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rooj Aftab is sitting in the soft light flowing into her Brooklyn apartment. The city springs to life outside as she catches a moment alone. She spent last night surrounded by people – musicians and artists, both collaborators and friends – who had gathered to celebrate the launch of her debut album, Bird Under Water, which coincided neatly with the advent of her thirtieth birthday. Thirty. That mythical milestone that has long sent minds into self-reflective meltdown. But Arooj has no time for a crisis of conviction; she dealt with society’s plans for her life a long time ago. “Music isn’t considered an actual career in Pakistan,” she says, “as in, something you can study. It’s not considered smart, or worthy of one’s time, or an education. So when I left Lahore to study here at Berklee [College of Music in Boston], people were like, ‘Wait, what are you doing? Where are you going? You’re giving up your studiesEducation in Lahore, where Arooj grew up, is held on the highest pedestal. Maths and science rule supreme, and most of her school friends walked a tight, disciplined path towards being something reliable like an accountant. But Arooj got sidetracked early on, and veered oto places that looked more interesting. “I taught myself how to play guitar, because my parents were worried that if I had lessons I’d mess up my studies – which is exactly what happened. I botched my A-levels but almost on purpose, because I was like, ‘I’m kinda done here.’ It’s a scandalous, horrible thing, to fuck up – but I was super excited. It was so bad it was thrilling to me.” Arooj’s decision, to ostensibly “fuck up” and study sound, didn’t land with the same thud that it may otherwise have done in more conservative Pakistani homes. “My parents had a strong musical presence in our upbringing,” she says. “They would host musical evenings at the house, their friends were always singing and playing instruments. We grew up feeling our parents’ excitement to gather people together and share songs.” At home she was surrounded by a wild kaleidoscope of sound, the swirling Sufi rhythms she saw performed live mixing seamlessly with the family’s record collection, which spanned everything from The Doors and The Clash to Budgie (“They’re a Welsh rock band that no one seems to ever know, but everyone should”). At Berklee, Arooj paired that murmuration of influences with the skill set she needed to start composing scores for film. She moved to New York in 2011 and, picking up gigs as a sound and film editor at Vice and MTV, fell headlong into a creative community that pulled from all corners of the globe. “It’s one of the few cities in the world where so many cultures come together, and in a very honest way,” she says. “Broad collaboration is the food of experience.” In Brooklyn, Arooj became the centre point of her own cultural exchange: her album boasts a Greek accordion player, Spanish bass player, Japanese drummer and an Indian pianist, among seven or so similiar names. She also delved deeper into her own roots, studying South Asian literature and pre-partition genres like Khayal, Thumri and Kafi. Much like the Sufi nights that soundtracked her childhood, the layers swirled together as one. “My music is not traditional Sufi at all,” says Arooj of Bird Under Water’s soft undulating tones and trip-hop peaks. “My understanding of Sufism is the feeling of oneness. I want my music to feel familiar to someone who’s interested in acoustic folk, or deep house, or jazz.” Arooj’s music, the honest husk of her voice, is borderline trance-inducing. It’s gathered her a rapid and growing following, and she’s used that rising platform to champion Pakistan’s creative potential – even when she felt it wasn’t championing her. “It’s hard to make money anywhere as a musician,” says Arooj, who day- jobs as a sound and film editor at Condé Nast. “People don’t want to understand the complexity of your work because they don’t want to pay you. But it would have been even harder for me in Pakistan. Women face a lot of issues, and musicians face even more issues in terms of being respected for their work. We’re making this art, we’re making it for society, we’re the part of the culture that combines the old and the new – and people still don’t get it. It seems like they are reverting back to a very traditional, conservative vibe.” Power struggles in Pakistan, between religious militants and the state, made headlines in December, 2014, when the Taliban stormed a school in Peshawar and killed 132 children. Another victim of instability has been music and culture, with perpetrators coming from all angles. In 2007, nearly thirty music shops were bombed in north-west Pakistan after a Taliban council banned cassettes and CDs. Meanwhile, YouTube has been blocked by the government since 2008 for housing ‘non-Islamic objectionable videos’. It’s a situation Arooj has had to watch from afar. “I feel isolated when I think about the lack of mobilisation in Pakistan,” she says. “The youth have nothing that unifies them. They haven’t even figured out how to get together and get YouTube turned back on. Look at Turkey and the Gezi Park protests, or Catalonia where they just had a referendum. There’s organised activism, by the people for the people, happening in all these other places in the world, and so I feel disconnected when I think about the lack of unity in Pakistan. “But that’s not to say there isn’t exciting music coming out of there,” she adds. “Lahore is such a romantic, historical city. It’s always been my creative muse.” With her new album gaining traction, and an ever-expanding group of collaborators, Arooj is staying focused on the mission she set herself early on, when others thought she had veered wildly ocourse. “I came here at a time of learning and continued to learn,” she says. “I just continued to gain perspective on the path that I was already on. But the one thing that has solidified is knowing that I want to continue my work in the line of getting dierent cultures to understand each other.” So, what advice would she have for someone a little less brave, who’s feeling pressured to follow a linear path? “I would say there is no shame in anything, whatever it is you like,” says Arooj. “I had to go through it, feeling self-conscious that I wanted to be a musician. It’s hard, because you need a community, you need your family or your best friend to believe in you. So I would just say find your person, someone who believes in you. And if there’s something you like doing, whether it’s playing a sport or playing the flute, play it for them. Play it for yourself. You either have to be really good or believe in yourself so much that you make yourself good.” TEXT ANDREA KURLAND PHOTOGRAPHY DIANA MARKOSIAN A Pakistani musician Arooj Aftab had to ignore other people’s idea of success in order to go her own way. AROOJ AFTAB

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interview of arooj aftab by huckmagazine may 2015 issue

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  • rooj Aftab is sitting in the soft light flowing into her Brooklyn apartment. The city springs to life outside as she catches a moment alone. She spent last night surrounded by people

    musicians and artists, both collaborators and friends who had gathered to celebrate the launch of her debut album, Bird Under Water, which coincided neatly with the advent of her thirtieth birthday.

    Thirty. That mythical milestone that has long sent minds into self-reflective meltdown. But Arooj has no time for a crisis of conviction; she dealt with societys plans for her life a long time ago. Music isnt considered an actual career in Pakistan, she says, as in, something you can study. Its not considered smart, or worthy of ones time, or an education. So when I left Lahore to study here at Berklee [College of Music in Boston], people were like, Wait, what are you doing? Where are you going? Youre giving up your studies

    Education in Lahore, where Arooj grew up, is held on the highest pedestal. Maths and science rule supreme, and most of her school friends walked a tight, disciplined path towards being something reliable like an accountant. But Arooj got sidetracked early on, and veered o to places that looked more interesting. I taught myself how to play guitar, because my parents were worried that if I had lessons Id mess up my studies which is exactly what happened. I botched my A-levels but almost on purpose, because I was like, Im kinda done here. Its a scandalous, horrible thing, to fuck up but I was super excited. It was so bad it was thrilling to me.

    Aroojs decision, to ostensibly fuck up and study sound, didnt land with the same thud that it may otherwise have done in more conservative Pakistani homes. My parents had a strong musical presence in our upbringing, she says. They would host musical evenings at the house, their friends were always singing and playing instruments. We grew up feeling our parents excitement to gather people together and share songs. At home she was surrounded by a wild kaleidoscope of sound, the swirling Sufi rhythms she saw performed live mixing seamlessly with the familys record collection, which spanned

    everything from The Doors and The Clash to Budgie (Theyre a Welsh rock band that no one seems to ever know, but everyone should).

    At Berklee, Arooj paired that murmuration of influences with the skill set she needed to start composing scores for film. She moved to New York in 2011 and, picking up gigs as a sound and film editor at Vice and MTV, fell headlong into a creative community that pulled from all corners of the globe. Its one of the few cities in the world where so many cultures come together, and in a very honest way, she says. Broad collaboration is the food of experience.

    In Brooklyn, Arooj became the centre point of her own cultural exchange: her album boasts a Greek accordion player, Spanish bass player, Japanese drummer and an Indian pianist, among seven or so similiar names. She also delved deeper into her own roots, studying South Asian literature and pre-partition genres like Khayal, Thumri and Kafi. Much like the Sufi nights that soundtracked her childhood, the layers swirled together as one. My music is not traditional Sufi at all, says Arooj of Bird Under Waters soft undulating tones and trip-hop peaks. My understanding of Sufism is the feeling of oneness. I want my music to feel familiar to someone whos interested in acoustic folk, or deep house, or jazz.

    Aroojs music, the honest husk of her voice, is borderline trance-inducing. Its gathered her a rapid and growing following, and shes used that rising platform to champion Pakistans creative potential even when she felt it wasnt championing her. Its hard to make money anywhere as a musician, says Arooj, who day-jobs as a sound and film editor at Cond Nast. People dont want to understand the complexity of your work because they dont want to pay you. But it would have been even harder for me in Pakistan. Women face a lot of issues, and musicians face even more issues in terms of being respected for their work. Were making this art, were making it for society, were the part of the culture that combines the old and the new and people still dont get it. It seems like they are reverting back to a very traditional, conservative vibe.

    Power struggles in Pakistan, between religious militants and the state, made headlines in

    December, 2014, when the Taliban stormed a school in Peshawar and killed 132 children. Another victim of instability has been music and culture, with perpetrators coming from all angles. In 2007, nearly thirty music shops were bombed in north-west Pakistan after a Taliban council banned cassettes and CDs. Meanwhile, YouTube has been blocked by the government since 2008 for housing non-Islamic objectionable videos.

    Its a situation Arooj has had to watch from afar. I feel isolated when I think about the lack of mobilisation in Pakistan, she says. The youth have nothing that unifies them. They havent even figured out how to get together and get YouTube turned back on. Look at Turkey and the Gezi Park protests, or Catalonia where they just had a referendum. Theres organised activism, by the people for the people, happening in all these other places in the world, and so I feel disconnected when I think about the lack of unity in Pakistan.

    But thats not to say there isnt exciting music coming out of there, she adds. Lahore is such a romantic, historical city. Its always been my creative muse.

    With her new album gaining traction, and an ever-expanding group of collaborators, Arooj is staying focused on the mission she set herself early on, when others thought she had veered wildly o course. I came here at a time of learning and continued to learn, she says. I just continued to gain perspective on the path that I was already on. But the one thing that has solidified is knowing that I want to continue my work in the line of getting dierent cultures to understand each other.

    So, what advice would she have for someone a little less brave, whos feeling pressured to follow a linear path? I would say there is no shame in anything, whatever it is you like, says Arooj. I had to go through it, feeling self-conscious that I wanted to be a musician. Its hard, because you need a community, you need your family or your best friend to believe in you. So I would just say find your person, someone who believes in you. And if theres something you like doing, whether its playing a sport or playing the flute, play it for them. Play it for yourself. You either have to be really good or believe in yourself so much that you make yourself good.

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    Pa k i s t a n i m u s i c i a n A r o o j A f t a b had to ignore other p eoples idea of success in order to go her own way.

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