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ASUCD SENATE AGENDAUNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA, DAVIS

6:10, Mee RoomJanuary 20, 2011

I. Call to Order

Meeting is called to order at 6:10 PM.

II. Quorum Roll Call

III. Presentations

Daniel: I came to talk about the new display cases that senator lee had moved down because SGAO will be in charge of maintaining those. This is our really advanced sophisticated mockup of what we’re going to put in those display cases. We’re going to have six different categories, by the way everything I’m saying is up for discussion. If you have any questions, feel free to come into SGAO. One board will be dedicated to job listings the second half will be for legislation of the week, whatever’s going through senate that week and we’ll put it up piece by piece. The second board will be devoted to upcoming events and second half of this board will be divided into three portions, only the bottom will change to let people know how we work as an organization and there will be a description. The bottom part that will change is the roster with email contacts in case students have questions they don’t have to scout us down. Right now, those are the six categories and special breakdown. Like I said, this isn’t set in stone, SGAO will be in charge of managing that. We haven’t figured out if it will be updating daily or weekly because of paper. Other than that though it’s pretty self explanatory. Any questions or comments?

Bush: Hi, I have no questions or comments but I do have a question about the payroll thing still though.

Daniel: Sorry I don’t know why you get those emails because it’s been my job, the director, so I do that, don’t worry I take care of that. It’s literally as easy as checking a box.

Chen: Thanks for bringing up the thing about the paper for the board. Personally I think we should not do that for example, the unitrans line is twelve pages so if we printed that out each time, it’d be a lot of paper. I agree with what you said, the corrections don’t come back in a flurry of corrections, so yeah.

Lee: So we discussed the long range plans for legislation. long range plans are pretty long so we want to balance out and I think typical legislation not long range plans will be put up so passersby can read what they’re interested in and go to what meeting if they want to speak on it. The whole purpose besides updating everyone is to also see if anyone has any suggestions of what they want put. I would really like to see that on the boards downstairs but as far as anymore ideas to get us as transparent as possible, this is a very small way but it’s a high traffic area that people will be stopping by.

Tanner: I just want to feel out is there anything anyone wanted to say? So I’m going to move into appointments and confirmations.

IV. Status of Legislation Previously Passed

V. Introduction of New Legislation

Authored by: ESPINOCo-authored by: Arce, TannerIntroduced by: TannerReferred to: B&F

An ASUCD Senate Bill to allocate $xxx.xx from Capital Reserves to purchase one high-output copy

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machine for Campus Copies.

VI. Public Discussion

VII. Public Announcements

VIII. Approval of Past Meeting Minutes

IX. Appointments and ConfirmationsA. EAC

Percoco: Both of them have served on the commission before and I look forward to working with them again.

Tanner: Could you please describe for us some of the projects you’ve worked on in the past in EAC?

Travis: The main thing I worked on last quarter was the Causeway Classic and I specialized in marketing. I went downtown, put on posters and talked to shop owners to know how they felt about us and the vibe was mainly positive so that’s something we should foster. Most of the time they don’t’ know what’s going on, so we should continue that.

Lirio: I went with him downtown to talk to the shop owners and I got the same vibe, it was a very positive event and I was apart of it as well. I was at the, it was really hard, but I was at the door trying to get people to participate in the giveaways and as of right now, we’re working on Dana’s high school leadership conference so that’s what we’re focusing on as of currently.

B. ECAC

Montelongo: I urge for a speedy confirmation they actually have great ideas.

Romero: I would love to hear about your awesome ideas you have.

Anna: An idea that we will be working on in the ECAC is admissions of 2012, I don’t know if some of you know but admission policy is changing so that SATs are going to be optional. That affects students of color and low income which is they may or may not receive waivers which makes them last competitive for UCs so we’ll be taking a three pronged approach, spreading awareness among college and high school students so the details of that will be discussed in other meetings if you all are interested.

Duaa: Originally, I joined ECAC because I’ve seen a lot of, I’m apart of a lot of organizations and I don’t feel there’s enough incorporation with every organization so I just want to incorporate all the organizations together and the misconceptions around MECHA community.

Bush: I very much like the idea you have and I have a lot of research already done on the demographic changes so I would very much appreciate your emails to take a look at that.

C. AACShaikh: I think she would be a great addition to my commission, so trust my judgment and I urge for a speedy confirmation.

Sterling: You wanted to work with students with not being just numbers on campus, how would you go about improving that?

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Annemarie: My mom is a professor at SF state and she always told me to get to know the faculty and staff and get involved with organizations so that’s my step getting involved but there were events put on last quarter to get to know the faculty, and not many people know you can work as research assistants, so just being able to find those resources on campus more easily and make it more visible to students who don’t know already.

D. IAC

Montelongo: She is hella competent and hella down. I urge for a speedy confirmation.

Ekhator: What is the most important project you worked on last year?

Andrea: Working with Sergio on the long-range plan and starting the whole earth festival long range plan which I need to finish but those are the most prominent that stick out.

Tanner: I just wanted to say I really appreciated all your help in the past I yield.

Andrea: My favorite one is the one that allows the alternating talk between the members of the public and table because it’s important for the public to be able to speak their mind.

X. Unit Director Reports

A. Picnic Day

X. Ex-Officio Reports A. Commission Chairs

Montelongo: commission meeting and office hours

Martin: commission meeting and office hours

Hein:

Percoco:  I turned 21 on Monday. We hired three alternates for EAC. I sat in on EPPC interviews. I went to Student Police Relations meeting. The event for April 15th is still happening. Safe Boats raised $600 dollars at Greek Awards Night. Previn is going to be the driver. Mark Champagne is working on the contract with the boat. We still need $1000 more dollars for Safe Boats. We started planning other events. Buy wristbands! Music on the green is May 22nd. We got the results back for the best time to have an event and students to go to it. We are still looking for headliners. I presented EAC to outreach assembly. We gave $25 to Calpirg for their Haiti event.

Shaikh:  Monday- Office hours from 5-7. Held meeting. Had Dean Burtis from the College of Bio Sci come to speak to the commission abt the Course Materials Fee. Tuesday- Wednesday- Office Hours 2-4. Held interviews 2:30- 4:30. Will not be hiring any of them. One was a no show. Submitted to creative media a request for a logo and a banner. Emailed Christine about the CMF. Thursday- Senate Meeting 

B. Outreach Assembly Speaker

Dias:

C. ASUCD Controller

Chen: I went to B&F on Tuesday, participated in Human Trafficking Demonstration on Wednesday. Senator Romero also participated INC meeting tomorrow at 9 AM in the AMC Room. Project Forum beta has started—make some posts and share your ideas for its

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development

XI. Elected Officer Reports A. President

B. Vice President

Witana:

C. ASUCD SenatorsSterling: Office hours, in touch with UofO for SafeBoat, probably won’t be able to collaborate though, made a timeline for Safe Boat progress, scheduled a meeting with Mark Champagn for Safe Boat, scheduled a meeting for collaborative Picnic Day work with GASC and ECAC

Thongsavat:

Provencher:

Moosavi: -Attended IAC (saw ch.17)-Attended IAC Chair Interviews-Held Office Hours-Had EPPC Meeting-Attended EAC Interviews-Held EPPC Interviews-Launched EPPC Art Show at Basement Gallery; Reception @6pm-8pm Thursday 3/11-Wrote 30 pgs within the last week (been busy with papers) 

Arce: Held office hours from 11a-12noon

Contacted the city of Davis for a vacant position on their Safety and Parking Advisory commission because I wanted to present to them the issue of the intersection of California and Russell. However, I found out it’s a four year term/commitment. For that reason, I will just present to the board at their next meeting on April 1st.

Tuesday:

Held office hours from 11a-1p

Attended the legislation workshop (thank you Amy & Internal Affairs Commission).

Attended External Affairs Commission meeting

Wednesday:

Interview panel for External Affairs Commission (they accepted three alternates)

Met Davis city councilmen Lamar Heystek and briefly discussed the intersection on California and Russell.

Thursday:

Held office hours on the quad from 11:30a-1:30p

Contact with Geoff Straw, from Unitras, who also sits on the Safety and Parking Advisory committee. He will be my liaison between the city and University contact in regards to the

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intersection on California and Russell.

Tanner:

Ekhator:

Walz: worked on ChemWiki, met with a professor and set up more meetings, met with one of my interns and attended GASC with her, I saw two bills go through two commissions this week, GASC and B&F, I’m applying for the summer UCDC Washington program and am really excited about getting an internship in Washington D.C.

Diaz-Ordaz: worked with gender soliloqueers, prepped for gender awareness week, held office hours

Lee: Friday: went to INC and discussed Tipsy Taxi, Wednesday: office hours met with Samantha from campus environment, Tuesday night: attended EPPC to discuss Tipsy Taxi bill

Romero: womyn’s leadership conference, continued work on letter for parents, volunteered at Human Trafficking Demontration, office hours WR 8-10am

XII. New Student Court Cases/Prior Weeks Verdicts/ASUCD Court Announcements

XIII. Consideration of Old LegislationA. SB #23 Thongsavat

Thongsavat: As you know, Liz and I sit on URSAC from that committee but this table and six chairs will be placef din the student government room and it just gives us more leeway and professional meetings outside senate meetings. B&F did a wonderful job finding a much lower quote.

Walz: I’m just so happy and so far everyone is in agreement with the quality and price of the chairs. I think we’re all really excited to have our own student government meeting room.

Hein: So we saw this bill and did a lot of research, Adam and Liz came to our commission multiple times. We got the bill down from $1,165 to around $500 so we almost cut it in half. My commissioners did a really good job weighing quality vs. price so I encourage all of you to come to us beforehand on spending bills.

Romero: I like this bill, but are there quotes I can see? Because if not, I’m not comfortable passing this bill at all.

Cano: In the bylaws, we’re required to have quotes before considering a spending bill.

Hein: We do have quotes, I attached them when I turned them into SGAO and thought they would attach it here, but they didn’t. I think this is a good way to spend our money, yield.

Montelongo: Thank you, I jut wanted to say that this is pretty fantastic and I’m impressed. Props to making it happen. But I have a wuestion, can we use this for commission hiring? Yes? Fantastic.

Chen: I like this bill a lot, thank you Senator Walz and Thongsavat. I just wanted to clarify what we passed was for the former Coho cashroom a place where all ASUCD bodies could have meetings.

Walz: There should be quotes, they’re coming. We did a whole presentation. Jared Hein will pass it around and anyone who wants to look at it should look at it! A whole lot of people have been looking to find the best deal for it so yeah.

Hein: It’s all on the same presentation, the table is the first slide but I’m passing around the chairs.

Walz: I also do want to clarify this is a student government and there’s a section Adam and I talk about why we wanted to make this room and why it was especially crucial for the Senate.

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Tanner: I noticed in the presentation the price of the chairs is $230.94 then later is rounded to $230.90, why? Has everyone been able to see the quotes? I’m going to motion to call this bill to question.

B. SB #24 Maemura

Chen: I also love Tipsy Taxi, Sebastian is a great director.

Percoco: We also unanimously passed this and liked section 5.

Hein: We looked at this, really liked it, passed unanimously and hope you look at it thoroughly before you decide.

Tanner: I don’t think I’m necessarily the best person to speak to this however in light of recent events that have occurred in davis, I think it’s really important that we take the time to really refocus our efforts as a senate table to supporting this unit in particular not as an issue of promoting or condoning student drinking and partying butencouraging safety among our students.

Ekhator: As you all know I missed last weeks meeting because I was still in Berkeley attending a funeral of a good friend of mine due to drunk driving. Like Alison said, we should refocus in some tangible way more of an effort to minimize drunk student driving. Every student should know about this service whether it’s some sort of initiative and make it a hot topic and put it on the forefront. Every student should know about this.

Tanner: I know there is talk of expanding the fleet for STS, I know a lot of people are very concerned with the strugglest hat come with calling Tipsy Taxi. A hoard of drunks will swarm and Tipsy Taxi has to run away because it’s just a herd of drunks. But we have to ensure students getting home safe so the best way is to provide resources.

Belser: As far as getting the info out there, creative media has been drafting new posters that will be put up, I’ve been hosting meetings and we appreciate any support given to us by this body.

Lee: It’s been determing that a mobile app, we’re aiming for using the website to be mobile friendly so it’s basically like an app. The point is is that section 4 is irrelevant, or inaccurate now with what’s happening in the future plans so I’d like to motion to amend and strike lines 114-120 and renumber 5 to 4, 6 to 5, 7 to 6. Sebastion ahs been doing a great job doing more than what he said he would do so I just wanted to give credit to where credit is due.

C. SB #25 CanoMartin: Well, they passed it before I was chair and since Sergio was the former chair and author, I have faith in it.

Quinn: Yeah, it looked good to us. Nothing really stood out to us I don’t know when edits will take place but my name didn’t make it to the yes list so if you could add that.

Hein: We said yes unanimously so yes, I hope this bill passes.

In FTA limited our ability to provide charters which limits STS’ budget. It was a change by Bush and we’d love to get a resolution by Davis to get it back to the way it was and submit it in. For example, frats and sororities were a big part of us, we’d provide a charter for 250 bucks and the big companies would do it for 700.

Chen: I’d just like to commend everyone, especially Mr. Straw along with the various authors and co-authors. You all do a great job, I love the bus I take it every day.

D. SB #28 Cano

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Cano: This is a very old bill, it was originally written during budget hearings because Controller Chen had issues with it but I believe they were hashed out, we’ll see if they were. I did take into consideration a concern that was brought by Chair Percoco last wquarter about requiring chairs to be there or not, I don’t think so except B&F Chair so that’s all I have. It’s basically a better format, you can find things better. That’s basically new content and I fixed the language for most of it I’m pretty sure there’s some that’s wrong. we’ll see who finds it, it’s like a scavenger hunt.

Martin: We essentially passed it unanimously, Controller Chen was not at the meeting, but it was to our understanding that he approved of it.

Hein: We looked at this bill and I think one of the main things was that we wanted to give chairs the ability yo speak just because I know how it is being a chair on this table for budget hearings which should be the same, yield.

Moosavi: I think this is fantastic and just being a member of the chair I have a lot to say during budget hearings so now there’s more of a reason for chairs to be there. It’s pretty straightforward and we all have things to do so let’s move quickly.

Tanner: I actually agree with Moosavi that they should be at the table during all of them because I think that particularly EPPC, there really are issues related to all of them. I want the opinion of all the chairs I think they’re smart people so I’d personally like to make those amendments but I want to get fancy with it and divide the houses, realsies.

Romero: Would they be there for the entire budget hearing?

Martin: Point of order: they would’ve needed 7 yes votes to pass so with only 6 votes, it did not pass.

Walz: I’m pondering do ex-officio members have the same speaking privileges as normal members? So yes, if chairs are ex-officio members, then they should have the privilege to keep it consistent.

Cano: If you would want them to be ex-officio members for the entire time, you’d have to delete C. It takes away our status a little bit, rather than giving us something. They’re very important because they just pop in. That’s the opinion Percoco voiced which is why I withdrew it. I think chairs should have equal speaking power during the student government budget, we can talk whenever we want for longer pierods of time especially for budget hearings, the list gets really long. Which is why I made three lists! Because the managing team could clear things up more quickly. I think as is is the best option. When I was AC Chair, I didn’t want to be on the ex-officio list because they never get to talk but every so often the chair would pop in when they get behind schedule as members of the public because you can shut them up. If I wanted them to be members of the public you could move to senate discussion and they wouldn’t be able to talk about the topic which is sort of what they were talking about with GASC.

Moosavi: I think it’ll overcomplicate things if we open it up to everything so I would take it back and not vote for it.

Cano: As is is fine because it’s less complicated and I yield.

Lee: I think that to clarify, we’re debating whether to give ex-officio status to speak? Budget hearings take a really long time the status quo has been to have chairs act as members of the public except for B&F for obvious reasons. Honestly, yeah we could codify it. if someone were to do that, there wouldn’t be the votes to move into senate discussion. It’s symbolic. It’s better to increase the time and if I remember correctly, though the GASC chair did ask why ex-officio doesn’t have power. I’m open to any amendments, my memory is bad from that time of year.

Tanner: I agree your memory is bad because we did shut out the public a few times. I’m not going to push it because I’m cool. I’m ready to vote now.

Moosavi: I agree with everything you said except the shutting out because I was shut out along with others.

Lee: Huh, interesting. Do we have any outstanding issues to address?

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Witana: Just to clarify, a lot of the issues to effectively shutting out the public involves planning. We need to make sure we have adequate time to reach every bill. The main reason why I’d agree with Cano is that if you’re members of the public you have twice as much speaking time as the table.

E. SB #32 Chen

Chen: We will be striking one of the coordinator positions in this bill so right now the salary is split into two $35 a week positions so what we’ll be doing is taking out the second one and replacing it with a $35 stifing position because the director of EC has said that the design manager capably handles a lot that publicity. Keep in mind we don’t have to spend any money from our reserves to take care of the EC.

Hein: We talked about this with Joey and thinks it’s a good idea and hope you guys pass it.

Cano: I’m glad that this is in a bill form, last time we amended the ASUCD bill budget with motions to amend line items. So I’m glad it’s in a bill form now.

Thongsavat: I think this bill is pretty straight forward, thank you Joey for working on it.

F. SB #33 Thongsavat

Thongsavat: This is a special committee that will be established for one year, comprising of 3 members, all volunteer zero money. It will be sleeected based off of the chair and two members at large. The reason I brought up this committee is because I had a platform when I ran for Senate. We live in a college town and make up 40% of the population yet we have few resources so I created this committee to conduct guided research, how to sign a lease, carrying out security deposits, take this research, work on it over a year, and provide a comprehensive reviews at the end. So I know there has been a lot of controversy about the bll, I know the fervor around the third floor has been quite intense today and the last two days. This bill was done in good faith, and I expwect good faith back from my critics. If you don’t like this bill, help me make it better. I understand that there is some overlack and lack of support but this was done in good faith. At the end of the day, if we can help students I think I did a good job.

Martin: Essentially, everyone who voted I the affirmative felt there was too much overlap that in spite of all that, Thongsavat is not asking for any money, there is no such thing as too much information regarding advocacy so now it is only a research committee. I felt there was too much overlap, wasn’t necessary and I also believe that not enough efforts had been made to try with existing institutiesion.

Percoco: We saw this bill on Wednesday and we had a very lengthy discussion on it.

Gina: Hi, my name is Jeanna Gindi. I have been a member of city county for three years and this is my second year serving as Assistant Director of Projects and I am in opposition to creating a committee to serve solely for renter’s rights. As Director of Projects, my main focus for the first half of the year is on Housing Day, but with the change of housing day director becoming a full year position and with the institutional memory that Sabrina Dias, serving her second year as Housing Day director, brings to the unit, it seems that there is less need for my position to be focused solely on housing day. Throughout the past three years I have held a voting position on the City-Student Liason Commission and attended dozens of meetings with Davis Housing as well as with Apartment Complex managers. I not only feel that I have the knowledge and the time to make renter’s rights a priority for my position, but I also have a lot of interest as well as resources in order to do this job well. We have interns looking to get more involved, as well as paid staff who sees the importance of this issue. I am confident that we have the time, the knowledge, and the capability to handle renter’s rights within out unit without the creation of a new committee.I also want to inform all of you that this is not an issue currently being overlooked by our unit. Two staff members as well as myself have met periodically and currently have an action plan that we feel will be in the best interest of the students as well as the city in order to construct the much needed update of the Davis Model Lease.By forming this committee, I feel strongly that my position as well as the entire office is being overstepped and we are not only risking redundancy but we are showing a lack of confidence in

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ourselves since there are already two groups within ASUCD created to handle this and who feel that they can handle this.I would also like to emphasize that this bill has been proposed by the director of the city/county without my knowledge or consent of any other members of the unit.If a committee is formed, then I see no possible conclusion for myself other than to view this as a vote of no confidence in my position and in the work I have been doing and in such case, there is no other option than to resign my position as Assistant Director of Projects.

Pascual: I completely agree with my colleague. With this essentially is a no voting so my services would no longer be required by ASUCD so with this bill, be careful of the repercussions. If this bill passes, consider resignation of my office as well.

Eli: I don’t have an opinion on this yet but I have some questions. I’d like to suggest that should this pass, that language so amend this bill that senators have ex-officio members that sit on the meeting.

Witana: My friends, I rise in strong opposition to this bill. The duties of the special committee at hand are already covered by the resources we already have in the association. I chair the City-student liaison commission, which is a majority student voting body. The duties listed are as follows: One of the main projects we have been working on is the renter’s education guide. Before you is a copy of a draft version. I saw draft because it is still a work in progress much of the issues listed in this bill can easily be added on to guide with no issues at all. If you turn to the page before the orange tab you will see the purpose and duties of the commission.In addition, I am the chair of the davis model lease subcommittee where to revise and update the davis model lease exactly the same duties of special committee listed here.Supporters of this bill mention that there still is no 100% student representation body that represents students on issues of renter’s rights and the model lease.This is not true we have an ASUCD unit that entails all the duties of this committee. It is City County and Affairs. If you turn to the yellow tab you will see the long range plan for CCA and as you can see, their duties do fit in the purview of this committee. I was informed in the internal affairs commission that the CCA Office was too busy with Housing Day to spend time researching on issues like renter’s right, I have spoken to members for CCA Office and I have discovered that is not the case. In fact there are 3 interns in CCA that are not working on this project hat have interest commitment to gather research on issues such as Renter’s Rights. We already warn students that are policy works on this issue in CCA. Why do we need to create a new committee when we already have the people and resources to do. Members of City County Affairs are here to speak justly on this issue. I met with former CCA direction Don Gibson to give his words on the issue which I will read. A vote in favor of this bill will be a vote of no confidence in my duties as your Vice President. I see very big overlap that I’m fearful. The main issue I have with this bill is the committee’s power to operate and make changes with the Davis Model Lease. The committee is right now as written 100% student representations. There in lies the flaw of the committee. One of the biggest misconception is about the davis model lease itself. Just because ASUCD helped create the lease itself and I quote city office manager designee, “The Lease itself was written for citizens of Davis not the students alone. What I mean is that for example should this committee make changes to the model lease. It could lead to all apartment complexes revoking the davis lease as it lacks sufficient input from city members, apartment complexes, and police.

Thongsavat: I’ve been working with every unit director and have brought up these issues with all three of them. We’ve been working on noise ordinances since spring of last year. I’ve been working on renter’s rights since I started with my campaign. I challenge you to find someone who has worked harder on external affairs. Guys, this is a tool for us to use. If you feel you have to resign or take drastic action you are not thinking clear enough.

Cano: So I was talking to Thongsavat last quarter about this before it was even in bill form. I was hesitant about it at first, I pictured it as a purely research—my impression with city/county is that it’s a little extreme for workers to want to resign, but they should know best hat it overlaps with them. I understand that there’s a lot of overlap, maybe one circle less to make it less confusing.

Thongsavat: I’d like to speak to the overlap concern—I agree with you Previn, but how is that overlap bad? How is it negative? The quote is, “No amount of information is bad information.” After 21 days of your security deposit if your landlord doesn’t give you that money back, you can take them to a small claims court. Are there resources for us to look at? To be at a 21st century research

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institute and have someone tell me too much information is bad information, that’s just, come on.

Cano: It’s just a little alarming the discrepancy between the two things.

Walz: I agree but the two things are two separate issues, the disconnect between the director and the committee is a very alarming issue to me but I don’t want that to cloud our judgment that was written in good faith and I urge the employees of city/county affairs that I personally do not take that news lightly but I also think it’s a separate issue than this bill. It’s not taken as you can’t take this job but it’s just two separate issues.

Cano: I understand they’re two separate issues but as senators you should be aware of these matters and now that I think about it, I don’t think that most of the duties are done I can see the whole lawyer thing being done with the special committee but so many things are overlapping it’s confusing. If you want students to go to something, what body do they go to?

Tanner: So I wanted to just lighten the mood a little by pointing out how cute it is that when we get heated about things, we write down speeches. That’s just really cute. But I also think there are other contributing factors, such as three interns who aren’t really doing anything. Something’s going on here.

Moosavi: I am a little shocked of how much offense some people are taking at something. There’s nothing wrong with more information—

Tanner: Never mind, I take back my deferment, your tone just isn’t fitting in with my vibe! I wanna learn about how to advocate at the city level! That’s cool. So next time city/county show up, I do think that it—I don’t know why I said that but I just think it’s very important to create more student opportunities that’s why I said yes going into it.

Schaefer: The reason I worked with adam on his bill, not my bill, was because city/county does do a lot of stuff and renter’s rights is one of them and I think this committee would be a good way to augment the work we do in city/county. I really see no reason why my staff is taking offense to this. It’s not my bill. We talked about my performance and I don’t think it’s related to my work itself. I think that that problem has been partially resolved or at least addressed recently so with that I’ll give deferments.

Ekhator: I’m gonna say that this topic of renter’s right is under the umbrella of city/county’s responsibilities but up til now, it hasn’t gotten the attention it should have. Being that it is a big deal and should get more attention—

Schaefer: I’m gonna take that back and that is my position of the bill. My purpose is to augment our work, work with city/county, I’ll give up another deferment.

Thongsavat: I would actually like everyone to take a really close look at the bill itself. We got around the politics of it but we haven’t looked at the meat and bones. This bill, if you just look at the interview committee, it is as standard as any other committee we have if not more. If you look at what they’re going to do, they’re not going to take any power away from anyone. They’re going to be the most stealthy commission on campus. After that, it’s up to this body and that body over there to decide what the proper recommendations are. It can be something extremely drastic or menial. If you have any major issue with this bill, ask me. No one’s asked me.

Dias: So first off the entire city/council staff that this was going through. If this was going on for good faith, it would’ve happened earlier. I myself have two years experience so my job specifically is the housing job coordinator and work on aspects of renter’s rights so I have intimate contact with the housing complexes and renters and last year and this year I’ve talked about davis model lease. It’s all there. My job is specifically devoted to renter’s rights, to get the information together, to get the information out to students but this committee is going over me without asking my opinion at all. My staff was hurt by this because they were not consulted and it makes me very upset. I have interns saying they have time to do it, I’ve put a lot of time, effort and resources. If this committee is approved, I will resign as housing day coordinator.

Zwald: This committee is unnecessary because of Witana’s documents. The only one I’ve ever liked is the Aggie PAC committee, this just seems like the science committee and student health and

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wellness committee, I stand with the vice president. I think we should not have this committee.

Eli: I was wondering Adam that it would be under the senate, correct?

Thongsavat: Yes it would be in Senate.

Eli: I like the idea behind is but I’m on the fence because… I’m having a hard time articulating what I’m thinking. I guess if the committee would do the same thing, the only way I can kind of see this is if city/county is more for the executive if they sit in the director cabinet given there is no set cabinet so it’d be more under your preview than the executives. Given the city/county has paid personnel for this, I’m a little hesitant to be behind it.

Thongsavat: The thing is, if it’s so passionate and pertinent with you guys, then how come we haven’t seen anything from you guys? I’ve been to liaison committees and I’ve probably been more than any other senator on this table, like I said, external issues. The subcommittee Previn was talking about, how do you expect a student friendly report if you have a tandem worker on the committee? I would take fault for the lack of communication but the way the bill works, I cannot contact everyone. But I’ve talked about renter’s rights.

Lee: Can we maintain civility in the room?

Eli: You said you haven’t seen anything from the staff so far, that might be a valid point but I think if the unit director themselves does not approach renter’s rights issues and it’s expected to come from a specific commission, then it speaks poorly of the director. I really don’t like the liaison either, I didn’t like the people that were on it because I didn’t feel it was an accurate representation of students even though it was the “student liaison” committee but we are potentially selling the idea of the liason short but as long as the committee doesn’t cost any money, there should be more credit given to the student county staff.

Ekhator: I don’t want ot step on anybody’s toes but we’re all employees of ASUCD and to me, part of professionalism is taking strides. Our ultimate bosses are the students. We should take our pride out of it, it’s not professional at all to put the commandment of the students on the line if you think something was directed towards you. Nothing is personal. No one is trying to take a job away from you and minimize your importance. This is only going to serve as an aid. It’s free, it’ll work in conjunction, and only work to provide the students with more information. I don’t see the issue of more heads put in this information folder. I’ll have to read it more closely but I think we should take our pride out of it.

Dias: These issues have been worked on in the past couple years. All the information has been collected and I have information o my personal computer that I’ve been compiling with complexes for a very long time. It’s in the director report. If a report is required and the Senate would like to see it, id’ be fine to put together a report and this redundancy to get work that has already been done, is a waste of effort. This committee is just an overlap to that and with our resources to city/county, there’s no need to make this overlapped committee.

Ekhator: I’m going to motion for a bathroom break.

Cano: I could see the use of this committee, mostly for the researching and gathering of student body because right now we don’t have a body to gather those opinions which is where it gets interesting of eviction notices from past students and compile it and use it toward housing day to see the percentage of students getting their deposit back which is more beneficial and I don’t see people really listening. The day to day and noise ordinance can be removed besides those two could be a solid committee.

Moosavi: So in a better tone than last time, this is for Alison, the internal issues we keep talking about how people are offended I feel we should once again focus on the bill. There are internal issues, the director sits on this committee, they are involved so if members feel they are overlooking them, I don’t think that should be taken out on this bill. For the fact that we finally do have a committee that worked, A PAC, that’s a good example of something that if you focus on one thing you can accomplish so much more. Just looking at renter’s rights issues, I feel like we make much more progress. Like was said earlier, you can never have too much information

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Schaefer: I just kinda wanted to address some of the more personal attacks that I have felt sitting here. For one, I don’t think it’s my responsibility to present Adam’s legislation to my staff whether we have communication issues, that’s a different matter and not applicable to this conversation. Additionally, maybe the fact that this is the first time I’ve heard my staff having complaints about this, shows that they have had knowledge of that since they have prepared statements. So I think it’s irresponsible for people threatening to quit their jobs just because they don’t agree with the legislation. it bothers me because these three people are very smart, very mature individuals so it strikes it to me as rather odd that they are destroying the operations of city/county in a time that is really necessary since housing day is in three days. They are fully aware of the consequences if they resign assuming this legislation is passed. It baffles me why they are doing this. It might be a political stunt, that might be a stretch but I’m going to conclude with I don’t like being attacked on this issue whether it’s my legislation or not. I don’t want to be attacked for my lack of initiative or for personally not working on renter’s rights.

Percoco: First off, I don’t see an issue in overlapping units and things. It is a research body and that’s what we’re looking at it as and more information can’t do any harm. I heard there’s a compromise coming around.

Thongsavat: I will speak about the bill a little more but in the spirit of compromise, we don’t always get what we want but I’m open to changing things in the bill. Beyond this room, we have two thousand people that work for us that allow us to be paid and do this. Let’s not forget that collaboration needs to happen and it’s not a bad thing. If your toes get stepped on, it puts this issue to—how much time do I have? Well I’ve made many compromises in commission and I’ll explain again why I’m disappointed with that.

Percoco: I urge the next person who has power to make those amendments. Today any previously, I was never addressed nor were anyone in my commission and we are External Affairs Commission. I would appreciate if people came to talk to me and I feel people’s opinions were disregarded.

Zwald: Vice president’s right, he’s been talking about his work on the liaison committee forever, the fact of the matter is if you want a real change you have to get everyone involved. The city student liason committee is one of those. A member of tandem on the committee, it’s sad but tandem is a huge company. Id on’t really want to discuss this city/county issue but I consider it part of the executive office and I would ask the staff to not hinder our progress by resigning. I’m willing to help broker that I don’t want the office to fall apart. Please reconsider. I please ask the Senate to look at this bill.

Ekhator: President Zwald, I feel that I really respect your issue of respect and attitude it shouldn’t even be a question. Talks of resignation shouldn’t even happen, we must honor our commitments and pledges that we took. We’re here for a reason to serve the students.

Zwald: As a table that frequently talks about respect, we’re not respecting them. Yield.

Witana: There was no secret lobbying, I came to IAC, EAC and waited a whole hour to speak my grievances. Do we really want them to be a research tool? If not, we can turn them to housing day. Do we really need both? Is my concern. We already have a group of people that have been working for two years and didn’t know this bill existed and they’re feeling really hurt that a committee is being created making them feel they don’t need us anymore. They’re hurt, those are their feelings.

Martin: I’d like to throw out that it’s hard to consider this bill without considering the people, there are three people on the line of resigning. My suggestion is to table this bill for a week, return and reconsider.

Eli: I think that this can’t be turned into a referendum. Twelve people were elected appointed to city/’county directors, etc, while the resignations can be detrimental to the organization, I really like the compromise Thongsavat suggested.

Dias: I talked to Adam and the rest of the staff during the break, our opinion is being taken into account, we wanted our knowledge of three years off each person two from myself, and this committee underneath city/county is exactly that. So we withdraw our resignations.

Jeanna: Our biggest concern was the lack of communication especially me, I didn’t know about it

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until today so who’s to say there is no overlap? But now I’m confident that my fears have been erased.

Eli: Good golly, looks like everything is resolved and almost everyone is peachy keen!

Martin: I’m glad for the comprise and yes, the long range plan expires November.

Lee: I’m very happy with the solution that we reached. I do want to say that this could very easily with not a lot of work have been avoided and saved their Thursday night. I just wanted to say that people should’ve been contacted ahead of time and it could’ve been resolved so we can all take this as a moral lesson. I know I’m going to do my best. I’m very happy with the outcome.

Patrick: I’m a freshman and I’m going to be moving into some manner of cave next year but no offense, but I don’t care how any of you feel. I just want to know if I should live in a house or an apartment next year. I would like someone to give me more information I don’t care if it’s a special committee outside or under it I just want some manner of information to come to me and tell me this is where you get something signed “Love, ASUCD”.

Moosavi: Thank you for coming! We need more people like you to come and break the bubble.

Patrick: I would say actually spend money on it? Because people who work for free, they can comprise something of the pros and cons, but I want someone who will go to each housing area and find out how much each will cost. I think we should actually spend money on an actual Davis Renter’s Guide!

Witana: This is a really big overlap that concerns me which is the power to change the monolease. As is written right now is 100% student written, one of the biggest misconceptions is that just because it was made by ASUCD is that it’s pure student but no it was written to represent the citizens not the students of davis. Which is a BIG difference. One of the office manager designees, basically if this committee gives some sort of change, it will result on every apartment complex that the davis monolease is at risk.

Thongsavat: To address your concerns, this committee is not gonna take the Davis monolease by the horns and take it in a whole another direction. I think we’re giving too much credit to this committee. Picture this, three students sitting by themselves to do research, then collaborate and after that you have a comprehensive report. A year form now, hopefully the mood will change, the davis monlease will change and nothing will be changed. The provision about deposits might have to change because of xxx, I hope I made myself crystal clear. I understand that in order to get policy accomplished we have to get to the liaison committee but we can’t if no one knows what the tenant’s rights is, or a security deposit etc.

Tanner: I do not think that it is the author of the bill’s fault that everyone was not contacted.

Lee: I think we all very much appreciate city/county and all the employees. And now I’m going to motion to call this bill to question.

G. SB #29 Cano (Vetoed)

Zwald: Why hello friends! Today I come to talk to you about Senate Bill 29 which is an amendment to the elections codes that gives unilateral authority to the elections committee to decide violation points and eliminates space for candidates. Furthermore, this takes away storage space from students and disadvantages of those who are not privileged enough to have a storage space to run., there are students who bike on campus or commute, and this is a service that provide to ensure that the elections are fair and free and equal for everyone.Furthermore this revision gives the elections committee complete discretion to assess violation points at will. With the removal of strict violation point guidelines this allows the committee to assess different appointments for the same violations.It is my recommendation that the senate create guidelines for violation points so that there is uniformity in violation point assessment.

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Walz: I kind of want to hear what a few people in particular have to say about this. The storage space I was told previously was that here was no storage space so if we can’t offer it, then strict guidelines for violations, I was under the impression that it is the jobs of the commissions chair to hand out those violations and it was fairly, for this infraction they will assess violation points and I would want to look at that again before we let the veto stand. If someone has a problem with the way they gave out election points, the case can be taken to the court to decide to deliberate there and I’d also be curious to see there’s some changes to the film commission that was not aware of it so I’d just like to hear what those are.

Zwald: There is some storage space in SGAO which is what he space would be a secondly, the strict guidelines were changed from shall be assessed to may be assed to so what I’m saying is that what the bill changes it to is not ideal but neither was it before. They should be given a range so there isn’t elections drama. If we move on from this bill, we can create an even better one by the end of this quarter.

Rudy: We established the guideline when I ran the case.

Provencher: I understand the issue that Jack brought up but the reason why I chose to vote for this bill the first time around was because I got the impression from Sergio that we’d give this to other unit directors, the ability, so I was wondering if Sergio could talk about the different standard.

Cano: I understand that the elections committee meets and talks about violation points such as an endorsement. The wording is they “shall” but they did not, it’s not binding and that’s my understanding of what it’s been and that’s kind of been what I’ve been going toward. There’s some situations where it’s not their fault to change it from “shall” to “may”. But that’s my opinion.

Cano: I hate the word unilateral but hat goes back to my first senate bill. Anyways, prior to senate bill 29, the elections committee is the only committee that can give out violation points and it goes on and says decisions by the court must be followed by the elections committee so what you said was a little inaccurate so the court is in the decision process. Now the deadlines for elections expenditure forms were not given, deadline before the start of election, both are bylaws not amended by the senate bill but senate bill 29 did erase Asucd’s service hours which none of you have really heard about. The election codes already binds election committee, it states in the bylaws that all elections conducted fairly so this reason for the presidential veto is simply not true. If you want more examples of this, I refer you to 411C5, 6, 7, 11, 12bi23, 4.12.3, pleas note none of these were amended and the only acceptable reason for the presidential veto is the storage space. If this veto is overridden, I will write an urgent bill.

Tanner: One, wow. Two, I just want a point of clarification for everyone to know when we are seeing a bill that has been vetoed, we must vote to overrule the veto with the bill as is. We can’t make any edits to it. while it is really great that this issue of the storage space was brought up by the executive office, we cannot right now edit it, then approve it which is really unfortunate. This was in commissions for a while, so I really wish the executive had taken a role in the commissions to bring it up then, but you know you’re hecka busy so that’s cool. Like Cano said, that’s a possible idea and I talked to Mr. Sydney, the former elections chair who said the storage space has not been traditionally used and SGAO found that having the space being used within their office a burden to their functioning so we should work on finding a real space for people to use. I just wanna remind everyone we are only looking whether to override the veto bill as is, or not.

Thongsavat: I could also speak to the storage space issue, I don’t think any candidate really utilized the space, the office hours of SGAO are not as productive as they are now closing at 5 o’clock so it kind of makes it inopportune. Jack has valid points on the bill but the reasons why I think we should look at this bill is because in the past, we don’t give enough discretion to people to look at the bill, as former chair, it really is hard to punish people when they don’t listen. When the campaign executive are not well aware of the role or treat it with respect, we should all campaign in dorms and not in just postings. I don’t feel too strongly away, jack has strong points. Have at it.

Zwald: The fact of the matter is there is a constitutional mandate that they have to follow certain rules fairly, but nothing that necessarily states what is or isn’t fair. That’s a very subjective interpretation of what’s fair and I agree with Thongsavat that we should give more latitude, just not complete latitude. I think a hybrid bill would be much better.

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Lee: With the point of th storage room, even if it’s not often or hypothetical, the question I’m thinking is overall if you feel like this bill is as far as operating guidelines for this election, is it worse or better than the current bylaws? The reason why I ponder is because it’s not perfect and I can see that and I don’t think our original goals are perfect either. I’m pondering which si more or less perfect.

Zwald: That’s great pondering. I think the current ones are slightly better, both have their flaws but keeping it constrained now so election committees can’t go all out, I think having a very steady outlined plan is better than having completely discretion. Like I said, hybrid is better.

Lee: Sergio, would you agree with president Zwald? I’m assuming you disagree. Does anyone know how Nick Sydney or any of the other co-authors feel about it?

Witana: Just to clarify, I spoke to Sydney this week and he didn’t even know he was a co-author.

Lee: What about the current elections char?

Thongsavat: Meyerhoff is pretty intent and my advice is to just keep this as safe as possible and support the president’s veto. I know this might not be Cano’s option but after this we probably won’t be able to work on it anyway because next week will be the fourth week and we won’t be able to pass the bill anyway. Election codes will never be perfect, there’s always gonna be discrepancies and for now our best option is to support Jack’s veto and come back the eighth week of the quarter and discuss it again, I think we should have stricter guidelines. Both made good points and it won’t hurt anyone to keep it as is.

Cano: First off, I’d like to address the Nick Sydney thing. He gave us these original ideas and brought up the edits changing the words and to add the committee election chair person and both Sydney and Meterhoff looked over the bill as well as Adam. I do agree the election codes should be looked at and having a more violation to be uniform, it’s been one of my goals to get there. Nothing will stop me even if you don’t choose to override the veto. This isn’t the first time we’ve talked about amending the election rules even though it’s one of the most used rules. It’s a long, messy discussion and we need to work together to get the job done. Maybe you could form a special committee or task force from the executive office, but it needs to get done soon. I’ve been with ASUCD forever, and this has always been a topic during election time. It must be done. We were here til 4 am discussing a previous 12 page amendment.

Moosavi: I agree with Adam because we’re in such a limbo right now, even though I agree with Sergio, I’d like to see some stricter guidelines and I also see Jack’s points of giving a little too much power but some power should be given of when someone can step in. Unless someone has something important to say,… defer to Liz.

Walz: So we’re talking about lines 27 where we’re adding violation points which I feel like should be violation points and I can see that we need strict guidelines. I kind of like the bill that Sergio wrote just because it’s uniform and here there’s another discrepancy that wll get a violation point, “shall be assessed 0 or 1 or 2 violation points.

Moosavi: I agree, everything is more uniform, but there is also more power.

Rudy: 3 is what it takes to get an executive to get kicked off the campaign, it was cut to 0, 1, or 2.

Rombi: I was going to address the question about Nick but I can call him if we have any more questions regarding the storage space. Out of the last two years, it was only used once to store tabling supplies. He didn’t feel it was really necessary so if anyone has any questions, I can call him and he’ll answer and answer any questions.

Chen: If we happen to pass something we didn’t want to happen, we can’t amend it for this election. I think we can talk about it more I’ll yield.

Cano: What we said was a little inaccurate. It used to say 0, 1, 2 or 3 and it was removed in Spring 2009 when Matt Shannon gave that comprehensive with blackout and no voting. It looks like it won’t be overridden and I agree, amendments need to be made.

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XIV. Other Business

URGENTCano: This is urgent because he intends to resign one week before. We have a replacement, everything is set in stone.

Thongsavat: I had a chance to kind of talk to Ryan this morning and I feel like they should give us a really hard centre from the Senate. He knows he is well capable of running for Senate. If someone resigns, there’s a way to go around it and overlook it but this was a very irresponsible thing for him to do and he should know that. He should give us time to find a chair and possible candidates. He could possibly extremely hurt this association. I’m really disappointed in Ryan, I am really pissed. It’s a slap in the face, man.

Rombi: the things that Adam just said about options of who would be the replacement are decent options but it’s also not what this bill says. It says the elections committee will select amongst themselves. I also have a slight problem with that, specifically because I don’t know how great it is for them to pick between the two. Maybe they should come before Senate and ya’ll pick someone? We don’t want them to just flip a coin because hey, that could happen.

Provencher: I agree with your concern and we should leave it open to elect someone outside the committee. I think Cano or Adam said we can’t pass legislation within a certain amount of weeks before legislation, which is tonight. I guess we should pass this as a intern bill and amend it later which I think is necessary.

Thongsavat: I haven’t spoken to the other person. One is a freshman, another is Andreas a fourth year who isn’t interested in this position. I talked to ryan, they could take a co chair but to use some paraphrase Mark Champagne, we just have to use what we’re given. Are they certified? So what this will do is hopefully, a more nonpartisan person can talk to the members and make a decision within the first two weeks and hopefully dive right into elections and have a more permanent committee because if we don’t do anything about it, we’ll be in really deep trouble. I’d like to hear what everyone has to say about this, the wording with it. Thanks for writing it Sergio.

Chen: I like the language of the bill.

Thongsavat: Does anyone have any major concerns with this bill?

Ekhator: I agree with bree’s sentiments. I’d be more comfortable with the committee choosing amongst themselves, they be approved at the next meeting.

Thongsavat: If they choose at the next meeting, it has to be certified and we get a whole series of problems with candidacy so we must find a more expedient way.

Tanner: I think particularly during elections, everyone at the table during elections, we become a little partisan because we’re all involved. Even having us choose between these two people, is still a little fishy. Maybe if Mark Champagne would be down to do a temporary chair…

Thongsavat: Problem is it has to be a student. And Mark Champagne would prefer for us to choose on our own but he suggested co chairs and it wouldn’t be controversial between these two candidates and it’s only a temporary fix for only two weeks.

Martin: I just wanted to remind if we’re going to pass anything regarding election codes tonight, it has to be signed ASAP because technically it has to be enacted four weeks before elections so President Zwald has to sign it tomorrow morning.

Rombi: If we pass this and there’s cochairs for the mean time until someone is hired, is that still considered okay if there’s three different chairs during the election cycle?

Martin: No?

Chen: If we have co chairs and two co chairs, it might be a little weird if they give descending opinions because then whose opinion do we take? We should decide that we have one chair so there’s no future problems.

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Martin: I agree, the sentiment is right in having co chairs, but it’s not right because in case they have descanting opinions, what will happen?

Witana: Honestly I don’t think we’re ready for an outsider right now. We need someone who knows what ASUCD elections are like.

Diaz-Ordaz: I think we should just have the two co chairs and assume that they will disagree on things just because it is so late and we are in a race and I kind of want to get it done already, and having someone from outside wouldn’t be good since we’re already getting petitions signed and it’ll be annoying having people not knowing what they’re doing.

Walz: I’m a little bit on the opposite spectrum but I think that we should let them choose out of themselves who should be the election chair. I think we should only have one so when it comes to violation points, there’s a clear one sided opinion, no discrepancies. I don’t know for sure because I don’t know them super well but I’d assume one of them would be able to take on the duties as chair and I don’t think it’s necessary in our time constraint that someone has to confirm them. In these circumstances, we just have to do what we have to do.

Thongsavat: I think the bill as is is strong. There’s only two real options so I don’t feel there’s much to discuss so I urge the next senator to call this bill to question.

Dias: It’s not going to be anything long, more of a notification confirming what people have been thinking about tonight.

Tanner: You can probably wait for Jack’s meeting for that and then I want to say that I have another piece of other business or a public discussion that I want to bring up, really sorry, so sorry.

Thongsavat: I agree with Alison, that was unfortunate. If you have other concerns, please contact me.

Dias: There have been problems within the city/county office. There’s been problems between the directors and staff within the office I want to clarify this isn’t a new issue we’ve had three mediations since the beginning of this quarter. The behavior has not improved this is not new, it’s been here since the beginning of fall quarter I’d be really happy if someone wanted to talk to me about it. I promise we try keeping it in the house, but today it just came out. If anyone wants to get involved, I strongly encourage that.

Tanner: I wanted to say I received a call form one of my unit directors, campus copies, she was very unhappy that the chair of B&F came into her finance unannounced, sat in there for three hours in a corner, and later when asked said he was doing an audit. She felt she was being attacked. I know this is really not cool.

Thongsavat: I would prefer not to speak about these things at the table, we should get some notice of these things

Hein: So a lot of what you just said is incorrect because I haven’t been in campus copies. My commissioners have been auditing campus copies since Friday. We sent her a schedule of which commissioners are going to be in at which times so she knows perfectly well what is going on. One of the things that happens with audits is that no one really likes them but we’re trying to get them a new copiers o I think it’s imperative we see how it’s running before we make a 25k expenditure and I know there’s a lot of notion going on around this but really, we’re just trying to help out the unit so any misguided emotion should be put elsewhere.

Thongsavat: I hate to do this but I’m going to move into ex-officio reports.

Cano: I actually wanted to find the brochure I was passing around the table, which is the design we’re going to go with so I’m going to go with the best option. The banner will be around 100 dollars because I want good quality stuff. We’re going to look for pens or stuff to give out at tabling events. My idea was to table on a normal basis like CALPIRG but on a less annoying scale.

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XV. Public Discussion

Lee: Last week during the internet and networking committee, I would very much like Chen and Martin to add to this later on. We received a proposal from AS Papers, I brought up that a similar proposal was brought up last year and the response I got last time was that the service was on its way out it wasn’t appropriate for us to fund it. Mark Champagne brought up that we had allocated funds for their service. Now the question that we have to address which is why I want to thank President Zwald for sticking around is that INC compromised we’d bring it up this week in meeting and pose the question to Senate if we should cut funding and dissolve the service completely, or fund the service to continue its work. AS Papers hasn’t been in service for the past few months and if we don’t make a decision this week, we’ll have to by next week. Personally, I would rather cut the unit than to grant it additional funding. I that it’s print media and print media is on its way out, and I don’t think the service has been functioning well in the past. It is a decision we have to come to soon because we can’t leave the service in a limbo where it doesn’t receive enough funding to function properly yet we still fund it some money.

Cano: Why did Andre have to bring up AS Papers? I wanted to talk about urgent legislation

Diaz-Ordaz: I think we should use “I” statements because we were saying things that weren’t from our own experiences. I think we should also validate how we’re feeling, challenge and not disregard because that’s not friendly, that’s not nice. Just for future references, just talking from own experiences.

Zwald: AS Papers is a unit that I’ve been not in favor of supporting financially because print media is on its way out and I’ve been in favor of removing the unit because we have something called the internet, where you can make a blog extremely easily. Personally, I’m ambivalent on it so the senate needs to make a decision on it. My previous record has shown me to be in favor of not continuation the service.

Witana: AS Papers has been struggling, back then when it was functioning we had a terrible director who never came to meetings and it took a full year to complete a long range plan. I’m neutral on this decision, I’ll leave it up to the Senate.

Zwald: Senate wanted it around, so we kept it. Now we have a new Senate so I want to hear what you have to say about it.

Eli: I still believe that if they’re not asking for more equipment after a bad track record, they should be cut. Especially they have a history of shaky directors that don’t respond and it’s a dying art form in favor of blogs.

Shaikh: Just sitting back glancing at things like I often do at these meetings, I peer over at this coffee sleeve and notice bloodsource is advertising so why shouldn’t asucd?!

Thongsavat: Joey, what is the line item? How much is it for AS Papers? Mr. VP, how long has the vacancy for the director been open?

Witana: We now have a new director who will be emailing me his plans for the unit this weekend, and before it was filled, it was vacant for a quarter.

Eli: They should have equipment to produce work.

Chen: I talked to Jack and in the budget, the director was given $1,400.00 and no other money was given to them.

Moosavi: Everyone’s saying this is something that will die out since it’s easy to make a blog and publish whatever you want.

Thongsavat: Just based off the numbers and facts, we should really be striding towards making our units as revenue neutral as possible. If they aren’t, we should ake sure they serve a really concise conceived purpose which I don’t think AS Papers does. It’s been a struggling unit since the time I’ve looked at it and I don’t know if there’s any indicators saying it will turn around.

Moosavi: He doesn’t think they can do much with the equipment they have right now which is why I think we should make a decision now. It’ll take funding to give the another chance and as much as happy I am for him to have this position, maybe he’ll find something else to do with his time.

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Tanner: What I think we should do with AS Papers is create a blog section on the ASUCD website, and they can have a hosted blog affiliated with AS Papers. It will be a big of an investment to get Creative Media to design the website but it’s a low cost start up for a no cost Aggie. I think it’s genius!

Eli: I think that’s a nifty idea, but we have to consult Creative Media and Alex Park and bear in mind if enough people want hard copies, they can eventually revive AS Papers in the future but as of now it is not a sustainable idea.

Zwald: Is everyone cool with looking into that? Are there any objections of that idea?

Chen: Alex Park does not think we should provide new technology for AS Papers but Mark Champagne thinks that since they are still a unit, we should fund them. I feel that is it wrong to have more information? No, it’s not but the thing that got us tripped up on this bill was the internal aspect and those aspects transcend the bill’s intentions. This bill was good. I feel that I’m technically an unbiased person, I’m going to look into it. If anyone wants to help, or spearhead it!

Walz: Everything you’re saying is valid and I think I’m going to be the one to spearhead that conversation and I would love to talk to each and every person in this room about it.

Zwald: Having talked to a representative of staff Mr. Schaefer, I believe I’ll be working with the adopted senator for the unit until housing day, we must make sure the unit stays in the tact, Mr. Arce, the staff, anyone who wants to come, I’ll be doing some peace process. Shoot me an email and I’ll set up a meeting, I like Sunday meetings. We’ll work it out. End of story.

Chen: Really fast I wanna talk about capital reserves, we have 1.7 million in our unrestricted reserves so total we have 3.3 million.

Walz: I got on the speakers list to speak about AS Papers but all my points have been kinda covered so I’m more wondering do they have projects lined up? I want to hear the director’s vision if they need more equipment than just the computers, and I think those questions were answered. Can I motion for a ten minute break?

XVI. Any Other Business

XVII. Adjournment

Meeting is adjourned at 11:33 PM.