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The Denver Gold Forum 2008
Gold Has it run into trouble?Dr. Martin MurenbeeldSeptember 9, 2008
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The work of economists requires accuracy and
good judgment!
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Gold Price Scenarios
2007-avg 2007-end 2008-avg
Scenario A: p.=.10% $661 $630 $587
Scenario B: p.=.60% $679 $736 $790Scenario C: p.=.30% $698 $832 $968___________________________________________
Probability-Weighted: $683 $754 $823
Actual: $695 $836 $???
(Jan-Aug 2008 average: $906)
Last Years Forecast at this Breakfast:
(Aug-Sep 07 average: $689!)
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1. While we anticipated some monetary
easing:The US housing sector could forcemonetary easing in the near term
2. we did not anticipate the full-blowncredit
market crisisaround the world.3. Our forecast looked spot-on before
central banks started pumpingliquidityinto
the system 4. But thats why we use Scenarios when
we forecast!
What Happened?
Our forecast was not aggressive enough
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Last date: March 23, 2007
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Overview
Gold reacted sharply to the crisis
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Bear StearnsFreddie MacFannie Mae
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Overview
but has since returned to its basic uptrend!
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Freddie MacFannie Mae
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Overview:
Remember, gold always corrects in its long cycle
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Several yearsof counter-
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1. Monetary reflation is on the short-medium-long termhorizon
2. The dollar must decline against Asian, OPEC,Russian currencies
3. Excessive dollar reserves are part of the global
financial problem diversification is likely4. Gold remains cheap on a relative basis
5. Gold supply remains constrained
6. Gold investment demand is in a long-run uptrend andphysical demand responds when prices drop
7. Commodity cycles last many years
8. The geopolitical/financial environment favors gold
Our Eight Bullish Arguments:
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There are only three ways to stimulate an
economy:1. Ease monetary policy cut interest rates
print more money
2. Increase government spending enlargethe budget deficit cut taxes
3. Devalue the currency boost exports
dampen imports
Thereafter tariffs and trade wars !
(1) Monetary Reflation
Monetary reflation is the key for gold
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(1) Monetary Reflation
US rates are low, foreign rates will follow
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Mid-Cycle Slowdown
US recession
Recession?
(1) Monetary Reflation
US economy is in recession
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Source: OECD Economic Outlook June 2008
(1) Monetary Reflation
But house prices abroad also high
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Last quarter: 2007-Q4
(1) Monetary Reflation
Debt has risen sharply in US (and the world)
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The US CongressionalBudget Office estimatesthat federal governmentspending as a % of GDPwill rise beyond 30% incoming years on the
back of entitlementprograms.
But it isnt only the USthat will see risingentitlement payments!
Source: WSJ, April 3, 2008
(1) Monetary Reflation
Baby-boomer entitlements will stress budgets
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(1) Monetary Reflation
US deficits are already rising dramatically
What will F&F doto the deficit?
And will the Fedbuy debt?
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Government Choices:Renege on promises
Cut other servicesRaise taxes
Print more money
(1) Monetary Reflation
and choices for debt reduction are limited
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Print more money:
If the Fed can monetize Bear Stearns securities to prevent a "crisis," whatis to prevent it from monetizing the U.S. Treasury's outstanding debt asit is doing constantly on a small scale anyway when Social Security andMedicare costs overwhelm the federal budget? The Fed has always ALWAYS been subservient to the Treasury. So when some futureExecutive with his agreeable Congress must fund burgeoning SocialSecurity payments, and pressures the Fed to keep interest rates "low" sothat the Treasury can market new securities to pay Social Securitybenefits, what will a pliant FOMC reply if it has the precedent of BearStearns in 2008? Will it say, "No, Mr. President; we cannot buy any moresecurities right now. That would cause inflation, and violate our pledge to
keep the dollar stable?"
CATO Institute: The Imperial Fed: Does it Have Enough Power?
April 14, 2008
(1) Monetary Reflation
Do we really mean print more money?
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(1) Monetary Reflation
Global liquidity drives gold
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Latest month:Gold: Aug 2008Liquidity: Jun 2008
Global Liquidity: FX Reserves + US MBaseSource: IMF, Federal Reserve
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Last date: March 23, 2007
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(2) US Dollar
The Dollar peaked in 2002 and bottomed in 2008?
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Gold moves inversely with the Dollar/Euro
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The US Dollar in Euros
Correlation
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Last date: March 23, 2007
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(2) US Dollar
But it is time to shift our Dollar frame-of-reference
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US trade deficit with China is unsustainable
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The RMB and Asian currencies need to rise
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Country Current* Estimate** Changecurrency/$ currency/$ %
China 6.850 5.450 25.7%
India 43.88 37.10 18.3%
Japan 108.8 90.10 20.8%Malaysia 3.393 2.470 59.2%
Canada 106.2 102.0 4.9%
Euro*** 1.467 147.0 0.2%Russia 24.65 23.50 4.9%S Arabia 3.751 3.410 10.0%* Aug 29,08** July 2008*** Inverse rate
(2) US Dollar
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(3) US Dollar Reserves
18 countries hold a collective $6.0 trillion
Source: IMF - IFS June 08
bn$ bn$
China 1779.1 Algeria 133.2
Japan 973.8 Malaysia 124.4
OPEC 527.0 Thailand 103.0Russia 554.1 Mexico 93.0
India 302.3 Libya 88.6
Taiwan 291.4 Poland 79.2
Korea 257.7 Turkey 75.5Brazil 199.8 Indonesia 55.1
Singapore 176.7
Hong Kong 158.9 Total 5973.0
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Gold peak of$850 translatesinto $2300 intodays money!
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gold =$6275 with1275 S&P
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Gold cheap in terms of financial assets
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tonnes
WORLD TOTAL 29770.2
Subject to CBGA 12471.3Unlikely to Sell 10319.4
US 8133.5
Japan 765.1
China 600.0Russia 463.1
India 357.7
Official Institutions 3343.2
IMF 3217.0
BIS 126.2
LEFT OVER 3636.4
Source IMF - Jun '08
Loose gold totalsabout 4000 tonnes
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(5) Supply
Loose Central Bank gold is benign
Russiaisbuying
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Billion US$
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Jewelry plus Net Retail Investment Demand
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Recession
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Gold demand is alsostimulated by marketderegulation andimprovements in
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Investment demand is stimulated by the ETFs
Last date: August 28/08
GOLD TONNAGE - ETF
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Investment demand has a long way to grow!
Source: McKinsey & Company, IMF, Barclays
Global financial assetstotal $ 123 trillion
Managed assets$ 55 trillion
Managedcommodities$ 250 billion
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(7) Commodity Cycle
The shortest copper cycle lasted 16 years
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(7) Commodity Cycle
The shortest wheat cycle is 13 years
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(8) Geopolitical
Iran had an impact the last time around
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(8) FinancialGold always rises when financial system at risk
Gold Price: 1981-1983
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MexicanDebt Crisis
Penn SquareCollapse
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1. Theeurocould decline further against the dollar
and $/euro correlation could remain high forlonger than we think
2. Recessionsreduce demand for commodities,reduce inflation pressures and gold often
suffers
3. The rest of the world may not be decoupled,weak growthin India and China couldhurt golddemand
4. USreal interest rates will risewhen the creditcrisis and recession ends
5. Dehedgingwill come to an end
Bearish Arguments
Unfortunately there are some strong ones:
(1) E T i P i t
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Will gold follow when the euro declines or ?
Last month: August 2008
Euro in US dollars(Reconstructed prior to 1999)
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(2) Recessions
Gold often declines on back of US recessions
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Last month: August 2008
Probable USRecession
(2) The World May Not Decouple
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US Recession
(2) The World May Not Decouple
CRB index always declines during US recessions
Last month: August 2007
Reuters-Jeffries CRB Index
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Probable US
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(3) Real Interest RatesReal rates will rise again when the crises pass
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(4) Dehedging Will End
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(4) Dehedging Will End
and gold will lose this demand componentHedging Dehedging
Year Net Year Net
1983 4 2000 -15
1984 38 2001 -1511985 62 2002 -412
1986 45 2003 -289
1987 149 2004 -438
1988 353 2005 -92
1989 178 2006 -410
1990 234 2007 -4461991 66 2008 -450 (e)
1992 135
1993 142
1994 105 ASSUMED
1995 475
1996 142 2009 -300
1997 504 2010 -200
1998 97 2011 -32
1999 506
Total 3235 Total -3235
source: GFM S, M urenbeeld estimates
A simple calculationsuggests that there
will only be about530 tonnes of goldleft to be dehedgedat the end of 2008!
The September 9th Forecast:
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Gold Price Scenarios
2008-avg 2008-end 2009-avg
Scenario A: p.=.15% $860 $738 $686
Scenario B: p.=.40% $876 $820 $823Scenario C: p.=.45% $897 $930 $1002___________________________________________
Probability-Weighted: $883 $869 $883(Jan-Aug 2008 average: $906)
The September 9thForecast:
Bearish factors given more weight
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Gold has run into short-term trouble.
Over the next several years gold must
depend on reflationary policies. We thinksuch policies willbe introduced to deal withweak economic growth and disinflation.
The gold market will be volatile in themeanwhile.
The long-run outlook remains positive!
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