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TitoOsiliirVol. 19, No. 18 Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology FEBRUARY 3,1984

Barbara Hutchison and student Scott Oblandler are enjoying refreshments during the inter-

mission of her show last Saturday. Nick Jokay photo

Committee proposes"Minus" gradesThe committee on Rules and

Discipline will propose theconcept of "minus" grades atthe Institute meeting onFebruary 7.Two schemes have been

developed. Scheme one setsan "A" at 4.00; "A-" at 3.75;"B+", 3.25; "B", 3.00; "B-",2.75; etc. Scheme two sets an"A" at 4.00; "A-", 3.67;"B+", 3.33; "B", 3.00; "B-",2.67, etc.Elimination of the D+

grade will also be motioned,as will the motion that thegrade(s) D (and D+) not beaccepted as satisfactory inany course which is a prere-quisite for further courses in astudent's curriculum."I want a minus grade in ad-

dition to the grades thatcurrently exist so that thegrading system could moreadequately differentiatelevels of student perfor-mance," remarked Dyer, whoproposed the motion."Students who receive a D inthe first course in a sequencehave a higher probability offailing the second course," headded.Dyer insists that the propos-

ed system is not intended topenalize the student butrather to raise the minimumrequirements, so students willgraduate more qualified.

Winter Blood Drive needs donors"Make the Human Connection— Give Blood" is the theme forthe Winter Blood Drive, co-sponsored by the Residence HallAssociation, Inter-FraternityCouncil, and Alpha Phi Omega.The Winter Blood Drive will takeplace on Wednesday, Feb. 8,1984, from 10:00 a.m. to 3:00p.m. in the gameroom."The human connection in

donating blood is vital," saysDan Kieffner, blood drive co-chairman. "Over 300 units ofblood are needed each day by theCentral Indiana Region, whichincludes Rose-Hulman.At this time, there is no way to

artificially synthesize blood orno long-term blood substitute.Therefore, all blood which is

needed for any purpose mustcome from donors." The goal forthe Winter Blood Drive is 160donors.Last quarter individuals spent

too much time giving bloodbecause so many peopleattempted to donate over thelunch hour. It would beappreciated if donations weremade outside of the hours 11:30a.m. to 1:00 p.m. There will alsobe two more beds available tohelp minimize any delays.Donating blood may be one of

the most important things thatyou do this week. It is painless,normally takes 30-45 minutes,and could save a life. Make thehuman connection — pleaseconsider donating.

Faulty arrestors causeCampus blackoutsRose has lost its electrical

power once over Christmasbreak and twice since then.According to Bill Mullin, head

of Buildings and Grounds, thefirst outage over Christmasbreak was due to a semi-trailerhitting the lines in front of Rose.The most recent blackouts

have been caused by faultylightning arrestors on the polegoing to the maintenancebuilding. The arrestors aresupposed to eliminate surges inthe power lines. Any excessvoltage that runs through thelines will be transferred to thearrestors and then be grounded.Mullin stated that "both of the

days the power went out weredamp. The dampness in the airallowed the normal voltage to betransferred to the arrestors."

The arrestors were worn out,allowing a fuse to blow by themain entrance to Rose.

The reason it takes so long torestore power is that the powercompany first sends out a man tosee what is wrong. A line crew isthen sent out to repair theproblem. The line crew mustdisconnect the faulty arrestor,then replace the blown fuse.

New arrestors were orderedafter the first blackout andshould arrive January 30.

Expert addresses topic:"Arms Race and Soviet Politics"

Dr. Sanford Gottlieb, inter-nationally known expert on thearms race and Soviet politics,will speak on Monday, Feb. 6, at4:20 p.m. in Olin 203 about the"Arms Race and SovietPolitics." He will also speak at8:00 p.m. at the UnitedMinistries Center, 321 NorthSeventh, in Terre Haute.Dr. Gottlieb is the executive

director of United Campuses toPrevent Nuclear War (UCAM)headquartered in Washington,D.C. He has been a director ofSANE and New Directions, agroup promoting Salt II. HisTerre Haute lecture is the firststop on a national speaking tour.Dr. Gottlieb has been a

member of the MX missile-basing advisory board, and has

received a doctorate at theUniversity of Paris.He has also published a book

called "What About theRussians?"Dr. Gottlieb will address the

topic of "Peace Issues in the '84Elections." Questions anddiscussion with the public will bewelcomed.This event is co-sponsored by

the United Ministries Center andthe Wabash Valley Coalition forPeace and Justice. Rose-Hulmanstudents, faculty and staff areinvited to attend.

Responses to theCoed Question

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RHA pollsCoed activity Interest

by Bill BradfordRecently the Rose-Hulman

Residence Hall Association(RHA) conducted acoeducational activity interestsurvey. Of the fifty percent whoresponded to the survey,approximately ninety percentsupported more campusactivities involving females.Chuck Smith. a representative

of RHA and the instigator of thecoed interest project, said, "Ifeel learning to develop sociallyis just as much a part ofeducation as academicdevelopment. At an all maleschool there is little possibilityfor interaction with females,therefore little possibility forsocial development."

By the survey, Smith intendedto find out if his opinion wasshared by other Rose students.Smith was enthusiastic with theresults, which showed that thestudents were quite supportiveof coed activities. Smith stated,"I was quite surprised that sohigh a percentage (92%) of guyswith fiances, wives, or steadygirlfriends" showed a desire formore interaction with femalesthan they are currently having.

The survey also indicated whattype of activities studentswanted to participate in enablingRHA to channel their efforts inthat direction. Of 343 tabulatedresponses, eighty percentindicated that they would bewilling to drive or find a ride asfar as St. Mary-of-the-Woods toparticipate in coed activities.Smith was pleased at thisresponse because the expense ofbus transportation wouldseriously restrict the amount ofcoed activities.As a result of the survey RHA

has been coordinating coed

events. The first large eventplanned is Friday. February 10,when girls are welcome to eat atARA's steak night at a reducedprice of two dollars. Followingthe dinner, at 7:00 p.m. is theRHA movie and at 8:00 p.m. adance in the WORX. The themefor the dance is appropriately,"Let's Get Together."

According to Smith,communication and cooperationwith St. Mary-of-the-Woods is ofprimary concern. The RHA willtry to work with the StudentSenate of St. Mary's. He hopesthat this will publicize the RHAmovies to more females.Apparently, feelings towardcoed activities are the same atSt. Mary's. Smith said. "Whenwe contacted their Senate, wefound out that they wereconsidering a similar survey — itjust happened to coincide."

Smith cited the response toquestion ten as being "thehighlight of the survey." Theresponse showed eighty percentof the students would beinterested in attending acombined dance/party for allIndiana State, St. Marv-of-the-Woods, and Rose students, evenif no alcohol was provided."In past years dances with St.

Mary's were successful, but theyjust haven't been carried on."Smith said.

Earlier this school year Smithwas entertaining thoughts of making Springfest an all campusparty to include fraternities, etc.The "bash" would feature livebands and dancing, and schoolssuch as I.U.P.Y., DePauw, I.U.,St. Mary's and I.S.U., would beinvited. Smith was "very pleasedto see that the survey says thereis interest in such a party even ifalcohol is not provided."

NEWS BRIEFSConvocations move to evenings

by Scott HaneyRose no longer holds

morning convocations mainlybecause of poor attendance."It got to the point wheremaybe 100 people would showup," said Dean Eifert. "Whyinconvenience the other 1200people? None of our convosare so important that theycannot be held in theevenings," he added. "Thepeople who are interested willbe there anyway."The renovation of Moench

Hall has had an effect on theattendance as well. Morningconvocations would split labperiods into two parts,making it difficult to getanything accomplished."Since we are short on space

( in Moench ), we have toschedule more labs in theremaining rooms. Thiscreates a conflict that wedidn't have in the past."

"We still feel that theconvocations are animportant part of a student'scultural education," statedEifert. "It's just that nowthey will occur after 5:00p.m."

He also said that anoccasional morning convo-ca tion could be held, ifthe scheduled speakercouldn't come at anothertime. In addition, he notedthat a comeback may bemade after the Moenchrenovation is complete.

Trevino chairs power societyDr. Carlos Trevino will

chair a session on powereducation at the annualmeeting of the PowerEngineering Society of theInstitute of Electrical andElectronics Engineers inDallas, Texas, Jan. 29-Feb. 3.The scope of Prof.

Trevino's work with thePower Engineering EducationCommittee of IEEE is ' toimprove the relationshipsbetween all segments of thepower industry and allelements of the engineeringand technology education andprofessional development in

schools and industry.The group also works with

other appropriate PowerEngineering Societycommittees to develop con-tinuing education programsin the power field andcontributes to the IEEEpress.Dr. Trevino, who has been a

member of the Rose-Hulmanfaculty since 1982, earned aB.S. from the InstituteTechnologico y de EstudiosSuperiores de Monterrey(Mexico) and the M.S. andPh.D. degrees from theUniversity of Wisconsin.

Rose ranks fifth nationwideby Mitch Day schools as Notre Dame,

"We are really pleased that Purdue, and 1.U. I.S.U. doeswe have more freshmen not have a single NMW in theNational Merit winners entire freshman class.( NMW ) than any otherIndiana school. We feel that In addition to ranking firstthis is a very significant in Indiana, Rose ranks fifthachievement," stated Chuck Nationwide in EngineeringHoward, Dean of Admissions Schools, as well as 8that Rose-Hulman. nationally per capita with oneWith forty-one NMW this out of every eight students

year, Rose is ahead of such being a NMW.

Dr. Lewis and gal prom-enade during the facultysquare dance last week-end. Nick Jokay photo

PAGE 2 ROSE THORN FRIDAY, FEB. 3, 1984

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Coeducation

Letters to the EditorProfessor Schmidt and I have shared many conversations and with

all due respect, I would like to rebut his comments last week. To setthe record straight, I favor coeducation at Rose, but will try to keepmy thoughts towards Prof. Schmidt's comments.

I think I can speak for many students Ln saying that it is not ap-preciated in the least for a Professor to degrade and insult the RoseThorn or the SGA in comparing them to rebels, revolutionists andhouse-dogs trying "to establish a position in the course of history ofRose-Hulman." Let's be serious. Can anyone remember any SGA of-ficer or Thorn staff that has gone down in Rose history? I don't thinkyou can, and I don't believe the motivation for such has been dis-played in this situation.Prof. Schmidt also sets an air that the Thorn and SGA are continual-

ly coming up with petty issues such as this. I have viewed the Thorn asa well-edited publication — reports it as it is. The SGA moves at asnail's pace. So why is all this seeming hate directed to the electedrepresentatives of the student body who are (for once) exercisingtheir "important freedom of choice?"Commenting further on his views, I will define coeducation for all

those who do not know what is meant by Rose going "coed." Def. :"Coed shall mean that all human beings (no house-dogs please) shallbe considered for and admitted to Rose according to their individualmerit." No one said anything about having to have exactly 293 womennor anything about giving them full-ride tuition waivers. They can sw-ing their elbows with the rest of the entering class and if they can'tmeasure up to Rose's standards, then tough, they can pack their bags.Any dath that has been assembled on the issue IS relevant in my

opinion. A student who was against coed and I, as SGA Historian head-ed the last formal poll taken three years ago. Several questions wereasked W be answered on a numerical scale. Over 50% of the studertbody responded (SGA elections drew 30-35% last spring). Across theboard on all areas covered the students favored coeducation. (I willtry to have those results posted in Moench by the time you read this.)Two examples from this poll are:78 percent felt that social activities would be enhanced.66 percent felt that Rose should go coed (Freshmen wanted coed the

least of any class.)Another point to be made lies in Astin's findings referred to by Prof.

Schmidt. If Astin is correct in saying that ". . . successful .. . students(in the working field) should choose a small, private, secular,midwestern, unisex college," then all successful engineers wouldhave to have graduated from Rose since it is the only school that fitsAstin's description!Closing up, a very close friend of mine returned to interview this

year for TRW, Redondo Beach, CA. The head recruitment manager iscurrently female. Three Rose grads working there had to sit her downto convince her to just interview at Rose. She was adamently opposedto the idea of recruiting at a discriminating school. (Last year's topoffer, by the way, was well over $35,000, by TRW.) Thankfully, TRWdid interview last month.My own thoughts have been beautifully summed by by Dr. Pickett

and Dr. Hulbert last week. There are places where women do notbelong. Rose-Hulman is not one of them. Are their minds (andbodies) that inferior to ours? This issue has been the most controver-sial. Get out and vote your own feelings next week.

Sincerely,Chet Crow

I feel that Rose-Hulman should not go coed. Having girls on campusand in the classroom would be very destructive to the study environ-ment. Right now, we have a choice of whether or not we want to seegirls: if we do, we just go in town and — guess what! — hundreds ofthem. Then, when we want to study and get down to business, we justcome back here and are not distracted by pretty girls.For those of you who think it would be a good idea to go coed

because it would give you a chance to meet girls, I have twoquestions: Is that what you came to college for; (If so, you're at thewrong school.) Do you really think that having girls around wouldbenefit your love life? I highly doubt it. If a girl wants to become anengineer, she can go to some other fine engineering college, not Rose-Hulman. We are distinct and elite. We do not have to worry aboutcompeting with the hundreds of other colleges on a coed basis.

I've heard many students say, "I think that Rose going coed wouldhelp me become a well-rounded individual." I feel that if you, the stu-dent, want to become a well-rounded individual, you can do a little bitof girl-chasing; it's not going to hurt you — that's the way it's been foryears. If you, the Rose student, want to attend an engineering collegethat admits females, transfer to one that does.

— John G. RhoadesSophomore, Ch E

Daffynitions

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by John Rohlfing

This week•s column addres-ses the relavent issues oftoday. It doesn't try to solvethe problems. just addressthem:

air pollution — fume fatale.birth control — evasion of

the issue.capitat punishment — the

Income tax.disarmament — agreement

between nations to scuttle allweapons that are absolute.federal aid — a system of

making money taken from thepeople look like a gift whenhanded back.H-bomb — the invention to

end all inventions.

inflation — something thatcost $10 a few years ago andnow costs $15 to get it fixed.marijuana — grim reefer.pollution — what makes the

world go brown.population explosion — love

in bloom.prejudice — a device that

enables you to form opinionswithout getting the facts.race consciousness — pig-

ment of the imagination.recession — a time when we

have to do without a lot ofthings our great-grandparentsnever heard of.slum clearance — uphovel.urban renewal — edifice

wrecks.

I don't think Rose should gocoed. I believe that collegelife is made simpler at aunisex college. We areallowed more freedoms thanif we attended a coed school.We feel more comfortable ifwe oversleep and don'tshower before we go to class.and we can express ourselvesmore freely than if femaleswere present.

It is not like we are isola-ted from girls by hundreds ofmiles of desert. We can goover to ISU or St. Mary's.Anyone can find a wav overthere if they look for one.even if they don't have a car.they most surely knowsomeone who does.Therefore. I believe we

should carry on the traditionof our school.

— Brett SchumannFreshman, ME

Rose-Hulman should not gocoed. There is a uniqueacademic atmosphere foundat Rose-Hulman that is not tobe found anywhere else. I amreally enjoying my four yearsat Rose-Hulman. I do nothave an aversion to womenand have no doubt I will beworking with a few when Igraduate. I do not live in asocial vacuum because of alack of women on campus.Students that do lack socialgraces and live in a socialvacuum would probably havethis problem if they went toHarvard.

I have not personally foundthat people consider Rose-Hulman's all-male status aliability. Many local people doconsider Rose isolated anddistant, but I am notconvinced that this problem issolved by putting women oncampus. I have talked to afew students in engineeringand science programs atPurdue. Their main reasonfor attending Purdue was thatthey felt Purdue's size offeredthem a better education, notRose's all-male policy. I donot consider Rose-Hulman'smale population a liability,but an integral part of thisunique institution.

Drew KarnickJunior, EE

Rose's reputation, whileacademically sound, is some-what tarnished by the fact thatwe are all-male. Ire don't needth is.

Rose-Hulman should gocoed.

I can sum up the reason intwo words: REAL WORLD.Why do we think that being atan all-male school will makeus better engineers? Even ifit eliminates distractions inthe classroom, thosedistractions will appear aftergraduation. on the job. Theall-male atmosphere createsfalse images of what realworld engineering is like.

— Roher BerkowitzSenior. Ch E

The all-male atmospherecreates false images of whatreal-world engineering is like.

There is no reason for Roseto suffer from such a change( coeducation 1. MIT. Case-Western. and Renssalaer areall coed. Each one of theseschools is as good as Rose.The way it stands now.

Rose men subconsciouslyassociate women withweekends and parties. Weassociate men with classesand learning. This is bound tohurt us when we have to workwith female engineers.— John Rumberg Freshman.

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The more I think about this question, the more obvious t.he answerbecomes; of course Rose should go coed.

I feel that the advantages fully outweigh the disadvantages. I feelcoeducation would create a better study atmosphere, because I wouldenjoy studying more with someone of the female persuasion. Peoplewho think that more hanky-panky than studying would get done arenot being very realistic. Most of the smarter girls I know have abetter sense of priorities than me and know that there is a timefor study and a time for play.

Also, I think the competition would make the male population trythat much harder, either to impress female counterparts or to outdothem. Let's face it, guys, who wants to be beat by a girl?

I do agree that women may take away some job offers, and someadmissions from the borderline acceptances, but what makes you sosure that women aren't getting a lot of jobs that you're just asqualified for now. Just because its happening at Purdue doesn't meanits not happening. And eliminating some of the borderline admissionstudents can only make Rose-Hulman standards more selective.Now I guess people assume that women are dumber than men and

that to let women into the school would be lowering our standards. Onthe contrary, I know lots of women who are as smart if not smarterthan Rose-Hulman students.

Lastly, I have no facts to support this, but I feel Rose would have noproblem recruiting a sizeable number of quality women (some good-looking ones, too). I know of four women more qualified than me whowould have come here if Rose wasn't all male, and I am only one per-son in this huge country.In closing I'd like to say I realize that change is not easy. In fact it's

extremely hard, but I feel that most of the arguments against goingcoed are from conservative people who are afraid of change, even if itis for the better. Now my opinion is only one, and if you wish toexpress yours, the vote is February 6th.

— Jolin MesserschmidtFreshman, ME

. . . it really doesn't matter what the student bodythinks; the Board of Directors, the Board ofManagers, the Alumni and the Administration will dowhatever they want.

After asking several people about whether or not Rose should gocoed, I must agree with the majority and also say no. Rose-Hulman isnow the only all-male engineering school in the country. Personally, Iwould like for this to remain a part of Rose's reputation.A lot of people say that we do not mature socially without women.

The way I see it, if a guy wants to mature socially, he will do the besthe can.School reputation, character, student social life, women being

around constantly, and interviewers all are parts of the Rose coedissue. I guess if the Rose student is partial either way, he will vote inthe upcoming poll. If a good number turn out, and the results are one-sided, the destiny of coeducation at Rose-Hulman could be deter-mined

— Keith BloomerFreshman, EE

Wouldn't it be great to have lots of gorgeous girls on campus, guys?Think about it, a girl for every guy; girls in the classroom, girls whenyou went to lunch; girls during free time. Yes, it would be great. It'stoo bad going coed won't accomplish t.hat.I think that is what the guys that are for going coed are hoping for,

but it won't be like that. So you have to consider whether or not goingcoed is really going to improve the quality of the school. Will it im-prove? Why tamper with the quality we have now? The education wehave freely chosen is just that — an education.Going coed is not going to change the social life here at Rose that

much. If you want a social life, you can find it, it doesn't have to begiven to you in the form of changing a tradition that has existed forover 100 years. It seems if we go coed we'll be like every other schoolin the country (except, of course, the other two all-male schools).Why can't we keep things the way they are? The school is definitelynot hurting in any respect (jobs, quality, an interest in the school).

If so many guys are dissatisfied with the idea of no girls on campus,why does Rose have a record number of applicants this year? Also,I'll bet that the re_ason why Rose hasn't had 100% placement this yearis because those jobs have been taken by Purdue graduates, right,because they come from a coed school? — Ha!

— Ron NeumeyerSophomore, EE

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FRIDAY, FEB. 3, 1984 ROSE THORN PAGE 3

Rose drops twoby Bill Lorenz

Rose-Hulman's chances for

another College AthleticConference title fell short lastweek as they were defeated bvconference opponents Centre andFisk. The back-to-back defeatsgave the Engineer's their secondand third losses in the CAC tomatch three wins.The contest last Saturday

against Fisk at the ShookFieldhouse came down to thefinal buzzer. With 0:13 showingon the scoreboard it appeared asif Rose was going to win asButch Busard hit both ends of aone-and-one to give Rose a 80-79lead. However, the lead did notlast long as Fisk's Brian Keithpassed the ball to a wide openClifton Butts standing under theloop. Butts laid the ball in with 1second remaining to give FiskBulldogs a 81-80 win.The Engineers led at halftime

by a score of 43-41, but had toplay catch-up most of the secondhalf. The Bulldog's led by as

much as eight points in the finalstanza. as Rose's Keith Kemp,Rob Ewing. and Brad Kiess heldthe game within reach. The triocombined for 31 of Rose's 37points in the second half.The Engineers shot 52 percent

from the field and 70 percentfrom the free throw line:however. this was not enough tocounter Fisk's hot hand as theyhit on 72 percent of their fieldgoal attempts in the second half.

Kemp led all players with 10rebounds and rattled off 22 pointsto lead the Rose offense.

The Engineers also lost earlierthat week to conference leaderCentre by a score of 73-60. TheColonels won the game at thefree thrown line as they had 28more attempts than the visitingEngineers. Kemp led the squadwith 14 points, 10 rebounds. and 3blocked shots. Jeff Chandlermatched Kemp's 14 points whileEwing added nine points, fourassists. and four steals.

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Thorm Sports •Busard leads EngineersIt took Butch Busard a little

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well worth it.Busard. the team's starting

point guard. was cut from the

squad as a freshman and sawmost of his action on the school's"B" team as a sophomore. Hecontinued to work hard. though,and eventually became a starter

with the varsity."He came here at a time when

we had a lot of depth at guard."said head coach John Mutchner."He came out his first year and Ijust didn't need any moreguards. I decided to keep him hissophomore year and he just gotbetter and better. He became astarter by the end of the year and

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"I was a late developer," saidBusard, a senior from Lakeville."My weight finally caught upwith my height by my sophomoreyear and I became a lot stronger.It was just something I had toaccept."Now 6-1 and 175 pounds.

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ball inside and hit the openman," he said. "I don't need toscore 20 points a game. although

still take the outside jumperwhen I have it. I also try to playgood defense.The Engineers have missed

Busard's leadership lately sincehe has been slowed by an anklesprain. He saw brief actionagainst Southwestern atMemphis. but he did not play atall against Sewanee and OaklandCity. Rose-Hulman lost both ofthose latter contests.

"Obviously, he's a very impor-tant part of the team," saidMutchner. "He triggers both ouroffense and our defense. Andwhen he's not out there we don'tfunction as well."

Mutchner inserted Busard intothe lineup near the end of theSouthwestern game and he madethree key steals down the stretchto preserve the win. He alsoplayed a key role in theEngineers' victory overWittenberg last month when hehad a session-high seven thefts.

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Coed opinions ...(Coeducation) could show the "typical Rose guy"

that women are actually thinking human beings withintelligence, ideas and feelings — not merelyweekend bedwarmers.There are many factors that would favor coeducation at Rose-

Hulman. First and foremost, it could, perhaps, show the "typicalRose guy" that women are actually thinking human beings with in-telligence, ideas, and feelings — not merely weekend bedwarmers.

It is truly amazing that at (what we consider to be) one of the top-flight engineering schools, the men cannot, or will not, think ofwomen as anything by sexual objects. This narrow-minded, egocen-tric, bigoted thinking shows not only the dark side of the men of Rose-Hulman, but the social ignorance that non-coeducation brings.

If one asks a Rose student about coeducation, wholeheartedly mostsay that they want women on campus; but if one asks them why, mostwould respond ill one form or another, "to look at." Truly amazing!Ask any woman who goes out with a Rose guy or any ISU women

who have been to Rose, and they will say that Rose guys have a fat ofsocial maturing to do. This lack of social maturity can only hurt thejobseekers, who must remember not only that he is not the greatestthing since 7-Up hit the market, but also that women are executivesand must be treated with respect.Should Rose-Hulman become a coeducational institution, the

process of social maturation could occur without the loss of competi-tion or alumnae support. The University of Notre Dame serves as anexample of a newly successful coeducational institution.

In this light, it is obvious that coeducation is a strong, viable optionfor Rose-Hulman, but as I am afraid many of the people who annuallylaunch this issue have forgotten, it really doesn't matter what the stu-dent body thinks; the Board of Directors, the Board of Managers, theAlumni and the Administration will do whatever they want and,because of "tradition," Rose-Hulman will stay exclusively male.Face it.

— Roland RogersSenior, CM

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Dear Daphne

New column threatens AbbyToday. the THORN is

somewhat more thanapathetic about the debut of anew weekly ( we hope )column. Of course, thiscolumn is going to depend onreader contribution. so I giveit a lifespan of about threeweeks — after all. I can onlycoerce freshmen into tellingtheir problems for so long.So, beginning as soon as you

read this, send your problemsto "Dear Daphne." c/o THETHORN. Box 130. This is achallenge to all you apatheticRose guys to keep me inwork. All replies will beprinted and will be kept instrictest confidence: theywon't get past 30 of myclosest friends.

Dear Daphne:I am a freshman at Rose,

and am from southernIndiana. Lately I have beenhaving some strange thoughts— I have this weird longingfor the farm. and driving mydad's fourwheeler through themud. I never felt this wayback on the farm, when Idrove my dad's fourwheeler

through the mud. The guys onmy floor. mostly Ohioans.avoid me. I've heard someconversations where they callme "Hoosier." I've never hadthis happen before. Whatshould I do?

Signed.Lost in the Big City

Dear Daphne:I am the editor of a big-time

college weekly newspaper.My staff hates me, and I can'tread, edit or write( particularly humor 1. I keephearing phrases like "drawnand quartered" from myreporters and both of ourreaders. If this keeps up. I'llbegin to get the feeling thatpeople don't like me. I try todo my best — these peoplejust don't realize with what agreat mind they're dealing.So what if I sometimes amnot coherent? It sure is a niceday. I really enjoyedbreakfast last Tuesdayevening. Who am I. and whatshould we do?

Signed.Paranoid at the Big, Real,

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Yes. you are correct whenvou say you're paranoid. Ireally doubt that anyone is outto get you — right. Guido?Just in case. however, I wouldlock your door at night. and abulletproof vest is advised.Have vou also thought ofhiring a food taster? (Don'tworry. Guido — none of thesewill interfere with yourplans.)

As for no one liking vou. Idon't see why that shouldstart to bother vou now —they probably haven't likedvou since you became editor.I realize that the 'kicker isyour bad humor. and that youjust brought out the worst inyour staff. I have three lastpieces of advice: Don't try towrite humor — you're notfunny: if you'd rather nothave your spleen removedthrough your nostrils, don'tedit anything from this, andfinally. seek professionalhelp.

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