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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII Page 2 of 26 Deborah King November 1, 2011 Copyright 2011, all rights reserved Jennifer McLean | Healing with the Masters | www.McLeanMasterWorks.com

Host Volume VIII | November 1, 2011 Guest

Jennifer McLean HEALINGWITHTHEMASTERS.COM Deborah King

Jennifer: Welcome, everyone, to Healing with the Masters. Masters, the word, means so much, but

while we may think of masters as the wonderful guests that share their knowledge and experiences with us each week, I consider you to be the master. Each of you in this audience, you, the participant. No one knows you better than you, and no one is more uniquely qualified to transform your life than you. Today we will together discover the tools and techniques to heal, to continue to shift your life and to love and light and, in the process, truly make a difference on this beautiful planet. Together we are a powerful community. You matter. You make the difference. You can light up the world.

Tonight, we’re going to light up each of our souls with a wonderful guest. Deborah King is

going to be on our show tonight. Now, Deborah is a healer. She is someone who has expanded her own world through her own interesting journey of life, and she has used her journey, she has used her beautiful process and insights in her own life to give us some remarkable insights on healing. Deborah is a powerful healer, and she wrote the book called Be Your Own Shaman. She’s a Hay House author and has guided thousands and thousands of individuals into discovering their own powerful healing abilities. We are so honored to have Deborah join us tonight and share these really cool insights and maybe even some secrets to the ancient traditions, that are now coming back to light, that she has tapped into. So welcome, Deborah King, to Healing with the Masters. It’s wonderful to have you here.

Deborah: Hey, it’s great, Jennifer. Thanks for having me. Jennifer: I really enjoyed your book, and it’s really uncanny. Your story, Deborah, kind of freaked me

out, because it’s my story, almost to a T, cervical cancer and all. It was really, really something. I so identified with your journey, because I had the same kind of journey, and I found my own healing modality after years of practice. I just love the way that you present your material through this remarkable, obviously deep insight from experience. So I want to start by just asking what is your definition of a shaman.

Deborah: Well, it’s a pretty broad one, Jennifer. I always say to people, “Do you expect that a shaman is

someone who dances around a fire and has a drum and maybe feathers in their hair?” It could be, but it’s just as likely that little old lady that you see coming out of church every Sunday, the one with the blue hair. She’s likely a shaman too, because really a shaman is someone who has dealt with their own stuff to such an extent that they’ve become a clear channel to such a degree, they can help others. They can actually use themselves as a vessel, through which they can receive a higher vibration from other spirits, other worlds and bring them in for others, for the benefit of others.

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Jennifer: So I would suspect that almost everyone listening to this show is a shaman. Deborah: They are. Jennifer: These people are working it. Deborah: That’s right. People who are listening are working it, and they are natural intermediaries

between this world and the spirit world. They’re natural‐born healers, every single one of them. They have all of this infinite wisdom already deeply encoded into their cellular memory. My job is just to help them wake up to it.

Jennifer: And you talk about your own story and how your own story formulated much of what you —

the gifts that you now have. I would love to hear about your story and, in turn, talk about this notion that you talk about in your book called the wounded healer.

Deborah: Well, it’s our stories that sustain us and make us who we are. We all love a good story, so

mine is probably like yours and millions of others. I thought I had all the answers when I was in my early 20s, and I thought I was happy actually. I have no idea why I concluded that, because I certainly wasn’t very present with myself and my feelings. I was Band‐Aiding everything with alcohol and valium, just sailing along. Then one day, like you, Jennifer, I woke up — at 25, actually, in my case, with cervical cancer, and I was like, “Whoa. What is this?” I stepped off my life, which was like some kind of a wheel that I was racing around on. I stepped off, and I looked back, and I realized that I didn’t really understand myself at all. So how could I determine what could have caused the cancer, because I didn’t know me?

I really stopped the process, and I began with a 12‐step program. I started in AA actually,

which was a terrific place to address my addictions. I was seriously addicted to alcohol and unknowingly addicted to valium, a very popular drug. This is a little more than 25 years ago. Once I got a handle on them — of course, you don’t make them go away. You learn to deal with it. Once I did that, I got a lot of clarity from that, and that inspired me to learn how to meditate. Meditation gave me even more clarity, and then I took up journaling, another process I’m always recommending to people. It gives them even more clarity. It wasn’t long before I was able to connect the dots between the emotions that I wasn’t addressing and my cancer. I learned a lot along the way, and I’m still connected.

I recommend to people that they do the same thing I did. Stay in touch with your traditional

medical practitioners. They have a place in this too. They have a role. Once a disease has manifested in the physical body, it’s pretty important to have everyone onboard, all the people that appeal to you in every field that could help you. So I stayed in touch with my doctors and bought a little time from the invasive surgery I was trying to avoid and started connecting with alternative practitioners and got further and further out there and one day met an energy healer and had a couple of amazing sessions and had a remission from cancer.

Jennifer: Wow. That must have been quite an amazing experience. Deborah: It was pretty mind blowing.


Jennifer: Well, you were a lawyer at the time, right? Deborah: Uh‐huh. Jennifer: So you were very much focused on the facts. Deborah: I was very linear, very skeptical. I insisted on button‐down proof of everything, pretty funny.

Yeah, this was a huge, huge joke on me. Jennifer: I need proof. Okay, here you go. And there you were, a 25‐year‐old lawyer that just basically

cured herself from cancer, although you have an interesting perspective on the difference between curing and healing that I’d love to chat about. So there you are, 25 years old, and it’s in remission. What do you do next?

Deborah: Well, I was so intrigued. I thought, “I’m just curious.” I just kept saying it. For years I would

say that to teachers. “I’m just curious. That’s why I’m devoting my life to studying this.” Jennifer: I used to say the same thing. I’m just curious. Deborah: Yeah. I’m not going to do this. I’m just curious, but I thought I would follow in the footsteps of

that energy medicine practitioner. I assumed that’s where I was headed, but before I called her up and got going on that, I stopped by my hospital for one last test to prove, get the facts. I was cancer‐free, and I was just coming out the door. I tripped over a kiosk on the curb, and as I fell down toward the ground, I saw the word healing on the flyers inside the thing. I grabbed a flyer and took it back to my hotel room and read it.

It was this seemingly church‐like organization, some kind of esoteric Christian group that

practiced, at a pretty profound level, healing. I had to discard all my pre‐existing beliefs, a very negative mindset at that time about religion, like a lot of other 20‐somethings. I had thrown the baby and the bathwater and the whole thing out one day, and I talk a lot about blending beliefs in my book, Be Your Own Shaman, because it really does significantly slow us down. So I discarded those, and I hooked up with this group. I stayed ten years. I learned the most amazing healing techniques from them, and I ultimately very sadly left, because I wanted to learn hands‐on healing, which was not something that they practiced.

I did a complete 180 and went over and started studying at an energy medicine school, a

chakra‐based, in the Hindu tradition, school. The first day I was there, the teacher’s looking at me across the room, and she goes, where did you learn to do that distance healing. I said, “Oh, that?” I said, “Where we come from, they call that prayer.” Funny.

Jennifer: Distance healing you started getting into. One of the things that I enjoy about your story and

stories like this is that you were inextricably nudged to the next. There weren’t any real accidents, were there?

Deborah: No. Everyone’s life is like that, Jennifer. Every single one of your listeners, if they look at their

life, they’ll see the very same thing. They think that that period they spent doing X was a mistake, but it isn’t. It’s something they need for the journey. So I look back, and I know that the years I spent as a lawyer are actually incredibly important to me now, because I really do


know how to utilize linear, logical, left‐brain thinking. It’s extremely important, actually, in healing.

Jennifer: Why is linear thinking — I’m curious. Why is linear thinking important in healing? That’s

interesting. Deborah: Because when I teach someone to be an effective healer, I teach them — especially if they’re

going to teach it, I teach them how they have to be able to go back and forth between mind, which is your left brain and your linear, cognitive side, and no mind, which is your intuitive, more right‐brain side, and how to develop the corpus callosum, which is the part of the brain through which we pass going back and forth. The better and the faster and the more connected you can access these two sides, the better your healing will be on yourself or someone else, which leads me to a related point, which is the very best, strongest and fastest way to develop that capacity is to meditate.

Jennifer: So meditation opens up the corpus callosum and gets you in touch with the no mind. Deborah: It connects the two parts of the brain, much more so than they come out of the box. So what

we don’t realize is that spirit designed us to meditate. There are four states of consciousness, not like we Westerners think. There are three. So we say, “Oh, yeah. We’re either awake or asleep, or we’re dreaming. That’s it.” No, no. There’s a fourth one. It’s called meditation, but we don’t teach our children to meditate. We’re the only culture around that’s failed in this regard, and I’m a huge proponent of it. It’s the most life‐changing thing you can do for yourself. As you know — aren’t you carrying my little meditation workshop on your page?

Jennifer: Yes, yes. We are actually. That’s part of your special offer. Deborah: Wonderful, because I’m always urging people, “Please, learn to meditate.” If you’re not

happily meditating every day, then there’s something wrong with your practice. Trash it. Get a new one. Let me teach you. I love to teach it. I can teach you very effectively. You’re on your couch. I’m on your screen. Give me an hour of your time, and you will know how to meditate. I’ll give you your own mantra. I’ll give you one that I’ve personally chosen for you that will totally take you through the gap in your thoughts.

The problem, Jennifer, is we think we’re thinking all the time. People say to me, “Oh, I can’t

meditate. My mind’s just racing, and it’s just one thought after another.” Actually there are these little, tiny gaps between them, and a properly chosen sea sound or mantra. One that’s chosen for you by a qualified teacher can take you through that gap and into this vast force field that surrounds us, that we need to access every day, because when we’re there, it clears all our stress, recharges and balances us and gives us wisdom. So we come out of the thing. We just feel good. We go take a shower or take a walk or cook breakfast, and all of a sudden, we have this great idea. We have that great idea because we were just connected to the big board for just a moment.

Jennifer: I was interested when you say trash it. I like this notion, because this is something I’m often

telling people. If it’s not working, try something else. It doesn’t mean that all meditation is bad. It just means that particular form isn’t working for you.


Deborah: Right. Isn’t that Dr. Phil’s famous saying? How’s that working for you? Jennifer: How’s that working for you? Exactly. Deborah: Fantastic. So many people learn to, for example, follow their breath, and they go, “Well, that

doesn’t work for me.” Well, let me tell you why. How many million people are there on the planet today? You’re not going to have much luck following your breath. We’re too congested. There’s too much difficult energy to deal with. They’re enmeshed, cross‐coursing and crossing through your body. The freeways probably not more than ten minutes from where you’re living. I mean, I’m living, when I’m in my home in Malibu, I’m just spitting distance to 12 million people. That’s a lot of humanity, and that’s a lot of energy. The way to stay balanced and clear is to meditate, and then it’s just as if you are living on that mountain top in serene silence, where we used to be able to just focus on our navel or focus on our breath. So I do encourage people, if you learned a format that just isn’t penciling for you now, go get a new one. It’s not any criticism of your old one. It’s just not working for you.

Jennifer: Right, and this notion that you get to experiment, right — you do experiment. Deborah: You do. Jennifer: For years you experimented with different healing modalities, and then you eventually came

up with your own. Deborah: True. Jennifer: So that’s what all of us can do on this. That’s what all of us have the opportunity to do. That’s

our life journey, isn’t it? Deborah: It is, and for each person, it’ll be different. Each person has to listen to their own inner

guidance, and that inner guidance comes through really clearly, not during your meditation, because nothing’s coming through at that moment. But after, you’ll have these great ideas, and that’s your higher self talking to you and saying, “No, Jennifer. Don’t go to that city. Go to this city.”

Jennifer: Right, and until we clear that space between the no mind and the mind and open that corpus

callosum, it’s hard for us to hear those divine whispers, isn’t it? Deborah: It is. Jennifer: You talk about people’s stories, and you mentioned briefly, just a moment ago, that there’s a

divine plan, that everything will serve your higher purpose, and at the same time — we didn’t quite get to the Wounded Healer. I’d like people to understand this process. I found it really affirming and hopeful to know that nothing I have done is wasted, so to speak. So tell us a little bit about this notion of the Wounded Healer and that we are on the path we’re supposed to be on. And what are we supposed to do with our story? That’s a lot of questions.

Deborah: I’m thinking that what I’m going to say right now, you’re all going to nod and go, “You know

what? I already knew that.” I think we all instinctively know that what almost kills us makes


us stronger, so what wounds us is of great value to us. It makes us who we are and brings out our very best qualities, and what I’ve noticed — and I’ve worked with thousands and thousands of people at this point — is that the more problems you have, the more opportunity you have. It’s always the one who’s most wounded who becomes the most gifted.

Jennifer: Wow. So we can use these moments. What do you recommend when we’re in the midst of

it? I hear from so many of the Healing with the Masters community about the real horrific circumstances of their life right now. Some people are about to lose their homes. Some people are actually living in their cars right now. Some people have cancer. When we’re at that moment, that point where the manifestation feels almost too real, what do you recommend?

Deborah: Well, it’s so hard to know whether or not you are surrendering, because people have a hard

time figuring out if they’re giving up too soon and just flopping down on the carpet and going, “I give up. I give up. I can’t get a job,” and they aren’t really looking, or in fact whether nature has designed this experience for them of being jobless or homeless or stricken with a serious illness. It’s a very fine line to walk. You have to honor each person’s passage through that process and try to help them.

I would urge anyone who’s in that particular spot to start meditating. That would be my first

and most thought‐out advice. That would give them the best opportunity to connect to their higher self. Their higher self is really, really wise, and to hear those wise thoughts and know where should I go next, what should I do next, the answer is usually within. So again, I turn back to meditation. It’s the most life‐changing thing I’ve ever done for myself. I’ve done some fairly incredible things, but nothing rises to the height of that.

It seems so simple. I remember the day I learned, sitting on the couch with my meditation

teacher, who taught me the same way that I teach people now. It seemed so simple, and I thought, “Well, no big deal. I’ll do it just like he taught me.” I’m really good at following directions. That’s one thing I can say about myself. I am. About a week later, I stepped out on my porch to drive away, and for the first time, I noticed this amazing flower bed at my feet. I was just riveted by these flowers, and then I realized — I had planted them maybe a year or two before, had forgotten all about them in the process of having a — my husband was in very, very serious condition from an accident and was not expected to live, and the last thing I thought about was flowers. All of a sudden, I saw them so clearly, and I realized it was the meditation. It had actually lifted me to a whole different spot in a week. This was just in a week. It’s pretty impressive.

Jennifer: A whole new place of awareness. Deborah: So they’re subtle. It is a whole new place to live from. Jennifer: Would you be open to giving us just a couple of tips on — for those who might not be able to,

at this time, go for your offer, which I strongly recommend if you can. Do it, but for those of us who can’t, do you have a couple of tips on where to start in the meditation practice?

Deborah: I do. I would suggest to listeners to first of all check out the meditation offer I have on

Jennifer’s page, because I’ve really tried to make it available to absolutely everyone in the


world, and then you can also swing over to my Facebook page, Deborah King, and look there. I have some great tips there on some meditative‐like practices that are free and easy, for the taking. Some of them take as little as five minutes a day. I won’t go into them at length here, but just swing over to my Facebook page and take a look. I think there are about seven of them, and they’re really easy things you can just stick in your pocket and use when you need to.

Jennifer: Okay. So go over to Deborah King on Facebook, and you can get some more tips there. So tell

us a little bit about journaling. Deborah: Well, I cover journaling there. Journaling is such an easy thing that everybody ought to have it

in their toolbox. Jennifer, you want to think that you’re literally walking around your house or your town or wherever you stroll around with a toolbox. Maybe keep it in your laptop case or in your purse or whatever you throw over your shoulder, your book bag, whatever. You should always have tools you can whip out and use at that moment. So for example, journaling has been a lifelong tool for me that I adopted back then when I was trying to figure out why I had cancer and how to get rid of it. It’s so simple. You can spend as little as five minutes a day. That’s usually as much time as I have to devote to it. You should always pick a time, so you always journal after dinner, or you always journal during your lunch hour. Dedicate a time to it, or you will forget. It doesn’t matter what you write on. It could be your laptop. It could be a pen on a watermelon. It does not matter. You do have to write, though. You can’t sit there and think.

The reason is journaling is actually an act of taking your unprocessed emotions and processing

them through your arms and out your hands. That’s why you want to be using your hands to write or type, and the way it works is you do it as quickly as you can. You pick a topic and say, “Okay, it’s time to journal. It’s lunchtime. I’m going to talk about that outrageous phone call I had earlier today with that neighbor that’s so demanding,” or, “I’m going to write about the divorce I haven’t really recovered from,” or my mother’s death ten years ago or whatever crosses your mind. As fast as you can, as feverishly as you can, you spill out the sentences. No punctuation needed. No spell checking please. No posing, wish I felt better about this or didn’t feel so petty or so jealous about my sister. Just really be who you are. Get those words down on paper, and you will literally be processing your unconscious. That’s the key to it. It helps you access deeper thoughts and emotions and clear them. It actually clears them, so it is an effortless, no‐cost tool, such a simple one you should always keep handy in your backpack.

Jennifer: Yeah. It’s a powerful tool for transformation. It’s so interesting, because the areas [sic] that

you’re talking about that people can do to change their entire life and their circumstances are super simple.

Deborah: They are. Jennifer: But they’re not necessarily easy, are they? Deborah: Well, I don’t remember thinking that back then. I mean, just like your listeners, I was dealing

with, I thought, some pretty heavy‐duty problems. I mean, cancer’s not simple. Addiction, especially dual addiction, is not simple. I was also secretly aware of the fact that I’d been horribly sexually and emotionally abused as a child and didn’t want to deal with that either. So


I had a few skeletons rattling around there, but there’s nothing like a big motivator like cancer, as you know, as you yourself know. It does get you off your duff, doesn’t it?

Jennifer: It does indeed. In fact, just about any of these drastic life circumstances are really getting a lot

of people. Deborah: They’re wake‐up calls. They are. Jennifer: That’s why they’re here listening to you. Deborah: Yeah, and people say later, “It’s the best thing that ever happened to me.” People are like,

“Cancer? You’re kidding.” The answer is, “No, no. It was.” I’ll have clients tell me, “I quit my job because of it, and now I’m so free. I’m in this other job. I always wanted to help people. Now I am,” et cetera, et cetera. It’s amazing how these things can really change us up for the better. In the moment, it doesn’t really seem like that. It seems pretty horrific.

Jennifer: Yeah. It seems like it’s going to crush us. Deborah: Especially with all the economic problems people are experiencing today, and I am so aware of

that. People are really going through rough times, and it’s hitting us all. There isn’t one of us that isn’t feeling it.

Jennifer: Yeah. Do you think that we’re in a special time? Deborah: I do. I do indeed. I think that these times are — I’ll tell you what I’ve noticed. This is really

pretty amazing. One of the things I do best is something that in the West is called an initiation, and that’s a shorthand way of saying that you’re ready for a spiritual step up, a higher level. I’m not talking about the first two levels, which you can have on your own. The hallmark of the lower‐level initiation is you appreciate animals and wildlife and trees and shrubs. Most people who are listening will go, “Yeah, that’s me. I appreciate that.” So that means you’ve already accomplished the second initiatory level. It’s three and up that require a facilitator, and it was clear, from very early on, even when I was working with the esoteric Christians, that I had somewhat of a knack for that. All it means is that part of you is trying to access and enter you so you can manifest it, so you can be that braver person, or maybe you’re meant to be incredibly loyal. That’s a quality that you’re willing to bring into this lifetime, and you just need help doing it.

What I’ve noticed is people used to have, at most, one or two in a lifetime, of those initiations,

and since the year 2000, Jennifer, I’ve seen people who can have four or five a year. Pretty amazing stuff, and my belief is that nature spirit is sensing our need for a higher consciousness and is making it possible, just speeding the whole thing up. We’re all on a time warp. The whole thing is very revved up.

Jennifer: So we’re in an accelerated pace right now. It’s interesting, because I don’t know anyone —

you’re right — who doesn’t have many, many, many big, big, big life events happening concurrently.

Deborah: Right, concurrently. I know. It’s outrageous, isn’t it?


Jennifer: It’s really something. I would like to hear a little bit more about these initiations. What are

the different initiations, and what’s the first one? The second one, you said, was the animal, and what are the last three?

Deborah: Well, I can’t tell you what the last three are, because I haven’t been there myself. I can tell you

where I’ve been and what I know about those that are beyond my own experience. It’s one of my favorite topics, and my New York Times bestselling book, Be Your Own Shaman covers it in depth. So if you’re interested in this subject, you’ll want to grab a copy off Amazon, the best place to get a copy of Be Your Own Shaman, and read that. I’ve truly always been fascinated with this topic.

I’ll tell you, the first one I ever saw, I was sitting in the back of a church, minding my own

business, watching a healing ceremony up front. I don't know what that minister was doing with that gal. All of a sudden, I was thrown to my knees by some feeling of devotion and great love. I thought, “What is happening?” I finally turned to the gal sitting next to me, and I said, “What’s going on?” She said, “Oh, that’s an initiation.” So I went home, and I started to read about them, both in Christian literature. Then I branched the field, and I read about them everywhere. East or West, no matter what they’re called — in the East, by the way, they’re usually called Kundalini rising. That’s probably an expression you’ve heard and probably not heard the word initiation, which is more Western. You’ll find that more in the Christian tradition, but it’s all the same stuff. It’s pretty interesting, and as I said, the first and second levels, one learns to look outside one’s self and not be totally ego‐driven. Ego‐driven is not the right word. We’re survival‐driven. It’s a survival mentality.

When you get into the second level, you start to look around and go, “Oh, my God, there are

other people, and there’s nature to appreciate.” That’s the hallmark of the second level, and then from three on up, it’s very individual. They’re harder to have happen than one would think. They require a fair amount of preparation. When someone approaches me, I can sense whether or not they’re ready for one. That’s the very first thing I sense about somebody, is their level and are they ready for the next level. I never tackle it unless I’m positive I feel readiness, because forcing one on someone is quite dangerous for them and can really screw them up and keep them from having it.

Jennifer: I have heard horror stories about Kundalini that’s been opened up way too soon. People have

gone crazy practically. Deborah: Yeah. For those who are listening, really choose your facilitator with great care, because that’s

a big thing. You never want to have that happen to you, have someone force it on you. I just came back from an event just this last weekend, where I probably initiated half the people in the room. That’s kind of my average, about 50 percent. Sometimes I’ll lift a whole room on really good day. There’s enough energy in the room. Well, I’ll tell you, Hay House events are famous for that. So for those of you who are listening and may be able to come to Hay House’s campus event, even if you watch it on a live feed, there’s a strong chance you might be initiated.

I’ve had a lot of people tell me they get initiated from working through live stream, which is

fascinating if you think about it. That live stream link, by the way, is available on my website:


Deborahkingcenter.com I know we’ve got a Hay House live stream link hooked up there, and it’s a veritable bargain. I’ll

tell you that. Hay House has done a good job on that. So initiations don’t feel like much on the lower levels, but the higher they are, Jennifer, the more physical they are, really a big surprise to me. I thought it was going to be some spiritual thing, where you might hear chimes or organs or something like that, but in fact, they’re very physical and quite orgasmic.

Jennifer: Huh. Deborah: Yeah, and I get little secret emails from people, anonymous. Miss Anonymous will write and

go, “I just don’t understand. It just felt so sexual.” I write back, and I go, “No, no. That’s the real McCoy,” because when that energy comes up, your vertical power current, it comes right past your genitals. It can be quite inspiring.

Jennifer: Yeah. “Inspiring.” So there’s really — it’s interesting. Do you see that there’s — what role

does the body have to play in our spiritual journey here on this planet, do you think? Deborah: Oh, that answers it, doesn’t it? It has a huge role to play, and of course we’d all like to go back

to the year — what is it, around 1200 or 1500 with Saint Teresa of Avila. Oh, no, the body doesn’t matter at all. We should quash — well, hey, you don’t have to go that far back. Just listen to Mother Teresa. She was very anti‐body. The body should be denigrated, as opposed to exalted. Actually the body needs to be exalted. We need to really — I hate to say this, because this is what our mothers taught us. Your body is a temple. A lot of people’s parents, at least, said that, and it’s true. It’s true. So the body plays an incredibly important role here.

Jennifer: So how do we exalt the body then, in this process, in our life’s journey and our journey to

either be a healer or just a spiritual being? Deborah: We take as good care of it as we can without becoming obsessed by it. Jennifer: Ah‐ha. There’s the fine line again. Deborah: Yeah, I know. It’s all about balance, isn’t it? So we don’t want to get obsessed with what we

eat. It doesn’t have to be vegetarian. It doesn’t have to be anything. It just has to be the best, nice, clean food you can get without breaking the bank and killing yourself. Your exercise just has to be enough where you feel good, where you’ve got some outdoor time. It doesn’t have to be Olympic quality. Meditation doesn’t have to be all day. I’m only asking for 20 minutes, and I’ll tell you when to do it. Tools are really simple. Consistency and dedication are the key factors.

Jennifer: Yeah. I think that’s so important, because I did this too. I overdid it. When I first started all

this stuff, I always felt like, “Well, if ten minutes is really good, then five hours must be fantastic.” If a cleanse for two days is really good, then ten days must be amazing.

Deborah: Right. You think you may have a tiny bit of addiction going on there?


Jennifer: No, not at all. I don’t know what you’re talking about. Deborah: Oh, me either. Jennifer: But that’s the opportunity, I think, on all of our journeys. I certainly found a much bigger

measure of balance, and I communicate, like you’re talking about. Communicate with your body. Ask your body. We get to ask, don’t we?

Deborah: We do. These things all seem simple once you’ve been meditating for a few years and have

some other tools in your toolbox. They’ll all seem incredibly simple, and you’ll wonder why you felt such anxiety and why you were so worried about getting that dreaded disease or whatever. Meditate long enough regularly, and all of that just passes by. Then you just feel fine all the time.

Jennifer: Yeah, you really do. I mean, life doesn’t stop showing up, though, right? Deborah: No. Life just keeps — Jennifer: You just feel differently about what shows up. Deborah: I tell people, meditate and you’ll just float above it a little bit. It’s not that it’s not still ongoing

down there. It is. Those same problems just keep coursing in, but you’ll have a different perspective on them. It’s all about perspective.

Jennifer: Yeah, perspective and balance. Let’s talk a little bit more about healing itself, and what do you

recommend if someone is looking to develop their own unique gift of healing? What should they be — and are interested — what kind of questions should they be asking themselves if they’re interested in becoming a healer or using their current healing capabilities and expanding them?

Deborah: Well, I would just urge them to get more tools. I would say check out some healers and see

what they have to offer and learn from them, because there’s so much to learn, and most of it you will find is already programmed into your cellular memory. It’s just a question of reawakening it. That was my own experience, and that’s my students’ experience. They all go, “Oh, yeah. This just comes so natural to me.” I go, “Because it’s already in your cellular memory.” You knew how to do these things. We all knew how to do these things thousands of years ago. We just temporarily put the information aside, but it’s in our bodies. It’s probably also in the collective unconscious. Jung’s collective unconscious is probably a good description for the area where we share all this information. We used to all be clairvoyant. We used to all be telepathic, used to be able to talk to the trees and talk to the animals and heal ourselves and one another, and we just temporarily misplaced it. I talk about that quite a bit in my first book, Truth Heals.

Jennifer: You also talk about, in this book, about using animals to expand your gift, which I think was the

second initiation, as well. How do we do that? How do we communicate with them, and how can they assist us?


Deborah: Well, anybody who’s had any contact with their own pet or their family’s pet or their neighbor’s pet, they know that they can sense what that dog or cat is saying. You just literally chime in, and you get on that wavelength. You’ll find out that you can talk to them. You can hear what they’re saying, and you can help them. They’re there, of course, to help us, so they’re thrilled when we turn around and give a little bit back. So they’re extremely healing to engage with.

Jennifer: So when we engage with them, we’re actually tapping into some of that mind/no mind. Is that

the idea as well? Deborah: We are, and we’re especially tapping into the no mind. In fact, my experience with horses was

one of the biggest teaching moments I ever had in stepping up my own healing abilities, was working with horses. I really took quite a segue into the horse world at one point and spent about 15 years just deeply studying the horse. I still remember the first time I was on my first horse. His name was Influence. I still have him. He’s pretty elderly now. We’re clip clopping along. I’ve had him about a week, and we’re out in the sage, in the desert, and all of a sudden, I heard him clearly say to me, “It’s too hot, and my feet hurt.” I like jumped off, looked him in the eye, and he’s standing there with this twinkle in his eye, and he’s laughing at me. He goes, “Okay, so finally you can hear me. I said it’s too hot.” He has quite a sense of humor.

Jennifer: So we get to use that, then, to maybe extend our consciousness, and then how do we apply it

to other areas of our life? How do we then use that to maybe extend our own unique gifts? Deborah: Well, you’ll find that it’ll just sort of self‐expand. You won’t need to do anything linear with it.

It will just manifest. You’ll find that you’re using the things that you learned down at the dog shelter or playing with your cat or, in my case, with my horses, you’ll start using it in your life, and you’ll recognize it later. You’ll go, “Oh, I learned that from that experience.” It’ll happen more intuitively. It’s much more of a right‐brain thing.

Jennifer: That’s part of that divine plan that we talked about a little bit earlier. Deborah: Right. Jennifer: It just expands naturally. I would love to talk about the five practices that enable us to be a

clear channel for ourselves and others. We talked about two of them already, journaling and meditation. So there are three left. What are they, and how do we use them?

Deborah: Well, there’s so many things that we can do. I’m not sure which three you’re referring to. Jennifer: Sorry. I’m referencing a specific page. On page 86, you talk about journaling, meditation,

prayer, forgiveness and being of service. Deborah: Ah. Okay. For listeners, I would urge them, again, if they’re curious about these items, they

can get more information about them from Deborah King on Facebook. If you like the page, all of this stuff will just download for you. I’m going to defer on prayer for a minute, but forgiveness, that’s a big one, and it’s really critical that it’s a piece we have. It’s a really hard thing to teach. I’m going to be tackling it at my workshop in Carmel in December. I’m really going to be teaching it there, but the shorthand version is it’s not so much about forgiving


other people. It’s usually about forgiving yourself. That’s usually what I find, where people are kind of hung up on the forgiveness thing, is they can’t forgive themselves. They’re often unaware of that, so there I would suggest journaling to develop awareness, self‐awareness, and pick up those tips I have on Facebook about — there’s a forgiveness exercise that I offer there, that I won’t go through here, Jennifer. It’s a little long, but it works really, really well.

Then another topic that I think people often really need help with is learning how to get out of

themselves or, what I call, pay it forward. I’ve never met a happy person that was really wrapped up in themselves. It’s just not a way to be happy. So if you’re really focused on others all day long, and whatever that mean for you — it could mean your children, your grandchildren, the people at work, the art project you’re on. Lots of times it’s someone’s job that’s really got their focus, and they’re helping the world by the productive things they’re doing at work, truly. That’s how most of us manifest our gifts and pay it forward. This is what we’re doing, and that’s why we’re happy during the day. People who are thinking about those sorts of things all day are really happy, whereas people who are worried about their arthritis or their cancer diagnosis, they aren’t going to be very happy. So I really encourage people to get outside themselves and to always be looking for opportunities, big and small, every day to pay it forward.

Then that takes us to prayer. That’s a really big topic that I’m tackling in a four‐part series on

Hay House Radio, starting in a couple of weeks, that I talk about, again — well, you can certainly find it on Hay House, of course, but also on my website:

Deborahkingcenter.com Just click on the link there, and you’ll see all the topics I’m going to cover. It’s a very big

subject. I do think it’s going to take me four weeks to really teach people how to pray. I don’t think people know how to pray. I don’t think they have a clue about how to manifest what they want, when they want it, and that’s going to be the near goal. The far goal will be — and we’ll get there in the fourth week. We’ll be teaching people how to get into a very expanded state of awareness, akin to meditation, but it’s somewhat different, where you’re in a state of exaltation. It’s a very amazing place to be, and it makes you feel spectacular, spectacularly happy. I can’t really — I can describe it. I can’t explain it in this brief period of time, but it’s what really prayer is all about.

There are a couple of old‐timers who had it completely wired. I mentioned Saint Teresa of

Avila a minute ago. She would be my biggest connection here, but the esoteric Christians I worked with years ago were also quite adept at it and did it quite differently. So I’ll teach both approaches, and you can pick the one that works for you. So it’s a very big topic, and it’s quite interesting how it intersects with healing but isn’t quite the same but keeps crossing over in different places.

Jennifer: Right. I like this notion of how important service and prayer are. I mean, they’ve certainly

been the template for my expansion, and I’ve seen so many people when they start using that practice of service and then participating in prayer. I know there’s many ways to do prayer. I mean, you had ten years of that prayer work, didn’t you?

Deborah: Yes.


Jennifer: There’s some nuances within that. Deborah: It was so interesting, because there I was being led by what looked like those two blue‐haired

elderly ladies that I was referring to earlier. I just couldn’t fathom how amazingly connected they were to source and how incredibly happy they were too, leading very simple lives, all lived to be 100 to 103, very simply lives. They didn’t need much.

Jennifer: And it’s not that we have to live a simple life, but life can be simple, can’t it? Deborah: Uh‐huh. Jennifer: So tell me about the template of perfection. Deborah: What I want to tell you about, actually, is a little bit similar but on a whole different

wavelength. I want to tell you about a clearing bath that I think your listeners would really resonate with.

Jennifer: Yeah, yeah. That would be great. Deborah: Yeah. This is something they could do tonight. All they have to do is stop by the store for a

moment. So many people ask me, “What do I do when I feel whacked out? I feel like I’ve had an unpleasant encounter with someone or something.” So it could be that jerk at the 800‐number that told you off this morning or your mother‐in‐law or the guy at work. It could be anything. It doesn’t have to be today, but it should be something in the last week, so it’s fresh in your field. It’s low‐level. This isn’t rape or some hideous thing, but this is a small but very annoying item, and you just don’t feel quite right about it. The thing to do is take a bath, and here’s how. It’s so simple.

You get a pound of baking soda and a pound of sea salt, and you don’t have to write this down.

I’ve got this front and center on my Facebook page, these exact directions on how to do this. It’s also, Jennifer, in Be Your Own Shaman. I can’t tell you where right now, but I know it’s in the book. So there you are, standing at the edge of the bathtub. You’ve got a full tub of nice, warm water, not too hot, or it’ll drain you. You pour in the sea salt and the baking soda. You hop in. You mix it nicely, and you hang out for 20 minutes. You will exit the bath feeling fresh and clean, and you are indeed, because it actually clears your field, and here’s how. It mimics two things that we could do outside if it were convenient. If you took all your clothes off and went outside and laid in the sun for 20 minutes, you’d get the same effect, but it’s probably dark, or you live in the city and don’t want to get arrested.

Jennifer: There’s that. Deborah: Or you could jump in the ocean and swim for 20 minutes in nice clear water, clean water, and

that probably isn’t going to work either for most listeners. So this bath is just the ticket. It’s so easy. It’s so available. You just need a bathtub. You can’t really do this in a shower. I’ve tried it. It doesn’t work quite right. You really do need to actually soak in the sea salt and the baking soda.


Don’t make the mistake I made one day when I was traveling through Germany and mispronounced — my German’s not great — mispronounced it, and I’m going back to the hotel with a product other than baking soda. I won’t confuse you by telling you what it was, just to say that it made a big — like cement in the tub. It probably took a crane for the poor hotel owner to get it out. So it’s baking soda and sea salt, and that’s all, a pound of baking soda, pound of sea salt. Needs to be the real sea salt and any kind of baking soda.

Jennifer: And it’s not Epson salt. Deborah: No. It’s not Epson salt. That’s a whole different thing. Also very healing but for a whole

different kind of thing. This is for your energy field. Jennifer: So this is clearing your energy field, a pound of baking soda and a pound of sea salt. Great.

Wow. I’m going to do it tonight. Maybe I won’t turn the jets on in the bathtub, though. Deborah: No, I wouldn’t. Actually, I don’t think you want this necessarily jetted. I’m not sure about that,

but it’s not feeling like quite the right thing. Jennifer: No. It feels like it would be almost too much energy. So I’d like to talk about love. You gave

me a good question here. What’s love got to do with it? Deborah: Love has everything to do with it. I mean everything, and it’s taken me a lifetime of work to

find that out. So I’m pretty intrigued with realizing that. I’m just going to say I’ve realized that here in the last, maybe, five years, that that’s actually what’s making the whole thing tick. It’s what makes healing happen. The trick is to figure out how to give unconditional love. I’m a work in progress on that. It’s very difficult to do, as we all know. We want to condition it. We want to say, “I’ll love you if —” to our son or daughter. You bring in some good grades, or you make your bed. We say to our partner, “I want to love you if you bring home the bacon.” Our love is very conditioned.

Healing of the self and others is all about unconditional love, and I’m really, really encouraging

everyone to think about really loving themselves, really giving up all of those criticisms of yourself. Ditch them now. You are perfect the way you are. You are just beautiful in the eyes of nature, because you remember you incarnated to be exactly who you are, just as you are. Such a beautiful concept. You don’t have to do anything. Just be who you are, in all your glory and all your idiosyncrasies, and nature, the whole spirit world will really resonate with that and will start to validate your idiosyncrasies. So they will choose things that are very unusual about you, and they’ll magnify them and make them your most important qualities. People will start to say, “Oh, the thing I really like about Jennifer the most —” I’ll tell you what I first noticed, Jennifer, meeting you today, was your voice. You have an incredible quality to your voice. It’s very beautiful to listen to.

Jennifer: Oh, wow. Cool. Deborah: Yeah. No, I mean, it really knocked me over. I had not heard you speak before, so that’s

something that the spirit world has actually given you, and look how you’re maximizing it. You’re actually using it. Now, some of your listeners may not be. They may have some quality they’re hiding under a bushel, not like you, in exploring the whole capacity of this gift they’ve


been given. So I really encourage people to look within and figure out what you’re best at, whatever it might be, and then really start to use it. And don’t be afraid. Don’t be embarrassed. Don’t care what people think. If you do the best cartoons ever, you have this incredible drawing gift or whatever, then expand it, because it’s been given to you, and it’s meant to be used. You’ll like yourself. You’ll love yourself. So again, it’s all about love.

Jennifer: We give away $250 cash every show, and we like to highlight one of the phrases that will stick,

so love is all — what did you just say? It’s all love. Deborah: It’s all about love. Jennifer: It’s all about love. That is our phrase that pays today. It’s all about love. Such an important —

the nuance — there’s the love between each of us, and then there’s this other kind of universal love. What would you say the difference is between the love like you were describing — I love it when you do something versus just that sense, that kind of energy signature of love?

Deborah: Well, the unconditional one is that state of exaltation that I was just talking about, whereas

our conditional, what we’re programmed to do when we’re in just our human self, which is the lower variety — it’s not necessarily bad. It’s just not the most advanced variety of us. We’re more conditioned, and we’re brought up that way. We’re brought up by conditioned parents, so we are conditioned too. We’re always looking at ourselves and saying, “I’m not good enough because I didn’t get an A. I only got a B‐plus. I didn’t win the race. I came in fifth.” So we’re always conditioning our own view of ourselves, and in fact, we really want to take a moment and accept ourselves, exactly who we are, and see the beauty of it, the beauty of the design, because we are designed by the creator. Pretty amazing.

Jennifer: Yeah, yeah. I can feel it right now. Just moving into kind of that presence of love, just moving

into it is a simple act, and yet it can expand so many things for each of us. Deborah: Right, right. Jennifer: Wonderful. Well, we are approaching the top of the hour, and I just want to thank you for a

beautiful, beautiful call, Deborah, and some lovely insights. On Tuesdays we have a little bit of housekeeping, so I want you to stay on for just one sec. We have the phrase that pays winners from last week. Neale Donald Walsch, the phrase that pays winner is Darlene Foster, and from Maureen Moss last week it was Brenda O’Leary. So congratulations, Darlene and Brenda, for winning $250 cash. For those of you who are interested in the contest tonight, it’s all about love is the phrase that pays, and just go to the contest page on Healing with the Masters to enter, which is:

healingwiththemasters.com/contest Now, I’d like to share with you a special offer that Deborah has worked with us to put

together. It’s very exciting. Deborah talked a lot tonight about meditation, how important it is, and she is an amazing meditation teacher. There is are wonderful Learn to Meditate with Deborah audio sessions that are really incredibly powerful. If you’ve had any struggle with meditation, if you’re new to it, if you’ve struggled, and as Deborah said, if it’s not working,


trash it. The master is here to teach you. That’s item one. Item two is The Power of Sacred Ceremony. It’s a video download, and it’s The Power of Sacred Ceremony and leading you to your own ceremony. It’s cleansing rituals. It helps you embark on your spiritual journey, and every known human society, past and present, uses ceremony. It allows you to open to your own sacredness and find that — we talk about being your own shaman. This is the path, is to understand The Power of Sacred Ceremony. Deborah takes us on a journey into that process, into sacred ceremony.

There’s a Be Your Own Shaman Workbook. Be Your Own Shaman is a fabulous book. As

Deborah mentioned, you can go and get that on Amazon, and then we have this special advanced workbook that helps you connect to your ancestral guide. It helps you to develop your own inner strength and power. It’s a perfect companion to the book. So if you’re wanting to go deeper into some of the processes, this workbook is incredibly powerful. The Be Your Own Shaman chart is also available. It’s a chart that gives you wonderful resources to help you deal with challenges of everyday life. It helps you progress on your path, discover your true power. It’s a beautiful, very straightforward tool.

Then there’s an actual guided meditation that Deborah has put together for us. It allows you

to move back into your center, to give yourself a better understanding of yourself and your world. Who better to guide you than the master of meditation herself, Deborah King? So that’s the special offer. It’s powerful. It’s:

specials.healingwiththemasters.com/deborah That’s spelled D‐e‐b‐o‐r‐a‐h, as in ah. Deborah: Right, the old‐fashioned Biblical spelling. Jennifer: It ends with the hard opening ah sound. Deborah, did you have any comments about the offer

or any final thoughts? Deborah: No, but I’m so delighted to have been with you, Jennifer. You really are wonderful to talk to,

really heartwarming actually. Jennifer: Oh, thank you so much. Yeah, I enjoyed our conversation, and I know our audience did as

well. They’re coming on with some really fun comments about some new insights that they’ve discovered with you tonight, so thank you.

Deborah: Great. All right. Jennifer: And thanks everyone for joining us on another show of Healing with the Masters. Thanks so

much for being part of this community. It seems we always come to these calls as individuals. In the end, we will wind up a united community and united in our intention. We know we make the difference. We matter. You matter. I love you all so very much, and until next time, good night. Good night, Deborah.

Deborah: Yeah. Take care.


[End of Discussion]


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Deborah King | Featured Guest | November 1, 2011

Master Healer New York Times Best‐Selling Health & Wellness Author of Be Your Own Shaman DeborahKingCenter.com

Master healer and shaman DEBORAH KING was a successful attorney in her 20s when a diagnosis of cancer sent her on a search for truth that radically changed her life. Unwilling to undergo invasive surgery, she turned to alternative medicine and had an amazing remission at the hands of a healer. Along the way, she conquered the alcohol and drug addictions she had used to bury an abusive childhood. Leaving the corporate arena for the mysterious world of healers, sages, and shamans, Deborah mastered ancient and modern healing systems, ultimately developing a powerful healing technique of her own. Deborah’s New York Times best‐seller, Be Your Own Shaman, takes you on a one‐of‐a‐kind journey into the powerful esoteric world of healing. Her first best‐seller, Truth Heals: What You Hide Can Hurt You, explores the relationship between the suppression of painful emotions and their impact on health and happiness. Deborah travels worldwide, helping thousands of people transform their lives through her experiential workshops. Her online training program, 21st Century Energy Medicine, attracts those who want to become healers for themselves or others. She also hosts a popular weekly Hay House radio show. “I have seen people stand in line for hours just to get a moment with Deborah King. People just love her and her healing work.” Louise L. Hay, the New York Times best‐selling author of You Can Heal Your Life “Deborah King reminds us that we’re born with nature’s most powerful instrument of healing—the gift to be able to sense and direct subtle energy through our bodies.” Gregg Braden, the New York Times best‐selling author of The Divine Matrix and Fractal Time “This book is an essential guide for all seekers of higher truth who are destined to fulfill their purpose of helping others by first healing themselves.” Neale Donald Walsch, the New York Times best‐selling author of Conversations with God “Deborah King is a courageous and gifted healer.” Christiane Northrup, M.D., the New York Times best‐selling author of The Secret Pleasures of Menopause

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Guest Speakers | Further Information August 25, 2011

Jennifer McLean

Host of Healing With The Masters Launching Her New Book Body Dialoging: 7 Steps to Coping & Thriving in Extreme Times HealingWithTheMasters.com

September 6, 2011

James Van Praagh

Celebrated Medium Co‐Executive Producer of the CBS series Ghost Whisperer VanPraagh.com

September 8, 2011

Ann Taylor

Energy Healer Delivering the Power Of Inner Healing

InnerHealing.com

September 13, 2011

Jacqueline Joy

Spiritual Teacher Life‐changing creator of Diamond Alignment for Equanimity & Joy DiamondAlignment.com

September 15, 2011

Eric Pearl

Internationally recognized Healer Creator of Reconnective Healing TheReconnection.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) September 20, 2011

Patricia Cota‐Robles

Internationally known Teacher Co‐Founder/President of the non‐profit New Age Study of Humanity’s Purpose, Inc. EraofPeace.org

September 22, 2011

Marlise Karlin

Internationally renowned Author, Recording Artist, Educator, Humanitarian “Igniting The Power Of Peace In People Around The World” MarliseKarlin.com

September 27, 2011

Jennifer McLean

Host of Healing With The Masters Launching Her New Book Body Dialoging: 7 Steps to Coping & Thriving in Extreme Times HealingWithTheMasters.com

September 28, 2011

Cynthia Kersey

Best‐Selling Author Motivational Speaker Founder of the UNSTOPPABLE Foundation www.unstoppable.net

September 29, 2011

Sherry Gaba

Celebrity Life Coach Psychotherapist on Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew on VH1 SGabaTherapy.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) October 4, 2011

Sonia Choquette

International Best‐Selling Hay House Author Spiritual Teacher Distinguished Intuitive Advisor SoniaChoquette.com

October 6, 2011

Rikka Zimmerman

Spreading the seeds of Consciousness around the world. “All of life comes to me with ease, joy and glory!” RikkaZimmerman.com

October 11, 2011

Jo Dunning

World Renowned Spiritual Teacher, Author, and Master of Energy "The Miracle Worker" JoDunning.com

October 13, 2011

Barbara Marx Hubbard

Social Innovator, Speaker, Author, Educator Leader in The New Worldview of Conscious Evolution BarbaraMarxHubbard.com

October 18, 2011

Marci Shimoff

#1 New York Times Best‐Selling Author, Transformational Leader Leading Expert on Happiness, Success, and Unconditional Love HappyforNoReason.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) October 19, 2011

Elizabeth Jones

Astrologer Extraordinaire and Gifted Intuitive Revealing the nature of powerful 2011 transitions AstrologyofLight.com

October 20, 2011

Don Miguel Ruiz

Best‐Selling Author of The Four Agreements Toltec Master Founder of The Sixth Sun Foundation MiguelRuiz.com

October 25, 2011

Neale Donald Walsch

Internationally Recognized Spiritual Messenger New York Times Best‐Selling Author of the Conversations With God series NealeDonaldWalsch.com

October 27, 2011

Maureen Moss

Catalyst for evolution of the human soul 4‐Time Award‐Winning Author President of the World Puja Network Global Keynote Speaker MaureenMoss.com

November 1, 2011

Deborah King

Master Healer New York Times Best‐Selling Health & Wellness Author of Be Your Own Shaman DeborahKingCenter.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) November 2, 2011

Kaitlyn Keyt

Founder Of VibesUP 3‐Time Visionary Award Winner for her unique healing tools VibesUP.com

November 3, 2011

Lindsay Wagner

Popular Actress, Advocate of Human Potential Author of “Quiet The Mind & Open The Heart” Workshops and Retreats LindsayWagner.com

November 8, 2011

Bill Bauman

Celebrated Leader of Leaders, Healer of Healers Dedicated Servant of World Servers BillBauman.net

November 10, 2011

Morty & Shelly Lefkoe

Founders of The Lefkoe Institute Morty is the Creator of The Lefkoe Method series Shelly is the Founder and President of the Possibilities of Parenting Center LefkoeInstitute.com

November 15, 2011

Geneen Roth

Oprah Winfrey's Mindful Eating Coach Psychotherapist Specializing in Eating Issues Author of The Self‐Compassion Diet GeneenRoth.com

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Healing With the Masters: Volume VIII | Guest Speakers | Further Information (cont’d) November 17, 2011

Jean Houston

Scholar, Philosopher and Researcher in human capacities Foremost Visionary Thinker Principal Founder of the Human Potential Movement JeanHouston.org

November 22, 2011

Colette Baron‐Reid

Internationally renowned Intuitive Counselor, Educator and Motivational Speaker Best Selling Hay House Author ColetteBaronReid.com

November 29, 2011

John Gray

Best‐Selling Relationship Author Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus and the Mars/Venus book series MarsVenus.com

December 1, 2011

Mary A. Hall

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