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After ‘Thursday Afternoon’ disquiet.com · by Richard Kadrey · December 4, 2005 An electronic musician (Monolake), an English professor (Michael Jarrett), and a science fiction writer (Richard Kadrey), all Brian Eno fans, walk into a chat room … This year, an electronic-music anniversary passed with little fanfare. Two decades after the release of Brian Eno’s album Thursday Afternoon, it was made newly available in a remastered edition. The occasion provided an opportunity for something I’d wanted to do for a while: host an online discussion on a specific topic, and then post a lightly edited transcript of the back’n’forth. I invited four people, one of whom ultimately wasn’t able to join in. Over the course of two weeks, three of them conversed with me: Robert Henke, the German musician better known as Monolake; Michael Jarrett, a professor of English at Penn State York, and author of several books, including Drifting on a Read: Jazz as a Model for Writing; and Richard Kadrey, the San Francisco-based author of such science fiction novels as Metrophage and Kamikaze L’Amour. I knew them all to be familiar with the subject, and to have creative imaginations. I’d interviewed Henke the year prior for e/i magazine (“The Organization Musician”), and I had assigned articles to both Jarrett and Kadrey while I was an editor at Pulse!, the music magazine once published by Tower Records. The subject, Thursday Afternoon, is a unique recording in Eno’s discography. An hour-long swath of amorphous, largely organic-sounding quietude, it arrived during an ebb in the popularity of ambient music. The year 1985 was well past the tail end of the proggy 1970s, when Eno’s experiments with the studio as a musical instrument first flourished, and close to a decade would pass before a new generation of musicians, raised in the wake of the personal computer, would revive electronic music. Still, the album looked ahead more than it looked back. It took full advantage of the then new medium of the compact disc, making use

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  • After Thursday Afternoon disquiet.com by Richard Kadrey December 4, 2005

    An electronic musician (Monolake), an English professor (Michael Jarrett),

    and a science fiction writer (Richard Kadrey), all Brian Eno fans, walk into a

    chat room

    This year, an electronic-music anniversary passed with little fanfare. Two

    decades after the release of Brian Enos album Thursday Afternoon, it was made

    newly available in a remastered edition. The occasion provided an opportunity

    for something Id wanted to do for a while: host an online discussion on a

    specific topic, and then post a lightly edited transcript of the backnforth. I

    invited four people, one of whom ultimately wasnt able to join in.

    Over the course of two weeks, three of them conversed with me: Robert

    Henke, the German musician better known as Monolake; Michael Jarrett, a

    professor of English at Penn State York, and author of several books,

    including Drifting on a Read: Jazz as a Model for Writing; and Richard

    Kadrey, the San Francisco-based author of such science fiction novels

    as Metrophage and Kamikaze LAmour.

    I knew them all to be familiar with the subject, and to have creative

    imaginations. Id interviewed Henke the year prior for e/i magazine (The

    Organization Musician), and I had assigned articles to both Jarrett and Kadrey

    while I was an editor at Pulse!, the music magazine once published by Tower

    Records.

    The subject, Thursday Afternoon, is a unique recording in Enos discography. An

    hour-long swath of amorphous, largely organic-sounding quietude, it arrived

    during an ebb in the popularity of ambient music. The year 1985 was well past

    the tail end of the proggy 1970s, when Enos experiments with the studio as a

    musical instrument first flourished, and close to a decade would pass before a

    new generation of musicians, raised in the wake of the personal computer, would

    revive electronic music. Still, the album looked ahead more than it looked back.

    It took full advantage of the then new medium of the compact disc, making use

    http://disquiet.com/2005/12/04/after-thursday-afternoon/

  • of sounds that would arguably have been swallowed up in the hiss and crackle of

    vinyl. Likewise, it played for longer than vinyl could have accommodated without

    requiring a flip of the LP, certainly at any comfortable level of audio fidelity. On

    the other hand, it was less an album than it was a document; it was the

    soundtrack to a piece of video art that Eno had released on VHS the year prior.

    (That footage was also released this year, on DVD.)

    As I warned Henke, Jarrett and Kadrey, Id never really done anything like this

    before, and accordingly any lapses in communication or cogency are entirely my

    fault. The trio had insights into what is, in fact, one of my favorite albums, and in

    the course of our discussion they helped me listen to it in new ways. I plan to do

    more of these in the future, having gotten one under my belt.

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: After Thursday Afternoon

    Message: 01/20 The clock has just passed midnight here in San Francisco, and

    Im turning on the email list for our discussion. Im excited to bring together

    three people (well, four, counting myself) who feel that the 20th anniversary of

    Brian Enos CD Thursday Afternoon is an occasion worth commemorating.

    Needless to say, we all have lives and work, next to which this discussion is at

    best a diversion. I dont want anyone involved to get the impression that hes

    signed up for a marathon. Im just hoping this list will be, for a brief time, a place

    youll check in to take a look at what has been submitted in your absence an

    anecdote, a theory, an appreciation, a query and to reply to that which most

    attracts your imagination. By simply replying to this email, or to any that

    follows, your message will be distributed to all the participants. Gathered here

    (virtually speaking) are musician Robert Henke, professor Michael Jarrett, and

    science-fiction novelist Richard Kadrey. Ill moderate by participating as well.

    Ill begin with two thoughts: one observation, and one personal experience.

    1. First, the observation. Unlike most albums released at that time,Thursday

    Afternoon was not made available simultaneously on several formats. It

    was not available as a vinyl LP, nor as a tape cassette. The continuous,

    hour-long soundtrack to a video artwork (available a year earlier on

  • VHS), Thursday Afternoon was recorded with the CD, then a new

    technology, in mind. Between its quietude and its length, it could not have

    existed in any previously commercial recording format.

    2. Now, the personal experience: Thursday Afternoon was the very first CD I

    ever purchased. I owned tons of LPs by 1985, when I was a sophomore in

    college, and I had accumulated quite a few tape cassettes as well. Its hard

    to describe how new and special the CD was when it first became available,

    how odd it was to possess one of these circular mirrors held in its little

    plastic box. I didnt even own a CD player at the time. I had to take my new

    purchase down the hall in my dorm to the room of a classmate whod

    recently purchased a CD player for his stereo. I recall a small stack of CDs

    in his room, some Dire Straits and some Police. He went about his

    homework while I popped in the Eno CD and started listening on big,

    warm headphones. Everything about the experience was so new: the

    music, which appeared, on first listen, to be nearly silent, and the medium,

    which enhanced that quietude by eliminating the tacit surface noise of LPs

    and tape. I didnt really know what I was getting myself into that

    afternoon. The CD wasnt divided into individual tracks, so I just had to

    begin at the beginning, and make my way through. I listened that day, and

    used other friends players to listen to it again, and again, until I finally

    bought my own machine the following summer; slowly I made sense of

    what I thought Eno was up to. Twenty years have passed, and I guess Ive

    never really stopped listening to Thursday Afternoon.

    Best,

    Marc

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: When Confronting Message:

    02/20 Marc, Robert, Richard,

    In certain situations I have a tendency to hang back. Particularly in electronic

    space, I tend to lurk. For example, I routinely fail to send thank-you notes to my

    friends. I wait and wait for the perfect words; they are glimpsed, dimly, on some

  • distant horizon. Instead of scribbling a short note, I imagine a time, always

    imminent, that never actually arrives - a time that will grant me the clarity to

    express myself fully, definitively. Wanting to say just the right thing, I fail to say

    anything.

    I make this admission for two reasons. First, because I am not going to let my

    tendencies win out in this discussion. And second, because my admission sets up

    an understanding of Thursday Afternoon.

    In the mid-80s, the compact disc emerges as medium of choice (the technology

    that imposes itself as de rigueur). In an analogous situation - the advent of the

    long-playing record - what did the Beatles, what did the Beach Boys do? They

    labored to create the grand expression: that statement so complete, so perfect, so

    full, that it would realize in one blinding flash everything the medium could

    possibly be. The Beatles made Sgt. Peppers, and if that LP did not deplete their

    artistic resources, it certainly left them nowhere to go. Hell, that chord on A Day

    in the Life left them nowhere to go (though if the Beatles had worked with it and

    it alone, they might have made something akin to Thursday Afternoon). For

    their part, the Beach Boys tried to make Smile, and it about killed them, pushing

    Brian Wilson into madness. Indulgence spread like a plague.

    Confronted with a new medium (the CD but also music television with its

    Eisensteinian editing), Eno took another route. (So far as I know, the making

    ofThursday Afternoon prompts no tales of Sturm und Drang.) The music is

    tentative. It is no grand statement exemplifying (and, thereby, exhausting) all

    the possibilities of a medium. Long by pop standards, Thursday Afternoon is not

    Mahler or Wagner not by a long shot. It is a small gesture writ large

    (calligraphy on a banner?). It seems almost offhand. Theres no attempt to erect

    a monument to an emerging technology. (The music, therefore, is not phallic; it

    is a matrix: womblike.) In a word, Thursday Afternoon is simple. Instead of

    waiting around, hanging back, trying to comprehend (to grasp it all) and, then,

    to express the potential of a new medium in a definitive work, Eno composed a

    note worth celebrating.

    Best,

  • Mike

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: When Confronting Message:

    03/20 In afterthursday@, Michael Jarrett wrote:

    > In an analogous situation - the advent of the > long-playing record - what did

    the Beatles, > what did the Beach Boys do?

    Its an interesting comparison, Mike, and I agree. Its true that so many of the

    outings that sought to celebrate a specific recording medium ended up with

    some attendant, if not inherent, richness that veered toward the garish. Thats

    probably why concept albums got such a bad rap for so long.

    Eno definitely succeeded with Thursday Afternoon in drawing attention to the

    powers of the CD without drawing self-conscious attention to what he was up to.

    Limited liner notes; a particularly non-representational cover, even by Tom

    Phillips standards; that mysterious image of what appears to be the score,

    such as it is thats all we, the listeners, have to go by, beyond the music, which

    itself sets a new standard of understatement.

    Of course, you could say that the quietude that is Thursday Afternoons defining

    characteristic is simply the flipside, the mirror, of the kind of envelope-pushing

    that most musicians pursue in their medium-specific endeavors. Eno recognized

    that one of the CDs gifts was its dynamic range but rather than go wide and

    deep and loud, he headed in the other direction. He took the tabula rasa of

    digital playback, and added to it without forsaking its defining clarity and

    pureness.

    > Long by pop standards, Thursday Afternoon > is not Mahler or Wagner

    I would say, though, that this Eno album does have one thing in common with

    Mahler, specifically with the opening of his First Symphony, how those held

    strings eke out as much ambience as they possibly can before the requisite

    rhythmic material arrives and breaks the spell. Thursday Afternoon is those

  • opening 20 seconds or so, sustained for an hour, with the sounds of the world

    seeping in.

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: Re: When Confronting Message:

    04/20 In afterthursday@, Marc Weidenbaum wrote:

    > He took the tabula rasa of digital playback, > and added to it without forsaking

    its > defining clarity and pureness.

    Good point and one Id like to develop a bit later, once Ive collected my

    thoughts. May be nothing more than fancy, but Ive thought that the sound

    ofThursday Afternoon is the sound of CD transduction (though that sound is

    pure sonic metaphor, since the CD represents the elimination of transduction

    noise). My idea is that the sound banished or purged always returns (but like the

    repressed) as a metaphor.

    > Thursday Afternoon is those opening 20 seconds > or so, sustained for an

    hour, with the sounds of > the world seeping in.

    To sustain decay: pretty great idea.

    Best, Mike

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: another strategy Message:

    05/20 Looking back at material Ive written about Eno and his music, I ran

    across this thumbnail:

    THURSDAY AFTERNOON (EG). How to keep the attention of listeners for the

    duration of a full-length CD? Enos solution: make music so unobtrusive that it

    renders the problem irrelevant. The single piece on this 61-minute disc is

    scintillating in a slow-motion sort of way.

    Im beginning to ponder other problems other binary oppositions that have

    conventionally structured popular music that this recording confounds or

    displaces. And Im beginning to think about music that renders long-held

    musical problems irrelevant. Oblique Strategy for today: When stymied by a

  • problem you cant solve, throw a monkey wrench, a spanner, into the works.

    Create something that renders pressing problems obsolete (because it poses new,

    more interesting problems).

    Take an old problem: How many angels can fit on the head of a pin? In the late

    Middle Ages (give or take a few hundred years) this question seemed a matter

    worthy of speculation and conjecture. Hard to imagine, but it once felt relevant.

    The question presumably sparked the imaginations of Europes greatest

    thinkers. It didnt go away, however, when a satisfactory answer was finally

    posed: St Thomas forever settled the matter of pins and angels when he

    ventured (pi)r (with r being the radius of the pin) as the most likely and

    reasonable solution. But rather, the question vanished into history when it was

    supplanted by questions perceived as more interesting and relevant.

    Maybe, its not about being the only band that matters (about getting it right),

    but about being the band that incidentally makes other bands not matter.

    Best,

    Mike

    From: Robert Henke Subject: about time Message:

    06/20 The Thursday Afternoon CD contains one track, one single ID at the

    beginning. Even this marker is questionable since there is no real start and there

    is no real end. At some point the music fades in and one hour later it fades out.

    The fade is a rather radical concept, unparalleled in music created with acoustic

    instruments. A longer fade over a whole piece is a potential indicator of infinity.

    The fade symbolizes that there is no end, there is no beginning. The duration

    of Thursday Afternoon is not one hour, it is eternal, and this makes it special.

    The concept of ambient music is avoiding drama, avoiding musical process. Erik

    Satie coined the term of musique dameublement, music as furniture, but it

    needed the invention of electricity to finally realize it. The chord in the

    background ofThursday Afternoon is not changing. It has been set up at some

    point. I would assume that what we hear on the CD is just an excerpt of

    something that had been set up at Brian Enos studio for a long time. He created

  • a sonic sculpture, and once it was done he made a picture: the final product. If I

    remember correctly, he referred to this process as I print it on tape. The way

    such a sonic sculpture is realized is quite different from the way one would

    compose drama. The endless repetition creates a mood in which both the

    composer and the listener, later, dive in, are surrounded with, live with. The

    most striking change happens when the music stops, another indicator for its

    potential eternal duration. Being unobtrusive is an important factor, both for the

    composer and for the listener. In order to stand such music during the period of

    its creation it needs to be unobtrusive. You would at some point simply turn it off

    before it is finished if it would be annoying in any way. The process of creating is

    evolutionary, has once again to do with sculpturing. Not much happens all the

    time, but what happens needs to be placed carefully in time, which is equivalent

    to space, and needs to be sculptured. The background color, texture, volume,

    diffusion, the piano notes, the lush washes which show up occasionally; they are

    the building elements of that sculpture and listening to them is like touching it.

    Every shape has to feel good finally. A rough part would need to be polished, too

    much detail would diminish the impact of the whole work.

    more to come, I need to go to work now ;-)

    Robert

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: When Confronting Message:

    07/20 In afterthursday@, Michael Jarrett wrote:

    > May be nothing more than fancy, but Ive thought that the sound >

    of Thursday Afternoon is the sound of CD transduction (though > that sound is

    pure sonic metaphor since the CD represents the > elimination of transduction

    noise).

    Definitely something that sits with me. Perhaps because of when it arrived, it has

    been sort of like a base line of CD ambience in my imagination, to the extent to

    which it is, in my mind, the sound of the CD. This is overstating things, of

    course, because there is so much going on in the music in fact, each time I

    listen to Thursday Afternoon, it sounds louder than the previous listen.

  • From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: about time Message 08/20

    In afterthursday@, Robert Henke wrote:

    > In order to stand such music during the period of its > creation it needs to be

    unobtrusive. You would at some > point simply turn it off before it is finished if

    > it would be annoying in any way.

    This really sticks with me, in part because I simply hadnt thought about it before

    that is, anything as immersive as a 60-minute piece like this would be

    draining to the composer after a while if it werent inherently pleasurable. But

    also because, as Id hoped, Robert, that youd provide some insight from your

    own work as a musician, as you have here.

    I often think about ambient music requiring a different kind of listening, but the

    opposite is true as well, that it requires a different kind of composing. Not simply

    different in terms of the skills and impulses and technology required on the part

    of the music-maker, but also the means by which the composer tests the work

    throughout its creation.

    I like, now, thinking of Thursday Afternoon as, in your words, a sculpture, and

    by extension as a kind of architecture a sonic space that Eno built, spent time

    in, came to approve of, and then felt was worth sharing with the world.

    Marc

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: another strategy Message:

    09/20 In afterthursday@, Michael Jarrett wrote:

    > And Im beginning to think about music that renders > long-held musical

    problems irrelevant. Oblique > Strategy for today: When stymied by a problem

    you > cant solve, throw a monkey wrench, a spanner, into > the works. Create

    something that renders pressing > problems obsolete (because it poses new,

    more > interesting problems).

  • Let me know if my habit of responding to particular parts of posts is

    troublesome. It helps me to whittle something to its core, and then go on from

    there. I had just made note today of a review in the New York Times of an

    electronic music concert held this past Friday at the Japan Society a show of

    Japanese musicians that also included the composer Carl Stone, who splits his

    time between the U.S. and Japan.

    The newspaper sent one of its classical/opera critics to a show of laptop music. I

    wasnt certain if this was a nod to the compositional roots of avant-garde

    electronic music, or just a curious excursion on the part of the critic, or an act of

    an editor assigning against type. In any case, the result was not surprising, and

    it encompassed the paradigm shift, or generation gap, that Mike described.

    This is the close of the review: Whether loud or soft, noisy or soothing, an onkyo

    improvisation is more like a sound environment than a musical composition.

    You cant complain when a sound environment runs on or seems aimless. Such

    concerns are not the point.

    Im not sure if this is a criticism, but it sounds at best like a backhanded

    compliment.

    Marc

    From: Robert Henke Subject: several degrees of attention Message:

    10/20 In afterthursday@, Marc Weidenbaum wrote:

    > You cant complain when a sound environment > runs on or seems aimless.

    Such concerns are not > the point. Im not sure if this is a criticism, but it >

    sounds at best like a backhanded compliment.

    It seems to be the typical case where the expectation of the listener has not been

    met. A situation I also sometimes experience, since my work spans a range from

    more textural sound art to pretty much dance-floor-compatible music. Music, as

    all art, cannot be reviewed without context. There is always some functional

    aspect in it, and it has been composed with a specific emotion and for a specific

  • context. Even avoiding context leads to context. Enos work is intended to fill a

    space, and has much to do with the intentional absence of drama, which makes it

    suspect for the classical-trained critic. Interesting enough even in classical

    music there are parts that work the same way, creating a space without drama.

    The big difference is that the function of these parts in classical music is to

    provide contrast to the rest of the work. In ambient music, there is nothing but

    that space. Obviously in both cases it is not essential to pay full attention. The

    critic fails since he assumes he has to find drama instead of letting go. No

    wonder that this kind of musical thinking is way more compatible with

    Buddhism then with our western culture.

    I my own experience I am always surprised how much context defines my

    appreciation for music. At home I often more enjoy complexity and richness in

    detail. If I go dancing I need much fewer elements and I am in particular

    disturbed by the wrong element at the wrong place. I explicitly mention dance

    music, and especially the genre of more minimalistic techno, since I do not see

    much of a difference in the way both genres, minimal techno and ambient, deal

    with drama. It is all about creating a state of emotion and keeping it for as long

    as possible. While the classic song is about changing the emotion from track to

    track and therefore is much closer to symphonic music. In both genres it is often

    more important to avoid the wrong note than to add more notes. An experience

    that from time to time drives me nuts, when playing new Monolake tracks for the

    first time in a club and realizing i did, once again, way to much and therefore

    missed the point. Thanx to modern technology I am afterwards able to get rid of

    the problem.

    And then I figure out that stripping a track down to the essence does not at all

    make it more boring, just the opposite. The fewer elements, the more you pay

    attention to detail. And at this point we are back to Thursday Afternoon. The

    sculptural quality of the work lies in the way its details are made. Eno is a master

    of the creation of lush mellow atmospheres and his taste and sense of time and

    space is what made Thursday Afternoon a great record. It could have been a very

    boring CD. Just imagine a cover version of it with different sounds

    Robert

  • From: Richard Kadrey Subject: Re: another strategy Message:

    11/20 In afterthursday@, Marc Weidenbaum wrote:

    > that it requires a different kind of composing.

    Marcs note about ambient music requiring a different type of composing and

    listening made me think of Andy Goldsworthys sculptures, where the materials

    hes working with on any individual piece dictate both its shape and duration.

    You have to come to Goldsworthys work with the understanding that its

    probably going to be temporary. You can approach a lot of ambient music,

    certainly Thursday Afternoon, with the idea that any individual work might be

    endless.

    Before this project, I hadnt listened to Thursday Afternoon in years (Id been

    mostly listening to Enos more recent work such as Lightness, Nile, etc.).

    HearingTA again brought back a lot of memories of listening to it for the first

    time. I remember wondering if it was, at least in part, a kind of musical joke. For

    a long time I was sure that Eno had simply taken an unknown Harold Budd

    recording, removed half the tracks, slowed it down to half speed and used pitch-

    correcting software (or one of those little pitch boxes, since the software

    probably didnt exist back when TA was recorded) to bring the frequencies back

    up again. I seemed like the kind of elaborate joke he might pull, but mostly I

    think I was just trying to put the piece into some category that I could

    understand. TA went so much deeper into the idea of eternalness of sound that

    his other ambient recordings at the time.

    Hearing TA with relatively fresh ears brings up a lot of thoughts to me. The

    timing and meter is odd. Notes blend into one another and then crash into each

    other as if one or more just fell from the sky. To my present day ear TA sounds

    like it could be an improvised duet where the players have agreed on a key and

    nothing else. The slowest and most sonorous free jazz recording in history.

    I can also hear TA as a new kind of court music, slow and stately, gentle, but not

    fragile. Even in this context it feels like a duet, but an unintentional one. We can

    imagine ourselves as kids in a royal palace, hiding behind a tapestry in a wing

  • were not supposed to enter. There are musicians playing at either end of a long

    corridor. In fact, they might even be playing the same piece, but theyve started

    at different times, perhaps at different points in the composition so their playing,

    while melodically complimentary, never quite synchs up. What we hear in our

    hiding place are the echoes of their playing. A kind John Cage chance approach

    applied to court music.

    I also wonder about the CD itself. It implies mysteries and a kind of suspended

    tension. Thats inherent in the music, but could some of it exist because what

    were experiencing with the CD is an incomplete work of art? If the music was

    intended to accompany a video, then were not getting the full work, just a

    portion, like an exquisite black and white rendering of the Mona Lisa. I dont

    pretend that the video will reveal any answers to the nature of the piece, but it

    will definitely shift its meaning to imply different mysteries and alternate

    tensions (though time suspension is the one element that seems essential to any

    version ofTA).

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: several degrees of attention

    Message: 12/20 In afterthursday@, Robert Henke wrote:

    > It seems to be the typical case where > the expectation of the listener has not >

    been met.

    Indeed, I think the writer of that review was both aware of the different listening

    strategy required, but also dismissive of the difference. What fascinates me in

    particular about that cultural divide is that much of the shopworn critical

    descriptive terminology employed in reviews of classical music often applies

    much more effectively to ambient music issues of epiphanies, transcendence,

    timelessness. Of course, those are generally lazy terms in either context, but

    theyre much more factually accurate in ambient music than in, say, Strauss, or

    Beethoven, or even Debussy.

  • Deeply ambient music like Thursday Afternoon reminds me of how I listen to

    improvised music. The first time around, especially in a live setting, the result of

    live improvisation has a formlessness to it, because its unclear where its going.

    But when you revisit it, you cant help impose some sort of narrative onto it, or

    into it well, you can try not to, and thats a receptive state one might aspire to,

    but I think there generally is some sort of internal logic, something map-able,

    about the decisions the musicians made as the piece went along. So, when

    revisiting a recorded improvisation, you know whats coming up, and that makes

    the earlier sections seem more like premonitions, instead of something entirely

    other from what follows. This might have simply to do with the fact that much

    ambient music is built from a set of samples, and one hears those raw materials

    in different settings over the course of the work. It might have something to do

    with the fact that decisions having been made on the part of the musicians,

    consciously or not, theyre decisions the listener can investigate after the fact.

    But I suppose what Im getting at, is that having listened to Thursday

    Afternoonhundreds of times, I think of it as having a structure, albeit one that

    defines itself over time in ways quite differently from the forms of music that

    preceded ambient music. First of all, it is incredibly slow, and thus can appear

    utterly formless during the act of listening. Second of all, and this is a more

    recent realization on my part: it can take months if not decades to really begin to

    grasp it fully.

    > Just imagine a cover version of it with different sounds.

    Have you heard the cover versions of Music for Airports, which the Bang on a

    Can ensemble in New York released? They managed to map, notate and then

    reproduce much of the album. Different composers tackled the challenge, and

    they all handled it differently.

    Marc

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: Re: another strategy Message:

    13/20 In afterthursday@, Richard Kadrey wrote:

  • > Before this project, I hadnt listened to Thursday > Afternoon in years

    Can you recall the circumstance of the first time you heard the record actually,

    this is a question Id like to pose to everyone. Can you describe the initial context

    in which you heard the record (when it was first released, or when someone

    introduced it to you later on)? Can you describe what your initial response was,

    along the lines of Richards initial suspicions?

    > To my present day ear TA sounds like > it could be an improvised duet where

    the > players have agreed on a key and nothing else.

    I had this suggestion of yours in mind when I made my last post, a few minutes

    ago, about the way that TA reminds me of improvised music, jazz or otherwise.

    This is true, as well, that for all its quietude, given the contrasting elements it

    contains, how they come up against each other out of time, TA is arguably

    anything but patient or inactive. It may be glacial, but that doesnt mean it isnt

    in its own way abrasive, tactile and present.

    > I can also hear TA as a new kind of court music, slow > and stately, gentle, but

    not fragile.

    Definitely. Eno speaks a lot about the commonality between ambient music (to

    Roberts point, this applies to music in general that is, give the functional

    aspect of all music) and perfume, both serving as a context in which actions

    occur, things that can coax along a certain environment, a certain aura or feel for

    the space they infiltrate.

    Marc

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: more questions Message:

    14/20 Two more Im thinking about: Can you recall the responses of people you

    introduced to Thursday Afternoon and can you summarize their responses to

    the music, and how you described the album to them. Have you had a

    opportunity to hear the remastered version of the CD, which came out a few

    weeks ago, and can you hear differences between it and the original CD?

  • Marc

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: answers Message: 15/20 I was over at a

    magazine editors house. What have you gotten recently? I asked him. I cant

    remember what he showed me, but Thursday Afternoon the video was one

    item. I borrowed it, and read the press kit (I guess) or some accompanying

    materials. I bought Enos theory hook, line and sinker. (Still do.) The fast-cut

    montage style of MTV created homogeny at the level of structure, and led music

    video to something of an impasse. Why not video paintings, then?

    Viewing the video was a disappointment, though I like it better now than I did

    back then. (Bought a used copy about five years ago.) First off, I considered

    Enos decision to employ a vertical format (and his suggestion that I turn my

    monitor on its side) as silly to a fault. It failed to accommodate my everyday

    reality: the way people really use monitors. Was Eno serious about providing an

    alternative to music television, about rethinking video in homes? Or had he

    merely figured out how to sell an art installation for home use? I dismissed the

    video as interesting on paper but in practice about as engaging as a bowl of wax

    fruit. Kaleidoscopic images of a model? Ho hum.

    I loved the music, though. And I bought the CD soon after seeing the video. (Id

    previously bartered with the magazine editor, trading record reviews for my first

    compact-disc player.) I didnt do a lot of evangelizing because, at the time, I was

    traveling with Eno converts. I recall that, at the time, I was listening a lot to The

    Pearl. While I didnt think hoax or possible hoax when I re-listened to Thursday

    Afternoon, I did think, Man, Id like to make something like this.

    One Saturday, I brought one of my kids bicycles into the house. On the spokes of

    the bikes wheels were hard-plastic snap-on beads called spokey dokies. When

    the wheel turned, the beads slid up and down the spokes, making delicate

    trinkling sounds (gamelan music on tiny bells). I made several recordings

    using a four-track reel-to-reel tape deck with different configurations of

    spokey dokies. Mostly, I recorded at a fast speed and played back slowly. I then

    bounced down these tracks to a cassette tape. Primitive stuff, but a fun

  • experiment. I really enjoy the work of art that makes me want to make artor to

    write.

    Best,

    Mike

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: amateurism Message: 16/20 I think a

    lot of my writing is motivated by a desire to introduce people to music that Ive

    found pleasurable. Below is a piece on Eno that I wrote for Pulse! Its for a

    general reader. So dont be insulted. It does, however, raise some issues that

    weve been discussing, but it broaches one we havent engaged all that fully:

    namely amateurism.

    BRIAN ENO Ambients highest-ranking amateur

    God may have created ambient sounds the rustle and murmur of the world

    cupping its hands around our ears. But in our own time, it was avant-garde

    composer John Cage (1912-1992), recalling the transcendentalist Henry David

    Thoreau, who recommended hearing ambience as music or, more democratically,

    hearing all sounds as sounds. Dont buy the idea? You have a hard time hearing the

    ubiquitous murmur of traffic as music? The quiet hum of that refrigerator

    compressor isnt your idea of sonorous? Cage didnt mind. Call the sounds of

    automobiles, airplanes, and photocopiers anything you want, but listen anyway. For

    it is in the listening not so much in the making that music is created.

    Like Cage, with whom hes often identified, Brian Eno is a conceptualist. With every

    finished musical work, theres a corresponding, compelling idea. And like Cage, Eno

    has paid particular attention to ambient sound. But there the similarities pretty

    much cease. Born in 1948, Eno grew up in Suffolk, England, close to two U.S. air

    bases. Records from the PX stores, purchased by his sister, introduced Eno to

    American music. All accounts reveal, he was especially captivated by their sonic

    textures, by the way records imply physical spaces.

  • Not long after graduating from Winchester Art School in 1969, Eno joined Roxy

    Music. On the bands first two albums, he played synthesizer. Which is accurate by

    half. Eno didnt approach the instrument from a pianistic orientation, but rather as

    a modernist painter. To him, synthesizers were electronic palettes; they could

    fabricate colors beyond the imaginations of their users. Eno maintained (still does)

    that he was not a musician. Hardly an insignificant claim, it defined an aesthetic

    absolutely crucial to the work he would accomplish after leaving Roxy Music:

    Vitality lies, not in professionalism, in the twin persona of composer and virtuoso,

    but in amateurism. The amateur is, above all, a lover (from the Latin, amator

    lover, devotee, enthusiastic pursuer of an objective).

    Eno left Roxy Music because hed lost enthusiasm. Or as he put it, [I]f you want to

    make a lot of money in rock music you have one good idea and then you do it again

    and again (quoted in Eric Tamms Brian Eno: His Music and the Vertical Color of

    Sound). Eno has had lots of ideas. As much as anyone in popular music, he has

    sought to explore - to make manifest possibilities latent in recording studios. Its

    a motivation evident in his career-defining productions for Talking Heads, David

    Bowie, Devo, U2, James and other bands. And its unmistakable in the ambient

    music he has been creating and inspiring for going on 30 years.

    An oxymoron, ambient music is Enos term for decorative sounds that teeter on

    the cusp between melody and texture. It develops French composer Erik Saties

    notion of a functional music that, instead of striving with ambient sounds, would

    furnish environments, making them more livable. Its ambitions are utopian.

    Ambient music is designed to be ignored or to sustain attention as listeners

    choose. More often than not, it establishes and maintains a single mood by

    initiating a series of musical events that seem self-generating. Typically, its simple

    in the way that a painting by Mark Rothko or prose by Raymond Carver is simple.

    Its likely to prompt listeners to think or even to say, I could do this! Which is, of

    course, the ultimate compliment one can give pop art.

    Best,

    Mike

  • From: Michael Jarrett Subject: boredom Message: 17/20 In

    afterthursday@, Robert Henke wrote:

    > And then I figure out that stripping a > track down to the essence does not > at

    all make it more boring, just the opposite. > The less elements, the more you pay

    > attention to detail.

    Robert also wrote: The critic fails since he assumes he has to find drama instead

    of letting go. No wonder that this kind of musical thinking is way more

    compatible with Buddhism then with our western culture.

    Roberts observations prompted me to recall an anecdote that Cage uses

    inSilence and Indeterminacy:

    In Zen they say: If something is boring after two minutes, try it for four. If still

    boring, try it for eight, sixteen, thirty-two, and so on. Eventually one discovers

    that its not boring at all but very interesting.

    Eno, on this and many other matters, has to my tastes realized what Cage was

    calling for.

    I find lots of moments in Thursday Afternoon arresting. (Its as if I anticipate the

    ambient equivalent of melodic hooks or recognize them when they pass:

    timbres rubbing against each other, tumbling.) But I most enjoy the five minutes

    or so toward the end of Thursday Afternoon. That enjoyment, I realize, is

    predicated on the 50-plus minutes that precede it. If as Richard so nicely points

    out, we can hear TA as the slowest and most sonorous free jazz recording in

    history, then its final minutes play like a break, focusing my attention to

    appreciate the wash of sonic color that concludes the piece.

    Mike

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: train refrain Message: 18/20 In

    afterthursday@, Marc Weidenbaum wrote:

  • > Indeed, I think the writer of that review was > both aware of the different

    listening strategy > required, but also dismissive of the difference.

    I ask myself, what trained me to hear Thursday Afternoon? I am being only a

    little bit facile and simplistic and reductive when I answer, trains. Trains

    trained me. They constructed a new kind of listener. Who told me so? The

    evidence is widespread. But youll recall that the first piece of musique concrete,

    by Pierre Schaeffer, Etude aux Chemins de Fer [Study of Trains] declares as

    much. As does Enos Chemin de Fer. I understand these pieces as artistic

    distillations snapshots (or holograms) of the railroad refrain. (Hey, and

    trains are one reason I knew Roberts work and liked Monolake long before the

    beginning of this discussion. Mood informed by momentum.)

    I realized a few years ago that, while I could in no way identify with literal

    trainspotters, my love for the sound of trains was pretty much boundless. All

    types. In any context. From any position (close up or distant; on or off). Trains

    are my favorite sonic sculpture (fade in/fade out). Theyre my idea of industrial

    gamelan music (a new kind of court music). Or rather, gamelan music as

    readymade (a la Duchamp or Lou Reeds, I want to be a machine). Trains

    pass behind my house, on average, a couple of times a day. Because I live in a

    city, the trains that I typically hear are moving slowly, picking up and delivering

    freight.

    Ive spent a good deal of time theorizing how trains invented modern ears

    (shaped our sonic or auditory consciousness). I wont hold forth on the topic,

    except to repeat a hypothesis: trains worked in a fashion that was the inverse of

    the symphony hall. In the great concert halls of Europe and North America,

    erected in the middle part of the 19th century, the bourgeoisie learned to sit

    down and shut up and listen attentively. They learned to focus. (The same with

    paintings, too.) At exactly the same time, the railroad fostered another kind of

    listening subject: decentered, distracted, dreamy (just the listener that Theodor

    Adorno would later deplore). Just as the train led travelers to see the world

    panoramically, it also forced people (whether on or off the railroad) to hear

    differently.

  • Onto the sound of the railroad, one cannot help but impose a narrative (as Marc

    reminded me). That sound speaks of the most basic narrative: leaving town or

    coming home. But as weve been noticing, the urge to tell stories to generate

    drama is sublimated in order to enhance atmosphere or mood. It seems to me

    that Eno whether directly or indirectly (consciously or not) has thoroughly

    learned the lesson of the railroad.

    Best,

    Mike

    From: Michael Jarrett Subject: context Message: 19/20

    My last pass through TA prompted me to recall Wallace Stevens poem

    Anecdote of the Jar.

    I placed a jar in Tennessee, And round it was, upon a hill. It made the slovenly

    wilderness Surround that hill.

    The wilderness rose up to it, And sprawled around, no longer wild. The jar was

    round upon the ground And tall and of a port in air.

    It took dominion every where. The jar was gray and bare. It did not give of bird or

    bush, Like nothing else in Tennessee.

    Play TA and the music can be heard as more or less fitting into (and filling) the

    space the context in which it is played. But as Stevens reminds me, TA also

    orders the environment. More profoundly, it shapes chaos into an environment,

    orders space into environment. (It might also suggest what space sounds like

    before it is ordered as environment.) My point is, environments do not

    necessarily exist prior to music. (The voice of God orders chaos, creating

    worlds.) To lift a phrase from Giles Deleuze, music has the power to

    reterritorialize, to reconfigure the spaces that it fills. Film scholars speak of

    diegetic and nondiegetic music. Diegetic music has its source (implied or

    revealed) in the films story space (its diegesis). Nondiegetic music supplements

  • the story space: e.g., strings underscoring a romantic encounter, creating mood;

    a bowed bass motif that says theres a shark lurking underwater. Anahid

    Kassabian, in her book on film music, argues that these terms are misleading;

    giving short shrift to sound. She points out that music is not added or applied

    to an already created diegesis. Imaginary spaces do not exist prior to music.

    Rather music is instrumental in constructing spaces, imaginary or real spaces.

    Would it be fair to say that the effect (and the function) of ambient music is less

    to fit into particular contexts, than to elicit (to make into instances) the very

    contexts into which it will fit?

    Best,

    Mike

    From: Marc Weidenbaum Subject: after after thursday' Message:

    20/20 Like the album itself, we faded in, and we fade out. Thanks, everyone, for

    having participated. This is the first time Ive tried to do one of these virtual

    discussions, and I hope to do more in the future. I appreciate your having been

    my guinea pigs, and for taking the time to share your enthusiasm for

    EnosThursday Afternoon CD, on the 20th anniversary of its release.

    Best,

    Marc

    Related links: Monolake/Robert Henkes website, monolake.de. Read Richard

    Kadreys 64-story Viper Wire series, for free (infinitematrix.net).

    disquiet.com by Richard Kadrey December 4, 2005

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