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http://www.democratic-republicans.us/about-john/videos-of-jdn-speakingA great short summary of one of the most incredible recent reincarnation cases, discussed heavily in my videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD8ldjdW8Cc

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The uncanny case.

of Carl Edon the Luftwaffe German who

became a Yorkshireman. .[source: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2002/01/15/the-uncanny-case-of-carl-eden-84229-11540818 in Yorkshire, England, land of my maternal ancestors.] [source: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk


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/news/teesside-news/2002/01/15/the-uncanny-case-of-carl-eden-84229-11540818 in Yorkshire, England, land of mymaternal ancestors.]Jan 15 2002

The uncanny case of Carl Edon.

[source: http://www.gazettelive.co.uk/news/teesside-news/2002/01/15/the-uncanny-case-of-carl-eden-84229-11540818 in Yorkshire, England, land of my maternal ancestors.]

Jan 15 2002 Mike Blackburn

For years before he was brutally murdered Carl Edon tried to convince his family that he was reincarnated. Todayhis astonished parents believe they have been given extraordinary photographic evidence.

(SEE PHOTOS BELOW.)

Young Middlesbrough dad Carl had spoken since he was just three years old of vivid flashbacks to a former life as aNazi airman killed when his plane was shot down in 1942.

Now startling new photos, unearthed after dogged detective work by a local historian, reveal a chilling resemblancebetween Carl and a German airman, Heinrich Richter, buried in a Thornaby cemetery.

Richter, a turret gunner, perished when his Dornier bomber crashed onto a South Bank railway during a raid exactly60 years ago today January 15, 1942.

============ON THE DORNIER

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_17

It was a thin, fast, maneuverable light bomber meant to take out specific military-industrial targets, notcarpet-bomb civilian cities like Allied bombers (which thus were committing a war crime under the Hague rulesof land warfare.)

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The wreckage of the Dornier, damaged by anti-aircraft fire before hitting a barrage balloon, was discovered in 1997buried off Tilbury Road only a few hundred yards from the spot where Carl was stabbed to death two years earlier.

When the bomber was dug up with Richters remains inside, Carls parents, Jim and Val, shuddered as they recalled


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their sons eerie tales of reincarnation.

Val Edon

But only now as the Gazette reveals for the first time what the airman looked like are the Coulby Newham couplelooking at their sons claims in a new light.

Its got to be him, said a stunned Val, when shown a photo of the German in full uniform shortly before the crashover Teesside.

The resemblance across the eyes and the nose is uncanny.Maybe this is the final piece of the jigsaw, she said.

The striking picture was obtained after Guisborough historian and author Bill Norman tracked down Richtersrelatives in Germany for a new book.

An uncanny likeness between the two young men and the fact that they share the same scene of death more than50 years apart are just two of the strange coincidences which have spooked Carls parents.

During the excavation of the German bomber it was discovered that Richters leg, still inside a flying boot, had beensevered in the wreckage, explained Val.

Carl used to say he lost his right leg in the crash, she said. And he had a birth mark at the top of that leg.

On the day her rail worker son was murdered by Gary Vinter, later jailed for life he had been to Skinningrove tocollect train carriages.

Carl Edon and (black-and-white photo) double Iron-Cross winner, Luftwaffe pilot Heinrich Richter


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The day the Dornier crashed it had bombed Skinningrove first and flew on to Middlesbrough following the railwayline, said Val.

Carl and Richter had made the same journey the day they died.There are just too many strange coincidences, and I think if Carl was here hed be saying Do you believe menow?

One of the countrys leading researchers into psychic phenomena admitted he was amazed at the detailssurrounding the two deaths.

We research a lot of reincarnation cases, but not many as remarkable as this one sounds, said David Christie-Murray, member of the Society for Psychical Research, founded in 1882 and now based in London.

It seems to me to be a fascinating case, and one Im sure the SPR would certainly be interested in investigating ifthe family wanted to.

Carls experiences are already detailed in a book called The Children That Time Forgot by Peter and Mary Harrison,and on a US TV show. Theyve also been well documented in British and German newspapers, including theGazette when Carl was just nine years old.

But his parents said he suffered taunts at school as a result of his past life claims.

When that started happening Carl didnt like talking about it any more, said his mum.

But he always believed it.

His dad told the Gazette he was cynical at first. I was sick of Carl going on about it, he said. But I probably believemore in reincarnation now.

The Dorniers three other crew were buried in Thornaby after the crash in 1942, but Richter was not laid to restalongside his colleagues until the plane was rediscovered 55 years later by water board workers.

Val and Jim joined nearly 300 mourners at a moving funeral service for the fourth German airman.

Standing at Richters grave afterwards felt eerie, said Jim. It was like we were re-burying Carl again. Maybe nowthis will be the end of it.

Richter, who won the Iron Cross medal twice and had been wounded in action, was 24 when he was shot down andkilled. Carl was just 22 when he was murdered, leaving behind heartbroken fiancee Michelle, and their two youngdaughters Carla and Sophie.

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The detail about the birthmark is significant. In the vast compendium of reincarnation studies at the University ofVirginia (see this article about Ian Stevenson, MD: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ian_Stevenson), children whoreincarnate quickly after a traumatic death often have a birthmark at the spot where they were stabbed, shot orotherwise injured.

Here is a video featuring Dr. Jim Tucker, a child psychiatrist who has continued Dr. Stevensons work:

Here is an accurate article about Tuckers major book:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life_Before_Life


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A fair Amazon.com review of the book:

http://www.amazon.com/Life-Before-Scientific-Investigation-Childrens/dp/0312321376

What strikes me about Tucker, a medical doctor, is that he never, ever, ever leaves behind the scientific method orspirit. The scientific method is have a hypothesis, then gather hard facts and from them develop a theory to explainthem and provide other scientists with your methods and data and a means to do their own experiments toverify or disprove your findings..

The book is anything but dogmatic or full of New-Age-y flower-power assertions. The reason why the founder ofXerox Corporation (inventor of the photocopy machine) funded Ian Stevenson, MD and then Jim Tucker, MD at theUniversity of Virginia was their rigorous scientific work.

The following book, still available only in German, is the most brilliant work to date on the subject for those whoalready accept the concept as being possible and want to know more details.

Die Spirituelle Welt (The Spiritual World)


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It is appropriate for those who already accept the possibility of reincarnation but still have very reasonable andnagging questions about who, what, when, where and why. Winkler, whom I know from correspondence andreading his blog, is a former computer programmer who awoke to pro-white issues and became a commentator onthe Internet on German and European affairs.

This particular book is barely racial in tone (which anyway would be ILLEGAL in Germany), except inasmuch as ourkarma affects what race we are born into. It has a strong ring of truth to it, deep in your gut, and nothing is sugar-coated or Baby-Jesus-Will-Save-You from your own folly.. In that sense it is very German but Winkler has adelightful sense of humor and a light, easy writing style as well that I as an American loved.

This book changed my life. It is nearly finished being translated from German into English by me and my team. Itwas very, very real and yet inspiring to me.

Here are the first two chapters of this masterpiece:

http://www.democratic-republicans.us/english/the-spiritual-world

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Even the hardcore skeptic and NASA scientist Carl Sagan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Sagan, famous for hisspecial TV shows about outer space in the 1980s), who founded CSICOP, the Committee for the ScientificInvestigation of Claims of the Paranormal, and dismissed almost ALL paranormal notions, stated that thephenomenon of children recalling exact details of the life of a dead stranger from another family and city, a personwho died years or decades earlier, and also claiming very definitely to BE that person in a new life (not just having


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an ESP reading of that person) merit serious investigation.

In Wikipedias article on Stevenson, we read:

Stevensons work also attracted the attention of Carl Sagan and Arthur C. Clarke who, while intrigued,felt it fell short of providing proof of reincarnation, which they both viewed as unlikely. In The Demon-Haunted World (1996), Sagan wrote that claims about reincarnation have some, though dubious,experimental support, arguing that one of three claims in parapsychology deserving serious study isthat, young children sometimes report details of a previous life, which upon checking turn out tobe accurate and which they could not have known about in any other way than reincarnation.[26]Clarke observed that Stevenson had produced a number of studies that were hard to explain, thennoted that accepting reincarnation raised the question of the means for personality transfer.[27] SkepticSam Harris said of Stevenson either he is a victim of truly elaborate fraud, or something interesting isgoing on.[28]

Although I am sharply critical of jewish power over the white world, the scientist and author Carl Sagan did manyadmirable things that I recognize, among them explaining the mysteries of the universe and advocating a healthy

skepticism about paranormal claims.

I have found over and over that the semitic idea that we have just one life and then are judged by God, or just dieand go out of existence, leaves people empty and nihilistic.

The crisis comes when a seemingly very good person is murdered, or evil seems to totally triumph over good. Thenpeople lose their faith in God, at least as the three semitic desert religions depict Him.

Rabbi Harold Kushner (I knew people in the Boston area who knew him) wrote a famous bestseller in the 1990sentitled When Bad Things Happen to Good People.

http://www.amazon.com/When-Things-Happen-Good-People/dp/0380603926

It was a very well-chosen title and subject because when a horrible disease, crime or injustice happens,especially to in innocent child (as disease struck Rabbi Kushners own child) then we often see that they really doNOT believe in their god as propagated by judaism, saulianity or islam. They go atheist..

Where is God??

No! there IS no God!!

My mother told me that my father told her after Korea [the horrible atrocities he saw and the senseless slaughter ofbrave Americans in adeliberate no-win war] it was very hard to believe in God.

I recall an Elvis Presley song about a little black boy born on a cold gray Chicago morning in the ghetto. The kidgrows up in a violent, criminal milieu and eventually is gunned down as a teen with a pistol in his hand. Presleyspoint was that kids who grow up in such surroundings are fairly unlikely to get, or stay on the straight and narrow


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path which Jesus Christ recommended toward a godly life.

============IN THE GHETTO BY ELVIS PRESLEY

(The video shows scenes of Presleys own humble origins and then his own child Priscilla.)

This is a GREAT song.. It was one of the things that made me examine my nightmares, anger and my own abuse-shattered life, and seek the counselling that helped turn my life around. It is incredibly hard to feel good aboutyourself if you had a very bad childhood.

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So what kind of just God gives us (as the semites preach just

1) ONE life followed by

2) divine judgment but

3) these lives are totally unequal? How fair is God then??

Some of us grow up in wholesome families (such as certain Mormons, Traditional Catholics and believingProtestants) and have a ten times greater chance of a happy and successful life than others. Very many these daysof all races grow up having the childhood from hell.

(I have discussed my own traumatic childhood and now it helped ruin two marriages and my whole financial andemotional future until I found the courage to seek counseling at age 49. I have seen as a high school teacher that bythe 12th grade half the kids are living in a broken home no mom-and-dad family, but a divorced single workingmom, NOT there at home when the kids return from school, with a string of boyfriends going in and out. And I canthink of one case where I suspected the divorced moms boyfriend was abusing the daughter while the motherworked the 3-11 pm shift. The worst thing as a compassionate teacher is following the rule NOT to get involved inthe private lives of our students At most we can alert the guidance counselor, nurse or even the police, ofcourse. I remember one very pretty girl with beautiful long light brown hair who used to come in and cry on herdesk. It was heart-rending. What are the odds that girl will grow up to be perfectly normal? Btw, I tried just talkinga bit with her once but she just clammed up on me.)

Reincarnation answers in a satisfying and real-feeling way our questions about why life is as it is Why we suffereither because of

1) bad karma we must endure, for evil deeds we did that were not punished in a previous existence (as inVERY frequently the case; people get off scot-free ALL the time, although not in terms of God); or because


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2) we are good people who have volunteered to experience specific challenges and trials to help us grow inunderstanding, empathy and even the agonies of choosing the rocky path of heroism.

Reincarnation is a profoundly Aryan idea of personal growth through cause and effect. What you sow is what youreap. You either run or you fight.

And as Julius Caesar said about the Kelts of Gaul, their belief in reincarnation made them fearless.

The implications of reincarnation to our racial struggle are far-reaching and massive. This doctrine and this realityare genuinely Aryan and they change everything.

Wikipedia: (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Ford)

Henry Ford (July 30, 1863 April 7, 1947) wasthe American founder of the Ford Motor Company and father of modern assembly lines used in mass production.His introduction of the Model T automobile revolutionized transportation and American industry. He was a prolificinventor and was awarded 161 U.S. patents. As owner of the Ford Motor Company he became one of the richestand best-known people in the world. He is credited with Fordism, that is, the mass production of large numbers ofinexpensive automobiles using the assembly line, coupled with high wages for his workers. Ford had a global vision,with consumerism as the key to peace. Ford did not believe in accountants; he amassed one of the worlds largestfortunes without ever having his company audited under his administration. Henry Fords intense commitment tolowering costs resulted in many technical and business innovations, including a franchise system that put adealership in every city in North America, and in major cities on six continents.


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In 1923, [Henry] Fords pastor, and head of his sociologydepartment, Episcopal minister Samuel S. Marquis, claimed that Ford believed, or once believed in

reincarnation.[63] Though it is unclear whether or how long Ford kept such a belief, the San Francisco Examinerfrom August 26, 1928, published a quote which described Fords beliefs:

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I adopted the theory of Reincarnation when I was twenty six. [JdN: He was then 60 years old.]Religion offered nothing to the point. Even work could not give me complete satisfaction. Work isfutile if we cannot utilize the experience we collect in one life in the next.

When I discovered Reincarnation it was as if I had found a universal plan. I realized that there wasa chance to work out my ideas. Time was no longer limited. I was no longer a slave to the handsof the clock.

Genius is experience. Some seem to think that it is a gift or talent, but it is the fruit of longexperience in many lives. Some are older souls than others, and so they know more.

The discovery of reincarnation put my mind at ease. If you preserve a record of this conversation,write it so that it puts mens minds at ease. I would like to communicate to others the calmnessthat the long view of life gives to us.

====ANOTHER NEW AGE LIBERAL HIPPIE WHO BELIEVED FIRMLY IN REINCARNATION

(DO YOU RECOGNIZE THIS MANS FACE?)

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General George Patton in WWII


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[JdN: I have corrected a few punctuation errors and slightly shortened the essay below, of which the original versionis found here: http://www.reversespins.com/patton.html]

Patton Movie Script: Dialogue taken frommovie.Scene descriptions from Reverse SpinsEditor.

SCENE:

Three men in W.W. II uniforms (twoGenerals) traveling down a North Africanroad in a jeep.

DIALOGUE:

General George S.Patton (George C. Scott): Hold it!Turn right here.

Driver: But sir, the battlefield isstraight ahead.

Patton: Please dont argue withme Sergeant. I can smell abattlefield.

General Omar Bradley (KarlMalden): He was out here justyesterday George.

Patton: (points with his ridingcrop) Its over there, turn right,damn it!

SCENE:

The jeep goes off road, passingsome turbaned North Africans on


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donkeys and then comes uponsome Romanesque ruins. Pattongets out, followed by Bradley. Ahaunting echo of horns plays inthe background as if replayingsome ancient charge of a longforgotten battle.

DIALOGUE:

Patton: It was here.The battlefield washere. TheCarthaginiansdefending the citywere attacked by threeRoman Legions.Carthaginians wereproud and brave butthey couldnt hold.They were massacred.Arab women strippedthem of their tunicsand their swords andlances. The soldierslay naked in the sun,two thousand yearsago; and I was here.

SCENE:

Patton, on bended knee, pauses,smiles knowingly, turns to asometimes bemused Bradley andsays:

DIALOGUE:

Patton: You dont believe me, do you Brad?You know what the poet said,

Through the travail ofages,midst the pomp andtoils of war,have I fought andstrove and perished,countless timesamong the stars.As if through a glassand darkly,the age old strife I see,when I fought in manyguises and manynames,but always me. *

Patton: Do you know who the poet was?

Bradley [Smiles slightly and shakes his


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head, no.]

Patton: Me.

A particularly evocative scene from the movie Patton, is it not? You get the sensethat he actually remembers the terrible scene of his fallen comrades. But what ofhis modern day army, those men he led in World War II? Tens of thousands ofthem willingly trusted his judgement in battle. Would they also follow him inmatters of the spirit? Would those who believe he was brilliant in battle alsobelieve that that insightfulness can be brought to bear in other areas of life?

George Patton believed in reincarnation. He remembered fighting the Romans asa Carthaginian. Patton also believed he was with Napoleon as the flamboyant anddaring Marshal Ney.

I will make the case that one of Americas greatest generals, Patton, was one ofhistorys greatest generals, Hannibal through both parallels (habits ingrained)and lessons learned (opposite courses of action). Many can be explained ascoincidences but then, if there is such a thing as reincarnation, there are noaccidents. Do great generals just sprout up or are they made over countlesslifetimes, perfecting and honing their abilities? You be the judge:

1. Both grew up in wealthy families.

2. I swear that so soon as age will permit . . . I will use fire and steel toarrest the destiny of Rome. A very young Hannibal Barca said thiswhile standing next to his father, before an altar. George Pattondecided during childhood that his goal in life was to be a hero in themold of ancient Greek heroes. His father read to him Homers Iliad andOdyssey until the boy could recite the lines himself.

3. Both were avid horsemen.

4. Both entered the infantry. Patton had several other choices. Hannibalhad only two. Carthage was a famous seafaring city also.

5. Both cut their teeth in battle in a Spanish-speaking country, Patton inMexico and Hannibal in Spain.

6. Both were enamored with the use of heavy armor. Patton with histanks and Hannibal utilized armor-plated elephants like no one beforeor since, although they were often ineffective. He must have beenpretty pleased with the new innovation of tanks.


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7. Hannibals final defeat happened in North Africa. Patton joins WWIIby landing in North Africa. He rectifies the karmic record by winninnghis first major engagement.

8. The Roman consul Scipio studied Hannibals tactics to finally defeathim at Zama. (Among some of these were the use of horns which wereblown to scare the charging elephants into retreat, causing havoc inthe advancing Carthaginian lines.) Patton studied Rommels book andtactics to defeat his Panzer battalion in North Africa. It would be anironic case of karmic justice if Rommel and Scipio were one and thesame.

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Hannibal crossing the Alps; by Jacopo Amigoni. Bridgeman Art Library

9. Hannibal led one of the greatest, if not THE greatest march inhistory. With approximately 60,000 men, 20,000 or so cavalry and 100elephants, he started from Spain; crossed the Rhone River in France;then crossed the Alps in winter!. to attack Italy from the north.Patton was famous for getting his troops to move faster and beyond theexpectations of both the Allies and the German enemy. His Third Armyend run through France is a prime example. By coincidence thelongest terrain Hannibal had to cross was France as well.

10. Both of them would find ways to overcome obstacles that wouldstop others in their tracks, literally. They were both adept at crossingrivers. When crossing the Rhone, Hannibal created a gigantic raftcovered in dirt and plants to fool the elephants into getting on board. Itworked.

In a war game before WWII, Patton had to cross rivers without usingany existing bridge. A lieutenant came upon a tank sitting in a streamwith only its turret showing. Patton said to him: Their speed was nothigh enough when they hit the water. Im sure they could float all the wayacross the stream if they had hit the water at top speed! We gotta beable to cross this kind of stuff without bridges. It takes too much time tobuild a pontoon bridge for these little streams. He then proceeded toback up his tank 100 yards. The driver gunned it with only Pattonsticking out of the turret. Patton braced himself as the impact created agreat splash. The tank floated for a moment, the engine sputtered and


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the tracks finally caught hold on the other side, lifting the drenchedtank to the opposite bank. (From General Pattons Principles by PorterWilliamson)

11. There are two of Pattons principles that Williamson extrapolatedfrom that experience. They are in Pattons words:

1) We can always learn from each other.You watch me cross thisstream.You taught me that you reserve officers can solve problems. Letme show you how to get a tank across a river! and

20 Always do everything you expect of the men you command. Theseprinciples are perfectly consistent with the M. O. of Hannibal. He waswith the men every step of the way from Spain, into the Alps and on tothe plains of Italy, sharing their difficulties and triumphs.

Hannibal discovers the head of Hasdrubal; by Giovanni-Battista Tiepolo.Bridgeman Art Library

12. Hasdrubal, Hannibals brother (sometimes described as his brother-in-law) comes from Spain, crosses France and the Alps to aidHannibal; only to be defeated and killed almost immediately uponentering Italy. His head is sent to Hannibals camp. This had to be adevasting series of events for Hannnibal. First, he did not know thatHasdrubal was coming to his aid. When he did find out, couriers wereconstantly being intercepted by the Romans. He did not know the truesituation and so decides to wait in the south. The loss of Hasdrubals30,000-man army signaled a change in the fortunes of Hannibal. Theunexpectant arrival of Hasdrubals head must have been unnerving.Could it have had such an emotional impact that it would cloud hisjudgement in a future life? Pattons worst fiasco of the war was hisill-conceived plan to liberate the Allied prisoners of war in a prisoncamp at Hammelburg, Germany. He did not have enough intel, so not


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enough troops were sent. Not only were the prisoners recaptured, butthe troops he sent were captured also. Why the error in judgement?His son-in-law was a POW in that camp. Could this be the hiddencause and effect behind a failed mission that has baffled historians tothis day?

13. Hannibal spent about 17 years trying to subdue Rome. Inretrospect, his greatest error was in not attacking Rome directly. Someexperts say he lacked siege equipment therefore he didnt try; or thathe didnt want to destroy Rome, just split off city-states to reduce itspower. It would be his undoing. Patton, having learned from thatmistake over 2,000 years ago, was relentless in forging aheadwhenever he attacked. First he raced Monty to Messina and probablywould have finally been able to attack Rome, 2,000 years later, throughAnzio if not for the infamous slapping incident. He did prove for thefirst time in WWII that the Americans were a highly effective fightingforce. When he resumed command, he made a beeline for Berlin. Theyhad to slow him down, in fact. (FDR had promised Stalin EasternEurope. If Pattons Third Army had liberated Eastern Europe before theSoviets arrived, it would have been difficult politically for Roosevelt orTruman to just let those US-occupied countries become communist.

14. Elephants turned back on his own troops help to defeat Hannibal atZama. Lack of gasoline slowed down Pattons heavy armor.

15. Both fought martial, warlike states.

16. For a short while after his defeat, Hannibal ruled Carthage withdemocratic principles, trying to reduce the power of the oligarchy. Thatdidnt sit well with the powers that be. He was forced to leave. Pattonrefused to blindly condemn all Germans, even the SS, despite mediapressure. He was only interested in punishing the Nazis. Needless tosay, this put him at odds with the press and the higher brass,especially Eisenhower.

18. Both were an anathema to ruling governments once the fightingstopped. Hannibal was hounded all across the Mediterranean once hewas forced to leave Carthage. Patton was a duck out of water inadministering the conquered land.

19. Both men died a strange death. Chased till he could take it nomore, Hannibal committed suicide. Patton died an innocuous death in aminor traffic accident, though many believe to this day there was foulplay.

20. Both had an endearing personality and charisma to spare.Although each undoubtedly had a strong ego, their men would followthem anywhere. Indeed, no one has ever matched Hannibals ability.He kept a massive force of mercenaries together for over 15 years, onforeign soil without one mutiny.

21. Now look again at the two pictures you first saw at the top of this


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essay, but this time more closely.

Compare the mouth, chin, nose and eyes. The bust of Hannibal datesto about the Second Punic War. It was originally found at the ancientcity-state of Capua in Italia. Capua was closely allied to the general,and it possibly commissioned the bust in honor of him. It alsocorresponds well with Carthago-Phoenicians coins and may be said tobe a true likeness of Hannibal. In addition, artists and sculptorssometimes have a knack for tuning into the soul of an individual,capturing the true essence of the man.

William House

Editor, Reverse Spins

The death of the Roman Consul Paullus at Cannae

Before Hannibals greatest battle and Romes worst defeat in history,Cannae, he stood with his commanders overlooking a terrifying sight.Roman legions and cavalry that outnumbered them two-to-one. One ofhis followers, called Gisgo, a Carthaginian of equal rank with himself,told him that the numbers of the enemy were astonishing; to whichHannibal replied with a serious countenance,

There is one thing, Gisgo, yet more astonishing, which youtake no notice of.

And when Gisgo inquired what, answered, that

In all those great numbers before us, there is not one mancalled Gisgo.

This unexpected jest of their general made all the company laugh, andas they came down from the hill, they told it to those whom they met,


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which caused a general laughter amongst them all.

(Source: http://www.geocities.com/nusso1/ )

[ If that doesn't sound like Patton, I don't know what does!--- theeditor]

Captain George S. Patton had never before visited Langres, a smalltown in northeastern France. But in December 1917, during WWI,having just arrived to operate a tank school, the American newcomerdeclined the offer of a local liaison officer to show him around the town,once the site of a Roman military camp.

You dont have to, Patton told the surprised young man, I know itwell. A staunch believer in reincarnation, Patton felt sure that he hadbeen to France before as a Roman legionnaire. As he led the waytrhough the area, he pointed out the sites of the ancient Romantemples and amphitheater, the drill ground, and the forum, evenshowing a spot where Julius Caesar had made his camp.

It was, Patton later told his nephew, : As if someone were at my earwhispering the directions from The Many Incarnations of George S.Patton

* Why there may be more behind Marshal Ney than meets the eye.

Patton Movie Script: Dialogue taken from movie.Scene descriptions from Reverse Spins Editor.

SCENE:

After Patton finishes speaking French to an aide, the sceneshifts to an elegant dinner. Patton is surrounded by seniorBritish officers. A few American officers are at the far end ofthe table.The British officer to his left compliments Georgeon the fine wine. Pattons culture and knowledge of historyis apparent. The ambience is set for an unusual revelation.Patton turns to Sir Harold on his right, the highest ranking


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Brit there and says:

DIALOGUE:

Patton: I think it was Alcibiades in the Peloponnesian War ,ah, 415 B.C., he said , if Siracusa falls, all Sicily falls, andthen Italy. He knew, you see, that Syracuse was the jugularof the island, and old Alcibiades always went for the throat. Ipropose to take Sicily in the same way

SCENE:

Patton gives a short explanation of the plan using a map.The British are impressed. Patton raises his glass in a toastand says:

DIALOGUE:

Patton: To the conquest of Sicily.

Sir Harold: You know George, youd have made a greatMarshal for Napolean, if you had lived in the 18th century.

Patton: But I did Sir Harold, I did.

SCENE:

Everyone laughs, no one harder than Sir Harold and Patton.The toast is finished and the scene ends.

Michel Ney By MeynierNational museum of the Castle of Versailles and Trianon

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===============Wikipedias article

This article is fairly accurate:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reincarnation

What it does NOT go into is WHY rulers would discourage acceptance of reincarnation..because they wantsubjects who are afraid to die.

People afraid to die do not revolt.

And ARYANS afraid to die do not revolt.

Most white Christians do NOT really believe in God or the afterlife not as their faith teaches them. You can see itby their EXTREME fear of death (which shows they dont REALLY believe in the Christian heaven) and by theirbehavior in life, which is shameless and shows no fear of divine retribution.

They act like atheists!

.atheists as in Dostoyevskys famous proverb:

If there is no God, everything is permitted.

They act like people who think they have just one life to live and they might as well grab all the gusto theycan.

AND THAT IS WHAT THE JU WANTS: A HEDONISTIC PEOPLE SEEKING ANIMAL PLEASURES AND TERRIFIEDTO DIE the GOYEEM, in Hebrew, the CATTLE. A totally dereligionized, despiritualized animal herd..focusedon stomach and genitalia, pursing pleasure and fleeing pain.

Solutreanism is the certainty that every thought, word and deed, and every duty peformed or NOT performed, haseternal consequences, and that in the moment of death you SEE the effects of your life on the lives of others.


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The famous Viking prayer, the real kind of prayer Vikings would said as death or victory approached, with wordstaken from various heathen Germanic sources.

===============A MARINE FROM WISCONSIN WRITES

I got a HUGE response to a radio show I did on reincarnation and typical of it was men who told me they felt ahypnotic attraction to the SS as small boys, and a horror of cold and snow also

Here is what a new friend and comrade wrote me, also a former Marine with Heartland roots:

* * *

I never give reincarnation a real lot of thought, but have thought about it some. I think it sure is possible.

Now you have read me online talking about my German heritage.

Well, I can remember as a kid. I think maybe in the fourth grade (I went to a Catholic grade school) we were doingbook reports. I dont remember what book report or subject I was doing, but a friend of mine (I still remember himand this moment Im about to tell you about, and that was 30 years ago) was doing his book report on WWII.

http://www.abfar.co.uk/_images/36236.jpg

Well, Jack had some books on the Army, Navy, Marines and so forth. No big deal, and I didnt give them a secondthought. Then I saw one book he had. It was Waffen SS the Asphalt Soldiers. I grabbed that book as if I weremesmerized. I just looked at the cover in a daze and quickly thumbed through the pictures like I was looking forsomeone or something. I begged him to let me borrow it, and he did. I ran home with it and studied this book fromcover to cover. I actually thought I knew these men. I was more giddy about this book that I came across then Iwould have been at Christmas receiving a train.

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[JdN: Btw, this book, which I also own, was written by a John Keegan who was not yet prestigious enough(he is now "Sir" John Keegan) to dare on his own to really praise the Germans as they deserved -- as he laterdid in Six Armies at Normandy. In this strangely named "Asphalt Soldiers" book (http://www.amazon.com/Waffen-SS-The-Asphalt-Soldiers/dp/0345278984) Keegan barely manages to find any praise at all for thegreatest fighting force that ever existed in the last 4,000 years, and I say this as a proud former US Marine,admitting myself that the Waffen-SS was the ultimate elite among large military formations. But the pictureswere okay. ]

After 1929 the SS began to expand rapidly, and standards in personnel unsurprisingly began tolower. The political changes also led Hitler to call for the creation of a dedicated guard formation


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from the ranks of the SS, and instructed one of his oldest colleagues, First World War veteranJosef Sepp Dietrich, to set the wheels in motion. Dietrich quickly set about selecting a group ofmen applying rigorous standards, and by the spring of 1933 had established the SS-StabswacheBerlin, consisting of 117 men.

The primary role of this new Stabswache was the guarding of the Reich Chancellery [in downtownBerlin], and as a result they were quickly given the nickname asphalt soldiers.


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Of course, none of the units detractors would have known that of these initial 117 men, over sixtywere to become company commanders or above, with three becoming divisional commanders.(http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question120972.html)

Now I was maybe eight years old and felt so strongly about these SS men. Also, when growing up as a kid I havelong since grown out of it I hated winter and the cold. Growing up, I would get upset and almost cry over icy coldweather. I live in Wisconsin and winters can be rough. It was something about winter I just could not stand. I wasmiserable and wished for warm weather. My cousins or sisters never gave winter a second thought, but for me Ithought it was tragic. I didnt join the Marines because I was a wimp, but the cold really bothered me..

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I replied:

* * *

Your experience seeing that Waffen-SS book sent chills down my spine. That is just how I felt staring at that Hitlerstamp (see below). I think MANY of our fellow WN activists will see themselves in your story! That ATTRACTION forGerman things..was WAY beyond anything we were getting culturally as kids in our environment..Hey, afterWWII Germanys name was mud in America and there was no pro-German talk going on at MY kitchen table in the1950s. My dad fought in WWII and conformed to the Hitler-was-evil line, which is why he snatched away thatframed Hitler stamp. My mother and father both had many jewish friends.

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=================MY EERIE HITLER STAMP EXPERIENCE

I had the strangest experience at around age five when I first saw a picture of this man. I had discovered a framedstamp at my grandfathers house whicH displayed him as chancellor of the German Reich. I found myself juststaring at it in some strange feeling of connectedness for 15 minutes until my father came upstairs, scolded mefor ignoring him and confiscated the framed stamp, telling me Hitler was a bad man, a very bad, bad man (which iswhat Roosevelt had told American GIs such as my father).


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Right after this, again at the age of five, I began studying my first foreign language, German, in great earnest, andwas able to hold a little conversation a year later in German with a lady from Deutschland on a flight from Providenceto Pittsburgh to see my great-grandmother, ne Berlin, at her home in Greensburg.

It was one of those inexplicable occurrences seemingly silly, a stamp with an unknown foreign leader impacting amere five-year-old a strange event.such as actually many people have, but they usually do not talk about it.

But such mysterious feelings mark the person.

I felt neither affection nor hatred for Hitler gazing at his visage, just distance, as if that man represented somethingsomehow important but that had to stay firmly in the PAST someone perhaps to be inspired by, to be learnedfrom, and then resolutely moved beyond.

I felt and I feel that we must look FORWARD. (And this leads me further on to Thomas Jefferson.)

Two main things in Mein Kampf turned me off one, the concept of the genius-dictator, which Hitler called theFhrerprinzip. Certainly, the giving of total power to a genius can work wonders, but what happens when heinsists on a disastrous decision?


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And that disastrous decision was my second turn-off Operation Barbarossa, June 22, 1941, which was NOTmeant to liberate Russia but to chase out the Soviets and then install a German occupation regime in the east,taking their land and making them slaves of Greater Germany.

No one could persuade Hitler to change that policy, which was of long standing. He had enunciated it in Mein Kampfin 1925, reiterated it in the Second Book in 1928, and ordered it implemented in Operation Barbarossa in 1941. Itwas not until September 1944 that he completely changed gears and allowed the Russian patriot, General Vlassov,to establish a Russian National Liberation Army, but by then Germany had suffered the debacle at Stalingrad andwas already doomed and in full retreat. Seven months later Hitler was dead, and the unlucky Vlassov was laterstrangled by order of Stalin.

Lesson? Even a genius, and whatever his sincere love for his people, and his previous achievements forthem, must never get absolute power where a High Council cannot overrule him for the sake of thenations survival.

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==============addendum

I received this commentary in German, referring to the Jeff in Chicago whose story is found above, and mytranslation of this German text follows below.

Alexandra Wunder May 11, 2013 at 12:34 am [edit]


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Dear John and dear Jeff,

Zur Idee, dass sich die Waffen-SS reinkarnieren knnte, habe ich eine erstaunliche Geschichte gehrt dieletzten Wochen. Ein Freund von mir erzhlte mir die Geschichte.

Wiederum eine Freundin von ihm, sie ist alleinerziehend mit einem vierjhrigen Sohn, den sie Marlin (oder sohnlich) genannt hatte.

bers Wochenende war Marlin bei seinem Vater und whrend dieses Wochenendes trumte die Mutter, siewre von diesem Kind bereits in einem frheren Leben die Mutter gewesen und zwar zur Zeit des 2.Weltkrieges, und ihr Sohn htte damals Klaus geheissen und wre Soldat gewesen.

Als ihr kleiner Sohn nach dem Wochenende beim Vater Hause kam, hat sie ihn gefragt: Na Marlin, wie wardas Wochenende bei deinem Papa? Was habt Ihr so zusammen gemacht?

Marlin antwortete: Ich heie nicht Marlin, ich heie Klaus.

Die Mutter des Kindes hat in ihrem Erstaunen direkt beim Vater des Kindes angerufen und hat nachgefragt, obirgendein Klaus-Besuch war oder irgendein Gesprch stattfand, das sich auf irgendeinen Klaus httebeziehen knnen und da war nichts in irgendeiner Richtung, dass eine Klaus-Aussage htte inspirierenknnen.

Wer wei???

Alles Gute und Liebe,Alexandra Wunder

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John de Nugent May 11, 2013 at 10:07 pm [edit]

This is a TRANSLATION into English of the German comment above.

***

Alexandra Wunder May 11, 2013 at 12:34 am [edit]

Dear John and dear Jeff,

On the idea that the Waffen-SS men could reincarnate, I have an amazing story from the last few weeks. Afriend of mine told me the story.

A friend of his in turn is a single mother with a four-year-old son whom she had named Marlin (or somethingsimilar).

Over the weekend Marlin was with his father and during this weekend when he was away his mother dreamedshe had been the mother of this child in a previous life, during the time of the Second World War II, and herson had then been called Klaus and was a soldier.

When her young son after the weekend at his fathers house came home to her, she asked him: Well, Marlin,how was the weekend with your dad? What did you two do together?

Marlin said, My name is not Marlin, my name is Klaus.

The childs mother, astounded (this was right after her dream) called the father of the child and asked if anyKlaus visitor had been by or was a Klaus the topic of any conversation over the weekend, someone to whomthe name Klaus referred and there was nothing at all in any direction that could have inspired him to sayhis real name was Klaus.

Who knows?

Best wishes and love,


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Alexandra Wunder

============MY VIDEOS ON GOD, IMMORTALITY AND REINCARNATION

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http://www.democratic-republicans.us/about-john/videos-of-jdn-speaking============EMAIL REACTION.A comrade wrote me:

.I listened to the interview you did with Tom Metzger that dealt with reincarnation. Good job![Part One (March 20, 2013): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y23DMQydKx8 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukEOsKDXUEg ]I have read some of the research that you mentioned in regards to reincarnation. I am not a believer yet but I do notreject the possibility. There are some very interesting cases that indicate that some people have some kind ofconnection with the past. That opens the door to some fascinating possibilities from some type of shared ancestralconsciousness to reincarnation..My reply:.Right, well, the kids in the two thousand five hundred U. Va. case studies are very specific that they WERE thatperson, not just knowing about them..

.This explains knowing nicknames of pets, quirks of family members, trees that used to stand next to the house andno longer do, they talk about their first car as a teenager, a Studebaker . etc., and a seven-year-old (now calledJames Leininger) who knew the secret nicknames of his fellow 1945 Navy pilots at a veterans reunion in 2003 These kids know a lot more than Jungian archetypes. They know things ONLY a family member would know.


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.James Leininger at a veterans reunion of the USS Natoma Bay aircraft carrier. As USN Lieutenant James Huston inhis last life he was shot down by Japanese anti-aircraft fire at the battle of Iwo Jima and drowned when he could notkick open his glass cockpit. (The ejection seat was invented by the Third Reich and US pilots did not have it.) My

late father, then a Marine on the beach, might even have seen Lieutenant Hustons plane hit the water.

.James Huston and James Leininger; often there is SOME physical resemblance, like that between relatives, but not

the same face. Compare their chins, eyes and nose shapes The energy of the soul that forms the next physicalbody is different, especially when a person has spent decades on the other side before returning. There are many

worlds on the other side, some nice, some not..

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