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EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE. MEETING : CANNON STREET HOTEL, Lo:rnoN, 91/t Febr nary, 1916. BRIGHTON COMPANY CHATHAM DISTRICT EAST LONDON GREAT EASTERN ,, METROPOLITAN SOUTH EASTER:S ,, PRESENT: iiun A u'11RA 1. TllE IIm1. Ta os . SEYMOUR BRAND. Mr. IN ALKER for SIR Wu.LIAM FORBES. ;\[r. I!AY:<E for S ir FRANCIS H. DENT. LAW, Esq. GmFl'lTB, EsQ. "' '!. >IILLWOOD, ESQ . Co1.. A. G. A. DrnAND, C.B., C.I.E. ;\fr. LACEY. PAHKER for Mr. H. W. THORNTON. The RT. HON. LORD ABERCONWAY. Th e !ION. EVELYN HUBBARD. :I.fr. R. lI. SELBIE. The Rr. UoN. LORD HoTHFlELD. w,1. XEwJJuRN, EsQ. :I.fr. for Sir FRANCIS H. DENT. IN ATTENDANCE: Mr. PARSONS, Seaetarp and Manage,.. The RT. HoN. LORD AnERCONWAY in the Chair. 3371. Minutes. TDK Mu..""UT&S of the Committee's )feeting of the 20th October lase, having been prinlled n.nd circulated, were declared correct 1 and were signed. 3372, Parliamentary. Messrs. BRISTOW::I RKPORTBD- That the County C'..ouncil (Tramways and Improvements) Act 1915 hnd rccei,·cd ihe Royal Assent,. and .cont&ws .a clause n.s n.pproved by ?\lr. Terapest. for the protection of the Cowmittoce"s rights in connection with the bndge carrying the Rotherhit.be New Hood over Ea.<:>t London H.ll.ilway. . That th?y had examined the list of Prh·o.t.e Dills of which not.ice hnd been gi,•en t0 Oe introduce<l into Pa.rhament durmg the ensuing Session and find none of them affects the East London Railway or the rights of the Joint Committee. 3373. Rent of Line due 1st April, 1916. RF.SOLVED-- That £15,000, the _hu.lf .>:"ea.r's rent, be paid t-0 the &-ist London Company on the 1st April next, ea.ch of the Lessee requested to contri bute £1,000 (One Thousa.ud Pounds) towo.rds such payment, and Wlthout preJud1ce to its share of responsibility under tho Le:LSc.

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Page 1: EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE. · EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE. MEETING: CANNON STREET HOTEL, Lo:rnoN, 91/t Febrnary, 1916. BRIGHTON COMP ANY CHATHAM ... TDK Mu..""UT&S

EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE.

MEETING :

CANNON STREET HOTEL, Lo:rnoN, 91/t Febrnary, 1916.

BRIGHTON COMP ANY

CHATHAM

DISTRICT

EAST LONDON

GREAT EASTERN ,,

METROPOLITAN

SOUTH EASTER:S ,,

PRESENT:

iiun A u'11RA 1. TllE IIm1. Taos. SEYMOUR BRAND.

Mr. IN ALKER for SIR Wu.LIAM FORBES.

;\[r. I!AY:<E for S ir FRANCIS H. DENT.

En~EST LAW, Esq. ~IunnAv GmFl'lTB, EsQ.

"''!. >IILLWOOD, ESQ. Co1.. A. G. A. DrnAND, C.B., C.I.E.

;\fr. LACEY.

~lr. PAHKER for Mr. H. W. THORNTON.

The RT. HON. LORD ABERCONWAY.

The !ION. EVELYN HUBBARD.

:I.fr. R. lI. SELBIE.

The Rr. UoN. LORD HoTHFlELD.

w,1. XEwJJuRN, EsQ.

:I.fr. lIAv~E for Sir FRANCIS H. DENT.

IN ATTENDANCE:

Mr. PARSONS, Seaetarp and Manage,..

The RT. HoN. LORD AnERCONWAY in the Chair.

3371. Minutes.

TDK Mu..""UT&S of the Committee's )feeting of the 20th October lase, having been prinlled n.nd circulated, were declared correct1 and were signed.

3372, Parliamentary.

Messrs. BR ISTOW::I RKPORTBD-

That the ~ndon County C'..ouncil (Tramways and Improvements) Act 1915 hnd rccei,·cd ihe Royal Assent,. and .cont&ws .a clause n.s n.pproved by ?\lr. Terapest. for the protection of the Cowmittoce"s rights in connection with the bndge carrying the Rotherhit.be New Hood over Ea.<:>t London H.ll.ilway.

. That th?y had examined the list of Prh·o.t.e Dills of which not.ice hnd been gi,•en t0 Oe introduce<l into Pa.rhament durmg the ensuing Session and find none of them affects the East London Railway or the rights of the Joint Committee.

3373. Rent of Line due 1st April, 1916.

RF.SOLVED--

That £15,000, the _hu.lf • .>:"ea.r's rent, be paid t-0 the &-ist London Company on the 1st April next, ea.ch of the Lessee ~ompantea .be1~g he~eby requested to contribute £1,000 (One Thousa.ud Pounds) towo.rds such payment, and Wlthout preJud1ce to its share of responsibility under tho Le:LSc.

Page 2: EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE. · EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITIEE. MEETING: CANNON STREET HOTEL, Lo:rnoN, 91/t Febrnary, 1916. BRIGHTON COMP ANY CHATHAM ... TDK Mu..""UT&S

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I 5 • f 2( • f 7

I 6 I 3, I 4,.

1,i 35,6 13,0l 5,6(

25,90 3,15:

2,735

625 I

' I-70 ....

3374. Electrification. Finance. (3356) .

H PORTED for .£2,}42 lGs. 3d., since last. report, mo.king chriqu1•" ffignfYJ to

~hn.t ,c~1ucs ba'\"e ibc••n signed date .£~6,193 I is. 41L .

1 bo turl's J\Jld 11urplus mit.t.crin.ls .£5,891 9s. 7<l.; net.t expenditure t.o

Amount~ n>cm·ered, prenuulll on ( e n . •

date .£ti0,302 is. !Id. . P lant Lighting of Stations, (3162; and Wapping Lifts

3375. Maintenance, p umping ' . . . . ". . . . ollowin!: rct·ommondt\tion rt: mamtt·nMlCC ~f L1f~'I l\t \\a.ppm~·.~ .

Svn~11-ru.D the f · . ·nr" ·-A, t}.~ 1-1n.nv• com11dcrn.t1ons apply the 1•.ngmoors named the . "Bl•forriug to~ :.\J~~1:11~~:~nc:," ~f the Lifts 1it \V!l.pping Khould be included in this o.rrangement.'~eiu

,, reconmwnd 1 lmt th•· rn ••

Ar·rnol'f.D. , ~ for half.year ending 31st December, 1915.

3376. Solicitors Charces,

~DB'1JTTED l\Iessrs. Bri!>tows'

Sundries Parliamentary Ra.ting

Hill of Costs for ho.If-year :­Aroount. £ •. d. 1 5 0 3 6 0

10 4

£ 13 15

0 £ which 11 Out of Pocket" ...

l{gsu1.\'ED-

'J'hnt tht:i nmount be pa.id.

Out uf Poi~ket. £ •. d.

5 15

£5 15 6

3377. Stepney Borough Council's Representations to the East London Co.

REPOR1'F:O-Tha.t, n.t the request of the Eo.~t Londun Co., the11e representa tionl'I

(1) Stations between :-\had w .. l ~ 1md \Vhit1~chu pel, (::!) Lift. accommodation at Shnclwdl , (3) Through running of District C.:o. 'e trains,

hnd lwtn rtfe1·red to the General )fona.ger!S frir their rf'marks, th:it rtplies had been rccei ved from a.U of them unanimously agreeing as to the untimelinf's-; 4,f 1 hese propo. a.b,- an<l making special remarks in t8a"&rd io them.

Rl>l:IOLVKD-

Thnt the Secr~t&ry reply oa behalf of tht:: Con::mitte~ , in the t:.ianner suggested by the Chairmnn.

3378. Meetings, 1916.

The following dates were fixed for the Committf"o':> metitin gl.'I in 1916 :­

April l flth 1

July l;Jth, 01,;tolx•r 11th, December 13th,

being WeUnesday:;, at 2.30 p.m.

The Chairman of the lo.st meeti11~ to c:i.ll n.n interim meet in!,!; if it jq considered cecessa.ry.

3379. Traffic Rec~ipts.

The Pr;ar~ fJ[ Committee's ParningtS are 01uitt~d o.s they have not been cleared.

3380. Bankers' Pass Books $uemTTY.o, with B:mkcrs' ~ta.tement, showing credit bt.ll\acei to da.t:e :-

Deposit Account . .£2.00Ct. Current £J, li'.\5 l ls. Gd.

3381. Cheques !::w:.-v.'> for£'> 410 Ile.) re}.IOrt.xl 4ignc'l ~i;\c~~ lei.st m~ting. ·Id. 5d., Cheques for .£15,:)4:1 8~. 3d. { W&ges, Rnte.s, Ga.s, Ma.int•naoce,

3382. Retu:

!Jo.

Snrr&y

lWthtrhi

Wapping

Shadwell

Whii.el.:

Shoreditc

Tot.ah,(

llo. (

To

!>o.

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3382. Return of Receipts a nd P asseng er s ·

SuinuTTF.D t! :o following stntcmcnni .-

C o ACfll:>O RECEIPTS FOE{ 0 0To u1m, 1915, l'l COMPA RISOl'f w1Tn O c TOBKn, 10 11 .

Ho. L.J:.:-0(.'., 3t;; I 0

f'i11rroy p,-<·~· 1·•1.i I'! 1

!s2 il 10

!I ·I I 15 l'i .'l

lJOOKl:i"GS TO

:..lt•tn•pol!tn:•I City l .!ue~ lln1lw1<y. E.tt:,:~~""···· -----

£ d. £ '· ,1, ms ' li GI " " 32S ' ' 6li I

:lli!l " 8 82 " " !'i(i till 3'.11:,

1:~.,;::~ I ~'." ._ "·. !.'. ~- 1.L .£ ~. d.

"lJ l!J JI 1'.I H 2

'.J 61 I G

8016 r; I I 7 ~,

:!l !I lj

W•1·1i"!{

!'ih"Jwdl

II; lS 6 1 \;, v :J ."1 It> 12 I 21 11 ~ '!I 11 :\

\\"Jutf"l.h:1j'f"I

::;b, reJitch

II~ 11 !I J 3 10 ~I I '.I ti J~ I~ 11 10 of I :l6 ;, "12 0

7 1310 lU

l' '> li 0 12 & 0 9 7 I ,:; '.l 4 lU l

T' t:ib, Od., l'J!.; . 1.,'.hO 11 .l I.·

II(>. (t t., J!JH ~.v::1 11 3" 11 _! II 0 :)1 \ lb ".! 174 J:; IJ J:H fj :~ I ;1J

•roT>.t. 1ui:ct:1 1··ra.

£•.ol.1£ •.• 1.1£0.d 7 8 11 1'!11 IJ !"i li~l 12 1

1! I 0

p; 11; 7 1,0:h 11

}:j ; Iii :.;:i!

J I J 2{17

J1j 11 10 fi."17 0 G 1·.111

0 ' l 11'.j ' 11 317 I

0 " , I 0 ' 135 '.J 5

U ; \J I

C0Acn1~ .. llECEIPTS Fon No,f:~m.n, 1'315, 1:.- c:OC1.1l'At:1::-o:-; w!TII ~on~'lR!:R, l'...11 I.

C:T.\ 10:.- .... , ~ t l.c.

£ " d. £ .. ='uwC"n "• ~.1::.1:. _:,;3 0 10

"" r .11.~.t 36' J> s ~lllll') IJocl..i Ill [1 10 ii I

l:vtLt1hitiw ISG ' 8 ·I (I

Wappin~ 156 18 10 I !::!

~hadwd\ 3!:12 7 ; I 8 12

\\'bit<!dmpel. 362 2 5 9 ' Shtorcdikh 193 13 0 3 • 1--

T<i1..;d~, :Ku,·., 191,j 2,36.j 8 10 lO 17

Jlo. ::\o,·., 1911 l,'. 174 0 ii \" IS

,1,

' 10

I

0

2

I 0 I

:.:: th En n

l!tt>h'I•:..

" •I.

12 ill :,

I 1;, 11

I Ii 3

7 0 11

17 0 0

I 10 0

8 6

25 '

1:ooi;:1:.-1;s Tl•

\!t"'

II'"" J

£ .. ·1:!7 ' :;:ii !:.!

:lt>9 1:,

i-;:, I ~i

·18 I"!

113 11

0 17

l ,2'.! 7 ;

'°' 18

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:!S " ' '- ;; I 2J 6 I ... ;4 > ii " 7 II

iii SJi I ;,.,. I' ,, !ti ' ],1J\:.!ll ;1;

" 30 ' ii :.!! J:, II II 12 I ;;s 1 ,, ~o -.: I

:.!S ' II " 17 I " I ;.!,l I \ .... -. 1 .. " 0 !!ti " " 3 17 ' !12!1 I, i ~I 17 3

" I 10 :ll'J:. 13 20 7 " " I 12 • f) 13 11 0 ' 10 I :110 ' 1n

-" 2:.-!S i:i 5 :.!II I:.! Ii lll4 ii 11 1,:t11 Id

10 (" 13 0 1~ ~l;j '" .l,43:1 ' '

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Co.A co1so Racs1PTS FOR DxcBMBKR, J915, I ~ COMPA.11180~ \\JTll llKCf;l!OER, 1914.

BOOKl~Gl:l Tl 'IOTAJ, ltECY.rPTs. -----

...... 1r.011Jo11 R1uhr"f•

flrii:hton Haliway.

-·-I

£ •. d., £ .. d Sew Cro~~. ~. F.,R. :.!70 i 2 . ···

Do. L.B.S.C. 3i8 10 8 ···

Surrey Docks

Rotherh ithe .

W1tppiug

Sh!!d.,..ell

Wbitcch1pel.

Sborcditcb.

469 10 G Hi Ii 10

f: :: ,: .: : ·: 383iill.?15

209 3 3 4 3

~ou1b t::1~t1·ri:

1l11iJ•;•Y·

£ 11. d.

13 6 3

110 II

I 6

9'

IS 9 0

~INmuo\itaU H:dlw•

£ 8, ti.

JHJ t)'

423 13 !O

:Hi 15 5

9G 7 5

56 s

jl 12 0

I 0

Ci1!~,t:1• I ,?,:;1t!.:;,t.1 J,~v·.~J..B;;. 11 Y~:~~1 ~ r1tte, .,",'.'""

t:u1·11a1 n~. T;-.uw .. y,

:. ,: ·: : ,: ,'.: ·: ! ,: : ,: I ~ :, :· 1.~, ,: J.

64 6 9 I 38 7 IS 180 };> 9 ii4 O 6 1,0:I{> H 2

99 8 6 9910 :.! I ii I;) 6 41 6 9,1,l.!l!O 11

H 6 6 32 1 fl t :.:a 11 12 f.i 3 <f2'.J 3 i I 2i 15 10 :.!i I 6 15 1 11 2 16 11 l9!1 15 11

o U o I 3 1

6 i 91 IG 11 ~ 612 3 •

•• O 2 :,14u H ;

f, 0 10 0 I li 22i 2 j I

12 10 • 113 3

Totals, Dec., 191.l 2,533 2 9 h4 IS 4 ;j 323 1~ 0 26:, 6 O .:b:.! 15 9 13;, 2 S .i,109

I -- ---1 I

Do. D~~., 1914 1:!,166 S 2 l 60 J,') 9 32 lU !t 998 0 2 211 i 0 66 19 4 ,199 i I 131 IS J

COACDIXO RECEIPTS FOR JAXUARY1 1916, IS COYPARTSOS WTTR JASUA.RY 1 1915.

Dffem~r 1:11 '

.£ •. J.

iJ.l JO 11

ibO B

898 19

3Hi X IQ

.:23 ~ 0

~84 8

35~ u

HH 16 6

BOOK I ~:Gs TO

Il!tri·t -~-.. -.-._-,-F.~~;:\· TOTAL RECt:ll'T:-i,

STATIO!iS. 1t:a.stLondon

Railway, January, Janury,

MO. 191~ llail\\"ay. L. T .t ti. Rauhra;.-.

New Croes, S.E.R. 2:2 I~ ~· d. £ 8. d. ;. ~· 7£1 l's 11. f1 ~ ~· [~ l~ d. ~ I~ ~· £ 1. d. 911 s 6

Do. L.B.S.C. 390 Ii 2 I :9: : 8 61 0 rn :1 6 i·I 8 39 19 10 11,000 11 Surrey Dockll 46- 6 ' '1 14 12 10 12 11 5 3i.t G 1 !H 13 Ii 101 8

Rotherhithe • 199 9 0 4 1 2 I 16 ~ <) 6 10 G :$ 25 19 ·I 25 16 11

t.iS 9 IO 3ti 1,106 16 I

13 I <OG 0 10

Wappiug · 1 16i 4 4 l 19 5 I 1 9 ~ ::

1

~ 26 5 3 31 I~ 13 19 IO '.!IS I :.!!19 s 10

Siu.dwell · 4-13 3 ll 10 13 9 9 11 2 66 17 G 12 o 28 IS 4 6 O 4

Whitechapd. • 386 11 8 \ 16 li 6 ! 13 17 I

16 Ii 11 6!12 3

Shored.itch • . ~ 20t> H 8 2 IS 10 3 6 11 0 18 l 0 6 [1 0 HI

'rotai., Jan., 1916 °2 sn 19 9 i-,-, --\--- -------- ' \

0 6 t2 12 " 1,1u, 2 o :ao;; 2 9 ,203 a

ii[) li

I

0

0

I 2501911 ili I

Do. Jan., 1915 2,212 I 7 1-:;-- [ 1· -S i 2~ Ii Ii 9\.12 Ii 9

1230 U II 1!14 16 i1 IS!l 6 ::; ilO[>

I H610

0 21910

; .,1;,,,,,' li 11 ...

I

' 6

£ L J. iOS H II

ii21i

5031!'1 3

363 1 9

IiS :.!

I rom

,, " Hri~hton South ]'A!.u~rll 'lt:tropolitan Citv Lines Dis~trict Line . w . .i: r;, ;.i: '- r Great EMte:-n ..ini

I'M\ I.

n~turn Tir:k~ta u

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t"ml~ •. ...

1 lfJ

0 I

,,

,,

' l

,'J : 0 ~

> u110EH of Pa.ssengers booked to, from, a.nd over tho Ka.st Lo nrl on L inu for th«' m•Hl th" ,,r

.J uly, A ugust, September , October, N ovember and December, 19 15.

J uly, ~11t('U1 Non:!m lJt·CCUI

s,,

'f,1 ;ll\d OY("l' Au~ust, ll('r,

October, her, lot•r, \lt11itl1

from If)};",. l~ ! ;)

\910. l !l I :) . l<J\!'). l ~I} !'1 ·1 qtlll

J.011<ion Lin" Hfr:hwn I.inc :1,J:-1 1 :!,7·1 1 2.216 :.!,t).\:l \,~:~~ '..!.114 ll, I

,, ::5outh Ea..'ittrn l .illt.• :!,11:! ~\. l 3S '.?,51i:::l 1;;1:-: 1 .7~l:! I ~77 ll,

'l,·t!'opolitan 9l,8:-i7 91,liU ~ 86,Hll r1:~,:1 1 7 !1:~,3~:.! 101-1 \:!O 1f", ,:!l J

Cit\' Lin•·" 2f',5f.IU :.!7,9:H) 28,'1~7 :\:!/1U6 :\5,0\S :1~,!j;)~ l~I -· lli.;tril·t T.im· 13,:l\O 13,;")3t\ 12.031i 1:U161 \ 1,!\Ul ti,~!JO H3,'J:

\\ ,, I\.:& .L.T.& :-;_ 1:!,731 t:l,5:.lt l \ ,K:!b t:J,.\!J.I \:\,:i l l 1G.:1ul s) 1;1

c;r .. ·;lt !·:astern Li1H' X,ll\!I \),~\;-) fi,~:H 7,121 6,:t~'.l 1i,81J:\ I ;

p~·~::'~:~'i\!'l'!L F1'it Lon dun li,~os !i,088 5.~l!l2 li.O~U 6,012 G,411 :)i II,

l,7-IS :!,510 \,S\S 1,:)::rn 1,516 1,:->00 10,•,

~r:f'(lrolitJ1.11 ():~, ·IU:! 64,3i7 65,3l!t li:-i,731 GK,tii~I 7 'J .~•:~I '" :!l),O<JO :.!U.7:.!0 20,26:'1 :!.1,26:\ '.?1,57 I ·!•·.,o·l l'.ri

:;;:~r;;::;\ •.. , .,~,1;?is U,064 10,:\"'' l J,105 1:!,4\1 J:\, I. 4

' .1i,l • .\ 35,fil \ ;t),5!>6 I0.57'." 39,.l\ I 1 'lO'.

Grt~t fft"-lt'l'll I.me ;>,·101 7 .~HiO 6.6:15 /7\;") fj.~107 "

.. :10:1,0!Hi 307,IUO :!~16,051 ·~:! \,. ,;) i 3::6,:::10 .1 1.b

.; 1 7 , \)!I~ l 111/i:.!5 111,115 l 1,:--1; • 2-.. ... :n

irn Tick•·t~ in· w11i1l~L :-- T •I \S I 7 :!:!, l i)~) l~l.715 ;10,1;" ";ti(\,l'.l',1

\ ' ),.!.· :1,")',/J I fll,, u.

' " }''' d I 'l "' I

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EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMMITTEE .

. \ l EETl:\U:

C'A:-<~o:\ ~ll:U·.T lltlTEL, Lu:suo:-.', HJ/It April, HJ IG.

\'II \!'II \\l

1;1:1:.IT l·:.1:,;TEJ:X ..

\I Ell!I ll'ULl'f'.\X

'-Ul."111 L\,.,1 LltX .,

Hr.u~ .\11\111:.\L TllI: li!J\. T110~. ~EY'lrocr:. Btl..\XD.

'i1· F1t.\'.'l:<:1:-; JI. IJFYJ'.

1'.1:\~. r L.\W. E:-\1~.

\lu:1:\\ '; .1111r11, E-..(i.

\\'IL .\111.1.woon, E:-;Q.

' l'. L.\• LY .

.:'\lf"'~r~. P \l~\"\\TLL and P_\Hh.Elt for \l t'. 11. \\", TwmYrn,.

TIH• i:r. If)\. L<11:1> _\m:1:.co\WAY.

The llo\. E11.1.n Jfu:i:11:t>.

Jlr. H. ][. :-:1:1.t:tE.

The UT. l f11.\". J.onn I fvn1r1r:LD. :-;;,. l'i:\\crs II. ll1sr.

!:--; .\rn.;.;11.\\tE ·

~fr. P.\HS0'.\:0:.1 ... "if'r1'drll'!J rlJld J/r!llrt[!l'l" .

The H'r . J lo,;. I .oi:o l!0"111F1F1.ll i11 the Chair.

3383. '.>!inutes.

T1rn Jl1:-;i.:n:s of the Committee» )[l·c:Ling <•f the !)th Ft•bruary ln~t, ha\ing ix'<'n pr inted and circulnt1'"• w1:rc dt:ela.rcd correct, and w1.:rc si,;nod .

3384. R ent of Line d ue 1s t April , 1916. ,3373). RP.POUT!W-

Tliat in n<"cordnnce with ) l i1 ute 33 / J of 9th l'd1ru:try last, eadi of 1ho r.~:~S"<' Comranirs h!l. ' 'ins:r contriLutc<l 1:1,000, the n:nt due E iist LonJc.on Company, J.:J .},UUO, 11..ss tax, haJ b,·l'O i·aiJ tu du I... , ··~ t1u th1..· hit instan t .

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;-:n1 i1r1 n1 nu· 'ited .;\~c .. nnf and Hal lrn

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3386. Division of Responsibility under Lease , TTF.D tho followin:,: !-'t-.1:.>ment. :)f (l)nt·1but on<> oft ip, 1 T1

\\'orkin:u~;1'~ Li.nc frmu ht .January ) :i! ... 1 I Jr i mb<-r, ;J !i, ~lm111 '' of 12thDJ)C'CCllli><·r. l~fl~

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JOINT SURYEYORS' REPOHT ]).\TETI lhn JIECE'.\fBEH, l!Jl!'.i.

u TnE E AST Lo'.'iOO.\: HAU.WAY .Jor'.'iT ColDllTTJ L.

u \ AI.CATIOS (~Ji.:Tr.oror.1s) .Acr l~G9·--QL"l~(.!T'l:S'.\'J.\I. YA1.1 AT!()!'{·.

"Bonorans OF BETllSAJ. G11n:s, Sn:rxF.Y, B..:H'IO'.\'llsEY ANTI T>l:1"Trf11t11.

_ 1 I915 wo suhmitk<l th<' fig-url'S which l_1:id llM'n imF·:u.•d !" tli_c <J·•ioqui·_nrii:..• - u _On_ th.~ ~ tl,:,,.:fn~t. tho seYcml I'rop ·rtit>i in tliL: o;t;up:~ti•:n of' tlw .J0111t. Crnu1mllc sl1•J\\Jn;.; o.

;; 'n.lu~:~":nc~i~~~e Of the existing rn.tcnhlc v1~hm fr.1111 £;J,'.?liti to £10,30.l.

pro~: - . . f Q;l·('CtiOD Wt'l'O S!'r\"f'd 1\llci WI' h:J.Y!' Bppn1.n•d before the ~c--:;c;l-'llW~~ ~f)lflTQitll' in ~ot1ccs 0

J_ 1 le proposed inc•:ca-;e Im-, ik.•(m n•dueNl from £,>,Oil t•1 -l,.,12. u support, tl:e result be111g t mt 1 1 •

" Tho dct>l.ils arc :is follows :-

PnTish or Borough.

Bethna-1 Green

Mile End X.T. lfhitechnpel ...

)Iilo End O.T. St. GL>orge-in-the-East

Shadwell W'apping

Bermondsey ...

Deptford

Lin<' of TI:-iilw iy ~h11rt.Jdit<•h ;--;tat ·m

:::l ti::~ ~i i~'.Lih~·:~: W hih-chnpl"I ;--;t •.·ion I~ine of Ha..ihrny l.in1· nf Hailwlly ShaJwcll Stal ion Linu of Hni!way

.. Liw•of Ha.ilw•.1.v \\"nppin!!' :-\r Llion Line of Hailww Roth('l·hit he :-\: LI i"n . Pumpiu:_:- Stations ~un·i·v Jlocks St.:1.tion

I Tnlli".iormt•r Suli-:-\tJ.1f;11n

. Lim· of H11ihrny . ..

"BOROCGR OF BETmUL GRm:x.

Pr< ·nt .A~ n l•t.

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"The increase of £25 propos1•<l hy the ..:\~("SSmcnt Commi:-tCJ"! i~ small and M the a~.;mcnt "embraces both line and station we recommend the .Joint Con11uitt1..'<' to acc~·pt bf! decision.

"BOROl:GR OF STEPXEY. 11

The decision re~ults in the exi-it in!.{ stnti<m A~sessment~ l>Ping continuf'd and the total for "the line decrPascd from .£2,.'iO~ to .£1 74:! lea\'in~ a M~t increa~(' of .£1,J:li O\'Cr th<' formc~ ".Jue :: ~~~1cii~ will im·oh-e the Joint Committee in nn incr(.':isc(l u.nnmil p:\)'lllcut for rnte.s of apprux1matc1y

"The present linci a!';.<;e;,;snwnt works nut flt tlH• rnt-'l of .£ t I J per mile Ml crimparc.I with a u TI:i.teahlc Yuiue per mile in B<·rmornl·t~\' nf £1 ~1·> 'l.nd tli- -\.,.;.,-;,•,.., .. qm·iil Gimmitt e now c

1m n•l

:: t,hu.t the ~our~ ln fixing lhcir _Hakd1I~ Yalu,. :11 a..j,. .~n ar -h~ie1i~.al 1uiscalcuh\tio11 nu I tha.1 the au.to per mile should be ap11roxunately th(~ s.1 111~ tli 1;.:hout t

1c int>.

11 ." \\'i~h regard to their first l'Olllt'llli,111, ,,.,~ submit tht·y lmn1 no ri~ht to attempt to in~c·rpr~t t~e l~ti•nhon of the Court: 011 tb1~11· s~cond p 11iut we tiliould he di~i,oscd to n"'rt'C in prwcipiC' 11

nssutmug- t~e rate per ruilu w~ nccei,tnhlt! to us. ' 0

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'I

"BOROt:<:II OF DE PTl·\ 1Jl\l .

" T '.l,~ propo"" I i1wrl":\."' ' of .£1,3:11 in li1i'> l lnro\i;;h b:i...; 1" n ah 11rl nu I , n l th• 1· x i tin·1

":\-'S(' ment of £l.)9j rcst>r rl. . . . . . . . "\\·e 13\"l' canf <~v r• vil"W•><\ t\w ,J,1int (;nmrnitt ·,•s p1-;itinn :t'l'I \\'" f··i·I li'Hirig- r• 'rl.1 I t11 tl.1·

''hr,!' ou n· un t'~" t~~ 1. 1:~·•n an,! tho ,.,.n· g-n·:\t a<'<'rdiun t<> llw nurnl e .. i I• II" r Lr 1• I 10 '·111-ta ·, ·1:- lwi1'. IJO'.l.th·1tw<'~li.d(h·1,o:.;r•- • t•!i?i,.ultvi11J,rsinl11 11 I"' r, "''I<• ·' fi, I 1•10 .. t ..: l -· '.llf"ll1 t 1•1 1!1·• prnp•·rty 1 11••W 1 lo• 1 wh 1 1 • m

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"The Xotic(',.; of Appo.>al t~ <~uurtpr i-il·s•dun~ lun·~ to Im :_:h·rn_ hy t.lu• I itli in!itiu1 t, 1~1J1l w,. ,. lia\·t• diflrl'fNl', <>JI tht• in .. truct1ons ~if t!JP. l!nlrng. Hurn~yor:> i~ctmg under Llw :~utli•irit.y r,f lli•• ")JiuutP X<J. 3;)4{i of the .Toi.nt C1mnmttee, given :S-onn.·.~ of ~\.pp1::al.

" 1'/l(' Appeal,.; are -;en'u in numhtil' _us ir i.'I decided not to appr~'.d in tlie r·aso 11f l;,.thru~I ,, (:n."!•'ll wheri· the J~ine of Railway nnd Stat.ion an· a:;~P.s.-;ed toget.l1er, <Jr 1n t.h1~ c'~"'~ 1,f t\ 11. ll:unlt-t. "of _\!ile g 11,j X 1,,,. T(l\\"Jl wll('l't" tl1e difli.~n-ince lit•twct·n the As-;<rs,;111eut n11rl th~ •LIJl(>Ullt c;ruit~·?ulN\ "for by tlu• Hating i-iurn:yors i::1 only £3.

" It i-< not prop ),..e,J in any of the Pnrish1•,.; to a11pen.I .ag11inat th<~ Asaes!:IOHmt.i-i of tlw 8u~tion~ ;, hm mh· in n"•pe¢t <Jf t!w T.intt ,,f ]{;dh,ny.

,. ;lw ~·ases on .\~pPnl .~'~ill ha.\·1· lO h~ prPparecl and lodg(•d hy tlH· ht Fehruriry and \\1(1

"an· taking o...t"P" fl.(•("onhn~ly.

.. ,.,, K\:--:'l' Lo}; l)(J:"J R.\IL\\.\. Y.

,, I aJ\·ise Ju" .Joint Comuiitt"t' o "1'.Jlt-'a_I ~u •lua.rtcr 8eHs_ic~n.~ ag:iin:;t tlie ll!ise-;~uu~nts rt'l.O~llth- ma.d<-'. 1 am and Jul\·•~ alway~ hcen •t opuwm tlmt the dl~{·1s1ou of the Court of A ieal gaiust. th~ {iui11yu1·u11i<d li:st of 1£110 \\<1 wrnn:; {'\"f'H 011. tlw ca-;e a-. it w:i'I suhruittf~~ t,,

"rhem. That. dt>"i"ion \~·as rt•fe1~red to'>\" t •. Hous1~ ,f Lot'd'\ lll tlw I"!~l:P.nt aµp<'al !1y tl1t· Ur,,ftl

";;·,"1,,. ,, ,,/ .if.tropa~ (rm_ R1ul1n1i/ f '>111/)( lo th.e lf1~mmt·r-;nu1l_1 arid City Railwa\' ,, a-; ~iu;; 011 fac~ ..... Jistmgui~lu~hlf' Irou r l• tlitm l)<:•t'.irc tlwio, .;ind tnnn th•· fa•·ts iu ti{" , lJ nf U"l/ ,.,.,e: 11 · least tl11s is \\hat one wou d gat•ll'l'. trom tlit• JUdgnients. Tu n·;.r.Jity

111 • tLe ('ours~ .,f the argumt"ut it was ·11u1 11d1 d f, r tht• rnt!wa.y l:ompa1dl's that tht> ca.-.P 0

( tJi, . . Harnnwr~mitl1 and Cit_\ Jtailw.t.l" .\·a,., ;;o\1•1nt '.\"the dt•(;} !Oil of tl11· }[.,USf" lif r ... 1rd." iu llw

·· l>fi,,'1 1,.,1 ·rt'·, '1wl tiiat tl1e l:a.:.l Lu doi /,'a l•c .'f " was lllcousillten1 Willi that dt>cisiori Jl •Jic

0

Jlvtbt' oi r.ords su~;;ested )II ire I l l !II(' ! l tlw 'IJ~rse of. tht· al'.!.:'.U!Uf'llt that it Wu,..; IHI;

·· nece-.s:u·y tn di ... cu ....... wherh1·r the /.r1 / L 1tf ·a.I' '\a .. 'i 1&1con~1stc11t w.ith the J;,uihur,11 ,.,11.,,

; be,·au-.,• it had pr,ic.·1>1•dNI 011 I 111. o i t 'lL tlu· fact~ of tlu~ /:o•t /,owkm "''"" wen~ • <listi11;;uish:wle frl m tht fad in lw t.u

1 I ' I 11 wy •pinion if the c1i..;1· WPl"e rt-~lr·•ui•

1 ,, before thf" Houst· ,( Lords t li1·re i ! 110 I J•r 'P'' t <if "Ul'c·f's;i in satbfying tlw I lou-<e that"' tlti· fa ·t-. aJl;..etill!.,\' t !·;1st l.011do11 {aiJ\, • • )r rating- µurpr)so•..; not di.sti11gui--!1able froni i.he }Janb1uy ·a ..... • ,,. from tlw l"I« '.t , 1 111 111 r"ru t11 :i.11.J City Hnilway 1· tse.

'· It i.., '. 11p01·taut to re1w·111b ·1· ··•I is _Yl·:tr will llOl he ht·a.rcl L(•fn1• ' •Ht iwfm P Ue C1minnan who d(•1·H1c

·• a11d r ity R11 "llca.11 1'0·'', and \\ 1,,.,1 d Ea•I f.u11do1. ra,,,, was grant<'<l t f> t 1 'l

c;t'<•" on er:...:iin I oints \' hid1 w ,f .:ettiu:.: a. case uun1 fuirh· ..

' e, rP- )~ n.i ... ,·, a ld m my ~pinion ) l ne )I the rai'wlly COhlfJ-lll"

ul1 on.v ~h • i· if• I! 11 in o. r • p1n l-iP

r 1g wit(' a•r Ui 'LJlpC'al or not, that the appei' Ch. i1mm who <le~·idl·d the Fn~t J,,,111/ott 'H8P. '1 th ·alway compa1ti(·s in t:1e llammwr.1mitl1

• i.li d in the Hnuse of Lords. When the 1 . \"Plan<! Lo\"claod, rl"fu:-;El(l to grant

t•rp is in my 1pinifl11 a ~'~id ch•1nc,. 1 point whi .. :h th!:' .l(1i11t Commitlt

plan tn argui• int·.r 11l'a thiit eithr1 rent : all, or (~) i thl!y g:ne a rt-nt.

l 1 fl on their own main iues in other

If·~ rn"'e \0"1 fairl:1 dn1"1>11 r ,..., i p ·1l w h other~ I think ·her would _l)t: .! -.1d p1osr .:t h.i 1• wvu!d :-<U('Cl d in '"h Hu11 ot Lord:;. .\.t all 11 \·enb ii ·htJ .fomt

'C )IJJm1ttP c nnot bN a. ptop1 r \ s ite I IJuartei· :-:-lessions tlwv 1:an tht•n ell'l't to I•roctif· l n' furt ll'-r I tlnnk ho\\ 1 1 1 t 14 ./oi 1t "11umittee 1uu:-;t be pr~·pan·tl to Wkl' a ca."'l'

:: up. t tlie H~rni:;e uf Lords, '.dthough pm l o...<m:e part of tlu· exp<'lbC mi.~ht !."~an"~ if the .J,11ut Cm11m11t1·e g;t\'P not11..:1.· !fJ tlu• \~ .. ··~snif·nt Cornmitki·s ht:f1ll'e thl' lW'll"ln~ 111 t!w

•·] lh·isional Court and thf' Court of AJ•p(·u.i that th+'\" :ulmitt,f'd tlmt. in thoso Courts n• . ..;p!X-tively :: '.~·~ de<.'isio1~ <1£ the Court of App1~al giw'n fiv,. ye:;i·s ago must prevail. Jf such n. uotic_e v.•1·re "~n··n. poss1.b~y merely nomi11al cost-. <,f obtainiu.f:! the formal ordt·1~ would lw idlo\H•ii 0~ , inx:~w,ri. . Jf crrnrse if thP Appeal ultirna "1y sur:«l~1·d,·d iii tht" House of Lords, the Appt>llant•

urdmary 1.:<1Ur"-e would t'PC••V~l o.ll th• r c 1sts \>1ith t.lu•re and in tbe Coul'fs h<>low.

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3390. District Co. and W. and B. Committees' Act 1900 '.3188 and 3212·

~t'H'llTTl:I> lt'tlPr from :'.\ft'·-inl. llri'll·)W

H ;.soLn:u-

Thnt tho ~L-<:r1•t:i.ry ii lil'reby lUthor 1u."CI l 1· C( ute on iJ of" lSPnwnt prondcd fur iu th•· '.\lrn ~., . ., 11" rn ::: 1 .

3391. Prosecution.

l:Rl'Or>n:D·

.l 0im ( unutt-Oe, t 1e

Tlmt on 3],..t :\l11rch a.'<t A. p:i. Pl\'; , w l. ~on\ ": ~d of frnu u l

111\l' ;.:uinPa \'OSt-'i. '" li , .ml ti m () ., ind

3392. Meetings. 1916.

'l'ht> following 1ht.l1s Wf'I'•' fi:x1•tl for tlH· Lommi •r• ~ u,. •tin~"' iu 1!1 1 j

.Julv l "'th, (}, Ol l(·r 11 I,

l>e :c·mb • ~th,

Th o• Clulirnrnn of d H' l~ ~ nw ~ I 1~ t • I ll in~~r 111 nee1 m~ if "c n•nd1 Bit n .tl!.i.<mry.

3393. Traffic Receipts.

T iu.' fignn·s of Commitl(') P: nin~ a.n omi1 t I 1 t 1rv be

3394. Banker s' P ass B ooks :.;\1 .·11 KD, 11 u B 1kc s :0- t.t m• "J.t, 0 n., c _di· :;:.la.necs to i'l.t -

Vn.-) \ )\ t

( ur nt

3 3 95. Cheques ~1nsv.P for "1 -·1'1 1 L fl.I, l?1· 11 t of L im· l'l<'' n·pork I signc

3396. Retur n of Receir".s end P o-, ·s.

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ST.\ 1'IONS.

.Now Cro81l1 S.E.lt

CO.\Cil!NG RxctuPTS }"OR 1\Lo\.RCll, 1916, rn CO.'ilP.~RISON WITH MAncu, lfH5.

r::ast!.ondon H11ih111y.

ftri.i:-11!.011 Railwny.

£ ~. cl. .£ 8. d. 21-J .JO ·J

Sonlh Jo:.1.•!<lTU

Hnil"ny.

£ s. d.

UOOKI:\(0$ '1'0

.c ~- d. £ ~- d. ·l621610 73 1 8

Di~trict Huihn1s.

£ s. d. 28 H 9

w .• tB. L. '1'. & 1:>.

£ ll. d . fi7 9 15

<;r""~ l•:.,,1on1

llnilwuy.

£ ~. d. '7 7

)[1trel!, I liareb JUJC. 19ir,.'

£ 8. d. !l03 0 8

--.£ 8. cl.

7.t6 ;I 6 Do. L.B.8.C. 378 13 S 391 14 5 (ii) 0 0 :w 11 GO 9 3S 19 9 977 8 7 190 2 ll

Surrey Docks

Rotherhithe .

Wn1iJiiog

ShaJ11·ull

Whitedmpel.

Shor1.>ditch

Tot:tls, liar., I9l6

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196 6 o 1 10 I I 8 IO I 05 2 ;) ·Ii Ii 6 32 9 4 25 Ii 9 12 12 0 113 3 11 3!2 7 lO

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i

3i1 15 3 12 IO 5 18 2 / 0 6 6 300 19 l 319 18 11

211 12 s ~ s ~I 1 1 s11~ i 15 4 o 19 3 o 2 10 22~ 13 9 171 14-0

I ---,---;-2,·119 4 2 43 5 u 2s o o 1,aso11 6,325 13 11 ;z;>1 IS s :238 1:, 6 i10.1 5 11 ·1,soa1s 1 ,_,_,_,_

5243 12 4 lSG 14 2 !IH 7 7 llOl 3 3 I ... ·4,0GS 2 5

.Ku.\lnJm of Pa.ssengers booked to, from, u.nd over the Eu.st London Line ior the month:-; of

September, October, Kovember a.nd December, 1£11:3, and January and February, 1916.

From To and O\•er Db~:m- j January, February, Six Carre.

l9tJl5. I 1916. 1016. J•l~I;~~~-· $};.;~: ---- ----1--------1---East London l.ine

" " Brighton Sou Lb Ea.stern i\fot.ropolitn.11 City Lines DisLrictLine . . W. & B. ; & L. 'l'_ & S. Great Eastern Line

Bri.g-ht-On J.ine . I 2,216 ~outh Eastern J.ine :3

1:)()2

.:\[etropoiita.u 86,4!)1 City Lines . 28,487 l>istri<:t Line . , 12,036 W.&B.;&L.T.&S. 11,828 c:rnat Ea.stern Line 6,531 bu;t London 5,!)92

1,818 65,310 20,263 10 'J-''l 35:556 6,635

--:

2,013 1'

l,i-!8 93,:H;

32,5661 13,961 13,-W4 7,121 6,0D:l l,529

68,731 24,263 11,105 •l0,578

7,745

Tota.ls of Through

Ea.st London Loe:al 206,057 I 324,:J5J

414,115 435,845

l.vss I 1,70:3

9:3,3t'2 35,0-18 14,601 l:J,514 6,329 6,012 1,516

68,879 :1,J. 574 12'.444 39,:ll4

6,907

336,250

428,8.33

2,n1 l,!)77

108,420 38,659 16,490 J6,,l01 6,803 6,417 1,500

79.931 26,021 l:l,771 42,409

7,141

368,454

454,993 Return Ticht.<; nre doubled .

- - ~ot,ds

1

710,172 j~~ Corre11pondi11g 2'otals 1914 and 191,- -:;-9 1----

0 • "'I ,7.J;'l o7o,i'J08 507,l94_

823,4-!7

646,S05

___ ! ___ __ _

2,229 2,086 12,926 11,751 1.63~ 996 10,707 5,850

105;35:1 97,6·15 I 584,66i S9E,b91 36, 197 34,3:12 205,279 ll,I,604 16,573 15,466 89,127 58,621 16,092 U,306 85,73.5 6£,716 6,471 5,187 38,+42 81,8$2 6,-126 6,337 3i/2ii 80,387 1,614 1,679 9,656 10,ISJ

75,593 67,451 425,904 280,6JO 24,760 22,864 H-:J,745 98,!!74 13,513 ll,498 72,654 1,5,811 41,615 37,900 237,372 178,PJ

6,580 5, 187 40,195 Jl,001

------354,647 322,924 J,992,6861· 1,874,86-i

455,451 409,956 2,599,193 r;,17a,so-1 ______ , ___ , ________ I I '

810,098 I 732,880 4,591,Si 9 -----------____ , ___ , I I I •qJ6S

GG:J,23$ j 000, 786 · · · ~'i,v_::_

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EAST LONDO RAILWAY JOINT COMMITTEE.

MEETING:

CANNON SWEET I-loTE L, LONDON, 12th July, 1916.

BRIGHTON cmIP ANY

CHATI-IAi\I

DISTRICT

EAST LONDON

GREAT EASTERN ,,

:METROPOLITAN ,,

SOUTH EASTERN,,

PRESENT:

HEAR AmnnAL TIIE IloN. Taos. SEn10un Bn~-n. Sir .WILLIAM FORBES.

Sir FRAKCIS II. DENT.

EnNEST LAW, EsQ. MumtAY G1t1FFITIJ, EsQ .

. WM. MILLWOOD, EsQ. Col. A. G. A. DUHAKD, C.B., C.I.E.

i\lr. LACEY.

Lonn CLAUD J . HAMILTOX, :\LP. liir. II. W. THOHKTON. Jiir. p ARKER.

The RT. HoN. LORD ABEncoxwAY. Mr. R. H. SELBIE.

The RT. HoN. Lonn HoTHFIELD. 'WILLIAM MEWBURN, EsQ.

Sir FRANCIS H . DENT.

IN ATTENDANCE : Mr. PARSONS, Secreta1·y and Manager.

Lonn CLAUD J. HAMILTON, l\'I.P., in the Chair.

3397. Minutes. Tm~ }hNUTES of the Committee's Meeting of the 19th April last, having been printed :tnd

~ircul ated , were declared correct, a.nd were signed.

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O~:>,S.E

L.B.t

ocks

ho.

: 1916

1915

St

15

h ges-Ha:lf-year ending 30th June, 1916. 3398. Solioitors' C ar

Sun1o11l'TED Messrs. Bristows Bill of Cost! a.s under:-

re Parliamentary ... -· · ·· re Prosecutions, less co!tS recovered

re Claims ... ~·e Whitechapel Easement

APPROVKD1 a.nd to be pa.id.

339 9_ Division of Responsibility under Lease (3386).

£ •. cl.

1 15 6 14

£12 16 11

SuBlfITTED agreements from a.11 Companies to the figures for year eudiog 31st December, 1915.

3400. Rent of Line due ! st October, 1916.

RESOLVED-

That £15,000 the half-year's reut be paid to the East London Company on !st October next.

3401. Electrification.-New Cross Staff Box (3388).

The deferred matter of the provision of Electric St[L.ff for this section 'va.s considered, and it wns

RESOLVED-

That Electric Staff and Tablets be provided1 a.t the estimated cost of £100.

3402. Quinquennial Re-Valuations, 1915 (3389).

SunmrTED Joint Surveyors' Reports1

as under :-

"QUINQUENNIAL REVALUATION, 1915.

H E.-\sT LONDON B.AtLWAY v. BonouGnS 01" S'rEPNEY, BERMO~DSEY AND GaEES"WICH.

"th u W\th refereuce to our reports submitted to the Joint Committee on 19th April (Minute 3389), " R~t!';'t;,~l:~;e heard at the London Qual·ter Sessions on the 9th, 10th, and 1 ltb inst. before Sir

' K.C. and a bench of magistrates.

II of R".f udgment was given in favour of the J oin t Committee a.nd the Rateable Value of the L!ne " Commatt~:~ ~~t~~ed from £5,092 to .£100. 'l'he Respondents were ordered to pay the Jornti

" Resp~n~~:t~ec~.~ih~ ' ~etails of which nre set out on the attached statement. will, subject to tho l'lg 0 appeal} result in an annua.l saving in Rates of a.bout £2,29o.

" 161/i May, 1916."

"SIDNEY E. HITCHCOCK,

" S. A. p ARNWELL, u Joint Surveyors.

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"EAST J,O:<DON ltAILll'AY JOfNT L:O.\D!fTT im AH·m-;~\IF.'HH.

RA.'J'EABI,1': \'AJ,l:f':.-t.

Nr.w All<r.!t!lteY'!fT ..

DOROL'Gll 01< PAHl-'11. Old Pro1>0!k'd Aucs1mu-nl1J I IJ•:ci~irm A111w.eeme11t9. C.nnmitt•.,·'• 1.y u ..... i~i·m dtor "' Th>tOllJ:"b ohju<•tion loy QnArV>r

Vn.hwr11. • ft, H11ney()N, H.e~·ilJTI.ll .

----l. Li~rne OF H.,w,wAY Af'P}!AJ.IW AO,\l'.'."ST.

Borow;h oj Stepw·y. £ .£ £ £ Whitcdmpol 128 440 2i3 9 :\lilo End Ol<l Town IJO 51 l 318 7 St. Ceorg.:i in the Kist 2-16 I,363 8~7 18 Shadwt•ll. 21 t'.? "6 1 W1ipping .. 90• 126 265 G

Bo-rouqh of Btrmond.~ey ... 1,368 2,280 l,3GH 30 Grcenwicli {,:nitm. (Dtptford) 1,990 3,326 1,9~5 29

'fo·rAIA'i 3,998 8,38R f.i,092 100

2. L1:sES OF Ri1.ILWAY :\OT Arr1-:.\J,KD AO.\IS'ST.

Borough <!f St 1•1mey. ~Iile En<i ~ow Town .. . 20 20 13 13

3. STATIO:xs (:xoT ArPJ::ALl.:O AOAl\'•rr).

1Jor011,qh of SVptvy. Whitech:ipcl 150 303 1;;0 150 Shadwell ..• 125 J;)Q 125 125 'Vappin~ .. 25 155 i5 75

Roron9h ()f B~rmo1ul.,l'y. Rotherhit.hc a.mi Surr(•y lloclo1 400 401 l 900 900 Transformer Subst.:ition I 350 6J I

Borough of lJethnal Gre1•1t. Shoreditdi Station nm! l.i 1c of llaihrny 200 250 2:.!:> 225

GnANO 'fOTHS 5,268 10,311 6,580 1,588

• The line and alt\tion in Wappin~ wcro not ~p:i.~11.cly rat• din lhe olJ a~~e,;smcnl, R.nrl the di\·ieion hall bl' ·n e.~tim:i.~J.

"Re£erring to our report of t.ho lGth ~fay hi.st, the period during which an n.ppcal by the " Respondents in this oa."IC could be lodged l'xpiroH on the 11th instant, and we arc credibly informed u that. no appe.'l.l will bo loclgcd.

" The decision of Quarter Ses:,ioni; will therefore stand, a.nd tako immediate effect.

" 1th July, 191 6.'

" SID:-IEY E. HITCHCOCK, "S .. \. l'AHN\\'ELL,

".loiul Su,1·1·eyor.~.

Theae reports we~e received with apprO\'al, a.nd tho Joint Sun·eyor~ being called in wcro coruplimenterl nnrl thanked by the Chairman on bclinU of the Commit.tee, and it wns

RF.SOLVED-

Hitchc~~~t an honorarium of £500, be equally cli,·irl<>d to the Joint Rur vPyorq, )!r .. 1m1, PRrnwf'll !\n<l

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.=-'.C

I

·' .f

Se

3403. Meetings. 1916. The following d/\te'-4 were fh:ed for the Cl)mmit.tco's mcot.ingM in 191 G :­

Ootoher 11th, ])cccmbcr 13th,

being Wcdne!ldny~ nt 2.30 p.m.

ThC' Chnirman of tho !Mt mcctin~ to co.II nn interim meeting if it is considorod necCS'll\ry.

34o4. Traffic Receipts.

'!'he figures o[ Committee'~ <"tl.l'nings MO omittod ll.'i they ha.vc not been cleared.

3405. Bankers' Pass Books S.uoluTT&o, with Bankers' Statement, showing cre<lit balnnces to dat.e :-

Ocposit. Account

Current

£9,000. £2,891 !Gs. Sd.

3406. Cheques Srmrno for £!i,633 10s. 7d., Cheques for .£61411 6s. 4d. {\\"ngcs, lhtes, GM, ~laint-enance,

etc.) reported signed since la..qt mectin~.

3407, Return of Receipts and Passengers.

SonlllTTED the following stn.tements :-

CoACllING RECEIPTS FOR APRIL, 19161 IN CO~tPARISOX WITB APRIL, 1915.

BOOKIXG~ TO TOTAL Rt::CEIPTR.

STA'l'IO~S.

New CrOllll, S.E.R. 268 6 5 62·1 11 3 66 14 I 29 0 6 57 s 11 I 6 10 95214 9 i3i 16

Do. f.B.S.C. 31}6 9 5 Hf> rn 4 6317 2 36 18 I 62 ., 3 1,000 19 s iiG 3 i5 17 f)

idu.rrey Docks 423 I 16 s 6 32 l'i I 320 11 71 9 0 82 1·1 10 67 2 I .. 10 0 1,059 7 3 SS2 15

Hotlierhilhe ISO 15 ' ·I 2 4 7 0 !)311 s 37 I 3 31 I I02 9 'I 356 2 7 7 25 4 3 J; 0

Wnppiug 151 1511 2 f.i 11 2 II 9 48 7 3 2·1 Iii 28 8 0 12 18 • I 18 2 276 0 6 214 0

3

5

• I

6

Shadwell 3i.S I 8 IO 6 0 O II 111 64 I 1 10 9 0 28 7 JI 5 19 9 13 16 6 6lt 12 !O -1.99 210

Whitech11pel. 3<8 4 0 lij ·I 2 10 I 9 0 I s 373 17 3.fi 12 s

Shored itch 187 11 3 5 6 I 5 6 I I 2 0 13 2 I 201 IS 16313 9 I 7 8 6 13 s 0 0 4

\--------' I --Tot.Al•, Apl., H116 ·~.303 6 0 " " 2r 19 0 11-iGS I i 12;;1 f.i :HG 10 0 ' II 2tH IS 10 238 ·I 4 5 ·",iS2

I I

Do. Apl., l!llli '2,163 B i\H ---i I 'J(I

9 A :jj 0 ' 1,01·1 12 i 2M ' 3 li3 l!l ., 1~2 13 4 121 II ,!l:i

I

-BT.lT

:-;ew Cr•

I~

Surrey I

\\':tj;'i:'ir.'f

Sh d• U

Whi:e

Do. -

•T

Ho

W·1n,i

t:hadwe

Wbitcc

l'o .•

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CoACDl!'iO RnCEIPTS FOR MAY, 1916, 1~ co~1rAn1so'."i w1,. 11 MAY, 19! 5•

358 3 I

12 17 I 111[) • 30·1 H ' 3 7 ' 2 13 6 SG 18 0 :.:!U JS

I • 0 0 1-1 61 ' 9 '.,?.') 'J 0 1 7 17 11 3:12 3 6.1 "·;311} l

· 1163 11 W 3 1 31 o IO l:! ll 2 l l 9 2!.lO l1 'H.'j 9

:)tu.Jwell • 39!:1 11 12 ll I 2i t-i i 5 l'i ll s 11 6 &':> 8 ·l 5117 10 :I

Wbitech.<tpul . • 3t;9 1 S

1

o l ;, I 3;.2 o ~ I 360 ::! 1

9 7 G l:! ' 59 6 3

Sho~ditch . Hl4 3 5 2 3 2 l 5 l 1 I 1 0 11 0 I ··~ :.! Ii I 6 0 l 5 :.!OG 16 10 l~~ i

-----,------1--- --- __ , ·- i---

16 6 ' 6 10 10

Totnl~1)[ny,1916 :!,11Sll 3 151010 3:! 11 l,:.:!!l·il:! , r:.! i S ll s :.!21111102:.!~ll OliG 8 l l,iJ!)'Jl9 i ...

l)c. )foy, 1015 2,315 6 8 s; 16 9 91 15 S 1,265 5 812; 6 10 f> ,;~ 220~li;:, s 11 1--.. -. -1~

CoAcmxo REc1-:1PTs FOR Jcx1-:, UHG, t\" com>.\RJso :-.- w1rn JU\"F., l!H5.

llOOKIXGS TO

STATIONS. I f.n11t LonUon Urll::'hton nt irld W . • \: ll.

Hai!1rny. L. '1' •• '>. S . -:=n •'. ~:Uttrn U~ilwny . I Jone, I '"·'· l1Jl6. Hll.5.

Suney Dech

B'.therhithe •

Wnpping

Shndwell

Whit«hapel .

bi:c·rcditch •

Rllillvny. Rnilwny.

12S " I l~ 13 5 ..::1 II 31.; 11 i ~ 19

188 16 3 6 I i 3 10 103 I ' ·El 17 5

155 9 I 17 G 12 12 63 7 2G 9 11

41 6 JI 6 10 12 ; II 11 0 60 13 11 13 ll ;

£e.d. £ii.d. £1.d. '!I ~ b 53 ·I 1

:!U 12 !' 62 14 3 3'; 0 I

~:; IS lil 61 5 3 IC. I 9

------£ I . d. £ I. d.

:-:-0 1:i i ib5 ·I 11

~Ii HI l i S7 -I

1,06110 tl4519

30 1 10 23 l.J

16 21 ll IS

0 II " 0 l '1• u 6 I :!S2 2

3

G

3S i 7

2;>3 11

·tSi 11 J

:.! ~ I 0 11

:rn ;j • 6 13 ·I 0 3 3 6.31 II 9

3GG 12 10 20 2 IO S O 7 ... 3tl-1 16 3 360 0 S

Hii I S l 3 13 S 11 11 G I 2 O l:.? 3 I 11 h I lG 1 lSl 5 G !SS 3 3

-----L-- 1----1--- ------------ -------_':·:::::::::::::::1:1:1~!~1:~~::: ·;: ~~~~

nnd

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Froni

S cll nEr. of P M<zcn.:::ers bo,.,k<" l tn, fro:n, irnrl over t he E iL"t. l n ndon L inc for t.he mt>n t.hA of

D('C('mlX'r, 19lj, n111l .Jnnunry, Ft}hruri.ry, M a rch, A p r ll and ) fo.y, IIJI G.

Ikccm­l1t•r, I91j.

Jnnuary, F chrunry, ) J11rd1, I9H.i . 1916. 19Ifi.

April, !!JIG.

:\fay, l!JIG.

~ix

)lout\11>' T11ta1

J' t J,,,, don Line J:ri::ht.-.n I.inf' :-.; •U!h En ti rn I.rnt \J, tr ·1 :iinn

2. ii I 2,22!)

IO~:~~b I O~,:~~~ 2,0~G

ti!)G

Di,fi J."> ·-11·1·1 •1

2,16 1 1,U:!I

IOG,7s:)

~.131 1,~01

101,0~I :-1 ~?.! HJ l I. !J;~ I J[l,1;;,1; ;;, tr.~ .\~:;:-,

1,i:-<O

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:: 1,0;0 11,:177 l ~ f' I''

13,IJIH ·","'i!J

G21,!H I :n:J,lj"'~

!J l.~31 (':tv 1:i11 s lti.tri{·tl.i11c \\ ,\: 1:. :,\;" L.T.&~. C at E tt·rn I.ii c F T. 1u on

;L",GM.l u;,1!.IO lti,.·,,1 C."(':l 1.,.u1 1· '

;.,,31 - I I ,ii I

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36, !!ii IG,!'>i;) I 6,U~l:! l;,lil G, I;.

j,!,:~~/i ~l,7b' 1.1.a1:i ~I. 1:.

1:-,::1~6 l l,30fi :i,l"i {i,:i0i 1,G;,

G7,1."'il '-" ·1 11,.'

:.i~' 1 .. 7

i~:~~f Hi,~:;:;

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1;,~·01

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r.!J,IC3 "o.-." 11 ' OG:!

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J,71 I f:...,,:!:..I ~1.~;:,r,

1",J .. ~ ,,i,

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10.fJl~ 4 . .J.Ol~ Hl,1;, •c.1-c

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J4, 1r;4 8,&7t]

4t;t1,;,.;,? Jt;f;,7fj;,J

7.;,1>.;r; 72,111 .,7,f;U .';f;,7/8

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EAST LONDON RAILWAY JOINT COMM ITTEE.

J;JiJ(;JJTO.'> CO.\ lL \ NY

l ' 11 . \ Tl L\ .\l

JJJ:-;TH I CT

E.\ :-;T LO.'> IJO.\"

~lETIWl'OLl'J' . I .'> ,,

!-'O l'Tll L.\.. 'TEHX ,,

,\J EETl .\"U :

l'J:ESE.'\T

,\lr. B1·:.11J11Y (for " ir \\'ill ia 111 ForiH»).

'fh c Hr. I lo:-... Y 1:-Wul \ 1 ('1111.sJo'\

1\l r. ] L\ YSE (fu r ;-)i r VraJJei:; I h~nt),

L 1:.\ EST L,\ w. Escl. ) l n:1:.\Y l ;l:IIT!lll. l-:s1,.

\\':\!. .:\fll.l.\\'t}llJI, ,._ ... 1!.

l'ol. .\. t •.• \. /11..,, (' J:., f' I I. \lr. J, \•T\'.

I.01:1> C'L.\\ [J .T. Jf ''I '11)' \I I'

\Ir. 1'.11:1, I If 111 I. \\ TJ.n111t••J,

The H'r. ""' · Lll , \ .\Ir. H. H. "' • '"!.

\Y 1L1.l.DI .\IE\\J.1 1,'\ 1-_...,

·1:' ' \ \\ .~ \ •

.\ Ir. H 1n1·: \for "1r hanl'i' / ll'nt).

Ix ... \ rrl-'.\ll.\\('I. ·

).Ir. PA HSO !IO s, S1·1'/'l'/11 rp •1111/ .l/r1 11,1:iu·.

L o1rn CLAl'J J J. "il :L\JJLTON , )I.I '., ;n tlw Chair.

3408. M inutes.

. Tue 1.!1suTi::s of the Cotnmittcc's ~ l cct.i1w circulated, were dcclu.red correct, and were signed . t> of the 12t h J uly last, hnv ing been printed nnd

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fJ,:

JC 3 Jo J(

6 6

~ 1. ( 9, fG, 8,; 2,4 ,I

4i

5

3400. R ent of Line due 1st October , 1916- (3400).

UBPORTBI>-Tbat in o.ecordane<> with minute 3!00 of, 12th July h.,.t, tho cent duo "E""t London Company, J;l ~ ,O(JO, l ... ~x . bnd been pnid to that Cowpa.oy on the :..nd 1011t:i.nt.

3410. Electrification. Finance. (3374).

H.EPOHTl~D-Thnt cheques buve been signed fo•· .£1,(95 IDs. Od . since h"t report, nmking cheques •ignd to date

£87,68~ 16s. 4d . A mounts rcco,•cred, premium on debentures, and surplus materials .£6,33 I ls. 6d. ; nott expenditure

w date, .£8 1, 355 U s. l Od.

3411. Rat ing Appeals. c osts.

B..E.\D letter from Messrs. Bristo~n :-"cu~r::> I~ HATl~G APPEAL::>.

"The costs payable by tho llC>!'""dent l'"ri,hes in cuunection with the nb<,.·e A1•1><.n1' bi.dog " uow been adjusted "e ure ul>lu tu furui.'h n full stn crncnt of account shewmg thu leo&! expi·nm an•! '"payments wh.ch tall upon the Juint Cumwittee us uut being rccuver.•ble !rum •he }{e,pondents.

"These expenoes and pnymen~• comprise it<·ms prcliu>':•nry to the Appeals such ns obtaimug the " opinion of Counsel n• to <lw desirability oi •l'l'eahug ngn1ru;t tbe usses»ncnt<, and also cettnm nem• " incum<l durmg the course of the proccc><lrngs which accon.hng to the practice oi the Couro were e.ihor " not chargeable against the Uespontlun1" or wcrn nut rccover>ble in full from thum.

"We enclose particulars of thC•U "'!'""'-• ;i:o<l paymcnt>, "hich sumn,arisc u.s follow•,_ £ ! . d. H 11

" Profes&ionnl Charge• in respect of items not nco,·urable against the lt.,.pondents

" Payments to witne.ses in exce>S of amounts rcco<erc<l from llespontlents " Paymrnts to Printer• and Lithogrnpher; in excess uf amounts recuvered from

£. '· d. " Respondents ...

" Fees paid to Counsel in excess of amount. recoverc<l from Respondents 6U 17

11 Miscellaneous disbursements iu cxcu>s of amounts reco,·ere<l from

" Respondent:;

13 9

" On the 17th May the Committee adva.nced on accnunt of expenses

0 Deducting the o.bove .. . L~ "es a. balu.nce of

3S JO

53 19

74 7 0 --£.:!US 7 JO

950 0 0

208 7 10 -­.£7H 1:3 ~ -"We shall be able to send you a cheque for chis amount as soon ns we rece_ivc fro'!: the

" Re•pondents the amounts payable by t hew, winch we a re ad vised will be about the Uth ,n;c nnt.

That )[essrs. Bristows' accounts are in the h•nds of the Joint Surveyors for examinntiou •0

d repurt .

That, in ~ddition_, (1) £.65 had been paid on lfating Surveyors' certificate. for expenses in gottiug ~u\;~~ figures 0~ pnroch•al earnrngs; (2) that 15 gumeas bad been recovered for the fig~res prepared ~,nd ondenc g by the Secret.ry, and have beeu paid in to the cred.t of the Committee's "ltauog Exponsos.

R&PORTSD-

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3412. Government Control. Re Intcr~t. on Capita.I expenditure on now workfl brought into uRn :-

H.RSOL\.l':D-Tha.t tho Accountn.nts of tho ll"'!;f'f' ~ompn.ni?S 1~cot, 1m~ cO?Rider wit.~1 tlH\ 84'.wrr.:to.ry ho"' .th<·

"inMructious" are to he ,~ppl iod M concl•rns thn1 Commit.toes Elcctnfico.t1on expenditure, Elrclr1fiOO Pumpm~, nnd Liflli.

3413. Electrification. Metallic Circuiting.

Rf:An ltitkr from )fr. TNnp<'st.1 J~nginCPI' of rlw S.E. & C.H. as follows:-

"J•;AS'l' r ... o~DON HATLWAY ELECTRlFJCATlON.

"You will 1·cmcmhcr tlmt suhs<'<i\ll'nt. Ii<> thu olcctriGcation of tlw l•~nst Lomlon R1~ilw1~y it wai " iwcc-s.sitry to pr<l \·ide mct~~llic circuiti ni.; in Ol'dl'r t~' mft.kc tho instl'Umcnts in tho Cabin11 011 tho ;< blnn1t:,.-ing Comnntkt:'s line immune from itny possible failuro Cf\USc<l by stro.y electric curr(:nts from

•' dm electrified Jin<'. "'\'e have nxt·ntly hn.d trnulih' i~L Gn.-enwich Ct~bin, where the olcct.ric ropcatorR n.nd hell

.. instruments ha\·c bec-n u.fft.><:h.·d hy Mt my currcnl:-1,-and from informal ion to hand fr<1m 1.lr. Cooper "it i.s e\"ident the trouble originated on tho Eu.st London Railway .

. , 1'o nlto""ctbcr prevent further interruptions from u. similur cause, metallic circuit.in" ~houlc.1 W " pro\'ide<l to th~ instruments in th~ C1lhin~ frow Deptford to Cha.rlton Junction, the cost "of which T "estimate at about. _£420. (.Four hundn:d ;md twenty pounds).

" .As the necesbity for this work arises entirely ~ a. rf'!iult of the J<:a ... ~t I. .ndon Hail way "electrification, the cxpcuditun.' involvod should be debited against tho.t. account.

<;I shall be glnd to hMr frllm you in due course."

Hi:;SQL\'KD-

That this mntter is r<-'frrrl'fl to th<' 0<'ncral ManngcN.

3414. Parliamentary Solicitor. (3360).

R&SOLVED-

That )fr_ J. 0. Dri.:itow Ix. Parli;uuent.ury ::iolic >!"for tl11• rmsuing: :--;,~~si•m

3415. Passenger Train (Steam) Running Expens~s. (3361).

RE::iOLVED-

That the ra.to of h. 5d. per tr in milo fnr trains work<.'<1 hy su.·nm cvnt.iuuc in torcc until

31st Dt"Ct:ml><·r, 1917.

3416. Goods, Minerals and Live Stock Tolls. (3362).

RESOLVIm-

1'hn.t the tolls for th~ year 19 l i he tho :-;n.mc a.s those operating for 1 !) l G.

3417. P assenger Traffic Division. (3363).

Rr.soLYEo-

'l'hat th<' division in force for the year 1916 be continued fo1· the yea.r 19li.

3418. Parcels, H. c. & D., etc., Division. (3364).

HF..50L\'ED

That the di"U;ion in furct~ for the year 19l7 be the snmc as tha.t for l!H6.

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3419. Accident to Staff

H1>PORTE0-3--• o- t • •- iu.'ll n. Pumping Eng ino Atltwlnnt WM killocl n.t H<Jthcr!iith,. hy (irl!ll.t Eaat.ern That on r-u .;x.·p cmuur '

Goods train. 1'he do.im i-. being st•ttlod by the U i11trict Co. whostJ 1·111plny1:0 thtJ mnn wa!I.

l h:l'Oll'fED t<J .Board of Trndo.

3420. Prosecutions.

R•:ronn:o-Thn.t on 11th August a past:1eng1•r, Hicks, w1t.e convicted and finod 30/- o.nrl one guinea. coeiil.

Same date Constance Drewing wM fined :l.0/- o.nri one guim·a co.1ta.

On 30th August Corporal Fuller Wll-':. fined 101- nnd one guinea costs.

Same dnte )fiss Guinne was fined i16 1md one guinea COlllS.

Siune date H. Turner 1\"tl.S fined 20/ and om• guinei~ coots.

On 18th September o. pa..'lscng:er, D!\\'i~, was fined ·10/ :L111l ow~ guinta COOt.1=.

So.me date Corporal Beldwr wa'i fined ·101 uncl om· guinen co;;t.$.

On 29th ~eptcmhcr Webber w:L<J fined rJ/· n.nd OtHJ guinea COtil".

:-iamo dn.tc Gardiner was finocl :!0,- and two f:Uincru coiJta.

On 5th October F. E. T1.ylor we.'> flood 20/· n.n<l tw1) guiUL'M cc. .L~.

Sn.me dntc F. Fn.>eme.u wa~ fined 10/- anr1 OHH guinea co.-;t.s.

.\11 the e.lxn·c for frnudulcut trnvcllin1,C.

3421. Meetings, 1917.

The following date.~ were fixed for the (;l)unnitt<.'O'" mcetint,PM in 1917 .­

Fol1runry Htli, April l~lb,

July llt.11,

0LtOlK'r l 7th,

Dc"cmb~r l :!t'1, being Wcdocsdn.ys, at 2.30 p.m.

The Chnirmo.n of the last meeting: l:AJ call o.n interim mootm~ if it 1• considered necessary

(The meeting fixed for Dcccmher J :Hb, I a 16, i:-1 ca.ueellod.)

3422. Traffic Receipts.

The 6gures of Committee'~ l":a.rning~ are omittt~tl n!l tiwy hnvc not been cleared.

3423 . Bankers' P ass Books Su1nm.:nm, with Bankers' Ht.atcmcut, showing credit bnlo.nee.!I to <late:-

DcposH, Account

Current

.£8,000.

.£~.398 lk 3d.

3424. q h eques S1c:-.Ko for .£1,641 Bs. Id., Chc,1ucs for .£16,317 16s. Gd. (Wag~. lbtes, Gn.s, Maintenance. Rent of Lme, etc.) reported signed since last meeting.

w

T .ala. .'a..y_ 1 ~15

1.>o • ,., i 6

Wh1te=~p1l.

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3425. Return of Receipts and Passengers.

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