manual dexterity music zine - summer 2005
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DESCRIPTIONFEATURE interviews with Say Hi (To Your Mom), Chariots (North America), and The Nein. SIXES interviews with bands These Arms Are Snakes, Del Cielo, Paint it Black, Strike Anywhere, Dr. Dog, and Des Ark.
- Are from Chicago, IL- Band member Jesse Woghin, co-runs Flameshovel Records. - Released Such Triumph on June 28, 2005, on Flameshovel.- Play intense, angular punk/rock with urgency and youthfulness. - Some songs on Such Triumph are influenced by Capn Jazz, Unwound, and Pavement.- www.thenarrator.net, or www.flameshovel.com for more information
Music The feeling of starting and finishing something new. Wifey, Monkey, and Noodle.
Cover: The Narrator-Megan Holmes (www.thisishamid.com/meganholmes)(Pg 8-9) Adam Lowe(Pg 10-11) Aaron WoJack(Pg 12) Unknown(Pg 16-17) M. Vorrasi(Pg 19) TAAS-Robin Laananan, Del Ceilo-Unknown, PiB-Shane McCualeyStrike Anywhere-Unknown, Dr. Dog-Unknown, Des Ark-Unknown(Pg 25-30) The Aquabats-Unknown, Deathray Davies-Unknown, Lake Trout-Unknown, Minus TheBear-Unknown, Portastatic-Unknown, Schoolyard Heroes-Unknown, Spoon-Unknown
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2005 - Subtitles Publishing - Minneapolis
Six Bands/Six Questions:
Paint It Black
These Arms Are Snakes
Chariots (America, North)
Say Hi To Your Mom
Live at Last:
The Crush seemed to be heading places. Theyreleased a solid sophomore album which wastheir debut on Adeline records. They played soldout shows in England opening for Green Day andwere getting reviews in major magazines. It was ashock to me when I heard they were playing theirlast show. I thought they had been doing prettygood up to that point. Their last 2 shows were onthe same night on August 30, 2003 at the 7thStreet Entry.
Braid is one of those bands that most people knowabout, due to their contributions to the indie/punk/emoscene in the mid nineties. Although not very popularamong the mainstream audience, they played manyshows throughout the US and Europe. 5 years after theybroke up, they reunited to play a string of shows to pro-mote their Killing a Camera Retrospective DVD. Thephotos above are from their last show in Minneapolis onJuly 6, 2004.
How long after the end of Song of Zarathustradid Chariots start?
We started around March of 2003. Just a fewmonths after S.o.Z. played our last show. Aroundlate 2003/early 2004, the line up was solidified as a5 piece. Then we lost a 2nd guitarist and remaineda 4 piece till this day.
Are all the members from the Minneapolisarea?
Arthur is from Illinois. Eric is from North Dakota, I'mfrom Iowa, and Matts from Illinois as well.
Early in Chariots forming, the band had multi-ple guitars or multiple bass players, how didyou finally end up with the four current mem-bers?
Just made sense at the time. The four of us wrotewell together,etc.. The other guitarist is amazing,but just didn't match up for what we were going forI guess. More or less.
The band name is Chariots, why add the(America, North)?
There's a Christian hXc band called The Chariotand a screamo band called Chariots from the UK.We'll still be known as Chariots. People will justhave to get used to it I guess. But just to not makean issue, we decided to add to the name.
How does Chariots compare to previous bandsyou've done, Song of Zarathustra and Book ofDead Names?
Natural growth,pretty much. Especially if you knowme personally...It makes sense.
The 2 previous bands you've been in have bro-ken up, what steps are you taking to preventthis from happening with Chariots?
You can't prevent it. It'll happen eventually. I guesswhat were trying to do is proceed in steps that willat least help in it's longevity.
How long did it take to write and record"Congratulations"?
About a year. We scrapped around a full lengthsworth of material though. We didn't want to have arecord full of "filler". Yet, I know we won't play mostof these songs for years. I hope we'll be able towrite more often as we mature as a band, etc..
Was Troubleman the first label you approachedto release the Chariots full length? What is itlike working with Troubleman?
I spoke with a few labels. When I approached Mikeat TMU,TMU was busy. So, it was actually for thebest. We weren't writing as good of songs as weare now...in our opinion. I like TMU, I like the bandson it and I like Mike. He's always been more thansupportive.
Interview with Travis BosApril 2005
What are the plans for Chariots touring? Doyou plan on touring Europe like you did withSong of Zarathustra
Yes we are. As a matter of fact, we spoke about ittoday with a guy from Germany who has an inter-est in it.
Tell us about the video you doing for the track"Hips Unite"?
It'll be finished when we get back from tour. We allenjoy video and audio together. So,we decided tomake it with some friends of ours in town. Prettyexcited to approach that kind of art along withwriting music.
Seems like now a days a lot of bands havebeen making MySpace pages, how has theChariots MySpace page helped with promot-ing the band?
It's been good. It's it's own thing. People find themost random stuff, bands, people on that site yaknow? So,I guess why not.
What would you like to accomplish withChariots?
I just wanna be happy with what we write. Beproud of it. That's all I really care about at themoment.
CHARIOTS (America, North)
Interview with (RB) Robert Biggers and (FC) Finn Cohen
How does Wrath of Circuits compare with your previous releases?
RB: Wrath is our first concentrated studio recording. The previous EP's were reallydemos or documents of what we did live (at shows) with no extra decoration or specializedarrangements. It's also our first release to feature our 4th member, Dale Flatum, on tapesand samples. Besides, though possibly because of, the studio resources and resultant son-ics, we spread out or grew the songs more than those on the previous EP's. A couple ofthe songs have relatively long instrumental sections, and even the shortest song goesthrough a series of different sounds. Most of which we can't do live, but this will hopefullymake up for the experience of our "live rock band" performance -- which I don't think wecould do in recording.
How did you get together with Sonic Unyon, and how do you feel being one of thefirst American bands on the Canadian Label?
FC: I sent the EP that came out last fall to a bunch of labels, and Sonic Unyon was the firstone who said "Let us put this out" right off the bat. I'm proud to be part of their global expan-sion takeover plan. They need us and we need them, so it works out well.
RB: We didn't know them or most of the labels we sent demos to; they liked it enough tooffer to release CDs of ours. SU is extremely supportive and generous; we're happy andgrateful. There's a pretty good argument of ours that goes: We'd rather be the one of 2American bands on a Canadian label than one of 20 bands on an American label. It alsogives us reason to travel to Canada, which is pretty nice to do.
After the release of your self titled EP, you brought Dale Flattum in to the band. Whydid you bring him in, and what does Dale bring to the group, that it was previouslymissing?
FC: Casey knew Dale since they are both artists, and he told me that Dale really appreci-ated the songs that we had early on, especially the ones where I played the sampler as themain instrument. Dale's also a fan of the Dr. Sample (the brand of sampler we use), so wehad him join in on a Wire cover ("Our Swimmer") about a year and a half ago. It workedout well and his personality seemed to mesh with ours really well; then I listened to someof the Steel Pole Bath Tub and Milk Cult (which was the SPBT alter ego project, wheresongs were constructed out of samples and loops) and really dug that stuff. I started writ-ing some songs with him in mind, keeping room in the demos for Dale to add whatever hewanted to. It was really exciting to give him a song and say "Do whatever you want" andhave him come back with something that the three of us would never have come up with.We started integrating him more and more into the songwriting process and playing shows,and eventually we locked into a way to approach the songs with him as an equal instru-ment.
RB: Dale's parts have typically come after the bulk of the song is written, but we're hopingto progressively work him in earlier in the process from now on. I think Dale's sound bringsa really unique and distinguishing quality to the overall group sound. Most of the songs areguitar/bass/drums/vocals (some trade guitar for sampler) and his instrumentation of oldcassette tape loops and samples serve to put all that (guit/bass/drums) into a context thatwasn't there before. Of course, sometimes his sounds are less global to the song (a repet-itive noise figure in the background) but I think they still change the entire setting of ourmusic.
FC: One thing that has been kind of frustrating about playing live shows with him is that alot of soundmen see his setup and automatically think he's secondary or don't bother to payattention to what he's doing, so we've had to be really up front about how he should be inthe mix every show we play since we can't afford our own soundman to go on tour rightnow. I don't think the songs we have on the EP are "missing" anything, but when Dale playson them live they are definitely better.
Will Dale be adding his sound manipulations to Nein songs, that were recordedprevious to his joining the band, during live shows?
FC: There were no "sound manipulations" that were recorded previous to his joining theband that he plays live; when we play songs off the EP, he's got parts that he's writtensince he's joined the band that fit in pretty well