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Transcript of BrickintheWallhi9:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

sup9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

grit9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

Do crabs think fish can fly?9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

no9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

is water wet?9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

Very well9:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

no9:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

If the universe is always expanding, what is it expanding into? Whats on the other side?9:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

The human brain also doesn't know how the human brain works9:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Even better Jack, wow9:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

deep9:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

hey9:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

Your age is the number of times youve orbited the sun9:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

noah is so annoying9:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

What does it mean by potential player9:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

How many people have traveled internationally?9:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Me9:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Koby

Americans are behind world powers in preparedness. We aren't learning the skills that arerelevant for future industries9:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

does puerto rico and virgin islands and canada count9:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby



The countries are9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

I feel that we as a people should try our hardest to prepare ourselves for the world and future9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

It means someone who plays a role in society and actually does things to contribute tosociety. @lo9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

"potential player" means future participant9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

*other countries are9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

I think this is only true to a degree. There are many people who are very intelligent here inAmerica. I feel that we also foster creativity9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I mean, seeing our educational system compared to other countries like Finland, makes mewish that i could just go to a better country.9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Yeah i think it matters because i think it puts us at a disadvantage as a society9:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ty

We may foster creativity but do we actually learn relevant skills in school?9:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Has your education lacked anything?9:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

we do foster creativity but compared to the rest of the world we are behind especially inyouth.9:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I disagree with Abbie. I do not think american schools foster creativity. I've even had artteachers, of all people, tell me how to draw 1/29:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

I think that we are behind when we have the ability to be the leader, but we are holdingourselves back by sticking to a stagnant education.9:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

even when my style is completely different than what they are telling me to do 2/29:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

How many people know how to balance a check book? or make payments on certain things.9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

I believe my eucatio n has lacked a personal conection which helps me learn better9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

Education is everything. The world is a connected system where impacts in one country effectanother.America first isn't going to change any9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

I'm glad kids at my school are teaching me how to eat Tide Pods.9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Is there anything we can learn from people who are "behind" us academically speaking?9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR



I think as much as our education is lacking, we have to be doing something right.9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

I also think that America does not place importance on real life things. Jack is right. Mostteens probably do not how to manage money9:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

Look at all the successful Americans10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Thus we should promote education more in order to remain competitive.10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

the future industries are in tech and business and the medical field, we aren't learning muchthat pertains to those things10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

I wasn't saying in school I was saying in America in general we let people express their ideas.10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

No be cause we haven't been taught10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

Rich, do you teach because you love it or for the money?10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

We could use more vocational training.10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

Kentucky is cutting the educational budget drastically and it is hurting elementary throughcollege education.10:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I think the problem is not promoting education, rather making it more applicable to what wereinterested in and to what we want to do.10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

We need to prioritize education as a society, instead of popularity or physical appearance sothat people will actually take an interest in10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

learning10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

I feel like the "bad kids" are oppressed and given up on.10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

I disagree Jack\10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

also we don't learn life skills we just learn to get to college. Not necessarily to learn, but tomeet standards10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Yees not taught to be better10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

BET10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Are there degrees of marginalization?10:01am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the people here who are the most oppressed are the kids in remedial classes.



10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Jake V, I'm looking for what you said... copy and paste it again.10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the remedial kids get the lowest quality education because they are in class with the leastmotivated kids10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

no one wants to be at school and learn. Think about it, each day we were wanting for thatsnow day.10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

I agree with Jacob, there are lots of classes we take that won't be applicable to real life, thenwe forget that information again.10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jozie

We're treated like robots that memorize information when we should be treated like humanswith interests of our own.10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

They're given up on.10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

I dont think they are given up on, I think every teacher here does a great job at connectingwith the students and they always try to10:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

I agree with that jacob10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

Teachers will sit in the lounge and gossip about the kids who will give them trouble.10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

there are kids in those classes that are trying but can't succeed because they are stigmatizedby the people they're in class with10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

motivate them to try harder but the kids put it on themselves to stop trying10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

My papa asked if we were learning things like how to do taxes and other stuff and sadly i hadto say no.10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I wish that we had more classes geared towards specific areas so that we could study what weare actually interested in10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

Jack, you're right...10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Jack, you're right10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

K10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

rich prob gossips ab u jack10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

I wouldnt doubt it10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack



"prob"10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the only problem with specializing schools to specific ideas and allowing students to choosewhat they learn for life after school is (1/2)10:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

i feelif we could take classes we were interested in rather than ones to meet requirements wewould do better10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

Could you teach yourself to do your taxes?10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

there could still be requirements10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

that who knew what they wanted to do with their lives freshman year? many of us still don'tknow10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Maybe you all have just had cruddy teachers, my teachers will do anything in there power tohelp me10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

but I had a ton of space in my schedule this year and i would have liked to have taken morerelavent electives10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

Your papa, I'm assuming, is your grandfather? If so, he lived in a time when there was noInternet.10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

their*10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

we shouldn't have to teach ourselves to do taxes. thats a valuable skill that should be taughtin school @rich10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

dang10:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

rich i need help..10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

*their @adumb10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

How does Finland do it? In the Finland Phenomenon it said that their schools are gearedtoward their future.10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

yes but i feel like it would be learned better in school.10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

but if there was a lesson on taxes, finances, etc. how many kids would listen?10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

And im not saying ALL teachers do it but remember the TED Talk about "The Dangers of aSingle Story" How are we supposed to move forward10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack



Most kids now in days have a hard time learning and wanting to go to school because all theycan think about is Fortnite10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

True @Abbie10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

if we keep labeling people10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

what if I taught you how to use a tool instead of doing a job with that tool for you.10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

?10:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

we lack a passion for education10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Yeah I think the culture in Finland helps too. Although, that isn't the only driving factor.10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

taxes=filling out forms10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

thats the problem we don't want to learn it and we find it boring but we have to in order tosuceed10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

if we weren't forced to go to school, do you think we would like it better?10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

who listens to stuff in school now. at least some of the stuff would be practical @abbie10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

learning how to use the Internet to its fullest is super important...10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

No @abby, look at college10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

The real question is how do we create a passion for education so that we are no longercomplacent on a Global scale.10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

you dont have to go so a lot of people skip10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

yet we don't have a tech class or a typing class @rich10:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

ooooooooo10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

I'm excited ab college @adumb10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

my mom has taught me how to do a lot of these things so can you choose to learn thosethings or are they required10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Ah, now you're onto something, Nathan10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Im not @ abby



10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

People are passionate for their education when they are learning about things they enjoy10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jozie

but will you be excited about all of your classes? @abby10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

It seemed like the higher grades in Finland schools were similar to10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Matthew

If we weren't forced to go to school, no one would choose to go. You can be "successful" in somany other ways over social media and other10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

things10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

soorrryyyyy @aDUMB10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

many of the schools in JCPS have to take basic coding classes so they can at least understandit.10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

But im glad i know what the powerhouse of a cell is10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Abbie, that's a great point. What role do moms and dads play?10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

true@jack10:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

american colleges where you could pick classes and didn't have to be in a building for 7consecutive hours10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Matthew

I disagree with Maria. I think more people appreciate the structure of school than they think,even if they do not realize10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

But @MJR I don't know much at all about what or how I handle taxes, house payments, bankloans, etc.10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Koby

People may not come to school at first, but over time I think people would come back10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

I think that if we weren't forced to go to school though, most people would take the easy wayout @jessica10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

Should your parents be required to teach you certain life skills. not everyone's parents arewilling or know how to teach those skills.10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

I personally like school. I always have but most people think I am crazy because of that10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

we fall in love with the idea of college, the dorm life and the social interactions and freedoms.Most people don't look forward to a class10:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon



you should be if you're excited about what you're learning @doyon10:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

i am very excited about my classes because i am learning about something im passionateabout10:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

but not all classes explicitly pertain to a major or profession. what about those requiredclasses everyone has to take?10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Ouch10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

adam is stupid10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

Are you excited about the classes that don't matter?10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

aDUMB10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Ive looked at the classes in my major, and most of them sound wonderful. However I will sayI do think most people just focus on the freedom10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

does Finland play Fortnite?10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

duh10:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ben

Nah they are smart so they play PUBG10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Yes @nathan10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

remember that guy we played w/ last night10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ben

what about PUBG10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

PUBG is trash10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

I don't have any gen ed classes next year because I took them this year. so you could say ourschool is doing something right10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Manual is the top school in the state and they use specialized magnets so it must be working.10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

thats a good point, our current education system is doing a decent job at preparing us forcollege @abbie10:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

but they also get to hand pick their students10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

JACK SPEAK UP10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb



Either that or college has been molded to accept the american education system10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

@Doyon10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

What do think is useless crap? What courses wouldn't you take if you had the choice NOT totake them?10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

any higher math....@rich10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

but then what happens to the kids who don't get in? @sean10:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

art10:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

myths and legends10:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

"one man's trash is another man's treasure."- Jack K 201810:14am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

well there are other schools that you can still go to for different specializations like im prettysure eastern is good with business10:14am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

@abbie10:14am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

- Macklemore 201410:14am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Just about everybody seems to agree that America’s education needs to be changed, butnobody is actually doing anything about it10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

knowledge- lambo guy10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

So, are students with nontraditional intellectual curiosity/interests marginalized at SOHS?10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

one of the articles I read talked about how the system isn't broken, but has room to improve10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

bookshelf - lambo guy10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

our system works ok, but we need to make it better. its not as good as it could be10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

you have to be in a middle school that feeds into eastern & lots of people aren't so whathappens if you don't get into manual and you feed10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Nobody really knows how to do it in a democratic society because enough people will notagree on how to actually make a change10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

into a bad school10:15am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie



So we are stuck unable to change the system10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

it is broken i agree but nobody seems to have the perseverance to change it10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

You go to a private school @abbie10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

what if you don't have the money?10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

The question is not what the problem is, it's how do we go about changing a national systemwhere many people are too stubborn to change.10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

our system works for us because of where we live. Doesn't work everywhere else or foreveryone else.10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

@abbie, some would say vouchers could work10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I don't know i was really just saying that since manual does specialization and its a top schoolthere must be a connection there. @abbie10:16am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I feel like public schools already have such a bad reputation that no one is going to try to helpthem, but rather focus on private schools10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

we aren't necessarily stuck. We can abandon the system and be homeschooled, go tocharter/private schools and receive a different education10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

But we are leaving behind the public education system by doing that and leaving it to rot10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Individual people may not be stuck, but the system as a whole is stuck10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

is our education system broken at all levels?10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

those who can't afford to go anywhere else are stuck10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

How do we help the public school system though?10:17am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hannah

more money always helps10:18am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Another contributing factor may be that they can choose each student @sean10:18am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

In Finland, public schools are much smaller. Would it be beneficial to have more schools withless people?10:18am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

one of the reasons oldham county schools are better is because of the wealth of the county10:18am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon



people aren't against change. It's the political will, the money, and the planning that isrequired to make change.That's what makes it hard10:18am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

ya that's what i was saying that the specialization might have something to do with it butthere's always picking the students. @alex10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I think the arvin center is starting to do something good in our county10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

YES smaller schools would allow so many more personal relationships among teacher andpeers, fostering a better learning environment10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

i think it would, it would bring smaller class sizes and help have more one on one time ifneeded @jacob10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madi

People would be able to focus more if the classes at their school are smaller10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jozie

Education has become to political10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

We have classes for specific people who need extra one on one help, it wouldn't be foreveryone10:19am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

Has anyone in here been denied entrance into a class that they wanted to be in?10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

shouldn't be mandatory because not everybody has an interest or a passion in tech, butshould be avalbile10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

*available10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

I think it should be mandatory because other things are mandatory and we may not like them.But the world right now revolves around10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

technology so we need to be prepared10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

I think how it is at the Arvin center is fine, not everyone wanted to take the class but thepeople who did got in.10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Where does the lessons we get at home come into play?10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Maybe so, but only because they didn't have enough credits for a certain subject @MJR10:20am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

It should not be mandatory @sean we are perfectly capable of keeping up with technologywithout a class10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

I agree @jessica10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie



that also angers men, why didn't I just take the easy classes and get a better GPA?10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

How do we make decisions about what types of classes are offered in a school like ours?10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I agree @jessica10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

Yeah. @MJR I wanted to take AP Bio as a freshman but I was told no because of somestandardized test where I was one point away.10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

*me not men10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

I think we need more STEM based courses10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Besides, as soon as new technology comes out, that class will be outdated10:21am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

if you want to know more than you already do you can take the class, but if not then we haveresources to learn more on our own10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I guess i should say provide more10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

definitely as more and more students come to have majors in stem subjects10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by RyanC

some type of stem course should be mandatory10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

Your ACT is a reflection on your workload, too. If you coast through HS your score willprobably show it10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Koby

I remember ms.woosely told us that she'd rather us take AP classes and fail than take easyclasses to get a good GPA10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maria

Agreed @alex10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

what does STEM stand for10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

Even though catholic schools make it out to be they are "wealthier" "better", i know they don'thave classes like Louisville program as we d10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

I think the ACT is a horrible representation of who you are as a student10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I like the idea of the arvin center but what happens when it can't fit into your schedule10:22am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

No we should provide more STEM based classes. Think about it this way. Do you want designthe robot or be the guy whose job the robot took10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

science technology engineering math



10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

science technology engineering math10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Science, Technology, ____, Math10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Science Technology Engineering and Math10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

STEM isn't just technology, my science courses could fill any "required STEM class"10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

i agree with Ryan10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

yes, engineering10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think that it's more based on the type of classes/programs school offer to put your child in.OC has JCTC and alot of people have transfer10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

there for that program.10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

we need more web based classes because jobs are only going to expand in that sector10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

Some people call it STEAM now... and incorporate Arts...10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I agree they should be offered, but not mandatory10:23am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

yep @abbie10:24am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

what else would you learn?10:24am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

vocational classes10:24am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

so many other things my major in college has nothing to do with a STEM course10:24am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

yeah but when you get a job very few actually use their major10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

go ty!!!!10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

I bet kids in Finland would love to get into a debate and not hope that they dont.10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

biggest fan of Ty10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

I feel like most people use their major @ryan10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

why would you spend thousands of dollars on a degree you don't use10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon



I dont think so @doyon10:25am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

you major in nursing, you become a nurse10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

only people in STEM based classes and med10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

I agree with Nathan. I know I will use my degree with my intended career path10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

thats not true at all @ryan10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

sohs attempts to teach it10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by NoahG

Majority of the people i know with college degrees dont use their major10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

I think you can teach grit but some of it has to come from your want to succeed10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Matthew

I think the major helps you learn what you need to know about the broader subject but amasters really helps you focus on what you want to10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

do10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

What do you think your senior class's average Grit scale would be?10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

True @matthew10:26am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

210:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by NoahG

I agree with ryan. all an employer wants to see with a degree is you know how to learn10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

They use the knowledge they learned within their major. How on earth did you come to theconclusion most people do not use their major10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

I agree some people don't, but that doesn't mean only people in the medical field and STEMbased classes used their majors10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Is there a way to instill a want to succeed or a drive for improvement?10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

scale of 0 to 510:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

110:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Stem and med are the only ones truly use their degree all the time10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

Grit Scale, what would the average score be of your senior class10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR



start a bussiness10:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

210:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

210:27am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

what about a business degree10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

rt @ryan10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

1.510:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

or a math degree10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

people definitely use those majors in their professions10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

grit grit grit grit grit10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

even art degrees use techniques they learned in school10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

i love gritz10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Changing deadlines and end-of-year extra credit reduce grit10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Koby

i would say almost everybody uses their degrees. Even if they could have had a slightlydifferent degree, they use what they learned10:28am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

what about people doing interior design, fashion design, cosmetology, graphic design, etc.10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I think people use their degrees to certain extent10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo

i disagree so hard.10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jake

I agree with Koby. One of my pet peeves are when deadlines are changed10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

we just wait for summer break to come all year10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Leah

and knowledge10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

people have the ability to use their degrees if they want10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I really believe a degree is just proving you got through the work, but does it really show howhard you worked to earn it or just got by w/10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by lo



or education, psychology, foreign language, ministry10:29am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

most seinors don't even see the purpose of a senior year of high school. We are alreadyaccepted in college10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

senior year just doesn't matter much10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

law, criminal justice10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

@abby stop10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

Ive had projects where Ive done them and the teacher then says we don't even need to turn itin10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Sean

i agree, but it can be used to take classes to get you ahead in college @Doyon10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

shutup adumb ur annoying10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abby

by this point in high school most of us are already taking college classes10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

There are a lot of ways to fake grit. Because teachers don't always check work for correctness,it's easy to bs everything.10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Matthew

you're*10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

why not just go to college10:30am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

because it is more expensive @Doyon10:31am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

that is sooo true Matthew10:31am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

In 2010, only 62 percent of U.S. college graduates had a job that required a college degree.10:31am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

but aren't we just wasting time during a senior year?10:31am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

some people are @doyon10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

not if you if grit10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

that depends on what you do senior year. @Doyon10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

have*10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

damn10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H



I like all my classes this year and feel like they all have a purpose10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

Just because it does not require one doesnt mean you do not use it. Degrees give you a headstart and you can use the skillsyou learned@jack10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

Lots of people like to take easy classes their senior year so its easy10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jozie

Second, its estimated that just 27 percent of college grads had a job that was closely relatedto their major.10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

E's biggest influence on me was essay writing and dealing with a large workload10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Doyon

well look at that10:32am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan.H

hmmmm10:33am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jack

Same @Doyon10:33am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by JacobH.

Where are you getting that statistic I do not believe ti10:33am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jessica

http://time.com/money/4658059/college-grads-workers-overqualified-jobs/ @jack10:33am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Adumb

but that doesn't mean they don't use the knowledge they acquired in college10:33am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by abbie

I talked to Jacob from second period and he was arguing with another class mate aboutwhether or not you use your college degree or not in11:42am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

your job11:42am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

can we continue this discussion11:43am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

@Brett, I do think college is over rated because so many people think of it as an automaticnecessity after high school when it may be11:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

better to get into the workforce and start working you way up11:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

It should matter11:46am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by rohan

It should but does it @rohan11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

we are currently in the education system so definetly11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jay

How would we better prepare for the future in school?11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna



it depends on what you're going for but for the most part people learn important things incollege for your job11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

I think most of what is taught in college can be used but some information will be lost11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

Being in a system doesn't necessarily mean that it works.11:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

are there majors in college you will never use in a job?11:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

The US has the best college system in the world, and when it comes to average income the USranks above every major country...11:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

This is why trade schools exist: for those who don't want to go to college but still want to geta job that pays well11:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

Has anyone NOT travelled internationally?11:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Anybody that goes to a trade school will undoubtedly be using what he learned in his dailywork11:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

i have not @mjr11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

Devyn suggested that we take our education for granted. Do you all agree with that?11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think in the future we should let the kids choose whatever subject they wish to if they have asolid idea on what we want after highschool11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

How do some colleges over seas compare to colleges in the U.S?11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

get a head start on what you already know you want11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

by changing education and making the system better do you think we can close the racialgap?11:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by rohan

the system doesn't have to be better. What we have right now works11:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

Good question, Cameron. I haven't any idea--beyond schools in the UK. Everyone knowsabout the likes of Oxford, for instance.11:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

@rohan i would hope so that should be the top priority to create equality among students11:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

Specialization should happen earlier than it does, it doesn't make sense to wait until you're 20to start learning job specific skills11:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh



I think we have tried over and over again to strengthen the education here in America. Thestruggle is reaching all schools and all areas.11:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

Colleges in canada are good and they are extremley cheap for canadian citizens and all arefunded by the country11:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by rohan

I agree with Macki and it is important for people to understand the importance of education11:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

@josh i agree that's too late of a start on learning what you know you as an individual want tolearn11:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

How does someone know what they want to learn if they don't have enough time to thinkabout it?11:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

K suggested that our system is perfectly fine the way that it is--all things considered--agree ordisagree? K, expand on this...11:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Great question, K....11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

In some cases someone has already made up their mind (ex. ive wanted to be a vet since ayoung age) but for those who don't know yet should11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

do you think that if your classes are mixed when you're younger it increases your level oflearning?11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Abby

What we have right now is growing the economy of the country. If we try to fix something thatis not broken, we might make it worse11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

its really quiet in the center. i wonder what solutions could change that, maybe an actual fullclass discussion11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Shane

I'm not exactly sure what we would change in our system. I would like to see educationsystems in better ranked countries.11:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

i think the kids that are in classes like coach reeds are oppressed because they do not get thetypical sohs education11:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

be given the chance to choose what interests them and draws their attention learning isnttruly learning if youre not interested in the11:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

subject11:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

well having a general education is a great idea because many people change jobs if theirsdoesnt work out11:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

oppression is all based on perspective11:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Shane



explain shane???11:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by rohan

the only issue is we put kids like that together to help them but it hurts them more becausethey all cant handle being with other students11:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

Is any difference in teaching considered oppression?11:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

Do those kids know anything different? Do you think they recognize or since its all they knowthey don't realize?11:56am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

what does coach reed teach?11:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

If you never learned anything in a class that has different teachers teaching it, you could beconsidered part of the oppressed.11:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

they have to macki they go through a whole school day talking to other people seeing theother kids11:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

If one of the other teachers could've potentially provided you a better chance at learning thecontent11:57am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

coach reed teaches the kids that cant handle being in a normal classroom whether it islearning disabilitys or kids with anger issues @ j11:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

thanks @ brett11:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

Objectively you can view a group of people as being oppressed11:58am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

As shane said, oppression is based on perspective11:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

I would say withholding education is oppressive, not "violent"11:59am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

I wouldn't call that oppression either.12:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

Standards still have to be upheld, even if you may be "oppressed" because of them12:00am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

is grit inherited or can it be taught?12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

Are babies born with grit?12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

yes, J.12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

depends12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Abby

I feel like grit is not really teachable, its up to you to give your best effort.



12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Chase

Grit can be hard to have with all of the advertisements and distractions we are bombardedwith everyday12:02am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

no grit is taught and learned but not through the traditional models of teaching12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

I think that there are many environmental factors that play into level of grit.12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

Just like that one whiteboard video was saying12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

I keep going back to the idea that people don't know what hard work is unless they see it.12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

grit is a choice, that's the whole reason that it's different than talent12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

i think grit is something you have to work on in order to have not something your are justborn with12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

i feel like our schools focus on teaching in order to get good scores on standardized testsinstead of teaching motivation and finishing...12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by michelle

Which teachers here ask you to be the grittiest?12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

...what you start12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by michelle

effingham12:03am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

math and social studies12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

Definitely Effingham12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

i feel that parents are the ones who determine the grit of their kids12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Peyton

i agree josh12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by michelle

what about people who are naturally hyper? they cant focus on one thig for long periods oftime? how would they be measured for grit?12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

I know the Mrs. Abercrombie wants us to tackle her class with grit. So that we simply don't fallbehind or forget important material12:04am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

@Peyton - is it impossible to acquire grit if you don't have parents that teach you to be gritty?12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Any AP class requires grit to be present12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin



Grit is also associated with your home life and background, some people may need moresupport to get more "grit" when it comes to school12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Taylor

i dont feel grit is required for any class. we spend 50 minutes and then i leave it. and move onto a new subject12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

how do you teach grit?12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by michelle

Yes, it could be shaped by the people you surround yourself with12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Peyton

I think we can apply grit at certain times and certain areas. We can work very hard on onething but not so much on another12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

What role do teachers play in cultivating grit?12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

I think that even if you have attention deficit you can "grit" through it, it just might lookdifferent than others @j12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

high expectations/standards for excellence.12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

i agree with taylor, you might have but not even know it12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Abby

I think grit is is taught when you're a young child12:05am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Haley

to me grit has a lot to do with your self motivation and ethics12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Shane

Grit can't really be taught in a classroom setting. It has to be acquired through experience12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

@Abby, what do you mean?12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the classroom can encourage and applaud grit12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

@Shane, should we teach self motivation and ethics in public school?12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think grit is developed by a specific life experience that pushes you to be better12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Francis

everyone has potential but they might not always reach it12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Abby

i think grit is really just a question oh how much you want it. How hard are you willing to work12:06am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

@Macki, yes..12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

is grit even required to be successful? are there any jobs that dont require it?12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

@Jim, what if you think you're working hard, but aren't



12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I don't think we need to be taught grit, its not complicated, its just hard12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

i agree with jim12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

what @rich12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

If everyone has potential and they get the same education in the same school, there shouldn'tbe a gap in grades @Abby12:07am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

folks in their 70s who remember the draft suggest that mandatory military training mightserve to instill a sense of grit in the population12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

in my own life.. grit is what allows me to feel proud of myself and do something with my bestability. for me it is required to be succesful12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

Grades aren't standardized. It's hard to compare between those who have different teachers,or attend different schools.12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

Some kids who have good grades do not work hard for them and there are others who put in alot of time and effort into getting a B12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

people are selective about what to try. so grit would only apply to certain aspects of peopleslives12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

What if you didn't have a stable childhood with good role models...12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

?12:08am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

some kids have learning disability's and learn at a different pace12:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Abby

Devyn has a good point. It really depends on whether you have a natural aptitude for a givensubject12:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

Do you just have get "lucky" by having a non-family member or non-parent impact your life?12:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

facts @rsbellary12:09am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

agree with dev, its not always just about how hard you try. You might need different peopleand resources to get you to a certain point12:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Taylor

that's when i think that teachers should encourage grit in school because if kids aren't seeinggrit at home then school could be a solution12:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by michelle

of success12:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Taylor



Cameron wins the day. :)12:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

i think grit is more common in private schools. so grit in a public school shines more. what doy'all think?12:10am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

It might stand out more in high school, but i don't think it makes a difference once you go tocollege or enter the workforce @macki12:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

I have to disagree. The pro choice article provided test scores and other information for bothpublic and private schools and private...12:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

yea i agree josh12:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

Private schools have a higher standard than most public schools12:11am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

...schools don't have better scores at all. They're nearly the same @macki12:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Collin

just because the scores are the same doesn't mean the test are equal12:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

segregation?12:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Private schools have harder non ap classes12:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Francis

sorry, desegreation?12:12am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

@collin that was in one specific case, but speaking generally, private schools have higher testscores than public schools.12:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Chase

In my opinion, grit and test scores don't always act interchangeably12:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Macki

mr. rich can we go to lunch12:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Dallas

yes.12:13am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

if grit meant perserverence would school be a great test if you had it? you have to go yearsbefore you can go to college or a trade school?12:38am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

that would show some serious perserverance12:39am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

dress code12:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

our principal12:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

i agree @brett12:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j



i agree with brett12:45am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Dallas

that is so mean shane12:46am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

true12:46am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

can "stupid" people become intelligent?12:46am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

there not stupid they are just not as bright as the more intelligent students12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

are they lightbulbs12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

yes12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

i think they're intelligent in their own way if that makes sense12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

eastern kentucky has some of the brightest people i havever met12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by rohan

Yes they just need to be taught in ways that they understand the best12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

There are also people that just don't apply themselves and are in lower level classes. Notbecause they're "stupid"12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lily

i dont think its stupid vs smart. its whether or not you care12:47am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

well what about people who dont care but are still doing well?12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

i agree @jim12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Peyton

@j they are just good at testing12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Cameron

@jim i agree it all comes down to your attitude toward school and if you take your workseriously12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

you might even go further to say that it's about whether or not people have learned grit.12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

@ j for almost everyone that will eventually catch up to them.12:48am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Chase

@shane12:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

@chase well i have put very little effort into school and im doing alright12:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

why you @ing me?12:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Shane



cause you @ed me12:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by jim

im not sure if dress code should be a main concern12:49am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

I agree kaitlyn i think the question is more about education12:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Josh

@ j, I would say for some people high school is somewhat easy, but if chose a tough major incollege, you will have to give a real effort.12:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Chase

in regards to dress code, do you think that folks wearing Patagonia stuff can make a poorlearning environment for kids from low income fams12:50am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

?12:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

our high school education at sohs lacks in the area of hands on experience12:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brett

is puttig effort into education different than school? do people put more effort into learningoutside of school?12:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

we should more so focus on what we can do to show that your teachers do see your hard workis put in to improve not just test scores12:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kaitlyn

@ J-- I think the answer is a def. yes.12:51am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

students dont see the point in some of the things we learn so they don't care to learn it theyjust want to pass the tests so they do put...12:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

more effort into things outside of school12:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kate

Should tech related classes me offered as core classes in this building?12:52am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

if people put more effort to learnign outside of school should we even have school? should itbe mandatory?12:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

nothing is perfect. the education system never will be12:53am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by devyn

Nothing is perfect. it is just that Finland has an education system which is "better" than othercountries.12:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

I think there should definitely be more of a variety of classes that we can take depending onour interest or what we plan on going into12:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lily

after high school12:54am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lily

how are the educations in countries ranked?12:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j



who decides that?12:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by j

It is ranked by standardized testing. And using standardized tests for ranking schools is flawed12:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Karthikeyan

I would much rather learn to play guitar than being in ceramics12:55am, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Taylor

I believe South's biggest weakness is the size of everything. The rooms, cafeteria, andhallways.1:17pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

while north is under capacity1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

The biggest weakness is the staffs desire to control every aspect of our academic careers. Werarely have free range (except in this class).1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

@Braydan-- do you mean that they're too small? Or are we just too overcrowded?1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

true its not preparing us for college at all when we have complete freedom1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

We're being stuffed into a building built in the 80s that had no vision of holding the amount ofstudents it does now1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

So do we need a new school or a bigger one?1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

It's much harder to focus on your actual schoolwork when you're cramped into a tiny space.1:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

New and bigger1:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

I think since a lot of people have moved here the school isn't big enough now1:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lauren

Oldham county is growing so maybe we need another school1:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

I know that SOHS has an outstanding AP/college curriculum.1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

our football team1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

WHERES EAST HIGH??1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

in the wroks1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

works1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

Arvin center provides Oldham students with opportunities that other students dont get1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

I think SOHS has some outstanding upper-level course teachers1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by noah



The way we do school now, our administration is trying to force our attention, whereas underGriff your success was on you1:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

Hayley says our football team is something that makes us strong. So athletics is a strength?1:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Haley* smh1:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

oopsie1:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I feel like south is good at hiring passionate and diverse teachers.1:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

But yes.1:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

Are you able to show what you do well or love to do in the school setting?1:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Athletics is a probably the thing that creates more positive attitudes about South thananything else1:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by noah

I don't think athletics are a necessity for a school. While they are fun to have, if your studentsaren't academically thriving, sports mean1:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

nothing1:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

during the assemblies they pit you all against each other1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

@madeline i think our sports teams give us some pride and confidence. We view our school ina good way because of the success tied to SOHS1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

We should also do assemblies and celebrations for sports other than just football andbasketball....1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

We have teachers that help students in classes if they are from another country and i thinkthat its good to have something like that.1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

I think it build positivity and spirit but shouldn't be required1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lauren

to come closer we must first be divided -Tristan Hinson1:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

I don't...1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

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wot m81:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

what1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

How do we build unity in a school community.1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

?1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think having unity in athletics and assemblies etc creates a better environment to learn in soathletics are a great aspect but1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bailey

"Oh hi doggy" -Tommy Wiseau1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

learning is and should be top priority1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bailey

I agree with Bailey1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

I agree with bailey1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

And does unity or division impact an educational environment?1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

find something that is appealing to a variety of people1:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

There were a lot of opportunities this year to get students involved such as homecomingparades and spirit clubs and no one was there.1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

*oh hi mark1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

bc there was no trap music1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

Ken Robinson suggests that it's stupid to put kids all together just based on age.1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I just dont think its fair that someone who is good at a sport who doesnt get good grades geta better scholarship1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

I agree with Sam. Our students need to be more involved as a community instead of havingtheir own separate spheres.1:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

@haley yesss agreed1:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

i think unity strengthens what you think and believe but division provides students theopportunity to see things in multiple perspectives.



1:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

Is there anything complex/intellectual about playing sports?1:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Yes1:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

yes @MJR1:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

Yes @MJR1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

what about who works hard in the classroom and still get less money but bad at a sport1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

the other way around1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

You have to know strategy, quick decision making skills, and so much more1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

see @haley thats wrong athletes are bringing in 100x more money then the student couldever bring even if education is the school motto1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by austin

Grrrrrrrrit1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

so we should be more conformed and restricted and exactly like everyone else @ brayden1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

I don't think I'm smart when it comes to school but I think I am a smart player when it comesto lacrosse.1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

Look at college football games and how much money they bring in1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

sohs (plus other oc schools) is probably the safest learning environment and has way lessconflict than the jcps schools around us.1:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

I feel like some people are more physically driven and then some people are driven morementally.1:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

But cant you be both?1:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

idk1:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

you're smart trinity1:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

yes1:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

trinity is gr81:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

what about the arts? some of you are dedicated to music-even those of you who may not playan instrument or sing...




I think it comes back to your passions- people aren't born with a grit for sports but maybetheir love for a game causes them to develop it1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by noah

You can, but not everybody is born with the same educational advances as others. You can beboth, but not everyone is able to be1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

i have written a couple of unreleased rap songs1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

@MadelynL1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

There's music history, music journalism, music therapy etc1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

where do the arts play into school? Should they be a mandatory part of school?1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

No you should be the opposite @ Tristan. I encourage people to be different than everybodyelse1:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

Should athletes get paid millions when others have jobs that impact more people and dont getpaid what they deserve?1:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

Yes, I think art is what defines us as human.1:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

I like that one painting with that girl and she's just like "woah dude"1:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

The arts were mandatory in middle school but I think most people abandoned then bc ofcollege pressure and thoughts of the future1:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by noah

I feel like the whole abstract thought aspect of art encourages academic thinking in general1:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

It's such a hard road to be a success in the arts that most people don't have the grit to pursueit1:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

You can't teach a person to work hard, that's something they have to approach on their own.1:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

I agree completely with what Ashley is saying!!!1:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

@Jordan-- do you model yourself after other hard workers and passionate workers?1:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

The only way to remotely teach grit is to motivate someone to achieve a goal1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

Not necessarily, I feel like it's more of an experience thing. I had to learn that if I didn't puteffort into my classes, I wouldn't get1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan



Duckworth has been criticized for acting as if Grit is a cure-all for all the ills of the educationalsystem, but some people don't have...1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the results I wanted in my grades.1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

Kids at SOHS are taught when they cant do something it doesnt matter because teachers willpass them along. Instead of teaching them not to1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

give up.1:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

The closest I've seen to someone teaching grit is Mr.Effingham and his strict workload thatrequires constant engagement and work1:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

its all about grades1:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

any models of what it means to be gritty?1:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

For me, I just feel like a lot of schools make it seem like your GPA, ACT score, etc. are whatdetermined your worth/intelligence/importance1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

facts1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

I completely agree with Trinity1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

That's what schools stress because the higher the test scores the more funding they get1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

i agree with Trinity1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alana

Surviving in a country that's war torn takes grit1:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zach

ACT determines your future1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

@Sam- yes, I think some teachers are afraid to fail kids1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

most colleges will look at extra curriculars and work and the such maybe even above ACT andGPA which is what really screwed my brother over1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

he had great scores, but little grit1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

and colleges just looked right over him1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

I feel like that has such an impact on kids' self-worth and confidence in the work.1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

failing a kid often suggests that you didn't work hard enough to help the kid.1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR



their*1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

It seems to me that your GPA measures grit while your ACT score measures how much youhave retained info. and your test-taking abilities.1:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

instead of actually learning kids will just memorize1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

It does have such a huge impact on kids. Growing up we are told if we don't get a certainscore on something we won't be successful1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

what if you're only surrounded by drug dealers, gang bangers, and drug addicts1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

depends on the class you take1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

I don't think the ACT accurately displays the kind of student you are1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline

@braydan i agree1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

I agree with Brandon, I find myself cramming for things more often than actually trying toretain the information.1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

If that's all you know that's all you will be1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zach

Exactly a lot of teachers dont want to put in the extra time to truly help students.1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

and the time limits on the act are dumb1:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

Is there value in "cramming" for a test?1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

no1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Jordan

yeah a good grade1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Justin

Most kids now don't even learn the material they're focused on the fact that they need to pass& they'll do whatever they can just to pass1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

when applying for applications to my college I did notice 95% of them were specifically forwomen and minorities, disqualifying me1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

and colleges often want their school to be diverse so they will accept a lot of minority over themajoritys1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

yeah, good grades that will determine your future success1:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline



A lot of scholarships are more concerned with a high ACT while often accepting a lower GPA. Ittells me the system neglects hardworking kids1:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

majority's1:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

Colleges anymore are pushing more for diversity than level of education1:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

does it teach perseverance? Can it be a representation of grit-- to cram and memorize--even ifit's short term?1:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Do you think colleges should even look at ACT scores?1:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

ive directly seen colleges focusing much more on potential and motivation over just grades1:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

My brother goes to Southern Illinois and the speech someone gave at early graduationemphasized how the university was diverse rather than1:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

through my brothers1:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

the class's academic accomplishments1:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

Are we mixing up two things in sports and academics that shouldn't be mixed up? The mixdoes complicate stuff.1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think colleges should still use the ACT bc they need a way to differentiate between academicstudents.1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

when you cram for a test, as soon as that test is over, you usually forget it1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

Agreed Braydan1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

Why not just contract out sports at the high school level (like AAU and club) and at the collegelevel?1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

when you learn for the sake of learning, it stays1:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

However, they should place more value on someone's GPA.1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

and when you learn for the sake of passing, you never really learned the material in the firstplaced1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

because without the kids playing sports rich they dont make as much money aau to them isnot an option1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by austin

I agree with braydan1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madeline



you only get so many takes on an ACT, GPA gives a more wide look over time1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

more accurate1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

maybe you just had a bad day during your ACT1:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

a grade over an entire year is different1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

and some people can't afford to take it 10 times and take classes to prep for it because it'sexpensive1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Meredith

It's hard to compare people based on their act scores because a lot of people get ACT tutorsand have access to ACT prep materials1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bailey

There are so many forms of the ACT that test different aspects of each subject so sometimesyou luck out with it being your strengths1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

and many others don't have that same privilege1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bailey

An act could easily be messed up because of one mistake. Does not accurately measureknowledge1:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lauren

its crazy how 1 point can affect your scholarship by thousands of dollars$$$$1:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

I agree with Tristan and Ashley1:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alana

Someone who never does their homework or classwork and has a low GPA shouldn't deserve afull tuition bc they got a 36 on their ACT.1:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Braydan

I don't think teachers prepare us enough for the Act, so the test just creates more stress andmore time studying.1:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Alex

its possible to guess at every problem on an ACT and get a 361:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

but thats raw talent @braydan1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

idk henry try it1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

the whites1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

oh no1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

hey, im one of those1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

gee willikers



1:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

zoinks1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

What is more important grit or talent? @Brandon1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

Talent without grit is still valuable, just like grit without talent is valuable1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by noah

like diversity is stupid you cant control what color you are fr fr1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

fr fr??1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

for real for real1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

Are kids from low income families marginalized at SOHS?1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Um, Micheal Jackson1:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

Kind of1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

it's especially stupid being discriminated against for your color @brandon1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

facts1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

we all humas1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

with feeling1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

s1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

I think you meant pumas1:49pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

what r feelings1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

We all humas1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by madelynL

and 2 arms1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

2 legs1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

brandon you hurt my brain1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by austin

some have more hair than others1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon



is diversity worth it if it means denying some of the more qualified people just for the sake ofdiversity1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

and some have different color eyes1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

but we all the same1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

Yes.1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

frfr1:50pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

eyes are like snowflakes no one is the same1:51pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tristan

yall too woke1:51pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Lauren

Kids from low income families at South get searched for drugs more than anyone. Those samekids are always the ones hanging in the halls1:51pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

If you have a team of the most qualified people in the world who all happen to be the same, isit worth changing them out...1:51pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

for a less qualified team just to say you have diversity?1:51pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

is that not in some roundabout weird way, just another form of discrimination?1:52pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Henry

Minorites do have inherently lower scores but what's the big deal against diversity? What'swrong with being diverse and letting more oppres1:52pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

-sed people have a shot?1:52pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

@Henry, no it isn't worth it. You establish a team using the best candidates regardless of theirappearance or background1:52pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zaubi

shooters gotta shoot no matter what your skin tone is1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

facts1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

I agree completely with everything that was just said in the circle.1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

our schools isnt racist at all1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley

What trinity said1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ashley

i dont think lol1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by haley



do you mean the school staff or kids who go here1:53pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by austin

@austin-- both1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

HAHA1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zach

thats bullshit1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by austin

I don't think the staff is racist..1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Randi

hell nah1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brandon

Maybe not but the kids def heard some words I shouldn't have1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Zach

I feel like if you're not like the majority, our school can make you feel like an outcast mucheasier1:54pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by trinity

kyrie i2:02pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

hi2:06pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBudau

How many people have traveled internationally?2:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

TALK LoUDER2:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

@sam2:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

how many of you speak more than one language fluently?2:10pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

no and no2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

Other countries are superior to us as far as education is concerned because they valueknowledge more than we do and they have demonstrated2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

so are we doomed to play second fiddle?2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

we think we don't have to change our ways in education because people become successful.there are definitely things to improve on.2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

@Hayden-- what do you mean when you say "value knowledge"2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

?2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

this by creating sound education systems that provide all students an equal opportunity tosucceed.



2:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

They devote more of their own personal being to create better education opportunities for all.2:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

Does SOHS give you an education that will allow you to participate in the global community?2:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

America values success more than knowledge2:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

Here in the U.S. voucher schemes only benefit select students.2:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

i agree tanner2:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

Yes it does but we have to take it the extra step further and help ourselves. Cant just gothrough the motions and take it for granted2:13pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brice

ya, we value people who are successful and anyone who isn't we leave them in the darkbasically2:13pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by tarah

Finland's Population is 5,542,517 people, while the U.S is 321,100,000 so they have a tinynumber of people to educate and supervise. (1)2:13pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

(2) compared to us2:13pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

More people means more to contribute to the effort as well.2:14pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

we dont have the financial ability to preform like they do2:14pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sav

Does allowing for inequality and achievement gaps create a foundation that can lead to morecreativity or innovation?2:14pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Burns

How could we embed more creative opportunities in the classroom?2:14pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Mr. Burns, when you say "allowing" what do you mean, exactly?2:15pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

considering?2:15pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Population does take a factor @anna because we have over 100% more people to educate,Finland is smaller and intimate, easier to educate (1)2:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

By introducing more classes such as this one that allow for open discussion and sharingperspectives.2:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

(2) smaller masses2:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Buda has a point, are Fins easier to educate?2:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR



Yes, our education system is flawed. But what they did amounts to one U.S city reinventingeducation.2:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

These sorts of classes allow self-discovery, the basis of Finland learning that has allowed themto create the greatest academic institution2:17pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

s for students our age in the world.2:17pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

Yes, it is easier to teach in smaller numbers, thats why colleges post student to teacher ratio,smaller classes = better numbers2:17pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

There is not as much trust in students and teachers here compared to what they talked aboutin Finland2:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

Fins are easier to educate, but simply because they live in an community where education isseen as important and is a passion for children2:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

from a young age.2:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

I think ultimately a great education is great for everyone, but listening to the comment ofFinland being less creative, though more equal2:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Burns

In Finland they have a lot of advantages. They have less people, better education mastersprogram, and better trust.2:18pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by calla

Students here dread school and don't give the same sort of effort as students in Finland dobecause of our flawed education system.2:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

they just value the future of their countries and jobs for the future more than we do2:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

I'm reminded of the stereotype of communism/equality=stagnation, less innovation. Failuremay lead to later succeeding a different way.2:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Burns

I agree with Brady2:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by annie

@brady, but they also live in a socialist society, so they don't have much aspirations tobecome the best, or most succesful money wise2:19pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

They have a better understanding that knowledge is power rather then money2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

If you had the same opportunities at engaging and active learning enviornments as they didyou would want to go to school and you would2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

we are just spoiled2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

They can aspire to do their dream job, but they will never stand out.



2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

enjoy learning and being an active learner.2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

Do you think that the fact that many of you work jobs outside of school detracts from youreducation?2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Brady says we're spoiled, do you guys agree?2:20pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

depends on how you treat your job @MJR, do you rely on it as a means to survive or gasmoney?2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

This class is the closest to a Finland course that I have and it is safe to say it is the class Iwalk away with learning the most and2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

growing as a student.2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

Yes, money is a big motive which takes away from education2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brice

In Finland they Value the Education that happens outside of school2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

I think it does, we have less time to work on school work and study outside of school2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by annie

Tanner says that we don't really believe that knowledge is power in America.2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Agree?2:21pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Does Finland have less greed as a country since they can't surpass pre-destined limitations?2:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Doesn't the U.S. also have pre-destined limitations? Just differently pre-destined for differentpeople?2:22pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Burns

Finland utilizes their resources more effectively. So much so that hardworking Fins still havethe opportunity at a potential $500 support2:23pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

check to ensure financial success and future success for young Fins.2:23pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

I dont agree with that. You can choose to be happy with a low paying job, or you can go outand take risks and possibly become rich.\2:23pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Which Fins can't aspire to2:23pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

So school also plays a social role--perhaps unintentionally- should that be cultivated more?2:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I think it should be cultivated some more because people/relationships are always going to bea part of a students life and being able



2:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

grow and learn with each other can be important2:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

i think the people who are smarter, who get better grades, are pushed aside because they getthe concept better and don't need one on one2:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

Student behavior, then, or a history of bad-behavior, dictates how teachers act toward astudent.2:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

help2:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

I agree with Sam. And I also think school would become more enjoyable if we cultivated itmore2:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

@MJR, true, i've had it happen to me..2:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Interesting, Brady. So, people who are the "good" student or the "compliant" ones getoverlooked....2:29pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

good gets overlooked, great is celebrated2:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sav

well said, Sav.2:30pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I agree with calla2:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

are the classes just too big, then? Is it reasonable to ask a teacher get to know oraccommodate every student in their class?2:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

the people in the middle, are the ones left out. either you are really smart, and the teacherenjoys teaching you and the kids who fail2:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

get all the attention, the people stuck in the middle of the pack don't get as much attention2:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brady

I knew you'd remember, Buda. I just knew it.2:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

if you aren't a genius or seriously struggling, you feel just neglected2:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by megan

I agree with Megan2:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

I also agree with Megan2:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by annie

I agree with Megan as well2:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

it would be easier to have one teacher for the day.so they get to know the students strengthsand weaknesses.



2:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by tarah

I agree with Megan i think if you are a student stuck in the middle you are kinda on your own2:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

Hayden, interesting point.2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

well said hayden, good work2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by brice

But what is that teacher pigeon holes you as a bad kid2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

I never thought of it that way.2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I agree Tarah, it would also be better if the class sizes were smaller so that all the studentsand the teachers can get to know each other2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maddie

better2:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Maddie

I like the idea tarah i think that it would be beneficial and is shown to work in elementaryschools where the students and teachers have2:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

a relationship2:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

i think the school knows that these average kids are on a good track so they pay moreattention to the above/bellow average kids.2:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by tarah

even having like 2 teachers would be better than having a different one for each hour of theday2:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

my performance in a class heavily depends on the teacher student relationship2:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

Do we marginalize introverts?2:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Astronomy? @tanner2:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

The ACT is a load of BS, it is a test, on get this, test taking. If you aren't a good test taker,you have a disadvantage in life, (1)2:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

yes2:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tanner

bc colleges might overlook you (2)2:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

I think its all about how you justify violence.2:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

People can get a higher ACT score not by learning more but just by knowing how to take a testand applying tips and ticks2:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam



I don't think it is physically violent2:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Regardless, I think that it's safe to say that with holding education is cruel and unfair.2:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hayden

Yes, @sam, and that is not what they should look at when you are getting into college.2:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

I agree2:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

who said it was physically violent?2:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by calla

what's the single story for a SOHS student? Why other stories defy that single story?2:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

*what2:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

i know 4.0 - 4.2 students with a 20 that get denied to colleges. But a person that could reallycare less got a 36 (hungover) and got (1)2:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

his college paid for (2)2:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Have you ever been told that you couldn't take a course?2:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Good point brady2:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

yes, @MJR2:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

Duckworth helped us define "talent" but what is meant by "smart"2:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I know that ACT scores can depending on you getting in certain classes.2:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by calla

Buda, what course could you not take?2:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

like this one2:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

My mom who is a teacher at IUS is always talking about how in her department they do notagree with the ACT and what stands for2:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

About 15 people did not qualify for this course out of all the 150 students who are taking it,but they let 15 students take it anyway.2:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

i applied for the engineering course my freshman year, they said no, try next year, so Iapplied the next year, and they said i would (1)2:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

needed to take it last year.... what (2)2:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda



I haven't any problem with that, personally, but I'm not quite sure why other students weren'tafforded the same opportunity.2:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

bizarro world. Sorry, Buda.2:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

They didn't trust me with a wrench i guess... :(2:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

sorry we aren't all as good as you Mr.Rich2:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

some people are just not good test takers. they don't have the advantage of just walking inand feeling confident about it2:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Anna

damn sam2:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

huh?2:46pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

oh no he didn't2:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

What did I do? What did I say?2:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

its the beard, it makes him feel superior2:47pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

feel attacked yet?2:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by calla

its gotta be the shoes2:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sam

always.2:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

i agree with goldilocks in the pink jacket2:48pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by BigBuda

it's not funny3:03pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hobson

What languages are offered here? German, French and Spanish, right?3:07pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

right3:08pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

Yep3:08pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan

why might people criticize a private school?3:08pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

$$$$$3:08pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hobson

do private schools perpetuate privilege?3:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR



some people criticize the kids at private schools for being snooty3:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

because most private school kids come from families with high income and with that there issometimes believed entitlement3:09pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bz

private schools are tradition for some families3:10pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by tyler

People criticize privates schools because they have money, feel superior or on top of others3:10pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan

Private schools are a community of students all pretty well off, excluding a few. It's sort of anisolationist philosophy.3:10pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

danger of a single story.3:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I do not agree my little sister goes to a private school and my family is not wealthy by anystandards!3:11pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hannah

(1/2) the private school referenced in this text is at a Spanish mission in California. Over fallbreak i toured a different mission3:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

Even for those religious schools, it's still an isolated atmosphere.3:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

(2/2) but there was a school there and i think that those schools are different in their ownsince there is a museum on their "campus"3:12pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

https://www.oecd.org/pisa/pisa-2015-results-in-focus.pdf heres the latest pisa test i couldfind. page 5 are results.3:14pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali

Maybe you don't see them because they are marginalized. In the truest sense they have beenpushed to the side.3:16pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

I know the marginalized exist but from my position of privilege I can't see it3:17pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

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I disagree with that statement bc I see it as more of an act of passive oppression rather thanan act of violence.3:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

The definition of violence is:behavior involving physical force intended to hurt or damage. Ifyou take out the physical part of this def...3:24pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tex

i think it is a violation of a human right everyone should be able to obtain3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sav

In that definition, I think it's not as much to hurt as it is to maintain a social construct.3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth



By not having a Chinese class offered to you at this school, are you denied the same type ofeducation that Collegiate kids are getting?3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Not even the physical part. Like Molly said in some places people are physically removed fromthe school3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Katie

If education is being withheld then the student is being "hurt" or "damaged" by the lack ofknowledge3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Megan

...it holds true that if you take education away from kids you are hurting them and willdamage them for probably the rest of there life3:25pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tex

Maybe not everything we learn is completely intentional. We withhold information form eachother on a daily basis--is that damaging?3:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tatie

I agree that it is damaging, but in the case of not being allowed to learn something in class,that is not intended to hurt.3:26pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

if you are not allowed to learn you have been hurt because you are missing information youwish to acquire3:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tex

People that are denied education but pursue it anyways are often met with violence like malalayousafzai3:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

I can't consider withholding as violence as much as a passive act of neglect. I believe it'sdifferent.3:27pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

if you withhold nutrition from someone, it doesn't mean that you don't give them food3:28pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

I don't think telling kids that it's going to be painful is an appealing plea. Maybe we sugar coata little about the difficulties of grit.3:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

I don't morals stop being taught in school after elementary school3:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

can you go through your whole childhood without seeing a model of a passionate person?3:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

If so, can you have grit?3:31pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

It seems to me that grit is also about wrestling with truth and not avoiding it.3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

if someone is taught thermodynamics (math class) and they need to be learning algebra 1 and2 did we just hurt them by teaching them use3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tex

less information3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Tex



I agree Molly, I don't think OC cultivates grit at all. They don't focus enough on challengingcurriculum.3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

i think grit comes from within but i also think people live by example, so i think it might bemixture of both3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by sav

After talking to a few people that went to oldham county schools and are in college now, theyall agree that oldham didnt prepare them enoug3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brennan

*I think morals stop being taught after elementary school3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

You can go through your whole childhood without seeing a passionate model, it depends onhow you are brought up3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by will

If you live in a bad neighborhood and go to a bad school you definitely could go through yourchildhood without seeing a passionate person3:32pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Katie

lots of people have dealt with real difficult situations, but they often learn unhealthy copingmechanisms3:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

it depends on the class. in a class that i really enjoy, like sports medicine, i try hard but inother classes i'm not as motivated3:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by tyler

we are seniors in high school. We couldn't have gotten here without grit, saying we don't isinsulting.3:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

I agree with tyler, a lot of classes we dont care about and dont have interest in. if we hadclasses we like, we would pay more attention3:33pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brennan

ayn, yikes.3:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Teachers often set the bar low enough that everyone succeeds, which isn't the most beneficialor realistic system.3:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

who said high school kids dont have grit?3:34pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by bz

I think that you have to have grit to make it through our school system, I'm not saying itsalways easy, but the bar is set pretty low.3:35pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Kate

Tell someone barely passing their classes while working overtime--that the bar is low.3:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

The bar is low.3:36pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

I think its important to realize that something thats easy for you may be really hard forsomeone else. Everythings relative.3:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali



I hardly think that someone who has been top of the class most of their life could understandwhat being below average is like3:37pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

If a school can identify an educational need, they should address it.3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

And some people assume that being top of your class means academics come easy.3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

Even if those needs are based on social skills, grit skills, etc.3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by MJR

Maybe those at the top have more grit.3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

Its kids choice but it also has to deal with themselves and also have self-confidence inthemselves in order to do there work because they..3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan

Teacher's don't accept someone needing help as much as they do an over achiever.3:38pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hobson

So why would you assume that lower classes are easy only according to your own standards3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

If you dont struggle the bar may seem low for you, but someone who fails regardless of howhard they try can feel as though the bar is3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali

might have something tragic earlier happen in their life3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan

incredibly high3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali

I didn't say that anything is easy. I just said the bar is too low.3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

That's on the teachers to help you succeed to a higher level, not be content with mediocrity.3:39pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

Too low, maybe for you. People are getting through by the skin of their teeth3:40pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

I think that if the standard for students is to get through "by the skin of their teeth" that's toolow of a standard.3:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

if you are getting through by the skin of your teeth you most likely have a good amount ofgrit- but i doubt you got that grit from SOHS3:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

I think the bar is just relative to everyone based on their own personal situations3:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Brennan

thats not the standard though. thats the best some kids can do, no matter the effort or helpthey recieve.3:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali

You can not set a bar in a public school.3:41pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Hobson

Ethan, insightful. You might have a point.




Why do you say that Ethan?3:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

Was that ever the standard for you? doesn't sound like it. Some excel, some are draggedthrough. The bar is a personal setting3:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

Is the standard for students too low or is the standard for schools too low3:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

i agree with ethan that you can't set a bar in a public school. there are too many types andlevels of people3:42pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Katie

I agree because everyone has different situations they deal with everyday3:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Ryan

If you think that a bar is a personal setting, why do you think some people set theirs higher?3:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

With standardized testing there is a bar and it's very visible3:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kyle

there are some students that needed more help than others but they are all in one classroom,and the teacher can not help everyone3:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Megan

public schools are required to give standardized tests, there are district, state, and nationalaverages on these tests that set a bar3:43pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

look at any test score report it will tell you if you are below the bar, at the bar, or above thebar3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

Elizabeth, I think it has to do with their childhood, their friends, their classes, etc.3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Katie

I think a teacher can have a standard for their class. Mr. Rich, do you think you have highstandards for your class?3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Elizabeth

same3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by 0_0

megan brings up a good point. add onto that that if you ask a "stupid" question you're madefun of3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by kali

but do the standardized test really measure if you are a good student or a good test taker?3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Megan

You said the bar was too low. Implying that there was one bar--how's the bar too low if peopleare setting their own? just a thought3:44pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by ayn

standardized test obviously don't measure knowledge well, but they do set a bar3:45pm, Fri, Jan 19, 2018 by Molly

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