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Antegrade vs Retrograde Decision Antegrade vs. Retrograde DecisionMaking: Hybrid Thinking Making: Hybrid Thinking Junbo Ge, MD,FACC, FESC, FSCAI, FAPSIC Department of Cardiology, Zhongshan Hospital, Fudan University Shanghai Institute of Cardiovascular Diseases Shanghai Institute of Cardiovascular Diseases

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  • Antegrade vs Retrograde DecisionAntegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid ThinkingMaking: Hybrid Thinking

    Junbo Ge, MD,FACC, FESC, FSCAI, FAPSIC 

    Department of Cardiology,

    Zhongshan Hospital, Fudan University

    Shanghai Institute of Cardiovascular DiseasesShanghai Institute of Cardiovascular Diseases

  • Update from the "Retrograde Summit"p gYamane M. CTO Summit, 2013, NY

    N=1166 cases (2009-11 in 27 centers)

    Primary Retrograde Approach (716)

    Immediately After Failed Antegrade (450)

    Successful GW collateral channel cross 

    pp ( ) g ( )

    f82.3% (960/1166)

    Retrograde Success:

    Change to Antegrade Approach (252)

    Retrograde Success: 87.3% (838/960)

    Success 58.3% Success 58.3% Failure/Halt /CMX 

    15.5% (181)Overall Success 84.5%

    ( 985/1166)

    (147/252(147/252)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Hybrid Approach is common in 

    complex CTO‐PCI!p

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Indication of Retrograde approaches

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Hybrid ApproachAnatomy Dictates StrategyAnatomy Dictates Strategy

    Th F Q tiThe Four Questions1. Is the Proximal cap well defined or ambiguous?2 Quality of the distal target2. Quality of the distal target3. Suitability of “interventional” collaterals4. Lesion length < or > 20mm

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Ad Hoc Strategy for CTO PCI

    Antegrade techniqueTapered stump

    Short CTO segment

    Antegrade technique as first strategy

    Angiographic viasualization of microchannels

    Absence of calcification in CTOAbsence of calcification in CTO segment

    Retrograde technique Long CTO segment (>40mm)

    Easy retrograde collateral routeas first strategy

    Easy retrograde collateral route

    Severe calcification in CTO segment

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Case 1:Male, 60 yrs, Recurrent Chest Pain for 4 mons

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Attempted to open CTO with the antegrade approach but failed

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Attempted to open CTO with the antegrade approach, but failed.

    7FEBU 3 757FEBU 3.75

    Crosswire NT

    2.0F Progreat

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Retrograde GW could not access into the antegrade GC

    0215676F JR4 GC; 2.0F Progreat MC; Fielder GW

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    R l Wi T i T h i

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Reversal Wire Trapping Technique

    021567Amplatz Goose Neck(ev3, Plymouth, Minnesota)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    R l Wi T i T h i

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Reversal Wire Trapping Technique

    021567

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    021567

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Runthrough GWRunthrough GW

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Fi l R l

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Final Result

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Dose this statement hold true?

    Antegrade approach should be always tried in all g pp yCTO‐PCI, if its failed, then choose retrograde 

    approach!

    Maybe not!Maybe not!

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Indication of Retrograde Approachas a Primary Procedureas a Primary Procedure

    • Antegrade wiring seems very difficult in terms ofanatomical factors (complex CTO)

    Th i h i ibl d i ll l• The patient has visible and continuous collaterals

    • The donor vessel is healthy (or can be treated)• The donor vessel is healthy (or can be treated)

    • Re‐attempt after previous failurep p

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Case 2:Male, 54 yrs, SA for 3 mons (CTOCC 2009)

    022638(2)First attempt with antegrade approach was failed.

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    CC 1-2 from L to R

    022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Fielder FC + Corsair

    022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Att ti Ki i Wi T h i b t f il

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Attempting Kissing Wire Technique, but failure

    Fielder FC – Crosswire NT 022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    R CART T h i

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Reverse CART Technique

    Conquest Pro

    Ryujin plus 1.5* 15mm @ 6-10atm Ryujin plus 2.5*15mm @ 6-10atm 022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    R CART T h i

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Reverse CART Technique

    Apex 3.5* 20mm @ 8atm 022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    300 Fi ld FC

    Thinking and Changing Course

    300cm Fielder FC

    Ryujin 2.5*15mm @ 6-10atm 022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Final Res lts

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Final Results

    022638(2)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Wh ill thi CTO ith t d

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Who will reopen this CTO with antegrade approach firstly?app oac st y

    018760Case 3: Female, 65 yrs, chest pain for 2 mons

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Tip Injection

    Ch l Dil t Fielder FC018760

    Channel Dilator Fielder FC

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Retrograde GW could not access into the JR4 GC

    018760Miracle 3+ Channel Dilator

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Retrograde wire trapping technique

    018760

    Advanced Channel Dilator into the root of aorta and changed Miracle 3 GW to Fielder FC (300cm)

    Amplatz Goose Neck(ev3, Plymouth, Minnesota)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    B k E d b ll i MC l

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Back-End ballooning + MC reversal

    018760Ma’sla Just(2.5*15mm)

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Final Result

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  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    h k d hThinking and Changing Course

    Change Course: Ad hoc or Stage?

    IF large amount of contrast used

    IF long period of fluoro time spent

    IF the operator and/or patient exhausted

    IF the equipment is insufficient 

    Stage procedure may be reasonable!

  • Antegrade vs. Retrograde Decision‐Making: Hybrid 

    Thinking and Changing Course

    Take home message

    • Changing course is common in some complex

    CTO‐PCI.

    • Hybrid strategy can increase success of CTO‐

    PCI Th CTO h ld lPCI. The CTO expert operator should learn to

    be versatile and be ready to adopt differentbe versatile and be ready to adopt different

    techniques during the same proceduretechniques during the same procedure.