tue 30/06/2009 2:02 pmsirepub.halton.ca/councildocs/pm/9/jul 15 2009... · dear mr. carr, mr. adams...
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:02 PM
Tom, I’ve already responded to Gary Carr’s request and am sending this message to you to reinforce that
developers should be the ones to foot the bill for new roads and other infrastructure. We pay enough
taxes already. Based on my interaction with one developer they seem to have plenty of money to pay for
lawyers, consultants and fancy cars so it seems only fair to have them bear the true cost of their
developments. Regards, Paul Jemison
Tue 30/06/2009 2:03 PM Dear Mr. Adams, We are in total agreement with you. Developers should be responsible for these growth related charges. These charges should be seen as a cost of doing business by the developers. Existing tax payers should NOT be responsible. You have our full support. Cynthia and Jeff Wong
Tue 30/06/2009 2:03 PM Gentlemen, I received this e-mail today and feel strongly that I should voice my agreement that taxpayers should NOT be burdened with these growth related costs. Developers should shoulder this burdon, in fact it is a cost of doing the business they have reeped huge profits conducting over the past decade! Thank you for offering valuable information regarding this matter and for allowing residents a voice in this forum! Regards, Julijana Pocrnic
Tue 30/06/2009 2:03 PM
As an Oakville Taxpayer, I would like to register my position. I feel that the developers
MUST pay for the cost for new roads, water and wastewater infrastructure in Halton
Region. We the tax payers should not have to subsidize the developers.
M. Lonsdale
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:04 PM As an existing taxpayer I am against being burdened with the development industry related costs. The roads for the new growth should be put in place by the town and the new growth should be paid for by the developer not the existing taxpayer.
Sincerely Robert & Joan McKenna.
Tue 30/06/2009 2:04 PM
We agree with Tom that the developers should pay for new growth. Alaina and Glen Tennison
Tue 30/06/2009 2:04 PM Dear Mr. Carr, Mr. Adams and Mr. Burton,
Re: Regional Staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09
I strongly believe that development should pay for itself and the
expenses
of new development should not be borne by existing taxpayers.
Margaret Kirwin
Tue 30/06/2009 2:04 PM As a Halton region retired tax payer for many years we should not be burdened by developers increasing our tax and water by 6.1% each item. The developers will build these costs into the houses and in addition they want the established home owners and current tax payers to bear this burdon for them. I TOTALLY DISAGREE.they don't share their profits with us. YOURS TRULY, EVE A. RAWLICK.
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:05 PM
I agree with the content of the email. I do not want my taxes or water bill to increase to
pay for the new development.
(I thought this proposal had been made previously and was defeated?)
el.
Evergreen Lee
Tue 30/06/2009 2:05 PM Dear Mr. Adams, I and my family look in amazement at the insolence of the Halton Region developers who claim that existing tax payers should pay for road and water infrastructure developments that are caused by and benefit their fat businesses! At the same time I cannot believe that any honest councillor would even consider the idea of throwing these development costs on the shoulders of existing taxpayers. Going hand in hand with moral considerations, any councillor voting in favour of the developers should realize that this would be a sure good bye kiss to his / her political career. Sincerely, Cristian Mureseanu
Tue 30/06/2009 2:05 PM
Absolutely Councillor Tom.
We totally support you in this great endeavor. Let the developers pay for all the roads and
related infrastructure development. Please ensure that the cost of growth is not paid for
by existing taxpayers.
We are totally in alignment with you!
Thanks,
RJ Sahi
Tue 30/06/2009 2:09 PM
In these trying economic times we certainly must do everything in our power to keep taxes affordable. Let developers pay! Please ensure you do everything in your power as councillor to keep our taxes as low as possible. with thanks, Lorraine Quast
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:09 PM
Hi Tom,
Thanks very much for keeping us informed.
I agree wholeheartedly that developers, and not us tax payers, must bear the cost of new development. We
are among the heaviest taxed municipalities that I am aware of and we need to rein in the pressure on
existing tax payers. Other communities have done it, it works and they are better off for it.
Curt Allen
Tue 30/06/2009 2:09 PM
Tom,
I agree 100% that the tax burden should NOT be on the taxpayer, rather it should stay with the developers.
It would be very naïve to asume that these developers do not already have these taxes built into their
current revenue stream. Please let me know if I can be of any further assistance on this.
Barry Adams
Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
Dear Councillor Adams
After reading the Staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09 outlining a proposed
plan that the development industry should pay for the cost for new roads, water and
wastewater infrastructure in Halton Region, to ensure that the cost of growth is not
paid for by existing taxpayers. I strongly support this plan and I believe that, as an
existing taxpayer, I should not be burdened with these growth related
costs.
Even if lawyers representing some developers have argued that the developers
should not pay for these costs, and that instead either taxpayers should pay or we
should postpone building the roads that are required. I completely disagree.
The cost to the taxpayers if the developers get their way is a 6.1% increase
on taxes and 6.1% increase on water rates. NO WAY!!!!
Thank you for making sure our voices are heard and let me take this opportunity to
highlight how much we appreciate your work, your committment and your
involvement in files that makes Halton such a great place to live.
Again thank you
Luc Fournier
Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
Thank you Tom, I have emailed Gary Carr stating that I am in agreement with him on
this issue and am opposed to the developers' request. I have also forwarded your email to
my friends and neighbours. Thanks for keeping us informed. Annamaria Ierullo ARIDO IDC CDECA
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
Tom,
I believe that our existing taxpayers should not be burdened with growth related
costs.
Lawyers representing some developers have argued that the developers should not pay
for these costs, and that instead either taxpayers should pay or we should postpone
building the roads that are required. I completely disagree.
Stanley Owens
Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
I agree with Councillor Adams, the taxpayers of Oakville should not pay
the infrastructure costs for roads etc and these should be borne by
the developers not taxpayers
Sincerely
Lyle Shrigley
Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
NO, OAKVILLE TAX PAYER SHOULD NOT PAY FOR ROAD... PERIOD.
Developers must pick up the cost and add it in on the price of the new housing cost.
NO! NO! NO!
Thanks Tom, I totally agree with you and Mr. Carr.
Gary Brooks
Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM
I live in Oakville.
I think the developer should pay for the cost of the new roads for the new development.
Pauline Con
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:10 PM Hi Tom, Thank you for your e-mail. We completely agree with your stance that we should put the roads in place to manage the new growth and that new growth should be paid for by the developers and not the existing taxpayers. We don't think that growth should be the end-all. We think the focus should be on quality of life for the community of Oakville. Yours truly, Steve and Anne Sider
Tue 30/06/2009 2:11 PM
I agree with you, namely - "... that we should put the roads in place to manage the
new growth and that new growth should be paid for by the developers and not the
existing taxpayers."
Al Hanson
Tue 30/06/2009 2:11 PM
I agree that developers should pay the cost and we should continue to build the roads
necessary.
regards,
Jem Ma
Tue 30/06/2009 2:11 PM
Thank you very much for bringing this to our attention. We agree 100% that the infrastructure for roads and utilities should be paid by the developers as part of their cost for building new development. The expansion in inevitable but should be absorbed by the cost of the expansion not by everyone. We support Staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09. Best regards, The MacSweens
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:19 PM
I received an email and want to support the notion that developers should pay for
infrastructure costs for development, and that Halton residents' taxes should NOT
increase and thereby subsidize this cost; the developers should have to pay for it. Thank
you for your efforts in this matter.
Geetha and Kasi Rao
Tue 30/06/2009 2:20 PM Dear Tom, Developers build to make a profit. If taxpayers must pay for roads and infrastructure costs what percentage of the dveloper's profits will they receive ? NONE The evelopers bought the land knowing what was needed before construction. It is a cost of business, their business. We disagree with their premise. Bill and Nancy Wallace
Tue 30/06/2009 2:20 PM
I agree with councillor Adams that the developers should pay for new growth as per his email to his constituents. Darcea Hiltz
Tue 30/06/2009 2:19 PM
Tom,
As I mentioned briefly earlier, I am totally against the existing
residents of Oakville and Halton being burdened with the costs
associated with new infrastructure (roads, water, wastewater) required
by the developers in our area.
A tax increase at this, or any, time to pay for items that should be
part and parcel of the costs developers should bear (and pass on to the
purchasers) is ridiculous. It is a burden that must be placed on the
developers and they will either pass the cost along to their clients or
will cut their margins accordingly to account for this. It is a cost of
them doing business and I, for one, am not prepared so swallow a tax
and water increase so they can line their pockets further. Enough is
enough. They should also be prepared to pay for the other items we will
need in the areas: recreation centres and libraries are but a couple of
these.
Please let me know how I might get involved if required on this issue.
Sincerely,
David Nelson
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:25 PM RE: Staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09 I agree with Councillor Adams that the taxpayers of Oakville should not pay the infrastructure costs for roads, etc., and these should be borne entirely by the developers not taxpayers. Robert M. Smallhorn
Tue 30/06/2009 2:25 PM
I support the position of Councillor Adams that the taxpayers of Halton should not pay, through taxes,
development costs to subsidize developers in the region (e.g, new roads, water infrastructure, etc.). To
pass these costs on to Halton taxpayers through higher taxes effectively means that existing residents will
subsidize (i) the development industry and (ii) their customers. Developers will and should build into their
pricing the development charges/costs which they incur, and pass these to their own customers. The right
decision is to have the developers pay for the growth they choose to create in the interests of their
businesses. Jack Shand
Tue 30/06/2009 2:25 PM
Dear Sirs,
Please take note that I support Mr. Adam’s message below. As taxpayers
it is not our responsibility to help fund the developers. The
developers should pay for their own costs. As our representatives,
please protect our interests.
Doug Stickland, C.A.
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:25 PM
Tom, Please review an e-mail below that I sent to Mr. Carr regarding developers paying for the infrastructure instead of the Halton tax payers. This e-mail conveys my views. I am forwarding it to you as an FYI. Best Regards Paul J. Medeiros
Mr. Carr, I was forwarded your e-mail regarding staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09. I am in 100% agreement with you that the costs for new development must be borne by the developers. These are the people that will make significant amounts of money by developing various areas of our region and as such they must pay for the infrastructure to support it. This year, my assessment came in and my home has been assessed at a much higher value which will now result in my taxes going up. I cannot afford to have another 6.1 % increase in both my taxes and water rates on top of my current increase. Mr. Carr, please convey my views in the strongest possible manner to all involved. I do not wish to see developers making exorbitant profits while we the tax payers subsidise their business. If they wish to do business in Halton, then they must support the infrastructure to sustain it. Please contact me should you need anything further. Best Regards, Paul J. Medeiros
Tue 30/06/2009 2:26 PM
Hi Tom, Thank you for your hard working in our region. I already have e mail from Gary and I sent out some photo copies to neighbors and e-mailed friends who live in this region. I know Ryu, Halton KBA president, so I'll ask him to support this bill himself and his members who have around 100 corner stores in Halton. Good luck!,
John
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:26 PM
Dear Gentlemen,
I fully support Mr. Adam’s message below. As taxpayers, it is not our
responsibility to pay for the developers. The developers are making
money from the development and should pay for their own costs! Please
represent us in our interests.
Best Regards,
Catherine Cai
Tue 30/06/2009 2:26 PM
Regional and Town Councillor – Ward 6, Tom Adams: Thank you for your very timely email. I will personally circulate it to as many Halton residents as I can within the next few days. I completely agree with the position you have outlined in your email; namely: “we should put the roads in place to manage the new growth and that new growth should be paid for by the developers and not the existing taxpayers” – my emphasis added. No doubt growth may have been subsidized by taxpayers in the past, but it’s time to reassess this approach before we embark on this new plan for growth. Joyce Stephenson
Tue 30/06/2009 2:26 PM Dar Sir, I sincerely hope that those who were elected and given the authority to make decisions on behalf of the tax payers would not and will not take it upon themselves to allow any plan to have 'development industry and cost of growth' paid for by existing taxpayers. We, the taxpayers, should not be burdened with these related growth costs. We paid our share when we purchased our homes. So why the double dipping. We never took partnership in their equity or entity and it should remain so by the power delegated to our elected representative and trust they will honour this commitment. Yours truly, Rosa and Nabil Macarios
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:26 PM
Dear Mayor & Coucillors,
I believe that the development industry should pay for the cost for new roads, water and
wastewater infrastructure in Halton Region and that transit should be available in any
new subdivisions from the beginning so that residents are able to use transit from the
start.
Thank you for your work to ensure that this happens.
Joanna J. Ringrose
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM
Dear Regional Chair Gary Carr, Mayor and Councillors. Re: CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09 Any associated infrastructure cost related to new development e.g. new roads, water, waste water systems etc. must not be carried by existing Halton region taxpayers. This amounts to "subsidizing" the developers at the expense of us, the existing resident taxpayers. New growth related costs must be borne by the developers. "Caving in" to the developers will result in an unwelcome increase in my taxes and water rates. Please vote for the staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09. Sincerely, Enver Domingo.
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM Dear Mr. Carr,
I fully support your position, the developers should be fully
responsible for said costs! Not the taxpayers.
Feel free to contact me if I am needed.
Sincerely,
Scott Weller
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM
I agree with you, Tom.
It's really unfortunate what is starting to transpire here in Oakville. I moved out of
Mississauga to make Oakville my home, but the growth and losing battles to these
greedy builders will only continue.
We already lost the fight to Ashley Oaks regarding the development at Prince Michael
and Dundas; it won't surprise me that we continue the losing trend. Very
disappointing.
Vince Fuoco
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM Tom
I fully agree with you that developers should be paying for future development, I can not afford 12.2% tax
increase (6.1 % tax 6.1% water). I did not get an increase this year in fact I had to take a 5% pay cut. It
would be a big mistake to allow tax payers to support multi millionaires. We are all facing cut backs,
loosing jobs and these developers want us to help pay their way to make more money and we have to
struggle?
Regards
John Paulic
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM
Good Evening Tom, I am sending my comments regarding the above mentioned report. I totally support the concept that development should pay for growth. The
development industry must be required to pay for the cost for new roads, water and
wastewater infrastructure in Halton Region. It is imperative that the roads be put in
place to manage the new growth, during development. Gridlock continues to be a
problem in Oakville. Every effort needs to be made to minimize this. The cost of
growth must not be paid for by existing taxpayers. Respectfully, Eloise Hardy
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM
Why shouldn't the developers bear the infrastructure costs. I think
many of the residents are like myself and don't even want all this
development. Now where expected to pay for it as well! I'm definitely
not in favor of that. Of what benefit would the developer's plan be to
existing residents and taxpayers? I can't think of any. Dave Watkins.
Tue 30/06/2009 2:27 PM
Dear Tom,
I am writing to you in support of the plan to have developers pay for
the costs related to growth in Halton Region. As a
taxpayer, I resent the notion of an increase in taxes and water rates
when developers take no responsibility for the
impact they have on growth-related infrastructure such as new roads.
New roads should be made to support growth, but not
at the expense of the taxpayer.
Thank you for your commitment to supporting the taxpayers on this issue
Regards
Alison Thomas, Oakville Resident
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:28 PM
I agree with Tom Adams that any charges for water and roads in the new development in Oakville should be covered by the development industry and not by existing taxpayers in Oakville,
Thanks Tom for looking out for your residents in Oakville. Pete. McCabe
Tue 30/06/2009 2:28 PM
I agree that Oakville should continue to grow and that developers should pay for that
growth. Oakville is a desirable place to live due to the pleasant community and proximity
to Toronto. There is no need to subsidize the development process to attract growth.
Dan Watt
Tue 30/06/2009 2:28 PM
Mr. Adams,
As a resident of Oakville, I support your positions with respect to
development costs. As taxpayers it is not our responsibility to help
fund
the developers. The developers must pay for their own costs. I expect
our
Councillors to protect the interest of the existing taxpayers.
Regards
Sandeep Dhillon
Tue 30/06/2009 2:28 PM
Dear Councillor Adams, Thank you for bringing to our attention the current issue of development infrastructure cost and how they are actually gathered. I agree completely that developers should be responsible for all costs to set up the infustructure that would allow them to to build and make profit. Developers stand to gain the most from new developments and no one is forcing them into their business decisions. Basic economics as it relates to supply and demand will prevail and the industry will adjust to suit. On the other hand Halton taxpayers are currently forced to develop infrastructure in order to accommodate developers??!! Also, from an environmental point of view the more we pay out to accommodate developers and pay for new infrastructure the less we have available to implement proper public mass transit which in my opinion is more valuable to our community and country than urban sprawl. Sincerely, Joe Collia Halton resident and taxpayer
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:29 PM
Hello Tom, Thanks once again for being vigilant on this matter and helping to bring it to light (as well as providing the resources for additional research). As per a previous round of communiques my position remains unchanged. NO MORE TAX INCREASES FOR OAKVILLE. The developers in Oakville/Halton have gotten off easy and got very wealthy doing it while providing less home for the dollar. If Developers want to continue the free ride in Halton then they must "INVEST" in our communities and infrastructure is a critical component both in the short-term and in order to facilitate long-term sustainable growth. Tough decisions have to made as to what gets funding or not...I realize this (ex. old trees shouldn't receive tax payers money!). Developers who choice NOT to invest in our communities as part of a win-win should buy up land elsewhere. And as land is now a precious commodity in Oakville, with none left that I am aware of, we should be extremely considerate of how finalize development. As I mentioned previously, we have an incredible opportunity in Oakville North to create a second village environment - one that could continue to fuel tourism to Oakville, create more opportunities for small business, jobs, and even a better more diverse tax base. I strongly urge Halton & Oakville to not roll over on this issue. There are too many future implications. Sincerely, Kevin McKay
Tue 30/06/2009 2:29 PM Tony, Thank you for brining this up once again. As in my first email, I do not approve of the shift of costs transferring over to the taxpayer. I thought the council already denied this. It will be very interesting to see if the councilors cave in. It is ironic that the very homes to be built (with proposed shifting of costs over to the taxpayer), will be the same people not re-electing our current elected officials next election. Richard Gill
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:29 PM
Enough is enough with raising taxes, water rates etc, let the developers pay FULL cost of associated with their projects. Developer should pay 100% for schools, police, fire, daycay etc as their project benefit their pocket books. Taxpayers are paying high rates for everything. Gentlemen, don’t let taxpapers get the short end of the stick as usual!! Gary Sitarz Oakville
Tue 30/06/2009 2:29 PM
Folks, I agree with Tom. If they would like to develop the area, I would like them to pay
for it and not increase our rates. thanks Lynn
Tue 30/06/2009 2:30 PM
Mr. Adams, Please receive this email as my support to the proposed plan CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09. Developers must pay for their own costs and I am confident that you, and your colleagues, are there to protect our interests. As taxpayers we should not be responsible for funding developers interests. Gerry Fedak
Tue 30/06/2009 2:30 PM
Dear Tom,
I have to say I am in total agreement. We already pay a lot of taxes and we should not be expected to pay what is a developer tax as well. A total
12.2% tax increase is a ridiculous request on an already incredibly burdened Oakville taxpayer. Please help me in having my voice heard
and stop this from happening and have the Developer continue with their responsibilities.
Best Regards, Yesenia Morillo
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:30 PM
I am appalled to hear that developers want the taxpayers to pay for the infrastructure costs to put the roads in place to manage the new growth. This has to be stopped at all costs. Taxpayers cannot be saddled for these costs. These costs have to be paid by new home owners and built into the price of their homes, just as we had to when we bought our home. We should put the roads in place to manage the new growth and that new growth MUST be paid for by the developers and not the existing taxpayers. If the developers threaten that they will not do any more development unless the taxpayers pay for this, then I suggest the Region indefinitely postpone building any roads and play hardball. Or else find new Developers that will pay for the infrastructure. Saddling the existing taxpayers with this cost is not an option. Rob Watt
Tue 30/06/2009 2:31 PM
I also very strongly believe that our existing taxpayers should not be burdened with
these growth related costs. Thank you, Susan Susan Bentzen-Bilkvist
Tue 30/06/2009 2:31 PM
Tom, Regarding the email below, I agree with you that new growth (new roads, water/wastewater
infrastructure, etc) should be paid for by the developers and not the existing taxpayers
and they need to build appropriate infrastructure before developing. I also think the
Town needs to manage the growth so that we have respect the environment and not over-
build.
Sincerely,
Mark
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:31 PM
Hi Tom, Thanks for the update. I completely support your position. I do NOT think that the taxpayer should be responsible for this cost. The cost should be the responsibility of the developer and inherently the end user, who is purchasing the new property, and not the rest of the taxpayers. The developers have the most to gain from this, by transferring the cost to the taxpayer, and in term lowering their building costs and increasing their profits. The citizens and the town of Oakville should not bear this cost. Thanks Marko Giljanovic
Tue 30/06/2009 2:31 PM
Dear Tom Adams, Thank you for bringing this important issue to my attention. I am strongly opposed to increasing our tax burden, and believe that development growth should be self-sustaining in order for it to be considered viable. Please keep me posted of any developments. Kind regards, Chris Morillo
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
Dear Sir, Below is an exerpt from Mr. Tom Adam's email;
I need your assistance. Halton Regional staff have presented a plan to have development
pay for growth. Staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09 outlining this plan is
available on our website at www.halton.ca for your reference. This would mean that the development industry would pay for the cost for new roads, water and wastewater
infrastructure in Halton Region to ensure that the cost of growth is not paid for by
existing taxpayers.
I believe that our existing taxpayers should not be burdened with these growth related
costs.
Lawyers representing some developers have argued that the developers should not pay
for these costs, and that instead either taxpayers should pay or we should postpone
building the roads that are required. I completely disagree.
The cost to the taxpayers if the developers get their way is a 6.1% increase on taxes and
6.1% increase on water rates.
These same developers have started a campaign to contact councillors to get them to
postpone building the roads and/or have the taxpayer of Halton subsidize their
development in our Region.
I would appreciate your assistance. If you agree with me that we should put the roads in
place to manage the new growth and that new growth should be paid for by the
developers and not the existing taxpayers, please send me an email at
[email protected] and copy Regional Chair Gary Carr at [email protected] as well as Mayor Rob Burton at [email protected]. I will pass it along to my other
Regional Councillor colleagues to ensure they are aware of your views on this issue
before they vote on it in July. Please forward this to your family and friends living in any
part of Halton Region (Oakville, Burlington, Milton and Halton Hills) so that they can
email me as well. Please ensure your voice is heard clearly on this issue.
I agree wholeheartedly that taxpayers should not be burdened with these costs. Please help protect the citizens of Oakville and Halton. Sincerely, Brian Snair
http://www.halton.ca/mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM Allan I am in full support of your position on this matter. The developer must be responsible for the costs of New Roads, Water and Wastewater Infrastructure, put in place by the Town and the Region truly Geoff Slater
Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
It is about time that developers stop getting a free ride!!! We
are quickly becoming a "Mississauga", which in my opinion is NOT a
good thing, and I am appalled to now hear that the developers want
the existing tax payers to help fund their profits!!!!!!
I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST HAVING ANY TAX HIKE TO SUPPORT
DEVELOPMENT!! I say let the developers build their housing sites,
and the town not build the roads to support that population
(warning the buyers in advance that no support roads will be built)
and see how many houses they actually sell!!
Concerned Oakville resident,
Lise Longlade
Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
We agree with your position on this.
R & ML REYNOLDS
Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
Hello Tom, Thanks for your email. You have the support of my husband and I on your opposition to the developers arguments. As seniors, we do not have 6% to hand over to the developers, nor do we feel that it is deserved. If it takes existing tax payers to pay for their infrastructure, then perhaps they should be looking elsewhere. I have forwarded your note to my Halton region friends and associates, whom I am sure will support your position as well. Good luck and thank you for giving us a chance to “voice” our opinion and support. Susan Leathem
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
We agree with Councillor Adams. The taxpayers of Oakville should not pay the
infrastructure costs for roads etc. These should be borne by the developers not taxpayers.
Walter and Marjorie Yamka
Tue 30/06/2009 2:32 PM
Tom
Thanks for your note and I have passed it along to other people in Oakville. Gary
Carr had sent me a similar note and I appreciate both of your efforts.
I agree with you 100% and do no think that taxpayers should be burdened with
these development costs. I also disagree with the developers position that we should
postpone the building of these roads until the taxpayers pay. They should pay for
this development and the development should be approved by council prior to
building to ensure the development meets the needs of residents and the LongTerm
Oakville Plan.
Fred Fairs
Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
Dear Tom, Thank you for your email regarding future development in Oakville. I wholeheartedly agree the development of roads should be paid for by developers. This infrastructure should be in place before or as new areas are developed. Traffic in halton is already a headache. All routes are already at capacity during the rush hours. We cannot expect current taxpayers to pay for roads into and around land being developed. This is the responsibility of developers. Please do not vote to pass this expense onto current tax payers. We cannot afford it. Nicola Jandrew
Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
Thanks gentlemen for the opportunity. Please add our names as residents supporting
you in attributing the costs of development/growth to the Developers. We agree with
your position 100%. It is about time that these Developers stop "having the cake
and eating it too". The habit of presenting Oakville lands to Developers on a silver
plate and feed them with a golden spoon must end!
Mario Lourenco
Gloria Lourenco
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
Hi Tony ... as a resident of Oakville for the past 37 years now living in Upper Glen Abbey I am angered at
the very thought of what the developers are suggesting. Living in our town is a privilege that we the
taxpayers understand and comply to in regards to the taxes we currently pay. However, the very thought
of developers continually wanting to add to the incredibly large number of new homes already built, and
still planning to build without having any responsibility to the infrastructures that support the new home
development floors me. This is an a act of greed that needs to be recognized and stopped. Why should
they be allowed to come in, make their millions and not have to contribute to the surrounding needs of
the neighbourhoods they are creating. As it is a privilege to live here it is also a privilege to do business
here. If the developers are not happy they should go elsewhere. Quite frankly ... I’ve seen enough of the
new housing market in our town. Sincerely, Tracey Gentili
Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
Dear Mr Adams: I fully support your position that developers should foot the bill for any infrastructure changes required as a result of their projects. Why should the tax-payers have to bear the financial burden resulting from unprecedented decimation of farmland, which is replaced by lot after lot of congested cookie-cutter patches of houses? Instead they should be compensated for the destruction of their land! We already face the impacts of this "development" every day as we navigate through the traffic, congestion, pollution, strain on our hospitals and schools, and other degradations of our life style. (E.g. Ten years ago 80 percent of our food was locally produced - today it is a meager 10 percent.) I'm not sure where this will end but at least let's not have the developers insult us further by passing on their costs. Sincerely Armeda Vanderwoude
Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
Mr. Adams,
Thank you for looking out for the local residents of Halton. I
believe that my taxes should not go to help developers.When business
company's wish to expand or build, all related costs should be covered
by the company not me.
They are not sharing the profit with me, so why should I share the
cost.
Thank You A. Hutchins Oakville
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:33 PM
We belive the roadworks and parks should be funded bythe developers, not the taxpayers. J & T Tomko
Tue 30/06/2009 2:34 PM
Dear Sirs, Re: Staff Report – CS-49-09/ PW-20-09/LPS80-09 “Help Make Development Pa For Itself” As an Oakville taxpayer and senior citizen, I wish to express my views on the above mentioned subject. I am appalled at all the new development in Oakville, as we used to be such a quaint “Town” of Oakville where families and tourists enjoyed small time life. Unfortunately, it appears we are gradually becoming another Mississauga and this is NOT good! We, who have lived in Oakville for many years, would like to keep it small and quaint with our unique boutiques and gourmet restaurants etc and put a “freeze” on new construction. Our population is already too large and the present infrastructure cannot handle the existing traffic and parking downtown is a nightmare! If the region insists on increasing development, the high costs of such construction/ infrastructure etc. should be bourn by the developers NOT the existing taxpayers. We are already burdened with high taxes which should be utilized on keeping our pretty little town beautiful and attractive for those who live here and for our tourists! Therefore, I agree with Tom Adams and the Halton Regional Staff’s assessment of the situation and if I were to have a vote, it would be “NO” to taxpayers picking up the tab for the developers. The thought alone of 6.1% and 6.1% increase on tax and water rates is outrageous! Thank you in advance for taking the time to read my opinions on this matter. Yours truly, Barbara Blake Oakville Taxpayer
Tue 30/06/2009 2:34 PM Dear Tom - We strongly believe that developers should bear the costs of infrastructure and improvements related to their projects and that these costs should not be borne by taxpayers. This is not only an issue of immediate importance, it is the chance to set a precedent that will protect taxpayers long-term. Thank you, as always, for your hard work on behalf of your constituents.
Claire and Loyd Zadorozny
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Tue 30/06/2009 2:34 PM
Tom,
I completely agree with your stance.It is an additional burden for retired taxpayers to
cover the costs of developers who would be the only benefactors of such an increase.
Seems as if the lawyers are practicing the theory of the rich get richer and the poor get
poorer.
This is another example of why the economy is in such a mess to-day---greed!
Let the developers pay their own way as they are the only ones that will profit .
Regards,
Larry Moore
Tue 30/06/2009 2:34 PM
Dear Tom, I concur with you that cost of new development should be paid by the developers and not through tax
hike. Please fight for us . Kind regards and respects, Junaid Waheed
Tue 30/06/2009 2:37 PM Tom,
As I mentioned briefly earlier, I am totally against the existing
residents of Oakville and Halton being burdened with
the costs associated with new infrastructure (roads, water, wastewater)
required by the developers in our area.
A tax increase at this, or any, time to pay for items that should be
part and parcel of the costs developers should bear
(and pass on to the purchasers) is ridiculous. It is a burden that must
be placed on the developers and they will either
pass the cost along to their clients or will cut their margins
accordingly to account for this. It is a cost of them
doing business and I, for one, am not prepared so swallow a tax and
water increase so they can line their pockets
further. Enough is enough. They should also be prepared to pay for the
other items we will need in the areas: recreation
centres and libraries are but a couple of these.
Please let me know how I might get involved if required on this issue.
Sincerely,
David Nelson
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:35 AM Very definitely shuld be paid by the developers Lillian Sellini
Fri 03/07/2009 9:36 AM
Please support the staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09 which would assure that development industry pay for the cost for new roads, water and wastewater infrastructure in Halton Region. This will have 2 benefits to the present tax payers who have already paid for the infrastructure we are using. It will slow down the development in the Region which has been proceeding at too fast a pace and will keep the taxes down from unacceptable increases. Dan and Linda Reid
Fri 03/07/2009 9:36 AM
Dear Mr. Adams, Mr. Burton and Mr. Carr:
Thank you for your email regarding the Halton Regional staff report CS-49-09/PW-20-09/LPS80-09.
I support your stance on having the development industry pay for the cost of new infrastructure. As a residential property taxpayer, I am already burdened with the cost of maintaining the existing
infrastructure and I object to have any increases in my taxes in order to support new developments. As a commercial property taxpayer, I fail to understand how supporting another business (developers)
would benefit my business by potentially increasing my commercial taxes. Best regards, Addy El-Rayes
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:37 AM
Dear Mr. Mayor: I do not want to subsidize development in any way. Please make sure the developers pay for new roads and possibly other infrastructure.
Suzanne Allen
Fri 03/07/2009 9:37 AM
Councillor Adams,
I am writing to you in reference to the mentioned Staff report and that lawyers
representing some developers are opposed to it - they would prefer existing taxpayers to
pay for growth.
I believe that our existing taxpayers should not be burdened with these growth related
costs.
The cost to the taxpayers if the developers get their way is a 6.1% increase on taxes and
6.1% increase on water rates. If this were to pass then the developers are effectively
getting an economic stimulus not from the government but from the resident taxpayers -
this would be absurd.
I have shared your email with other residents in my neighbourhood.
Your diligence in communicating important information like this is appreciated - keep up
the work and the fight!
Sincerely,
Ron Marciniak
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:37 AM
Good Morning Tom, I agree with your position. I think it would be very short sighted to not build roads AHEAD of development, and observe the Cornwall Road ‘redevelopment’ is now taking place at a much greater cost than would have been the case if It had been a two lane each way from the get go. And, I speak to the frustrations of the users at the on going congestion at the Ford Drive/Cornwall Road intersection from the moment the road was opened. I had a conversation with our Town Councilor at the time and her response (with which I strongly disagreed ) was you have to wait until the development is complete, because that way, the town gets more infrastructure money from the province. In the meantime Cornwall road was interrupted each time a new building was built so the water, sewer, and services could be connected, a situation which continues today. It makes no sense, it is not net cost effective, and frustrating to the users. My take on the developers’ position is that they would like to have the Town (and current taxpayers) effectively subsidize their bottom line and that’s not right. The development is their baby and they should assume full responsibility for the costs which they can recover when their properties are sold. It is their risk, not that of all Oakville tax payers. I find their request offensive. Regards, Bill Drever
Fri 03/07/2009 9:38 AM
I agree with developers covering these expenses.
Karen O'Dell
Fri 03/07/2009 9:41 AM
I believe that our existing taxpayers should NOT be burdened with these growth
related costs.
Best regards,
Norma Summers
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:41 AM Tom Adams
Regional and Town Councillor
Oakville Ward 6
Dear Sir I have read with interest the recent news relative to development costs and where they should be borne. In 2002 my family and I relocated to Oakville. One of the greatest attractions of Oakville at the time, was
the "Small Community Atmosphere" that was so evident. Unfortunately now, a mere seven years later,
this is no longer the case, already we are loosing this part of our identity. Most unfortunate. I do not live in a cloud, and I appreciate that development must happen in order to sustain a balanced
economy etc. however I am not in favour of having to bear the costs of this growth - in short, I am
content as we now stand. These costs must in my opinion, be incorporated into the development costs
and be carried solely by the developer. Thank you for your attention in this matter. Yours respectfully. Roy Amm
Fri 03/07/2009 9:42 AM
Hi Tom,
Thank you for your email. I totally agree with your stance on this
issue. These costs should be absorbed by the developers and not
Halton residents.
I have forwarded your email to many Oakville residents.
Good luck in the fight, and let me know if there is anything else I
can do to become involved.
Regards,
James Alexander
Oakville resident
Fri 03/07/2009 9:42 AM
I agree with Alan Johnston that we should put the roads in place to manage the new growth and that new growth should be paid for by the developers and not the existing
taxpayers!! Please pass along to your Regional Councillor colleagues to ensure our voices
are heard - thank you,
Megan and Agostino Mancuso, Oakville residents
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:43 AM
Dear Mr. Carr and Mr. Adams, It seems clear to me that existing taxpayers are not benefited at all by the additional infrastructure needed to sustain new development in this region. If roads, water and wastewater facilities are required to support new development then these costs should be born by the developers who will financially profit from the development projects. To the extent they are able, they can pass these costs along to the purchasers of new home and business properties. Logically, if these costs are too high to make new developments profitable (which seems highly doubtful to me) then it is clear that this is a business venture that should be pursued once business conditions change. I can’t fathom why I should want to financially support development in this region such that a for-profit entity earns a higher return. The suggestion that such a significant property tax increase be forced on existing homeowners is offensive. I therefore fully support the Regional Staff’s plan to ensure these infrastructure costs are borne by the development industry. Regards, Niklas Moeller
Fri 03/07/2009 9:43 AM
developers should pay development charges. These charges should not be added to our tax bills. Patti Eix
Fri 03/07/2009 9:43 AM
I agree that the development industry should pay for the cost of services such as roads, water pipes, new libraries and recreation centres, etc.. Existing residents should not have to pay for infrastructure needed because of the pressures brought on by new residents. Please do not give in to the lobbying and the complaints by the developers who not want to pay for these development charges.
Mrs. Sandra Yiu
Fri 03/07/2009 9:44 AM
I agree with councillor Adams that existing Halton taxpayers should not be burdened with the costs of developing new roads, water and wastewater infrastructure, and that these costs should be paid for by the development industry. I am against any tax increase for these purposes. Scott Harvie
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Fri 03/07/2009 9:44 AM Dear Tom I believe that our existing taxpayers should not pay additional cost for development
industry.
Thanks.
Amy
Fri 03/07/2009 9:45 AM
Gentlemen, It's time that developers pay for new services incurred by their projects. Our
tax load is heavy enough.If they want to go somewhere else, then so be it.The roads are
congested as it is. Jack Ritchie
Fri 03/07/2009 11:30 AM
Hello Mr. Adams,
My wife and I strongly believe that developers, not existing
taxpayers, should be responsible for growth related charges. These
developers have made plenty of money building new homes in Oakville
over the last ten years. It's not like developers will be paying for
these charges themselves, they will most definitely be passing along
these costs to the new home buyers.
You have our full support on this matter.
Thank you,
Rino and Carmelina Romano.
Wed 08/07/2009 10:52 AM
I agree with Alan Johnston that we should put the roads in place to manage the new
growth and that new growth should be paid for by the developers and not the existing
taxpayers Chris Larsen
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Wed 08/07/2009 10:54 AM
I am in total agreement that development must pay for itself. If the developers want to build new subdivisions then they also need to cover the costs of the infrastructure to support these developments. These additional costs should not be off loaded to the taxpayers of Oakville. Regards Elizabeth Avetissian
Wed 08/07/2009 10:55 AM
Dear Alan I agree that existing taxpayers should not shoulder the cost of new growth and that the cost should be absorbed by the developers. Infrastructure (roads) needs to be in place first, before any new development takes place. The congestion in the region is significant now and will only get worse if sufficient roadways are not in place before any more development occurs. Respectfully submitted, Cheryl Christoffersen
Wed 08/07/2009 10:55 AM
Tom: Thanks for your input on this very important subject. I don't believe the Taxpayer should be assessed for these costs and as a Commercial Realtor I've been involved in transactions whereby the DC's are part of the costs for this kind of expense. I know you've been getting enough resistance re: Development Charges, however, if you will take a page out of Hazel McCallion's book all you'll need to know is that up until now she's been very successful (Canada' 9th largest City) in passing those cost onto the developers. Having said that, if you take these charges, spread over say a 100,000 sq. building, amortize same over the first tenancy term, 10 years or amortize over 25 years, the costs on a per square foot basis are not that significant. With today's costs of labour, material,etc. being less than 18 months ago these should be absorbed in costs to the tenancies of the buildings, who in turn are the ones that will use those roads and infrastructure the most. With the new proposed HST we've be told that in today's cost of say, for every $100,000 that, that will be lessened by $3000 or $4000. The development industry should pay for the cost for new roads, water and wastewater infrastructure in Halton Region and as our elected representatives you should ensure that the cost of growth is not paid for by existing taxpayers. Those taxpayer's on guaranteed incomes are in some cases existing but are able to stay in their own homes do not need this additional burden. The aforementioned are my personal comments and are Without Prejudice and do not reflect that of Colliers Bob Robertson
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Wed 08/07/2009 10:55 AM
I support a continuation of the status quo. As a former developer one might think that I would support the
developers' option. Not so. Before retirement, I was Vice president of Finance of Matthews Group Limited of London and
Mississauga, Ontario. Matthews developed most of the land and almost all of the housing in Elliot Lake,
Ontario (a resource mining community), developed 383 acres of land (50% interest) surrounding Square
One Shopping Centre (with S.B. McLaughlin Associates) including major low-density and high-density
residential, the Novotel Hotel at the corner of Burnhamthorpe and Highway 10 in Mississauga, apartment
building at the southeast corner of Eglinton Ave.and Hurontario St., residential housing in London, Ontario,
and much industrial and commercial development in Mississauga, London and Edmonton and Leduc,
Alberta. Other than a set of street lights on Burnhamthorpe Rd. and Mavis Rd. 10 years before there were
really needed, I never had any problem paying our share of infrastructure costs. All new residents of Oakville over the years have paid for the infrastructure in their own neighbourhoods
(with a small contribution from existing home owners and business) and this should continue.
Robert Decker