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Eco ICIDTwin Wall Insulated System Chimneydesigned for Stove Applications

Eco ICID LIT DOC/CP3/63 Issue 3 Jul 2012

NEW!

Diameters125-200mm

Now available inBlack Painted and

Stainless Steel Options

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Product DescriptionEco ICID is a Twin Wall Insulated System Chimney designed specifically for use on open or closed stoves with continuous operating temperatures of up to 450°C.

The system is designed so that the outer case is load bearing and the inner liner is free to expand independently, therefore thermal expansion is accommodated within each and every joint of the system.

Available in two versions with a choice of either a bright annealed or a matt black painted stainless steel outer case, Eco ICID is available in the following range of diameters:- 125, 150, 180 and 200mm.

Joint Design

• Manufactured under a Quality Management Scheme approved to BS EN ISO 9001: 2008• 4 Hour Fire Rating to BS476 Part 20• Certified for corrosion resistance on gas, oil and solid fuel by Gastec, MPA and TÜV• HETAS listed for use on solid fuel applications.

Eco ICID is CE Certified to EN1856-1 TÜV 0036 CPD 9195 010 with designations:

Approvals

Twist-lock bayonet jointing system. Secured by locking band.

Advanced corrosion resistant design and construction uses laser welded 316L stainless steel inner liner and stainless steel case.

The 25mm of high density rockwool insulation maintains flue gas temperature, maximising efficiency, improving flue draught on start up and minimising condensation.

Low external case temperature.

The inner liner is free to expand through the female collar, allowing for maximum thermal expansion even during a soot fire.

The inner liner has an inward bead at the female end which acts as a capillary break preventing moisture being drawn through the joint.

High Temperature Applications

T450 N1 W V2 L50050 G60T450 N1 D V3 L50050 G60

60mm Distance to combustiblesin a combustible shaft*

T450 N1 W V2 L50050 G50T450 N1 D V3 L50050 G50

50mm Distance to combustiblesin a non combustible shaft or in free air*

FuelFiring TempShort Firing TempThermal ShockMode of OperationPressure CapabilitiesFire RatingOuter Case (Standard)Outer Case (Option)Outer Case ThicknessSeamLinerLiner Thickness (mm)SeamInsulationInsulation ThicknessAverage ThermalResistance (200°C)

Wood, solid fuel450° C550° C1000° CZero & negative pressure40Pa4 Hour Fire Rating to BS 476 Part 20Stainless SteelPainted matt black0.5mmLaser or inert gas welded316L : 1.4404 : X2CrNiMo 17-12-20.5mmLaser or inert gas weldedHigh performance mineral fibre25mm0.4m2 k/W

Tecnical Data

The chimney size should be as recommended by the appliance manufacturer. Where there is a requirement for a flue diameter smaller than the appliance spigot, then the operational requirements of the appliance and the configuration of the flue must satisfy the flue sizing requirements of EN13384-1 for single appliances, and EN13384-2 for multi appliances.

CHIMNEY DIAMETER

CORROSION RESISTANCEChimneys are subject to significant corrosion attack by flue gas condensates, particularly from solid fuel. Eco ICID is specifically designed and manufactured to resist this corrosion.

*For full information refer to p.10 and p.11

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Typical Installations

INTERNAL HOUSECombustible Floors

INTERNAL BUNGALOW(VENTILATED LOFT SPACE)Combustible and Non-Combustible floors

INTERNAL HOUSENon Combustible Floors

EXTERNALSystem Chimney

Raincap (without mesh)DN8A142

Angled Flashing95510

Roof Support94640

Ventilated Firestop Plate94250

Ventilated Support PlateCombustible floor95260

Ventilated Firestop PlateCombustible floor Plate9423B

Stove Starter PipeDN8A149

Prima Smooth Connecting Flue Pipe

Combustible shaft

Protective wire mesh(required in loft space)

Taper TerminalDN8A038

Storm Collar95560

Uni-flash94540

Roof Support94640

Firestop Plate94250

Support PlateNon combustible floor95680

Firestop PlateNon combustible floor94670

Adjustable PipeDN8A009

Anchor PlateDN8A0D6

Non combustible shaft


Taper TerminalDNB8A038

Structural Wall Band9543B0

Structural Wall Band9543B0

Structural Wall Band Extension9544B0004

45˚ BendDNB8A017

Adjustable Top PlateDNB8A0D3

Cantilever Support9542B0001

135˚ TeeDNB8A137

Mitred Wall Sleeve 45˚94910

Raincap (with sparkguard)DN8A140

Angled Flashing95510

Roof Support94640

Stove Starter PipeDNB8A152

Prima Smooth Connecting Flue Pipe


Round BungalowFirestop Kit (unventilated)

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DimensionsThe dimensions of the flue are:

Product Ordering

To identify fully the component required it is necessary to state the product code followed by diameter as follows.• Quote the product code followed by the internal diameter. Eg. for a Ø 150mm 45° bend the code will be DN8A17150.• Codes starting with a number 9 are universal accessories common to a number of Schiedel Rite-Vent ranges and therefore require definition of the external diameter. eg, to specify a wall band 50mm to suit a 150mm Int Ø system, the external diameter is 200mm therefore the full code is 92940200.

FinishPaint - Eco ICID can be supplied painted in any RAL colour (additional costs apply)

(all article codes are for plain stainless steel version, for black painted codes refer to product ordering paragraph above)

Starting Components

A

A

Int Ø

B

C

A

Int Ø

3530

100

Int Ø

127

Int Ø

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm

125180

150200

180235

200256

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Appliance Connector (Open) Appliance Connector (Closed)

DN8A047DN8A144

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Adaptor Prima Plus to Eco ICIDAdaptor Prima Smooth to Eco ICID

S027PS027

PLAIN STAINLESS STEEL ITEMS

• On product codes commencing DN add the letter B immediately after DN e.g Ø150 Black painted 45° Bend the code will be DNB8A17150.• On Universal accessory codes the letter B is added immediately after the first 4 digits e.g on a wall band to suit a diameter Ø150 pipe, the code will be 9294B0200 and on a 475mm cantilever support the full code will be 9542B0002.

BLACK PAINTED ITEMS

Int Ø mmABC

125989849

15012311352

18014811352

20017811352

Insulated Increasing Adaptor DN8A136

Int Ø mmA

12598

150123

180148

200178

Uninsulated Increasing Adaptor DN8A143

42

C Ø

A

B

Int Ø mmABC

125300280123

150320300148

180355335178

200375356198

Anchor Plate DN8A0D6

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Adaptor Eco ICID to Prima PlusAdaptor Eco ICID to TecnoFlex

DN21133DN8A079

DN21133 A = 100DN8A079 A = 90

5

A Ø

473

50

A Ø

1073

50A Ø

1018

50

Pipes

Ext Ø

108

Tees

Length 1 Length 2 Part Code1500mm 1460mm DN8A1281000mm 960mm DN8A001500mm 460mm DN8A002300mm 293mm DN8A003200mm 160mm DN8A004

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Pipe

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Telescopic Pipe 215-310mm350-570mm

2 Piece - DN8A151 2 Piece - DN8A150

Int Ø mmAB

125246127

150329162

180354175

200394195

90˚ Tee including Tee Cap DN8A135

Int Ø mmABC

125336259259

150365283283

180414326326

200444351351

135˚ Tee including Tee Cap DN8A137

Tee Plug with Drain DN8A138

Int Ø mmA

12575

15077

18073

20078A

Int Ø

AB

C

Int Ø

A

B

B

Stove Starter Pipe 1073mm Eff.Stove Starter Pipe 473mm Eff.

DN8A152DN8A149

Int Ø mmA

125123

150148

180N/A

200N/A

Int Ø mmA

125N/A

150123

180N/A

200N/A

Increasing Stove Starter Pipe DN8A153

Int Ø mmA

125150

150200

180235

200256

Structural Locking Band DN8A092

L1

L2

Supplied as standard with all components with a female collar

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Locking Band DN8A083

Int Ø

A

B

C

D

Int Ø mmABCD

12546095260230

15046095260230

18046095260230

20046095260230

Inspection Length DN8A011

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Adjustable Pipe 50-230mm 1 Piece - DN8A009

Int Ø mm 125 150 180 200

Draught Stabiliser Section DN8A026

Eff. A

djus

tmen

t

Eff. A

djus

tmen

t

6

Int Ø mmAB

125389310

150425334

180497376

200532402

Offsets for 135˚ Tee and 45˚ Bend

B

A

B

A

Effe

ctive

Pip

e

B

A

Effec

tive P

ipe

B

Effe

ctive

Pip

eA

Int Ø mm1460 Eff. APipe B960 Eff. APipe B460 Eff. APipe B293 Eff. APipe B160 Eff. APipe B

1251623406114027665714749510436769

1501625406114227765914749710436970

1801628407114627766314850110537370

2001634407115127866814950710537971

15˚ Bend offset with Standard Pipe Length


12512871138933784580431462313367218

15013001143947790593436475318381224

18013281151974801621448503330408235

20013411160988807634453516335422241



12514947921061542628292483208368142

15015097961076546643296498212383146

18015207991087549654299509215394149

20015358031102553669303524219409153


Int Ø mmAB

1256355

1506356

1806356

2006457

15˚ Bend DN8A018

Int Ø mmAB

1257970

1508374

1809182

2009586

45˚ Bend DN8A017

Int Ø mmAB

125184139

150194149

180209164

200219174

90˚ Inspection Bend DN8A0A2

Int Ø mmAB

1256657

1507061

1807364

2007768

30˚ Bend DN8A019

Int Ø mmAB

125146137

150156147

180174165

200184175

90˚ Bend DN8A015

Bends

A

B

A

B

A

B

A

B

A

B

Typical Offsets

7

Int Ø mmAB

12523231

15023431

18023431

20023831

Offsets for 15˚ Bend

Int Ø mmAB

125254105

150268111

180295122

200309128


Int Ø mmAB

12523062

15024466

18025669

20027173


A

B

A

B

A

B

Offsets (made by assembling two bends)

Firestop Components

B

A

B

B

A

A

A

AB

BC

BC

A

A

Round Ventilated Firestop Plates(Combustible Floor)

1 Piece - 9423*2 Piece - 9424*

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm AB

125180183380

150200203400

180235241430

200256259450

* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain Galvanised Steel 9423P0 + Ext ØBlack Ral 9005 Matt 9423B0 + Ext ØWhite Ral 9016 Matt 9423W0 + Ext Ø

Ventilated Support Plate Rectangular VentilatedFirestop Plate(Combustible Floor)

2 Piece - 952602 Piece - 94250

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmABC

125180183380190

150200203400200

180235241430215

200256259450225

Firestop Plate(Non-Combustible Floor)

94670


125180450280

150200450300

180235450338

200256610356

Support Plate(Non-Combustible Floor)

95680

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmAB

125180330280

150200350300

180235388338

200256406356

Bungalow Firestop KitsBungalowRound Firestop Plate(Unventilated)

1 Piece - 9428*2 Piece - 9429*


125180183380

150200203400

180235241430

200256259450


BungalowSquare Firestop Plate(Unventilated)

1 Piece - 9430*


125180183380

150200203400

180235241430

200256259450


B

B

A

A

B

A

These unventilated fire stop plates may only be used on a combustible ceiling in a bungalow where there is a minimum 60mm distance to combustibles where the chimney penetrates the ceiling area and where the roof space above the ceiling is open and ventilated. Within the roof space, a protective wire mesh framework must be built around the chimney to ensure the minimum 60mm distance to combustibles is maintained.

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Cantilever Support Type 570 - 95420003

TypeØ RangeAB

570125-200

570330

BD C

E

A

Support Components

Int Ø mmABCDE

125276280240160140

150296300260180150

180334335298210168

200352356316230178

Top Plate DN8A0D3

Int Ø mmBCDE

125275160470100

150295180470100

180325210470100

200345230470100

Wall Support Side Plates DN8A0D2

B

D

C

E

B

A


125180180140

150200200150

180235238168

200256256178

Wall Band (50mm) 92940


12518015055

15020017055

18023520055

20025622055

Structural Wall Band (50mm) 95430

Adjustable Back Bracketfor Wall Band 60-300mm

95950

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA

125180112

150200132

180235162

200256186

Structural Wall Band Extension

W1 - 95440001L1 - 95440004L2 - 95440005

TypeAdjABC

W155-100

13036-

L1100-250

300-

32

L2100-440

450-

32

50

BA A

B

A

B

A

Cantilever SupportType 325 - 95420001Type 475 - 95420002

TypeØ RangeAB

325125-150

325242

475125-200

475242

Type W1

Types L1, L2

B

C

A

A

9

Support Components

Mitred Wall Sleeve 45˚ 94910

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA

125180300

150200320

180235358

200256376

Supplied as a 1m long mitred tube to be cut to length on site

Wall Sleeve 90˚ 94810

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA

125180300

150200320

180235358

200256376A

A

BA

BD

A C

330

330

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm

125180

150200

180235

200256

Roof Support 94640

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm

125180

150200

180235

200256

Guy Wire Bracket 95900

1 Piece Trim Collar 90˚ 9580*


125180184330

150200204350

180235242388

200256260406

* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain BA Stainless Steel 9580P0 + Ext Ø Black Painted RAL 9005 Matt 9580B0 + Ext Ø

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm ABCD

125180184259330454

150200204287350483

180235242341388536

200256260366406562

1 Piece Trim Collar 45˚ 9589*

* Codes and Finish OptionsPlain BA Stainless Steel 9589P0 + Ext ØBlack Painted RAL 9005 Matt 9589B0 + Ext Ø

10

A A

Uniflash

CodeExt Ø (mm)A

9454000180-200

500

94540002150-300

685

94540003250-450

800Universal EPDM rubber/aluminium flashing. Just pull the required diameter tab on the rubber seal

Flashings

Terminals

Distance to Combustibles (see p.11)

Angled flashing Kit 5˚- 45˚ 95510

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA

125180610

150200700

180235700

200256800

Flat Flashing Kit 95530

Int Ø mmExt Ø mmA

125180610

150200610

180235610

200256610

150

A A

50

AA

150

Raincap

with 10mm sparkguard DN8A145 with 25mm anti-bird mesh DN8A140

without mesh DN8A142

Int Ø mmAB

12526690

15026690

180362217

200362220

A

A

B

60mm

60mm

INTERNAL HOUSECombustible Floors

Fig 1 Fig 2

60mm

INTERNAL BUNGALOW(VENTILATED LOFT SPACE)Combustible and Non-Combustible floors

Int Ø mmExt Ø mm

125180

150200

180235

200256

Storm Collar 95560

Int Ø mmA

125200

150200

180204

200240

Insulated Tapered Terminal DN8A038

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InstallationThese notes should be read in conjunction with the detailed Eco ICID Installation Instructions.

MANDATORY REQUIREMENTSConnection to an appliance that is connected to the fuel supply must be carried out by a GAS SAFE (gas) or OFTEC (oil) registered installer. We recommend the use of HETAS approved installers for solid fuel applications. For full design and installation details the key referral documents are:

• BS EN 1856-1: Chimneys - System Chimney Products• BS EN 1859: Metal Chimneys - Testing Methods• BS EN 1443: Chimneys - General Requirements• BS EN 15287-1: Chimneys. Design, installation and commissioning of chimneys. Chimneys for non-roomsealed heating appliances.• BS 5440-1: Fluing and ventilation for gas appliances of rated input not exceeding 70kW net (1st, 2nd and 3rd family gases). Specification for installation of gas appliances to chimneys and for maintenance of chimneys.• Approved Document J: - Combustion appliances and fuel storage systems (England & Wales)• DFP Technical Booklet L: - Combustion appliances and fuel storage systems (NI)• Technical Handbook (Domestic & Non Domestic),Section 3 - Environment (Scotland)• Appliance Installation Instructions and related standards. Other standards covering specific applications will also be relevant and must be adhered to.

Planning permission may be required, and reference should be made to the local Building Control Department.

JOINTING SYSTEMAll joints in the Eco ICID chimney range, which require a locking band, are made by means of a simple twist lock jointing method. This is achieved by pushing together the male and female collars on each end of the main chimney components and twisting the components through 1/6 of a turn to lock the collars into place.It should be noted that the female collars on elbows and tees are not fluted in order to allow for these items to be positioned according to requirements on site. In all cases the joints should be held securely in place using the locking band, which is supplied with all components with a female collar.

Joints are not permitted within wall and ceiling spaces. Any flue pipe (i.e. single wall) connection to the chimney must be made in the same room as the appliance. The chimney must project at least 425mm below the ceiling. Where a chimney passes through a wall, a wall sleeve must be used to prevent damage to the chimney and the building.

CONNECTION TO APPLIANCEUse the appropriate appliance connector, sealing with fire rope and fire cement or high temperature sealant on solid fuel. The length of the inner liner can be trimmed where required to allow for thermal expansion within the appliance outlet spigot.

APPLIANCE REMOVALUse of an adjustable length immediately above the appliance enables removal of the appliance later without dismantling the full system.

INSPECTIONTo conform to Building Regulations, provisions should be made to enable a chimney to be inspected and cleaned. An inspection length or an insulated 90˚ or 135˚ Tee can form a suitable inspection point. To aid cleaning, sufficient distance should be left between changes of direction to permit the safe passage of cleaning brushes within the system. This is particularly important on solid fuel applications. It is recommended that chimneys serving solid fuel appliances be swept as frequently as necessary, but at least twice a year.

CHIMNEY DIAMETERThe chimney size should be as recommended by the appliance manufacturer and must satisfy the flue sizing requirements of EN13384-1 for single appliances, and EN13384-2 for multi appliances.

CHIMNEY ROUTEThe chimney should remain as straight as possible through its vertical run to assist flow. Should it be necessary to offset a chimney run then the following guidelines should be adhered to:It is recommended that a vertical run of at least 600mm should be allowed immediately above the appliance prior to any change of direction. Within a system, on all fuels, there should be no more than 4 changes of direction of maximum 45˚. 90˚ Factory made bends or tees within the system may be treated as being equal to two 45˚ bends (as per Document J of the Building Regulations issued October 2010)

ENCLOSURE/SHAFTSWith the exception of the room containing the appliance, where the chimney passes through any part of the building, where there is a risk of accidental human contact, i.e a bedroom etc., or where there is a risk of contact with combustible materials stored in a cupboard or in the roof-space, the chimney must be enclosed in an appropriate way to meet Building Regulations. This can be achieved by boxing in the chimney in habitable rooms, or by the use of a protective wire mesh frame in roof spaces etc. In all cases the minimum distance to any combustible material, including loft insulation, must be respected according to the table on p.2, and any enclosure should be ventilated using the appropriate ventilated fire stops (see p.7).

DISTANCE TO COMBUSTIBLES In accordance with building regulations its is essential that the correct distance to combustible material is maintained. On solid fuel applications, where there is a risk of soot fire, a distance of 60mm to combustibles must be maintained within a combustible floor and within a combustible shaft (see Fig.1 p.10). There is no need to line the area within the floor cavity with plasterboard; however the ventilated fire stop plate and ventilated support plate must be used.*

On gas and oil applications, a distance of 50mm to combustiblesmust be maintained within a combustible floor and within acombustible shaft. The ventilated fire stop plate and ventilatedsupport plate must be used.*

Where the chimney penetrates a non combustible floor and where a non combustible shaft is used, a distance of 50mm to the shaft is sufficient. In this case, non ventilated fire stops and non ventilated support plates may be used at first floor level with a ventilated fire stop being used where the chimney penetrates into the roof space.*

*On bungalow applications where the chimney runs through either a combustible or non-combustible ceiling, an unventilated bungalow fire stop plate kit can be used. Please note that an unventilated support plate can not be used above the ceiling in this case. The weight of the chimney should be supported using the roof support (see p.9). Distance to combustibles must be respected within the ceiling space (see Fig. 2 p.10) and mesh frame should be used within the loft space, which must be ventilated (see Fig. 2 p.10).

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Schiedel Chimney SystemsCrowther EstateWashingtonTyne & Wear NE38 0AQTel. +44 (0)191 416 1150Fax. +44 (0)191 415 [email protected]

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