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Taking Advantage of China’s Multi-lingual Capability: lingual Capability:
A Case Study
John YangMay 2010
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Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
Company Overview
• Strength
F d d i 1980– Founded in 1980– 10th largest independent software company– 16,000 customers in 124 countries
Fi l 2009 f $1 87B– Fiscal 2009 revenues of $1.87B– Solid balance sheet
• Innovation, vision, and execution
– Pioneered concept of BSM– 94 software technology patents – Continued growth through internal innovation and
i itiacquisitions– Support for cloud computing, virtual, distributed, and
mainframe environmentsProven experience
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– Proven experience
Global Support Structure
Contact Centers
Level 2 Support CentersLevel 2 Support Centers
Dublin, Ireland
ppCo-located with R&D
Dalian, China
Lexington
DublinEgham
AmsterdamParis
B ijiDalianTel Hai
Houston
AustinPleasanton/Sunnyvale McLean / Herndon
Lexington Spain
Singapore
PuneShanghai
Beijing TokyoSeoul
Houston, TX, USA
g p
Sao PauloBuenos Aires
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MelbourneBuenos Aires
Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
The Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
The support structure before support business outsourced:
Customers/Partners
Concerns:
Customers/Partners
Japan Korea Great China South Asia Australia & NZWeb / Email / Phone
Concerns:
›CCRs in APCC Provide Pure Language Translation Services Japanese/English
CCRs
AP Customer Contact Center(Melbourne)Korean/English
CCRs Mandarin/English
CCRs
English is common service language
Response
in English
›Little or No Technical Added-Value are Provided by CCRs
›Lack of Engineers with Solid Technical Background and Fluent J /K i A t li
Customer Support(Level 2)
English is common service language If Customer/Partner
Accepts EnglishTranslate / Dispatch
Japanese/Korean in AustraliaSingapore
TSAsChinaTSAs
AustraliaTSAs
KoreaTSAs
JapanTSAs
US/EMEATSAs
Escalate
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R&D(Level 3)
Reason’s to Off-shoring / Outsourcingg g
Source: Deloitte Consulting
Additional Considerations:1. Growing Market in Asia Pacific Region2. Long-term Cost sustainability
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2. Long term Cost sustainability
Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
Global Service Location Index – 2009
China becomes one of the best outsourcing destination of global service, especially in Asia Pacific region.
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Global Delivery Service Index
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HR Skills & Availability Score
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Availability of resources is the key to long-term cost sustainability
Cost Saving VS. HR Skill & Availability
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IDC Global Delivery Indexy
Source: IDC GDI-AP v2.0, May 2008
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Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
China Outsourcing Location OverviewCentral Location:
BeijingShanghaiSShenzhengHong Kong
Satellite Cities:TianjinSuzhouHangzhou
Dalian
Beijing
TianjinXi anCost Saving Location:▲Chengdu▲Wuhan▲Xi an Chengdu
ShanghaiWuhan
Suzhou
Xi an
Hangzhou
Multilingual Location:Dalian
Chengdu Wuhan
Hong Kong
Shenzhen
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Hong-Kong
Dalian Overview
Sendai Toyama
The most recognized location in the world that has a high availability not y
Tokyo Osaka Nagoya Hiroshima
world that has a high availability not only in language capable talents, but also in technology & language combined capable talents to service the
Dalian
• Low operation cost as a second-tier city
Gl b l 500 f H H bit ti
Fukuoka combined capable talents to service the APAC region.
• Global 500 for Human Habitation
• Mature IT industry
• Rich pool of Japanese/Korean & English capable resources
• International city with strong government support
• Established cooperation between local Universities and IT companies
• Great transportation access to the city (from Japan & Korea)
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World Class Infrastructure“Global 500” for Human HabitationGlobal 500 for Human Habitation
Most Challenging Golf Course
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Dalian’s Outsourcing Industry Structure
1980’sGeneral software
1990’sStarting
Later 1990’sDramatic
Since 2000I t ti li d
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General software development
Starting outsourcing
Dramatic growth
Internationalized
Average monthly salary per “IT” related position
HR expenses in Daliang y y p p
Position RMB AUD (rate: 6.3)
University graduates 2,000 – 3,000 317– 476Software engineer (0.5-3 years exp.) 3,500 – 4,500 556– 714
Position RMB AUD (rate: 6 3)
Average monthly salary per “BPO” & Management related position
System engineer (3-5 years exp.) 6,000 – 9,000 952– 1,428Project manager (5-10 years exp.) 10,000 – 16,000 1,585 – 2,536
Position RMB AUD (rate: 6.3)
Call center operator (only Chinese, 1-2 yrs exp.) 2,500 – 3,200 397– 507Call center operator (English, 1-2 yrs exp.) 5,500 – 7,000 873– 1,111Call center oper. (Japanese or Korean, 1-2 yrs exp.) 4,000 – 5,500 634– 873p ( p , y p ) , ,Senior operator (English, 3+ yrs exp.) 6,500 – 8,500 1,032 – 1,349Senior operator (Japanese or Korean, 3+ yrs exp.) 6,500 – 8,500 1,032– 1,349Process Leader 7,000 – 10,000 1,111 – 1,585Operation Manager (fluent Japanese or Korean) 15,000 – 25,000 2,380 – 3,968Operation Manager (fluent English) 15,000 – 20,000 2,380 –3,175
Native speaker & employees
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Position RMB AUD (rate: 6.3)
Native English 7,500 – 10,000 1,090 – 1,585 Native Japanese/South Korean 6,500 – 15,000 1,032 – 2,380
The Reasons Why Choose Dalian
Why Dalian– Low Cost Location for APAC Technical Support
Center– Mature IT Environment with World-Class
Infrastructure – Rich Technical and Language Talent Pool– Established Cooperation between Local Established Cooperation between Local
Universities and IT Companies Which Can Satisfy Our Long-Term Talent Demand
– Local IT Vendors Have Extensive Experience pWorking with MNCs
– Local Vendor Can Provide Improved Services to Consolidate Our North Asian Customers and
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Partners– Position for Growth
Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
Captive VS. OutsourcinggThe comparison of main strategic and operational factors that usually facilitate organization’s decision in favor of third-party outsourcing or captive model.
Disadvantages• Longer build up period if building from scratch
Captive Center
Advantages:• Gain operational flexibility (quickly free up internal
3rd Party Outsourcing
• Higher risk due to initial investment• Administrative management can pose problems in a
unfamiliar location and environment• It takes time to gain access to the qualified local
resources (brand name recruitment channel
and ramp-up or ramp-down external resources)• No long-term commitment or large initial
investment• Access to specific technology or domain expertise
and best practices that are not available in-houseresources (brand name, recruitment channel, relations with Universities & College)
• Long decision cycles (most of time at global level)
Advantages:
and best practices that are not available in-house• Can focus on the core business
Disadvantages:• Less control and operational transparency
VS• Experience the saving first-handed• Retain key resources & knowledge• Control of all processes and operations• Gain local experience and develop local market• Easily integrated into internal orgnization
• Most of time don’t have control over project resource
• Cost saving can be minimal when using large service providers
• No driver for innovation and cost reduction
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Easily integrated into internal orgnization No driver for innovation and cost reduction• Information security can be a issue when resource
and location are shared between projects
The Third Choice
After careful evaluation, decide to go with the Hybrid Staff augmentation / Outsourcing (BOT: Build Operate Transfer) engagement model with YIDATEC With the BOT model (BOT: Build-Operate-Transfer) engagement model with YIDATEC. With the BOT model was able to enjoy following key advantages:•Time, because the service provider is presumably more expert at assembling the infrastructure and obtaining local regulatory consents;g g y•Money, because the benefits of the new infrastructure can be enjoyed sooner, and there is no initial investment;•Effort, because the service provider is performing the effort (Setup, Recruitment, and all other administrative tasks)all other administrative tasks)•Flexibility, although has no intension to transfer the operation any time soon, the model does provide the flexibility to choose when needed•Minimal Risk, with the flexibility of the engagement model, can pull out with minimum
f ’loss if thing don’t work out•Partnership, through the project, not only built a service center, but also built long-lasting partnership with a strong local partner to help explore the local relations
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Why YIDATECy
Following are some of the key reasons for to choose Following are some of the key reasons for to choose a local vendor like YIDATEC:•YIDATEC is flexible and willing to provide BOT servicesg p•With over 1500 staffs, YIDATEC is large enough to “trust” and small enough to “care”•With stable financial backing and strong local governmental relation, YIDATEC can help to be better positioned in China. (The parent company of YIDATEC is one of the help to be better positioned in China. (The parent company of YIDATEC is one of the largest real estate company in China)•YIDATEC has strong experience serving Japan, and Korean customers, and has presents in Japan, and various locations in Chinapresents in Japan, and various locations in China•Mature QA and Training systems•Experience in technical supports rather than general ITO and BPO
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Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
Dalian Support Center• Initial Interest Started Sept 2007
– Approached Dalian High Tech Industrial Zone Foreign Investment Promotion BureauInvestment Promotion Bureau
– Spoke to Other Software Vendors/Suppliers
• RFP and Evaluation Started April 20087 Suppliers were Invited to Respond – 7 Suppliers were Invited to Respond
– 2 vendors Short- Listed– Contract awarded to YiDATEC on Oct 1, 2008
Office Fit Out and Staff Recruitment • Office Fit Out and Staff Recruitment – Successfully Completed in Very Short Time of 1.5 Months
• Staff Onboard and New Hire Training - 15th Nov, 2008
• Center Went Live – Jan 1st, 2009
• AP Technical Support Center10 L1 Technical Support Analysts
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– 10 L1 Technical Support Analysts– 11 L2 TSAs– 1 Support Managers
• Expected to Grow to About 30 Staff by End of 2010
Achievement of Dalian TSCPrimary Customer Supported in: Asia PacificLanguage Supported: Japanese, Korean, English and MandarinOperating Hours: TSC is 5X12 operation and weekend supportsFunctional Teams: About 22 Engineers in Customer Care Rep (L1) Team Technical Support Analyst (L2) Team QA Team and
DalianTSC
Functional Teams: About 22 Engineers in Customer Care Rep (L1) Team, Technical Support Analyst (L2) Team, QA Team and Training TeamOthers: Dalian TSC is also supporting some cases passed from U.S and EMEA
U.S. EMEA
Asia Asia Pacific
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The Restructured Technical Support in Asia Pacific
Customers/Partners
Japan Korea Great China South Asia Australia & NZ
issue technical response issue technical responseissue technical
Web / Email / Phone
› 10% Cost saving in the first 12 months of operation (Considering a new call center
Dalian TSC
Japanese (CCRs)
Korean (CCRs)
issue
English (CCRs)
p issue pissue response
Backup CCR(Japanese +Korean)
Front Line Customer Support
operation (Considering a new call center hardware & software investment)
› Improve & Maintain Customer Satisfaction at 90%
› Reduce Management Overhead and l it
(CCRs) (CCRs) (CCRs) (Japanese +Korean)
Mandarin is common service language, all the above Agents d l ith i M d i Chi i d ith ll il bl t
Japanese (TSAs)
Korean (TSAs)
English (TSAs)
Backup TSA(Japanese +Korean)
Level-1&2 Technical Support
complexity› Flexibility in resource management
escalation escalation escalation
can deal with cases in Mandarin, Chinese is covered with all available agents
R&D
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R&D(Level 3)
Topics
1 Background and Overview
2 Initial Technical Support Structure in Asia Pacific
4 Why Did We Choose Dalian and YIDATEC
The Reason of Our Decision of Moving Technical Support to China3
4
5 Captive VS. Outsourcing
6 Achievement After 1 Year of Operation
7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
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7 Lesson Learn Through The Process
Lesson Learned Through The Projectg j
Identify your goal early and know what you wantIdentify your goal early and know what you wantTry to be involved as much as possible during the initial stage of the operationTreat the offshore team as an extension of your own teamBe prepare to be involved in recruitment and trainingCommunication and customer service skills can still be a challenge
fDrive the customer satisfaction and process improvementFacility and infrastructures are excellent and latest in DalianA reliable and flexible local partner can be a great helpA reliable and flexible local partner can be a great help
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Thank YouThank You
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