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`ar vapireb

quTaisSi

Casvlas da

saakaSvilis

gamosvlaze

daswrebas~mixeil saakaSvilis saxiT Cven saqme gvaqvs Za-

lauflebaze Seyvarebul Tavgzaabneul diqta-

torTan, xolo nacionaluri moZraobis saxiT -

sakuTari politikuri TviTganadgurebis gzaze

mdgar, erTi kacis axirebebs ayolil, Tavisuf-

lebawarTmeul adamianebTan, romelTa sityvas

Calis fasi unda daedos qveynis SigniTac da

qveynis gareTac.

f r agm e n t i s a p a r la m e n t o u m r a v le s o b i s f r a q c i e b i s m i m a r T v i da n

kriminali

mcxeTuradpornoindustria qarTul cixeebSi

`nacmoZraoba~ biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg mediasabotaJs amzadebs _ erTi gazeTis angariSze ukve daido 2 milioni!

`me dRes Tavs Sevikaveb da ar vasaxeleb arc im ga-

zeTs da arc mis mflobels, magram erTi ram ki minda

xmamaRla vTqva: batonebo, asi procentiT darwmune-

buli var, rom sul male ramdenime mediagamocema

droebiT daixureba da amis mizezad (aseve aucileb-

lad) axali xelisuflebis mxridan presaze zewola da

finansuri problemebi dasaxeldeba.~

Sizofreniis sezoni

`nacionalebi~ 21-e saukunis

actekebi arian, romlebic

qveyanas msxverplSewirvis

ritualebiT marTavdnen

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Z v i r f a s omkiTxvelebo!

bodiSs gix-

diT, rom Cvengan

damoukidebeli

mizezebis gamo

TiTqmis erTi

Tvea, ar Sevxved-

rivarT erTma-

neTs.

Tumca, rogorc ityvian, zogi Wi-

ri margebelia _ am erTma Tvem dag-

vanaxa, Tu ramdeni gulSematkivari

hyolia `saerTo gazeTs~.

am xnis ganmavlobaSi gulwrfelad

Sewuxebuli uamravi adamiani rekavda

redaqciaSi da TanagrZnobas da Ta-

nadgomas gvicxadebda.

didi madloba yvelas, vinc Segvex-

miana da aseve didi madloba maT,

vinc ar Segvxmianebia, magram yovel

oTxSabaTs vitrinebsa da stelaJebze

eZebda `saerTo gazeTs~.

mkiTxveli hgavs im gazeTs, ro-

melsac kiTxulobs da piriqiT, gaze-

Ti hgavs Tavis mkiTxvels.

Cven SesaniSnavi mkiTxvelebi

gvyavs _ ganaTlebuli, gonieri, pat-

rioti adamianebi, namdvili qarTve-

lebi...

kidev erTxel didi madloba yve-

las erTgulebisa da TanadgomisTvis.

redaqtoris sveti

tteelleekkoommppaanniieebbii ssaaaavvttoorroo uufflleebbeebbiiss

lliicceennzziieebbss aaffoorrmmeebbeenn guSin, 12:00 saaTze, telekompaniebsa

da saqarTvelos saavtoro uflebaTa aso-

ciacias Soris salicenzio SeTanxmebebi

gaformdeba. licenziebis safuZvelze, te-

lekompaniebis: sazogadoebrivi mawyeblis,

rusTavi 2-is, teleimedis, GDS-is, kavka-siis da sxva televiziebis eTerebSi sa-

avtoro uflebebis gamoyenebisTvis hono-

rarebi iqneba gadaxdili, rasac asociaci-

is meSveobiT avtorebi miiReben.

rogorc saavtoro uflebaTa asocia-

ciaSi acxadeben, telekompaniebis mier

aseTi licenziebis SeZeniT mniSvnelovnad

Semcirdeba saavtoro uflebebiT daculi

produqciis unebarTvod gamoyeneba da

yvela avtori kuTvnil honorars miiRebs.

aseve mkveTrad gaizrdeba saqarTveloSi

saavtoro uflebebis daculobis maCvene-

beli, rac saboloo jamSi xels Se-

uwyobs inteleqtualuri sakuTrebis le-

galuri moxmarebis kulturis danergvas.

SeTanxmebas xels moaweren telekom-

paniebis xelmZRvanelebi da saqarTvelos

saavtoro uflebaTa asociaciis Tavmjdo-

mare giga kobalaZe.

4 Tebervali, 2013istoriis Carxs ukan veravin daabru-

nebs - Tundac uprecedento konstituciu-

ri uflebebiT aRWurvili mixeil saakaSvi-

li. Tumca, qveynis winsvlis xanmokle Se-

ferxeba bevr movlenas SeuZlia - maT So-

ris, politikuri perspeqtivis gareSe

darCenili mixeil saakaSvilis SesaZlo

morig upasuxismgeblo nabijs.

koaliciis liderma biZina ivaniSvilma

swored amgvari Seferxebis safrTxe aaci-

la qveyanas, rodesac yvelasTvis naTeli

gaxada, Tu ra cdunebas iyo ayolili mi-

xeil saakaSvili da rogor amzadebda nia-

dags (gansakuTrebiT qveynis gareT) mori-

gi avantiurisaTvis - me, iseTi superdemok-

rati prezidenti var, rom arCevnebSi da-

marcxebac ki vaRiare, magram diqtator

ivaniSvils katastrofisken mihyavs qveyana

da amitom iZulebuli var, Sevasrulo

konstituciiT dakisrebuli valdebuleba

da xelisuflebas Camovacilo misi mTav-

robao.

amgvari nabijis cdunebas mas uqmnida

2004 wlis konstituciuri cvlilebebiT

Seqmnili meqanizmi, romlis gamoyenebiTac

SesaZlebeli gaxda xalxisa da parlamen-

tis ndobis mqone mTavrobis garekva da

mxolod misi neba-ssurvilis Semsrulebeli

mTavrobis daniSvna.

am sakiTxze veneciis komisiis daskvna

imTaviTve calsaxad uaryofiTi iyo. dask-

vnaSi naTqvamia: „am SemoTavazebis gaziare-

ba rTulia. amgvar mTavrobas [parlamentis

Tanxmobis gareSe daniSnuls] ar eqneba le-

gitimuroba. rodesac parlamenti samjer

uaryofs prezidentis mier SeTavazebul

mTavrobas, prezidents ar unda SeeZlos

iseTi premieris daniSvna, romelic parla-

ments ar aurCevia. mas unda SeeZlos par-

lamentis daTxovna da moqmedi premier-mmi-

nistrisTvis movaleobebis Sesrulebis da-

kisreba arCevnebis dasrulebamde“ (veneci-

is komisiis daskvna #281/2004. marti,

2004).

miuxedavad amisa, konstituciis es Ca-

naweri 9 wlis ganmavlobaSi SeumCneveli

darCa demokratiul samyaros, vinaidan sa-

akaSvili axerxebda yvelasTvis TvalSi

nacris Seyras. mxolod parlamentSi ini-

cirebulma konstituciurma cvlilebebma

gaxada yvelasTvis naTeli, Tu rasTan da

visTan gvaqvs saqme. yvelasTvis cxadi gax-

da isic, Tu rogor farisevlobda

saakaSvili damarcxebasTan Seguebis

Temaze da ras emsaxureboda misi pi-

arkampania ucxoeTSi.

saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobis

warmomadgenlebi gaocebiT kiTxu-

loben, nuTu marTla weria saqarT-

velos konstituciaSi, rom prezi-

dents xalxis da parlamentis

ukiTxavad SeuZlia Seqmnas mTavroba

da mas amarTinos qveyanao... amgvari

Canaweri, ase konstituciurad gamya-

rebuli diqtatura xom demokrati-

ulobis pretenziis mqone msoflios

arc erT saxelmwifoSi ar arsebobs!

swored es miuTiTa veneciis komisiis

prezidentma jani bukikiom 2013 wlis 31

ianvars TbilisSi yofnisas: „aris rigi

mniSvnelovani da gadaudebeli cvlilebe-

bi, romlebic saswrafod unda iqnes miRe-

buli da mesmis, rom es unda gakeTdes imi-

saTvis, rom parlamentma da mTavrobam

stabilurad imuSaos. aucileblia, Seicva-

los konstitucia, raTa saxelmwifos me-

Tauris Zalauflebis limitireba moxdes,

romelic mas uflebas aZlevs, rom mTavro-

ba daiTxovos da parlamentis Tanxmobis

gareSe axali mTavroba airCios“ (pirwe-li.com.ge 17:40 31.01. 2013).

amdenad, Tavad konstituciuri cvli-

lebebis inicirebis faqtic ki sakmarisi

aRmoCnda imisaTvis, rom saakaSvilis gegma

CaSliliyo - axla arc misi „kohabitaci-

uri“ survilebis WeSmaritebis sjera vin-

mes da aRarc misi konstituciuri meqaniz-

mebis. Sesabamisad, igi dResve, sanam kons-

tituciaSi jer kidev arsebobs es Canawe-

ri, ukve uZluria gamoiyenos es iaraRi. am

iaraRiT mas mxolod sakuTari politiku-

ri TviTmkvleloba SeuZlia.

nacionaluri moZraoba, cxadia, Tavisu-

falia arCevanSi. maT SeuZliaT mxari dau-

Wiron am cvlilebebs da amiT ara marto

warsulis simaxinjeze Tqvan uari, aramed

politikuri momavlis-

Tvisac gadadgan swori

nabiji; an, maT SeuZli-

aT uari Tqvan cvlile-

bebis mxardaWeraze da

amiT mTeli msoflios

gasagonad gaacxadon Ta-

vianTi WeSmariti poli-

tikuri zraxvebi da mo-

mavlis xedva.

cvlilebebis gan-

xilvis procesSi umci-

resobis calkeuli war-

momadgenlebis mxridan

daisva sakiTxi parla-

mentis daTxovnis 6-

Tviani SezRudvebis

moxsnis mizanSewonilobasTan dakavSire-

biT. Cveni winadadeba miznad isaxavda Cvens

politikur mzaobas, nebismier dros migve-

ca xalxisTvis arCevanis saSualeba. magram,

Tu nacionaluri moZraobis TvalTaxedvi-

dan es novacia raime safrTxes Seicavs,

Tanaxma varT, vimsjeloT da gaviziaroT

maTi winadadeba, Tu igi mkafiod da saja-

rod iqneba gamoTqmuli.

konstituciur cvlilebebTan dakavSi-

rebiT poziciebi unda gamokveTon ara mar-

to politikurma gundebma, aramed TiToe-

ulma parlamentarma da politikosma. ar

gamovricxavT, rom nacionaluri moZraobis

calkeulma wevrebma CaTvalon, rom es is

Tema da sakiTxia, romelzec isini indivi-

dualurad arian pasuxismgebeli xalxis

winaSe da mxari dauWiron xalxisTvis Za-

lauflebis dabrunebas miuxedavad imisa,

Tu ra iqneba mixeil saakaSvilis pozicia.

arCevani maTzea!

im SemTxvevaSic ki, Tu saakaSvilma

swori nabijis gadadgmis saSualeba ar

misca arc mis gunds da arc mis calkeul

warmomadgenlebs da konstituciurma

cvlilebebma xmaTa saWiro raodenoba ver

miiRo, koalicia „qarTuli ocnebis“ po-

litikuri mizani mainc miRweuli iqneba. am

SemTxvevaSi demokratiuli samyaro sabo-

lood darwmundeba, rom mixeil saakaSvi-

lis saxiT Cven saqme gvaqvs Zalauflebaze

Seyvarebul Tavgzaabneul diqtatorTan,

xolo nacionaluri moZraobis saxiT - sa-

kuTari politikuri TviTganadgurebis

gzaze mdgar, erTi kacis axirebebs ayo-

lil, TavisuflebawarTmeul adamianebTan,

romelTa sityvas Calis fasi unda daedos

qveynis SigniTac da qveynis gareTac.

ra unda uTxran am cvlilebebisTvis

xmis armimcemebma qarTvel xalxs? - mar-

Talia, konstituciis es Canaweri jer ki-

dev 2004 wels dagmo veneciis komisiam,

marTalia 2010 wlis Cvens mierve Setani-

li cvlilebebiT igi 10 Tvis Semdeg gauq-

mdeba, marTalia am 10 Tvis ganmavlobaSi

prezidenti mainc ar apirebs am uflebamo-

silebiT sargeblobas, marTalia cota xnis

win Cvenve davuWireT mxari am cvlilebe-

bis ganxilvas, magram miSas ewyineba kons-

tituciuri diqtatoris regaliis CamorT-

meva da amitom xmas ver mivcemT am cvli-

lebaso... simboluria, rom aq saubaria

swored prezidentobis vadis im 10 Tveze,

romelic mixeil saakaS-

vils isedac miTvisebu-

li aqvs konstituciuri

manipulaciebisa (2006

wlis cvlilebebi) da

TvalTmaqcobis (2007

wels prezidentobidan

gadadgomis gancxadebis

dagvianebiT gaformeba)

gziT. amrigad, sruliad

naTelia - vinc Tavs

aaridebs SemoTavazebu-

li cvlilebisTvis xmis

micemas, igi akeTebs ar-

Cevans erTi kacis axire-

bis sasargeblod da

qarTuli saxelmwifos

sawinaaRmdegod, anu acxadebs, rom „saxel-

mwifo, es saakaSvilia“. Cven ki vacxadebT,

rom „saxelmwifo, es qarTveli xalxia“.

amitom, dReidan sajaro saparlamento

da satelevizio debatebSi viwvevT parla-

mentSi nacionaluri moZraobis TiToeul

warmomadgenels Temaze - „saakaSvili Tu

saqarTvelo, diqtatura Tu xalxis mmar-

Tveloba“. wlebis ganmavlobaSi saakaSvi-

lis zurgs ukan mimalul adamianebs, rom-

lebic personalurad arasodes araferze

agebdnen pasuxs, mouwevT sakuTari azris

mkafiod dafiqsireba konkretul sakiTxze

- unda CamoerTvas Tu ara prezidents

xalxis da parlamentis Tanxmobis gareSe

mTavrobis Secvlis ufleba. am sakiTxze

arCevanis gakeTebisas veravin veravis

zurgs ver amoefareba da verc demagogiu-

ri xrikebiT SeZlebs sxva TemebiT mis ga-

dafarvas. parlamentis wevrebma, romlebic

Tavs iwoneben xalxis rCeulis statusiT,

Tvali unda gausworon sazogadoebas da

sakuTar Svilebs (da ara Cven an biZina iva-

niSvils) da ganacxadon - „ki“ Tu „ara“.

es ar aris morigi politikuri

sakiTxi, romelzec msofmxedve-

lobidan gamomdinare SeiZleba

ori met-nnaklebad swori pasuxi

arsebobdes, es aris fundamentu-

ri sakiTxi imis gasarkvevad, Tu

sinamdvileSi ras emsaxureba Ti-

Toeuli Cvengani - xalxs Tu diq-

tators. Sesabamisad, am pasuxze

iqneba damokidebuli Cveni damoki-

debuleba TiToeuli maTganisadmi

- vinc ityvis „ki“, masTan Cven

vxedavT TanamSromlobis Tu opo-

nirebis azrs da SesaZleblobas

sxva sakiTxebzec; vinc ityvis

„ara“, mis mosmenaze da masTan debatebze

Cven dros ver davkargavT verc nebismier

sxva sakiTxze.

d. saganeliZe -

saparlamento umravlesobis lideri

z. qucnaSvili - fraqcia „qarTu-

li ocneba“

d. berZeniSvili -

fraqcia „qarTuli ocneba -

respublikelebi“

i. Ciqovani - fraqcia

„qarTuli ocneba -

Tavisufali demokratebi“

g. bukia - fraqcia

„qarTuli ocneba -

konservatorebi“

saparlamento umravlesobis fraqciebis

m i m a r T v akonstituciuri cvlilebebis Taobaze

3#02 (236), 6-12.II, 2013 w. saerTo gazeTi

biZina ivaniSvili: `ar vapireb quTaisSi

Casvlas da saakaSvilis ga-

mosvlaze daswrebas. axals

arafers ityvis, albaT, sic-

rues moyveba, rogorc yo-

velTvis~.

* * *

`sasaciloa, roca “naci-

onaluri moZraoba” ideo-

logias gvaswavlis. saakaS-

vilma konstitucia ise ga-

dawera, rogorc Tavad un-

doda. saqarTvelos evroat-

lantikuri arCevani saakaS-

vilis da baqraZis arCeuli

ar aris, es qarTveli xal-

xis arCevania, qarTvelebis

neba da xasiaTia, tyuilad

ambobs “nacionaluri moZra-

oba”, rom evropa maT aRmo-

aCines. am mimarTulebas aR-

moCena ar sWirdeboda. amas

konstituciaSi Cawera ra-

tom unda dasWirdes. is,

rom isini moTxovnebs ayene-

ben, gasaocaria~.

* * *

`Canergilebi~ CvenTan

ufro metia, amitom “Tavi-

sufal demokratebSic” Tu

arian, ar gamovricxav. “na-

cionaluri moZraoba” magis

ostatebi arian, seTuris

samsaxuri da a.S. amaSi

iraklis braleuloba ara-

feria. es “nacionalurma

moZraobam” imarjva da moa-

xerxa, Seeyvana iq sakuTari

xalxi. saganeliZesac alasa-

niaze da menejmentze ki ar

aqvs eWvi. saprotesto aqci-

ebze, ori kaci win koali-

ciis warmomadgeneli idga

da ukan “nacionalebi” masas

qmnidnen. igive xdeba kaxeT-

Sic. gasagebia, rom aqvT

imis mcdeloba, alasania ga-

daibiron Tavisken da gadai-

zidon. Worebi dadis, rom

xvdebian da aqvT amaT komu-

nikaciebi. Worebis saxiT

rac gavige, TviTon iraklis

SevekiTxe amaze da man miTx-

ra, rom araviTari kavSiri

ara aqvs da araviTari komu-

nikaciebi maTTan ara aqvs.

pirdapir vkiTxe, Worebis

doneze rac gavige, mawuxeb-

da. meti araferi SemiZlia,

giTxraT. garwmunebT, rom

jansaRi procesebia, patara

gadacdomac iyo, reaqciac

iyo. ra Tqma unda, Cvens

oponentebs es gauxardaT da

Tu laCars sajarod eZaxian,

albaT, cdiloben, TviTon

rom rogorme amasTan komu-

nikacia daamyaron da gundi

gaxliCon. es maTi jansaRi

mcdelobaa. me garwmunebT,

rom davwynardeT. vidre me

politikaSi var, vinc ar

unda gadaxtes da saiT ar

unda gadaxtes, araferi ar

moxdeba. sakuTar Tavs dai-

zianebs yvela, Tu amas gaa-

keTebs.~

* * *

`albaT, SeamCnieT, rom

saqarTveloSi daiwyo fase-

bis Semcireba. eleqtroe-

nergiis fasi 21%-27%-iT

Semcirda, sawvavis 10%-iT.

aseve SeiniSneba farmacev-

tuli produqciis 30-dan

70%-mde Semcirebis tenden-

cia. Tu es esea, imis maCve-

nebelia, rom biznesmenebma

yurad iRes, rom monopoli-

uri fasebi ar unda iyos da

TviTon daiwyes fasis dak-

leba”.

* * *

„saakaSvilma misi mTav-

robis im wevrebze isaubra,

romlebmac saqarTvelo da-

toves, yvelafris saaSkara-

oze gamotanas ar vapireb,

Tumca roca zurab adeiS-

vilze saubrobda, mixeil

saakaSvilma miTxra, marTa-

lia, adeiSvili gaiqca da

ver gavige, ratom gaiqca,

magram evropaSi tramvaiT

mogzaurobso. aq tramvai

aRar aris, ayares amaT rel-

sebi, magram ratom gaiqca,

Tu tramvaiT mogzaurobs?

Camovides da troleibusis

fuls mainc mivcemT“.

* * *

`gigi ugulava rom mSi-

Saraa, TviTon saakaSvilic

ambobda amas. Zalian mSiSara

kaci gamodga. absoluturad

jansaRi kiTxvebi arsebobs,

es faqtia da ara marto es

kiTxvebi, romelic dausves,

kidev sxva kiTxvebi arse-

bobs ugulavas irgvliv. ver

gabeda misvla da prokura-

turamac gaakeTa gamonakli-

si”.

* * *

`Tqven kargad gaxsovT

saakaSvili, merabiSvili,

ugulava, adeiSvili, Ziri-

Tadad es oTxeuli televi-

ziebiT gamodiodnen da vir-

tualur samyaros aRwerd-

nen, gansakuTrebiT saakaSvi-

li imeorebda xSirad, rom

qarTveli xalxi Zalian

bednieria, midis aRmSeneb-

loba, rogor gavxdiT la-

mis yvelaferSi pirvelebi.

am dros Tqven iciT, ra

xdeboda cixeebSi, rogor

icleboda soflebi. me mgo-

nia, rom es adamianebi, vinc

virtualur samyaros aR-

werdnen, cdilobdnen mosax-

leobaze sakuTari bedniere-

bis gavrcelebas. es adamia-

nebi iyvnen Zalian bedniere-

bi da cdilobdnen, televi-

ziebidan daexataT, rom

Cvenc bednierebi viyaviT,

amis paralelurad ki cixe-

ebi iyo amovsebuli. evropa-

Si pirvel adgilze swored

patimrebis raodenobiT vi-

yaviT.~

* * *

`1 Tebervlidan saqarTve-

los yvela mosaxle uzrun-

velofili iqneba minimalu-

ri sadazRvevo paketiT da

aprilidan srul pakets mi-

iRebs. aseve gaizarda sapen-

sio fondi, romelic 1 ap-

rilidan 125 laramde gaiz-

rdeba. 1 seqtembridan ki ga-

utoldeba saarsebo mini-

mums. da gaxdeba 150 lari.~

* * *

`1 ianvridan sagadasaxado

kanonmdeblobaSi Sevida cvli-

lebebi da keTilsindisieri

gadamxdeli gaTavisuflda ja-

rimebisgan. 1 Teberlidan pir-

vel agvistomde ganxorciel-

deba mciremiwian fermerTa

xelSewyobis proeqti. sof-

lis meurneobis fondi daafi-

nansebs am proeqts. miwebis

aRwera iyo mougvarebeli da

kardakaris principiT moxerx-

da maTi dadgena. darigdeba sa-

soflo sameurneo baraTebi.

rasac ar vpirdebodiT Cven

mosaxleobas es iyo samomxma-

reblo kreditebi 5 aTasidan

100 aTas laramde kreditebis

aReba SeeZlebaT fermerebs. 7

dan 8 % mde gadaixdian. da-

narCens fondi daafinansebs.

soflis meurnebas eqneba up-

recedento daxmareba glexebs.

unda movaxerxoT saboloo

jamSi rom glexi davubrunoT

miwas da avwioT Sromis fasi.

saerTo Tanxa pirdapiri dax-

marebisa da kreditebis saxiT

Seadgens 700 milion lars.

manam davexmarebiT sofels sa-

nam qarTveli glexi welSi ar

gaimarTeba.~

fragmentebi saqarTvelos premier-ministris biZina ivaniSvilis preskonferenciidan

`Seraton metexi palasi~, 05.02.2013

4 saerTo gazeTi #02 (236), 6-12.II, 2013 w.

uucnauurri situuaciaa dRes sa-

qqarrTveloSi – logikas da axsnas

rrom arr eqqvemdebarreba, iseTi.

uucnauurri situuaciaa dRes sa-

qqarrTveloSi – SizoffrreniasTan mi-

axloebuuli, arranorrmaluurri, ab-

suurrduuli situuacia, rromelsac

Tavisi uutiffrrobiT, uurrcxvobiT,

cinizmiT, Znelad Tuu moeZebneba

analogi.

yovelive amis kuulminacia ma-

inc evrrosabWWos is sxdoma iyo,

sadac prrezidentad wodebuulma

kacma, moqqalaqqe saakaSvilma,

uutiffrrobis yvelanairri rrekorrdi

moxsna da kidev errTxel, prrezi-

dentis rrangSi uukanasknelad, Sea-

yarra TvalSi nacarri evrropas da

danarrCen msoffliosac da rrac mTa-

varria, amjerrad uukve evrrosabWWos

maRali trribuunidan kidev errTxel

`daaSarrda~ Tavze qqveyanas, rromel-

sac saqqarrTvelo hqqvia.

demokratiaze, demokratiul

Rirebulebebze, adamianis ufle-

bebze xan inglisurad, xan fran-

gulad laparakobda kaci, romlis

mmarTvelobis periodSi 190-ze

meti politpatimari hyavda qveya-

nas, da sxdomaTa darbazidan ara-

vis, arc erT adamians ar

ukiTxavs utifarisTvis : - Tqven

demokratiaze saubars rogor be-

davT, roca amdeni politpatimari

gyavdaT gamomwyvdeuli Tqvens ge-

toebSi, romlebic mxolod axla-

xan gaaTavisufla axalma xeli-

suflebamo?

aravin, arc erTi adamiani ar

aRmoCnda sxdomis uamravi monawi-

lidan, romelic am SekiTxvas

dasvamda, ar aRmoCnda is qarTu-

li delegaciis im nawilSic, ro-

melic saparlamento umravleso-

bis saxeliT gaemgzavra stras-

burgSi da gamgzavrebamde magrad

iqadneboda: - ai, naxavT, ra Sav

dRes davayriT saakaSvils evro-

sabWos sxdomazeo.

erTaderTi, vinc qarTuli de-

legaciidan kiTxva dasva batoni

Tedo jafariZe iyo, Tumca kiTxva

iseTi `diplomatiur-padxalima-

Juri~ gaxldaT, sjobda, arc mas

amoeRo xma da yofiliyo TavisT-

vis gatrunuli da gayuCebuli.

Cxubis Semdeg muStebs ar iq-

neven, Tumca qarTuli delegaciis

warmomadgenlebma swored Cxubis

anu sxdomis damTavrebis Semdeg

iqnies muStebi: - saakaSvils

kiTxvebis dasmisTvis gankuTvnili

droc TviTon rom ar mieTvisebi-

na, iseTi CamWreli kiTxvebis das-

mas vapirebdiT, Zalian cud dRe-

Si CavagdebdiTo.

gansakuTrebuli mowadinebiT

mainc levan berZeniSvili igesle-

boda da dro ar gveyo, Torem

amas vizamdi da imas vizamdio, –

gvimtkicebda.

es is berZeniSvilia, romel-

mac am “istoriul” sxdomamde

cota xniT adre aseTi ram ga-

nacxada: - Cven unda vixsnaT saa-

kaSvilis imiji da qveynis imiji.

qveynis imijis xsnisa ra mo-

gaxsenoT, magram saakaSvilis imi-

ji ki namdvilad ixsnes saparla-

mento umravlesobis saxeliT ev-

ropaSi mivlinebulebma.

vin xarT, kaco, Tqven,_ `qarTuli ocnebis~mxardamWerebi da misiwarmomadgenlebi, TusaakaSvilis da “nac-moZraobis” faruli mo-kavSireebi da megobre-bi?

umravlesobidan

yvelaze metad mainc

irakli Ciqovanma ivaJ-

kaca da iseTi “padder-

Jka” gaukeTa saakaS-

vils, Cioras guli

auCvilda da cremlmo-

reulma ganacxada: _

misasalmebelia umrav-

lesobis saqcieli –

roca sakiTxi samSob-

los exeba, yvelani er-

Tad unda davdgeT, ro-

gorc es am sxdomaze

moxdao.

eWvi mepareba, rom

“nacmoZraobas” da Cven,

danarCen qarTvelebs,

erTi samSoblo gvqondes.

eWvi mepareba, radgan samSob-

los ise ar eqcevian, rogorc

“nacmoZraoba” am cxra wlis gan-

mavlobaSi moeqca.

“nacmoZraoba”, Tavis beladTan

erTad, ufro dampyrobels hgavda,

ufro zustad, viRacis mier daqi-

ravebul sadamsjelo saegzekucio

armias, romelic dasapyrobad bo-

Zebul qveyanas sastikad arbevda,

aoxrebda, Zarcvavda, mosaxleobas

cixeebSi yrida, adamianebs quCaSi

xocavda.

190 politpatimari,48 000 patimari, asobiTquCaSi daxvretiliadamiani, gaCanagebuliekonomika, qveynisTviswaglejili miliarde-bi, gasxvisebuli da ga-yiduli strategiulimniSvnelobis obieqte-bi, milionamde Ratakiadamiani, qveynidan gaq-ceuli asiaTasobiT mo-qalaqe – ai, saakaSvili-sa da “nacmoZraobis”cxrawliani “moRvaweo-bis” Sedegi da yoveliveamis Semdeg vis moutri-aldeba ena imis saTqme-lad, rom “nacionale-bisTvis” saqarTvelosamSoblo iyo?

umravlesobisa da umcireso-

bis erToblivi ZalisxmeviTa da

evropielTa daxmarebiT evrosab-

Wos rezoluciaSi ruseTis misa-

marTiT darCa sityva “okupanti”,

rac yvelam didi mniSvnelobis

warmatebad miiCnia.

sityva “okupanti” ki darCa,

magram aravis ukiTxavs moqalaqe

saakaSvilisTvis _ ratom qmnida

igi am okupaciisTvis xelsayrel

pirobebs, roca dalis xeobas ze-

mo afxazeTs arqmevda oficialu-

rad da xeobis damcvel svanebs

aniaraRebda?

aseve riT unda aixsnas is faq-

ti, rom saqarTvelos imJamindeli

prezidenti saakaSvili istori-

ul samaCablos aseve oficialu-

rad, yovelgvari egreT wodebu-

lis gareSe samxreT oseTad moix-

seniebda da iq arCevnebs atarebda,

ris Sedegadac saqarTvelos ofi-

cialurad, axali administraciu-

li erTeuli da mesame preziden-

ti vova sanakoevi Seemata Tavisi

mravalricxovani amaliT.

ratom aravin hkiTxa moqalaqe

saakaSvils, misi moqmedebebi ra-

tom iyo ase kargad morgebuli

okupantis gegmasTan?

xom ar iyo es faru-li garigeba okupant-Tan, anu Tavad batonisaakaSvilic okupantismokavSire xom ar aris,romelic okupantTanSejerebuli sqemis mi-xedviT moqmedebda dayvelafers akeTebda im-isTvis, rom afxazeTsada e.w. samxreT oseTsteritoriuli mTlia-noba aRedgina Tavis ad-ministraciul sazRvr-ebSi, rac SemdgomSi maT-Tvis damoukidebeli,suverenuli saxelmwi-foebis statusis mini-Webas gaaadvilebda.

2008 wlis agvistos omis

Semdgomi periodis movlenebs rom

vaanalizebT mxolod, ratom ar

vaanalizebT im movlenebs, rac am

oms uZRoda win?

maTSi xom SesaniSnavad Cans is

SemaZrwunebeli perspeqtiva, rac

axlo momavalSi gveloda?

maxsovs, imave adamianebma, rom-

lebic dRes saakaSvilis politi-

kuri sicocxlis gaxangrZliveba-

ze muSaoben Riad Tu malulad,

agvistos omis Semdeg omis Sede-

gebis da saakaSvilis braleulo-

bis moratoriumi gamoacxades,

riTac, faqtobrivad, ixsnes saa-

kaSvili qarTveli xalxis risx-

visgan.

isini axlac igives akeTeben

da TavianT uRirs saqciels pat-

riotuli motivebiT da qveynis

imijze zrunviT xsnian.

arada, qveynis imiji yvelaze

metad maSin ilaxeba, roca iseT

mmarTvels iTmens, rogoric saa-

kaSvili iyo.

Tumca ratom “iyo”? saakaSvi-

li isev aris da, rogorc TviTon

acxadebs, arsadac ar apirebs was-

vlas.

* * *

Sizofrenia vaxseneTzemoT...

adamianebis nervu-li sistema, adamiane-bis fsiqika didxansver gauZlebs im ciniz-miT da utifrobiT ga-zavebul fsiqologiurzewolas, im fsiqolo-giur terors, romel-sac “nacionalebi” axo-rcieleben saqarTve-los mosaxleobis wina-aRmdeg.

mTelma qveyanam icis, rom maT

uamravi danaSauli aqvT Cadenili

qveynisa da eris winaSe, risi da-

madasturebeli aseve uamravi faq-

ti arsebobs, Tumca “nacionalebi

mainc ar itexen ixtibars da ise

irjebian, TiTqos araferi daeSa-

vebinoT, TiTqos araferi momxda-

riyos.

samwuxarod, am aSkarad krimi-

nalur dajgufebas saerTaSoriso

arenaze mZlavri mokavSireebi da

mfarvelebi gamouCndnen, romle-

bic qarTvel xalxs da axal xe-

lisuflebas am kriminalur daj-

gufebasTan mSvidobiani Tanaarse-

bobisken mouwodeben.

qarTveli xalxis Seuracxyo-

faa es, udidesi Seuracxyofa da

abuCad agdebaa.

ramden xans SeiZleba es yve-

laferi iTminon adamianebma da

rodis dgeba is kritikuli zRva-

ri, roca didxans naTmeni risxva

erTbaSad amoxeTqavs ukontrolo,

yovlis wamlekav energiad?

“nacionalebi” Zveleburad aq-

tiuroben – gamudmebiT Canan maT

mier kontrolirebadi televizi-

ebis ekranebze, presis furcleb-

ze, saparlamento tribunaze, sa-

erTaSoriso arenaze, riTac qmni-

an iluzias, rom kvlav isini

akontroleben situacias da ara

“qarTuli ocneba”, romelic ko-

abitaciis valdebulebiT SeboWi-

li, mkveTri moZraobebis gakeTe-

bas erideba qveynis mtrad da ma-

oxreblad movlenili “nacmoZra-

obis” asalagmavad, rac sazoga-

doebis TvalSi “qarTuli ocne-

bis” sisusted da uZlurebad

aRiqmeba.

“nacionalebma” ician, rom

maTTan nebismieri saxis TanamS-

romloba, maTTan koabitacionobis

TamaSi “qarTuli ocnebis” mxri-

dan “qarTuli ocnebis” diskredi-

taciis da misTvis saxelis gatex-

vis uebari saSualebaa.

sazogadoebaSi, aki, gaCnda eW-

vi, rom “qarTuli ocneba” gari-

gebulia “nacionalebTan”.

es eWvi, rac dro ga-va, miT ufro gaZlier-deba da SeiZleba, erTmSvenier dRes jerje-robiT mxolod “nacio-nalebis” winaaRmdegarsebuli protesti`qarTuli ocnebis” wi-naaRmdeg protestSicgadaizardos, anu sa-zogadoebam es ori Za-la erTmaneTTan gaai-givos.

medmivi xaxunis da bRlarZu-

nis reJimSi yofna, nebsiT Tu

uneblieT, metoqes gaaxloebs da

gayvarebs kidec.

miT umetes, Tu es metoqe

sisxlsa da talaxSia amoTxvri-

li, am xaxun-bRlarZunis dros

Senc isvrebi da mas emsgavsebi.

Zalian kargad ician es yve-

laferi maT, vinc koabitaciis

Tema Semogvigdo da mtyuanic da

marTalic erT naRmze Segvsva.

* * *

am werilSi ramdenjerme vax-

seneT misi udidebulesoba qarT-

veli xalxi.

qarTveli xalxi – biZina iva-

niSvilTan erTad 1 oqtombris

mTavari gmiri, romelic am usas-

tikesi cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi

Zalmomreobas da tiranias ar Se-

uSinda da bolomde ibrZola ga-

marjvebisTvis.

is axla am gamarjvebas ar

daTmobs da statistisa da mov-

lenaTa Soridan mayureblis

rolsac didxans ver iguebs.

saerTaSoriso Tana-megobrobis azrsac pa-tivi unda vceT da racgasaziarebelia, undagaviziaroT, magram, pi-rvel rigSi, pativi un-da vceT qarTvel xa-lxs, pirvel rigSi, misRirsebas unda gavufr-TxildeT da mis xmas un-da mivugdoT yuri.

bolodroindelmaprocesebma kidev er-Txel cxadhyo, rom mo-cemul situaciaSi qar-Tvel xalxs sxva mokav-Sire, garda biZina iva-niSvilisa, ar hyavs, iserogorc biZina ivaniS-vils ar hyavs sxva mo-kavSire, garda qarTve-li xalxisa.

isini bedisweriT arian Sek-

rulni da maTi erToblivi da

SeTanxmebuli moqmedebaa saWiro.

ai, amis aRqma, amis gageba da

gacnobiereba aris is, riTac ne-

bismieri problema, nebismieri

dabrkoleba advilad daiZleva...

Sizofreniis sezonimocemul situaciaSi qarTvel kacs sxva

mokavSire, garda biZina ivaniSvilisa, ar hyavs,

ise, rogorc ar hyavs biZina ivaniSvils

sxva mokavSire, garda qarTveli xalxisa

vaxtang xarCilava

5saerTo gazeTi#02 (236), 6-12.II, 2013 w.

aris Tu ara politikuri

sabotaJi maSin, roca mZRo-

lebis, stiqiisgan dazarale-

bulebis, Teatraluri sazo-

gadoebis, sportis da a.S.

sferoSi axal-axali, yovel-

dRiuri skandalebis mowmeni

vxdebiT? ra Tqma unda, sabo-

taJia! Tumca, am sabotaJTagan

yvelaze saxifaTo mainc medi-

asabotaJi iqneba, romelsac

`nacionalebi~ `qarTuli oc-

nebis~ winaaRmdeg uaxloes

xanebSi amzadeben.

mogexsenebaT, 2003 wlis

noembridan moyolebuli

dRemde isev nac.moZraobis

marwuxebSia moqceuli me-

oTxe xelisuflebis, anu me-

diis didi nawili da maT So-

ris, eleqtronuli mediis

TiTqmis 90%!

aba, daakvirdiT im tele-

viziebs, romelTa gavrcele-

bis areali ara mxolod sa-

qarTvelos, aramed msoflios

mraval qveyanamde uproble-

mod xdeba? _ dameTanxmeT,

rom igive `rusTavi-2~, sazo-

gadoebrivi mauwyebeli, ìme-

di~, àWaris televizia~ da

TviT `maestroc~ ki, yovel-

dRiurad `nac.moZraobisTvis~

sasargeblo paTosiT aris ga-

jerebuli da Tu wamyvanebis

`feis-ganwyobasac~ kargad

davakvirdebiT, davinaxavT,

rom saqme marTlac cudad

aris...

cnobilia, rom `nacmoZra-

obas~ Tavisi favoriti medi-

asamsaxurebi yovelTvis hyav-

da da hyavs dResac, radgan

maT Tavis droze kargad Sea-

fases mediis ganusazRvreli

SesaZleblobebi masebze ze-

moqmedebis TvalsazrisiT da,

aqedan gamomdinare, xalxSi

popularuli televizia iqne-

boda es Tu sagazeTo gamoce-

ma, ise moaqcies sakuTar

klanWebSi, rom akontrole-

ben ki ara dRemde aZleven

dakveTebs garkveul mediamf-

lobelebs ama Tu im situaci-

aSi mediam rogor imoqmedos

da ra Sinaarsis paTosi unda

hqondes, magaliTad, gazeTis

pirvel `gamxsnel~ gverds!

magaliTad, ra qveteqstebi

unda ikiTxebodes responden-

tebisa Tu statiis avtore-

bis SekiTxvaSi. rogori `da-

balansebuli~ unda iyos Ta-

vad `mTavari Tema~ da, rac

yvelaze mTavaria, vin unda

gaakeTos komentari ama Tu im

skandalze, romelic ase ar

aklia Cvens yoveldRiurobas.

arc is aris axali, rom

finansuri krizisis umwvavesi

epoqaa Cvens media arsebobaSi

da aba, axla miTxariT, oRon-

dac, sakuTari ìmperiebi~ ga-

daarCinon zogierTma `vaiga-

zetCikebma~ Tu `vaitelevizi-

onSikebma~, ra gzas unda da-

adgnen? ra gzas da romelzec

aqamde idgnen, anu gzas, ro-

melic ara taZramde, aramed

did fulamde midis da am

fuls ki suni arc gasul sa-

ukuneebSi, imperator vespasi-

anes dros hqonda da arc

dRes aqvs, roca yvelaferi

iyideba, rac ki gasayidia da

rasac fasi jerjerobiT ki-

dev adevs.

`gaeTrieT, wadiT,TvaliT aRar damena-xoT arc erTi, vsio,vxurav gazeTs, idi-te na xui, mombezrdaTqveni uniWo `pros-tinebis~ kiTxva, ti-raJi daeca, Cemi gaze-Ti nel-nela kargavsmkiTxvels, fuls ra-Si gixdiT?~

_ am teqstiT galanZRa

ramdenime dRis win erT-er-

Tma cnobilma gamomcemelma

sakuTari TanamSromlebi da

daemuqra, rom sul male ga-

zeTs daxuravda.

saerTod, qarTul media-

sivrceSi, wlebis ganmavloba-

Si erTgvari monuri fsiqo-

logia Camoyalibda, kerZod,

Tuki vinme, romelime Jurna-

lists dagasaqmebT, gamodis,

rom 24-saaTian reJimSi eqsp-

luataciis uflebas nebayof-

lobiT aZlev, rasac gkarna-

xobs mTavari redaqtori Tu

gamomcemeli, imas asruleb!

da rac mTavaria _ nebismier

xelfasze Tanaxma xar, oRon-

dac umuSevari ar darCe.

arada, Zvirfaso Jurna-

listebo, damisaxeleT Tun-

dac erTi gazeTis, Tundac

erTi Jurnalis, anda televi-

ziis xelmZRvaneli, romelic

Cvens gareSe moipovebda imas,

rasac wlebis ganmavlobaSi

Soulobda Tundac finansuri

kuTxiT? aRarafers vambob

politikosebze, romlebic,

faqtobrivad, Cven SevqmeniT.

rom ara Cveni viruli muSao-

bis reJimi, Cveni ukompromi-

soba da, gnebavT, Tavganwirva

Cveni saqmis mimarT _ rome-

lime gazeTi, anda televizia

ramed ivargebda? madloba

RmerTs, rom zogierTi qarT-

veli Jurnalisti, miuxedavad

yvelafrisa, simarTlis Tqmas

nebismieri media mflobelis

xelSic axerxebs, magram ris

fasad? damcirebis, Semcire-

bis safrTxis da mwiri

anazRaurebis fasad, xom?

aba, miTxariT, isedac mwi-

ri xelfasis pirobebSi, ise-

dac riskis qveS muSaobis pi-

robebSi da mudmivi sakadro

Semcirebis SiSis reJimSi,

romeli Jurnalisti Seubru-

nebs sityvas mflobels da ar

gaakeTebs imas, rasac hkarna-

xoben? hoda, radgan aseTi vi-

Tarebaa da radgan mediagamo-

cemebis mflobelebi kvlav

`nacmoZraobis~ valSi arian,

gikvirT is, rac mediaSi xde-

ba? arada, merwmuneT, rom

marTlac gulisamrevi viTa-

rebaa gazeTebsa Tu televi-

ziebSi, Torem, vin gdia viRac

tlu da gazuluqebuli esa

Tu is mflobeli, karg Jur-

nalistebs samsaxuridan gay-

riT emuqrebodes da Tanac

aSantaJebdes? rogor unda

bedavdes igive mflobeli

sazRvrebs gareT gaiparos,

erT-erTi piramidis misadgo-

mebTan `nac.moZraobis~ lide-

rebs Sexvdes da amis Semdeg

gazeTis daxurviT daemuqros

im adamianebs, romlebmac

wlebis ganmavlobaSi, nebismi-

eri xelisuflebisgan mxo-

lod maTraxi igemes?

me dRes Tavs Sevi-kaveb da ar vasaxelebarc im gazeTs da arcmis mflobels, mag-

ram erTi ram ki min-da xmamaRla vTqva:batonebo, asi pro-centiT darwmunebu-li var, rom sul ma-le ramdenime media-gamocema droebiTdaixureba da amis mi-zezad (aseve auci-leblad) axali xeli-suflebis mxridan

presaze zewola dafinansuri proble-mebi dasaxeldeba.

isic kargad vici, rom Tu-

ki saqarTvelos dRevandeli

xelisufleba marTlac da-

iwyebs dubais mgzavrebis aR-

ricxvianobis Jurnalis Se-

mowmebas, rogorc Jurnalis-

tebTan Sexvedrisas gela ze-

delaSvilma mouwoda biZina

ivaniSvils, maSin mTavrobis

wevrebis gverdiT im redaq-

torebis saxelebsa da gva-

rebsac amoikiTxaven, romle-

bic mosalodneli mediasabo-

taJis dakveTebs iReben naci-

onaluri moZraobidan.

isic zustad vici,rom `nac.moZraobis~mxridan, ukve arse-bobs garkveuli geg-ma, rodis unda gan-xorcieldes zogi-erTi gazeTis daxur-va. rodis unda `gaap-rotestos~ zewolaama Tu im televiziamda romelma Jurna-listebma unda gaake-Ton komentari mTe-li msoflios gasa-gonad, teleeTeriiqneba es Tu sapro-testo manifestacia,romelsac `daCagru-li~ mediasaSualebe-bi moawyoben.

Zvirfaso mkiTxvelo, am

bolo dReebSi `nacmoZrao-

bis~ mesveurebi ukve alapa-

rakdnen imaze, rom xelisuf-

lebaSi dasabruneblad yvela

Rones ixmaren da Tu imasac

gaviTvaliswinebT, rom maT

zogierTebze naklebi, (Tu me-

ti ara) finansebi ar gaaCni-

aT, dResaviT naTeli xdeba,

rom _ finansebs, upirvele-

sad, im mediasaSualebebisken

mimarTaven, romlebic maTi

kontrolidan arasodes gasu-

lan, anu maTken, romlebic,

marTalia, òpoziciur niSas~

arian amofarebulni, magram

sinamdvileSi `nacmoZraobis~

mediaqvemexebi arian da rom-

lebic jerjerobiT mizanSi

artyamen.

iqneb vinmem amixsnas, ras

unda niSnavdes, Tundac gasu-

li kviris xuTSabaTis àli-

`nacmoZraoba~ biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg mediasabotaJs amzadebs _ erTi gazeTis angariSze ukve daido 2 milioni!

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

www.saertogazeti.orgSemogvierTdiT FACEBOOK-zzee

6 gv.


aSi~ gamoqveynebuli gancxa-

deba, romelic iuwyeba, rom

gazeTi àlia~ ar daixure-

ba?! (rogor, gana vinmem

sadme axsena, rom ixureba?)

gazeTebi: àlia~ da `qroni-

ka~, gana ra iseT kriziss

ganicdis, rom SeiZleba da-

ixuros?

sxvaTa Soris, isic Za-

lian mainteresebs, ra gaxda

mizezi imisa, rom àliadan~

Jurnalistebis gadineba

xdeba da Tavad àlia~ hol-

dingi ki axlebis mosaZieb-

lad gancxadebebs aRar aq-

veynebs?! sul fexebze mki-

dia, ras ityvian `mavanni~,

magram piradad me, rogorc

àlia~, ise gazeTi `qroni-

ka~ Zalian meZvirfaseba,

radgan rogorc `gazetCik-

ma~, swored aq avidgi fexi

da Zalian mewyineba, Tu es

gazeTebi daixureba visime

zewoliT. arada, zewola

rom saxezea, aSkaraa, rad-

gan Tavad holdingma ukve

daiwyo mkiTxvelis Tvalis

gaxedna, rom SesaZloa, es

asec moxdes.

arc is aris axali, rom

qarTuli beWduri mediis

garkveuli nawili pirdapi-

raa mibmuli ama Tu im po-

litikur partias da rigi

politikosebis Sexedule-

bisamebr imarTeba. metic,

cnobilia, rom gazeTi `24

saaTi~, gazeTi `praim Tai-

mi~, `rezonansi~, Jurnalebi

`tabula~, `liberali~ da

a.S. dotaciuri gamocemebia

da maT ukan mdgomi Zalebi

ki warsulSi Tu amJamad

`nac.moZraobis~ satelitebi

iyvnen da arian. anu am yve-

lafriT imis Tqma minda,

rom mediasabotaJic sul

male iqneba saxeze da Tqven

Semdeg naxeT cirki _ yvela

erTad rom daiwyebs yvi-

rils: zewolis qveS varT,

iZulebuli varT davixu-

roT da, civiluro dasav-

leTo, droze mogvaqcieT

yuradRebao.

ra moxdeba amis Semdeg?

albaT, dasavleTi isev dag-

vmoZRvravs _ koabitacia

hqeniTo, magram am koabita-

ciis aqtSi vin unda iyos

zemodan da vin qvemodan,

gveubnebian?

sul ar madardebs, rome-

li gamomcemeli dainaxavs

Tavis Tavs am werilSi, mag-

ram, vfiqrob, bevri mkiTxve-

li mixvdeba, romel media-

saSualebebs vgulisxmob da

iqneb imazec Rirdes dafiq-

reba, aseTi midgoma saqmi-

sadmi sadamde miiyvans Cvens

qveyanas?

kuluaruli info-

rmaciiT nacmoZraobam ukve

daiwyo didi `mayuTis~ Ca-

morigeba rig gazeTebsa Tu

televiziebSi, xolo maT

mflobelebs xan ucxoeTSi

xvdebian da xanac Cvens

Tvalwin.

imasac amboben, rom

nacmoZraobam erTi gazeTis

angariSze ukve dado 2 mil-

ioni.

vin iqneba Semdegi da vin

gauZlebs cdunebas, male

gamoCndeba, magram iqamde

movuwodeb yvela im moqmed

Jurnalists, romlebic fu-

lze ar iyidebian da rom-

lebic, jerjerobiT, medg-

rad uweven winaaRmdegobas

sakuTar `Sefebs~ _ xma

aRimaRlon da sazogadoeba

droulad Caayenon saqmis

kursSi _ ra xdeba realu-

rad maT televiziebsa Tu

Jurnal-gazeTebSi, radgan,

rogorc TavSi vTqvi, medi-

asabotaJis msxverpli Tu

aRmoCnda sazogadoeba, ma-

Sin gviani iqneba TiTze kbe-

nani da xmamaRali gancxade-

bebi...

irine gogosaSvili

5 gv.

`nacmoZraoba~ biZina ivaniSvilis winaaRmdeg

mediasabotaJs amzadebs _ erTi gazeTis angariSze

ukve daido 2 milioni!

dRes, roca qveyanas hyavs TviTmarqvia

prezidenti, romlis saprezidento ufleba-

mosilebis vada saqarTvelos konstituciis

ZaliT dasrulda 2013 wlis 20 ianvars.

dRes, roca dasavleTis qveynebis garkve-

uli politikuri wreebi, samwuxarod ev-

ropuli struqturtebi saqarTvelos mo-

saxleobas gvaiZuleben davarRvioT saqarT-

velos konstitucia mixeil saakaSvilis sa-

sargeblod.

dRes, roca erT politikur seqtad Sek-

ruli yofili xelisufleba, nac.moZraoba,

mixeil saakaSvili daupirispirda saqarTve-

los mosaxleobis umravlesobis nebas.

dRes, roca mixeil saakaSvilis, „nac-

moZraobis“ yoveli warmomadgenlis gamosv-

la qveyanaSi Tu qveynis gareT es aris

mtroba qarTveli xalxisa da saqarTvelos

mimarT, roca

‘ ’ nacionalebi ’ ’

imdenad gaTavxed-

den, rom Riad da

sajarod Seu-

racxyofas ayene-

ben saqarTvelos

sulier mamas, ,

saqarTvelos ka-

Tolikos patri-

arqs, uwmidessa

da unetaress

ilia meores, am

dros erTmaneT-

Tan dapirispire-

ba qveynis inte-

resebis Ralatis

da qveynis maoxrebeli `nacmoZraobisaTvis’’

politikuri sicocxlis gaxangrZlivebis

tolfasia.Cveni azriT, saxelimwifoebrivad

azrovnebs is politikuri Zala, romelic

mimdinare etapis upirveles amocanad

Tvlis qveynis ganTavisuflebas „naciona-

luri“ okupaciisagan.

yoveli Rirsebis mqone partiisaTvis,

yoveli politikosisaTvis, romelic fiq-

robs qveyanaze da ara saxelisuflo skam-

ze, yoveli arasamTavrobo organizaciisaT-

vis, romlisTvisac mTavaria qveyana da ara

grantebis mopoveba - upirvelesi unda iyos

2012 wlis pirveli oqtombris monapovris

dacva, qveynis da xalxis ganTavisufleba

TviTmarqvia prezidentisagan, Zalauflebis

moyvaruli politikuri partia `nacmo-

Zraobisagan’’, im politikuri gaerTianebisa

da politikosebisagan romlebmac genocidi

mouwyes qarTvel xalxs, qveyanaSi daamkvid-

res elituri politikuri korufcia.

Cven mTeli qveynis, Cveni qveynis megob-

rebis, msoflio sazogaddoebriobis gasago-

nadd vacxaddebT - „„nacionaluri moZraoba“,

mixeil saakaSSvili, misi ucxoeli mxarddam-

Werebi qveyanaSSi qmnian umZimes ddaZabulobas,

romelsac SSeddegadd SSeiZleba mohyves ddiddi

saxalxo ddapirispireba dda sisxli.

Cven koalicia „„erTsulovnebis“ ddamfuZ-

neblebi, saakaSSvilis sapreziddento ufleba-

mosilebis sakonstitucio vaddis ddasrule-

bis memoranddumze xelmomwweri erT mili-

onze meti amomrCeveli vixsniT pasuxismgeb-

lobas mixeil saakaSSvilis qmeddebebze dda

mis qmeddebaTa gamo movlenebis SSemddgom gan-

viTarebaze pasuxismgeblobas vakisrebT sa-

qarTvelos parlaments, koalicia „„qarTul

ocnebas“, im politikur partiebs dda poli-

tikosebs, romlebic mxars uWeren saakaSSvi-

lis preziddentobas 2013 wwlis oqtombram-

dde.

Cven vddgevarT im politikur ZalebTan,

politikur gaerTianebebTan, arasamTavrobo

organizaciebTan, im xalxTan erTadd, rom-

lebic Tvlian, rom mixeil saakaSSvilis sap-

reziddento vadda ddasrulebulia dda misi ga-

mosvla saqarTvelos parlamentSSi, es aris

qarTveli xalxis dda saqarTvelos mosaxle-

obis SSeuracxyofa dda marionetuli morCi-

leba saakaSSvilis mxarddamWeri ucxoeTis

politikuri wwreebisaddmi,

Cven vTvliT,

rom saqarTvelos

momavali ddakavSSi-

rebulia im poli-

tikur ZalebTan,

im politikoseb-

Tan dda im xeli-

s u fl e b a s T a n ,

romlebic qveynis

gareddan ar imar-

Tebian dda emsaxu-

rebian saqarTve-

los, mis intere-

sebs, qarTvel

xalxs dda saqarT-

velos mosaxleo-

bas.

swworedd am ganwwyobiT vddgebiT saqarTve-

los parlamentTan im ddRes, roddesac saqar-

Tvelos parlamentSSi wwliuri moxsenebisaT-

vis iwwveven TviTmarqvia preziddent mixeil

saakaSSvils.

ddavddgeT erTadd ddemokratiisaTvis, saqar-

Tvelos konstituciisaTvis, qarTveli

xalxis dda saqarTvelos Rirsebis ddacvisaT-

vis.

koalicia ,,erTsulovnebis“ saxeliT:

rezo CxeiZe, mixeil andRulaZe,Teimuraz SaSiaSvili, zaza xatiaS-vili, paata cnobilaZe, rezo ZoZu-aSvili, manuCar maCaiZe, omar mxei-Ze, roman rurua, guram saRara-Ze,elguja burduli, ferdinandlorTqifaniZe, ramaz yuraSvi-li,Tamaz WeiSvili, oTar varsimaS-vili, iuri vazagaSvili, inesa iama-niZe, zurab xasia, robert babliZe,raul svaniZe, avTandil baramaSvi-li, naTia avsajaniSvili, giorgiJorJoliani, irma deloni, anzorbabuxadia, leqso kobaiZe, avTan-dil ioseliani, koba arabuli, ma-rina kaJaSvili, laSa kalandaZe,gela saluaSvili, jemal jiqia, ,nana SaraSiZe, SoTa CxeiZe, vasilkadeneci, giorgi gagloevi.

miRebulia koalicia èrTsulovnebis~

konferenciaze didube-pplazas sakonferen-

cio darbazSi

29.01.2013

koalicia „erTsulovnebis“

mimarTvapolitikuri partiebis, politikuri

gaerTianebebis, arasamTavrobo

organizaciebisadmi


_ Cven am xelisuflebas

4 weliwadi velodebodiT

da sul male daviwyebT

moqmedebebs mis dasasusteb-

lado, _ ganacxada vano me-

rabiSvilma da iqve CamoTva-

la im RonisZiebaTa sia, ri-

Tac `nacionalebi” `qarTu-

li ocnebis” damarcxebas da

SemdgomSi kvlav xelisuf-

lebaSi dabrunebas apireben.

vfiqrobT, saa-kaSvilis, merabiS-vilis da `naciona-lebis~ sxva lide-rebis gancxadebe-biT aucilebladunda dainteresd-nen samarTaldamca-vi struqturebi,radgan am gancxade-bebSi zogjer Se-farviT, zogjer kiRiad ikveTeba samo-qalaqo dapirispi-rebisa da destabi-lizaciisken mowo-deba.

sxva ambavia, SeZleben

Tu ara isini am ganzraxvis

sisruleSi moyvanas, magram

es iseTi sakiTxia, sadac eq-

sperimentisa da movlenaTa

ganviTarebisTvis Soridan

TvalTvalis ufleba ar

gvaqvs, radgan saqme saxel-

mwifos usafrTxoebas exeba.

Sin Tu gareT `naciona-

lebi~ qveynis winaaRmdeg

aSkarad mtrul da mavneb-

lur saqmianobas rom ewevi-

an, eWvs ar iwvevs, magram

ratom aravin ar sTxovs

maT pasuxs am qmedebebis ga-

mo?

imis damtkiceba, rom

`nacionalebis~ qmedebebi

mimarTulia ara mxolod

koalicia `qarTuli ocne-

bis~, saqarTvelos mTavro-

bis da biZina ivaniSvilis

winaaRmdeg, aramed saqarT-

velos mTeli mosaxleobis,

mTeli qveynis winaaRmdeg,

did sirTules ar warmoad-

gens.

ismis kiTxva, ratom ar

keTdeba am mimarTulebiT

araferi?

davelodoT, rodis

aafeTqeben situacias `naci-

onalebi~ da mxolod amis

Semdeg miviRoT saTanado

zomebi?

sazogadoeba ukmayofi-

lebas gamoTqvams, rom Wia-

nurdeba im rezonansuli

saqmeebis gamoZieba, rom-

lebSic, gavrcelebuli in-

formaciebis mixedviT, aS-

karaa saakaSvilis da misi

xelisuflebis maRalCino-

sanTa braleuloba.

ase, magaliTad, dRemde

ar damTavrebula zurab

Jvanias, sandro girgvlia-

nis, vazagaSvilis, robaqi-

Zis, gamcemliZis, afrasiZee-

bis saqmeebis gamoZieba.

aseve ar damTavrebula

(daiwyo ki?) 2008 wlis ag-

vistos omis dros saqarT-

velos xelisuflebis ma-

RalCinosanTa saeWvo qmede-

bebis Seswavla da gamoZie-

ba.

arada, am qmedebebSi

mravlad aris saxelmwifos

Ralatis, saxelmwifos wi-

naaRmdeg mizanmimarTuli

qmedebebis niSnebi.

aris kidev uamravi sxva

danaSaulebani, romlebSic,

savaraudod, `nacionalebi~

arian gareulni, magram maT

arc am danaSaulebaTa da

arc zemoTnaxseneb sxva da-

naSaulobaTa gamo pasuxs

aravin sTxovs.

swored amitom xom ar

mogvitrialdnen aqeT uti-

fari `nacionalebi~ da da-

usjelobis sindromiT ga-

Tamamebulni kidev axal-

axal ubedurebebs gvpirde-

bian.

cxadia, baCo axa-laia cixeSi undaijdes, magram ra-tom ar unda ijdnenmis gverdiT mera-biSvili, baramiZe,adeiSvili, boboxi-Ze, wiklauri, xerxe-uliZe, gorozia,udesiani, kezeraSvi-li, daTa axalaia,SaSkini, kalmaxeli-Ze, sayvareliZe, To-furiZe, sxvani dasxvani?

bevri maTgani mimalvaSia

da interpoli eZebs, Tumca

jerjerobiT eqstradaciis

arc erTi faqti ar dafiqsi-

rebula.

konspiraciis da mimalvis

iseT ra unikalur xerxebs

floben es damnaSave elemen-

tebi, rom saxelganTqmul

interpolsac ki ver miugnia

maTi asaval-dasavalisTvis?

gaqceulebs da Zebnilebs

Tavi davaneboT, imaT, vinc

saZebari ar gvyavs da sapar-

lamento tribunebidan da

televiziebis ekranebidan

yoveldRe enas rom gvitli-

kineben, ratom ar vtacebT

enaze xels da ratom ar mi-

vabrZanebT iq, sadac maTi

adgilia.

s a erTaSoriso

Tanamegobroba ar

gvanebebs amis gake-

Tebas?

daulageT win am

pativcemul saerTa-

Soriso Tanamegob-

robas sisxlis sa-

marTlis tomebi sa-

akaSvilis da misi

bandis sagmiro saq-

meebis Sesaxeb, aqci-

eT es tomebi saer-

TaSoriso ganxil-

vis da msjelobis

sagnad, daarqviT

yvelafers Tavisi

saxeli, manam, sanam am damna-

Saveebs Zveli danaSaulebis

Camosawerad axali danaSau-

lobani ar CaudeniaT.

rogor davijeroT, rom

msoflios saerTaSoriso

demokratiuli Tanamegobro-

bis saxlic CaliT aris ga-

daxuruli, sadac damnaSave-

ebs udanaSaulobis yalb

iarliyebs akraven da piri-

qiT – udanaSauloebs damna-

Saveebad acxadeben.

dasaWers Tu droulad

ar daiWer, SeiZleba mogit-

rialdes da aqeT dagiWi-

ros...

`saerTo gazeTi~

dasaWers Tu droulad ar daiWer, SeiZleba

mogitrialdes da aqeT dagiWiros

saerTaSoriso Tanamegobrobissaxlic CaliT aris gadaxuruli?

luka kurtaniZe xSirad yofila `saerTo gazeTis~

stumari da piradad Cemi respondenti. unda vaRiaro, mi-

si gulwrfeli, emociuri monaTxrobiT bevrjer SevZ-

rulvar. igi afxazeTidanaa da afxazeTis ommac mis

Tvalwin Caiara, mamis saflavis povna ki dRemde misi sa-

nukvari ocnebaa. am wlebis manZilze man bevri ubedure-

ba gamoiara.

sisxlian 26 maiss cocxali RvTis wyalobiT gadar-

Ca. Tavisuflebis moedanze dasisxlianebuli, damtvreu-

li aTries, daTrgunes, Tavisi TvaliT ixila, rogor

morwyes `samarTaldamcavebma~ asobiT adamianis sisxliT

diRmis sammarTvelo, zedamxedvelobis samsaxurma Sari

mosdo, Seni Robe dasaSveb normas 20 sm-iiT aWarbebso

da sakuTari naSro-

mi misi samagaliTod

dasjis mizniT da-

ungria. Cven ki ada-

mians, romelmac

CvenTvis ioma, imis

magivrad, rom mo-

vufrTxildeT, niS-

nis mogebiT `fsi-

qos~ vTxovT.

axla rom gahyvi-

rian, luka kurta-

niZem msoflio Cem-

pioni galaxao, sad

iyvnen maSin, roca

luka kurtaniZe 26

maisis Rames cocx-

al-mmkvdari gaiyva-

nes Tavisuflebis

moednidan. luka kurtaniZec xom iyo maSin msoflio Cem-

pioni?! ratom ar aRSfoTdnen maSin moWidaveebi, ratom

ar daudgnen mxarSi?! maSin ratom ar daureka raindi ab-

ramiSvils atirebulma yazaraSvilma, roca kurtaniZes

diRmis sammarTveloSi samSoblos siyvarulis gamo

sisxls anTxevinebdnen?! ratom maSin ar dainteresdnen

veteranebi gamoZiebiT _ Tu vin da ratom awama kurta-

niZe? CemTan erT-eerT interviuSi kurtaniZem Tqva, rom,

miuxedavad imisa, ra ubedurebebic mas gaukeTes, mzadaa,

Tu maTgan gulwrfel sinanuls igrZnobs, yvelas Seun-

dos. manve momiTxro moWidaveebis wesis Sesaxeb: `rode-

sac mowinaaRmdeges wavaqcevT, Semdeg mas xels vuwv-

diT da fexze vayenebT, maqsimalurad vumsubuqebT mar-

cxis tkivilso.~ misi gulwrfeloba yovelTvis mxiblav-

da da am sityvebis mere Znelia, davijeroT, rom igi

usamarTlod daCagravs vinmes.

Tu ara Widaobis ojaxis didi siyvaruli, xidCatexi-

lobis aRdgenis survili, sxva veraferi aiZulebda mas,

uangarod emsaxura am saqmisTvis da Tavi ara federaci-

is prezidentad, aramed msaxurad mieCnia. Tu erTi kvi-

ra mxolod imaze unda visaubroT, scema Tu ara luka

kurtaniZem yazaraSvili, maSin, mgoni, Rirs, erTi wuTiT

mainc davfiqrdeT imaze, rac am adamianma gadaitana. miT

umetes, rom yazaraSvilis cemis faqti ar dadasture-

bula, is faqti ki, rogor gauswordnen `samarTaldam-

cavebi~ luka kurtaniZes, mTelma saqarTvelom ixila.

bolo dros saubroben imazec, rom kurtaniZes mwvrTne-

lebi udroo dros _ metad mniSvnelovani Cempionatis

win ar unda moexsnao. ki, magram, yazaraSvili rom

iTxovs, aseT udroo dros Widaobis federaciis prezi-

dentis gaTavisuflebas, es logikuria?!

luka kurtaniZe omidan mobrunebuli kacia, amitom

mas provokaciebi ki ar unda movuwyoT, aramed mxarSi

unda davudgeT da Tavdadebisa da TavganwirvisTvis mad-

loba vuTxraT. rogorc vTqviT, luka kurtaniZe omidan

mobrunebuli kacia, Tumca, omi misTvis jerac ar dam-

Tavrebula. ise, rogorc ar damTavrebula igi TiToeu-

li qarTvelisTvis, visac qveynis bedi stkiva da awu-

xebs.

Tamar SveliZe

omidan mobrunebulikaci, romlisTvisac omijer ar damTavrebula


_ zaza, sanam saubars da-

viwyebdiT, Tqven TqviT, rom

moqalaqe adamiania, romelsac

pasuxismgebloba aqvs. rogori

pasuxismgebloba aqvs qarTvel

sazogadoebas?

_ gaaCnia, am sakiTxs, ro-

gor SevxedavT. am kuTxiT, 74-

75 wlebis interpretacias di-

di mniSvneloba aqvs – es magis-

traluri xazidan gadaxveva

iyo? saerTod, arsebobs ki es

magistraluri xazi? axla vi-

Tareba Semdegia –erTi mxriv

arsebobs unificirebuli mid-

goma, rom yvelgan demokratia

unda iyos, Tumca meore mxriv

_ civilizaciebi erTmaneTisgan

gansxvavdebian. dRevandeli ada-

mianisTvis mniSvnelovania yve-

laferi erTnairi iyos, radga-

nac gansxvavebuloba niSnavs,

rom viRac zeda safexurzea,

viRac _ qvedaze. principSi,

yvela erTnairi unda iyos. meo-

re mxriv, gansxvavebulad unda

vilaparakoT. dRevandeli Tana-

medrove azrovneba urTierTsa-

pirispiro rameze dgas. mok-

led, es yvelaferi Zalian wi-

naaRmdegobrivia, raRacnairad

ar lagdeba. marTalia, religi-

uri da sakraluri politikaSi

ar monawileobs, magram, meore

mxriv, roca es Tanabrdeba, Za-

lian bevri problema warmoiqm-

neba. qarTuli sazogadoebac,

swored am problemebis winaSe

dgas.

_ konkretulad, ra igu-

lisxmeba problemebSi da ra

aris gamosavali; rogor unda

iqceodes realurad qarTuli

sazogadoeba, ra moTxovnebi un-

da hqondes; mas, sakuTari pozi-

cia, Rirseba xom unda gaaCn-

des?

_ aviRoT dasavluri sazo-

gadoeba, romelic ufro erTg-

varovania, vidre qarTuli.

getyviT, ras vgulisxmob. maga-

liTad, centralur evropul

sazogadoebaSi iseTi ideolo-

giuri gansxvavebebi, rogoric

CvenTanaa, ar aris. aq, erTi

mxriv, nacionaluri, meore

mxriv, liberaluri midgomebi

gvaqvs. CvenTvis es dapirispire-

baa. liberalebi nacionalur

midgomebs nacisturad naTla-

ven, rac, albaT imis bralia,

rom saqarTveloSi, me-2 msof-

lio omis Sedegebi dRemde bo-

lomde ar misula. liberaluri

poziciidan, qarTveli sazoga-

doeba aratolerantuli, qseno-

fobiuri, homofobi-

uria. es, `win wa-

sul” da `CamorCe-

nil nawilebs” So-

ris dapirispirebaa.

aqedan gamomdinare,

samoqalaqo sazoga-

doeba maSin gaqvs,

roca igi iseve erT-

gvarovania, rogorc

Tavisufali bazari,

sadac Zalian bevri

produqtia, magram

erTnairi. es, ra Tqma

unda, SinaganTan winaaRmdego-

baa, magram mogvwons Tu ara,

asea. saqme mowonebaSic araa.

sinamdvileSi, yvela sazogado-

ebas, kulturas uxilavi raRa-

cebi aqvs, rasac TviTon ver

xedavs. fotografiaSi amas da-

naTebul adgilebs uwodeben.

magaliTad, Tanamedrove sazoga-

doeba aris sazogadoeba, sadac

akrZaluli araferia, magram

zogis azriT, esaa sazogadoeba,

sadac akrZalvaa akrZaluli.

esec xom akrZalvaa?! arsebobs

garkveuli dogmebi, mtkivneuli

adgilebi. magaliTad, Tu 200

wlis win wminda adgilis Seu-

racxyofisaTvis, dagwvavdnen,

dRes aseTi adgilebis arsebo-

bas uarvyofT da vambobT, rom

yvelaferi Tanasworia. magram,

realurad aseTi adgilebi ar-

sebobs da rogorc ki amaze sa-

ubars viwyebT, cxadi xdeba,

rom viRacas nacisturi cnobi-

ereba aqvs. nacizmi aRiarebaa

imisa, rom gansxvavebebi arse-

bobs. anu, erTi mxriv vambobT,

rom gansxvavebebi arsebobs, mag-

ram meore mxriv, yvela gansxva-

vebuli Tanabaria.

rac Seexeba, xalxis pasu-

xismgeblobas da aqtiurobas, es

Zalian seriozuli Temaa. aqti-

uri moqalaqe, praqtikulad,

adamiania, romelic biznesiTaa

dakavebuli. anu aqtiuria adami-

ani, romelic kerZo sferoSia.

saintereso momentia – rac uf-

ro Sors mivdivarT, kerZo sfe-

ro miT ufro farTo xdeba,

rac adre ase ar iyo. sabWoTa

warsulSi, piriqiT, sajaro

sfero farTo iyo, kerZo ki –

ara. sazogadoebis didi nawili

“dakavebuli” iyo ara biznesiT,

aramed sul sxva ramiT – kul-

turiT, wignebis kiTxviT da a.S.

amitom, moqalaqe aris adamiani,

romelic kerZo interesebidan

gamodis da sajaro sivrceSi

swored am kerZo interesiT Se-

dis. vinc iZaxis, yvelafris de-

da vatireo, - is moqalaqe araa.

_ Cveni sazogadoeba yvela-

ferze – erTi amis deda vati-

reo – rom gaiZaxis, rasTan

gvaqvs am SemTxvevaSi saqme?

_ erTi mxriv, SeiZleba

iTqvas, rom es aris sabWoTa

warsulis inercia da meorec –

Cveni sazogadoebis ganviTare-

bis Sedegi arc demokratiaa da

arc Tavisufali bazari. anu,

`es garedan Semosulia~. ro-

gorc specialistebi amboben,

sadac `es garedan Semodis~,

yvelgan problemaa. Zalian

rTulia raRacis bolomde ara

marto Tqma, aramed gaazrebac

ki. imitom, rom am gaazrebam

SeiZleba migviyvanos iqamde,

rac ideoligiurad, politiku-

rad arakoreqtuli aRmoCndeba.

amitom, principSi yvela sazo-

gadoebas Tavisi tabuebi aqvs.

raRacebze bolomde laparaki

Zalian rTulia da amave dros

martivia, gadavarde imaSi, ra-

sac pirobiTad azrovneba SeiZ-

leba vuwodoT, saidanac disk-

riminacia gamomdinareobs.

_ ra tabu aqvs qarTul sa-

moqalaqo sazogadoebas da ga-

momdinareobs Tu ara Cveni az-

rovneba e.w. diskriminaciidan?

_ azris gamoxatva rTu-

lia, radgan rodesac raRacas

vayalibebT, vakonstruirebT,

amis unificireba Zalian mniSv-

nelovania. Cven gardamavali sa-

zogadoeba varT – erTi samya-

rodan meoreSi gadavdivarT,

dekoraciebis Secvlis moment-

Si varT.

_ erTi samyarodan meoreSi

gadasvlisas, sadaa demokrati-

is, azris gamoxatvis adgili?

_ modiT vTqvaT, ra aris

demokratia? – azris gamoxat-

va, magram igi nacisturi ar un-

da iyos. nacizmi RmerTsa da

adamians Soris fundamentur

gansxvavebas niSnavs. fundamen-

turi gansxvavebaa mcodnesa da

ucodinars Sorisac. demokra-

tiuli iseTi sazogadoebaa, sa-

dac wminda da ara fundamentu-

ri gansxvavebebi arsebobs.

_ saqarTveloSi cota ada-

miani meguleba, visac saakaSvi-

lis wasvla ar unda, anu es xe-

lisuflebisgan gansxvavebuli

azria. rogor fiqrobT, sxva

qveynebisgan gansxvavebiT, Cven-

Tan, gansxvavebuli azri, mainc-

damainc xelisuflebasTan brZ-

olas ratom niSnavs?

_ geTanxmebiT. swored amas

vambob, Cvens sazogadoebaSi

jer kidev arsebobs fundamen-

turi gansxvavebebi. amitomac,

jer kidev, bolomde dasavlu-

ri orientaciis ar varT. dasav-

leTSi Cveni srulyofili mi-

Reba maSin moxdeba, roca qar-

Tul sazogadoebaSi fundamen-

turi gansxvavebebi aRar iarse-

bebs. magaliTad, saakaSvili ab-

soluturi borotebaa, ivaniS-

vili – araCveulebrivi adamia-

ni, an piriqiT, viRacisTvis –

damangreveli. roca es gansxva-

vebebi aRar iarsebebs, maSin

viqnebiT dasavleTisTvis misa-

Rebi. magram ramdenad iqneba

kerZo adamianisTvis es erTia-

noba WeSmaritad Tavisuflebis

momtani, es didi kiTxvis niSa-

nia. Cemi piradi xedva aseTia,

gagecinebaT, magram saqarTvelo

dRes gardamaval mdgomareoba-

Sia. igi ufro da ufro dasav-

luri tipis sazogadoeba xdeba.

_ sanam es moxdeba, manamde

ra gviSlis xels Cvenc ise mo-

viqceT, rogorc sxva qveynebSi,

igive dasavleTSi – gamovxa-

toT protesti da a.S. Tundac

aviRoT koabitacia. vTqvaT, xe-

lisufleba opoziciasTan iZu-

lebiT koabitaciaSia. Cven, sa-

zogadoebas vin gvaiZulebs

amas, xmas ratom ar viRebT?

Cven xom ar varT valdebuli

saakaSvilis reJimTan Tanaviar-

seboT?

_ ki, geTanxmebiT, magram,

roca NTanacxovrebazea sauba-

ri, es metaforaa, SegviZlia

ise vicxovroT, es procesi sa-

erTod ar Segvexos. ki, SeiZ-

leba, viRac iZulebiT Semogvi-

vardes, magram amitom gveubne-

bian, rom aqtiurni unda viyo.

Tanamedrove cxovrebaSi yvela-

ze cudi pasiurobaa. modiT,

vTqvaT, ras niSnavs koabita-

cia? _ es niSnavs, rom mixeil

saakaSvili Cveulebrivi adamia-

nia. magram mosaxleobis didi

nawili, savsebiT gasagebi mize-

zebis gamo, mas Cveulebriv

adamianad ar aRiqvams, aramed

raRac saSinelebad, monstrad.

Cven gvinda, rom igi hitlerad

vaqcioT, magram, es dasavleTs

ar unda. vin aris miSa iuridi-

uli TvalsazrisiT? _ ar vi-

ci. es rom vicode, maSin “sai-

as”-s wevri unda viyo. es yve-

laferi damokidebulia imaze,

ramdenad viqnebiT koabitire-

bulni. aqedan gamomdinare,

problema SemdegSia – rogor

ganvmartoT saakaSvili da es

reJimi. aq sxvadasxva ena arse-

bobs, rac Sesabamisad unda

dakvalificirdes, risTvisac

konsensusia saWiro. is, rom

hitleri iyo iseTi, rogoric

iyo, es sabWoTa reJimsa da ame-

rikul demokratias Soris Se-

Tanxmebis Sedegad moxda. miu-

xedavad Zalian didi gansxva-

vebulobisa, principul sa-

kiTxze, SeTanxmeba moxda. ro-

ca saakaSvilze vsaubrobT, un-

da iTqvas, rom misi niurnber-

gis procesi SeuZlebelia. imi-

tom, rom saakaSvilis reJimi

deklaraciis doneze arasdros

laparakobda. sxvaTa Soris,

komunizmis gasamarTlebac ami-

tom ar moxda. nacizmis gasa-

marTleba Zalian martivi iyo.

magram rodesac erTs lapara-

kob da meores akeTeb, dasja,

sakmaod rTulia. amitom, pir-

dapiri gagebiT, verc komuniz-

mis da verc saakaSvilis reJi-

mis niurnbergis procesi ver

moxdeba. es Zalian rTulia.

modiT, vTqvaT, ra gansxvavebaa

e.w. liberalebsa da saakaSvi-

lis momxreebs Soris? – miSas

momxreebi Zaladobas uSveben,

liberalebi –ara. anu konsen-

susi unda Sedges Zalis ar ga-

moyenebaze. CvenSi es konsensu-

si axla dgeba. aqedan gamomdi-

nare, vimeoreb, enobriv sivrce-

Si gadavdivarT – anu, risi

Tqma SeiZleba da risi –ara.

arsebobs mosazreba, rom bevri

ram enidan gamomdinareobs –

roca Cven enaSi Zaladobas

vuSvebT, mere fizikuri Zala-

dobac swored aqedan gamomdi-

nareobs. roca adamians agresi-

ulad mimarTav, mere kidec

moklav. amitom, axla gadavdi-

varTY meore etapze – enis gaw-

mendis – vis, rogor unda ela-

parako. am azriT, procesebi,

rac dasavleTSi daiwyo, nel-

nela Cvenamde modis.

_ niurnbergis procesi ver

moxdebao _ TqviT, es xalxSi

usamarTlobis gancdis gaRrma-

vebas xom ar gamoiwvevs? garda

amisa, unda moxdes Tu ara re-

Jimis politikuri Sefaseba da

mere dadges sisxlis samarT-

lis pasuxismgeblobis sakiTxi,

Cven xom SevTanxmdiT, rom kri-

minaluri xelisufleba, faSis-

turi reJimi gvyavda?


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_ vTqvaT, SevafaseT, mere

ra?! Cven ukve SevafaseT

1991-92 wlebi, magram mere

ra?! ismeba kiTxva – sworad

SevafaseT?! an im kiTxvebs pa-

suxi gaeca? – me Tu

mkiTxavT – ara da arc ara-

sodes gaecema. saqme imaSia,

rom Cven, politikurad ra-

Racebze laparaki ar

gvawyobs da arc vilapara-

kebT.

_ vis Cven – xalxs?

_ diax, sazogadoebas

dRes raRacebze laparaki ar

awyobs. yvela sazogadoeba

aseTia. saqme iciT raSia? –

Cven 1991-92 wlebi, rogorc

gadatrialeba, ise SevafaseT.

maSin fundamentur gansxvave-

bebze vsaubrobdiT. Tanamed-

rove samyaro ki gveubneba,

rom fundamenturi gansxvave-

bebi ar arsebobs.

_ anu gamodis, rom 9-

wliani reJimis Sefasebas az-

ri ar aqvs?

_ gaaCnia. yovelTvis, ga-

marjvebuli afasebs. niurn-

bergis procesze gamarjvebu-

lebma damarcxebulebi gaasa-

marTles. bevri ambobda, - ase

ar SeiZleba, es mesame mxarem

unda gaakeToso. es kidev

sxva Temaa, magram asea Tu

ise, istorias gamarjvebuli

wers da saxelsac is arqmevs.

_ Tu gamarjvebuli asa-

marTlebs, maSin Cven ratom

ver vasamarTlebT, xom gavi-

marjveT?

_ modiT, SevxedoT, ra

xdeboda sazogadoebaSi. xal-

xi saakaSvils sxvadasxvanai-

rad uyurebda. sazogadoebis

mxridan minimum samnairi aRq-

ma iyo: nacionalistur-reli-

giuri TvalsazrisiT, saakaS-

vili apokalipturi

mxeci, liberaluri

poziciidan – moZa-

lade da saSualo

inteligenturi po-

ziciidan – neobol-

Sevikia. samive aRqmas

saerTo momentebi

aqvs. ai, aseTi situ-

acia iyo, anu xeli-

suflebas unifici-

rebuli xedva hqon-

da. SeiZleba Tu ara

koabitacia? – es xe-

lisuflebasa da na-

cionalur-religi-

urs Soris Zalian

rTuli iqneba. ufro

martivi iqneba libe-

ralursa da xeli-

suflebas Soris imi-

tom, rom maT deklaraciis

doneze erTnairi Rirebule-

bebi aqvT. gansxvaveba mxo-

lod isaa, rom erTi uSvebs

Zaladobas, meore – ara. mag-

ram sazogadoebaSi konsensu-

si imaze, rom Zaladoba ar

unda iyos, ukve dgeba. sta-

lini gulagis arqipelagis

arsebobas malavda. saakaSvi-

lic gana ambobda, rom rame

xdeba?! aqedan gamomdinare,

reJimi, ubralod, gaSiSvlda.

gana manamde ar icodnen, rac

xdeboda?! icodnen da ambob-

dnen, rom es kargia, ase un-

da moiqceo. isic iTqva – ne-

ta xalxs erTi didi ukanali

hqondes da mTlianad gavur-

WobdiT cocxso.

_ magram amJamad ra xde-

ba, xom ar Cndeba es naprali

Tavidan?

_ naprals erTaderTi

ram avsebs _ enis gawmenda,

romlis gamomuSaveba axla

xdeba – ra vTqvaT, ra ar

vTqvaT. axla Cven garkveuli

tipis garantiebs vimuSavebT

– rogor aRar ganmeordes wa-

meba. es fundamenturia. is,

rom pozitiur doneze reli-

giur-nacionalursa da libe-

ralurs Soris konsensusi

arasdros moxdeba– es CemT-

vis absoluturad gasagebia.

_ Tu xelisuflebasa da

xalxs Soris dialogi arse-

bobs, maSin 1 milioni adamia-

nis survils – gadadges saa-

kaSvili, sakonstitucio

cvlilebebiT ratom ewinaaR-

mdegebian? es xom saxifaTo

TamaSia – saakaSvils ase xom

SeuZlia isini 3 TveSi par-

lamentidan gamoyaros, rac

xalxisTvis panRuris amor-

tymis tolfasia.

_ modi, amas fenomeno-

logiurad, sazrisis pozici-

idan SevxedoT. anu davsvaT

SekiTxva sazrisis Sesaxeb –

ras vxedavT sinamdvileSi?

–problema isaa, rom saakaS-

vili TviTon aris winaaRmde-

gobrivi fenomeni. is Tavis

TavSi sruliad sxvadasxva

niSnebs atarebs. rogorc

qarTuli sazogadoebaa Wre-

li, aseve saakaSvili, ro-

gorc fenomeni, Zalian wina-

aRmdegobrivia. anu vsaubrob

reJimze. sinamdvileSi igi

sakuTar TavSi aerTianebda

modernul, pre-modernul da

post-modernul niSnebs. ami-

tomac iyo igi grotesku-

lic, sasaciloc, saSiSic da

a. S. dasavleli damkvirveb-

lisTvis es xandaxan Sokis-

momgvreli iyo, xan piriqiT.

TviTon dasavleTs rom Sev-

xedoT, iqac arian aseTi eqs-

centruli adamianebi, nawi-

lobriv sarkozi da berlus-

koni. magram berluskonis,

saakaSvilisgan gansxvavebiT,

erTi Zalian didi plusi

aqvs – mas aravin mouklavs,

TavSi aravisTvis daurtyams,

aravin uwamebia. igi wminda

komediaa. mas rom msgavsi ram

gaekeTebina, dedas utirebd-

nen. amitom vambob, saakaSvi-

li (saubaria reJimze) Tavis

TavSi Zalian sxvadasxva ra-

Racebs aerTianebs. aqedan ga-

momdinare, sazogadoebac ase-

Tia. esTetikurad saakaSvili

da Cveni sazogadoeba erTma-

neTs Zalian Seesabamebian.

magram arsebobs eTika – “Zma-

Ta sisxli caSi RmerTs Ses-

CuxCuxebs da samarTals

iTxovs”. Cven ki ra miviReT?

_ 108 kaci quCaSi mokles,

700-mde cixeSi. sikvdiliT

dasja rom yofiliyo, amdeni

mokluli namdvilad ar gve-

yoleboda. e. i. ra gamodis,

qveyanaSi sikvdiliT dasja

ar gvaqvs da Tan gvaqvs?!

sxvaTa Soris, SemTxveviTi

ar aris, roca vsaubrobT,

rom mTavaria cixe. mTeli 9

weli am viTarebaSi viyaviT,

saidanac gamosvla SeuZlebe-

li iyo. latinina ambobda –

girgvliani Zveli biWi da

mosaklavi iyoo. `Cvenebi~

amis xmamaRla Tqmas ver be-

davdnen, Tumca imaves fiq-

robdnen. magram

yvelaze `maRal

doneze” mainc xa-

Tuna oCiauri avi-

da, romelmac am

reJimis Sinagani

buneba Zalian zus-

tad gamoxata. man

Tqva – girgvliani

da robaqiZe is fa-

si iyo, rac Cven

wesrigSi gadavixa-

deTo. am gamonaTq-

vams vasiko odiS-

vilma meore dRes-

ve actekuri uwo-

da. mTavari azri

isaa, rom miTosi

da miTosuri az-

rovneba, rituale-

bi arsad ar midis,

yovelTvis CvenTanaa. aqedan

gamomdinare, ukeTesad araso-

des ar iqneba, aramed yovel-

Tvis iqneba sxvanairad. es

eretikuli azria, cxadia,

liberaluri demokratiidan

gamomdinare. zustad ase moq-

medebda saakaSvilis reJimi.

Tavisi SinaarsiT igi marT-

lac actekuri iyo. amitom

zogi adamianis reJimTan da-

pirispireba religiuri xasi-

aTis iyo. roca qristianoba

actekur msxverplSewirvebs

upirispirdeboda, qristiane-

bisTvis am reJimis arsi ab-

soluturad gasagebi iyo.

Tamar SveliZe

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

mogexsenebaT, gamoZiebam Tbi-

lisis mers gigi ugulavasac mi-

ukakuna, (Tanac pirdapiri mniSv-

nelobiT, radgan, baton mers,

Turme ar ecala prokuraturaSi

sasiarulod) Tumca, gaurkveve-

lia, ra droc mis mowmis sta-

tusiT dakiTxvas dasWirda, igi-

ve dro ar daekargeboda proku-

raturaSi gamocxadebulsac?

magram ar movalo da iqiT miad-

gnen.

saqarTvelos moqalaqeebs

Tvalwin udgaT rogor da ra

formiT mihyavda wina xelisuf-

lebas udanaSaulobis prezumpci-

is gaugonari xelyofiT, pirda-

pir braldebulis statusiT

loginebidan wamoyrili adamiane-

bi da axla axali xelisuflebis

amgvari qmedeba, cxadia, saocrad

delikaturi Cans.

`sazogadoebriv mauwyebelSi~

gaformebuli 700 e. w `mkvdari

sulis~ kvaldakval meriis

`mkvdari sulebi~ gamoCndnen, e.w

`alpinist-damlageblebi~ da ki-

dev sad da ramdeni aRmoCndeba,

vin icis.

`mkvdari sulebis~

gaformeba samuSao adgi-

lebze, yovelTvis da

yvela qveyanaSi dasjadi

iyo, amdenad, amgvari

faqtiT (faqtebiT) pro-

kuraturis daintereseba

bunebrivia, Tumca, bato-

ni meri ucnaur gancxa-

debebs akeTebda dakiTx-

vamde da akeTebs dakiTx-

vis Semdegac, rasac ise-

Tive sicrue hqvia, rac TviT saq-

mea...

giorgi bereJiani:: _ `ba-tonma gigi ugulavam `presa.ji~-

sTan interviuSi ganacxada: _

`sxvaTa Soris, liverpulis mer-

ma, `bitlebis~ kvarteti, rom-

lebsac im dros aravin icnobda,

qalqis meriaSi damlageblad ga-

aforma. ori wlis Semdeg, roca

kvartetis saxeli mTel msof-

lios moedo, mers TviT dedo-

falma mouxada bodiSi da lon-

donis merad daniSna. manve gadas-

ca wlis yvelaze warmatebul

xelovanTa mecenatis, vardisfe-

ri bafTis kavalerobis ordeni.

arc `bitlebi~ darCnen valSi da

mas miuZRvnes yvelaze cnobili

albomi `meri pepersi~.

batono mero!

ratom cruobT da eSmakobT?

ratom arafers ambobT Semdeg

garemoebebze?

pirveli _ ratom mouxada

dedofalma mers bodiSi. imitom

xom ara, rom samuel beketi da-

iWires qalaqis fulis aramiz-

nobriv xarjvaze da ori weli

axexines sapyrobileSi. ar SemS-

lia, liverpulis maSindel mers

swored rom samuel beketi erq-

va da ara pepersi.

meore _ umadurma `bitlebma~

is Tqveni naxsenebi albomi, ser-

Jant peperss miuZRvnes da ara

mers. da kidev, arc erT inter-

viuSi cnobili jgufis wevrebi

ar axsenebdnen im meris saxels,

mxolod 2008 wels aRiara pol

makartnim, rom marTlac miirT-

mevdnen dedimisisebs, magram ara

imitom, rom fuli uWirdaT, ub-

ralod, bekets viTomda maTi va-

li hqonda da am gziT ubruneb-

da.

mesame _ beketi marTlac

`bitlebis~ fani iyo da mudmivad

RiRinebda maT simRerebs. Tqven

raRac ar xarT SemCneuli `var-

disferi kvartetis~ simRerebis

RiRinSi. man cxovrebac

`RiRinSi~ daamTavra li-

verpulis fsiqiatriul-

Si, bolo TxuTmeti we-

li iq yofnis periodSi

mxolod makartnis simRe-

ras `litl figizs~ Ri-

Rinebda. etyoba, nanobda

Tavis axalgazrdobis

Secdomas.

meoTxe _ ar mgonia,

Tqven ramiT hgavdeT bekets, man

mxolod erTi Secdoma Caidina.

igi fexiT dadioda samsaxurSi,

velosipedze ver gadasves, ambob-

da, sanam yvela liverpulel

bavSvs ar eyoleba velosipedi,

me fexiT vivlio...

2011 wels Jak Siraks miusa-

jes ori weli pirobiTi, fiqti-

uri samuSao adgilebis Seqmnis

gamo, roca is parizis meri iyo!

Svid fiqtiur samuSao adgilze

iyo laparaki, Tanac, misi brali

ar iyo, rogorc ierarqiuli pa-

suxismgebeli piris.

mokled, gigim asjer meti

xalxi gaaforma fiqtiurad, Ta-

nac, piradi gadawyvetilebiT, ki-

dev Tanac, damatebiTi gadasaxa-

dis dawesebis xarjze da kidev

rom `blataobs~?!..

maia WeliZe

liverpulis mers qalaqisbiujetidan `bitlebis~

dafinansebisTvis ori welimiusajes... ramdens

miusjian Tbilisis mersigive danaSulisTvis?


`̀bbookkeerriiaamm,, uugguullaavvaamm ddaa

ggaabbaaSSvviillmmaa ddaaggeeggmmeess,, rroomm ssaa-

qqaarrTTvveellooss uunnddaa mmiieeRRoo mmaaqqssii-

mmaalluurrii mmssxxvveerrppllii rrooggoorrcc

mmSSvviiddoobbiiaannii mmoossaaxxlleeoobbiiss,,

aasseevvee ssaammxxeeddrroo mmoossaammssaaxxuurreeee-

bbiiss~~,, __ ssaappaattiimmrrooddaann eerrTTii

ddRRiiss ggaannTTaavviissuufflleebbuullii ggee-

nneerraallii tristan wiTe-laSvilis aamm ffrraazzaamm,, ccxxaa-

ddiiaa,, aarraa mmxxoolloodd ssaaqqaarrTTvvee-

llooss,, rruusseeTTiiss mmeeddiiaa-ssiivvrrcceecc

mmooiiaarraa.. `̀ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTii~~ ggeennee-

rraall wwiiTTeellaaSSvviillss,, ZZiirriiTTaa-

ddaadd,, aamm ssaakkiiTTxxzzee ssaassaauubbrroodd

eessttuummrraa,, TTuummccaa,, vveerrcc ssxxvvaa

TTeemmeebbss aavvuuaarreeTT ggvveerrddii..

__ ttrriissttaann,, aamm ffrraazziiss

ggaarrddaa,, bbeevvrrii iisseeTTii rraamm TTqqvvii,,

rraacc ssaakkmmaaoodd sseerriioozzuullii

bbrraallddeebbaaaa ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss yyoo-

ffiillii mmaaRRaallii TTaannaammddeebboobbiiss

ppiirreebbiiss mmiimmaarrTT.. SSeeiiZZlleebbaa,,

uussaammaarrTTlloodd TTaavviissuufflleebbiiss

aaRRkkvveeTTaamm eerrTTggvvaarraadd iiZZaallaa ddaa

zzeeddmmeettaadd kkaatteeggoorriiuullii ggaann-

ccxxaaddeebbeebbii ggaammooggiivviiddaaTT ccxxeell

gguullzzee,, mmaaggrraamm,, ssaavvaarraauuddoodd,,

mmooggiiwweevvTT,, ssaaffuuZZvvlliiaannaadd ddaaaa-

ssaabbuuTTooTT yyvveellaa TTqqvveennii bbrraall-

ddeebbaa..

_ aravin ifiqros, rom

radgan patimrobaSi vimyofe-

bodi, ganawyenebuli kacis

poziciidan vambob rames, me

rasac vambob, imaze pasuxism-

gebelic var. yovelTvis gavi-

meoreb, rom provokatorma,

saqarTvelos mterma da ucxo

qveynis agentobaSi eWvmita-

nilma saakaSvilma wamoiwyo

2008 wlis agvistos omi. er-

Ti kviriT adre piradad me

momamzadebines baza, sadac

unda momxdariyo brZolaSi

dazianebuli teqnikis SekeTe-

ba da mwyobrSi moyvana, am ba-

zis usafrTxoebas uzrunvel-

hyofda Cemi samsaxuri. 7-Si

RamiT artileriam daiwyo

ganlageba da gaxsna cecxli

cxinvalis mimarTulebiT, ra-

sac mohyva saxmeleTo opera-

ciebi da 8-Si dilas xelSi

ekavaT ukve TiTqmis carieli

qalaqis mimdebare terito-

ria. am dros arc erTi Cveni

mSvidobiani mosaxle ar iyo

gamoyvanili, cxovrobdnen

Cveul ritmSi _ ras niSnavs

es? iqiTa mxaris mSvidobiani

mosaxleoba, albaT, ori kvi-

ris gaxiznuli iyo ukve,

radgan gaJonili iyo infor-

macia, rom qarTuli mxare

iwyebda sabrZolo moqmede-

bebs.

__ ccxxiinnvvaallSSii kkoonnssttiittuuccii-

uurrii wweessrriiggiiss aaRRddggeennaass

vviiwwyyeebbTToo –– CCeemmii yyuurriiTT mmaaqqvvss

mmoossmmeenniillii......

_ vin da ra Tqva, faqti

saxezea, es iyo sabrZolo

moqmedebebis ganaxleba da ma-

namde Segnebulad ar moxda

mSvidobiani mosaxleobis eva-

kuacia. 2008 wlis agvistos

omSi saakaSvils un-

doda maqsimaluri

msxverpli da msxver-

plis raodenoba sad-

Rac, 10 000-s rom

gadaaWarbebda, awivl-

deboda, ariqa, gviSve-

leTY msoflio saer-

TaSoriso organiza-

ciebo, ruseTma mog-

viwyo genocidi da

mTlad rom ar gavq-

reT, gadagvafareT na-

tos kalTa, daCqare-

buli wesiT migviRe-

To. rogorc Cans, am

informaciamac gaJona,

rusebma Sexedes, ra

formiT xdeboda qarTuli

mxaris moqmedeba da saomari

moqmedebebi Secvales wesri-

gis damyarebiT. ase rom, ra

moxda 2008 wlis agvistoSi,

am saqmis gamoZieba daiwyon

saakaSvilis dakiTxviT da mi-

ayolon bbookkeerriiaa,, ggaabbaaSSvviillii,,

aaddeeiiSSvviillii,, mmeerraabbiiSSvviillii,, uugguu-

llaavvaa,, TTaarrggaammaaZZee,, mTeli maTi

xrova, e.w politikuri gun-

di, romlebic xelmZRvane-

lobdnen samxedro operaci-

ebs.

__ ssaammxxeeddrroo ooppeerraacciiaass ssaa-

mmooqqaallaaqqoo ppiirreebbii rrooggoorr xxeell-

mmZZRRvvaanneelloobbddnneenn......

_ Camovidodnen 12 saaTze,

dadgebodnen Stabis win kame-

rebisTvis sapoziorod, Sevi-

dodnen erTi saaTiT StabSi,

miiRebdnen saqarTvelosTvis

momakvdinebel gadawyvetile-

bas, gabrundebodnen ukan da

qeifobdnen, iq ki xalxi ixo-

ceboda, gmirebi ixocebodnen...

movuwodeb im xalxs, ro-

melTa ojaxis wevrebic im

dros daiRupnen da eqsperti-

zis Catarebis ufleba ar

misces, moiTxovon informa-

cia, sad da ra dros daiRup-

nen da sad aqvT tyvia nasro-

li _ zurgSi aqvT tyvia mox-

vedrili... umetesoba daRupu-

lia imitom, rom kavSirgabmu-

loba ar iyo da ukan daxevis

dros sabrZolo qvedanayofe-

bi, radgan erTmaneTTan kavSi-

ri ar hqondaT, erTmaneTs

uxsnidnen cecxls – mTeli

marTva iyo paralizebuli,

rac, upirvelesad, mTavarsar-

dlis pasuxismgeblobaa, es

aris genStabis brali, ro-

melmac ver marTa fronti,

Tumca, romc sdomoda, sa-

kiTxavia, amarTvinebda saakaS-

vili?

__ ggeennSSttaabbiiss uuffrroossii zzaazzaa

ggooggaavvaa iiyyoo mmaaSSiinn,, aarraa??

_ diax! dakiTxon gogava,

ratom arafers ekiTxebian? me

ver vxedav, rom vinmes ainte-

resebdes 2008 wlis agvis-

tos saqmis gamoZieba. es du-

mili ras niSnavs, jer ar vi-

ci, axali gamosuli var ci-

xidan. yvela samxedro mosam-

saxure, romelic Tavisi Tva-

liT xedavda, ra xdeboda

2008 wlis sabrZolo moqme-

debebis dros, unda iyos da-

kiTxuli.

__ mmaaiinntteerreesseebbss,, rraa ggiinnddoo-

ddaa iimm ddrrooss iiqq,, SSeenn xxoomm kkaarr-

ggaa xxaanniiaa `̀CCaammoowweerriillii~~ xxaarr......

_ Camowerili da vadaga-

suli saakaSvilia!... 2005

wels davtove saqarTvelos

SeiaraRebuli Zalebi. 2007

wels Seiqmna usafrTxoebis

samsaxuri, romlis xelmZRva-

nelic viyavi me, xelSekru-

leba gavaforme Tavdacvis sa-

ministrosTan da daviwyeT

Tavdacvis saministros sare-

monto bazebis usafrTxoebis

uzrunvelyofa saqarTvelos

masStabiT. es bazebi iyo Tbi-

lisSi, gorSi, quTaisSi da

senakSi. amdenad, uSualod

Cemi movaleoba iyo, rom gor-

Si vyofiliyavi sabrZolo

moqmedebebis dros. goris ba-

zis usafrTxoebis ufrosad

daniSnuli myavda ttaarriieell

TTooddaaZZee,, romelic aseve daiWi-

res... xalxi mitovebuli iyo,

kaco!... TviTon rusi samxed-

roebi urigebdnen purs, kon-

servebs da raRacebs... xalxma

is ki ar icis, rom es patri-

arqis mier borisovisTvis ga-

dacemuli fuliT keTdeboda,

rusebis keTilSobilebas mia-

wers, magram rom ar gaekeTe-

binaT, ra, ar SeeZloT? ra-

tom ar vTqva es, an ras vam-

bob imaze mets, rasac xalxi

ambobs _ xalxma Cemze meti

da Cemze ukeT icis, rac xde-

boda... ra, TviTon ar ician?

_ ixveweboda bboorriissoovvii,, mo-

diT, CaibareT Tqveni raioni,

aiyvaneT kontrolze da mixe-

deTo. lomaia rom daiarebo-

da bboorriissoovvTTaann restoranSi,

ras dadioda, ver gavige?! ggoo-

rroozziiaa Cabanis mZRoli iyo,

vvaarrZZeellaaSSvviillii TviTon ambobda

wuxel rus generlebTan er-

Tad vqeifobdio da sxvaze

iSveren xels _ ruseTis ja-

SuSebio? eseni erTad qei-

fobdnen da Cven tyeebSi ga-

xiznulebi morigi Tavdacvis-

Tvis vemzadebodiT...

__ eeWWvvqqvveeSS ddaaaayyeenneess SSeennii mmee-

oommrroobbaacc,, TTuummccaa,, mmee kkaarrggaadd

mmaaxxssoovvss,, rroomm jjeerr kkiiddeevv ssaammaa-

CCaabbllooSSii ssiikkvvddiillss xxaarr ggaa-

ddaarrCCeenniillii......

_ eseni sad iyvnen, 1989

wels oci kaci rom viyaviT

da vicavdiT adgilobriv mo-

saxleobas osi separatiste-

bisgan...

rodesac daiwyo sabrZo-

lo operaciebi, Cemi amocana

iyo damekavebina sofeli osf-

risi. es iyo strategiuli

mniSvnelobis sofeli, saida-

nac moxdeboda wveriaxos

mTis dakaveba, romelic dah-

yurebs cxinvals. paralelu-

rad unda gakeTebuliyo Se-

movliTi gza, gadasuliyvnen

sofel xeiTsa da mimdebare

soflebSi. mizanSi amoRebuli

daviWeri gul-mkerdis areSi,

vigrZeni, rom tyvia momxvda

da gadavvardi, gaiara karabi-

nis tyviam sxeulSi da gavi-

da gareT. gons rom movedi,

cxonebuli ggiiaa uufflliissaaSSvviillii

davinaxe, Stabis ufrosi iyo

da ddaaTToo ggeellaaSSvviillii _ ormx-

rivi cecxli iyo da biWebs

gamovyavdi, fexebiT mimaTrev-

dnen. xevidan zemoT rom amaT-

ries, iq ggiiaa yyaarryyaarraaSSvviillii

maxsovs, patara bavSviviT

Tavze gadamisva xeli, gamagr-

dio... mere araferi aRar max-

sovs... erTi Tve viweqi res-

publikur saavadmyofoSi da

gamoviqeci, batalionSi mive-

di isev da poziciaze videqi

bolomde, manam, sanam gamosv-

lis brZaneba ar gasces. bata-

lioni xelaxla davakompleq-

teT, gadavamzadeT da afxa-

zeTSi sabrZolo moqmedebebis

dawyebisTanave, 20 agvistos,

ukve zRviT gadamisroles

foTidan gagris mimarTule-

biT. mawuxebda Wrilobebi,

magram ras izam, unda daicva

samSoblo. ras ambob, teri-

toriebs marTmevdnen da maSin

jan-Roniani qarTveli kaci

rogor unda damjdariyo sax-

lSi, an am virTxebiviT ro-

gor unda gaZurwuliyvnen ga-

WirvebaSi Cavardnili samSob-

lodan!

__ iissiicc kkaarrggaadd mmaaxxssoovvss,,

ggaaccvvlliillii ttyyvvee rroomm xxaarr......

_ gagra rom daeca, maSin

agviyvanes tyved. Svidi dRe

adlerSi, klubSi Camwyvdeu-

lebi viyaviT da mere tyveeb-

Si gagvcvales, ggiivvii kkvvaannttaa-

lliiaannii da ssaannddrroo kkaavvssaaZZee iyv-

nen am molaparakebaSi. maSin

xelSi viyavi daWrili. meTa-

urebze nadirobdnen, Setake-

bisas Tu ar moklavdnen,

xelSi Cagdebuli, gudauTaSi

calke gadahyavdaT. me mixsnes

Cemma `avazelebma~ _ irgvliv

uamravi micvalebuli iyo, Ce-

mi zomis gvams gaxades samo-


internetSi


saakaSvils undoda, rac SeiZleba meti

qarTveli daxociliyo 2008 wlis agvistos

omSi da micvalebulTa raodenoba 10 000-s

rom gadaaWarbebda, mere ekivla _

rusebma genocidi mogviwyves, ariqa,

saswrafod migviReT natoSio...


qalaqo tansacmeli, Camacves

da ver gaigo mowinaaRmdegem,

rom batalionis meTauri viya-

vi, Torem damTavrebuli iqne-

boda Cemi ambavi...

__ aaxxllaa 44 wwlliissaa ddaa 55 TTvviiss

cciixxeeSSii jjddoommiiss SSeemmddeegg rraass

ffiiqqrroobb,, rraattoomm ddaaggaakkaavveess??

_ imitom, rom, rac Caidi-

na saakaSvilma da misma bandam

2008 wlis agvistos omis

dros, me iq bevri ram sakuTa-

ri TvaliT vnaxe da movismine;

ratom iyo Catovebuli mosax-

leoba iq, ratom iyo didi

msxverpli saWiro...

__ rriiTTii ddaaaammttkkiicceebb,, rroomm

aasseeTTii ssaauubbaarrii mmaarrTTllaacc SSeedd-

ggaa......

_ me diqtofoni da kamera

ar mqonda, riTi Caviwerdi,

magram faqtebi da Sedegebi

xom saxezea. wamebSi Semovb-

rundi ukan, guja iyo iq,

bucxrikiZe, isic saqmis kurs-

Si iyo rac iTqva, organizeba

gavukeTeT jgufebs da da-

viwyeT mosaxleobis gamoyvana.

omis veteranebi iyvnen iq da

iaraRs ar aZlevdnen, ar

gvWirdebiTo da rezervistebi

Camoyares, gawires bavSvebi _

es rom davinaxe, xmamaRla da-

viwye yvirili. rogor SeiZle-

boda gamoucdeli studente-

bis iq Camoyvana meomrebad,

kargi, Camoiyvane, mosaxleobis

gamosayvanad SeiZleboda maTi

gamoyeneba, magram amaT klubeb-

sa da darbazebSi Seiyvanes er-

Tad da Caketes, samizned gaam-

zades. Cven rom yvirili ar

dagvewyo da ar gamogveyvana,

aba, gaiSaleTo, savele darty-

mebiT Caixocebodnen yvelani...

iqiTa mxridan gvamebi ar ga-

mohqondaT, lpoba daiwyo ag-

vistos xvatSi, epidemiis gaCe-

nis saSiSroeba gaCnda da ami-

tom daiwyes maTi dawva. pat-

riarqi da sapatriarqo rom

ara, verc erTi micvalebuli

ojaxs ver daubrundeboda...

micvalebulebi iq eyarnen

upatronod da amaT aq taS-

fanduri hqondaT, gavimarjve-

To.

xom faqtia, rom saakaSvi-

li saqarTvelos kaci ar aris,

magram sakiTxavia, romeli,

ramdeni qveynisa da organiza-

ciis agentia. Cven mxolod is

viciT, rom `kgb-is~ efreito-

ri iyo, misi biZa ki, `fsb-is~

generali, xolo cneba `yofi-

li kagebeCniki~, ar arsebobs,

an xar, an ar xar. xelSi rom

mekavos misi piradi nomeri da

koduri saxeli, sxva iqnebo-

da... sasazRvro jarebSi sten-

dze gamoWimes `kgb-is~ forma-

Si gamowyobili fics rom Re-

bulobs _ ratom dauwyes va-

leri CxeiZes devna, imitom,

rom es yvelaferi gamoamzeura

_ Camovida ukve da hkiTxeT...

__ ssaammxxeeddrroo ssaaqqmmee,, aassee TTuu

iissee,, mmoovviiTTaavveeTT,, aaxxllaa cciixxeezzee

ggaaddaavviiddeeTT......

_ mxolod Cven ki ar viya-

viT cixeSi, Tqvenc cixeSi

cxovrobdiT, mTeli saqarTve-

lo, oRond Ria tipis dawese-

bulebaSi da cota SeRavaTian

pirobebSi.

__ ggeeTTaannxxmmeebbii,, mmaaggrraamm vviissaauubb-

rrooTT SSeennzzee __ ppiirrvveellaadd iiyyaavvii

mmee-88 ssaappyyrroobbiilleeSSii......

_ pirvelad viyavi saSinao

tansacmliT modulis Senoba-

Si gatacebuli ori dRe, am

operacias xelmZRvanelobda

ddaaCCii jjaaffaarriiZZee.. es ra kacia,

ici, sakuTar qorwilSi ded-

mama ar gaikara, me iseTi wris

coli moviyvane, iq ver gamoga-

CenTo...

__ gguunnaavvaa ZZmmiiss ggaassvveenneebbaass aarr

ddaasswwrreebbiiaa,, nnaarrkkoommaannii iiyyoooo......

_ uaresebsac getyodiT...

eseni, yvelani, erTnairebi ari-

an, erTnairi maxinji fsiqikis,

erTnairi Sexedulebebis cxov-

rebaze, urTierTobaze, erTma-

neTis colebze...

Tqveni gazeTiT naTqvami

maqvs, rogor damakaves, amitom

dawvrilebiT ar movyvebi _

modulis SenobaSi rom mimiy-

vanes iq damxvdnen samoqalaqo

formaSi Cacmuli gienebi. llee-

vvaann ttaabbiiZZeemm `dubinka~ amomdo

nikapqveS – levan tabiZe aris

kriminali, romelic mfarve-

lobda pirovnebas, romelsac

ruseTidan Camohqonda narko-

tiki da xvdeboda aeroportSi

_ misive TanamSromlma gaTqva.

misgan gadamanacvles SSaallvvaa

JJRReennttTTaann _ isaa yvelaferi.

saSineleba xdeboda sardafSi,

jariskacebs daRlamde ur-

tyamdnen xelketebiT... yvelaf-

riT damemuqrnen, magram Signi-

dan gavqvavdi, rac gindaT mi-

qeniT, ar vaRiareb imas, rac

ar yofila, ar davadeb xels

im xalxs (iirraakkllii bbaaTTiiaaSSvviillii,,

ggooggaa xxaaiinnddrraavvaa,, eemmzzaarr kkvviicciiaa-

nnii), viszec meubnebiT-meTqi.

__ rraattoomm ddaaggiinnddeess......

_ vin damindo, xelCarTu-

li Cxubi gvqonda, gamigdes

iatakze da mere raRac ubedu-

ri nemsi gamikeTes beWSi, gav-

debildi, bindi gadamekra Tva-

lebze. ra dandoba! dandoba ki

ara, mklavdnen kacs... cema, ce-

ma da cema... ar vici rogor

gavuZeli Cemi janmrTelobis

kacma im yvelafers, magram ra-

Rac Zala meZleoda...

viRac ityvis, marTla ga-

ufreniao, magram cixeSi cal-

cali TvaliT vTvlemdi xol-

me da micvalebulebs cxadad

vxedavdi, raRac miniSnebebs

maZlevdnen da meore dResve

mixdeboda, xan mamxnevebdnen.

erTxelac gardacvlilma si-

dedrma miTxra, Cemi gakeTebu-

li kotoris (TuSuri xaWa-

puri - m.W.) garda araferi Se-

Wamoo. gaTenda da yava momi-

tanes, gadamekida momkiTxveli,

magari yavaao. jer isedac ar

vsvam yavas, magram Caic rom

yofiliyo, mainc ar davlevdi.

Sen vin xar saerTod da mere,

ar vsvam, Sen dalie-meTqi.

ukanve rom waiRo, gayvnen bi-

Webi da gadaaqcia, ar dalia _

es ukve `matrosovze~ moxda...

avWalaSi 40 dRe kibis sa-

fexurebze meZina mokuntuls,

fexebi damisivda da Cemi mic-

valebulebis xmebi Camesmoda,

`gauZeli biWo, cotac gauZe-

li!~ da es mamxnevebda. dasa-

wols ar maZlevdnen da patim-

rebi gafrTxilebulebi iyvnen,

Tu `smenkaSi~ vinme damawvenda

an damsvamda, is patimari da-

kargavda logins da wavidoda

karcerSi _ tirodnen biWebi,

ra vqnaTo. mere lali afcia-

urma miSvela, atexa mTeli am-

bavi da momces dasawoli...

aravin Tqvas, `mayurebeli~

viyavi da `palaJenia mimyavda-

o~, Tu administracias ar un-

da, arc `palaJenias gagakeTe-

binebs~ da verc magrad ver

icxovreb. e.w `mayureblebi~

`mayureblebi~ ki ara, brigadi-

rebi arian, administraciasTan

TanamSromeli patimrebi, vi-

Tom `kai biWebi~ _ me mkiTxon,

rogori `kai biWebi~ arian...

kai biWebi viyaviT Cven, rom-

lebic vcxovrobdiT ubedure-

baSi, simaxinjeSi, taraknebSi,

tilebSi, 24 saaTian fsiqo-

logiur zewolaSi da vitan-

diT...

es iyo saakaSvilis iseTi

konclageri, romlis msgavsi

hitlersac ar hqonia ebraele-

bisTvis. sad hqondaT nanaxi,

sad waikiTxes aseTi saSinele-

bebi, ra TavebSi mwifdeboda

es amazrzeni survilebi – ase-

Ti rameebi filmebSi ar mina-

xavs. kaco, tyved viyavi da

mteri ar mogvqcevia ase!...

jgufi gamodioda 10 saaT-

ze ezoSi, dadgebodnen cixis

korpusebis win da mTeli xmiT

iginebodnen ojaxebze, col-

Svilze, imuqrebodnen gaupati-

urebiT...

__ mmTTaavvaarrmmaa pprrookkuurroorrmmaa

TTqqvvaa,, rroomm aaqqvvTT kkaaddrreebbii,, ssaaddaacc

ppaattiimmrriiss oojjaaxxiiss wweevvrrTTaa ggaauu-

ppaattiiuurreebbaaaa aassaaxxuullii......

_ me vadastureb, rom ase-

Ti ram xdeboda _ cixea, iq ar

imaleba araferi...

maia WeliZe

_ musulmanur ojaxSi

gavCndi da roca wera-kiTxva

viswavle, pirveli, rac gava-

keTe, daviwye `yuranis~ Ses-

wavla. musulmanuri SariaTi,

islamis istoria, logika, fi-

losofia zedmiwevniT Sevis-

wavle ise, rom 19 wlisas

ukve Tavisuflad SemeZlo

yovelive es musulmanuri

sarwmunoebis maRiarebel-

TaTvis ufro Rrmad mes-

wavlebina. 300-mde mowafe

myavs da axlac didad ma-

faseben, axlac Cems sity-

vas pativs scemen.

bolo 4-5 Tvea davane-

be Tavi yvelafers.

axla 30 wlis var,

mTeli Cemi axalgazrdoba

ZiebaSi gavatare sunitu-

ri Tu Siituri, vahabitu-

ri Tu bahaisturi, ieRo-

vuri, kaTolikuri Tu bap-

tisturi, amitom axla

amaze laparakic ki zedme-

tad meCveneba, radgan mar-

Tlmadidebloba WeSmari-

ti sarwunoeba yofila.

zemoTac giTxariT, Ce-

mi avtoritetis gamo musul-

manebi mendobodnen da mafaseb-

dnen-meTqi da amis Sedegi iyo

ara mxolod azerbaijanidan,

aramed TurqeTidan da irani-

danac ki agzavnidnen xalxs

CemTan, mec miwvevdnen am qvey-

nebSi...

Tumca arasdros Cavreul-

var politikaSi, rogorc mu-

sulmani da musulmanuri sar-

wmunoebis mcodne, vaswavlidi

`yurans~ saqarTveloSi da ar

vapirebdi davmdgariyavi Tur-

qebis an iranelebis mxares.

_ ra moxda iseTi, ram ga-

fiqrebinaT, rom qristianoba

WeSmariti sarwmunoebaa?

_ didi xani ar aris, Cemi

cxovrebis, albaT, yvelaze

gadamwyvet problemas wavawy-

di, safrTxis winaSe aRmovCn-

diT me da Cemi qarTveli me-

uRle Cveni mcirewlovani

SvilebiT, maSin Cemma mego-

barma valeri xvedeliZem, mi-

uxedavad imisa, rom icoda,

rasac akeTebda, musulmans

jvari maCuqa. uari ver vuTxa-

ri, radgan mivxvdi, mTeli gu-

liT moZRvnili saCuqari iyo.

meore stumrobisas RvTism-

Soblis xati misaxsovra,

isic, rogorc jvari, erTad,

erT Taroze movaTavse.

ramdenime dRis Semdeg Ce-

mi patara mariami bebiaCemTan

waviyvane sofelSi. xelSi

ocTeTriani eWira: `kevi~ un-

da viyidoo. metrosTan rom

mivediT, yuTi SeniSna, ekle-

siis mSeneblobaSi daxmare-

bisTvis fulis Sesagroveb-

lad dadgmuli da moindoma,

es ocTeTriani, iq Caegdo. ma-

Sin mRvdelma mariams sanTeli

aCuqa. is sanTeli Cemi megob-

ris naCuqar xatTan davanTe

da warmoidgine, erTi wvrili

sanTeli naxevari dRe enTo,

mzesaviT idga... im momentSi

Zalian mominda xatebis wina-

Se meloca, qristianuli

locva me ar vici, magram rac

gulidan amovida, im sityve-

biT viloce. didi problemis

winaSe videqi da am locviT

TiTqos davwynardi...

rogorc giTxariT, 10 we-

liwadze metia musulmanobas

vqadageb da araviTar angare-

baze ar mifiqria. mejavreboda

iseTi mqadagebelebi, romel-

Tac religia Semosavlis wya-

rod hqondaT da amiT sargeb-

lobdnen. ver vitandi, zogi-

erTebi religiaSi araadamia-

nobas, kacis kvlas da Cagvras

rom nergavdnen, maSin, roca

religia pirdapir qadagebs

kacTmoyvareobas. viRac mety-

vis; is ra iyo, musulmani Sa-

hebi rom qristianebs xocavd-

neno?! saqme isaa, rom isini

musulmanobas, rogorc reli-

gias, boroti zraxvebis iara-

Rad iyenebdnen, Torem musul-

manoba adamianis xocvas ar qa-

dagebs. dResac asea musulma-

nur samyaroSi, es religia 72

seqtadaa dayofili da maTi

nawili agresiulicaa.

_ weRan Tqvi, marTlmadi-

deblur taZarSi monaTvlas

vapirebo...

_ me miyvars saqarTvelo

da mTeli sulierebiT minda

SevuerTde Cems qveyanas da

sxva ras ityvis, es aRar ma-

interesebs.

dRes umuSevari var, arc

saxli maqvs da arc kari da

iciT, ratom? imitom rom me

saqarTvelo davayene yvelaze

maRla. swored am mizeziT Se-

meqmna problemebi. bevrjer

sicocxle damidia sasworze,

magram ar vnanob arafers.

sxvanairad verc ki warmomid-

genia, rogor unda movqceu-

liyavi...

ana vadaWkoria

me miyvars saqarTvelo da mTeli sulierebiT minda SevuerTde mas...musulmanuri religiis maswavlebelma muraz nagievma,

romelic `̀saerTo gazeTis~ stumari araerTxel yofila, mar-

Tlmadidebluri wesiT monaTvlis gadawyvetileba miiRo. gTa-

vazobT masTan intervius.


ramdenime dRRis win eqqsperte-

bi premier-mministrs daxurul

kars miRRma Sexvdnen. konkretu-

lad ra Temebze isaubra biZina

ivaniSvilma eqqspertebTan erTad??

,,saerTo gazeTs” arCevnebisa da

politikuri teqqnologiebis kv-

levis centris xelmZRRvaneli

kaxa kaxiSvili esaubra, ro-

melic premier-mministrTan Sex-

vedras eswreboda.

_ batono kaxa, ramdenime dR-

is win eqspertebi premier-mmi-

nistrs biZina ivaniSvils Sexv-

diT, konkretulad visi inicia-

tiviT Sedga Sexvedra?

_ Cveni Sexvedris iniciato-

ri, ramdenadac vici, ,,damouki-

debel eqspertTa” jgufis xel-

mZRvaneli soso ciskariSvili

iyo. faqtia, radgan Sexvedra Se-

dga msurveli orive mxare iyo.

_ premieris mxridan ra iyo

yvelaze prioritetuli sakiTxe-

bi, romelzec biZina ivaniSvils

eqspertebis azri, yvelaze metad

ainteresebda?

_ CvenTan saubrisas premieri

absoluturad gaxsnili iyo.

sxvaTa Soris, Sexvedra Zalian

Sinauruli iyo, yovelgvari

protokoluri normebis dacvis

gareSe. biZina ivaniSvils Cveni

damokidebuleba da pozicia ab-

soluturad yvela TemasTan da-

kavSirebiT ainteresebda. man Cv-

ens mier dasmul yvela SekiTx-

vas upasuxa da arc erTi sa-

kiTxi Riad, pasuxgaucemeli ar

dautovebia dawyebuli afxazeT-

Si rkinigzis mSeneblobis Temi-

dan, damTavrebuli im sabotaJis

niSnebiT, romelic qveyanaSi ik-

veTeba.

_ Sexvedris dros Tu gamo-

ikveTa sakiTxebi, razec eqsper-

tebsa da biZina ivaniSvils saer-

To pozicia ar aRmogaCndaT da

SeTanxmebas ver miaRwieT?

_ biZina ivaniSvilTan miwve-

uli ar vyofilvarT garkveul

sakiTxebze SeTanxmeba-arSeTanx-

mebis gamo. Cven ar varT arc

mTavrobisa da arc sakanonmdeb-

lo organos wevrebi. bunebrivia,

premier-ministrs ainteresebda

Cveni pozicia sxvadasxva sakiTx-

ze. es iyo Sexvedra im informa-

ciis miwodebisTvis, romelic

premiers, SesaZloa, ar hqonda.

_ ramdenad Sedegze orienti-

rebuli iqneba msgavsi tipis Se-

xvedrebi da gaiTvaliwinebs Tu

ara biZina ivaniSvili Tqvens po-

zicias?

_ Sexvedris dros biZina iva-

niSvilma brZana, rom gadatvir-

Tuli grafikis gamo SesaZleb-

loba ar aqvs yoveldRiurad ga-

ecnos presas da uyu-

ros televizors, ami-

tom SevTavaze, msgavsi

tipis Sexvedrebi peri-

odulad gaimarTos,

radgan mivawodoT yve-

la is informacia, ro-

melic SeiZleba biZina

ivaniSvilTan misuli

ar iyos, an sxva

kuTxiT miwodebuli

iyos. am iniciativas

premier-ministris po-

zitiurad Sexvda da

gamoTqva TveSi er-

Txel analogiuri Sex-

vedris survili.

_ rac Seexeba qve-

yanaSi mimdinare poli-

tikur procesebs, kerZod, biZina

ivaniSvilma irakli alasania Ta-

namdebobrivad CamoaqveiTa,

,,erovnuli forumi” da ,,qarTu-

li ocneba_demokratiuli saqar-

Tvelos” gaerTianeba gadaido,

saparlamento umravlesobis li-

deri raionuli organizaciebi-

dan ,,Tavisufali demokratebis”

wevrebis garicxvas moiTxovs. am

faqtebidan gamomdinare, SeiZle-

ba Tqma, rom koaliciaSi Sida

dapirispireba da konkurencia

daiwyo?

_ Tavidanve koalicia ar iyo

erT ideologiaze dafuZnebuli

erToba. koaliciaSi gaerTianebu-

li partiebis mizani biZina iva-

niSvilis gverdiT yofna iyo.

ivaniSvilmac koaliciaSi gasa-

wevrianeblad airCia, partiebi,

romelTan urTierTobac sworad

miaCnda. Sesabamisad, yvela par-

tia cdilobs ivaniSvilis irgv-

liv Tavi daimkvidros da xelSi

SesaZlo berketebi aiRos, rad-

gan koaliciis daSlis Semdeg

xelisuflebaSi dasarCenad re-

sursi gaaCndeT. Sesabamisad, par-

tiebi swored axla iwyeben saku-

Tari poziciebis gamagrebas da

principSi es mosalodnelic iyo.

_ rac Seexeba ,,nacionaluri

moZraobis” generaluri mdivnis

ivane merabiSvilis gancxadebas.

ras fiqrobT, merabiSvilis mxr-

idan msgavsi gancxadebebis gake-

Teba, ubralod, samoqmedo taq-

tikaa, Tu maT marTlac SeiZle-

ba hqondes saakaSvilis gunds

ivaniSvilis garemocvis dasus-

tebis gegma?

_ realurad, ,,nacmoZraoba”

ar aris uberketo, ufulo par-

tia. dResdReobiT maT daimkvid-

res saparlamento opoziciis

statusi da Sesabamisad, sapar-

lamento tribunis aTvisebas

iwyeben. ,,nacionalebis” gancxa-

debebi emsaxureba imas, rom isi-

ni politikuri arenidan ar da-

ikargon da metnaklebad poli-

tikuri oponentis statusi mo-

irgon. Aamitom maT mimdinare

procesebis politikur WrilSi

gadatana sWirdebaT, TiTqos maT

Cagraven.

batoni vanos gancxadebas

rac Seexeba, man gaimeora is, ris

molodini piradad mqonda da

rac maT 2003 wels gaakeTes.

zogadad, ,,nacionaluri moZrao-

bisTvis” damaxasiaTebelia ram-

denime wliT opoziciaSi gasvla,

paralelurad, mxardamWerebis

aRmasrulebel xelisuflebaSi

datoveba da periodulad sabo-

taJuri moqmedebebi, radgan mox-

des azris formireba, TiTqos

axali xelisufleba ususuria.

SemTxveviTi araa, rom sokoebi-

viT momravldnen arasamTavrobo

organizaciebi, sadac erTiande-

bian yofili xelisuflebis uma-

Rlesi sajaro pirebi.

saqarTveloSi mimdinare pro-

cesebTan dakavSirebiT, saerTa-

Soriso organizaciebSi infor-

macias agzavnis ,,nacionaluri

moZraoba~, mixeil saakaSvili,

rogorc prezidenti, giga boke-

ria, rogorc uSiSroebis sabWos

mdivani da TavisTavad maTi mxar-

damWerebiT dakompleqtebuli

arasamTavrobo organizaciebi da

yvela es informacia iqneba iden-

turi da negatiuri. Sesabamisad,

dasavleTis TvalSi ,,nacionale-

bi” Seqmnian fons, TiTqos saqar-

TveloSi umZimesi viTarebaa. ar

vambob, rom es scenari uaxloes

momavalSi moxdeba, magram ukve

erT-or welSi ,,qarTul ocneba-

Si” ganawyenebuli pirebi iqne-

bian, isini am partiaSi sakuTar

momavals ver dainaxaven da cxa-

dia, daiwyeben maTTvis sasurve-

li kavSirebis damyarebas yvel-

aze mdidar partiasTan ,,naciona-

lur moZraobasTan”. maSin, roca

,,nacionaluri moZraobis” gene-

raluri mdivani acxadebs, rom

xelisuflebaSi movalT ara ar-

Cevnebis, ara xelisuflebis ga-

datrialebis gziT, Sesabamisad,

maT mcocavi uzurpaciis gziT

rCebaT Sansi xelisuflebaSi da-

sabruneblad.

vvaraudob, rom ,,qa-rTuli ocneba-demok-ratiuli saqarTvel-os” yrilobis Catare-bis Semdegac daidgmebaspeqtaklebi, sadac pa-rtiis wevrebi daxeven,,qarTuli ocnebis” man-datebs, ityvian, rom,,qarTuli ocneba” aR-ar undaT. vinmes SeiZ-leba es faqti sasaci-lod moeCvenos, magrames miiRebs masiur xasi-aTs da bevri adamianidarCeba ,,qarTuli oc-nebisgan” ganawyenebu-li, romlebic wava im

partiaSi, vinc mis da-finansebas SeZlebs. ga-s a T va l i w i n e b e l i a ,rom biZina ivaniSvilssakuTari partia araqvs, amitom yvelazekargi gamosavali iqne-ba sakuTari partiisgaZliereba da partia-Si im adamianebis miyva-na, visac ivaniSvili da-eyrdnoba.

_ asi dRe gavida mas Semdeg,

rac ivaniSvilis gundi xeli-

suflebaso movida. rogor Sea-

fasebT, ganvlil periods ra iyo

premieris gundis mxridan dade-

biTi da negatiuri nabijebi?

_ qveyanaSi SiSi moixsna da

amas ivaniSvilis garda veravin

moaxerxebda, radgan swored man

gauwia seriozuli winaaRmdego-

ba saakaSvils. amavdroulad xe-

lisufleba Zalian bevr Secdo-

mas uSvebs, rac gamomdinareobs

bevri faqtoridan, kerZod, sa-

kadro politikidan bevri saja-

ro moxelis mxridan sazogado-

ebasTan kontaqtis gawyveta.

warmoidgineT, Tu biZina ivaniS-

vilma sakuTari daZabuli gra-

fikidan gamomdinare, moaxerxa

CvenTan samsaTnaxevari Sexvedra,

amas ministrebi ver axerxeben?

rogor SeiZleba xalxi, rome-

lic erTsa da imave prokurors

cxra wlis ganmavlobaSi uCioda,

isev misgan miiRos werili, rom

gancxadeba ganxiles, magram adre

yvelaferi sworad iyo gamoZie-

buli da saqmeSi aranairi darR-

veva ar aris. amasTan qveyanaSi

samarTlianobis aRdgenis momen-

tic moikoWlebs, calke ,,nacmoZ-

raobis: mxridan Segnebulad

xdeba xelisuflebis ususuro-

bis demonstrireba. amasTan sa-

parlamento opoziciuri tribu-

niT sargeblobs mxolod ,,nac-

moZraoba” da warmoidgineT,

ucxoelebTan Sexvedris dr-

os, saparlamento opoziciis

reJimSi Sexvedrisas, sadac

mxolod ,,nacionaluri moZ-

raoba” iqneba warmodgenili

ra informacia miewodeba sa-

erTaSoriso organizaciebs.

albaT, ivaniSvilis am gare-

moebas iTvaliswinebs da ga-

moricxuli araa, man Segnebu-

lad Seqmnas saparlamento

opozicia, romelic saakaSvi-

lis gunds umciresobis mik-

rofons gauyofs.

vfiqrob, rom al-asaniasgan Segnebuladqmnian saparlamentoopoziciis liderisrols, TiTqos raRacdaZabuloba arsebobsivaniSvilsa da mas So-ris. Tumca biZina iva-niSvili, romelic ala-sanias yvelaze metadendoma misi saSuale-biT ecdeba saparlamen-to opoziciis flang-ze poziciebis dalage-bas. romelic daCrdi-lavs, ,,nacmoZraobis”saparlamento opozi-cias.

miranda nabaxteveli

kaxa kaxiSvili:kaxa kaxiSvili: dasavleTis TvalSi`nacionalebi~ qmnian fons, TiTqos saqarTveloSi umZimesi viTarebaa


internetSi


arasamTavrobo organizacia `sa-

erTaSoriso gamWvirvaloba - saqar-

Tvelo~ internetis Tavisuflebis

Temaze diskusias gamarTavs.

rogorc „medianiuss“ organiza-

ciidan Seatyobines, Sexvedra dRes

TbilisSi, evropis saxlSi moewyo-

ba, sadac „saerTaSoriso gamWvirva-

loba – saqarTvelo“ warmoadgens

axal angariSs: „internetis Tavi-

sufleba – vin akontrolebs saqar-

Tvelos satelekomunikacio seq-

tors?“

angariSi moicavs Semdeg sakiTxebs: interne-

tis moxmarebis statistika saqarTveloSi; in-

ternetSi ganxorcielebuli saqmianobis meTval-

yureoba; satelekomunikacio kom-

paniebis mflobeloba da maTi an-

gariSvaldebuleba momxmareblebis

winaSe; onlain media - mediasaSu-

alebaTa finansuri mdgradoba.

angariSis prezentaciis Semdeg

gaimarTeba diskusia, romelzec

satelekomunikacio kompaniebis,

samTavrobo struqturebisa da on-

lain media saSualebebis warmo-

madgenlebi saqarTvelos teleko-

munikaciebis seqtoris sxvadasxva

aspeqtze isaubreben. RonisZieba dafinansebulia

organizacia „IREX”-iis G-MEDIA programis

farglebSi, romelic xorcieldeba aSS-iis saer-

TaSoriso ganviTarebis saagentos meSveobiT.

iinntteerrnneettiiss TTaavviissuufflleebbiiss TTeemmaazzee TTbbiilliissSSii ddiisskkuussiiaa ggaaiimmaarrTTeebbaa


gTavazobT saubars Jurna-

list gela qoqiaSvil-Tan, romelic sxvadasxva

dros sazogadoebrivi mauwyeb-

lis sxvadasxva sapasuxismgeb-

lo Tanamdebobebze muSaobda

da mas Semdeg, rac is mixeil

saakaSvilis dedis ambiciebis

gamo samsaxuridan daiTxoves,

garkveul dros `saerTo ga-

zeTSic~ aqqveynebda saintereso

dokumentur-mmxatvrul narkve-

vebs qqarTuli istoriuli Zeg-

lebis da toponimebis Sesaxeb.

_ ra xdeba sazogadoebriv

mauwyebelze, batono gela,

Tqven wlebis ganmavlobaSi I

arxze mniSvnelovani Tanamde-

boba gekavaT da mimaCnia, rea-

lurad SeafasebT iq Seqmnil

situacias.

_ dRes sazogadoebrivi ma-

uwyeblis e.w. bordSi arc er-

Ti profesionali araa. igi

dakompleqtebulia politiku-

ri Tanamoazreebis, nacnob-me-

gobrobis da a.S. niSniT.

dRes yuradReba gadatani-

lia ara profesionalur mid-

gomaze, aramed politikaze,

politikur mimarTulebaze in-

formaciaSi.

zogs miaCnia, rom Tu te-

leviziaSi gamarTulad muSa-

obs sainformacio ganyofile-

ba, televizia kargad muSaobs,

magram, rogorc saakaSvils

uyvarda gamoTqma: nuras ukac-

ravad, ase ar aris.

rac unda Zlieri, operati-

uli da marTali iyos sain-

formacio gadacema, mas mainc

ar eyoleba mayurebeli da ar

iqneba mosaxleobisTvis sando,

Tu am informaciamde, an in-

formaciis Semdeg gadacemebi

ar iqneba erovnuli, Semecnebi-

Ti, sainteroso, saxaliso,

Tanamedrove.

samwuxarod, televizia

dRes gaxda feradi radio. te-

leviziaSi mTavaria gamosaxu-

leba, anu uxeSad rom vTqvaT,

mTavari aris kino. telegada-

cemaSi gamosaxuleba unda

metyvelebdes, Jurnalistebi,

ubralod, exmarebian am pro-

cess.

dRes vizuali gaqra tele-

viziebidan. zian studiebSi da

midis lailai da es radioa,

radgan ekranze moZraoba araa,

araferi ar xdeba, SegiZlia,

xmas auwio, gaxvide, magali-

Tad, samzareuloSi da Cai mi-

irTva ise, rom araferi gamog-

rCeba.

_ esec arakompetenturo-

bis bralia?

_ es imis bralia, televi-

ziebSi prodiuserebi rom

aRar arian, aRar gvyavs kargi

telereJisorebi, gamocdili

operatorebi.

_ specialistebi ar gvyo-

lia da kargi televizia ro-

gor gveqneba?!

_ Cemo kargo, specialis-

tebi saxlSi gauSves. zogi

nerviulobisagan gardaicvala

imis gamo, rom Carecxes xal-

xi. reJisorebic, operatore-

bic da kargi Jurnalistebic

`Carecxes~, mirek-morekes, ga-

yares... da dRes sazogadoebri-

vi mauwyebeli, xalxis fuliT

dafinansebuli telemauwyeb-

loba, romelic, wesiT, yvela-

ze damoukidebeli unda iyos,

kerZo televiziebisgan gansx-

vavebiT, sxvadasxva patronzea

damokidebuli da suls Ra-

favs, rogorc ori ZiZis xel-

Si myofi Cvili.

zogierTs isic ver gaurCe-

via, riTi gansxvavdeba saxelm-

wifo televizia saxelisufle-

bo televiziisgan. saxelmwifo

televizia saxelisuflebos ar

niSnavs, imitom, rom saxelmwi-

fo aris xalxi. Cemi azriT,

rogorc uzenaesi sasamarTlos

Tavmjdomaris arCeva xdeba, ise

unda airCion sazogadoebrivi

televiziis mmarTveli.

_ Tqven aRar gicdiaT te-

levizias dabrunebodiT?

_ amaze aRarc ki vfiqrob.

12 weliwadi xdeba, rac te-

leviziidan gamomdevnes, Tum-

ca, mimaCnia, rom gadacema, ro-

melsac vakeTebdi, saWiro da

mniSvnelovani iyo ara mxo-

lod Tormeti wlis win, ara-

med aqtualuria axlac. gada-

cemebis proeqtebs wlidan

wlamde kontraqtis safuZvel-

ze warvadgendiT xolme,

mtkicdeboda da gadioda

eTerSi. roca kontraqtis va-

da dasrulda, miTxres, radgan

gadacema `saqarTvelo aris

ese~ reitinguli gadacemaa,

kvlav gagrZeldebao. progra-

mebis SerCevis wina dReebSi

SemTxveviT movikiTxe Cemi ga-

dacemis bedi. kolegebma sa-

eWvod Caigubes pirSi wyali.

rogorc aRmoCnda, Cemi pro-

eqtis paralelurad sakon-

kursod proeqti giuli

alasanias Semoetana. kon-

kursSi monawileoba unda

migveRo me da qalbaton gi-

ulis. ra Tqma unda, amas az-

ri ar hqonda da, radgan ar

mindoda fonis roli Semes-

rulebina, maSinve uari

vTqvi am farsSi monawileo-

baze. es moxda 2004 wels.

_ gaakeTa saakaSvilis

dedam kargi gadacema?

_ Cven wlebis ganmavloba-

Si namuSevari gvqonda dagro-

vili, mTeli saqarTvelos xu-

roTmoZRvreba firebze gvqon-

da datanili. qalbatonma giu-

lim ki imiT daiwyo, rom Cavi-

da mcxeTaSi da sveticxoveli

gadaiRo. sveticxoveli gada-

Rebuli gvqonda da SesaniSna-

vi siuJetebic gvqonda momza-

debuli, magram es araa mTava-

ri. saqme imaSia, rom giuli

alasaniam am erTi gadacemis

momzadebaSi 10-jer meti Tan-

xa daxarja, waiyvanes amweman-

qanebi, gaakeTes dekoraciebi,

moiwvies xalxi, Seqmnes audi-

toria da diskusia, magram es

ar iyo araferi, es ar iyo

filmi, es iyo gadacema, rome-

lic mihyavda erT-erT isto-

rikoss ise, rogorc atarebs

leqcias xalxmraval darbaz-

Si.

amis Semdeg giuli alasa-

nias gadacema aRar gaukeTebia

da Cemi gadacemac `mokvda~

ase.

erT Zvel ambavsac gavixse-

neb... `vardebis revolucia~

axali momxdari iyo. erT dRes

mixeil saakaSvili gvewvia.

Segvkriba TanamSromlebi da

ase mogvmarTa: Tqvennairi dam-

saxurebuli da daufasebeli

xalxi saqarTveloSi arsad

araa. Tqven magdanas lurjasa-

viT geqcevian _ gamuSaveben da

Tan saxres gitylaSuneben _

ginda Tu ara, ise gaakeTe, ro-

gorc gibrZanebo, Tan anazRau-

rebasac mcires gaZleven. es

aRar ganmeordebao!

vifiqreT, axla gaTenda

CvenTvis, movida kaci, vinc

Cvens Sromas daafasebso.

saakaSvilma im dRes moiara

mTeli televizia, kidiT ki-

demde daaTvaliera yvelaferi,

Cavida televiziis sasadilo-

Si. im xanebSi profkavSirebi

da televiziis xelmZRvanelo-

ba cdilobda da axerxebda,

rom televiziis uxucesi yo-

fili TanamSromlebisTvis

dReSi erTxel ufaso sadili

mierTmia. saakaSvili sasadi-

loSi SemTxveviT waadga Tavs

am ambavs.

pirkatanacemiviT gamobru-

nebula iqidan da zizRnarevi

saxiT uTqvams: moaSoreT aqe-

dan eseni, ra ubedurebaao?!

sasadilodan `ganidevna~

asakovani xalxi, daixura ga-

dacemebi, romlebsac 40 wel-

ze meti xnis adamianebi ake-

Tebdnen. maT magivrad quCidan

moiyvanes viRacebi da reJiso-

robaze pretenzia gamoTqves:

saeWvo donis mxatvrebma, eqi-

mebma, teqnikosma-memontaJeebma.

_ am periods ukavSirebT

qarTuli televiziis trans-

formacias?

_ qarTuli televiziis

ngreva erosi kiwmariSvilis-

gan daiwyo, roca man Seqmna

`rusTavi-2~. kiwmariSvilma

televizia ki ar daaarsa, ara-

med skandalebis da intrige-

bis samsaxuri. es bulvaruli

mediisTvis damaxasiaTebeli

stilia da Tu `rusTavi-2~

ase apirebda muSaobas, I arxs

misTvis ar unda miebaZa. arada,

ase ki moxda.

kiwmariSvilma daasamara

qarTuli televizia.

gaivso telearxebi patara

gogo-biWebiT. naxeT, ucxouri

telelviziebi, Tu arian iq

mcire asakis diqtorebi an

Tundac Jurnalistebi. ymawvi-

lebs mayurebeli arc usmens

da arc ujerebs. mayurebels

miizidavs dinji da damajere-

beli saubari.

Salva ramiSvilisnairebic

unda iyvnen da akademiuri

Jurnalistebic, magram Zalad

gemovnebadaqveiTebul mayure-

bels iaffasiani Souebi mos-

wons dRes, samwuxarod, da

iaffasiani gadacemebic saxe-

zea.

Cvens televiziebSi damk-

vidrda bilwsityvaobis ena da

iseTi adamianebis mowveva ga-

dacemebSi, romlebic xalxs

nervebs uSlis. magaliTad,

TiTqmis yovel dRe Tea TuT-

beriZea televizorSi, xolo

sazogadoebisTvis pativsacem

adamianebs ar aCenen _ asakov-

nebi ariano. ki, magram, tele-

viziaa Tu mklavWidSi an

mZleosnobaSi Sejibreba. wle-

bis win asakovan adamians

ekiTxebodnen _ ra mosazrebis

iyo ama Tu im sakiTxze, axla

ymawvilebs ekiTxebian da imi-

tomacaa kargad rom midis saq-

me.

qarTuli televiziebi

dRes mahautis enaze lapara-

koben. mahauti aris erT-erTi

induri tomi, romelTa Ziri-

Tadi saqmianoba spiloebis

moTvinierebaa. spilos mosaT-

viniereblad 500 sityva yofi-

la sakmarisi, qarTvelebis

`mosaTviniereblad~ amaze nak-

lebi raodenobis sityvebs iye-

neben axali teleJurnaliste-

bi. samwuxaro ambavia, magram

faqtia...

ana vadaWkoria

ratom metyveleben qarTuli televiziebi

mahautis enaze?

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ppaarrllaammeennttiiss TTaavvmmjjddoommaarreess

daviT usufaSvilsssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ppaarrllaammeennttiiss

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mmddggaarr TTiiTTooeeuull ddeeppuuttaattss!!

R i a m i m a r T v a

batono daviT!batono parlamentis wevrebo!viTvaliswinebT ra saqarTvelos konstituciis muxli 5,3-iisa

da muxli 70,1-iis moTxovnebs, uflebamosilni varT SegaxsenoT:

- vinaidan, 2008 w. 5 ianvars saprezidento arCevnebis gamocxa-

debul Sedegebze dayrdnobiT, konstituciis 71-ee muxlis moTxov-

naTa dacviT, m. saakaSvilis mier saqarTvelos prezidentis uf-

lebamosilebis miRebidan - 2008 w. 20 ianvridan aTvliT, kons-

tituciis muxli 70,1-iiT gaTvaliswinebuli 5 wliani vada - 2013

wlis 20 ianvars amoiwura;

- vinaidan, m. saakaSvilisaTvis, saqarTvelos prezidentis Ta-

namdebobaze yofnis uflebamosilebis 5 wliani vadis amowurvas-

Tan dakavSirebiT, arc - m. saakaSvilisa da arc saqarTvelos par-

lamentis mier, dReis mdgomareobiT, aranairi samarTlebrivi aq-

ti ar aris miRebuli;

- vinaidan, 2013 wlis 20 ianvridan aTvliT, m. saakaSvilis

mxridan saqarTvelos prezidentis Tanamdebobaze ukanonod yofnis

TiToeuli dRe adasturebs, rom saxeze gvaqvs m. saakaSvilis

mxridan saqarTvelos konstituciis muxli 5,3-iisa da muxli 70,1-

is darRvevis faqti;

- vinaidan, saqarTvelos konstituciiT: „75-ee muxlis meore

punqtiT gaTvaliswinebul SemTxvevebSi impiCmentis wesiT saqar-

Tvelos prezidentis Tanamdebobidan gadayenebis sakiTxis aRZvris

ufleba aqvs parlamentis sruli Semadgenlobis aranakleb erT me-

sameds...“ (muxli 63,1);

amitom, mogmarTavT winadadebiT raTa saqarTvelos konstitu-

ciis muxli 75,2-iiT gaTvaliswinebuli garemoebis arsebobis gamo,

gamoiyenoT TqvenTvis saqarTvelos konstituciis muxli 63,1-iiT

miniWebuli ufleba, da aRZraT - impiCmentis wesiT saqarTvelos

prezidentis Tanamdebobidan m. saakaSvilis gadayenebis sakiTxi.

samarTlianobis aRdgenis kavSiri xma erisa:

ufalia Cveni simarTle `laskaris~ Tavmjdomre

mixeil (gela) saluaSviliTbilisi, 21 ianvari


mcxeTa-mTianeTis eqs-guber-

natorma cezar CoCelma 200.

000-lariani giraos sanacvlod

ki daixsna Tavi winaswari pa-

timrobidan, magram gamoZieba

grZeldeba da ar aris gamo-

ricxuli cezar CoCels sxva

`codvebic~ gamouCxrikon da

brali kidev ufro daumZimon.

mixeil saakaSvilisgan gansxva-

vebiT, Cven aravis udanaSaulo-

bis prezumfciis darRvevas ar

vapirebT, magram dainteresebul

samsaxurs am `codvebis~ moZie-

ba veWvobT, gauWirdes. yovel

SemTxvevaSi `saerTo gazeTma~

eqsgubernatoris personasTan

dakavSirebiT sakmaod saintere-

so informaciebi moipiva.

CoCelis dakavebisTanave va-

no merabiSvilma gulisamaCuye-

beli gancxadeba gaakeTa, axalma

xelisuflebam is adamiani daa-

kava, romelic omis dros, kon-

fliqtis regionis mosaxleobas

sakuTar saxlSi ifaravda da

mfarvelobda, ufro metic, is

devnilebs finansuradac exmare-

bodao. merabiSvils xalxi aSka-

rad mokle mexsierebis hgonia,

ar dagvviwyebia axalgoris rai-

onis mosaxleobis maSindeli

gancxadebebi, rom CoCels da

axalgoris maJoritar devi

ovaSvils TavianTi qonebisa da

biznesis meti araferi gaxsene-

biaT. ufro metic, baton gu-

bernators arc ki gaufrTxile-

bia adgilobrivi mosaxleoba

mosalodneli safrTxis Sesa-

xeb. av enebs Tu davujerebT

CoCelma rac ki ram Rirebuli

gaaCnda usafrTxo teritoriaze

gamozida, xolo 1500 suli sa-

qoneli xevsureTSi gaxizna, Ta-

vis saxlSi separatistebis mi-

liciis ufrosi Seasaxla, ga-

partaxebisgan rom gadaerCina.

igi mogvianebiT adgilobriv mo-

saxleobas aiZulebda saxlebi

mietovebinaT, miuxedavad imisa,

rom iq sabrZolo moqmedebebi

ar yofila. am yvelafers cxa-

dia, Tavisi miznebi hqonda,

nacxelisuflebas axalgorida-

nac Wirdeboda devnilebi, rom

saerTaSoriso organizaciebis

daxmarebiT, rac SeiZleba meti

dafinanseba mieRoT. gavrcele-

buli xmebis Tanaxmad es Tanxa

korufciuli sqemis saSuale-

biT merabiSvili-CoCelis

wyvilma aiTvisa. merabiSvilis

Tavgamodebac CoCelis dasaca-

vad vfiqrobT, am `partnioro-

bas~ ukavSirdeba.

axla ki im informaciebis

Sesaxeb, romelic `saerTo ga-

zeTma~ CoCelTan dakavSirebiT

moiZia. cezar CoCels haeriviT

sWirdeba keTili da mzrunveli

gubernatoris imiji. rogorc

`saerTo gazeTs~ kargad infor-

mirebulma wyarom ganucxada,

CoCelma Suamavali miugzavna

yofili patimris, mcxeTis sa-

aRsrulebo samsaxuris TanamS-

romlis nino xizaniSvilis de-

das, me xom dagexmareT Tqveni

Svilis gaTavisuflebaSi, axla

jeri Tqvenzea, Jurnalistebs

gamogigzavniT da maT mieciT in-

terviu Cemi kaikacobis Sesaxe-

bo. 24 wlis nino xizaniSvili

absurduli braldebiT, TiTqos

man qrTami aiRo, daakava mTavar-

ma prokuraturam 2011 wlis

zafxulSi. mas pirdebodnen,

rom Tu Tavisi uSualo ufro-

sis da saaRsrulebo biuros

xelmZRvanelis (nikanor melia)

winaaRmdeg miscemda Cvenebas,

dauyovnebliv gaaTavisuflebd-

nen, magram xizaniSvilma kate-

goriuli uari ganacxada. ga-

nawyenebulma prokuraturam

urCi èWvmitanili~ mkacrad

dasaja da misTvis rvaweliwad-

naxevriani patimroba moiTxova,

rac saakaSvilis jibis sasamar-

Tlom dauyovnebliv daudastu-

ra. xizaniSvili gasuli wlis

28 agvistos prezidentma Se-

iwyala, Tumca rom ara oqtom-

bris arCevnebi, saeWvoa saakaS-

vils aseTi gulmowyaleba gamo-

eCina. CoCels, misive TqmiT,

Turme sul ar gasWirvebia uda-

naSaulo adamianis gaTavisuf-

leba. Tu aseTi advili iyo mis-

Tvis es yvelaferi, maSin weli-

wadze meti ras elodeboda, mis

gareSe regionSi araferi xde-

boda, isic damnaSavea xizaniSvi-

lis daWeraSi (merabiSvilis,

adeiSvilis da CoCelis gareSe

aravis akavebdnen), axla ki

mxardaWeras iTxovso. es `tro-

ika~ axalgorSi avtomanqanis

kapotze gaSlil sufraze qei-

fobda da iq wyvetda qveynis

beds. cxenebiT, kvadrociklebiT

da vertmfrenebiT dadiodnen

qsnis xeobaSi saqeifod da sana-

dirod, iq specialurad kote-

jebic hqondaT aSenebuli, Tava-

debis gancxroma amaT Rreobas-

Tan, monagoniao.

ra fuli iSoves merabiS-

vilma da CoCelma devnilebis

xarjze, amis Sesaxeb presaSi

ukve daiwera, magram aq erTi

sagulisxmo detalia,

werovanis miwebi,sadac devnilTa geto-ebi aSenda, am wyvilmaagvistos omamde cotaxniT adre, TiTqmismuqTad SeiZina (erTikvadratuli metri 10TeTrad), omis Semdegki asmag fasad mihyidasaxelmwifos. gamod-is, saakaSvilis xeli-sufleba winaswar ge-gmavda cxinvalze dar-tymas da samaCablosteritoriidan devni-lebis nakadsac elo-da, razec didi fulisSovnas SeZlebdnen.

CoCeli Tu vinmes exmarebo-

da, eseni mxolod misi axlob-

lebi da mis mier marTuli e.w.

zonderebi ariano. sando wya-

ros cnobiT, axalgorel e.w.

devnilTa umetesoba arc cxov-

robs werovanisa da wilknis

devnilTa CasaxlebebSi, isini

ZiriTadad axalgorSi arian,

CoCelis axloblebs maTTvis

gankuTvnili kotejebi gaqirave-

buli aqvT, axla roca ukve da-

ukanones, yidiano.

devnilebs es kotejebi ki

gadasces, magram daukanonebeli

iyo da privatizaciis ufleba-

sac ar aZlevdnen. arCevnebi rom

moaxlovda, maT uTxres Semoi-

taneT larnaxevari da daikano-

neTo, maTac daikanones, magram

gasxvisebis uflebis gareSe.

arCevnebis win saakaSvils maTT-

vis uTqvams, oRond me momeciT

xma da gasxvisebis uflebas

mogcemTo. devnilTa nawili na-

cionalebis mxardamWeri iyo,

nawili `qarTuli ocnebis~, ami-

tom cxadia, saakaSvils maTi

gulis mogeba sWirdeboda. naci-

onalebma arCevnebi rom waages,

gasxvisebis uflebis sakiTxi

haerSi gamoekida, magram biZina

ivaniSvilis xelisuflebaSi

mosvlis Semdeg, devnilebs es

kotejebi gasxvisebis uflebiT

daukanones da ukve yidian. wya-

ros TqmiT, keTilmowyobili,

miwis da garaJis mqone kotejis

yidva 10.000 dolaradaa SesaZ-

lebeli. nacionalebis mxardam-

Weri devnilebi garkveuli pri-

vilegiebiT sargeblobdnen, vi-

sac maRaziebi hqonda, maT saka-

so aparatebs ar sTxovdnen, sa-

erTod ar begravdneno.

rogorc SevityveT,devnilTa Casaxlebeb-Si uamravi zondericxovrobs, maT calkeoTaxebi hqondaT gamo-

yofili, dadiodnen eswiTelmaisuriani da-kunTuli biWebi, `qar-Tuli ocnebis~ aqcie-bis darbeva Tu iyo sa-Wiro, maT RamiT ucebSekrebdnen da dasar-bevad miyavdaT.

TiToeul maTgans xelfasis

saxiT 400 lars uxdidnen,

darbevebis dros ki erTi amdens

umatebdnen. karaleTSi kaxi ka-

laZis mosaxleobasTan Sexved-

risas momxdar incidentSi, we-

rovnidan wayvanili zonderebi

monawileobdneno. es jgufi

Turme àrasaimedo~ xalxs qu-

CebSi itacebda da mcxeTis po-

liciaSi mihyavda. am yvelafers

gubernatori CoCeli xelmZRva-

nelobdao.

werovanSi mcxovrebi zonde-

rebi `saxalxo krebaSi~ da

`qarTul ocnebaSic~ hyoliaT

Canergili. erTi aseTi zonderi,

nino burjanaZis partiaSia, is

gorelia, magram am dasaxlebaSi

cxovrobs, `qarTuli ocnebis~

mier kikviZis parkSi mowyobil

mitingzec vnaxeT, mcxeTaSic

xSirad vxedavT, maT Soris gam-

geobasTanac, yuradRebas aravin

aqcevs, arada uamrav darbevaSi

monawileobda. aseTi adamiani

werovanis `getoSi~ bevria, mag-

ram axalma xelisuflebam maT-

Tvis jer ver moicalao.

merabiSvilisa da CoCelis

tandemma devnilebTan dakavSi-

rebiT marto werovanis miwebiT

ki ara sxva mxrivac isargebla.

maTi saziaro kompania `niu

enerji~ yvela msxvili saxelm-

wifo dakveTis Semsrulebeli

iyo, maT Soris devnilTa kote-

jebis mSeneblobisac. am kompa-

niasTan dakavSirebiT erTi Zal-

ze saintereso informaciac Se-

vityveT. kompaniis mesveurebi

Turme TveobiT amuSavebdnen mu-

Sebs, magram xelfass ar uxdid-

nen. Semdeg am xalxs samsaxuri-

dan gayridnen da axal partia

muSaxels Rebulobdnen, mere

maTac aseve muqTad amuSavebdnen

da ramdenime TveSi amaTac gay-

ridnen. faqtiurad monebad

hyavdaT muSebi gadaqceuli.

davubrundeT isev devnilTa

kotejebis Temas. am mSenebloba-

Si `niu enerjis~ garda CoCe-

lis kuTvnili betonis qarxana

`luqsori~ da kompania `niu

plastic~ yofila CarTuli,

romelic xsenebuli kotejebis-

Tvis sxvadasxva zomis milebsa

da saxuravebs amzadebda. wero-

vanSi erT-erTi dawesebulebis

teritoriaze CoCels sakuTari

avejis asawyobi saamqros sawyo-

bic hqonia, romelic axlaxan

dauluqavs finansur policias.

rogorc Cans CoCeli devnilebs

avejiTac amaragebda, anu mas da

merabiSvils sruli monopolia

hqondaT am segmentze.

rogor àaxia~ Co-Celma 150 heqtari sax-nav-saTesi miwa qsov-riselebs es kidevcalke saubris Temaa.es miwebi man igive fa-sad Caigdo xelSi, ro-gorc werovanis miwe-bi, magram ra Tqma un-da Tavis Tavze ar ga-dauformebia, qaRald-ze am miwebis mflobe-lebi axalgoreli in-ga xuciSvili da Teimu-raz bazuaSvili arian.

erT-erT biznesmens, rome-

lic am teritoriaze 70 heq-

tar miwas amuSavebda, marcvle-

uli mohyavda da xalxic dasaq-

mebuli hyavda, plius amas mi-

wis mflobelebsac ijaris ga-

dasaxads uxdida, viRac TaR-

liTi miugzavnes. man 23.000

laris Rirebulebis xorbali

iyida `posleze~ da fuli aRar

gadaixada. am pirovnebam TaR-

liT myidvels prokuraturaSi

uCivla, sisxlis samarTlis

saqme ki aRiZra, Tumca amas Se-

degi ar mohyolia. piriqiT, es

adamiani gaafrTxiles, Tavi da-

anebe Civils, Torem uares usi-

amovnebaSi gaexvevi, radgan es

yvelaferi zemodan modiso.

qsovriselebs es miwebi 2006

wels waarTves, magram 2008

wlamde CoCels maTi damuSave-

biT Tavi ar Seuwuxebia. sapar-

lamento arCevnebis Semdeg, ro-

ca nacionalebma poziciebi ga-

imyares, maSin CoCelma simindi

daTesa, daiqirava adgilobrive-

bi, magram isinic gadagdo, mo-

savali ar movida, vizaraleo

da fuli ar gadauxada. muqTad

undoda am miwidan kargi mosav-

lis miReba da didi fulis

Sovna, es rom ar gamouvida,

aRar daumuSavebia, mdidar

klients eloda, rom muqTad

xelSi Cagdebuli miwa, sarfia-

nad gaeyidao.

cezar CoCelma Tavis droze

biznesi ludis warmoebiT da-

iwyo, luds Turme aryis qvabSi

xarSavda da TviTonve amarageb-

da Zveli e.w butka `moskviCiT~

maRaziebs. ludi `lomisis~ pa-

ralelurad Turme igi falsi-

ficirebul araysac awarmoebda.

2002 wels mcxeTa-mTianeTis

samxareo policiam dauluqa sa-

warmo CoCels da daWerasac

upirebdnen, magram keTili ada-

mianebis SemweobiT gadaurCa gi-

sosebSi gamoketvas. samagierod,

nacionalebis frTebqveS Seyu-

Julma, gagubernatorebulma Co-

Celma Tavis gadamrCenebs amagi

imiT daufasa, rom gaakotra da

daWerasac ki upirebda.

manana suxiSvili(gagrZeleba iqneba)

kriminali

mcxeTurad


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respublikis konstituciis

Tanaxmad, sakmarisia imisTvis,

rom Semdegi arCevnebi gaimar-

Tos; magram jer kidev 2010

wels parlamentma Seitana

cvlileba da arCevnebi mimdina-

re wlis oqtomberSi daniSna.

amgvarad, saakaSvilis mmarTve-

lobac faqtobrivad TiTqmis

eqvs wlamde gagrZelda.

TbilisSi masobrivi sapro-

testo aqciis organizatori

koalicia èrToba~ iyo. swored

am koaliciis aqtivistebi agro-

vebdnen xelmowerebs saakaSvi-

lis gadadgomis moTxovnis Se-

saxeb. mitingze iTqva, rom ori

Tvis ganmavlobaSi milionze me-

ti xelmoweraa Segrovebuli.

ras niSnavs milioni saqarT-

velosTvis, romlis mosaxleo-

bis saerTo raodenobaa 4,5 mi-

lioni. maTgan saarCevno xmis

ufleba 3,5 milionze met adami-

ans gaaCnia. ese igi, saakaSvilis

mimarT ultimatums xeli eleq-

toratis mesamedma moawera.

saakaSvils saqmis amgvari

garemoeba maincdamainc ar gahk-

virvebia. saqarTveloSi para-

doqsuli viTarebaa, roca moqme-

di prezidenti, arcTu usafuZv-

lod, Tavis Tavs opozicias

akuTvnebs.

saakaSvilma prezidentoba

meore vadiT 2008 wels daika-

va. maSindel arCevnebs win usw-

rebda mravalaTasiani saprotes-

to aqciebi. demonstrantTa

darbevis Semdeg qveynis mmarTve-

li daTanxmda vadamdel arCev-

nebs da damajereblad gaimarj-

va. yovel SemTxvevaSi, cifrebiT

_ Tavis konkurent levan gaCe-

CilaZeze orjer meti xma miiRo.

gaCeCilaZem amomrCevelTa xmebis

mxolod 25 procenti miiRo,

badri patarkaciSvils ki mxo-

lod Svidi procenti ergo.

saakaSvilma SeinarCuna sap-

rezidento savarZeli. simarTle

iTqvas, es savarZeli sakmaod

Seryeulia. qveynis parlamentma

miiRo kanoni, romlis Tanaxma-

dac mmarTvelobis Sereuli

forma daadgines. prezidentis

uflebamosilebebis mniSvnelo-

vani nawili sakanonmdeblo or-

ganosa da mTavrobas gadaeca.

2012 wlis 1-l oqtombers

saparlamento arCevnebSi saakaS-

vilis partia koalicia ̀ qarTul

ocneba _ demokratiul saqarTve-

losTan~ damarcxda. blokma, ro-

melsac miliarderi biZina iva-

niSvili edga saTaveSi, sakanonm-

deblo organoSi 85 adgili mii-

Ro, anu mmarTvel partiaze oci

adgiliT meti. ivaniSvili prei-

er-ministri gaxda da mas Semdeg

qveyanaSi, faqtobrivad, orxeli-

suflebianoba damyarda.

saintereso detali:

mas Semdeg, rac sabWoTa

kavSiri daiSala, saqar-

TveloSi xelisufleba

konstituciuri gziT

ar Secvlila. respub-

likis pirveli prezi-

denti zviad gamsaxur-

dia samxedro sabWom

1992 wels Camoagdo.

aTi wlis Semdeg, mis

memkvidres eduard Se-

vardnaZes egreT wode-

bulma `vardebis revo-

luciam~ daatovebina

Tanamdeboba. axla ki

aralegitimurobis moCveneba mi-

xeil saakaSvilis Tavzec tria-

lebs.

riT dagvamaxsovrda misi

mmarTveloba? magaliTad, dana-

SaulTan brZoliT _ swored am

mimarTulebas miiCnevda igi Ta-

visi politikis prioritetad.

garkveul Sedegebsac miaRwia:

2005 wlidan danaSaulma iklo

_ 43 aTasidan 32 aTasamde Sem-

cirda. magram ris fasad?

es kadrebi saparlamento ar-

Cevnebamde cota xniT adre uC-

venes, rasac namdvili skandali

mohyva: moqmedeba xdeba Tbili-

sis me-8 sapyrobileSi, badrage-

bi scemen patimrebs... qveyanaSi

mravalaTasiani saprotesto aq-

ciebi gaimarTa, Tanamdebobebi

dakarges Sinagan saqmeTa da sas-

jelaRsrulebis ministrebma.

gamoZieba dResac grZeldeba.

SarSan, dekemberSi daiwyo

saqarTvelos istoriaSi yvela-

ze masStaburi amnistia. cixeebi

datova sami aTasamde patimarma.

bevri maTgani prezidentis sawi-

naaRmdego aqciebSi monawile-

obs.

saakaSvilma ruseTs Tavi am

qveynebs Soris urTierTobis

mkveTri gauaresebiT daamaxsov-

ra: 2006-Si _ qarTuli Rvino

aikrZala, Semdgom `borjomsac~

igive daemarTa. apogea aRmoCnda

2008 wlis agvisto, roca sa-

qarTvelom samxreT oseTSi omi

daiwyo.

saakaSvilis mowinaaRmdegee-

bi prezidents aTdRian vadas aZ-

levdnen uflebamosilebebis ga-

dasabareblad. winaaRmdeg SemTx-

vevaSi, yovelmxriv Seecdebod-

nen, rom `muSaobaSi xeli Seu-

Salon~.

kviris bolos saakaSvili

parlamentis winaSe bolo sap-

rezidento gamosvliT wardgeba.

es iqneba misi erT-erTi yvelaze

rTuli gamocda, radgan mas Cve-

uli misi momxre umravlesobis

_ `morCili parlamentarebis~

nacvlad, sul sxva garemo dax-

vdeba. miva ki igi misTvis opo-

ziciur parlamentSi saerTod

da Tu am nabijs gadadgams, ga-

uZlebs ki am gamocdas?

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qarTuli Rvino, mineraluri wyali `bor-

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saZloa, rusul bazarze gazafxulzeve dab-

rundes _ aseTia ruseTis mTavari sanitari-

uli eqimis genadi oniSCenkos prognozi. qar-

Tuli Rvino rusul bazarze albaT `molda-

vuri scenariT~ dabrundeba. importiorTa Se-

fasebiT, qarTvel meRvineebs SeeZlebaT rusu-

li bazris 2-33 procenti daikavon (akrZal-

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oniSCenkos TqmiT, `ruseTis bazarze qar-

Tuli Rvinisa da mineraluri wylis dabru-

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molaparakebebis pirveli raundi warmatebiT

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denime sabaJo-gamSvebi punqti, romelTa meS-

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loes momavalSi dazustdeba~, _ ganmartavs

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laze swrafad, Tebervlis bolomde, minera-

luri wyali `borjomi~ dabrundeba.

IDS Borjomi Internatoinal-is warmomadgen-lebi vrcel komentarze uars amboben da mxo-

lod imas acxadeben, rom `ruseTis mosaxle-

oba `borjomis~ ganaxlebul brends ixilavs.

akrZalvamde `borjomis~ wili rusul ba-

zarze, 2005 wlis monacemebiT, 10 procent-

ze odnav meti iyo. imave wlis statistikiT,

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vcdilobT urTierTobis damyare-

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noT Cveni teritoriebi. arafris

fasad ar vityviT uars saqarTve-

los teritoriul mTlianoba-

ze~, _ ganacxada ivaniSvilma.

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arc momavalSi apirebs maT aRia-

rebas.

vz.ru

moamzada g. WavWavaZem.

genadi oniSCenko saqarTvelos `sacobs aZrobs~

biZina biZina ivaniSvili: ivaniSvili:

unda davibrunoT afxazeTi da samxreT oseTi


iyo dro, ukanalis gasxviseba das-

jadi iyo. mogvianebiT, raRac ucnau-

ri egidiT moxda Sesabamisi muxlis

amoReba sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsi-

dan, aqaoda demokratiuli qveynis Se-

neba gadavwyviteT da demokratiuli

Rirebulebebi unda gaviTavisoTo,

upirvelesad is muxlebi amoiRes, sa-

dac mamaTmavlobaze, aqtiur da pasi-

ur pederastiaze iyo saubari. ukacra-

vad, magram maxinji demokratiis Sene-

ba gadataniTi Tu pirdapiri mniSvne-

lobiT ukanalis gasxvisebiT rom da-

iwyes, amitomac ukavia axla xelSi

baton kbilaSvils 80-mde firi, sadac

cnobad mamakacTa Soris seqsualuri

aqtia gadaRebuli da es mxolod is

raodenobaa, rac xelSi CauvardaT,

ramdenic ar gamJRavnebula?

is, rom yvela qveynis yvela cixe-

Si Cveulebrivi movlena iyo da aris

`qaTmebis~ yofna, aravisTvisaa ucxo;

arc is, rom yvela `qaTami~ cixeSi

moxvedramde `qaTami~ ar iyo, cixeSi

`gaapetuxes~, magram amisTvis uqalod

myofi seqsualurad aqtiuri asakis

mqone damnaSaveTa samyaro `zrunavda~,

e.w xelovnur gamoxSirvas awarmoebda

da bevrad naklebad, magram zogjer

amgvari davaleba cixis administraci-

idan eZleodaT kidec, Tumca davale-

bas asrulebda e.w `Sekruli~, (gne-

bavT, `gabozebuli~) mamaTmavali pa-

timari, magram ara cixis momsaxure

personali da kidev ufro zemdgome-

bi...

sabWoTa cixis e.w `TamaSebis~ Ca-

monaTvalSia, Torem ra `TamaSicaa~,

advili misaxvedria, `cmacuni~. am

dros `msxverpls~ auxveven Tvalebs

da aiZuleben moZebnos garkveuli niv-

Ti, an sxva ram, Zebnis dros ki erTi

maTgani an ramdenimec, saxesTan miu-

tans sxeulis garkveul nawils. acma-

cundeba Tu ara Tvalaxveuli, es mis

instinqtzea, mTavaria, kamera mxiaru-

lobs, tipi `gapetuxebulia.~

mxedvelobis Semowmeba arasrulw-

lovanebSi _ axalbedas sTavazoben

Tavze waifaros pijaki an e.w `buSla-

ta,~ gaaCnia ra acvia da, misi mili-

viT gaSverili saxelodan gamomzi-

ralma daasaxelos is nivTebi, rasac

uCveneben. moulodnelad sasqeso or-

ganos aCveneben. daasaxelebs rac aris

_ moxvdeba TvalSi, ar daasaxelebs _

wagebulia. garda amisa, iq `Semowme-

bas~ mravalgvari saxesxvaoba aqvs,

rac `gapetuxebis~ umartivesi gzaa.

iyo Zaladobrivi `gapetuxebac~,

rac kriminaluri samyaros mxridan

dasjis meTods warmoadgenda, da up-

irvelesad exeboda patimars, rome-

lic swored amoraluri saqcielis

Cadenis gamo moxvda cixeSi (aras-

rulwlovanis gaupatiureba, qaliSvi-

lis, Zalismieri meTodiT gaupatiur-

eba, sisxliT naTesavis, bavSvTan ne-

bismieri garyvnili qmedeba, amasTana-

ve, amgvari `saqmis mimcemi~) an ad-

gilze `fuflos~ dasja, Tumca, am

SemTxvevaSi, mogebulis gadasawyveti

iyo, ra saxiT miiRebda `Tavans~.

erT-erT interviuSi sabWoTa xe-

lisuflebis mier da dRemde recidi-

vistad cnobilma respondentma miTx-

ra: zogi `qaTami~, vinc `qurduli

mastis~ piradi `qali~ ar iyo, iseT

dReSic Cavardnila, eqims exveweboda,

erTi-ori dRe rame miSvele, ver

vjdebio da Tu eqimi qali iyo, guli-

anad kiskisebda da `sanCastSi~ dawve-

naze exmarebodao~.

axla im sabWoTa cixis sazomebiT

rom mivudgeT, wina mTavrobis imdeni

maRalaCinosani

g a x d e b o d a

` s a n C a stS i ~

dasawveni, ra

CamoTvlis...

mainc sai-

dan da ram ga-

uCina konkre-

tul mamakacTa

jgufs amgvari

a v adm yofuri

ltolva Tavi-

sive sqesisad-

mi, sakuTarma

sqesobrivma uZlurebam? iqneb, adre-

ul asakSi warmoebulma garyvnilma

qmedebebma? an iqneb, sulac iman, rom

axalgazrdobaSi mizezTa gamo Zlieri

Tanatolebisgan daCrdilulebs qvec-

nobierSi CaujdaT yvela im mamakacis

daCagvris survili, romelic mamaka-

curi Rirsebis matarebeli iqneboda?

_ ucbad zurab adeiSvili gamax-

senda, romelTan mimarTebaSic kiTxva

daisva, iciT, ratom gamoapara mSob-

liuri soflidan sasuliero pirma,

rom ar CaeqolaTo? da iqve misive Ta-

nakurselis gaxmaurebuli naTqvami

`rom daviTvaleT, 24 kurseli dagvi-

Wira~... aqve saakaSvilic gamaxsenda,

`greCixas~ imdroindeli mogoneba, mi-

si saarCevno Stabis ufrosi rom iyo,

ratom yofila `kroliki~ da isic,

rogor abuCad igdebdnen mozard ena-

tania saakaSvils Tanatolebi...

kidev erTi ambavi gamaxsenda, rac

wlebis win quTaisis cixeSi moxda,

romelic aseve respondentma miambo.

cixis beber `elitarul qaTams~

axalgazrda `momavali~ miadga, dRes-

xval qurdi rom unda gaxdes, da be-

beri ekiTxeba: qalTan namyofi xaro?

Sens saqmes mixedeo. me ki mivxedav,

xo ici, ar gawyenineb, magram Tu qal-

Tan namyofi ar xar, jer CemTan nu

moxvalo. ar mousmina. ar mousmina

da...

kameraSi qurdebs TviTon waaswre-

bina inJinerma kacma iZulebiT `minet-

ze~... karoCe, raRacas rom magrad eCa-

liCebi, Seuqcevadi procesi iwyeba.

ai, `ZaRlebze~ getyvi, _ magari `ZaR-

li~ rom aris, droTa ganmavlobaSi

simpaTia uCndeba `Zveli biWebis~ mi-

marT, egrea yvelaferze... edi ot amo

_ liubliu _ ne naviJu...~ ori nabi-

jia erTmaneTisgan, meti ara...~

erT mTlianobaSi romaviRoT calkeuli niuansi,gamova, rom yovelgvar uka-nonobasa da qurdul samya-rosTan brZolis egidiTmosuli saakaSvilis e.wgundi pirdapir da elvise-buri siswrafiT daeqvemde-bara Seuqcevad process, ab-soluturad zustad dapirwmindad gaiTavisa yve-la mankieri mxare, misTvisviTomda miuRebeli qurdu-li samyarosi.

sxva sakiTxia, ratom iTrevs fexs

samarTlianobis aRdgenis saxeliT mo-

suli axali xelisufleba swored sa-

marTlianobis aRsadgenad, magram faq-

ti saxezea, sisxlis samarTlis ko-

deqsSi, savaraudod, ar darCa muxli,

romelic wina xelisuflebis mmarTve-

li gundis wevrebs ar miesadagebo-

deT, upirvelesad ki, swored im pun-

qtebSi, sadac garkveviTaa gamokveTi-

li qurduli samyaros qmedeba (ara

mentaliteti).

sabWouri warmoSobis`kanonieri qurdis~ insti-tutTan mebrZoli `naciona-luri moZraoba~ TviTongaxda axali yaidis `kanoni-eri qurdi~, oRond, im gan-

saxvavebiT, rom Tu misi su-lieri da ideologiuri wi-naprebi samoqmedod da sa-asparezod mxolod cixessjerdebodnen, `nacmoZrao-bam~ mTeli qveyana gadaake-Ta cixed da qurduli `sa-damsjelo-aRmzrdelobiTmeTodologias~ politiku-ri oponentebisa Tu poli-tikuri procesebis marT-vis mTavar iaraRad aqcia.

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mmaa.. CCvveenn ggvvssuurrss aaddeekkvvaattuurraadd mmoovviiqqcceeTT ddaa

kkiiddeevv eerrTTii:: wwaaggeebbuullii aarrCCeevvnneebbii.. mmee vvTTvvllii,,

rroomm yyvveellaa CCvveennggaannss aaqqvvss vvaallddeebbuulleebbaa qqaarr-

TTuullii ssaazzooggaaddooeebbiiss wwiinnaaSSee,, rroomm vvaallii mmoo-

vviixxaaddooTT.. ZZaalliiaann mmZZiimmee iiyyoo CCvveennTTvviiss aarrCCeevv-

nneebbSSii ddaammaarrccxxeebbaa..

mmee yyvveellggaann vvaammbboobb,, mmeeggoobbrreebbSSiicc ddaa

bbeevvrr eeTTeerrSSiicc mmiiTTqqvvaammss:: mmee mmrrccxxvveenniiaa,, rroomm

CCeemmii qqaallaaqqiiss mmaaJJoorriittaarrii ddaa CCeemmii qqaallaaqqiiss

ssaaxxee aarriiss rroollaanndd aaxxaallaaiiaa..

......aarraassooddeess aarr ggaaddaavvaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbaa

zzRRvvaarriiddaann...... xxaallxxmmaa xxmmaa aammooiiRRoo,, iimm xxaallxx-

mmaa,, rroommlleebbiicc iiyyvvnneenn yyoovveellTTvviiss aavvaannggaarrdd-

SSii pprroocceesseebbiiss.. aaii,, eess mmookkllaa ssaaaakkaaSSvviillmmaa

ssaammeeggrreellooSSii.. aammiiss mmooTTmmeennaa mmiixxeeiill ssaaaakkaaSS-

vviilliissaaddmmii aarr SSeeiiZZlleebbaa..

`̀ddaaiiccaavvii ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss~~

ssaammeeggrreellooss oorrggaanniizzaacciiiiss

wwaarrmmoommaaddggeenneellii kaxa miqaiaTV-9


qalbatono Tea, gulisyuriT wavikiTxe Tqveni in-

terviu, romelic 2012 wlis gazeTi àsaval-dasava-

lis~ erT-erT bolo nomerSi (24-30 dekemberi,

#52) daibeWda. interviuSi korespondenti e.w. xuT-

jvriani droSis Sesaxeb gekiTxebaT da gTxovT, amis

Taobaze sakuTari Tvalsazrisi gaacxadoT. Tqveni pa-

suxidan vgebulobT, rom e.w. xuTjvrian droSas qar-

Tul, erovnul droSad aRiqvamT, romelic saakaS-

vilma miiTvisa da partiul droSad aqcia, ris ga-

moc adre am droSas nacmoZraobis partiul droSad

miiCnevdiT, magram Tqveni damokidebuleba mas Semdeg

Secvlila, rac ùcnobs~ (batoni gia gaCeCilaZe) igi

sakanSi #5 Tan hqonda. amis Semdgom Tqven mixved-

rilxarT, rom `Tu protestis matarebel adamians

aqvs es droSa, yvelaferi ar aris dakarguli da Se-

saZlebelia, es droSa yvelasi gaxdes~. bolos das-

ZenT: `xuTjvriani droSa ar aris saakaSvilis mogo-

nili, iseve, rogorc qarTveli ar aris saakaSvilis

mogonili! saakaSvilma droSa ki ara, samSoblo wa-

marTva da me ar vapireb, samSobloze da droSaze

uari vTqva... es droSa Cven unda davibrunoT qarT-

vel sazogadoebasTan erTad da mas pativi unda

vceT~.

sanam mTavar saTqmels vityode e.w. xuTjvriani

droSis raobis Sesaxeb (egreT wodebuls imitom

vambob, rom xuTjvriani ewodeba iseT droSas, ro-

melzec xuTi Tanabari zomis jvaria gamosaxuli,

romelTagan centraluri qristes aRniSnavs, danar-

Ceni oTxi ki _ 4 saxarebas. xolo am droSaze er-

Ti didi da oTxi momcro zomis jvriT simbolurad

jvarze gakruli qriste da oTxi samsWvalia miniS-

nebuli), unda gauwyoT, qalbatono Tea, rom SeuZ-

lebelia Tqveni sityvebi imis Taobaze, Tu rogor ar

apirebT SeeguoT faqts, rom saakaSvilma samSoblo

wagarTvaT, mamulis moyvarul adamians gulze sal-

bunad ar daedos, radganac ra xania, Cven moklebul-

ni varT iseT saxelmwifo moxeleebsa Tu sajaro pi-

rebs, romelTaTvisac samSoblo saTayvanebelia da

maT gacnobierebuli aqvT, rom sazogado moRvawis

upirvelesi movaleoba samSoblos da mSobeli eris

msaxurebaa. 1992 wlis putCis Semdgom, erovnuli

xelisuf-lebisgan gansxvavebiT, ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss mmTTaavv-

rroobbaaSSii iisseeTTii ppoolliittiikkoosseebbii mmoommrraavvllddnneenn,, rroommeellnniicc

aarraaTTuu zzrruunnaavvddnneenn ssaammSSoobblloossTTvviiss,, aarraammeedd TTvviiTT aamm

ssiittyyvviiss wwaarrmmooTTqqmmaassaacc kkii eerriiddeebbooddnneenn ddaa mmiissii xxsseennee-

bbaa eeTTaakkiilleebbooddaaTT.. aammiittoomm kkiiddeevv eerrTTxxeell vviimmeeoorreebb,, gguu-

llii aaggiiCCuuyyddeebbaa ssiiaammiissggaann,, rrooddeessaacc TTqqvveennss ssiittyyvveebbss

mmooiissmmeenn,, rroomm aarr SSeeeegguueebbiiTT ssaaaakkaaSSvviilliiss mmiieerr wwaarrTTmmee-

uullii ssaammSSoobblloossaa ddaa eerroovvnnuullii ddrrooSSiiss ddaakkaarrggvvaass..

ooRRoonnddaacc ssaakkiiTTxxaavviiaa,, aarriiss kkii ee..ww.. xxuuTTjjvvrriiaannii ddrrooSSaa

qqaarrTTvveellTTaa ssaaeerroo ssiimmbboolloo??!!

interviuSi Tqven e.w. xuTjvriani droSis `qar-

Tulobis~ argumentad televiziiT naCveneb, ùcno-

bis~ protestis gamomxatvel proeqts asaxelebT,

ramac gafiqrebinaT, rom es droSa xalxisTvis je-

rac ar iyo dakarguli. magram es aris Tqveni mosaz-

reba da survili, romliTac am droSis qarTuli

warmomavloba ver damtkicdeba. sakiTxis garkvevas

istoriuli simarTle waadgeba, miT umetes Cven Sem-

TxvevaSi, roca Sua saukuneebis saero droSa dakar-

gulad miiCneva. istoriuli sinamdvile ki Sesabamis

wyaroTa monacemebiT da sabuTebiT unda warmoCindes.

ra viTarebaa am mxriv, ras ubnoben werilobiTi wya-

roebi da ras gvauwyeben sxva saxis dokumentebi?

mkvlevarTaTvis cnobili yvela wyaro, romleb-

Sic qarTvelTa saero da sxva droSebis amsaxveli

cnobebia daculi, calsaxad cxadyofen, rom Sua sa-

ukuneebis samefo droSaze, igive sefe droSaze ga-

mosaxuli iyo wminda giorgi. cnobilia, rom dro-

Sis tilo iyo mewamuli feris da Suaguli TeTri

abreSumisa hqonda, romelzedac oqromkediT amoqar-

guli iyo wmindanis xati. wminda giorgis gamosaxu-

leba qarTul samefo droSaze Cvens xelT arsebuli

cxra istoriuli wyaroTi dasturdeba, romelTa av-

torebs Soris droSis TviTmxilvelebic arian. am

mematianeTagan 7 evropelia, ori ki _ qarTveli. ese-

ni gaxlavan: 1. rudolf fon zuhemi (XIV s.), 2.

iohan hildeshaimi (XIV s.), 3. qvemoraineli anonimi

(XIV s.), 4. iohan fon kotovikusi (XVI s.), 5. Jan

teno (XVII s.), 6. emidio darteli d’askoli (XVII

s.), 7. frans ferdinand troiloeli (XVIII s.), 8.

timoTe gabaSvili (XVIII s.), 9. Teimuraz bagrati-

oni (XIX s.), romelic gvauwyebs, rom wminda ninos

dauwesebia Cvens samefo droSaze wminda giorgis sa-

xebis aRbeWdva. aq naxsenebi ucxoeli avtorebis

TxzulebebSi aRniSnulia, rom: `qarTvelebs TavianT

droSebze aqvT wminda giorgis gamosaxuleba~, ìsi-

ni TavianT qveyanaSi wminda giorgis droSiT dadi-

an~, `jorjianis mebrZol mosaxleobas droSebze

wminda giorgis gamosaxuleba aqvT~, `qarTvelebi

wminda giorgis droSebiT ibrZvian~, `qarTvelebs yo-

vel droSaze aqvT wminda giorgis gamosaxuleba~ da

`qarTvelebs samxedro droSebze daxatuli wminda

giorgis saxe yovelTvis daaqvT~. qalbatono Tea,

Tqveni yuradReba msurs mivapyro am avtorebTan da-

mowmebul sityvebs: `droSebze, samxedro droSebze,

yovel droSaze~. e.i. yvelani erTxmad SeniSnaven,

rom qarTvelebs wminda giorgis gamosaxulebiT ara

mxolod samefo, aramed sxvadasxva saxis droSebic

hqoniaT. es arcaa gasakviri, radganac Teimuraz bag-

rationis TqmiT, saqarTveloSi wminda giorgis gamo-

saxulebiani sefe droSis darad, rogorc wesi, sa-

batoniSvilo, sasardlo, saerisTavo, samouravo da

misT. droSebi iqmneboda. amgvarad, ucxoel avtorebs

yuradRebis miRma ar darCeniaT is faqti, rom wmin-

da giorgis xati qarTvelebs `yovel droSaze~ hqon-

daT gamosaxuli.

rac Seexeba e.w. xuTjvriani droSis raobas da

imas, Tu ratom gaaigives igi mcdarad qarTvelTa sa-

ero droSasTan. Sua saukuneebSi dasavleT-evropeli

mogzaurebisTvis iqmneboda portulanebi _ sazRvao

rukebi. am portulanebze e.w. xuTjvriani droSiT im

geografiul punqtebs aRniSnavdnen, sadac kaTolike-

Ta samisionero centrebi iyo ganlagebuli. magali-

TisTvis SegviZlia davasaxeloT qalaqebi kunZul

kviprosze, yirimis naxevarkunZulze, mcire aziis te-

ritoriaze, saqarTveloSi da a.S. sagulisxmoa, rom

aseTi droSebiT Cvens miwa-wyalze ori qalaqi iyo

moniSnuli _ Tbilisi da cxumi. es asec unda yofi-

liyo, radganac orive am qalaqSi kaTolike misio-

nerTa rezidenciebi arsebobda. TbilisSi giorgi

brwyin-vales dros, kaTolikuri eklesiis saepisko-

poso centri mcire aziis qalaq smirnadan gadmoita-

nes, xolo cxumSi aseve XIV saukunis dasawyisidan

kaTolike patris centri da genuis konsulis rezi-

dencia funqcionirebda. aqve unda iTqvas, rom araka-

Tolikur samyaroSi, mag. marTlmadidebel ruseTSi

an osmaleTis imperiaSi Seqmnil politikur rukeb-

ze saqarTvelos qalaqebi e.w. xuTjvriani droSiT

arsad ar aris moniSnuli. am droSebiT geografiu-

li punqtebis aRniSvna mxolod dasavleTevropuli

rukebisTvisaa damaxasiaTebeli, rac kaTolike mogza-

urebs uadvilebda gza gaekvliaT TavianTi samisio-

nero rezidenciebisken da ar gaZnelebodaT ucxoeT-

Si sakuTari sasuliero centrebis povna. swored

amiT aixsneba, rom aRniSnul portulanebze sxvaTa

gverdiT qarTuli qalaqebic e.w. xuTjvriani droSe-

biTaa aRniSnuli da am kaTolikur simbolos qar-

Tul samefo droSasTan saerTo araferi aqvs.

amrigad, qalbatono Tea, Sua saukuneebis qarTu-

li samefo droSa, gnebavT sefe droSa, gnebavT sae-

ro droSa, wminda giorgis xatiT gaxldaT damSvene-

buli da igi ar iyo e.w. xuTjvriani. amas pirdapir

adasturebs is cnobebi, istoriul wyaroebSi romaa

daculi da amis iribi mtkicebuleba mogvepoveba Cve-

namde Semonaxuli saerisTavo Tu samouravo droSe-

bis sa-xiT, romlebzec SuagulSi wminda giorgis sa-

xebaa amoqarguli. e.w. xuTjvriani droSa arasodes

yofila qarTvelTa saero droSa da, metic, igi mTe-

li marTlmadidebeli sauflosTvis ucxoa da miuRe-

beli, radgan kaTolikuri samyaros kuTvnilebas war-

moadgens, romliTac Sua saukuneebSi simbolurad ka-

Tolikur integracias aRniSnavdnen, dRes ki am dro-

SiT globalur-masonuri ideologiis gavrcelebas

da damkvidrebas mianiSneben. ase rom, es ddrrooSSaa,, rroo-

mmeelliicc ssaakkaaSSvviillmmaa ppaarrllaammeennttss ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ssaaxxeellmm-

wwiiffoo aattrriibbuuttaadd ZZaallddaattaanneebbiiTT aaRRiiaarreebbiinnaa,, ssaasswwrraa-

ffoodd uunnddaa SSeeiiccvvaallooss ddaa iiggii ssaammaarrccxxvviinnoodd aaRRaarr uunn-

ddaa ffrriiaalleebbddeess `̀ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss TTaavvzzee~~..

aaqqvvee CCnnddeebbaa kkiiTTxxvvaa,, rrooggoorrii uunnddaa iiyyooss CCvveennii ssaaee-

rroo ddrrooSSaa??!! XXXX ssaauukkuunniiss ddaassaawwyyiissSSii ddaammoouukkiiddeebbeellii

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ppaarrllaammeennttmmaa ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo ddrrooSSaadd ssaamm-

ffeerroovvaannii aallaammii aaRRiiaarraa,, rroommeelliicc iivvaannee jjaavvaaxxiiSSvviilliiss

TTaaoossnnoobbiiTT SSeeiiqqmmnnaa.. qqaarrTTvveellTTaaTTvviiss aamm ssaamm ffeerrss aarraa-

eerrTTii ddaattvviirrTTvvaa aaqqvvss ddaa iiggii ssaamm `̀ssooffeellssaacc~~ ggaannaassaa-

xxiieerreebbss:: mmeewwaammuullii __ sskknneellii,, TTeeTTrrii __ zzeesskknneellii ddaa

SSaavvii __ qqvveesskknneellii.. am samferovani droSiT qarTveli

eris mTeli kosmogoniaa gadmocemuli, radganac ara

mxolod qristeanuli periodis, aramed winare xanis

qarTvelTa msoflgancdasac warmoaCens da, vfiqrob,

ivane javaxiSvilis am arCevaniT yvelaferia gacxade-

buli. Sesacvlelia Rerbic da upriani iqneba, Tuki

isev damoukidebeli saqarTvelosdroindel Rerbs

aRvadgenT. masze gamosaxulia Svidi astraluri mna-

Tobi da qarTvelTa mTavari wmindani giorgi, rome-

lic Tavis TavSi TeTri giorgis saxebasac moicavs

da amdenad es Rerbic or qarTul samyaros _ war-

marTulsa da qristeanuls _ ganasaxierebs. uunnddaa SSee-

iiccvvaallooss aasseevvee hhiimmnnii,, rroommeelliicc aarr ggaaxxllaavvTT oorriiggiinnaa-

lluurrii mmuussiikkaa ddaa aarrccTTuu mmaaRRaallii ggeemmoovvnneebbiiss `̀ppooppuurrii-

aa~~,, rroomm aaRRaarraaffeerrii vvTTqqvvaaTT mmiissii tteeqqssttiiss SSeessaaxxeebb,, ssaa-

ddaacc ggaaiissmmiiss aasseeTTii kkuurriioozzuullii nnaaTTqqvvaammii:: `̀cciisskkrriiss

vvaarrsskkvvllaavvii aammooddiiss~~((??!!)) Tavis droze dimitri arayiS-

vilma damoukidebeli saqarTve-los himnisTvis dawe-

ra melodia, romlis moZiebac Sesabamis fondebsa da

arqivebSi saZnelo saqme ar unda iyos. vfiqrob, iva-

ne javaxiSvilis, pavle ingoroyvas, geronti qiqoZis,

revaz gabaSvilis, iakob nikolaZis, dimitri Sevar-

dnaZis, dimitri arayiSvilis da sxva moazrovneTa

Tu xelovanTa Rvawli dasaviwyebeli ar gaxlavT.

SevqmeniT ki Tavad Cven raime ukeTesi an ufro dax-

vewili?! rac mTavaria, ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo aattrriibbuuttiikkiiss

SSeeqqmmnniissaass aammoossaavvaallii uunnddaa ggaaxxddeess iiss,, rroomm ddaauuSSvveebbee-

lliiaa ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo ssiimmbboollooeebbii eerroovvnnuullii aarrssiissggaann

ddaacclliillii iiyyooss.. xxoomm aarr aajjoobbeebbddaa,, qqaallbbaattoonnoo TTeeaa,, SSee-

ssaabbaammiissii kkoommiissiiaa SSeeggeeqqmmnnaaTT,, ssaaddaacc iissttoorriikkoosseebbii,,

mmkkvvlleevvaarreebbii ddaa ssaazzooggaa-ddoo mmooRRvvaawweennii SSeeiikkrriibbeebbooddnneenn

ddaa xxeelliissuufflleebbaass ssaakkuuTTaarr TTvvaallTTaaxxeeddvvaass SSeessTTaavvaazzeebb-

ddnneenn?? Tuki am mamuliSvilur saqmes iTavebT, es ki-

dev erTi dasturi iqneba im avtoritetisa da xal-

xis keTilganwyobisa, rac Tqveni profesionalizmisa

da principulobis wyalobiT ukve mopovebuli gaqvT.

ppaattiivviisscceemmiiTT,,

nino javeliZeiissttoorriiiiss mmeeccnniieerreebbaaTTaa ddooqqttoorrii

19.01.2013

(ibeWdeba mcireodeni SemoklebiT)

sajaro weriliiusticiis ministrs,qalbaton Tea wulukians

droSa, romelic sakaSvilma

parlaments saqarTvelos saxelmwifo

atributad ZaldatanebiT

aRiarebina, saswrafod unda Seicvalos

ezoterika, (Ezoterikos) dafaruls niSnavs berZulad. Tanamed-

rove gagebiT igi miaxloebulia qurumul codnasTan. ezoteriku-

li sidumloebebis Semcvelia ,,biblia”, ,,oqros sawmisi”, ,,labi-

rinTi”, stoun henji, piramidebi da a. S.

pirveli ezoterikuli dapirispireba protoqarTul da indo-

evropul sivrceebs Soris moxdeba troas aTwliani omis dros

(1380-1370, Zv.w.aR. j. afaqiZe), sadac 120 Tvis ganmavlobaSi aT-

jer mravalricxovanma moieriSeebma verafriT sZlies ilionSi ga-

magrebulebs. da ai, odisevsis mzakvrobiT aigeba xis cxeni. SigniT

mamulisaTvis Tavganwiruli xalxia Camaluli. datoveben am cxens

trial mindorze, moxsnian alyas da mravalricxovani gemebiT iqa-

urobas gaeclebian. troa zeimobs gamarjvebas. mere cxenis qalaq-

Si Segorebas gadawyveten. cxeni saerTod ezoteriulad inteleq-

tis simboloa. gavixsenoT daTa TuTaSxia rogor miugzavnis TeT-

rons muSni zarandias. cxenis Cuqeba sasikvdilo ganaCenis gamota-

naa dafaruli codniT. troaSi cxenis Setanas ewinaaRmdegebian qu-

rumebi laokoonis meTaurobiT, naTelmxilveli tyupi da-Zma _

kasandra da helenosi, magram droebiTi gamrjvebiT gabanguli

brbos winaSe maTi Zalisxmeva umweo aRmoCndeba. moangreven gala-

vans. Seagoreben cxens qalaqSi. miecemian zRvargadasul Rreobas.

mogvianebiT cxenis muclidan amosuli meomrebi amoxocaven karib-

Wis mcvelebs, SemouSveben Tavisianebs da dedawulianad amowydeba

troa.

damoukidebeli telekompania ,,rusTavi-2” ezioterikis enaze

pirwavardnili ,,troa-2”-a, oRond _ saTanadod SeniRbuli. bune-

baSi ar arsebula cneba ,,rusTavi-1”, ,,rusTavi -3”. es troas mas-

kirebisTvis gamogonili xerxia _ aq gandobilTaTvis gasagebi eni-

Taa miniSnebuli ,,tr’’, ,r” aso-bgera, rogorc troas akustikuri

gamoZaxili. xolo ,,2” gasaebia _ 3370+12 wlis Semdeg mzakvru-

li omis gamocxadeba TeTri rasis warmomadgenlebis _ proto-ibe-

rielebis STamomavali qarTvelebis winaaRmdeg. ,,rusTavi-2-is”

logos Tavidan Tvali hqonda, romelic zemoT-zemoT arboda SeS-

lili gamoxedviT. Semdgom igi ufro daixvewa, ufro SeiniRba da

dRemde aulagmavad eweva antiadamianur saqmianobas _ mdare gemov-

nebis danergvas mosaxleobaSi, uzneo teleserialebis demonstri-

rebas, mamaTmavlobis amazrzen propagandas, multiplikaciuri

filmebis miknavlebuli xmiT gaxmovanebas da am gziT mozardebis

adreuli asakidanve gawirvas arasrulfasovnebis kompleqsisaTvis

(xma umTavresi faqtoria pirovnebis CamoyalibebaSi, vinaidan xor-

xi wina jirkvalis gvirgvinia. msgavsi manipulaciebiT degradire-

buli adamiani umuxtoa, siTamamewarTmeuli, winaaRmdegobis uuna-

ro. ai, ras emsaxureba ,,rusTavi-2”-is _ ,,troa-2-is” muxanaTuri

damkvidreba Cvens tele-sivrceSi. mas emateba surogati ,,komedi-

Sous” Tavgasuloba. isini uangariSod Tavze lafs asxamen qarTve-

lebisaTvis saTayvanebel monarqiul instituts. magaliTisaTvis,

vinme TmazRarbuna raindia mowinaaRmdeges Tu daamarcxebs, mefis

asuls SerTaven colad da Tu daijabneba, ufliswulze daweren

jvars. lamis meoTxedi saukunea qadagebs amisTana sisaZgleebs es

oylayis nairsaxeoba tele-kompania da ganmkiTxavi aravinaa. ,,qar-

Tuli ocneba” mokrZalebiT afiqsirebs maT sabiujeto davaliane-

bebs, ucacxanebs mis dRevandel mesveurs raRac uniaTo garRveve-

bis gamo, mTavarze mTvari ki Cveni gakvirvebiT miviwyebulia _ qar-

Tuli sulierebis aRviraxsnili xelyifa.

qarTuli faseulobebis mimarT SeniRbuli Semoteva gansakuT-

rebiT konstituciis moedanze ,,andropovis yurebis” aRmarTvas

mohyva. komunistur periodSi moednis gafarToebas, Seewira kaza-

rianis saxlis ukana mxare. mogvianebiT memoriali moiSala, magram

misi sruli likvidacia ver moxerxda _ betoni aRmoCnda zesim-

Zlavris. sanacvlod male rusTavelis Zeglis gverdiT CaCqaniani

,,makdonaldsi” aRimarTa; amas mohyva sastumro ,,iveriis”, gadanaT-

lva ,,radison-blud” _ lurjad.

kazarianis saxlisken TiTmiSverili daviT aRmaSeneblis monu-

menti salto-mortaleTi misive saxelobis xeivnisken gadabrZanda

da axla is TiTi dasavleT saqarTvelosaa miSverili _ rogorc

mosarjulebel areals; konstituciis moedanze darCa ,,gamarjve-

bis” simbolod or saWe-sajdomiani velosipedi, romelsac mxolod

erTi pedali gaaCnia da amisTana viTarebaSi qarTuli mxarisaTvis

SemoTavazebulia niadag uZraoba, siClunge, martivi eniT _ sikv-

dili. yovelive amas uswrebda moqalaqeTa piradobis mowmobaSi

demokratiis burji qalbatoniseuli erovnebis rekvizitis, mamis

saxelis gaqroba, rac qveynis araqarTuli mosaxleobis warmomav-

lobis mzakvruli SeniRbvaa. 9 aprilis monumenti xelebis marwu-

xebSi moeqca maradiuli tyveobis sawindrad. gaqra parlamentis

fasadidan maradmwvane mcenareebi. maT adgilas esoden moxSirebu-

li Sadrevnebi aCuxCuxda. amiT qaragmulad iTqva _ wyali Segiye-

neTo. sityvas saqme mohyva, iunkrebis Zvlebze aRmarTuli Senoba

60 milion larad mihyides vinme moskovel qeburias. sanacvlod qu-

Taisis misadgomebTan ukarfanjrebo naxevarsfero daayudes, xuT-

jer Tu eqvsjer ZviradRirebuli. am SenobaSi haeri gaiSviaTebu-

lulia. kondincirebuliT sunTqva ki, rigiT parlamentars ki ara,

afrikis spilos moinelebs 24 TveSi. metsac getyviT, parlamentis

axali Senoba egziuperis ,,patara ufliswulidan” usesxebia av-

tors _ igi piTonia, romelmac gadaylapa spilo. maxrCobela ga-

sagebia, magram Cven, qarTvelebs, bevrad ar gvepitnaveba gadaylapu-

li spilos viTarebaSi yofna. spilo xom amirani ar aris basri

orlesuliT gaufatros muceli, iqidan gamosaRwevad?! ,,qarTuli

ocneba” gvpirdeba dedaqalaqSi parlamentis Camobrunebas, magram

jer-jerobiT sityvas saqme ar mosdevs. Cven ki davsZendiT, miaSa-

veT moskovel qeburias axali parlamentis Senoba muqTad SeZeni-

li Zvelis sanacvlod. winaaRmdeg SemTxvevaSi qarTuli kanonmdeb-

loba troas cxenis lukma Seiqneba adre Tu gvian. amasTan, gasauq-

mebelia sxvadasxva mowvevis parlamentarebisaTvis (bibliurad mar-

Tali kacis Sesadari guram maqacarias gamoklebiT), sruliad da-

umsaxurebeli stipendiebi. es gaCumebis salafavia ,,naRebi qarTve-

lebisaTvis” erovnuli interesebis sazianod, raTa Semdgom tan-fe-

xianad gadagvylapos, rogorc maxrCobelam _ spilo egziuperis

,,patara ufliswulidan~.

bevrs aSeneben ,,nacionalebi”, maT Zalisxmevas Tavis droze gi-

gantur naxtoms varqmevdiT feodalur saqarTveloSi. bunebrivia,

mSeneblobebs mosdevs sarfa. magram, investiciebiT ki ara _ sabi-

ujeto saxsrebiT Sendeboda Turme es uxarisxo arqiteqturuli

egzemplarebi, vinaidan xelyofili iyo adgilobrivi biznesi; eli-

turi korufciis gamo zurgi Segvaqcia oligarqiulma msofliom

da saxelmwifo vali vgoneb, sadReisod 10 miliardi aSS dolria.

rac Seexeba gaxmaurebul qalaq lazikas, davrwmundi _ morigi

troa-2-ia saqarTveloSi demografiuli fonis sabolood Sesacv-

lelad. penjapeli indoelebis, ganTesili Cinelebis forsirebul-

ma Semoyvanam didi efeqti ver gamoiRo. axla gacilebiT met toq-

sikur dozas gvimzadeben naxevarmilioniani qalaq lazikas saxiT.

am qmedebiT Cveni miTosuri ,,Zmebi” or kurdRels iWeren, pirveli

_ globalizciis iarliyiT axdenen saqaTvelos amerikanizacias da

meore _ amzadeben placdarms Zladobrivi ,,diadi imperiisaTvis”.

amerikis poziciidan TiTqos yvelaferi warmatebulad xorcielde-

ba, Tanamimdevrulad mimdinareobs saqarTvelos, kavkasiis sinqro-

nizacia misi cxovrebis wesis damkvidrebis kvalobaze. amerikelebs

amas iqiT arc ainteresebT romeli eTnikuri jgufi iqneba region-

Si lideri, aborigeni Tu CamoTeslili, magram qarTvelebis erov-

nuli interesebis sawinaaRmdegod mimarTuli ,,nacionaluri” rvaw-

ledi aSkaraze aSkaraa da zarebis darisxebis Jamic damdgara. bev-

ri rom ar gavagrZeloT, amocnobilia ,,erTiani nacionaluri moZ-

raobisa” da misi samagido wignis ,,gadamwyveti brZola saqarTve-

losaTvis” WeSmariti arsi _ isini sarkis moSveliebiT unda wai-

kiTxo sinamdvilis maZiebelma: sadac ,,nacionaluri” weria, iq ,,an-

tierovnuli” unda aRiqva, sadac ,,saqarTvelosaTvis” Segxvdeba, iq

,,saqarTvelos dasamxobad” unda igulisxmo.

qarTveli kaci gautexelia, roca rainduli wesiT ebrZvian;

zviadauri arafriT Seewireba darlas, raJams yelSi danas uyrian

gaTokils, magram nebismieri adamiani ususuria, maT Soris _ zvi-

aduric Tqvens mona-morCilTan erTad, Tuki brbo qvebis magivrad

cocxebs moimarjvebs da mkvidrad Sekruli tarebiT mogadgeba

wels qvemore. da mainc samSoblos gadarCenis valdebuleba gva-

maRlebs nebismier SiSze da gvamoqmedebs warbSeuxrelad, rom iro-

niuli RimiliT gavecaloT mtkvarze gaxirul camcumis SuSis

xids _ es urCxulis tyupiscalia dezorientirebuli siarulisT-

vis gaCxibuli, ivli, ivli da belzebelis megzurobiT ufalTan

verasdros miaRwev.

20.01.2013 w.


guri otobaia

gadamwyveti

brZola

saqarTvelosaTvis


`ssaaeerrTToo ggaazzeeTTiiss~~ ssttuummaarriiaa mmwweerraallii

mzia Cxetiani

__ `̀mmzziiaa CCxxeettiiaannii rriiTTmmiissaa ddaa rriiTTmmeebbiiss,,

mmeettaaffoorreebbiiss,, ffrrTTiiaannii ssttrriiqqoonneebbiiss TTvvaall-

ssaaCCiinnoo oossttaattiiaa,, rraacc TTaavviisseebbuurr xxiibbllssaa ddaa

mmiimmzziiddvveelloobbaass aanniiWWeebbss mmiissssaavvee lliirriikkuull

SSeeddeevvrreebbss.. aamm kkoonntteeqqssttSSii ssaagguulliissxxmmooaa mmii-

ssii ppaassuuxxii iinntteerrvviiuuSSii ddaassmmuull kkiiTTxxvvaazzee::

`̀rraa aarriiss ppooeezziiaa??~~ qqaallbbaattoonnii mmzziiaa CCxxeettiiaa-

nnii ssxxaarrttaadd,, xxaattoovvnnaadd ppaassuuxxoobbss:: `̀CCeemmTTvviiss

lleeqqssii bbeeddiisswweerraaaa~~ ddaa mmeerree __ lleeqqssaadd:: `̀nnee-

ttaavvii aamm mmkkvvlleellss rraa hhqqvviiaa??

rraa uuRRvvTToodd ssaaRRvvTToo cceeccxxllii??

mmeettaaffoorreebbiiss mmaaggiiaa,, rriiTTmmiiss bbrroollii ddaa

vveerrccxxllii......

ggaahhkkvveessaavvss,, JJrrJJoollaadd ddaaggiiaarrss,,

eellvviiss nnaappeerrwwkklleebbss ggeessvvrriiss......~~

mmaarrTTllaacc aasseeaa __ eess mmaaRRaallii ppooeezziiaa nnaaRR-

ddii ssaaRRvvTToo cceeccxxlliiaa.. eemmoocciiuurrii mmuuxxttiiTT rroomm

ggaavvsseebbss,, ssaaTTqqmmeelliiss ssaazzrriissssaa ddaa ssuulliisskkvvee-

TTeebbaass rroomm ggaaddaaggddeebbss ddaa ggxxiibbllaavvss.. mmTTeellii

wwiiggnnii aasseeTT mmxxaattvvrruull ffeennoommeennaadd aaRRiiqqmmeebbaa~~..

`̀mmzziiaa CCxxeettiiaanniiss SSeemmooqqmmeeddeebbaaSSii wwaammyyvvaannii

mmoottiivviiaa ssiixxaarruulliiss ZZiieebbaa,, ssiiyyvvaarruulliiss zzeeoo-

bbaa ddaa iiss iiddeeaalleebbii,, rraacc eessooddeenn mmnniiSSvvnneelloo-

vvaanniiaa mmoozzaarrddii TTaaoobbiiss ssuulliieerr ccxxoovvrreebbaassaa

ddaa uurrTTiieerrTToobbaaSSii......~~

ssiimmoonn aarrvveellaaZZee,, aallmmaannaaxxii `̀ggaannTTiiaaddii~~,, 77-

88,, 22001122 ww..~~

eess aammoonnaarriiddeebbii TTqqvveennss wwiiggnnzzee ddaawweerriillii

rreecceennzziiiiddaann ggaaxxllaavvTT...... ggiillooccaavvTT aamm wwiiggnn-

ssaacc ddaa bbaattoonnii ssiimmoonn aarrvveellaaZZiiss wweerriillssaacc..

gguulliiaannii rreecceennzziiaaaa,, ZZaalliiaann ssaammaarrTTlliiaannii..

iiccnnoobbTT bbaattoonn ssiimmoonnss??

_ mxolod presaSi gamoqveynebuli pub-

likaciebiT. piradad, samwuxarod, ar Sev-

xvedrivar. amitomac mixaria, rom am ganaT-

lebulma da literaturaSi Rrmad Caxe-

dulma kacma yuradRebis Rirsad CaTvala

Cemi wigni da aseTi vrceli werili gamo-

aqveyna almanax `ganTiadSi~.

__ iimmaazzee rraass iittyyvviiTT,, bbaattoonnii ssiimmoonnii rroomm

iiddeeaalliisstt-rroommaannttiikkooss ppooeettaadd mmooggiixxsseenniieebbTT

((`̀iiddeeaalliisstt-rroommaannttiikkoossii ppooeettii TTiiTTqqooss

iiddeeaalliizzeebbuullaadd wwaarrmmooggvviiddggeennss wwaarr-

ssuullss......~~)),, eess nniiSSaannddoobblliivviiaa??

_ vfiqrob, ki. buneba maqvs aseTi: var

da arca var, TiTqos, mocemul realobaSi

ar varsebob. bavSvobaSi xSirad mesayvedu-

rebodnen _ geZaxiT, gesmis da ar gvexmia-

nebio. geyofa maRla-maRla farfati, miwa-

ze Camodi da yuri gvaTxoveo. axlac ase

var _ vzivar axloblebTan da ucbad aR-

movaCen, rom sxvagan vimyofebi. vfiqrob,

swored ganmartoebaSi (xSirad _ sakuTar

TavTan gaucxoebaSic!) napovni abstraqcie-

bi gaxlavT es Cemi leqsebi. an, iqneb, pi-

riqiT _ sakuTar sulSi Cxrekisas aRmoCe-

nili. albaT, yvela poeti asea... diax,

sulSi... `sadRac, uRranSi gadakarguli

zogjer tyis piras modis, CinarTan, Cemi

bavSvoba _ damfrTxali nukri, am bilikze

rom gauCinarda...~ es striqonebi 1975

wels gamocemuli wignidan gaxlavT. cxa-

dia, abstraqciaa... ufro metaforul abst-

raqcias davarqmevdi, e.w. siurrealis-

turs... `zaumi~ _ ai, gonsmiRmierio, lit-

mcodneebi rom amboben. vfiqrob: SeiZleba

iTqvas, qvecnobieris `mesame TvaliT~ dana-

xuli.

__ ssaaiinntteerreessooaa,, TTuummccaa,, mmaarrTTaallii ggiiTTxx-

rraaTT,, eess TTqqvveennii ZZvveellii lleeqqssii aarr mmaaxxssoovvddaa..

_ albaT, arc wagikiTxavT. sul pirve-

li lirikuli krebulidanaa. yofierebidan

gaqceva miqmnis axal realobas, sinamdvi-

les, romelSic da romliTac vsuldgmu-

lob. miT ufro, rom literatura xelov-

nebaa da Cveulebrivi yoveldRiurobis

ali-kvali ver iqneba. arc unda iyos. axla

fotografiac aRar aris mxolod arsebu-

li sinamdvilis kopireba, _ fotoxelova-

ni xSirad TviTon qmnis Tavisebur vizu-

als da imas afiqsirebs. miT umetes, poe-

zia. man xom sagnisa Tu movlenis suli,

arsi unda warmoaCinos... Tumca me Zalian

cvalebadi var, rogorc buneba weliwadis

droTa brunvaSi.

__ `̀xxaann mmiiwwiissaa xxaarrTT,, xxaann __ cciissaa~~,, aarraa??

_ Tundac! akaki geniosia. ase sxva ve-

ravin ityvis. Tumca, Cems arsebaSi aris

iseTi Rrma da myari Sreebi, romlebic ara-

sodes icvleba. erTi ram zustad vici:

Cems sulsa da xasiaTSi myari da ucvle-

li simarTlisa da samarTlianobis

moTxovnileba gaxlavT. `Sen marTali qali

xar~, _ miTxra erTxel Cvenma saucxoo po-

etma manana CitiSvilma. mixaria, rom Cemi

xasiaTis es Tviseba batonma simonmac dai-

naxa am wignSi: `simarTle mwarea. patri-

oti da marTali qalis wkipurtebi _ ga-

cilebiT ufro mware...~ `misi TvalTA

xedva efuZneba simarTlis Tqmis iliase-

ul princips...~ Tumca, netavi ki vinmes

afiqrebdes es simarTle! jerjerobiT

imedebis msxvrevaSi var... magram, ra vi-

ci, RmerTma qnas da amieridan ukeTesoba

iyos.

__ `̀vviiRRaacc ggaammoorrbbiiss...... ssiimmaarrTTllee ddaa ssii-

xxaarruullii mmooaaqqvvss aammjjeerraadd~~...... mmaarrTTaallii

bbrrZZaannddeebbiiTT,, iimmeeddii uunnddaa vviiqqoonniiooTT......

_ diax, 1995 wels davwere es leq-

si da dResac aqtualuria. ver vityvi,

rom 90-iani wlebis koSmaris Semdeg

Cvens yofaSi sasikeTo Zvrebi ar yofila,

magram Cemi da Cemi Taobis mwerlebisT-

vis simarTlec miuRweveli darCa da _

samarTlianobac. axlandel TanamSrom-

lebze ra mogaxsenoT da kulturis sa-

ministros muSakebs Soris, adre ki

brZandeboda romeliRac qalbatoni, ro-

melsac, mapatieT da, simarTleca da sa-

marTlianobac fexebze ekida da _ gamoc-

dil xandazmul mweralTa bedic! imedi

maqvs, aseT ganukiTxaobas bolo moeReba.

axla kulturis ministrad mwerali

daniSnes... es faqti ki imaze mianiSnebs,

rom qveynis axal mTavrobas aravisgan es-

wavleba mwerlisa da mwerlobis mniSvne-

loba erovnuli sulierebis aRorZinebis

saqmeSi. bolos da bolos, mxatvruli az-

rovnebis saTaveebTan xom mwerlebi dganan!

_ mwerlebma (uflis karnaxiT!) Seqmnes

`biblia~ _ Zveli da axali aRTqma... `yu-

rani~ da Tu gnebavT, TviTon adamianic! di-

ax, adamiani Tavisi pirovnuli RirsebebiT

_ sulierebisadmi, RvTiurobisadmi swraf-

vis midrekilebebiT (aki, Jan pol sartric

ambobs: wina Taobis mwerlebi, erTgvarad,

winaswarmetyvelnic iyvneno!). cxadia, yve-

la mwerali erTnairi profesionali ar

aris, magram gana yvela politikosi, yvela

eqimi, pedagogi... erTia? ara, mwerlebi

udier da usamarTlo mopyrobas ar vimsa-

xurebT! sxva Tu araferi, sul SromaSi

varT. ai, axlac, am siciveSic, viorTqlavT

dayinul TiTebs, rom adamianebs simarTle

vuTxraT. viRac ki, qveynisa da xalxis sa-

sikeTod TiTze TiTi rom ar daukarebia da

mavneblobasac arc Tu iSviaTad sCadioda

_ TaRliTobda, qurdobda, narkodilerob-

da... Svilebic narkomanebi gamouvida, xel-

mrudobasac SeaCvia da zogierT maTgans

sulac mkvlelobisTvis uzis cixeSi... di-

ax, amisTana vaimoqalaqeni da pensioneri

mwerlebi RvTis, kacisa Tu kanonis winaSe

erTni ar unda aRmovCeniliyaviT! amboben,

rom sxvagan, postsabWouri sivrcis sxva

qveynebSi, mwerlebs ufro Rirseul pativs

miagebeno... `komunistebi wignebs gvicemdnen

da honorarsac gvixdidnen~, _ gulistki-

vilis leqsad gamoxatva ucdia erT kole-

gas. cxadia, es taepebi poeturobis nimu-

Sad ar gamodgeba, magram isic xom faqtia,

rom SeWirvebulma adamianma mware gulis-

nadebi amoiZaxa. Znelia, amisTana damamcire-

bel pirobebSi cxovreba. pensia gagvizar-

des 14 laridan 125 laramde da amis (ki-

dev bevri sxva ramisac!) daunaxaoba umadu-

roba iqneba, magram iseTi siZvirea... ra

vqna, miuxedavad Cemi romantikuli bunebi-

sa, mtkivneulad aRviqvam, rac irgvliv

xdeba _ aki, pirvelad me aRvniSne, rom ga-

momcemloba èrovnul mwerlobaSi~ erisa

da berisTvis dasagmobi da miuRebeli, xo-

lo mwerlisa da mwerlobisTvis yovlad

Seuferebeli uzneoba iyo gabatonebuli.

Tumca, ra ginda qna! es qristes fexis

mkvneteli vaJa oTaraSvili TviT mavan

RvTis msaxurTa Sorisac miRebuli da pa-

tivdebuli kacia. `vicis jayom~ visi guli

unda moigos! samwuxarod, arc mTavrobas

Seuwuxebia Tavi imis garkveviT, am kacs

marTla xom ar gauwyra RmerTio. mTavro-

bam ki ara, maSin mwerlebmac wyali Caigu-

bes pirSi. is ki arada, mweralTa yrilo-

baze faras mowyvetili erTi `koWli cxva-

ric~ ar mosula CemTan _ im rigSiac ar

dasxdnen, me rom vijeqi. ai, swored amis-

Tana damokidebulebam qna, rom mis ùuda-

usjeloba~ da ùutifroba~ vaJa oTaraS-

vils kidev 5 wliT CarCa xelSi sayvle-

fad èrovnuli mwerlobis~ finansebi, isev

ise nebaze parpaSebda, xelic aravis auqne-

via, _ emand, buzi ar avufrinoT uneblie-

To. verc aufrines... aba, erTi, Cveni kavSi-

ris wevrTa satelefono cnobarSi Caixe-

deT _ rusTavelisa da nobelis premiebis

garda premia ar darCenila, rom am qo-

satyuilas ar mieRos... da raoden gasakvi-

ric unda iyos, isev Cveni SemoqmedebiTi

organizaciis Tavmjomaris moadgiled iTv-

leba.

Cemgan aravis eswavleba, magram... erTi

riggareSe yriloba mainc mogvewvia...

axla is miTxariT: amisTana yofaSi rom

marTal adamians sixaruli saZebari gaux-

des, vis unda gaukvirdes? miT ufro, rom

jer kidev Tamaris epoqaSi, Cveni istori-

is oqros xanaSi brZana didma rusTavelma,

_ `kargi ram gWirdes, gikvirdes, avi ra

sakvirveliao...~

__ ddaa bbaattoonnii ssiimmoonniicc wweerrss:: `̀mmzziiaa CCxxee-

ttiiaanniiss SSeemmooqqmmeeddeebbaaSSii wwaammyyvvaannii mmoottiivvii ssiixxaa-

rruulliiss ZZiieebbaa ddaa ssiiyyvvaarruulliiss zzeeoobbaaaaoo~~..

_ da cdilobs, gamaxaros... me misi sa-

xiT aRmovaCine kaci, romelsac literatu-

rac uyvars da _ mweralic! madlobeli

var misi. axal wels vulocav da RmerTs

vTxov, janmrTeli da dRegrZeli iyos, ki-

dev didxans icocxlos... Zalian vemadlie-

rebi `ganTiadis~ mTavar redaqtorsac _

cnobil poetsa da prozaikoss, publicis-

tsa da mTargmnels avTandil yuraSvils.

marTla avTandilia, ra! _ `guls rom mis-

cems gulisaTvis da siyvaruls _ gzad da

xidad~... am adamianebis yuradRebam ise ga-

maxara, gind daijereT, gind _ ara da am

sixarulis Semdeg avad ar gavmxdarvar,

albaT, adamianebma ase unda acocxlon er-

TmaneTi~.

__ mmaarrTTaallii bbrrZZaannddeebbiiTT,, kkiiddeevv TTuu aappii-

rreebbTT wwiiggnniiss ggaammoocceemmaass??

_ gamosacemi bevri maqvs _ xuTasamde

lirikuli leqsi (sabavSvo leqseb-

sa da poemebze aRarafers vambob).

axali moTxrobebic davwere. cudia,

rom `mnaTobi~ aRar gamodis. `yvela-

feri momwons, rasac Sen wer da

`mnaTobis~ gamocema rom moxerxdes,

rasac ki SemomTavazeb, davbeWdavo~...

_ vitire batoni Tamaz WilaZis am

sityvebze, misgan aseTi sityvebis

mosmena CemTvis sicocxlis tolfa-

si iyo.

da ai, ra lamazad, rogori

mxatvruli ostatobiT aris gadmo-

cemuli es marTlacda udidesi

sadReiso satkivari sul raRac

oTxiode striqoniT: `saiT gafrin-

diT, gezelqorebo, sikvdils sad

eZebT surviliT, mwariT? _ dedo-

zars, risxviT rom Camorekos, isev

awydeba zedaznis qari...~ calkeul

nawarmoebis originalur gaazrebaze

rom araferi vTqvaT, es wigni kom-

poziciuradac Zalian sainteresoa:

ciklebad dayofili leqsebi, aseve

sainteresod mignebuli da SerCeu-

li dasaTaurebani, gonivruli, ni-

Sandoblivi epigrafebiT damSvenebuli... ax-

laxan ydac vaxseneT... da Tundac ydidan

rom daviwyoT, wignis redaqtoris _ mari-

am wiklauris sityvebiT rom vTqvaT,

`RvTis madliTaa savse aqauroba... dedaSvi-

lobis madliT, winaprisadmi mowiwebis

madliT, siyvarulis madliT...~

_ ayvavebuli alublis xeebSi axalgaz-

rda avtori Camdgara da icinis, TiTqos am

ayvavebul totebs miRma raRac ucxosa da

kidev ufro mSveniers Wvretso... iqneb,

imas, rom xval-zeg sixarulisa da siyva-

rulis zeobad unda iqces _ sayovelTao

sixarulisa da siyvarulis zeobad!~ da Tu

ase ar aris, maSin...

`gulis kankaliT vis Zaxils vismenT,

rom saxvalio ToneSi davSvreT?

ra Zala gvixmobs gizgiza mzisken,

rogorc JRurtula Citebs da bavS-

vebs?

sizmrad Tu _ cxadSi,

cxadSi Tu _ sizmrad...

ra gvezideba zemoT da zemoT?

Tu siyvaruli ar aris, gviTxran,

maS raRa gvinda am qveynad, Cemo?~

__ qqaallbbaattoonnoo mmzziiaa,, rraass eettyyvviiTT mmkkiiTTxx-

vveellss??

_ Tqven lamazad daasruleT Cveni di-

alogi. me, raki ukeTess verafers vityvi,

pavle mociqulis sityvebs moviSvelieb:

`winaswarmetyvelic rom viyo, yoveli sai-

dumlo codnac rom vuwyode, iseTi rwme-

na mqondes, mTebis gadabruneba-gadaadgile-

ba SemeZlos, Tu siyvaruli ar gamaCnia,

araraoba viqnebodi~.

Cven ki... hai, hai, rom siyvarulis de-

ficiti lamis sneulebad gveqca. minda, yve-

las mivmarTo, _ mweralsac da aramwe-

ralsac: gviyvardes erTmaneTi da is saqme,

romliTac xalxsa da qveyanas vemsaxure-

biT. da es siyvaruli, upiratesad, erTma-

neTis waRmarTad garjisa da rudunebis

danaxviTa da dafasebiT gamovxatoT.

nu viqnebiT araraobani!

ana vadaWkoria

`metaforebis magia, riTmisbroli da vercxli~...

sakontraqto samsaxurSi gawveva iwyeba dRes saqarTveloSi sakontraqto samsaxurSi gaw-

veva iwyeba. am dResTan dakavSirebiT saqarTvelos

Tavdacvis saministro mTeli qveynis masStabiT PR-

kampanias iwyebs.

Tavdacvis saministros informaciiT, saswavlo

centris meTauri, vice-ppolkovniki levan beria erov-

nul saswavlo centr “krwanisSi” Jurnalistebs rek-

rutebis sacxovrebel pirobebsa da sawyisi sabrZo-

lo momzadebis kurss gaacnobs, ministris moadgile

Tamar qarosaniZe ki pres-kkonferencias gamarTavs,

romlis dasrulebis Semdeg sakalaTburTo klub “armias” kalaTburTelebTan er-

Tad, sakontraqto samxedro samsaxurSi miRebasTan dakavSirebul PR-kkampanias i. ja-

vaxiSvilis saxelobis Tbilisis saxelmwifo universitetis I korpusis ezoSi ga-

agrZelebs.


niWi unda, batono, yvela-

fers, niWi!

aba, me da CemisTanebi rom

varT, imitom vaskdebiT SiSve-

li xelebiT daxurul karebs.

yofiliyavi mezRapre da

“piarSCiki”, batono, da gagi-

Rebdnen Senc kars. mere am

kars rom gagiRebdnen, jer

hols dagaTvalierebinebdnen,

mere kargad Tu moiqceodi,

foCian konfetebsac mogcemdnen

da romelime oTaxis karsac

SegaRebinebdnen. mere Tu Zali-

an kargad moergebodi situaci-

as, mesxi meleqsis ooodnav ga-

dakeTebul versias waikiTxav-

di mxatvrulad da eg aris!

“a”-m da “i”-m adgilebi “ai

ia”-dan rom gacvales, imito-

mac airia, albaT, Cveni saqme

da Wiri sul qarTvelebs dag-

vrCa da lxini romc Caenacv-

los, ukan gavagdebT, - fui,

eSmaks, Sen vina xaro?

ai, aseTi Wir-naxuli eri

varT Cven!

Cveni mo-Wir-naxu(i)-le xe-

lisuflebiT (saakaSvilis xe-

lisuflebas vgulisxmob).

Tumca, ras mived-movedebi?

Cemi ambavi mindoda momeTxro

da saqveyno ambebze gadaverTe.

ai, aseTebi varT qarTvelebi,

diad rameebs veWidebiT...

Cemi ambavi, simarTles gau-

marjos da, zRapars odnavadac

ar hgavs. is ki ara da, sul

gulmuceli daewveba kacs, uk-

ve aTasjer gamomwvar-gamofuf-

quli rom ar hqondes.

da, ra giTxraT kidev... xan-

daxan iseT sasowarkveTileba-

Si vvardebi Cemi ambiT, rom

romelime Sadrevans xarbad

davewafebi xolme gulCamwva-

ri, odnav rom gavgrilde. mad-

loba Cvens mo-Wir-naxu(i)-le-

ebs, rom yvela quCaze mravla-

daa es Sadrevnebi, Torem xom

momiwevda aqeT-iqiT sirbili?

Sen ras ityvi, mesxi meleq-

sis ubadlo mkiTxvelo?

saxlis, meuRlis, mSoble-

bis dakargvis Semdeg me da

Cems Svils moWirnaxuilem yo-

velTviurad 50 lari gamogvi-

yo socialuri daxmareba. isic

wlebis mere da mainc ver mo-

visvene. aseTia adamianis gau-

maZRari buneba. meti da meti

ginda. Tan esec ar ikmara da

sadazRvevo polisic momca!

diax, sadazRvevo kompania “al-

fa”-Si dagvazRvia deda-Svili.

hoda, nametani rom Semawu-

xa janmrTelobasTan dakavSi-

rebulma problemebma da Cemi

Svilis feric ar momewona, vi-

fiqre, wavalT, vnaxavT, ra

gvWirs, eqims gavesaubrebiT,

gemoglobinis dones gavigebT...

saqmeSi xar? poliklinikaSi

imxela rigi damxvda isteriu-

lad moyayane, motirali, mawye-

vari da mavedrebeli adamiane-

bisa, rom mxolod 3-saaTiani

brZolis Semdeg mivaRwie TeT-

rxalaTian qalbatonTan, ro-

melmac RimiliT ganmimarta,

rom 33-e viyavi da dRes ver

movaswrebdi eqimTan vizits,

rom mere Semomevlo da bedi

mecada.

es “kidev scadeT” yelSia

amosuli!

mere gairkva, rom sadazRve-

vo kompaniis Tu socialuri

samsaxuris SecdomiT, me da Ce-

mi Svili or sxvadasxva po-

liklinikaSi movxvdiT. erTi

qalaqis TavSia, meore – bolo-

Si.

sul amiduRda braziT gul-

muceli, Sadrevans davewafe da

miSvela, magram sanam SeiZleba

wyliT gagrilde?

... wamovediT me da gio

ukan... wamovediT da gzad sul

amomitivtivda gonebaSi Cemi 9-

wliani tanjva-wameba. iseTebi

gamaxsendaaa... mtrisas!

mere isic gamaxsenda, qarT-

veli rom var!

isic, saqarTveloSi rom

vcxovrob da saqarTvelo rom

wesiT, Cemia, Tu me var misi...

gavbrazdi, magram ra gavb-

razdi, sul naperwklebi vyare

da arc im sityvis Tqmis mome-

rida, qarTulad da rusula-

dac rom sami asoa, magram me

mainc qali var da bavSvTan

rusulad Tqma vamjobine. Tum-

ca gamaxsenda, rom gio meTor-

mete welSia da inglisurad,

germanulad da italiuradac

mSvenivrad esmis es sityva. bo-

diSis Tavi sad mqonda, Svil-

mac, ara uSavs, dedi, kargi,

dawynardio da momefera. es ki

aRar unda eqna – iqve wiTel-

yviTel skamze Camovjeqi da

pirdafCenilma vibRavle...

arada, xom evaleba qveyanas

Tavisi Svilebis dacva? adami-

ansac xom gevaleba Seni qvey-

nis sanimuSo Svili iyo? geva-

leba! hoda, movindome. ise mo-

vindome, rom ori diplomi mi-

devs Taroze, Jurnalistis da

reJisoris. xan erTia zemodan,

xan – meore... gaaCnia, mtvers

ra sixSiriT vwmend...

viswavle... da SevTavaze Ce-

mi persona moWirnaxuileebs.

ariqa! modiT, SemomxedeT, ga-

momiyeneT, damasaqmeT. energia

maqvs uzRvavi, bevr karg saqmes

gavakeTeb-meTqi.

ZaRli yefs da qaravani mi-

dis... vis dakargvixar?

eh, ra vuTxari me baton

nodar tabiZes, baton rezo

esaZes, baton giga lorTqifa-

niZes da kidev sxva batonebs

da qalbatonebs, rom maqezebd-

nen, - midi, midi! niWieri xar,

were... iSrome, Sen ukve Semd-

gari poeti da Jurnalisti xa-

ro...

... wigni momgebiani Tema ar

aris, bodiSi, magram am saRa-

mos restoranSi ki vepatiJebi

sasiamovno qalbatonso. ra

qalbatoni, maSin 26 wlisa vi-

yavi, is bRenZia biznesmeni ki

60-s mitanebuli da, aba, raRa

sponsorobis Tavi eqneboda

wignis ambavSi? ise, sarestor-

nod Zalian iqaCeboda.

gavbrazdi da es ambavi imiT

damTavrda, rom sul lawiraki

xuligani meZaxa, me, samagie-

rod, kompiuteri davumtvrie...

erTi-ori wlis mere ki

damcxa Zalian, saxelmwifo

samsaxuris maRal eSelonebSi

rom vixile da televizoris

ekranidan rom afrqvevda

brtyel-brtyel frazebs. mag-

ram Caiara am ambavma mSvido-

biT.

bavSvi xom unda gamomekve-

ba? avdeqi da Teatraluri

universitetis paralelurad

Jurnalistad daviwye muSaoba

erT-erT cnobil, ara, Zalian

cnobil JurnalSi. es mexmare-

boda, Tavi mometyuebina, rom

yvelaferi arc ise cudadaa...

magram redaqtorma erT-erTi

statia damibloka da miTxra,

davwerdi imas, rac TviTon

surda da ise, rogorc TviTon

surda.

wamovedi... ufulobas da

upurobas rogorRac Seeguebi,

sakuTari azris arqonas – ver!

arada, samsaxuris gareSe

darCenili, usaxlkaro, uded-

mamo, uqmro... patara SviliT,

romelsac Cems garda aravin

hyavda...

mTeli qalaqi fexdafex da-

viare Cemi Jurnalistis da re-

Jisoris diplomebiT, magram

rad ginda! vera! Caketili siv-

rcea...

erTxelac, qalaqis mers

amomrCevlebTan Sexvedra hqon-

da... winasaarCevno periodia...

vifiqre, movsinjav-meTqi, para-

lelurad meriaSi asamde gan-

cxadeba midevs samsaxurTan da-

kavSirebiT da yvela “RmerTma

daglocoT”-i mTavrdeba.

hoda, merTan Sesaxvedrad

movemzade (meris gvars da sa-

xels Segnebulad ar vasaxe-

leb, cota rom gagecinoT. To-

rem, ar ifiqroT, rom meSinia).

erTi xuTasi kacis mujlu-

guni rom miviRe gverdebSi da

Sadrevans ocjer davewafe

(xom giTxariT, Sadrevnebi

mravladaa), momiwia rigma. Se-

misroles oTaxSi. vxedav, sxe-

dan meri, erT-erTi ubnis de-

putati da samSvenisi (anu me-

ris Tanmxlebi gogona meriis

samsaxuridan). – daelodeT! –

miTxres da karTan avituze.

axalgazrda wyvili mers mie-

salma da dajda. simpaTiurebi

iyvnen. vifiqre, amaT raRa dae-

marTaT? oTaxi arc ise didia

da mesmis yvelaferi.

biWi, ase, 28 wlamdea, go-

go odnav patara. samsaxurs

iTxovdnen – yvelgan Sevitane

ganacxadi da ver davsaqmdio, -

ambobda biWi.

- Tu axalSeqmnili ojaxi

gaqvs, samsaxuri, ra Tqma unda,

aucilebelia. ganaTleba gaqvT?

- umaRlesi.

- meezoved waxval?

me im biWis saxe ar damina-

xavs, zurgiT isxdnen col-qma-

ri Cemsken, magram, etyoba, mer-

ma da misma Tanmxlebma pirebma

dainaxes kargad.

biWma mklavze xeli moavlo

meuRles da iseTi sityvebiT

daemSvidoba maaaRal sazoga-

doebas, mTeli cxovreba ZaR-

lis nakbeniviT emaxsovrebaT.

ki eria im sityvebSi erTi-ori,

ha-ha, sami uxamsoba, mara ise

uxdeboda, rogorc gemriel

kerZs marili.

mere Cemi droc movida. vi-

codi, azri ar hqonda Cems iq

misvlas. metireba, mrcxvenia,

mezizReba, xarxari minda, Tavi

miskdeba... yvelaferi erTad

mWirs.

gamarjoba! me meezoved ver

vimuSaveb! – vTqvi da davjeqi.

ara, davexeTqe.

asec moxda. meezoved ar

vmuSaob, magram sxvaganac rom

ver vmuSaob? arada, merma

(gvars da saxels Tqvens gasam-

xiaruleblad ar vambob,

cocxali TaviT), - yvelaferSi

gverdiT dagidgebiT, socia-

lur samsaxurebSi vakansiebia,

mobrZandiT, SeavseTo. nw, nw,

nw, es ra mogsvlia axalgazr-

da qalso.

aba, abao, - RreWia depu-

tatmac.

.. ise, codva gamxelili

sjobs da rom gamovedi, ki

mqonda cotaodeni imedi. isic

gamaxsenda, “oblis kveri

cxvao”. etyoba, es “gvian” ax-

la dadga, kveri Seibrawa da

meSvela-meTqi.

magram im buxarTan, sadac

Cemi kveri ido, etyoba, SiodaT

da Sebrawva da gamocxoba ki

ara, naxevrad umi gadasansles.

RmerTma SeargoT.

am wlebis manZilze TiTqmis

20-jer gamovicvale sacxovre-

beli bina. Tbilisis yvela

ubans sakuTari xelisguliviT

vicnob da Cemze magari Tbili-

seli kaciSvili ar meguleba

qveyanaze.

ho, xelisuflebac Seicva-

la amasobaSi kidev erTxel.

hoda, es kaci marTla moWirna-

xulea Tavisi da Cveni qveynis

da gveSvelebao. RmerTma qnas,

mec eg ar minda?

manamde ki viqnebi naxevrad

mSieri, naxevrad mwyurvali,

naxevrad adamiani, naxevrad

mcxovrebi da raRacebs davwer.

jer 33 wlis var, samsaxu-

ri minda, xalxo! kargi dedo-

ba minda! Cems qveyanaSi cxovre-

ba minda! siTbo minda! imedi

minda!

samsaxuri mindaaa!..

sada xarT? modiT, adamia-

nobaSi gagejibroT, niWiereba-

Si gagejibroT, erTgulebaSi

gagejibroT, qarTvelobaSi ga-

gejibroT!

gamaxsenda, Cveni moWirna-

xui-le rom kiTxulobda

“vefxistyaosnis” taeps: `iyo

arabeTs rostivan”, svel ked-

lebian rabaTSi idga mezRapre

... SadrevanTan. mec swored mi-

sTvis gavileqse, gaviSaire. Za-

lian metkina maSin misi usazR-

vro uniWoba, swored mas ve-

xumre Tu vemware. aq sityva

“gaveRlave” ufro moergeboda,

magram qarTveli var... mainc

qarTveli var da asi weli

qarTvelad davrCebi. asive we-

li ase rom gaWirvebaSi

vicxovro.

Seni Wiri me, saqarTvelo...

dideba, Senda!

fiqria axvlediani

variaciebi mo-Wir-naxu(i)-leebzeda Wir-naxulebze


`̀aavvaaddmmoossaaggoonnaarrii,,

mmiiTTiiuurrii~~ ddaa

uubbnneelleessii kkooddeeqqssii

61. Cven mzad unda viyoT, yo-

velgvar winaaRmdegobas davaxved-

roT omi imis winaaRmdeg, vinc win

aRudgeba Cvens miznebs.

62. politikaSi sityva ar un-

da eTanxmebodes diplomatis moq-

medebas. mTavrobebi unda vaiZuloT

gaiTvaliswinon `sazogadoebrivi

azri~. erTi sityviT, evropaSi Za-

lauflebis Sesamusravad erT-erTs

vaCvenebT Cvens Zalas teroris sa-

xiT. sxvebs ki, Tu gabedaven amxed-

rebas, vupasuxebT qvemexebiT.

63. Cveni mmarTveloba dafuZne-

buli unda iyos civilizebul Za-

lebze, unda Sedgebodes publi-

cistebisagan, iuristebisagan, admi-

nistratorebisagan, diplomatebi-

sagan da imaTgan, vinc ganswav-

luli iqneba Cven specialur sko-

lebSi.

64. Cvens xelisuflebas gars

SemovaxvevT ekonomistTa armias.

Cvens irgvliv Tavs moiyrian banki-

rebi, mrewvelebi, kapitalistebi

da, rac mTavaria, milionerebis

mTeli pleada.

65. Cveni principebis aRsrule-

bisas yuradReba miaqcieT im xalx-

Ta xasiaTs, vis qveyanaSic iqnebiT

da imoqmedebT. Tu maT frTxilad

gamoviyenebT, vnaxavT, rom aTeuli

wlis Semdeg yvelaze jiuti xasi-

aTic ki gamoicvleba da axal xal-

xsac CavricxavT damorCilebulTa

ricxvSi.

66. Cveni liberaluri parolis

sityvebs `Tavisufleba, Zmoba, Ta-

nasworoba~, gamefebis Semdeg Sevc-

vliT ideuri sityvebiT: `Tavisuf-

lebis samarTali, Tanasworobis

vali, Zmobis ideali~.

67. Tu romelime saxelmwifo

gamogvicxadebs protests, esec

Cveni miTiTebiT iqneba, radgan maTi

antisemitizmi gamogvadgeba Cveni

umcrosi Zmebis samarTavad.

68. me SemiZlia vTqva, rom

dRes Cven ukve kanonmdeblebi varT,

ganvagebT sasamarTlos da angariS-

sworebas, vsjiT da viwyalebT,

Cvens xelTaa odes-Rac Zlieri

partiebis namsxvrevebi. Cvens xel-

Taa mwveli sixarbe, daundobeli

Sepirispireba, boroti siZulvili,

yovelgvari terori. Cvens samsa-

xur-Sia sxvadasxva Sexedulebis

xalxi _ monarqiis restavratore-

bi, komunarebi, utopistebi... yvela

maTgani cdilobs daamxos dadgeni-

li wesi. aseTi moqmedebiT yvela

saxelmwifo wuxdeba da eZebs sim-

Svides. mzad arian _ mSvidobisaT-

vis yvelaferi gaiRon msxverplad,

magram... ar mivcemT mSvidobas manam,

sanam ar aRiareben Cvens internaci-

onalur ze mTavrobas aSkarad da

morCilad.

69. Cven SevexeT iurisdiqcias,

arCevnebis wesebs, presas, pirovne-

bis Tavisuflebas da rac mTavaria,

ganaTleba-aRzrdas, rogorc Cveni

Tavisufali yofis qvakuTxedebs.

Cven gavasuleleT, gavbangeT da

gavryveniT axalgazrdoba, CvenTvis

saWiro principebiT da TeoriebiT.

70. Cven araswori ganmartebe-

biT SevniRbeT kanonebi, ris Semde-

gac veRaraferi gauges am Cax-

larTul kanonmdeblobas, aqedan

gamomdinareobs sindisis sasamarT-

los Teoria.

71. mTavrobac da xalxic po-

litikaSi kmayofildebian moCvene-

biTobiT, maTTvis mTavaria mxiaru-

leba. es momenti unda gamoviyenoT.

es dagvexmareba sxvadasxva sakiTxe-

bis ganxilvaSi. magaliTad: sity-

vis, presis, religiis Tavisufle-

ba, asociaciis uflebebi, kanonis

uzenaesobis, sakuTrebis xelSeu-

xeblobis, sacxovreblis ga-

dasaxadebis sakiTxebi. roca saWi-

roa maTze laparaki, dawvrilebiT

ki ara, aramed zogadad unda ganvi-

xiloT.

72. xalxi gansakuTrebuli siy-

varuliT epyroba politikosebs.

gadawyvetili gvaqvs, yvela eri

CavrToT Cvens mier daproeqtebul,

axali fundamentaluri Senobis

mSeneblobaSi. ai, risTvis gvWirde-

ba gabeduleba da sulis siZliere.

73. roca movaxdenT saxelmwi-

fo gadatrialebas, xalxs vetyviT:

yvelaferi cudad iyo, yvela itan-

jeboda. Cven aRmovfxvriT Tqveni

tanjvis mizezs, erovnul Tavisuf-

lebas, sazRvrebs, fulis niSnis

sxvadasxvaobas.

74. saWiroa _ yvela, ganurCev-

lad klasisa da cenzisa, miviyva-

noT arCevnebze, raTa mivaRwioT

umravlesobis absolutizacias.

75. Cven davaqveiTebT ojaxebis

mniSvnelobas da maT aRmzrdelo-

biT mizans. brbo mogvismens mxo-

lod Cven, radgan vuxdiT morCi-

lebisaTvis. xalxi daemorCileba am

reJims, radgan icis, rom mis li-

derebzea damokidebuli anazRaure-

ba da yovelgvari sikeTe.

76. roca saxelmwifo organiz-

mSi SeviyvaneT liberalizmis Sxa-

mi, mTeli misi politikuri ko-

mpleqcia Seicvala. igi daavadda

saxelmwifo avadmyofobiT _ sisx-

lis daSliT. isRa dagvrCa, dave-

lodoT agonias.

77. liberalizmisgan iSva kon-

stituciuri saxelmwifo, romel-

mac Secvala mxsneli TviTmpyro-

beloba, konstitucia ki, rogorc

viciT, ganxeTqilebis, uTanxmoebis,

kamaTis, unayofo partiuli agita-

ciis, partiuli tendenciis sko-

laa.

78. unda wamovativtivoT pre-

zidentobis iseTi kandidatebi,

romlebsac warsulSi hqondaT ra-

ime bneli, gauxsneli danaSauli.

maSin isini erTgulad mogvemsaxu-

rebian jer erTi _ mxilebis Si-

SiT, meorec _ privilegiebis, upi-

ratesobis, pativis SenarCunebis

surviliT.

79. deputatebi airCeven da da-

icaven prezidents, Tumca mas wa-

varTmevT kanonTa SemoTavazebis an

Secvlis uflebas da gadavcemT,

davubrunebT im SemTxvevaSi, Tu

Cveni marioneti iqneba. am SemTx-

vevaSi prezidentis Zalaufleba

gaxdeba samizne yovelgvari Tavdas-

xmisaTvis, magram mivcemT Tav-

dacvis uflebas xalxisadmi mimar-

Tvis saxiT. garda amisa, prezi-

dents aRvWurvavT samxedro Seia-

raRebiT, sagangebo mdgomareobis

gamocxadebis uflebiT. mas armia

unda hyavdes, raTa daicvas axali

respublikuri konstitucia.

80. prezidentqze iqneba damo-

kidebuli palatisa da senatis, vi-

ce-prezidentis daniSvna. parlamen-

tis mudmiv sesiebs SevamcirebT

ramdenime Tvemde. garda amisa, pre-

zidents, rogorc aRmasrulebeli

xelisuflebis meTaurs, ufleba

eqneba parlamentis Sekrebisa da

daTxovnisa. daTxovnis SemTxvevaSi

igi gaaWianurebs dros axali par-

lamentis arCevnebis daniSvnamde,

magram yvela ukanono qmedebisaTvis

prezidents pasuxi ar unda moe-

kiTxos. garda amisa, prezidents

ufleba eniWeba wamoayenos droebi-

Ti kanonebi da Secvalos saxelm-

wifo konstitucia qveynis umaR-

lesi sikeTis motivebiT.

81. Cveni TviTmpyrobelobis

aRiareba moxdeba maSin, roca uwes-

rigobiT da mmarTvelTa despo-

tizmiT datanjuli xalxi iyvi-

rebs: mogvaSoreT eseni da mogve-

ciT erTi, sayovelTao mefe, rome-

lic gagvaerTianebs da mospobs

uTanxmoebis mizezebs _ sazRvrebs,

erovnulobas, religias, mogvcems

mSvidobas, romelic ver vpoveT

Cvens mmarTvelobaSi... xalxi unda

gadaiRalos gaTiSulobiT, mtro-

biT, brZoliT, siZulviliT, tanj-

viT, SimSiliT. amis Semdgom sxva

gamosavali ar eqnebaT, garda Cveni

daxmarebisa.

82. presisa da sindisis Tavi-

sufleba unda gahqres adamianuri

repertuaridan, an ZirSive unda

Seicvalos axali konstituciis

gamoqveynebisTanave da mxolod am

dros SeiZleba yvela gada-

wyvetilebis gamocxadeba.

83. RmerTma Cven, rCeuli xal-

xi, dagvajildova ganbneulobiT da

sxvis TvalSi am sisusteSi aris

mTeli Cveni Zala, romelmac mig-

viyvana msoflio meufis karibWem-

de. cotac da male Senobas aRvmar-

TavT Cayril saZirkvelze.

84. presa Cven gvexmareba Cven-

Tvis sasurveli vnebebis gaRviveba-

Si sinamdvileSi igi usamarTlo da

crua. xalxi ver gebulobs, ra

funqcia ekisreba.

85. xalxi msoflio movlenebs

unda uyurebdes im feradi minebiT,

romelic Cven avafareT Tvalebze.

86. yvela liberali arsSi

anarqistia Tu saqmiT ara, fiqriT

mainc. TiToeuli maTgani misdevs

Tavisuflebis aCrdils da vardeba

TavnebobaSi e.i. protestis anarqi-

aSi.

87. literatura da Jurnalis-

tika _ ori umniSvnelovanesi aRm-

zrdelobiTi Zalaa. amitomac, Cve-

ni mTavroba unda gaxdes Jurna-

listTa umetesobis mesakuTre.

amiT ganeitraldeba damoukidebe-

li, kerZo presis saziano moqmede-

ba. Cvens mier daarsebuli Jurnal-

gazeTebi iseTi urTierTsawinaaRm-

dego iqneba, rom ndobiT ganawyobs

mkiTxvels.

88. Cveni gazeTebi iqneba sxva-

dasxvagvari mimarTulebis: aris-

tokratiuli, respublikuri, rev-

oluciuri, anarqiuli da zeparti-

ulic ki... sanam, ra Tqma unda, iar-

sebebs konstitucia.

89. briyvebi, romlebic ifiqre-

ben, rom imeoreben TavianTi parti-

is an momxre banakis mesveurTa az-

rebs, sinamdvileSi gaiziareben

Cvens Sexedulebebs.

90. frangul JurnalistikaSi

ukve arsebobs solidaroba parol-

Si. presis da beWdvis yvela orga-

no dakavSirebulia erTmaneTTan

profesiuli saidumloebiT, rasac

arc erTi misi wevri ar gascems.

veravin, verc erTi Jurnalisti

ver gabedavs saidumlos gamJRavne-

bas, radgan CvenTvis Tavidanve cno-

bili iyo maTi raRaca samarcxvino

warsuli.

91. xalxis rigebidan Cvens mi-

er ayvanili agentebi, Cvenive brZa-

nebiT, presaSi gamoaqveyneben iseT

statiebs, romlebsac oficialur

gamocemebSi ver gamovaqveynebT.

azrTa gacvla-gamocvlis aJio-

taJSi aRvasrulebT gegmebs da

publikasTan mivitanT ukve momx-

dar faqtebs. amasobaSi presa

axal sakiTxebs miapyrobs xalxis

yuradRebas da am sakiTxebis gan-

xilvas daiwyebs is ugunuri xal-

xi, romelic verasodes xvdeba,

Tu ris Sesaxeb kamaTobs. politi-

kuri sakiTxebi aravisTvis ar

aris gasagebi, garda misi xelmZR-

vanelisa.

92. mSfoTvare, xalxis poli-

tikidan CamoSorebisaTvis win wa-

movwevT mrewvelobis sakiTxebs. am

sarbielze Tundac dauxociaT er-

TmaneTi. sanam moifiqreben raime

samuSaos, Cven maT movizidavT gar-

TobiT, TamaSiT, vnebebiT, saxalxo

saxlebiT... presis meoxebiT SevTa-

vazebT sakonkurso Sejibrebebs xe-

lovnebaSi da sportis yvela saxe-

obaSi. Semdeg maT interesebs miv-

marTavT axali da fantastikuri

Teoriebis mosafiqreblad.

93. Cven xalxebs Tavs movaxvi-

eT progresis idea da veravin ve-

rasodes mixvdeba, rom amaSi imale-

ba WeSmaritebidan gadaxveva, rame-

Tu WeSmariteba erTia da masSi

progresi ar arsebobs. progresi

yalbi ideaa da emsaxureba WeSmari-

tebis daCrdilvas. roca gavimarj-

vebT, maSin vinRa daeWvdeba, rom

yvela problema Cveni wamoWrili

iyo?

94. roca gavmefdebiT Cven ar

dagvWirdeba sxva religiis arsebo-

ba. Cven unda movspoT yovelgvari

rwmena. aTeistebi, droebiT sulac

ar gviSlian xels. maTSi davTesT

iseT siZulvils, rom xalxi ir-

Cevs simSvides TviT batonymur

mdgomareobaSi. yelSi amouvaT yba-

daRebuli Tavisufleba, xelisuf-

lebaTa usargeblo cvla, riTac

vaqezebdiT maTi saxelmwifoebrivi

wyobis Ziris gamosaTxrelad. yove-

live ise mobezrdebaT, rom arCeven

Cvengan aitanon yvelaferi, oRond

aRar mouxdeT mRelvarebis da ga-

saWiris atana.

95. ganviTarebul mowinave

qveynebSi SevqmniT saSinel, bilw,

amazrzen literaturas, xelisu-

flebis xelSi CagdebisTanave movi-

wonebT maT arsebobas.

96. Cven gavmefdebiT mTel

msoflioSi erTsa da imave dros

momxdari saxelmwifo gadatri-

alebebis saSualebiT. yvelas dav-

xocavT, vinc SegvewinaaRmdegeba.

sikvdiliT daisjeba yvela sai-

dumlo sazogadoeba, romelic ki

gaCndeba, xolo ukve CvenTvis cno-

bilebs gadavasaxlebT evropidan

Sors.

97. sazogadoebaSi, sadac Cven

davTeseT uamravi ganxTeqileba da

protestantizmi, wesrigis damya-

reba SeiZleba mxolod daundobe-

li RonisZiebebiT.

98. msoflioSi Cveni udidesi

da erTaderTi, seriozuli mteri

bolo dromde iyo ruseTis TviT-

mpyrobeloba.

99. unda gavamravloT franko-

masonuri loJebi msoflios yvela

qveyanaSi. unda CaviTrioT yvela

Zlieri da cnobili moRvawe. lo-

Jebs eyolebaT TavianTi warmomad-

geneli, romelsac ecodineba paro-

li da programa. aq iqnebian yvela

revoluciuri da liberaluri

elementi.

100. policia Cvens gegmebSi

Seucvlelia. mas SeuZlia SeniR-

bos Cveni saqmianoba, gauswordes

daumorCileblebs da a.S.

101. Cvens saidumlo sazogado-

ebebSi Tavs vuyriT aferistebs, ka-

rieristebs, qarafSutebs, rom-

lebTanac Zalian advilia muSaoba

da romlebic amuSaveben Cvens mier

daproeqtebuli manqanis meqanizmebs.

102. Tu msoflio mRelvareba

daiwyeba, es iqneba niSani imisa,

rom Cveni surviliTaa es movle-

nebi.

(gagrZeleba Semdeg nomerSi)

mware gakveTilebievroamerika, ruseTi da saqarTvelo

ciklidan: omi bneleTTan _ ricxvi misi 666

jemal davlianiZe

gagrZeleba. dasawyisi ix.

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ris mTavrobis Tavmjdomared ga-

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mTavrobis mier, rom saqarTve-

los rkinigza da aramarto rki-

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mZime pirobebSi Caayena saqarTve-

los rkinigza, Cveni qveynis mTe-

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zogierTi gaiyida kidec, zogier-

Tis gayidva ver moaswres, visac

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Sauli aqvs Cadenili, is xalxi

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rovnebis yvela Tvisebis CamoTv-

la namdvilad gamiWirdeba, mag-

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politikaSi mosvla patriotiz-

misa da samSoblos siyvaruliT.

ar damaviwydeba arasodes,

rogor idga baton biZinas gver-

diT mitingze misi Svili bera

da amxnevebda ara marto sakuTar

mamas, aramed mTel sazogadoebas

sakuTari leqsebiT, musikiT es

uniWieresi axalgazrda kaci.

cremlebs ver vikavebdi ara mar-

to me, aramed Cems gverdiT

mdgomi zRva xalxi.

baton biZina ivaniSvilze da

mis ojaxze bevri saintereso da-

iwereba da es unda icodes yve-

la qarTvelma da araqarTvelma.

dRes xSirad gaigonebT aseT

kiTxvas sazogadoebaSi, ram aiZu-

la biZina, mosuliyo xelisuf-

lebaSi – es yvelafriT uzrun-

velyofili msoflios erT-erTi

umdidresi adamiani aseT rTul

periodSi, roca qveyana udides

gaWirvebas ganicdis yvelanairad

da rTuli iqneba misi gamoyvana

am mdgomareobidan?

batoni biZina am kiTxvas mar-

tivad pasuxobs – samSoblo me-

Rupeboda da Cemi qarTuli miwis

yivilma, qveynis siyvarulma ga-

damawyvetinao. verafers ityvi,

baraqala, Tqven, batono biZina,

aseTi TavganwirvisTvis.

me vsvam kiTxvas da vpasuxob

kidec: bevria aseTi SemTxveva sa-

qarTvelos istoriaSi? ra Tqma

unda, ara. sisxliT, xorciT,

ojaxiT, tradiciebiT sufTa

qristiani kqarTveli kaci udgas

dRes Cvens qveyanas saTaveSi.

nacionalebo, Tqven ar iciT

qarTveli xalxis moTxovna da

ar gindaT gaigoT, rom im dana-

Saulebriv sqemas, romelsac na-

cionaluri moZraoba awarmoebda

9 wlis ganmavlobaSi, bolo

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is gadarCena ise ver moxdeba,

rogorc mkvdari ver gacocxl-

deba, ramdeni welic unda gavi-

des, visac saxelmwifo danaSau-

li aqvs Cadenili yvelam pasuxi

unda agos.

revaz baramiZessaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ddaammssaaxxuurreebbuullii

eekkoonnoommiissttii,, ssaappaattiioo

rrkkiinniiggzzeellii,, ddaarrggiiss

ddaammssaaxxuurreebbuullii mmuuSSaakkii,,

ssaaqqaarrTTvveellooss ssaappaattrriiaarrqqooss ddaarr-

bbaazziiss ggaammggeeoobbiiss wweevvrrii,,

SSrroommiiss oorrddeenniiss kkaavvaalleerrii

nacionaluri moZraoba damnaSaved

unda gamocxaddes

saqarTvelos mweralTa ka-

vSiri mwuxarebiT iuwyeba, rom

gardaicvala mwerali

grigol ruxaiada samZimars ucxadebs gans-

venebulis ojaxs.

`saerTo gazeTi~ Rrma mwuxa-

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C M Y K

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Cukenobas moeSvaso, - Tqva

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mteris statusi mouxde-

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_ gulwrfelad ikiTxa

erTma ministrma qalba-

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dasxva RonisZiebebze.

`Zlevai sakvirveli~

Tu hqmna mefeman daviT,

amaT, am `nacionalebma~

`nZrevai sakvirveli~, anu

Cukenobai sakvirveli

hqmnes da Sinaurni Tu ga-

reulni friad gaakvirves.

mTavari Cukenisti rom

dascxebda da dascxebda,

Tanagundeli Cukenistebic

egreve miubanebdnen da iyo

erTi gniasi da aliaqoTi.

`Cveuleba rjulze um-

tkicesiao~, _ naTqvamia.

`nacebi~ arCevnebSi sasti-

kad damarcxdnen, reitin-

gic xom dauvardaT da da-

uvardaT, magram Cukenobas

mainc ver eSvebian da _

Cven davbrundebiT, Cven

davbrundebiT-o, _ gahyvi-

rian.

egremc Tqven ar agid-

gaT, Tqve marTla Cukenis-

tebo, gverdebi!

...rac Seexeba gigilos,

gaxsovT, albaT, man am

oriode wlis winaT rom

Tqva: _ qveyanas gaumjobe-

sebuli miSa sWirdebao.

rogorc Cans, gigim ga-

dawyvita, raRa sxva, me

TviTon viqnebi gaumjobe-

sebuli miSao da `gaum-

jobesda~ kidec _ iseTi

leqsikiT daiwyo `blata-

oba~, miSa imasTan ras mo-

va.

xumroba iqiTiyos da ise marT-la xom ar sjobs,droze davamTav-roT am `nacebTan~koabitaciuri Cu-kenoba da erTiZveleburad, mama-papurad mivaCuke-noT?

saqarTvelos natoSi da ev-

rostruqturebSi gawevrianebis

sakiTxi lamis aris saanekdoto

Temad iqces.

anekdoti ar aris, aba, raa,

roca `nacionalebi~ mTeli seri-

ozulobiT mogviwodeben, konsti-

tuciaSi CavweroT, rom saqarT-

velo arasodes gadauxvevs na-

tosken mimaval gzas da mxolod

da mxolod natoSi gawevriande-

ba.

ki, batono, CavweroT es yve-

laferi konstituciaSi da barem

sakvirao locvebSic SevitanoT.

_ saqarTvelo mxolod nato-

Si gawevriandeba da sxvagan ar-

sad. es gadawyvetileba sabo-

looa aw da maradis da ukuniTi

ukunisamdeee! _ waumRerebs mamao

da mrevlic dasturs miscems _

amiiin!

_ vinc uRalatos natosa,

warwymdes da SeCvendes, _ gaar-

gZelebs mamao da mrevli isev _

amiins daagugunebs.

kargi iqneba, natos Temas sko-

lebSic Tu SevitanT da qarTvel

bavSvebs dawyebiT klasebSive Ca-

vuWedavT gonebaSi, rom

saqarTvelo arasodes,

arasodes, arasodes ga-

dauxvevs istoriul

arCevans.

_ aba, bavSvebo,

TqviT, sad unda gawev-

riandes saqarTvelo? _

ikiTxavs maswavlebeli.

_ na-to-Si! na-to-

Si! _ dascxeben yiJinas

bavSvebi.

dro gava, es bavSve-

bi gaizrdebian, dao-

jaxdebian, bavSvebi ga-

uCndebaT da axla isini

gaimeoreben sayvareli

mSoblebis sayvarel

sityvas.

mere es bavSvebic gaizrdebian

da maTi bavSvebic maswavleblis

SekiTxvaze, Tu sad unda gawev-

riandes saqarTvelo, igive pa-

suxs gascemen, rasac maTi dede-

bi, mamebi, bebiebi da babuebi

scemdnen: _ na-to-Si!

amasobaSi SeiZleba bevri ram

Seicvalos maradcvalebad am sam-

yaroSi da ar aris gamoricxuli,

natoc daiSalos, magram Cven ma-

inc jiutad vivliT im ukve

ararsebuli natosken, radgan

konstituciaSi ase gviweria da

radgan aseTi samudamo valdebu-

leba gvaqvs aRebuli ukuniTi

ukunisamde.

dabolos, axla ukveseriozulad _ saqarT-velos axali xelisuf-leba, koalicia `qarTu-li ocnebis~ saparla-mento umravlesoba ar-aviTar SemTxvevaSi arunda ahyves `nacionale-bis~ mier Semogdebul amdemagogias, am mzakv-rul provokacias, ampolitikur prostitu-cias da spekulacias,radgan aravis aqvs uf-leba valdebulebaTaborkili daados qveya-nas, ase Seborkili amyo-fos gaurkvevel situa-ciaSi gaurkveveli va-diT da politikur si-tuaciaTa da garemoeba-Ta cvlilebis SemTxve-vaSi waarTvas saxelm-wifoebrivi interesebi-dan gamomdinare axaliarCevanis ufleba.

vinc uRalatos natosa...

`nacmoZraoba~ da Cukenobai sakvirveli

`ar vapireb qutaissi casvlas da saakasvilis gamosvlaze...

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