody was very easy to work with. (Sorry Ken, I did not see a Kim Martin there.)

By Glenn Hoepfner (Ikabar) on Monday, July 29, 2002 - 03:54 pm: Edit

From my perspective, Several people (as many as 5 or 6) were former SFB players that no longer wanted to play. Most of them quit long ago (probably prior to Doomsday or when Doomsday came out). I tried hard to encourage them to give it a try again but to no avail. However, a couple were momentarily indecisive. My point is while new blood is always good to recruit (I think we had one new person who might give it another try in the future), retired blood should not be ignored where recruitment is a concern.

Robert Snook ran the whole thing very well. As much as (I'm sure) he wanted to do other things, he stuck around for the entire 2.5 days of the event (excluding sleep time) to recruit, teach and judge the tournament. Much kudos (sp) to Robert Snook.

By Vince Weibert (Vybert) on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 05:19 pm: Edit

Hey Peter,

I have a handfull of photos that my wife took. The ones I have from the digital camera I can send someone now. The 35s havent been developed yet though.

Vince

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Tuesday, July 30, 2002 - 06:11 pm: Edit

Vince wrote: >>I have a handfull of photos that my wife took. The ones I have from the digital camera I can send someone now. The 35s havent been developed yet though. >>

If you are feeling crazy and you wanna e-mail them to me, I'll put them up on my site somewhere.

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-Peter [email protected]

By Carl Trubee (Trubecar) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 04:58 pm: Edit

Results from DRAGONCON 2002 Aug 30-Sept 1

First Place: FRED MANNING in the Kzinti Second place: John Haugh- Kzinti Third place: Jeff McKelvey- Rom Firehawk Matt Galer- Fed

Congrats to Fred for his first Ace card.

Special mention to Jeff who had to fight his way through the herd of kzinti cats.

It was a good tournament, some excellent captains who came and competed.

There were alot of new players, and alot of old players who played a couple of games just for old times sake who were actually at the convention for other events, and made it into the final 8.

We had Four Kzinti, 3 Fed, 3 Klingon, and miscellaneous others.

Next year DragonCon will be running another Rated Ace Tournament, already arranged with the convention staff. Also, as a Sunday fun event, many people expressed in interest in running "Operation Cavalry Charge", SH 11.0

My thanks to the players for allowing me to judge, and for letting me watch some awesome battles. See you next year!

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 06:15 pm: Edit

== Do I misremember, or didn't Fred take a cat to 2nd at Origins Patrol this year already? ;)

By Fred Manning Jr (Fredbud) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 08:34 pm: Edit

Carl,

Thanks for Everything @ DragonCon and thanks for the Report. I did however win

my First ace Card earlier this Year in A Hydran (believe it or not Scott in Sat. Patrol @ Origins (tied for 1st).

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Carl you did a great job this year in running the Con, much better than the previous year (no offense to anyone last year)..

Thanks Fred

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Tuesday, September 03, 2002 - 09:47 pm: Edit

=== Ah, my density. Frank Bradford (IIRC), not Fred Manning. Duh. ;)

By Matthew Galer (Idiot) on Saturday, September 07, 2002 - 09:58 pm: Edit

Carl,

Thanks alot for doing a wonderful job at DragonCon. Only "mistake" you made was in insisting that your dice were terrible for a Fred - and I ended up hitting with all my photons using them!!!

Silly me bringing my own dice on Saturday...

By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:22 pm: Edit

TACTICON 2002 RESULTS

1st - Scott Moellmer, WBS (ADD/Drone-B) 2nd - Chuck Strong, Hydran 3rd - Sy Seibert, Orion (PPHBF/ffG1F) 3rd - Seth Iniquez, Hydran

Congratulations, Scott!

Thanks to all who attended. It was a great tournament and I had a lot of fun judging. Once again, Colorado shows itself to be a premier location for SFB, with two Rated Ace tournaments a year.

Tournament Statistics: Total players: 17 Novices: 3 Used to play a lot but hadn't played in 15+ years: 3

1 Fed (0-2) 2 Klingon (0-2) 1 TFH (1-3) 2 Kzinti (3-2) 1 ATC (0-2) 2 Orion (3-3) 4 Hydran (10-9) 1 Lyran (1-1)

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1 WAX (0-1) 1 WBS (7-0) 1 LDR (2-2) no TKR, TKE, Gorn, NTC, Andro, ISC or Seltorian

The final went quickly -- Chuck gave up after Scott's mizia in turn 2 stripped both hellbores and most of his phasers.

The closest match may have been the semifinal between Scott and Sy. After pummeling each other mercilessly for several turns, Scott's Shark barely blew up the Orion, which was fortunate for him because the following impulse he would have taken a type-IV on a down shield, which probably would have destroyed him.

By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Sunday, September 08, 2002 - 10:33 pm: Edit

TACTICON 2002 RESULTS

1st place in Convention Carnage: Grant Strong

The Saturday night Canisters scenario (posted on the BBS under proposals>Scenarios>Canisters) was a rousing success as players flew a variety of official and unofficial tournament ships around in an asteroid field, collecting stasis canisters filled with various goodies.

Of the 52 canisters, one enabled all weapons on a ship to become 360. Who else would get this one but Grant's Drex! He quickly demonstrated why the limited firing arcs on heavy hypercannons are so necessary, as he proceeded to inflict 100+ damage on his opponents at range 6.

This scenario also witness such oddities as a helpless Tholian (already gutted by the Drex) shoved by an Alunda ARF into the path of a SCUD missile, a Hiver Battlecruiser whose crew was distracted by Beautiful Androids, and a Legendary Engineer who could do nothing but sit in the engine room and watch the Drex CPU do all of his work.

The following ships participated: Drex, Peladine, Alunda, Chlorophon, Hiver, Orion CA and Archaeo-Tholian.

Thanks to Grant, Ray, Dan, Dave, Craig and Aaron for a fun game!

By Tom Carroll (Sandman) on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:32 am: Edit

Quote:

The final went quickly -- Chuck gave up after Scott's mizia in turn 2 stripped both hellbores and most of his phasers.

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I better not hear Scott complain about his notorious 'bad luck' anymore.

Congrats Scott!

By Tom Carroll (Sandman) on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 11:33 am: Edit

Are the 2002 Origins finals tree's posted somewhere?

By Scott Moellmer (Goofy) on Monday, September 09, 2002 - 05:08 pm: Edit

== Tom, one lucky game helps, but it don't erase YEARS of sucky dice. ;)

Thanks...

By Ken Rodeghero (Ken_Rodeghero) on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 01:07 pm: Edit

I hate to post this again but I sent e-mail to Joe Butler and Steve Petrick and got no response. I am sure things are busy but...

Is there any news on when the Origins 2002 results and finals trees will be posted on the tournament page?

Thanks,

Ken

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:13 pm: Edit

I too am (still) interested. Paul Scott has already posted the Captains tree; all that is missing is the Patrol tree.

I would bet that with how many people follow this discussion board, we could recreate the Patrol tree (or at least most of it) ourselves. I would be happy to collect the data if people want to email me info on individual Patrol final games.

By Marcus J. Giegerich (Marcusg) on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:34 pm: Edit

Ken, Where is Paul's Captain's tree? Marcus

By Ken Lin (Old_School) on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:43 pm: Edit

Marcus, It's under the Origins 2002 topic, under the July 7 archive. Ken

By Andy Palmer (Andypalmer) on Friday, September 20, 2002 - 02:49 pm: Edit

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Patrol. Round of 16 Andy Palmer (TLM) vs Peter Bakija (KZI)

won by Peter.

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Saturday, September 21, 2002 - 05:01 pm: Edit

In the name of piecemealing this thing together...

Round of 8 Peter Bakija (Kzi) v Gregg Dieckhaus (Lyr). Peter wins

Round of 4 Peter Bakija (Kzi) v Frank Bradford (Kzi) Frank wins

Finals Frank Bradford (Kzi) v Tom Carroll (Lyr) Tom wins

-Peter

By Paul Scott (The_Rock) on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 02:41 am: Edit

How is it that 2 months after Origins this tree is not posted? :/

I'll figure Patrol out, make a PDF, and post them both here.

By Joseph Butler (Admin) on Sunday, September 22, 2002 - 09:32 pm: Edit

Origins 2002 results posted!!!

http://www.starfleetgames.com/sfb/tournament/02org.htm

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Sunday, October 13, 2002 - 08:49 pm: Edit

Well, as I'm itching to see who won...

Council of 5 Nations had a solid 16 player rated Ace tournament this weekend in Albany NY, run by David Cheng. When last I looked, the results were:

Third: Me (Kzinti) and Andrew Sackett (Orion H,H,G,d,1) Finals: Marc Russman (Archeo) vs Bryan Evans (TKR)

Sadly, I haven't heard who won yet.

-Peter

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 01:57 pm: Edit

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As it turns out, Brian (TKR) beat Mark (Archeo).

Congrats to Brian, a first time Ace!

-Peter

By Andy Vancil (Andy) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:25 pm: Edit

It would be interesting to hear how Brian pulled it off - that's a difficult matchup!

By Peter D Bakija (Bakija) on Monday, October 14, 2002 - 07:46 pm: Edit

The Archeo is really tough for the TKR, what with it being both a 2/3 move ship and Web Caster equipped. I didn't see the match up, but from what I hear, Brian got lucky with a volley of bolts. I in no way mean to downplay his victory at all, as even if you get lucky you need to get in a good position to get lucky, and then be able to capitalize upon the luckiness, but I think he got, like, a R5 or so bolt shot on the Tholian, and jackpotted with 4 hits.

-Peter

By Frank DeMaris (Kemaris) on Tuesday, October 15, 2002 - 04:07 am: Edit

Hmm, range 5 bolt jackpot ... 35-40 internals.