gogi tofaze...ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14 oqtomberi...
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saakaSvili qarTul presasganadgurebas upirebs!
rac ufro bevrjer dauZaxebssaakaSvili ruseTis agentsbiZina ivaniSvils, miT ufro met xmas miiRebs ivaniSvili...
yvelaze metad saakaSvilimisTvis saZulvel
aslan abaSiZes hgavs, mere ra, rom is dabali
iyo da es maRalia? mainc imas hgavs
`yvelam icis, rombiZina ivaniSvili
ar ityueba da rasac
gvpirdeba, aucileblad
gaakeTebs~
gogi TofaZe:
`ra ena waxdes...~Tu Cven vapirebT saqarTve-
loSi inglisuri ena urTierT-
gagebinebis saSualebad gamovi-
yenoT, maSin xelT SegvrCeba
Semdegi viTareba _ inglisure-
novani somxebi, inglisurenova-
ni azerbaijanelebi da ingli-
surenovani qarTvelebi. Cndeba
kiTxva _ ra hqvia im qveyanas, sadac es
inglisurenovani xalxebi cxovroben?
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redaqtoris svetixom giTxariT, arCevnebi axlov-
deba-mmeTqi.
ager solomon Ternali `pre-sage.tv~-ddan igives amtkicebs, xolo
batoni solomoni ki, rogorc weri-
lidan irkveva, niWieri da brZeni ka-
cia da haerSi sityvebs tyuilubra-
lod ar isvris.
Tumca brZenoba rad unda imis
mixvedras, rom arCevnebi karsaa mom-
dgari?
erasti galavans rom gadaevlo
da 30 lariani vauCerebi rom dau-
riges glexobas, me piradad imwamve
mivxvdi, arCevnebi sul male, sadRac
gazafxulze dainiSneboda.
_ sworia, sworia, arCevnebi 5 ma-
iss iqnebao _ midasturebs batoni
solomoni.
sainteres -
oa, imas, rasac
me da solomo-
ni ase iolad
vxvdebiT, ra-
tom ver xvde-
bian politiku-
ri partiebi,
romlebic Zve-
leburi sidar-
baisliT agrZe-
leben mTqnare-
bas da zantad
imeoreben er-
Tidaigives _
arCevnebi oq-
tomberSi iqneba, manamde ki erTi we-
lia darCenili da yvelafers movas-
wrebTo.
me mgoni, eseni xelisuflebis da-
valebas asruleben da specialurad
avrceleben cru informacias, Torem
is, rac me da solomonma viciT, ro-
gor SeiZleba amaT ar icodnen?
Tumca romc icodnen, ras cvlis
es codna maTTvis _ gatexili saxe-
li gaumTeldebaT, gayiduli sindisi
daubrundebaT Tu ra?
arCevnebio ki vambobT, magram di-
di asarCevi da Tavsatexi arc ara-
feria _ saarCevno moedanze sul
orad-oori figuraa _ erTi ivaniSvi-
li, meore _ saakaSvili.
am or figuras Soris arCevanis
gakeTeba ki iseTi martivi da iolia,
rom saarCevno kampanias da saagita-
cio-ssapropagando muSaobis Catare-
bac ki ar Wirdeba.
marTalia, saarCevno garemo ar
gaumjobesebula, samagierod, rogo-
rc amboben, `axalma memarjveneebma~
gaiumjobeses finansuri mdgomareoba
da amasTan erTad ise Seerwynen da
Seexmatkbilnen saxelisuflebo gu-
nds, rom xandaxan mamuka kacitaZe
paliko kublaSvilSi mereva.
palikos gaxsenebaze arc is aris
gamoricxuli Salikoc palikos Se-
erwyas, oRond malulad, konspira-
ciulad, rogorc Salikos sCvevia.
ase rom droa, solomon, roma
kvlav iarCevnos saqarTveloma!
asarCevi ki, rogorc giTxariT,
bevri araferia _ an marcxniv wax-
val an marjvniv, esaa da es...
vaxtang xarCilava
yvelaferi dalagda da pazlis areuli
elementebma erTmaneTi monaxes.
rac mTavaria, sabolood SeTanxmda sa-
qarTvelos saparlamento arCevnebis TariRi
– 5 maisi!
sareklamo banerebze iqneba wiTlad da-
xatuli 5/5!
mere ra, rom SabaTia! CvenTvis yvela
dRe xom SabaTia!
ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-
bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14
oqtomberi (rac, formalurad mainc, saar-
Cevno procesis dagegmil vadebSi Catarebas
gulisxmobda), roca moqalaqeTa nawili ek-
lesiebSi wavidoda, didi nawili - mcxeTa-
Si, xolo darCenili nawili – saarCevno
ubnebze� magram es TariRi sakmaod maleve
daiwunes.
SedarebiT didxans da ufro seriozu-
lad ganixileboda 5 agvistos va-
rianti. kvira dRea, mosaxleobis
didi nawili didi xania dasasveneb-
ladaa iqneba gaxekili soflebSi,
mTaSi Tu zRvaze. am TariRis momx-
reebi gegmavdnen, hidrometcentris
meSveobiT gavrcelebuliyo cnoba,
rom 8 agvistos mzeze magnituri
qariSxali, radiaciuli fonis up-
recedento gazrda, da sxva raime
kataklizmebi iqneboda mosalodne-
li da mosaxleobas, gansakuTrebiT,
– pensionerebs, mouwodebdnen sax-
lebSi darCeniliyvnen.
magram, sabolood mainc 5/5-m ajoba
da ai, ratom:
- jer erTi, erTi ki ara, ori xuTi-
ania!!
- 2 maiss ormaisoba Catardeba quTa-
isSi, gaixsneba parlamentis Senoba da
prezidentis sayvareli Sadrevani, rac
arCevnebis win ”nacmoZraobis da xalxis
erTobis” amaRlebul fons Seqmnis.
- 6 maiss policiis dResTan dakavSi-
rebiT ukve 3 maisidan saqarTvelos sxva-
dasxva qalaqebSi daiwyeba policiis aR-
lumis mosamzadebeli wvrTnebi, rac mo-
saxleobisaTvis Zalis demonstrirebis
legaluri sababi iqneba.
- dabolos, xalxi kidev erTxel darw-
mundeba, rom miSa sityvebs haerze ar isv-
ris da rom mravaljer gameorebuli 26 ma-
isidan saqarTvelos axali parlamentis qu-
TaisSi muSaobis dawyeba SemTxveviTi fraza
ar iyo.
magram mTavari mizezi, ris gamoc Seir-
Ca 5 maisi, sul sxvaa.
saakaSvili mixvda (Zalian bevrjer gau-
meores da sxva gza ar hqonda, unda mimxv-
dariyo), rom aravin ar apirebs mis mier se-
riozuli konkurentis gzidan ukanonod Ca-
mocilebis mcdelobaze Tvalis da-
xuWvas. is, rom qeTrin eStonic da
obamas administraciac yuradRebiT
adevneben Tvals, moxdeba Tu ara
biZina ivaniSvilisaTvis absolu-
turad politikuri motiviT war-
Tmeuli moqalaqeobis dabruneba,
eWvs ar iwvevs. raoden ar unda
jiutobdes miSa, mas mainc mouwevs
am nabijze wasvla, rac gia nodiam
Tavidanve erTmniSvnelovnad Sec-
domad CauTvala mis sayvarel xelisufle-
bas. is erTaderTi fraza, roca prezident-
ma ivaniSvili axsena – ”ivaniSvili CvenTvis
kargia – formaSi yofnas gvaiZulebs!”, ukve
ukandaxevis aRiarebaa – sxvanairad warmo-
udgeneli cinizmia konkurentis aseT ”sar-
gebelze” saubari, Tu mas, yuriT moTreuli
mizeziT, politikur ringze ar uSveb.
magram miSa Seecdeba, rom moqalaqeobis
ganmeorebiT miniWeba (esec ukve gadawyveti-
li aqvT, rom swored ganmeorebiT mowyale-
bis moReba da ara – sakuTari Secdomis aRi-
areba) ise moxdes, rom ivaniSvils ar eyos
dro partiis struqturebis da normaluri
sareklamo kompaniis Casatareblad. amitom
Tebervlis dasawyisSi, rodesac saakaSvili
arCevnebis vadas daniSnavs, is gamoacxadebs,
rom mimdinareobs ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqe-
obis aRdgenis sakiTxis iuridiuli proce-
durebis dazusteba, magram Tavad aqtis ga-
mocemas mxolod martSi, an sulac – ap-
rilSi moawers xels.
arCevnebis gadmotanis mizezi meore Tav-
satexia, razec nacmoZraobis tvinebSi TaT-
biri da Zieba grZeldeba. ise, yuradReba mi-
aqcieT CangalTsardal baqraZis mier gaxma-
urebul viTom umniSvnelo gancxadebas –
2012 wels ruseTi oms veRar daiwyebs, Za-
lian bevri fuli Cado olimpiadis obieqte-
bis mSeneblobaSio!!! – es olimpiadis imedad
yofna rames xom ar gagonebT axlo warsu-
lidan?!!! me piradad, Zalian cudad magonebs
im olimpiur simSvides, romliTac didi
soflebis aRebas gvamcnobda Cveni make-done-
li.
gadawyda isic, rom sagareo veqtori um-
niSvnelovanes mimarTulebad unda iqces,
Tumca aq jer kidev gaurkvevlobaa. adeiSvi-
li da bokeria Tvlian, rom ucxoel diplo-
matebTan muSaobis tvirTi swored bokeria-
ze unda gadavides, magram saakaSvili amas
ver egueba. mas ar unda daijeros, rom misi
saerTaSoriso didebis mze Caesvena. amitom
jer kidev cdilobs, rom meorexarisxovani
vizitebiT da sxvadasxva konferenciebze ga-
mosvlebiT da saqarTvelos fantasmagoriu-
li warmatebebis moyirWebuli gacveTili
frazebis kanonadiT, dasavlel liderebisT-
vis xelis CamorTmevis da miRebebze fotos
gadaRebis formiT isev aRidgens Zvel Sara-
vandeds. amitomac ecdeba, rom mxolod baq-
raZes da vaSaZes (rogorc dedofladgasvlis
ambavSi dasaWurisebul paikebs) andos saga-
reo vizitebi da gancxadebebi – aki dRes ki-
dec gaumxila vaSaZem mTel msoflios is,
risi aRiarebac saakaSvils katastrofulad
„rcxvenia“ – rom Turme mixeil saakaSvils
namdvilad ar aqvs gegmaSi premier-ministro-
ba! Zalian mainteresebs msoflioSi im lide-
ris an analitikosis aRmoCena, romelsac
sjera, rom saakaSvili Tavis gegmebs vaSaZes
andobs! vladimer sokori, sergei ilariono-
vi, rafael gluqsmani da sxva angaJirebuli
figurebi ar maqvs mxedvelobaSi – egeni, ra
Tqma unda, daujereben vaSaZes da saerTod
magaT mag gancxadebamdec ar eparebodaT eW-
vi, rom saakaSvili Tavis reputacias puti-
nis imitirebiT ar SebRalavda! netar arian
„morwmuneni“.
saSinao mimarTulebac dalagda – marTa-
lia, opoziciurad monaTluli agent enver-
2-is, anu erosi-2-is dezavuireba gaxda sa-
Wiro, magram ramdenadac xelisuflebam sa-
telitidan „maestros“ gaTiSva moaxerxa,
„maestros“ mflobelebsa da Jurnalistebs
nervebi seriozulad mouSala, maestrosaT-
vis licenziis CamorTmevis winapiroba Seqm-
na da am areulobaSi guriaTV-c gadasansla,
rogorc Cveni usafrTxoebis sabWos mdivani
ambobs, es gamarTlebuli Sewirva iyo.
saSinao piaris mTavari mimarTuleba
jandacva gaxda! arcerTi dRe saavadmyofos
gauxsnelad! zogjer dReSi 2 saavadmyofoc
ki ixsneba! vin muSaobs iq, vin mkurnalobs,
rogori fasebia?... – amas aravin kiTxulobs.
saerTod saavadmyofoebis gaxsna iseT aJio-
taJis, Tayvaniscemis da beladis winaSe me-
taniobis fonze midis, rom ivanovis
„ÿâëåíèå Õðèñòà íàðîäó“ monagonia!axali savadmyofoebi + axali aRmaSene-
beli + axali baTumi + lazika/evrika = go-
elro-s! anu stabilurobis oaziss krizi-
siT danTqmul da gaubedurebul mTel
msoflioSi! investorebo, mTeli qveynisa
SeerTdiT da mogrovdiT saqarTve-
los sazRvrebTan, sadac bademo-
marjvebuli gilauri da Tvaleba-
JuJunebuli vera dagxvdebian! pir-
veli mercxalic, saakaSvilis
mTavrobasTan Tavisi saxeliT war-
matebulad movaWre donaldic, uk-
ve Camodis!
garda damSeuli mosaxleobis
30-lariani vauCerebiT mosyidvis
mravalnacadi xerxisa (razec 24
milioni lari daixarjeba – TiT-
qosda, biznesis waxalisebis sa-
fuZvliT), ufro seriozuli geg-
mebic daigegma da xorcieldeba.
magaliTad, (kerZod, obamas administ-
raciis) sagareo mxardaWeris mosapoveb-
lad – avRaneTSi moxdeba pentagonis Ca-
nacvleba qarTuli sajariso SenaerTebiT!
warmogidgeniaT – obamam jarebi gaiyvana,
xolo miSa – qarTul SenaerTebs zrdis!
xom vicodiT, rom avRaneTs verc ruseTi
da verc amerika ver aaSenebdnenen sabo-
lood – ager, mainc Cvens imedad darCnen
avRanlebi! oRond skamze datovon da me-
ZuZur dedebs ar gaagzavnis miSa saom-
rad?! gaagzavnis! egec gamarTlebul Se-
wirvad CaiTvleba bokerias mxridan!
...da gemic micuravs!
mere ra, rom wyali lamis kiComdea, ka-
pitani gonze aRaraa, mezRvaurebi ixrCobi-
an, gembanze xanZari mZvinvarebs da maSvel
navebSi mxolod bobolebis ojaxebis adgi-
lia!.. mTavaria – orkestri isev ukravs,
Sampanuric iRvreba, himnic ismis, xalxi
mReris wagebul/mogebul omze da dakargul
teritoriebze, romelTa dabrunebasTan yve-
laze axlos swored exla varT, da ekran-
zec gadis lamazi filmi – lamaz qalaqeb-
ze, lamaz Sadrevnebze da lamaz momavalze,
romelic swored am xelisuflebam moigona,
dawera, dadga da, Tavadve daasamara.
P.S. Tumca, aris ori „Tumca“
a) 2003 wlis dasawyisSic msgav-
si gamarjvebis gegmebi hqondaT moqa-
laqeTa kavSiris mesveurebs, magram
is moxda, rasac aravin eloda – yve-
lafris msurvelma mTavrobam briS-
ti miiRo da rac mTavaria, ucxoeT-
ma ar „gauprava“ erTgul Sevardna-
Zes arCevnebi. Tu vinmes hgonia, rom
dRes saakaSvilis saerTaSoriso re-
itingi SevardnaZis 2003 wlis saerTaSori-
so reitings aRemateba, rac ufro didxans
egonebaT ase – miT ukeTesi!..
b) 2011 wlis wlis dasawyisSi arabuli
qveynebis despotebsac xelebs ukocnidnen,
„qveynis imeds“ uZaxdnen da yiJiniT mosdev-
dnen aseulebi, magram mere aRmoCndnen, rom
am aseulebis enTuziazms aTaseulebi da mi-
lionebi ar iziarebdnen da es ambavi kidev
ufro uaresad damTavrda.
saakaSvilma da nacmoZraobam kidec rom
moigos, mainc waageben.
da rac ufro gvian waageben, miT ufro
sazareli iqneba es wageba. ubedureba imaSia,
rom „umaRlesi mxedarTmTavris“ dangreuli
fsiqika ukve kontrols aRar eqvemdebareba.
adre deda iyo ukanaskneli tranqvilizato-
ri. axla ukve esec aRar Wris...
solomon Ternalipresage.tv
ibeWdeba mcireodeni SemoklebiT.
5/5 - da gemi micuravs...
saakaSvilma da nacmoZraobam kidec rom moigos, mainc waageben.da rac ufro gvian waageben, miT ufro sazareli iqneba es wageba.
3#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi
imis gamo, rom ar arsebobda
oficialuri statistika, ramdeni
idioti cxovrobda saqarTveloSi
2003 wlis monacemebiT, maxsovs, im
dros gamomavalma erT-erTma gazeT-
ma gadawyvita sakuTari ZalebiT
SeZlebisdagvarad gamoeTvala maTi
ricxvi.
idiotebis ricxvi elviseburi
siswrafiT matulobda im xalxis
xarjze, romelTac sjerodaT, rom
mixeil saakiaSvili eduard Sevar-
dnaZis mteri iyo (an piriqiT), xo-
lo aw gardacvlili zurab Jvania
SevardnaZis Seurigebeli opozici-
oneri; im xalxis xarjze, romel-
Tac sjerodaT, rom sakrebulos
Tavmjdomaris savarZlis daTmoba
saakaSvilisTvis ar niSnavda mxo-
lod mTeli Tbilisis ki ara, mTe-
li saqarTvelos xelSi aRebas; im
xalxis xarjze, romelTac sjero-
daT, rom mixeil saakaSvili mdid-
rebs waarTmevda da Raribebs mis-
cemda...
amaswinaT, batonma zurab gagniZem
brZana, fsiqiuri aSliloba qarTve-
li erisTvis damaxasiaTebeli menta-
loba ar aris, magram axla es, sa-
erTo movlena gaxdao. ra gasakviria,
vinc idiotobidan srulad gamovida,
miixed-moixeda Semcivnulma, damSe-
ulma, dainaxa rac moitana misma da
misnairi idiotebis `miSa! miSas~
yvirilma, fsiqiuri aSliloba dae-
marTa. me davamatebdi, arc sklero-
zianobis maCvenebelia dabali-Tqo.
aba, rogor ar vifiqro ase, roca
liftebis da saxuravebis SekeTebiT
motyuebulebi axla Sadrevnebs da
asfalts Sehxarian, namdvilad sje-
raT saqarTvelos ekonomikuri wins-
vlisa da Sesabamisad, hgoniaT, rom
qveynis aRmSeneblobiT, mxolod sin-
gapurs Tu CamovrCebiT da, am wels
raRa iqneba, im wlis bolosTvis ma-
sac gadavuswrebTo.
`es parlamenti asaTianzea gada-
satani!~ _ gahyviroda cxonebuli
vaxtang goguaZe.
vin iyvnen parlamentSi im
dros? _ dRevandeli mmarTveli
gundi.
gemaxsovrebaT, leri gelenava
fsiqiatriul SemowmebasTan erTad
narkologiur Semowmebasac iTxov-
da. iqiT viRac proqtologis Care-
vis saWiroebasac xedavda.
isic gemaxsovrebaT, givi Targa-
maZe SeZlebisdagvarad rom afCenda
pirs, rogorc ki saakaSvili ius-
ticiis saministroSi mivida, pir-
velma Caabara sisxli narkologiur
Semowmebaze da mTelma saministrom
igive gaakeTao. amaze xalxi qirqi-
lebda, saakaSvils arc narkomano-
bas edaveba vinme da arc sxva
rameSia eWvmitanili, fsiqiatriu-
li Semowmeba gaiaroso. sxvebi epa-
suxebodnen, gavlili aqvs, axlidan
ratomRa gaiaros, sabuTi xelSi
uWiravs, ar etyoba rom giJiao? _
isinic qirqilebdnen.
batoni Temur mirianaSvili ise
daacxra Tavs saakaSvils yviriliT,
giJi xaro, eduard SevardnaZe ve-
Rar aSoSminebda, lamis Temurs Ca-
acves giJis perangi...
mokled, giJi iyo Tu ara, saa-
kaSvili sakrebulos Tavmjdomarec
iyo, iusticiis ministric da pre-
zidenticaa, Tanac, karga xania Tvi-
Ton qirqilebs mis ganmqiqeblebze,
giJebi Tqven xarTo...
isic gemaxsovrebaT, batoni
abel mamardaSvili (respublikuri
fsiqiatriuli saavadmyofos mTava-
ri eqimi) rom Sewuxebul-SeZrwu-
nebuli iyo misi yofili paciente-
bis politikur arenaze xilviT,
Tumca, profesiuli eTikidan gamom-
dinare maT vinaobas ar asaxelebda.
maSinve vikiTxe, vici, erTi ka-
cia eWvmitanili `giJobaSi~, danar-
Cenebi vinRa arian-meTqi? _ aravin
damikonkreta.
cxonebulma givi grigoliam
(fsiqiatri) miTxra, dReisaTvis 75
000 adamiania saqarTveloSi iseTi,
romelTa quCaSi siaruli kontro-
lis gareSe, safrTxes uqmnis nebis-
mier gamvlelso. es is kategoriaa,
romelsac mudmivad esaWiroeba eqi-
mis zedamxedveloba da medikamente-
bio, _ 2001 weli iyo...
isev batoni mamardaSvilis
sityvebi minda gavixseno, romelic
jer kidev 1997 wels Tqva: _ `ro-
desac erTmaneTs adareben parlamen-
tsa da sagiJeTs, gadaWarbebulad
sulac ar meCveneba, radgan, ar ar-
sebobs adamianTa iseTi dajgufeba,
sadac ramdenimes mainc ar hqondes
gadaxrili fsiqika... yvela norma-
luri azrovnebis rom iyos, arc
mtroba iqneboda, arc omi, arc eq-
scesebi~...
axla ra xdeba ar vici, magram
rac demokratiisken `srafva~ da-
viwyeT, rogorc maSin gavarkvie,
arCevnebis win, arcerT deputato-
bisa Tu prezidentobis kandidats
fsiqiatriuli Semowmeba ar gauv-
lia.
samwuxarod, ver vixseneb sru-
lad mis gvar-saxels, magram gaxma-
urebuli ambavia, _ aSS-Si erTer-
Ti saprezidento arCevnebisas, erT-
erTma prezidentobis kandidatma
kiTxvaze: _ `ra damokidebuleba
gaqvT fsiqiatrTan?~ _ upasuxa: _
`mxolod orjer mqonda fsiqiatr-
Tan viziti, imitom, rom uZiloba
mawuxebda~. Cveni sazomiT amgvar
umtkivneulo aRiarebaze imxela
xmauri atexa aSS-is masmediam, rom
prezidentobis maZiebelma saswra-
fod moxsna Tavisi kandidatura.
am gaxsenebaze is kadrebi gamax-
senda, `rusTavi-2-Si~ miwveuli sa-
akaSvili Jurnalist gogonebs rom
eWylopineboda raRac uazrobebs da
damaxasiaTebeli kiskisiT karebis
gaxurvisTanave erTma meores rom
uTxra xiTxiTiT, au, es marTla ra
magari giJiao da... interviu Camo-
arTves.
ukvirT, ratom uyvars
baton mixeils brWyviala
gasarTobebio, _ brWyvia-
li bavSvebs, kaWkaWs da
fsiqiurad aSlilebs uy-
varT. batoni mixeili,
asakidan gamomdinare, bavSvi rom ar
aris, faqtia; miuxedavad caSi na-
vardis siyvarulisa, kaWkaWic ar
aris; verc imas vityvi rom giJia,
radgan, veWvob, giJi arasdros ity-
vis: _ `qveynis pirveli giJi var da
simarTles yovelTvis vityvi!~
kargad maxsovs misi sityvebi,
romelic `kurierSi~ Tqva isteri-
uli qadiliT, cocxlad davmarxav
yvelaso da Seasrula; amjerad,
droebiT bolo imitom, rom anak-
liasa da yulevs Soris axali qa-
laqis aSeneba ganuzraxavs, lazika
erqmevao da Tan sadRacidan 500
000 kacis Casaxlebasac apirebs
axal lazikaSi _ da Seasrulebs,
radgan misnairebma akviateba ician.
misTvis ra mniSvneloba aqvs, is
500 000 kaci vin iqneba, Cineli,
e.w Turqi mesxi, indoeli Tu buri,
mTavaria akviatebas daikmayofi-
lebs, aba, 500 000 Casasaxlebeli
qarTveli saidan unda gamoCekos?
axla ukve darwmunebiT SemiZlia
vTqva, rom abel mamardaSvilis
marTlac araerTi yofili pacienti
yofila politikur sarbielze.
isic marTali yofila, rom adamian-
Ta jgufSi warmoudgenelia ramde-
nime gadaxrili fsiqikis ar iyos,
_ eseni xom `erTi gundi~ arian Ta-
vis liderianad; eseni xom gundu-
rad angreven saqarTvelos da gun-
duradve aSeneben wyalwasaReb ra-
Rac xidebs, gundurad apirkeTeben
Senobis mxolod fasadebs, gundu-
rad moswonT quTaisi, baTumi, siR-
naRi Tu mestia, gundurad dadian
yvelgan da gunduradve gahyvirian,
Cven erTi gundi varTo...
dadga dro, gavarkvioT, mainc
ramdeni fsiqiurad aSlilia 2011
wlis dekembris monacemebiT saqar-
TveloSi?
imdeni, ramdensac kidev sjera
mixeilis zRaprebis; amas damatebu-
li imdeni, ramdensac kidev sjera,
rom isini, vinc yvelaze xmamaRla
yvirian, rom opozicionerebi arian,
marTla opozicionerebi arian; im-
deni, ramdenic ori groSis fasad
Tavs ityuebs da miSas gundis sa-
sargeblod aRiarebs, rom bednie-
rad cxovrobs; imdeni, ramdensac
saqarTvelo fexebze hkidia da am-
bobs qarTveli varo, imdeni... _ Za-
lian, Zalian bevri imdeni...
maia WeliZe
mainc ramdeni giJiasaqarTveloSi?
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`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria
respublikelebis erT-eerTi li-
deri levan berZeniSvili.
_ administraciuli resur-
sis, saarCevno garemos, saSinao
viTarebis, sagareo politikis
gaTvaliswinebiT am opoziciur
gaerTianebas, romelic xeli-
suflebis alternativaa, aqvs
gamarjvebis Sansi.
Cvenc swored aqedan amovdi-
varT: viTvaliswinebT, rasac Ca-
idens xelisufleba... rac SeiZ-
leba man Caidinos, amisda miu-
xedavad, mainc vapirebT gamarj-
vebas. es imitom, rom seriozu-
lad gvaqvs xalxis mxardaWeris
imedi.
_ mereda,es saxelisuflebo
arxebi Tqven survilsa da
moTxovnebs gaiTvaliswineben?
_ arCevnebis win televizi-
ebma uari Tqvan debatebze, es
niSnavs, uari Tqvan fulze da
reklamaze. Tuki televizias
aravin uyurebs, maSin iq xom
adgili ar eqneba saakaSvilis
gandidebas? amitom am televi-
ziebSi debatebi gaCndeba, magram
gaCndeba ufro gvian, vidre ad-
re, rogorc maT es sCveviaT.
Tumca Cven visargeblebT im
patara xvrelebiTac ki, romle-
bic gaCndeba am televiziebSi.
imedi gvaqvs, rom cota ufro
vrclad viqnebiT warmodgenili
pirvel arxze, vidre es moxde-
ba `rusTavi-2~-ze da `imedze~,
magram kidev vimeoreb, patara
televiziebi, maT Soris isini,
romlebic mauwyebloben mTel
saqarTveloze, vTqvaT `maest-
ro~- Tbilisze da regionebze,
magaliTad, `kavkasia~... amave
dros, regionalur televizeb-
zec gavalT, rogoric aris
`25-e arxi~-baTumSi, rogoric
aris `hereTi~ da a.S. da a.S.
yvelafriT visargeblebT, sadac
ki SeiZleba Cveni gamoCena.
_ televiziebTan mimarTeba-
Si ar SemiZlia upasuxod dav-
tovo is kampania, rasac e.w.
`saxelisufleboebma~ `qarTuli
ocnebis~ prezentaciis dros
mimarTes: am nacisturma arxeb-
ma qarTuli inteligencia daZ-
velebul saxeebad moixsenes...
_ nacionalur moZraobas
xels ar unda aZlevdes daZve-
lebul saxeebze laparaki, rad-
gan maTi problema swored ama-
Sia: maT dauZveldaT preziden-
ti. amoewura vada da wasvla ar
unda. Zveli vin aris, gamosacv-
leli da naftalinSi Casadebi,
CvenTvis cnobilia.
ramdeni, ityvian Zveli saxe-
ebio, imdenjer moqalaqeebi
CvenTan erTad igulisxmeben, ma-
galiTad, mixeil maWavarians,
romelic SevardnaZesTan erTad
ramdenime aTeuli welia ukve
politikaSia... magaliTad, mixe-
il saakaSvils, romelic ukve
oci welia, ar Sordeba poli-
tikur arenas. miTumetes, ukve
TiTqmis 10 welia, rac prezi-
dentia da a.S. amitom Zveli sa-
xeebis mocileba rom unda
xalxs, imitom moswons axali
saxe-ivaniSvili.
_ batono levan, ra prob-
lemebi SeiZleba Seeqmnas
opozicias?
_ rodesac xelisuflebas
TbilisSi xmas aZlevs 26% da
romelime raionSi 99%-ia es
maCvenebli-ukve problemaa Cven-
Tvisac, TqvenTvisac da patios-
nebisTvisac. 26% Tu gaqvs Tbi-
lisSi, ratom unda gqondes
99% marneulSi, miSaa? ra ase-
Ti auSene da gaukeTe marne-
uls? maTTvis xom aravis ara-
feri gansakuTrebuli gaukeTe-
bia? ese igi, imas niSnavs, rom
iq patiosani kenWisyra ar mim-
dinareobs. amitom Cven Sevecde-
biT, rom swored marneulSi,
javaxeTSi da sxva aseT adgi-
lebSi SevideT da aseve vizru-
noT imaze, rom maT siaSi ar
aRmoCndes romelime qarTuli
regioni.
_ Tumca arc am mxriv aris
saqme mainc da mainc kargad,
radgan opozicia, dameTanxmebiT
da samegrelosac e.w. proble-
mur regionad miiCnevs, ra aris
amis mizezi da ras apirebT am
tendenciis gamosasworeblad?_
_ diax. geTanxmebiT. vfiq-
rob, sakmaod didi samuSao gv-
aqvs samegreloSi. rogorc Cans,
iq ufro iolad daTeses SiSi,
es aris batoni axalias faqto-
ri, es aris xelisuflebis gan-
sakuTrebuli interesis faqto-
ri...
Torem, Cven erTnairebi varT
qarTvelebi yvelgan: samegre-
loSi, guriaSi, imereTSi da sa-
dac gnebavT... mixeil saakaS-
vils samegreloSi sakmaod ma-
Rali reitingi aqvs garkveuli
mizezebis gamo. ar unda dagva-
viwydes, rom samegrelom is
aRiqva misi saqmis gamkeTeblad,
roca SevardnaZe iqna damxobi-
li. SevardnaZes mxedrionisa da
im samoqalaqo dapi-
rispirebis gamo sa-
megreloSi Zalian
dabali reitingi hq-
onda. gasagebia, rom
mixeil saakaSvili
jer ezizRebodaT
samegreloSi, ro-
gorc SevardnaZis
yma da SvilisTvis
eduardis damrqmevi
da mere Seiyvares,
rogorc eduardis
Camomgdebi da imis
ganmmartebeli, rom
Svils SevardnaZis
gamo ki ara, aramed simamris ga-
mo davarqvi eduardio. Seicva-
la damokidebuleba da is gmi-
rad iTvleboda. Cvenc SegviZ-
lia es viTareba gamovcaloT,
radgan mixeil saakaSvilma amo-
wura Tavisi Sansebi da SesaZ-
leblobebi mTel saqarTvelo-
Si, maT Soris, samegreloSi,
amitom iqac vimuSavebT.
_ rasac xelisuflebasTan
mebrZoli Zalebi gvpirdebian,
SesaZloa, amgvari forulirebi-
Tac gamovxatoT _ Tu ginda
mSvidoba, emzade omisTviso...
es arCevnebi mRelvarebis gare-
Se, albaT, ar Caivlis da ram-
denad mosalodnelia xmebis da-
sacavad saxalxo gamosvlebis
organizeba?
_ principuli sakiTxia: xe-
lisuflebas arCevnebiT
vcvliT, Tu arCevnebis gareSe.
arCevnebiT Secvla gulisxmobs
yvelafers. maT Soris, im Sem-
TxvevaSi, Tu xelisufleba ar-
Cevnebis Sedegebs ar aRiarebs,
uaryofs, gaayalbebs, maSin mo-
salodnelia yvela xerxiT ar-
Cevnebis Sedegebis dacva. es iq-
neba quCis aqciebi da a.S. da a.S.
ubralod, Cven migvaCnia, rom
quCis aqciebiT xelisufleba ar
unda SevcvaloT, magram es ar
niSnavs, rom arsenalidan amovi-
RoT romelime saSualeba, ro-
melic dagvWirdeba xmebis dasa-
cavad.
xmebis dasacavad mivmarTavT
yvela nebdarTul xerxs. erTa-
derTi, rac minda giTxraT: Ta-
vi da Tavi aris arCevnebi da iq
gamarjveba. Cven Tu arCevnebSi
gavimarjveT, mere saakaSvili
mogvcems am gamarjvebas, Tu ar
mogvcems, Cven mas mainc avi-
RebT. anu gamarjvebuli Tu vi-
qeniT, xalxma Tu mogvca xma,
Cven am xmebs ar davkargavT da
amis iluzia nuravis eqneba,
rom Cven movugebT 20:0-s da
ityvian, Tqven waageTo-ara, ase
ver moxdeba. yvelaferi gakeT-
deba imisTvis, rom es xmebi da-
vicvaT.
_ anu amjerad aRar imoqme-
debs SiSis sindromi da xalxi
xmebis dasacavad gamova? amis
imedi arsebobs?_
_ warmoidgineT, Tqven mie-
ciT xma biZina ivaniSvils... da-
viTvaleT es xmebi Tqven moigeT
da mere geubnebian, me Seni az-
ri fexebze mkidia, moige, magram
mainc waageo..ra Tqma unda, xal-
xi daicavs Tavis xmas da Cvenc
davicavT xalxs. xalxi da Cven
erTad davicvaT gamarjvebas. Tu
xalxi xmas iZleva, is gulsac
iZleva da xmis damcvelic aris.
Tuki wavageT da xalxs da-
vabraleT-ki mogvces, magram
gagviyalbeso, magram am dros
realurad ar mouciaT xma, ma-
Sin xalxi ar gamova.
_ sxvaTaSoris, sul axla-
xan Tqvenma Zmam, daviT berZe-
niSvilma sakmaod saintereso
kiTxva dasva: aqvs Tu ara kaxa
benduqiZesa da prezidentis bi-
Zas Temur alasanias, ruseTis
moqalaqeoba?
_ axla saqarTvelos prezi-
dentma rom biZina ivaniSvils
ukanonod da rac mTavaria, gau-
azreblad da panikaSi Cavard-
nilma CamoarTva moqalaqeoba-es
sruliad naTelia. imitom rom,
xelisuflebis iseTi momxreebi,
rogoricaa gia nodia da viRa-
cebi... amboben, rom es ar iyo
Wkvianuri saqcieli. Semcdari
xelisufleba aRelda Zalian,
Secda, magram, rogorc Zveli
romaelebi gvaswavlian: Secdo-
ma adamianuria, araadamianuri
da suleluri aris-SecdomaSi
gajiuteba.
mixeil saakaSvili Secda-ga-
sagebia, axla unda gamoasworos
Tavisi Secdoma da aRudginos
biZina ivaniSvils moqalaqeoba,
Tu amas ar gaakeTebs, es niS-
navs, rom igi Tavis SecdomaSi
gajiutdeba. Sesabamisad, yovel-
Tvis darCeba kiTxva _ rogor,
kaco? alasanias-ruseTis gene-
rals, fsb-s generals, ekuTvnis
saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba, kaci
ruseTis interesebs icavda gae-
roSi da ar ekuTvnis es biZina
ivaniSvils, romelmac yvela
qarTuli Zeglis aRdgenaze iz-
runa? es gaugebaric iqneba da
usindisobac.
mixeil saakaSvili am moqa-
laqeobas xom `upragonod~ ari-
gebs? saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba
aqvs magaliTad, naxevar ukrai-
nas...da Zalian bevrs aqvs. gvit-
rialeben am qarTul paspor-
tebs, aqaoda, xom gvaCuqeTo.
amerikelebs aZleven, Cinelebs
aZleven....visac gauxardebaT yve-
las.
da qarTvels moqalaqeoba
waarTva? Tan iseT adamians, ro-
melic daibada aq, gaizarda aq,
mTeli cxovreba rasac miaRwia,
Tavisi qveynisTvis zrunvas mo-
axmara... Zalian arasworia da
Sesabamis politikur pasuxsac
miiRebs. amitom mixeil saakaS-
vilisTvis ufro sasargebloa
aRudginos moqalaqeoba, vidre
ar aRudginos.
axla vnaxoT, Tu is ver ga-
akeTebs swor daskvnas, miiRebs
Zalian swor pasuxs qarTveli
xalxisgan. yvela dRe, roca ar
ubrunebs moqalaqeobas, aris
dakarguli mixeil saakaSvilis-
Tvis da miniWebuli biZina iva-
niSvilisTvis. me darwmunebuli
var, rom gaerkveva amaSi yvela
da qarTvel xalxs es ar SeeS-
leba.
rac Seexeba ruseTTan urTi-
erTobas...me pirdapir getyviT:
qarTveli xalxis moTxovna
aris ruseTTan urTierTobebis
daregulireba.
mixeil saakaSvili ruseTTan
urTierTobas ver da ar daare-
gulirebs, am dros qarTveli
xalxis moTxovnaa daareguli-
ro. Tu Cemi ar gjeraT, Caixe-
deT gamokiTxvebSi. xalxi iTx-
ovs amas. Sesabamisad, xalxi si-
namdvileSi iTxovs, saakaSvili
ar iyoso...
_ ese igi, ruseTTan urTi-
erTobis daregulirebis qveteq-
sti saakaSvilis gadayenebaa?-
_ ra Tqma unda, rodesac
xalxis ZiriTad masa ambobs _
rac ufro bevrjer dauZaxebssaakaSvili ruseTis agents
biZina ivaniSvils, miT ufro met xmas miiRebs ivaniSvili...
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daaregulire urTierToba ru-
seTTan da mere ekiTxebi, saa-
kaSvils SeuZlia es da _ ara,
ar SeuZliao gpasuxobs....nu, ax-
la orjer oris angariSi yve-
las SegviZlia.
molaparakeba ar iqneba
iolia magram Cven Sansi gvaqvs,
mixeil saakaSvils Sansi ar
aqvs. me aseve minda moveswro im
pirvel nabijebs, romelsac sa-
qarTvelo evrokavSirisken ga-
dadgams, es SesaZlebelia, mag-
ram mixeil saakaSvilTan erTad
es aris gamoricxuli. da imi-
tom ki ara, rom ar unda... mi-
Sas Zalianac unda saqarTvelo
natosa da evrokavSirSi, ubra-
lod, aseTi mmarTvelobis pi-
robebSi gamoricxulia an nato,
an evrokavSiri. amdeni tyui-
lis, amdeni yalbi dapirebis da
amdeni sisulelis, magaliTad,
lazikis- am sisulelis Semdeg
natoSi ar gvelodebian.
_ saakaSvilis axali proeq-
ti `lazika~ axseneT, rogorc
mivxvdi, TvliT, rom es gaday-
rili fulia?_
_ ara, me vTvli, rom fuli
ar gadaiyreba da arc araferi
gakeTdeba. me vTvli, rom es ga-
dayrili sityvebia da ra Tqma
unda, araferi gakeTdeba. Tu
petre pirvels baZavs da Waob-
Si aSenebs... man aaSena qalaqi,
romelsac hqonda funqcia. is
unda gamxdariyo ruseTis mTava-
ri qalaqi da gaxda kidec, mTa-
varic da deda-qalaqic da ru-
seTis fanjara evropaSi da a.S.
ori momentia: mixeil saa-
kaSvili petre pirveli ar
aris. hgavs mxolod erTi niS-
niT-aris tanmaRali. meti ra
aqvs petre pirvelTan saerTo?
masaviT reformatorobiT ver
daikvexnis. petre pirveli ho-
landiaSi colis mosayvanad ki
ar wavida_durgloba da mSeneb-
loba iswavla. petre pirveli,
rom yofiliyo mixel saakaSvi-
li saqarTvelos sanaosnos
aRadgenda, gemebs gaakeTebda,
rac petre pirvelma gaakeTa.
mixeil saakaSvili istori-
uli Sedarebis TvalsazrisiT,
petre pirvelTan da aTaTurq-
Tan Sesadarebeli kaci ar aris.
me vici, visac unda Sevadaro.
yvelaze metad saa-kaSvili misTvis sa-Zulvel aslan abaSi-Zes hgavs. mere ra, romis dabali iyo da es ma-Ralia? mainc imas hg-avs, imasac aseTi `ime-di~ da `rusTavi-2~ hq-onda, televizia `aWa-ra~ hyavda analogiurmdgomareobaSi. imasacase ver ubedavdnen si-marTlis Tqmas Tavi-sianebi da isic milio-nebs xarjavda sakuTa-ri xuSturebis dasak-mayofileblad.
masac zustad ise Semoefcq-
vna xelSi sakuTari qveyana, ro-
gorc amas. imanac iseTi vneba
moutana saqarTvelos aWaris
izolirebiT, rogoric mixeil
saakaSvilma saqarTvelos afxa-
zeTisgan da oseTisgan izoli-
rebiT. ase rom, yvelaze metad
mas hgavs, istoriaSic ver Seva
petre pirvelis da didi re-
formatoris saxeliT. imitom
rom, mixeil saakaSvili aris
kaci, romelmac Tqva, albaT,
erT sul mosaxleze yvelaze
meti tyuili msoflio poli-
tikosebTan SedarebiT.
_ batono levan, am bolo
dros intensiurad vrceldeba
informacia, rom nacionalebi
gadmodian Tqven rigebSi, yove-
li SemTxvevisTvis, iTxoven
amas, ramdenad realuria es ga-
nacxadi?_
_ informacia gvaqvs, saxe-
lebi da gvarebi ara, anu aris
tendencia, rogorc Cans da
aris amaze bevri laparaki, mag-
ram jerjerobiT, arc erTi ase-
Ti seriozuli nabiji-didma na-
cionalma rom datova Tavisi
partia xmauriT da miajaxuna
kari, ara gvaqvs. marTali giTx-
raT, am procesis imedad ar
var. es procesi ki, aucileb-
lad iqneba, magram igi arafers
Secvlis.
Cvens rigebSi misaRebi naci-
onalebi pirvel eSelonebSi ar
arian, anu bokeriam, magaliTad,
axla rom gadaiWras venebi da
Tqvas: ariqa, me, opoziciaSi
gavrbivaro. wavides, sadac unda
iq irbinos, Cvens rigebSi boke-
riebis, adeiSvilebis, merabiS-
vilebis da... nu, axla, pirveli
eSelonis nacionalebis adgili
ar aris, magram Tuki vinme
gulwrfelad mixvdeba, araswor
saqme emsaxureboda, CvenTan ar
mova `respublikelebSi~, magram
Cveni koaliciis romelime par-
tiaSi Tu miva, verafer prob-
lemas, me aq ver vxedav. gaaCnia
vin aris, ra aris da ra gauke-
Tebia?
me imis mTqmeli ar var, rom
nacionalur moZraobaSi yvela
cudi adamiania. ra sisulelea,
ra Tqma unda, respublikur
partiaSi iqneba erTi, ori cu-
di adamiani da nacionalur moZ-
raobaSi iqneba erTi, ori kargi
adamiani, es Cveulebrivi proce-
sia.
anu, amiT imis Tqma minda,
yvelas aqvs Sansi. rogorc
qristianoba ambobs, ukanasknel
wams SeiZleba cxondes adamia-
ni. `politikuri qristianoba~
geubnebaT, rom nacionaluri
moZraobis romelime rigiT, an
saSualo rgolis wevrs didi
Sansi aqvs datovos Tavisi
partia da ipovos axali par-
tia.
_ise, amboben, amitomac Ca-
moarTva mTavarma nacionalma
ivaniSvils moqalaqeobao. anu
ufro Tavisianebis dasaSineb-
lad moqmedebda?_
_marTali giTxraT, gulub-
ryvilo kacia mixeil saakaSvi-
li. im momentSi, roca moqala-
qeobas arTmevda ubralod, ar
icoda ra eqna, patara bavSviviT
iyo gabrazebuli da nawyeni.
emociebs ahyva.
xolo lao-Zim gvaswavla
2500 wlis win Tu ginda dai-
naxo sagani, unda gaTavisuflde
emociebisgan, Tu emociebiT
uyureb sagans, xedav konturebs
da Tu ginda sagani mTlianad
dainaxo, unda dacarielde emo-
ciebisgan.
emociurad ar unda emoqmeda
saakaSvils. unda CaesunTqa,
aTamde daeTvala, gadaetana es
ambavi, ar CamoerTva moqalaqeo-
ba, aramed momzadebuliyo mas-
Tan debatebisTvis.
xom aris is gamocdili po-
litikosi? xom amtkicebs, rom
msoflio donis politikosia...
xom amtkicebs imas, rom mixeil
saakaSvili aris politikis ge-
niosi da es aris axalgamoCeki-
li viRac diletanti...gamoiwvi-
os ra, debatebSi da gaacamtve-
ros satelevizio debatebSi:
gamocdili politikosi saakaS-
vili anadgurebs gamoucdel
ivaniSvils da amTavrebs am sa-
kiTxs.
rad unda amdeni nerviulo-
ba? arada, imitom ar unda de-
batebi, rom waagebs.
imitom rom, aranairi ga-
mocdileba man ver miiRo. ai, me
getyviT, risi gamocdileba mii-
Ro saakaSvilma xelisufleba-
Si: rom aravin gaakritikebs,
rom yvelas daiWers, yvelani
cixeSi.... meti ra gamocdileba
miiRo? politikuri debatebi
iswavla? politikuri opozi-
cia gavanadgureo, amiT traba-
xobda kaci. nebismieri saxelm-
wifo moRvawe unda iyos dain-
teresebuli, rom qveyanas hyav-
des Zlieri opozicia. dRes Sen
xar, xval-opoziciaa da qveyana
hgiebs aw da maradis, ukuniTi
ukunisamde, amaze rogor ar un-
da fiqrobdes? magram, saakaSvi-
li sxvanairad fiqrobs. is fiq-
robs, rom qveyana kargia, manam
sanam saakaSvilia da Tu miSa
ar iqneba `direqtori~, maSin es
qveyanac nu iqneba, ra proble-
maa?aseTi martivi, pirutyvuli
egoizmi Sors ver waiyvans qve-
yanas. marTali giTxraT, es am-
bavi-sainkasacio manqanis mopar-
vis, pirdapir metyvelebs am xe-
lisuflebis sacodaobaze, kar-
gi, manqana moipare, moipare, ma-
Sin gaasamarTle ra, es xalxi...
raRac hqeni. irkveva, rom uda-
naSaulo iyo es xalxi, irkveva,
rom araviTari gaTeTreba ar
yofila. imitom rom... aba, sad
aris axla?...aha, velode-
biT...roca maT undaT erT dRe-
Si gamoiZieben-xolme da es ra
aseTi rTuli sakiTxi iyo? ban-
kidan banks gamohqonda Tavisi
kuTvnili fuli da iTqva, rom
Zalian mZime danaSaulia-gaaTeT-
res da a.S.
_ am sasamarTlos pirobeb-
Sic ki ver edavebian?
_vera. me am sasamarTlos
pirobebSi xom gamomacxada mi-
xeil saakaSvilma ruseTis agen-
tad? `SnuriT~ aris mibmuli
ruseTis saelCozeo, ase Tqva.
ratom ver gamasamarTla, Tun-
dac am sasamarTloTi? Tu ru-
seTis agenti, jaSuSi da mibmu-
li viyavi, ratom mabogineben
amdens da ager kidev preziden-
tis kritikas vbedav da mis in-
tleqtze uaryofiT azrebs ga-
movTqvam# ,davcini mas, magali-
Tad, rodesac wera-kiTxva eS-
leba-xolme da Z-s da x-s, ro-
ca aurevs xolme.
magaliTad, misi gancxadeba
maqvs wakiTxuli Cemodani, rom
dakarga aeroportSi. visac es
gancxadeba gvinaxavs... Z-s da x-
s urevs, wertili ar icis, mZi-
me ar icis, wera-kiTxva ar icis
kacma. saerTod, ar xmarobs
punqtuaciis niSnebs da es ga-
moqveynebuli iyo `literatu-
rul saqarTveloSi~ _ mixeil
saakaSvilis faqsimile, misi xe-
liT dawerili gancxadeba.
pirvel klasSi maseTebs vag-
debT klasidan... vayenebT kuTxe-
Si.
da roca vici, rom aseTia
da roca vbedav amaze laparaks
me, ruseTis agenti, ratom ar
var gasamarTlebuli?
dResac ivaniSvils raSi
edeba brali? rom ruseTis ka-
cia? ukacravad, es ranairi da-
naSaulia?kargi, vTqvaT, daumt-
kica Tavis momxreebs, rom ru-
seTis proeqtiao, es ase ar
aris, magram dauSvaT da daumt-
kica, mere ra xdeba? vis elapa-
rakeba amas? saqarTveloSi aris
xalxi, visac unda ruseTTan
urTierTobis gaumjobeseba. ra-
xan mixeil saakaSvils ar SeuZ-
lia, visac SeuZlia, ginda pro-
eqti daarqvi da ginda Tengizi,
ra mniSvneloba aqvs amas? mainc
is miiRebs xmebs.
sinamdvileSi, ar aris ruse-
Tis proeqti, magram sasargeb-
lo ar aris miSasTvis ivaniS-
vils kremlis produqti uwo-
dos. saakaSvilisTvis sasargeb-
lo iqneboda imisTvis epova ra-
me kompromati, ver poulobs da
gviyveba am zRaprebs.
9 welia, ruseTSi ar yofi-
la kaci da aris ruseTis pro-
eqti?
ivaniSvili rom ruseTis ka-
ci ar aris, iqedan viciT: nel-
nela, sanam es laparaki mimdi-
nareobda, jer gadazida Tavisi
kapitali ruseTidan ucxoeTSi,
axla mxolod erTi mesamedia
misi kapitalisa ruseTSi da
ori mesamedi ucxoeTSi, saqar-
TveloSi ar aris, radgan aq
aravis araferi kapitali ar
ainteresebs. garda amisa, hyidis
Tavis kapitals ruseTSi da
xom xvdebiT, aseT dros, Seda-
rebiT iafad iyideba. ruseTis
kaci rom yofiliyo ratom ver
gayidda aqamde?
ruseTis kaci vinc iyo, iman
pirdapir ruseTis mTavar orga-
nizacias mihyida Tavisi qoneba,
magaliTad, benduqiZem. ra prob-
lemaa? vinmem rame sayveduri
uTxra benduqiZes? da mixeil
saakaSvils vinmem xma ar misca
imis gamo, rom benduqiZe hyavda
ministrad Tu ra? saqarTvelo-
Si arasodes ar iTvleboda gan-
sakuTrebul danaSaulad rusu-
li faqtori da Cveni ar aris
ruseTis kaci da ra vqnaT? vinc
aris, xom iciT? miSas biZa Te-
mur alasania. TviTon miSa izr-
deboda ruseTis kacad. yvelaze
meti agenti.. .yvelaze meti San-
si, yvelaze ufro `saagento~
periodSi-axalgazrdoba, oqros
wlebi gaatara ruseTSi imperi-
is mTavar teritoriaze. hoda,
iciT ra? ar uSvelis eg ambavi
mixeil saakaSvils, Torem ram-
denic unda imdeni ilaparakos.
unda xelebdakapi-webulma iSromos, ir-binos xalxSi da umt-kicos, rom is kargia,Torem ivaniSvili ru-sisaa da ityvis kaxeT-Si viRac marTla dai-jerebs da miscems xmasivaniSvils, iqneb CveniRvino gayidos ruseT-Sio.
aseve miscemen xmas saqarTve-
los sxva kuTxeebSic, Torem
ruseTis bazari ar vargao, am
tyuils saqarTveloSi xom ara-
vin daijerebs, melasi ar iyos,
Tavi rom daimSvida _ `mkvaxe
iyo is yurZeni da momkveTda
kbilebsao~, aRiaron, rom ruse-
Tis bazridan gamogvagdes, To-
rem bazari uwindeburad mim-
zidvelia TiToeuli saxelmwi-
fosTvis. xolo uvargisi rom
yofiliyo, mTeli msoflio kr-
emlis mso-Si gawevrianebisTvis
ar izrunebda da ar gairjebo-
da.
naTia nodia
yvelaze metad saakaSvilimisTvis saZulvel aslan abaSiZes hgavs, mere ra, rom is dabali iyo da es
maRalia? mainc imas hgavs
6 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
axali qalaqi Sendeba...
lazika!
sawinaaRmdego ra unda mqon-
des!
xom metyvian, aSenebs, xom ar
angrevso?!
vfiqrob, ufro dids da ma-
radiuls angrevs...
es saqarTvelos dangrevaa!
mivyveT Tanmimdevrulad...
yvelam icis, kolxeTis dab-
lobi rTuli geologiuri dab-
lobia. bolSevikebmac Waobs da-
vaSrobT, win ra dagvidgebao,
magram wylis nayva rom iyo, ma-
le mixvdnen da Tavi anebes.
miwisqveSa qanebi sustia da
Warbteniani, specialuri konst-
ruqciebi da miliardebia saWi-
ro, qalaqi daamagro _ amboben
qarTveli specialistebi. ar vi-
ci, iaponelebi ras ityvian...
isini qalaqs Sua zRvaSi aSene-
ben da raRacas moifiqreben, mag-
ram ra dajdeba, daTvala vinmem?
Tu dolarebs ciur mananasaviT
cidan velodebiT. kargi, specia-
listebs ar usmenen... xalxi _
ra sakiTxavia, vis axsovs? Tavi-
anTi mokle gamocdilebiT mainc
Sexedon _ aeroporti ver ga-
dagvixuravs, yovel Semodgoma-
gazafxulze qari Rera-Rera
Slis da miafrens saxuravs... an
erT dRes zRvaSi Caxvetili
dagvxvdes anakliis xidiviT
dagvemxos, Tavze muyaos Tu qvi-
Sis qalaqi, maSin ras gvetyvian?
eWvi geparebaT, rom waiRebs?
kiTxvis damsmelic rom aravinaa
zeviT? vTqvaT, gaigiJes Tavi
`beye~ goroziam an didma mSene-
belma nikoleiSvilma (meti araa
Cemi mteri!) da ar SeiZlebao,
Tqves... orive xom aRmoCndeba
niCabze... xelisuflebaze vambob,
Torem opozicia da xalxi niCab-
ze hyavs da Carecxilic Cvens
prezidents.
gamosavali is aris: moviqce-
viT, rogorc viqceviT es rva
weliwadi. wagebuli oms mogebu-
lad vacxadebT, lamis msoflio
davajeroT da ra moxda, vity-
viT: putini iqneba, ar iqneba, vi-
Raca xom iqneba... viRaca xom iq-
neba mis adgilas da imas davab-
ralebT. fiCoridan gadmoipara
rusi desanti, zRvis wyali (ma-
riliani) gagviria duRabSi da
SevrcxviTo! mTavaria, desanti
daviWireT, evropa da amerika
Cven gviWers mxarso!
me kidev, rogorc am kuTxis
Svils, Cemi dardic maqvs.
vaSenebT anaklias!
me vin mkiTxavs, magram ro-
gorc megrels ar mWirdeba
litvis Tu estoneTis yofili
prezidentis prospeqti anaklia-
Si. me mWirdeba, vTqvaT, iq daba-
debuli kacis, filosofosis,
poetis, ukvdavi megruli `Ce-
las~ avtoris _ pavle akobias
quCa...
galaktionis erTi Canaweri
maxsendeba: Sevedi aleqsandro-
vis baRSi, davinaxe, pavle ako-
bia, nabadmosxmuli, TeTri wve-
riT, skamis kuTxeSi mimjdari
raRacas Wamdao. me rom damina-
xa, Sercxva da wamodgao... bo-
los askvnis: `ra zrdilobiania
megreli kacio!~... adamkuss ara-
fers verCi, magram me Cemi pav-
le akobia ufro metad miRirs...
ar vici, wina fraza qsenofobi-
aSi rom ar CamomerTvas, `gamoc-
dil qsenofobs~, baton robert
sturuas davekiTxebodi, magram
sad vnaxo?... isev Jurnal `tabu-
las~ redaqtors (CorgoleiS-
vils) xom ar davumesijo da
azri vkiTxo...
`wina gvaqvs didi mSeneblo-
bebi da Zalian TavzexelaRebu-
li gegmebio~-o, zustad ase da-
amTavra satelevizio gamosvla
prezidentma, roca axali qala-
qis mSeneblobaze gvauwya. `Tav-
zexelaRebuli~ da `mamali gi-
Ji~ roa, karga xania, darwmune-
buli var, me sxva ubedureba ma-
laparakebs.
cnobilia, rom 1999wels evropis sabWoSigawevrianebisas qar-
Tulma mxarem ikisravaldebuleba, rom 1944wels saqarTvelodangasaxlebul Turq-mes-xebs 2012 wlisTvisukan daabrunebda, maTrepatriacias moaxden-da. es dro kars mogva-dga, Tavad isini _ or-mociaTasi azerbaijan-Sia gamzadebuli, mopa-tiJebas elodebian.
saerTod, oTxasiaTas sul-
zea saubari. vin arian es Tur-
qi-mesxebi, aris rame maTSi qar-
Tuli... survili mainc aqvT qar-
Tvelobis!
rogorc irkveva dadarwmunebuli var, ma-Sin, gadasaxlebisas,aT procentamde Tuiyo qarTveli! amasTiTqmis yvela qarTve-li istorikosi Tu po-litikosi amtkicebs.amis utyuari faqtebiarsebobs. SerCeviT ar-
avin SegvarCevinebs.bevri ambobs, qarTve-li viyavio, gamodis,sityvaze unda vendoT.bevri amasac ar ambobs_ samcxe-javaxeTi Cve-niao, pirdapir gveub-neba. komfaqturi Ca-saxlebis upirobo mo-Txovna aqvT. am mxaresTiTqos ucxotomele-bi akldes!
cota Soridan daviwyeb.
me, piradad, zviad gamsaxur-
dias TviTgamocema `oqros saw-
misidan~ gavige Turqi-mesxebis
Sesaxeb. batoni zviadi Tavidan
mxars uWerda maT, mogvianebiT,
mkveTrad Seicvala azri da ara-
erTxel gamoTqva werilobiT
Tu mitingebze...
1975-76 wlebi iyo, studen-
ti viyavi, Turqi-mesxebis ambavs
mtkivneulad ganvicdidi da Ca-
verTe am erTob saSiS moZraoba-
Si. profesor guram mamulias
kargad vicnobdi. wasul kacze
cuds verafers vityvi, Tavad
sjeroda, albaT da mec marwmu-
nebda, saqarTvelos gadarCenis
Sansi (demografiuli Tvalsaz-
risiT) es ariso! davijere. ma-
mulia xvdeboda mesxebs, Cadio-
da, Camoudiodnen stumrad da
sxvebTan erTad mec vxvdebodi.
maSinac mRrRnida eWvi maT qar-
Tvelobaze, ufro zustad, vfiq-
robdi, qarTul gvarebs Tu da-
ibruneben da TiTo qarTul so-
felSi or-sam ojaxs Tu Cava-
saxlebT, SeiZleba, maTi adapti-
reba moxdes-meTqi!
maT xelmZRvanels sarvarovs
vicnobdi. moxda ise, rom xeli-
suflebam cxra ojaxi guriaSi,
eqvsi _ samegreloSi Caasaxla.
Ramec ki gvaqvs iq, maTTan gaTe-
nebuli Tamila korinTels, ba-
ton gurams da me zugdidis ra-
ionSi, sofel narazenSi rom Ca-
saxldnen, rogorc zugdideli,
ufro aqtiuri viyavi. sarvaro-
vic narazenSi iyo. misi Svili
Tu SviliSvili im weliwads
skolaSi unda Sesuliyo. bavSvs
qarTul skolaSi Seviyvano,
Segvpirda.
gavixareT.
erT dRes zugdidSi var. abe-
salom tuRuSi Semxvda _ zug-
didis muzeumis TanamSromeli,
istorikosi, bavSvobis megobari.
narazenSi xom ar yofilxar-
meTqi, vkiTxe. ara, magram bavSvi
rusul skolaSi SeuyvaniaTo _
miTxra. ver davijere. nacnobi
manqaniani vnaxeT da gavvardiT.
skolaSi mivediT, direqtorma
dagvidastura, aseao! vuxmeT
sarvarovs, movida. ratom daar-
Rvie piroba-meTqi? ra pirobao?
_ mpasuxobs. piroba, rom bavSvi
qarTul skolaSi iswavlida.
mogclia erTi, romeli qarTve-
li Sen myavxaro?! _ ukmexad mo-
maxala. _ aba, vin var, Seni az-
riT? _ waviwie. vina xar da meg-
relio! _ damiwuna qarTveloba.
veci yelSi... arc is CamomrCa da
atyda erTi ambavi... Cagvixta di-
reqtori SuaSi. sarvarovs Tavi-
siani qalebi Tu colebi wamo-
eSvelnen da lamis gagvwewon...
aris sirbili, jikavi, gineba...
gavige, lomaia modis, lomaiao...
Tavmjdomare iyo (Cveni ganaT-
lebis yofili ministris mama).
abesalomma miCurCula, Cqara
movtydeT, Torem es kaci iseTi
oxeri vinmea, Cvenc da sarva-
rovs erTad Cagvyris cixeSio.
CavxtiT manqanaSi da gamovi-
qeciT.
Cveni nacnobi mZRoli ufro
saintereso kaci aRmoCnda. maSin
rom momiyva anegdoti, dResac
maxsovs.
megreli ambobs, ra ucnauri
xalxia es qarTvelebio? ratom-
meTqi? _ CaverTe anegdotSi,
qarTveli afxazs eubneba _ qar-
Tveli xaro! afxazi iklavs
Tavs _ ara var qarTvelio! meg-
reli iWaWeba _ ager var, qarT-
velio! ar xar qarTvelio, _ pa-
suxobs qarTveli...
ase ukuRmarTad aris Cveni
saqmeo _ askvnis igi.
eseni Tu qarTvelebi arian,
kargad yofila Cveni saqmeo!
mokled, rogorcirkveva, Turqi-mesxe-bisTvis Sendeba qala-qi lazika!...
amitom Sendeba esqalaqi da ara saqarT-velodan sakuTari oj-axebis sarCenad gaqce-uli marTla qarTve-lebisaTvis!
es iqneba didi tragedia.
miuxedavad Cemi didi pati-
viscemisa, mwerali naira gelaS-
vili maTi Camosaxlebis momxrea
dResac. aseve, ramdenadac vici,
`respublikelebic~ uWeren mx-
ars, raSic verc erTs ver dave-
Tanxmebi.
am azris oponentad vrCebi
da mtradac!
miT umetes, maTi kompaqtu-
rad Casaxleba nebismier kuTxe-
Si _ im mxares unda gamoeTxo-
vo! axla guria da samegrelo
mivayoloT samaCablosa da afxa-
zeTs?...
Turqebis gamqarT-veleblebi varT Cven?!
oTxasiaTas TurqserT qalaqSi rom daa-saxleb, aT-TxuTmetweliwadSi, axal avto-nomiur warmonaqmnsmovimkiT...
axlaxan marneulSi viyavi.
didebuli mwerali, batoni no-
dar wuleiskiri amJamad iq
cxovrobs da movinaxule. cent-
rSi, moedanTan gavaCere manqana
da rusTavelis quCa sadaa-meTqi,
or-sam taqsists vkiTxe, Tan
rusulad. ar viciTo! sanam qar-
Tveli kaci ar vipove, davbodi-
alobdi aqeT-iqiT. rogorc iqna,
vipove da _ rusTavelis quCis
TavSi dgaxaro, _ miTxra.
rodemde unda gveZinos yur-
ze?!
ra davaSaveT, ra gveli Se-
vuwviT aseTi, ase rom gvmtrobs
prezidenti, netav macodina da
mere momkla!...
zaur kalandia
SOS! qalaqi lazika Turqi-mesxebis Camosasaxleblad Sendeba!
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7saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
gvveesaubrreeba `̀mrreewvveeleebis~
lideerri batonni gogi TofaZe:
_ batono gogi, biZina ivaniS-
vilis politikaSi mosvlam axali
realoba Seqmna. rogor fiqrobT,
ra Secvala misma gamoCenam?
_ biZina ivaniSvilis qarTul
politikaSi Semosvla mniSvnelo-
vani faqtoria. es kargad daetyo
xelisuflebas _Tu adre mSvidad
grZnobdnen Tavs, saarCevno teqno-
logiebic maT xelSi iyo, axla
SeSfoTebulni arian, radgan ga-
moCnda mZlavri, seriozuli figu-
ra. saxelisuflebo gundis SeS-
foTeba imaSic gamoixateba, rom
maT momavali arCevnebisTvis aqti-
uri mzadeba ukve daiwyes. biZina
ivaniSvils sakuTari qveynisTvis
uamravi sikeTe aqvs gakeTebuli,
rac bunebrivia patriotuli su-
liskveTebiTaa ganpirobebuli. mas
sakmaod ZviradRirebuli proeqte-
bi aqvs dafinansebuli. mecineba
xelisuflebis mxridan mis
winaaRmdeg mimarTul Sav piarze _
zonderbrigadebis dafinansebisa
da sxva iluzorul braldebebze.
droTa ganmavlobaSi xalxSi uime-
doba, nihilizmi Camoyalibda, verc
opoziciam ivarga, radgan saxeli-
suflebo resursi sakmaod Zlieri
gamodga. mniSvnelovani roli Se-
asrula socialurma daZabulobam,
problemebma, rac wlebis manZilze
qarTvel xalxs daugrovda. CemT-
vis kargadaa cnobili ra mdgoma-
reobaa, gansakuTrebiT regionebSi,
xalxi sasowarkveTilebamdea misu-
li. biZina ivaniSvilis gamoCenam
xalxs dakarguli imedi, rwmena
daubruna. xalxi mixvda, rom xe-
lisuflebis gauTavebeli dapire-
bebi sxva araferia Tu ara mxo-
lod winasaarCevno dapireba. biZi-
na ivaniSvilis sakmaod didi upi-
ratesoba swored isaa, rom miuxe-
davad didi finansuri SesaZleb-
lobisa, igi moridebiT saubrobs
imis Sesaxeb, Tu ras gaakeTebs, ar
iZleva haerze cru-dapirebebs. Cem-
Tvis mniSvnelovania, rom man pir-
velive gancxadebaSi soflis me-
urneobis problemebze gaamaxvila
yuradReba. man Tqva, rom soflis
meurneobis asaRorZineblad 1 mi-
liards Cadebs, rac mniSvnelovani
ganacxadia. raionebSi xalxi gaxa-
rebulia, amboben eSvela soflis
meurneobaso, anu im dargs, rome-
lic adre saqarTvelos inaxavda.
gamococxlda, imediT aivso xal-
xi. xelisuflebis dapirebebis mi-
marT xalxs rwmena dakarguli
aqvs, xolo roca ivaniSvili hpir-
deba, yvelam icis, rom igi sity-
vis kacia da dapirebas realobad
aqcevs. mis mimarT uzarmazari
ndobaa.
_ radgan dapirebebs SevexeT,
modiT prezidentis bolo dapire-
ba_ ramdenime weliwadSi naxevar-
milioniani qalaqis aSeneba gavix-
senoT. ramdenad realurad gesaxe-
baT am masStabis proeqtis amuSa-
veba?
_ diax, is dagvpirda, rom
zRvis doneze dabla myof WaobSi
naxevarmilionian qalaqs aaSenebs.
albaT, wamoscda. bevri arqiteq-
tori megobari myavs da maT
vkiTxe amis Taobaze: naxevarmili-
oniani qalaqi rom aSendes, erT
sul mosaxleze, minimum, 100 kv.m.
unda iangariSo. saubari mxolod
binebze ar aris, aramed asaSenebe-
lia saavadmyofo, sabavSvo baRi,
skola da a.S. Tanac amxela qala-
qis marto daproeqtebas unda
wlebi. warmoidgineT, rac unda
iafad aSendes, minimum 300-400
dolari xom jdeba 1 kv.m. 100
kv.m.-s Tu viangariSebT erT sul
mosaxleze, naxevari milioniani
mosaxleobisTvis 50 milioni kv.m.
gamodis, es 400-ze rom gavamrav-
loT jamSi 20 miliards miviRebT.
cxadia, Cveni biujetis Semxedvare
20 miliardis ase gasrola, SeuZ-
lebelia. aqedan gamomdinare aseTi
gauTvleli, ucnauri gancxadebebi,
miuRebelia. am dros, meore mxriv
sakmaod moridebiT Zalian did
programas gvTavazobs biZina iva-
niSvili, romlisac xalxs sjera.
yvelam icis, rom igi ar ityueba
da rasac gvpirdeba aucileblad
gaakeTebs, es xalxma igrZno.
kidev erT problemaze minda
gesaubroT _ bolo xanebSi didi
aJiotaJia aerodromebis mSeneb-
lobasTan dakavSirebiT. kopitna-
ris aerodromi ukve gvaqvs, axla
apireben foTSic aaSenon. aseve, ba-
TumSi, senakSi gvaqvs samxedro
aerodromi. risTvis keTdeba es,
30-40 km.-is daSorebiT ramdeni
aerodromi unda avaSenoT? ibadeba
Zalian didi eWvi. kerZod, bolo
periodSi aSS-sa da irans Zalian
daeZabaT urTierToba. yirgizeTSi
axalma prezidentma daxura sam-
xedro aerodromebi. Tu SeerTebu-
li Statebi iranze Setevas api-
rebs, mas sakuTar bazebs arc
TurqeTi, arc somxeTi (ruseTi ar
miaceminebs), arc azerbaijani ar
miscems. ra gamodis? _ rom Cven
aq placdarms vakeTebT, amden sam-
xedro aerodroms risTvis vaSe-
nebT? Tumca, xelisufleba jer ar
amxels, rom samxedro aerodrome-
bia, magram es, ra Tqma unda, asea.
aqedan gamomdinare, miCndeba sa-
fuZvliani eWvi, rom es aris mza-
deba iranis winaaRmdeg amerikisT-
vis. irani Zalian Zlieri 75 mili-
oniani qveyanaa, es ar aris erayi.
irani industriuli qveyanaa, ro-
melsac kosmosSi Tanamgzavrebi
aqvs gaSvebuli. mas balistikuri
iaraRi aqvs, romelic Tavisuflad
moswvdeba Cvens qveyanas. igi bir-
Tvul iaraRzec muSa-
obs da am mocemuloba-
Si Cven unda gavxdeT
am Setevis obieqti,
xom?! radgan aSS-s
partniori varT, ami-
tom sakuTari qveyana
unda gavwiroT?
_ es xom qveynis
mtrobaze uaresia...
_ ra Tqma unda, ge-
TanxmebiT, aba, sxva ri-
Ti aixsneba, aerodro-
mebis aseTi gacxovele-
buli mSenebloba? meo-
rec, socialurad, eko-
nomiurad gaWirvebuli
qveyana varT, samxedro aerodrome-
bis mSeneblobis ra aucileblobaa,
amas xom asobiT milionebi ar eyo-
fa, es sakmaod SemaSfoTebeli sa-
kiTxia. Cven vxdebiT iranidan dar-
tymis obieqti, ratom unda gavixa-
doT igi mtrad?! Cven am regionSi
yvelaze susti qveyana varT ekono-
mikurad, socialurad, SeiaraRebu-
li Zalebis TvalsazrisiTac. Cven
ver gavuZlebT am dartymas. amis
sapirispirod ivaniSvils qveynis
gadarCenis uamravi realuri prog-
rama aqvs, rac, ra Tqma unda uf-
ro momgebiania xalxisTvis. ra
teqnologiebic ar unda gamoiyenos
xelisuflebam saarCevnod, ara
mgonia, gayalbeba moaxerxon. biZina
ivaniSvils, albaT aqvs sakuTari
xmebis dacvis gegma. ra Tanxasac
xelisufleba aerodromebSi hyris,
es rom soflis meurneobaSi gamo-
iyenon, saqarTvelo ayvavdeba, gaCn-
deba axali bazris gaxsnis perspeq-
tiva. rac niSnavs, rom agugundeba
yvelaferi, gaixsneba sawarmoebi,
dabrundeba qveynidan gaqceuli xa-
lxi, avicilebT migraciul proce-
sebs. rogorc ki saqarTveloSi
normaluri cxovrebis pirobebi
Seiqmneba, dabrundeba xalxi, dRes
soflebi dacarielebulia.
_ marTlac, opoziciuri speq-
tris uSedego brZolis Semdeg
imedi gaCnda, axlaxan sazogadoeb-
rivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocnebac~
dafuZnda. risi imedi, molodini
gaCnda amiT?
_ diax, xalxi gaaqtiurda,
imedi gaCnda. albaT, realurad am-
deni politikuri partia aRar iq-
neba, axla 100-ze meti partiaa
daregistrirebuli. politikuri
speqtri or banakad gaiyofa _ er-
Ti xelisuflebisken wava, meore
biZina ivaniSvilisken. rac Seexeba
filarmoniaSi, `qarTuli ocnebis~
dafuZnebas, mec veswrebodi, xal-
xis did nawils cremlebi mosdi-
odaT, maT dakarguli imedi, rwme-
na daubrundaT. am Sexvedris la-
itmotivi Semdegia _ iyo gvirabi,
romelSic bolo ar Canda da ax-
la sxivi gamoCnda, anu Svela.
xalxs am imeds veRar gauqroben,
veraviTari represiebi, zonderb-
rigadebi veRar SeaCerebs maT. pi-
radad biZina ivaniSvilze xorci-
eldeba zewola sxvadasxva saxiT,
Tundac bankis magaliTi aviRoT.
mec `qarTu bankis~ klienti var
da davrCebi bolomde, mTeli Cemi
aqtivebi am bankSi maqvs, magram
`qarTu banki~ xom biZina ivaniSvi-
lis aqtivebis naxevari procentic
ar aris. konkurenti dainaxes da
laRad veRar grZnoben Tavs, gau-
gonar rameebs sCadian. adre, xeli-
suflebas saarCevno procesi praq-
tikulad privatizebuli hqonda
da brZolas azri ar hqonda. biZi-
na ivaniSvili imitom Semovida po-
litikaSi, rom 7 procentiani ba-
rieri gadalaxos?! bunebrivia mas
sxva ganzraxva da gegmebi aqvs.
gegmebi, romelic xalxma moiwona
da romelTan brZolac Zalian ga-
uWirdeba xelisuflebas.
_ Tumca, batono gogi, saakaS-
vilma aSkara saarCevno kampania
wamoiwyo _ `aSenebs~ axal qala-
qebs da a.S. droze adre xom ar
emzadeba igi arCevnebis Casatareb-
lad, Tundac gazafxulze. am fon-
ze xom ar aris saWiro garkveuli
nabijebis gadadgma, Tu mSvidad
davelodoT arCevnebs?!
_ ar vici, rodis apireben ar-
Cevnebis daniSvnas, magram geTanx-
mebiT, rom saarCevno kampania xe-
lisuflebam aSkarad daiwyo. aris
safrTxe, rom ivaniSvilma aseT
SemTxvevaSi marTlac ver moasw-
ros struqturis Seqmna, regio-
nebSi sando xalxis moZieba. magram
dRes xalxis imedebi, rom raRac
gveSveleba imdenad mniSvnelova-
nia, xalxi aqtiuri iqneba da iva-
niSvili ar darCeba daucveli. sa-
qarTvelos moqalaqeoba ar ekuTv-
nis Turme biZina ivaniSvils. dasa-
cinad gavixadeT saqme mezobel
qveynebSic ki. kacma amdeni sikeTe
gaakeTa qveynisTvis da madliere-
bis niSnad xelisuflebam moqala-
qeoba CamoarTva, msgavsi absurdi
arcerT qveyanaSi ar xdeba. es aS-
kara politikuri zewolaa. xeli-
sufleba mieCvia, rom yvela ukano-
noba unda SerCes. magram dRes si-
tuacia radikalurad Seicvala _
arc dasavleTi, arc CrdiloeTi,
arc evrokavSiri aRar dauWers
mxars ukanonobas. yvelam kargad
icis rom CvenTan yvelaferi rig-
ze ar aris, ician, rom demokratia
mxolod qaRaldzea deklarirebu-
li. dRes gavige gia cagareiSvi-
lis Svili sastikad ucemiaT sax-
lis sadarbazoSi, imitom, rom gia
kritikulad gamovida amaswinaT.
es xalxis aSkara daSinebaa, magram
minda vuTxra xelisuflebas _
xalxi, aRar daSindeba, aRar eSi-
niaT maT. roca dainaxavs, rom per-
speqtiva aRar arsebobs, yvelafer-
ze wava.
_ Tqven axseneT, xalxi aRar
daSindebao. magram ramdenad Senar-
Cundeba es muxti arCevnebamde?
_ ara mgonia, muxti mineldes.
qarTvelma xalxma bevri simware
naxa, aRar daijerebs lazikas aSe-
nebas da sxva msgavs zRaprebs. me-
orec, nu vityviT, rom ivaniSvil-
ma axla daiwyo politikuri moR-
vaweoba, SeiZleba politikaSi axa-
li Semosulia magram igi 6-7 we-
lia sikeTeebs akeTebs, aTasobiT
cnobili moRvawe SimSils gadaar-
Cina, rac umniSvnelovanesia. biZi-
na ivaniSvils guSin ar dauwyia
qveynisTvis sasikeTo saqmeebis ke-
Teba.
_ arsebobs raRac zRvari, ris
zemoTac xelisufleba arCevnebs
veRar ayalbebs. ramdenad aris
dRes mzadyofna, xalxma masiurad
gaakeTos Tavisi arCevani?
_ dRes yvela erTi da igives
ambobs _ gveSvela. ar SeiZleba
ivaniSvilisnair gamocdil, niWier
adamians gaTvlili ar hqondes es
yvelaferi. momaval gamosvlebSi,
albaT igi ufro mets isaubrebs
konkretul programebze. xalxs
aqvs rwmena, rom igi marTali ka-
cia da ar moityuebs. mas SeeZlo
nebismier qveyanaSi mSvidad, la-
Rad ecxovra, magram dabrunda sa-
qarTveloSi, radgan mas gulwrfe-
lad awuxebs qveynis bedi. mas ga-
azrebuli aqvs, rom bevri usiamov-
neba Sexvdeba, magram gadadga es
nabiji _ Tavs movaled Tvlis qve-
yana gadaarCinos. bevri qarTveli
mdidari vici ucxoeTSi moRvawe,
magram aseTi xelgaSlili da qvey-
nis dasabruneblad mondomebuli
aravin minaxavs. imedi maqvs, es yve-
laferi qarTveli xalxis sasike-
Tod dasruldeba.
_ TqvenTvis ra aris `qarTu-
li ocneba~?
_ rac politikaSi movedi, mas
mere erTi da imave poziciaze var.
zogma 5-6 partia gamoicvala imis
mixedviT, Tu sad ufro didi per-
speqtiva eloda. Cveni gundi movi-
da im strategiiT, rom miuRebe-
lia soflis meurneobis mokvla.
dRes, saqarTveloSi sofeli
mkvdaria. batoni biZina igive mo-
sazrebebze, strategiebze saub-
robs da bunebrivia, mxars vuWerT
mas. mTavaria, yvela visac Tavisi
qveynis, STamomavlobis gamarjveba
surs, biZina ivaniSvilis mxares
dadgeba, radgan aq qveynis gadar-
Cenis da ganviTarebis perspeqtiva
Cans. aseTi mZlavri aqamde arsebu-
li arcerTi opoziciuri Zala ar
vyofilvarT. ivaniSvili qveynis
aSkara patriotia da mas unda
qveynis sasikeTod Secvla. xalxis
survilic xom es aris. iqamde mi-
vida xelisufleba, rom parlamen-
ti `qarTu bankis~ winaaRmdeg Re-
bulobs kanonebs, es ubralod sa-
saciloa. imedianad var, rom eSve-
leba qveyanas, Tu xalxi erTad
dadgeba da im programas miiRebs,
rasac es didebuli qarTveli ka-
ci gvTavazobs. Cveni gundi gver-
diT daudgeba mas.
Tamar SveliZe
gogi TofaZe: gogi TofaZe: `yvelam icis, rom biZina ivaniSviliar ityueba da rasac gvpirdeba,aucileblad gaakeTebs~
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-ssaxalxo partia da konser-
vatorebi respublikelebTan,
Tavisufal demokratebsa da bi-
Zina ivaniSvilTan erTad, saar-
Cevno blokSi gaerTiandebiT.
amave dros, gavrcelebul ganca-
debaSi aRninuli iyo, rom Tqven
individualuradac iTanamSrom-
lebT kolaiciasTan. ra formiT
miiRebs monawiloebas saxalxo
partia da konservatorebi koa-
liciis muSaobaSi?
-jer politikuri bloki
Seqmnili ar aris, imitom rom
arCevnebi jer daniSnuli ar
aris, mogexsenebaT, saarCevno
bloki arCevnebis daniSvnis Sem-
deg SeiZleba Seiqmnas. ukve mi-
viReT gadawyvetileba, rom er-
Toblivi politikuri saqmiano-
ba gvqondes. aseT dros pirov-
nulad CaverTvebiT da ara par-
tiulad. koaliciis muSaobaSi
ki, mec da zviad ZiZiguric, ro-
gorc aRniSnuli iyo gancxade-
baSi, CaverTvebiT Cvens politi-
kur gundebTan erTad.
-TTavisufal demokratebTan
da ?espubliklebTan erTad Tu
igegmeba partiaSi Tqveni gawev-
rianeba?
-maTi partia calke Seiqmne-
ba da Semdeg ase vTqvaT, saar-
Cevno bloki.
-TTqven brZaneT, rom saarCev-
no bloki mxolod arCevnebis
win Seiqmneba. ramdeni xniT ad-
re iqneba es SesaZlebeli?
-saarCevno bloki iqmneba mas
Semdeg, rac arCevnebi gamocxad-
deba, Semdeg xdeba partiebis
daregistrireba da daregistri-
rebuli partiebisgan, rogorc
wesi, arCevnebamde, ormoci
dRiT adre iqmneba bloki.
-ooficialurad, arCevnebs
2012 wlis oqtombris bolo
kviras uwevs Catareba, Tumca,
dRes xelisuflebis qmedebebs
Tu gansazRvravT, yvela para-
metriT es aris winasaarCevni
piar-kkampania. Zalian bevri saub-
robs imaze, rom saqarTveloSi
vadamdeli saparlamento arCev-
nebi dainiSneba. ramdenad SeuS-
lis xels vadamdeli arCvnebis
daniSnvna Tqvens saarCevno
bloks?
-rac male dainiSneba arCev-
nebi, miT male Camoyalibdeba
bloki da es xelisSemSleli
ver iqneba. me marTali giTxraT,
ar viziareb im mosazrebas, rom
riggareSe arCevnebisken midis
saqme. mTeli rigi niSnebia, ro-
melic amas ar adasturebs. pen-
siebis zrda seqtembris Tvidan
Caido biujetSi da es CemTvis
mTavari niSania.
-mmxolod es niSani ganapiro-
bebs imas, rom arCevnebis daniS-
vna Semodgomazea gansazRvru-
li?
-ara, es erTi niSani ar ga-
napirobebs, Tumca, vfiqrob,
mniSvnelovani niSania.
-jjerjerobiT arc saarCevno
blokia Seqmnili da arc ivaniS-
vilis partiaa Camoyalibebuli.
Tqven Zalian bevrjer giTqvamT,
rom yvelaze didi samuSao re-
gionebSia Casatarebeli. moesw-
reba Tu ara saqarTvelos rai-
onebSi mosaxloebas-
Tan muSaobis Catare-
ba, maSin rodesac xe-
lisufleba yoveldRi-
urad sxvadasxva qa-
laqsa Tu sofelSi
atarebs saarCevno kam-
panias da mosaxleobas
xvdeba?
-vadebi SezRudeb-
lia, magram moswreba
SeiZleba. axali velo-
sipedis gamogoneba sa-
Wiro ar aris. unda
dafuZndes rionuli
organizaciebi, Camoyalibdes
ofisebi da unda daiwyon muSa-
oba. saWiroa beWduri masalis
darigeba, gamoices gazeTi da
a.S..
-TTu xelisuflebam arCevnebi
gazafxulze daniSna, 15 ianvram-
de saqarTvelSi saaxalwlo
samzadisia, partiuli struq-
turis CamoyalibebisTvis Zalin
mcire dro xom ar rCeba?
-bunebrivia, ufro garTul-
deba, Tumca moswreba SesaZle-
belia.
-ZZalian optimisturad xarT
ganwyobili...
-am struqturebSi xalxis
gawevrianebis problema ar aris.
darwmunebuli var, rogorc ki
gaixsneba ofisebi, xalxi denas
daiwyebs. sazogadoeba am
struqturebis gaxsnas moelis
da maTi ZaliT mozidva da sa-
reklamo kampaniis Catareba ar
dagvWirdeba.
-TTqven jer kidev rvianis pe-
riodidan saubrobdiT imaze,
rom Tu saarCevno garemo ar Se-
icvala, arCevnebis mogeba opo-
zicias Zalian gauWirdeboda. ax-
la ra resursi gaaCnia ivaniSvi-
lis bloks imisTvis, rom saar-
Cevno garemos Seucvlelad, Se-
ebrZoloT xelisuflebas, ar-
Cevnebi moigoT da saparlamento
umravlesobiT moxvideT?
-Cven unda SevZloT, rom yve-
la ubanze aTeulze meti damk-
virvebeli gvyavdes, komisii wev-
rze rom aRaraferi vTqvaT da
Cven amas movaxerxebT.
-ddamkvirveblebis gadamzade-
bis procesi ukve mimdinareobs?
-ra Tqma unda. Cven win wa-
vigdeT saqme da Cvens kolega
konservatorebTan erTad, es
procesi didi xania dawyebuli
gvaqvs.
-ssaarCevno garemo Secvlili
ar aris da Tqven, faqtiurad,
carieli xelebiT mogiwevT
brZola...
-ar mgonia, mTlad carieli
xelebiT viyoT. Zalian mniSvne-
lovania sazogadoebis ganwyoba
da is, rac batonma biZina ivaniS-
vilma Semoitana politikaSi-ime-
di da is adamianebi, vinc arCev-
nebze misvlas ar apirebda, ar-
Cevnebze mivlen. garda amisa, Cven
gvaqvs SesaZlebloba, gvyavdes
mravali aTasi momzadebuli dam-
kvirvebeli,rac arsebiTad sxva
pirobebs qmnis arCevnebisTvis.
-ddasavleTi yovelTvis did
rols TamaSobda arCevnebis sa-
boloo Sedegebis saqmeSi. am
SemTxvevaSi, rogor iqneba saq-
me? xelisuflebis warmomadgen-
lebi Riad acxadeben, rom dasav-
leTi mxars ar dauWirs ruseT-
Si gamdidrebul oligarqs...
-fici mwams, bolo makvir-
vebs. dasavleTi acxadebs, rom
saakaSvili qveynis premier-mi-
nistric ki ver iqneba da Tavi-
si prezidentoba unda daasru-
los. ramdenadac visi, es ofici-
aluradac dadasturda, sagareo
saqmeTa ministrma grigol vaSa-
Zem gaakeTa es gancxadeba. saa-
kaSvilis saqme rom dasrulebu-
lia, misi survilis miuxedavad,
es cxadia. saakaSvili rom miuS-
va, is sicocxlis bolomde iq-
neboda premieri an prezidenti.
man konstitucia imitom Secva-
la.
nuca daviTaSvili
koba daviTaSvili: koba daviTaSvili: dasavleTma naTlad mianiSna, rom saakaSvili ver iqneba verc premieri da verc prezidenti,
rac bevr rameze metyvelebs
grZeldeba ss ,,banki qar-
Tus“ klienturis Cvens bankSi
giraod Cadebuli uZrav-mmoZra-
vi qonebis dayadaRebis proce-
si. gasul kviras kidev or
biznes-jjgufs dauyadaRda 5,2
mln. aSS dolaris qoneba, ris
gamoc arauzrunvelyofili da
Sedegad praqtikulad upers-
peqtivo gaxda kidev 3 mln.
aSS dolaris saerTo moculo-
bis sesxebi.
paralelurad daiwyo daya-
daRebuli qonebebis auqcionze
gatana. kerZod, erTi kviris
ganmavlobaSi auqcionze gata-
nilia 19 mln. laris Rirebu-
lebis 26 obieqti sabazro fa-
sis 50 procentad, Tumca, ro-
gorc mosalodneli iyo, praq-
tikulad arc erTi qoneba ar
gayidula da didi albaTobiT
arc gaiyideba: maT naturiT
daisakuTrebs ekonomikis sami-
nistro _ axlo momavalSi,
garkveuli sqemiT, Tavdapirve-
li mflobelebisTvis ukan dab-
runebis mizniT.
aRniSnuli aZlierebs Cvens
eWvebs _ risTvis gamoeyo
wlis miwuruls biujetidan
ekonomikis saministros 160
mln. laris damatebiTi asigne-
bani (am Tanxidan 40 mln. aSS
dolari, anu 66 mln. lari eb-
rael biznesmenebTan garigebis
safasuria) – swored am qone-
bis safasuris biujetSi gada-
saxdelad, am ukanasknelis mi-
erve wina TveSi gamoyofili
Tanxebis xarjze?!
darCenili 94 mln. laria
dakidebuli damokles maxvili-
viT ss ,,banki qarTus“ Tavze
da am Tanxis aTvisebas uTuod
moaxerxeben wlis bolomde
politikurad motivirebuli
teroris gziT, zemoT aRniSnu-
li sqemiTa da biujeturi sax-
srebiT manipulirebis meSveo-
biT, qarTuli sabanko sistemis
mxridan danaSaulebrivi dumi-
lis fonze.
aqve gvinda xazgasmiT aRv-
niSnoT, rom sazogadoebisTvis
kargad cnobili sakanonmdeblo
cvlilebebi, romlebsac ase
,,efeqturad“ da mxolod ss
,,banki qarTus“ winaaRmdeg iye-
neben sadamsjelo operaciad,
gacilebiT met saSiSroebas
uqmnis saqarTvelos sabanko
sistemasa da mTlianad qar-
Tul ekonomikas.
giraos arsisa da pirveli
rigis ipoTekaris statusis
nivelireba, miuxedavad imisa,
mas xelisufleba mizanmimar-
Tulad gamoiyenebs Tu ara ama
Tu im klientisa da Sesabami-
sad mis kreditor bankTan mi-
marTebaSi, avtomatur reJimSi
gamoiwvevs sesxebis uzrunvel-
yofis xarisxis mniSvnelovan
Semcirebas da saTanadod dama-
tebiTi saxsrebis darezervire-
bis aucileblobas; yovelive
es ki, dramatulad Seamcirebs
axali sesxebis gacemis SesaZ-
leblobebs da gazrdis sapro-
cento ganakveTebs.
aseve avtomaturad, vinmes
nebis miuxedavad, gaizrdeba
qveyanasTan dakavSirebuli ris-
kebi, rac gaarTulebs da gaaZ-
virebs saerTaSoriso safinan-
so organizaciebidan sesxebis
miRebas, gamoiwvevs ukve gamo-
yofil sakredito resursebze
saprocento ganakveTebis
zrdas, maT Soris im ucxoeli
investorebisTvis, romlebic
swored saerTaSoriso safinan-
so institutebidan unda dafi-
nansebuliyvnen, ucxouri inves-
ticiebis moculobis mniSvne-
lovani Semcirebis garantire-
buli SedegiT.
qarTuli bankebis erTma na-
wilma ukve gaakeTa garkveuli
reagireba Seqmnil situaciaze
– SeaCeres an Seamcires msxvi-
li kreditebis gacemis sa-
kiTxebis ganxilva. es proce-
si uTuod gagrZeldeba da gaR-
rmavdeba.
aqve SevniSnavT, rom saqar-
Tvelos erovnulma bankma ki-
dev ori TviT gaagrZela ss
,,banki qarTus‘ e.w. Semowmeba,
anu mimdinare operaciebis wi-
naswari kontrolis ganxorci-
eleba (?!).
meore mxriv, ufro inten-
siuri xdeba zewola ss ,,banki
qarTus“ damfuZnebel ss ,,qar-
Tu jgufze“ – sul oriode
dRis win Tbilisis saqalaqo
sasamarTlos administraciul
saqmeTa kolegiis mosamarTlem
daakmayofila ssip Semosavle-
bis samsaxuris auditis depar-
tamentis yovlad usafuZvlo
da dausabuTebeli Suamdgom-
loba ss ,,qarTu jgufis“ gan-
meorebiTi kameraluri Semow-
mebis Catarebis Taobaze.
grZeldeba ss ,,qarTu jgu-
fis“ kuTvnili tvirTebis ga-
miznuli da totaluri dazia-
nebebis procesic, romelic da-
iwyo batoni biZina ivaniSvilis
mier politikuri gancxadebis
gakeTebis Semdgom. a.w. 17 oq-
tombridan dRemde saqarTve-
los teritoriaze Semosuli
da CvenTvis gankuTvnili yvela
teqnika, romelTa saerTo Ri-
rebuleba TiTqmis naxevar mi-
lion aSS dolars Seadgens,
dazianebuli da gamosayeneblad
uvargisia.
imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom
am tvirTis momwodeblebi
msoflioSi aRiarebuli bren-
debi arian, gamoricxuli ar
aris, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo
saerTaSoriso skandalSi gaex-
vios aqedan gamomdinare Znelad
prognozirebadi SedegebiT.
da bolos, kidev erTxel
movuwodebT saqarTvelos xe-
lisuflebas, SeaCeros sxva-
dasxva saxelmwifo struqtu-
ridan ss ,,qarTu jgufis“ sa-
meurneo subieqtebze, maT So-
ris ss ,,bank qarTuze“ usamar-
Tlo zewola, miT umetes, rom
safrTxe eqmneba mTlianad qar-
Tul ekonomikasa da saxelmwi-
fos saerTaSoriso imijs.
nodar javaxiSvili,`banki qarTus~
generaluri direqtori
ss `banki qarTus~ gancxadeba
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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`qarTuli ocnebis~ Stabbi-
na muSaobis aqtiur reJimzea
gadasuli. anton kaTalikosis
#3-Si, mxardamWerTa raodeno-
ba ar wydeba. dRemde sazogado-
ebriv moZraobaSi gaerTianebis
survili 9 576 adamianma ga-
moTqva. gadavwyviteT, `qarTu-
li ocnebis~ ofisTan mivsuli-
yaviT da Sekrebili xalxisgan
mogvesmina, ras fiqroben qar-
Tul ocnebasa da biZina ivaniS-
vilis gadawyvetilebaze, bizne-
sidan _ politikaSi.
Tumca mxardamWerTa umrav-
lesoba sazogadoebaSi arsebul
SiSzec saubrobs da xalxs ga-
mofxizlebisken mouwodeben.
StabbinaSi yofnisas Cemze
waruSleli STabeWdileba 84
wlis qalbatonma moaxdina.
lamzira bebom welSi moxril-
ma, yavarjendayrdnobilma Seno-
bamde Zlivs moaRwia, SenobaSi
Sesasvleli kibeebi ki axalgaz-
rdebis daxmarebiT aiara. gamao-
ca am qalbatonis enTuziazmma,
albaT SemarTebiT, Tavganwir-
viT, bevr axalgazrdas kidev
ajobebs. darwmunebuli var,
lamzira bebos magaliTs bevri
adamiani mibaZavs...
arCil akobia, `qarTuli
ocnebis~ wevri _ ukve didi xa-
nia sakuTar qveyanaSi devnilad
qceuli TbilisSi vcxovrob.
amas kidev Tu cxovreba hqvia,
cxvrebiviT dagvatareben win da
ukan xan sad Segvyrian, xan sa-
idan gamogvyrian. biZina ivaniS-
vilis gamoCenam imedi gamiCina
Cems miwa-wyalze dabrunebis.
amitom gadavwyvite `qarTul
ocnebaSi~ gawevrianeba. imedia,
batoni biZina qarTvelebs ocne-
bebs agvixdens, maT Soris mec
da Cems miwaze davimarxebi.
badri makaraSvili,`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ sa-
akaSvilis mosvlis periodSi
darwmunebulebi viyaviT yvela-
feri kargad iqneboda, Tumca
molodini maleve gagvicruvda.
daages gzebi, gaakeTes Sadrev-
nebi, warmatebiT gaatares po-
liciis reforma, magram uSua-
lod sazogadoebas araferi
Segvetyo, kvlav gaWirvebulebi
varT. amitom mixeil saakaS-
vils odnav Tu goniereba Se-
morCenia unda wavides, winaaRm-
deg SemTxvevaSi, rogorc Se-
vardnaZes xalxi Tavad miabrZa-
nebs.
mzia oRrapiSvili, `qa-rTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ qveya-
naSi sadac ar arsebobs samar-
Tali, samuSao adgilebi, moS-
lilia samedicino momsaxureba,
ganaTleba, xalxi SimSiliT
ixoceba da aseT dros roca vi-
Raca daxmarebis xels gamogiw-
vdis, miTumetes qarTveli SeiZ-
leba ar daeTanxmo. erTxel da
samudamod xom unda dasrul-
des saakaSvilis diqtatoruli
mmarTvelob. vfiqrob, batoni
biZina dagvexmareba da agvisru-
lebs `qarTul ocnebas~, rac
CemTvis piradad pirvel rigSi
samarTlianobasTan asocirdeba.
naTia ZirkveliSvili`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ da-
axloebiT erTi wlis ukan dav-
tove `leiboristebi~, radgan
aRarafris imedi aRar mqonda.
xalxi xom unda mixvdes bolos
da bolos ufskrulisken mivdi-
varT, fasadur saxelmwifoSi
vcxovrobT. imedi gvaqvs bato-
ni biZinasi, igi imdenad warma-
tebuli adamiania, vfiqrob, ga-
uTvaliswinebel nabijs ar ga-
dadgams. xelisuflebis nabi-
jebs rac Seexeba aris sruli-
ad uzneo da Sokur situacia-
Si Cavardnili adamianis qcevaa
sabednierod, sikeTe yovelTvis
amarcxebs borotebas da qarT-
veli xalxi aucileblad gai-
marjvebs.
ramaz berianiZe, `qar-
Tuli ocnebis~ wevri _ wlebis
ganmavlobaSi `leiboristuli
partiis~ aqtivisti viyavi da
`vardebis revoluciis~ dros
davtove im imediT, qveyanaSi
situacia Seicvleboda, Tumca
amaod. biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-
Cenam politikuri procesebi
Ria, gamWvirvale gaxada da yve-
lafers saTaviso saxeli daar-
qva. sasurveli iqneba, batoni
biZina, Tu sazogadoebas daeyr-
dnoba da ara romelime poli-
tikur Zalas. dameTanxmebiT,
arcerTi politikuri Zala se-
riozuli avtoritetiT ar
sargeblobs. kaci, romelic qa-
rTul tradiciul ojaxSi aRi-
zarda da ekonomikur, socia-
lur sakiTxebis gadawyvetisas
tyuili ar uTqvams, vfiqrob,
saqarTvelos gaiyvans im orbi-
taze sadac yvela adamiani bed-
nieri iqneba.
rusudan SurRaia,`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _
dRemde saqarTvelos momavals
arsebuli xelisuflebis piro-
bebSi pesimisturad vuyurebdi
da es mxolod Cemi mosazreba
araa. bevri adamiani fiqrobs
igives. Tumca biZina ivaniSvi-
lis gamoCenam sazogadoebaSi
rwmena gaaCina _ qveynis gadar-
Cenis.
qveyanaSi ar arsebobs samar-
Tlianoba, kanoniereba, ramdeni
xani SeiZleba vicxovroT ase.
rasakvirvelia, qarTuli ocne-
bis realobad gadaqceva SesaZ-
lebelia, magram mxolod iva-
niSvili verafers gaakeTebs Tu
sazogadoeba SiSis sindromidan
ver gamova.
_ ivaniSvili arCevnebis gz-
iT apirebs xelisuflebaSi
mosvlas. Tqveni azriT, ra San-
sebi aqvs?
_ nacmoZraoba xvdeba, rom
ganwirulebi arian, amitom cdi-
loben saarCevno kodeqsSi maT-
Tvis saTaviso kanonebi Cadon.
axla ukve saxelisuflebo ar-
xebi dRedaRam imas qadageben,
TiTqos `Tavisufali demokra-
tebi~ da `respublikelebi~ na-
tosa da evrokavSirSi Sesvlas
ewinaaRmdegebian, amis Semdeg
raze SeiZleba isaubro. faqtia,
ivaniSvilis gamoCenam xelisuf-
leba SokSi Caagdo.
inga xoStaria, `qarTu-
li ocnebis~ wevri: gaRatakebu-
li, gaubedurebuli. saqarTve-
losTvis biZina ivaniSvili bo-
lo imedia. Cven ivaniSvilis ga-
dawyvetilebas, Cixidan gamoiy-
vanos qveyana, pativs vcemT da
mxardamWeras vucxadebT. biZi-
nas aqamde qarTveli xalxisT-
vis arasdros uRalatia da
darwmunebuli var, igive gzas
gaagrZelebs. bolos da bolos
xalxi unda mixvdes, saakaSvi-
lis xelisuflebis pirobebSi
kargi araferi gvelodeba.
sazogadoebrivi moZraobis
wevri ukve gaxda nato mur-vaniZe. msaxiobma miRebulli
gadawyvettillebis dettallebsa da
gegmebze `saerTo gazeTTan~
isaubra.
_ qalbatono nato, rogor
SeafasebT qveyanaSi Seqmnil
mdgomareobas esaa progresis-
ken Tu regresisken mimavali
procesi?
_ gulwrfelad getyviT,
mimdinare wlebma didi uimedoba
gamoiCina. biZina ivaniSvilis po-
litikaSi gamoCeniT situacia
sruliad Seicvala. igi wle-
bis ganmavlobaSi uangarod
exmareboda saqarTvelos da
qarTvelobas. es ar iyo wina-
saarCevnod politikaSi wasas-
vlelad gamiznuli adamianis
nabiji. biZina maqsimalurad
cdilobda misi qvelmoqmedeba
afiSirebuli ar yofiliyo da
swored esaa procesi _ akeTo
saqme uangarod.
dRevandeli gadawyveti-
lebac biZina ivaniSvilis
mxridan aseTive qvelmoqmedebaa.
man uari Tqva bevr rameze
imisTvis, rom adamianebi,
vinc uaimedod viyaviT, ime-
di gagvCenoda. politikuri
opoziciis warmomadgenlebi,
vinc ivaniSvilma partnio-
rebad daasaxela, is parti-
ebia, visac arCevnebze xmas
yovelTvis vaZlevdi. bednie-
ri viyavi, roca es gadawy-
vetileba movismine, vfiq-
rob, ivaniSvilis mxridan
swori gadawyetileba iyo.
_ ram mogcaT biZgi
`qarTul ocnebaSi~ gasa-
wevrianeblad?
_ marTalia, uaxlesi
istoriis tragikuli epi-
zodebi piradad me da Cems
ojaxs ar Segvxebia, magram es
ar niSnavs, rac saqarTveloSi
xdeba, CemTvis sulerTia.
frTxilad vudgebi yvelafers,
miTumetes gancxadebebis gake-
Tebas. amitom ar vityvi, TiT-
qos `qarTuli ocneba~ Cemi yve-
laze didi da ukanaskneli ime-
dia. mTavaria, janmrTeli pro-
cesi daiwyo da es ukve kargia,
magram ukan dasaxev gzas ar
viWri, radgan bevri imedgacru-
eba minaxavs. bevrjer yofila
mowodebebi, gaerTianebebi, Tum-
ca bolomde miyvanili saqme
arasodes. piesas roca vkiTxu-
lob, vici sadaa misi dasawyisi
da dasasruli. warmogidgeniaT,
muSaoba daviwyo iseT piesaze,
romelsac daboloeba ar aqvs?
am SemTxvevaSi, ar mecodineba,
rogor ganvaviTaro Cemi perso-
naJi. igive situaciaa nebismie-
ri saqmis dawyebisas. adamiani
roca raRacas iwyebs, dasaxu-
li unda hqondes mizani `a~
punqtidan `b~, winaaRmdeg Sem-
TxvevaSi, warmatebas ver miaR-
wevs. piradad `qarTul ocneba-
Si~ es mizani davinaxe, amitom
maqvs didi molodini.
_ rom ara ivaniSvilis fi-
nansuri resursi, eqneboda ase-
Ti mxardaWera?
_ arian adamianebi, romle-
bic mTeli cxovreba qvelmoqme-
deben. Tumca amgvari mxardaWe-
riT ar sargebloben. vfiqrob,
am SemTxvevaSi saqme ufro pi-
rovnul TvisebebTan gvaqvs.
erT magaliTs movitan: 5 wlis
ukan poloneTSi viyavi samuSa-
od miwveuli da iq batoni bi-
Zinas istoria movyevi. saqarT-
veloSi arsebobs adamiani, ro-
melic TvaliT aravis gvina-
xavs, magram gagviremonta Te-
atrebi, Segviqmna komfortuli
garemo da amasTan, damatebiT
xelfassac gvixdis _ meTqi.
yvela gaognebuli darCa. es
marTlac warmoudgenelia da
arsad ar xdeba. marTalia,
sxvadasxva organizaciebs bil
geitsi da sxva qvelmoqmedebic
exmarebian, magram im qveynebSi
keTili saqme ar ibegreba. sa-
qarTveloSi ki yvelanairi qve-
moqmedeba solidurad ibegreba.
yvelaze metad rac ivaniS-
vilis gamosvlaSi damamaxsovr-
da: unda `yvelaze didi niWi
isaa, icxovro ise, rom mezobe-
li ar Seawuxo~. maqsimalurad
unda vecadoT vicxovroT am
principis gaTvaliswinebiT da
vfiqrob, yvelaferi kargad iq-
neba.
miranda nabaxteveli
mxolod biZina ivaniSvili verafers gaxdeba,
sindromisgan ar ganTavisuflda
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bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillmmaa xxeellii-
ssuufflleebbiiss ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa mmoo-
qqaallaaqqeeoobbiiss CCaammoorrTTmmeevvaassTTaann
ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT kkaannoonniieerreebbiiss
CCaarrCCooSSii mmooaaqqcciiaa ddaa ssaammaarrTT-
lleebbrriivvii mmeeTTooddeebbiiTT ccddiilloobbss
mmooqqaallaaqqeeoobbiiss ddaabbrruunneebbaass..
ggvveessaauubbrreebbaa bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSS-
vviilliiss aaddvvookkaattii zaqariaqucnaSvili::
_ am droisTvis mxareebi
SekiTxvebis dasmis etapze
varT. mogexsenebaT, 5 dekem-
bers sasamarTloSi warvadgi-
neT dazustebuli sarCeli,
riTac Cveni moTxovnebi sa-
marTlebrivi sakiTxebis 6
blokze avageT.
__ kkoonnkkrreettuullaadd rraass eeffuuZZ-
nneebbaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbrriivvii ssaakkiiTTxxee-
bbiiss 66 bbllookkii??
_ saboloo jamSi, isini
adastureben mixeil saakaSvi-
lis 2011 wlis 11 oqtombris
ukanono brZanebulebas.
prezidents uflebamosi-
leba ar hqonda gamoeca am
Sinaarsis aqti, radgan gamo-
naklisi wesiT moqalaqeobami-
niWebul pirze ar vrceldeba
saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis
Sesaxeb organuli kanonis 32
muxli, amitom mixeil saakaS-
vili gascda uflebamosile-
bis farglebs da gamosca uka-
nono samarTlebrivi dadgeni-
leba. amave dros xelisufle-
ba moqmedebda aramarTlzomie-
ri gziT. anu nebismier qmede-
bas iqneba es administraciu-
li Tu sisxlis samarTlebri-
vi, legitimuri mizani unda
hqondes. magaliTad, damnaSa-
ves roca vakavebT, viWerT
imisTvis, rom davicvaT sazo-
gadoebis usafrTxoeba da ara
imisTvis, rom misi dakaveba
gvsiamovnebs. anu nebismier
sajaro moqmedebas mizani un-
da hqondes. Sesabamisad, Cnde-
ba kiTxva, ra mizani hqonda
xelisuflebas biZina ivaniS-
vilis moqalaqeobis CamorT-
mevisas? pasuxi martivia _
politikuri.
mixeil saakaSvils ori
politikuri Tanamdeboba uka-
via: aris prezidenti da meo-
re `nacmoZraobis~ Tavmjdoma-
re. igi saxelmwifo Tanamde-
bobas iyenebs sakuTari parti-
is sasargeblod. icilebs
konkurents biZina ivaniSvi-
lis saxiT, amitom mizani
aralegitimuria. mixeil saa-
kaSvili moqmedebs ara saja-
ro interesebidan gamomdina-
re, aramed piradi, partiuli
interesebiT, rac seriozuli
darRvevaa.
biZina ivaniSvilisTvis mo-
qalaqeobis CamorTmeva dae-
fuZna postulats, TiTqos
gamonaklisi wesiT, saqarTve-
los moqalaqeobamiRebul
pirs aRar SeuZlia sxva qvey-
nis moqalaqeobis miReba. am
dros ki evropis konvencia
gveubneba: e.w. multimoqala-
qeoba mdgomareobs imaSi, rom
piri ukve aris sxva qveynis
moqalaqe da damatebiT damsa-
xurebis: aniWeb saqarTvelos
moqalaqeobas. ese igi apriori
uSveb imas, rom moqalaqeobis
miniWebamde ivaniSvili ukve
sxva qveynis moqalaqea, ami-
tom gaugebaria, ratom SeiZ-
leba, miniWebamde arsebuli
garemoeba moqalaqeo-
bis miniWebis Semdeg
arsebuli viTarebis
winaaRmdegobrivi ga-
xdes.
vTqvaT, preziden-
ti gadawyvetilebis
miRebisas kompetent-
uri iyo, xelisufle-
bis mizani konkret-
ul SemTxvevaSi, ka-
nonieri. sul rom ar-
aferi, moqalaqeobis
CamorTmevasTan dakav-
Sirebuli elementa-
ruli procedurebi
xom mainc unda daec-
vaT. magaliTad, ro-
goricaa sasamarTlo-
Si dainteresebuli piris ga-
mocxadeba, mtkicebulebis ga-
mokvleva da a.S.
__ ssaassaammaarrTTlloo pprroocceesszzee
aaddvvookkaatteebbmmaa oorrjjeerr ddaaaayyeenneeTT
mmoossaammaarrTTlliiss aacciilleebbiiss ssaa-
kkiiTTxxii,, rraa iiyyoo mmiizzeezzii??
_ rodesac mosamarTlis
aridebis sakiTxi davayeneT,
vmoqmedebdiT absoluturad
kanonierad. Tavis mxriv, mar-
Tlmsajulebis ganmxorciele-
beli piri valdebulia gana-
xorcielos kanonierebis mi-
zani, rac gulisxmobs misi
mxridan obieqturobasa da mi-
ukerZoeblobas.
advokatebs saqmis warmoe-
bis dros gagviCnda seriozu-
li eWvi mosamarTlis damou-
kideblobasTan dakavSirebiT.
Cven rodesac sasamarTlosgan
mtkicebulebebis gamoTxova
moviTxoveT, mosamarTlem Ta-
vis ganCinebaSi aseTi ram da-
wera: am procesTan dakavSire-
biT, me ukve Camomiyalibda
rwmena. samarTlebrivad, Sina-
gani rwmena aris Sexeduleba,
romelic mosamarTles proce-
sis dasrulebis Semdeg uya-
libdeba da Sinagani rwmena
da kanoni erToblivad gavle-
nas axdens saboloo gadawyve-
tilebaze. am qmedebiT mosa-
marTlem sakuTari Tavi gasca
da Tavisi subieqturoba daa-
dastura.
mosamarTlis acilebis sa-
kiTxi meoredac davayeneT da
Tqvenma mkiTxvelma gvinda
icodes mizezi. biZina ivaniS-
vilis procesisadmi sazoga-
doebis didi interesidan ga-
momdinare, moviTxoveT audio-
videoCanaweris ganxorciele-
ba, razec uari miviReT im mi-
zeziT, rom amas sasamarTlo
Tavadve uzrunvelyofda. Tum-
ca Semdgom davafiqsire mik-
rofonze wiTeli Suqis saSu-
alebiT, rom mosamarTle mxo-
lod Cven saubars iwerda da
sakuTar ganCinebas ara. pro-
cesze principulad moviTxo-
veT momxdarze pasuxi, Tumca
mosamarTlem sakmaod ucnau-
rad gvipasuxa, rom mas inst-
ruqcia aZlevs amis ufleba-
mosilebas. arc instruqciis
momcemi organo an piri, ri-
Tac ganCinebaSi xelmZRvane-
lobda, ar dausaxelebia. aman
kidev erTxel dagvarwmuna
mis subieqtur damokidebule-
baSi saqmis mimarT.
__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraattoomm aarr
ddaakkmmaayyooffiillddaa TTqqvveennii mmooTTxxoovv-
nnaa mmoossaammaarrTTlliiss aacciilleebbaassTTaann
ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT??
_ biZina ivaniSvilis saqme
xelisuflebisgan politiku-
rad motivirebuli procesia.
mosamarTle SoTa gewaZe 9
Tvis ganmocdilebis mqone
iuristia. ratomRac mas Caa-
bares aseTi mniSvnelovani sa-
qme. rogorc Cans, cdian, kar-
gad imuSavebs _ datoveben,
ver imuSavebs da Tanamdebobi-
dan gaanTavisufleben.
__ rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, aaRRss-
rruullddeebbaa kkaannoonniieerreebbaa??
_ yvela argumenti gvaqvs
imisTvis, rom Tundac 30-40
procenti standartebis sasa-
marTlom obieqturi gadawyve-
tileba gamoitanos. Tumca
nulovani sasamarTlos piro-
bebSi, sadac Savze TeTrs am-
boben, molodini didi araa.
Cvens mxarezea simarTle, uam-
ravi argumenti da vfiqrobT,
simarTle gaimarjvebs.
miranda nabaxteveli
`biZina ivaniSvilis saqme politikurad motivirebulia procesi 9 Tvis
gamocdilebis mqone mosamarTles Caabares~
qarTveli leiboristebis
liderisagan winaTac araerTg-
zis gvsmenia mavanTa zRvargada-
suli kritika... magram misma na-
ubarma 9 dekembris avbediT Ra-
mes studia `maestroSi~ Jurna-
list Tea siWinavasTan yovelg-
var zRvars gadaaWarba.
batonma Salvam jer vaSing-
tonSi mis mier Cadenili `sagmi-
ro saqmeebis~ Sesaxeb gviambo:
pirdapir TeTr saxlTan, lamis
prezident obamas kabinetis sar-
kmelTan vlanZReT saqarTvelos
prezidentio. mere biZina ivaniS-
vils gadaswvda:
_ eg ra qvelmoqmedia, erTi
gadamamuSavebeli sawarmoc ki ar
gauxsniao. Tanac saqarTvelos
istoriaSi upirvelesi mecena-
tis mier gaweuli qvelmoqmede-
ba uaRresad arakoreqtulad mo-
ixsenia. qvelmoqmedi ki ara
gvelmoqmoqmediao!
ivaniSvilis srul naqvelmo-
qmedars cxadia, ver CamovTvliT.
maT Sesaxeb yvelas, maT Soris
baton Salvasac mSvenivrad mo-
exseneba. amitom mxolod erT ma-
galiTs SevaxsenebT:
SeuZlebelia mas wakiTxuli
ar hqondes batoni patiaSvilis
saintereso interviu, romelic
amaswinaT qarTul presaSi ga-
moqveynda.
maSin (am ociode wlis
ukan), rodesac saqarTveloSi
yvelafers Wridnen da ucxoeTSi
jarTad gahqondaT, biZina ivaniS-
vilma saqarTveloSi sakuTari
saxsrebiT SeZenili 450
traqtori Semoiyvanao,
_ brZanebs batoni jum-
beri.
ai, kidev erTi maga-
liTi: cnobil qarTvel
moRvawes baCana bregva-
Zes swored batoni biZi-
nas dafinansebiT Cau-
tarda mkurnalobis sr-
uli kursi. amis Semdeg
igi kvlav (sabednierod)
intensiurad agrZelebs
saqmianobas da qarTul
mwerlobasa da kultu-
ras araerTi didebuli
naSromi SesZina.
_ vekiTxebiT leibo-
ristTa liders:
_ batoni biZinas am keTili
saqmeebis Soreuli mizani, 450
traqtoris memanqanisa da bato-
ni baCanas daverbovkeba da arCev-
nebSi maTi gamoyeneba iyo?!
magram yovelive amiT rodi
amoiwura!
batonma Salvam imave studi-
aSi biZina ivaniSvilis mier fu-
lis Sovnis `saidumloebasac
axada farda~. da rodesac es ge-
neral lebedTan urTierTobasa
indoeTSi iaraRis ukanono vaW-
robas daukavSira, Cemda unebli-
ed, ukvdavi `daTa TuTaSxiadan~
erTi fraza gamaxsenda!
_ ra hqeni guduna es!... ra
hqeni guduna es!...
_ batono guduna... mapatieT,
batono Salva!
_ Tqveni versia biZina iva-
niSvilis mier fulis Sovnis
Sesaxeb, isevea axlos simarT-
lesTan, rogorc Cems mier sa-
xeldaxelod SeTxzuli erTi
gaxmaurebuli mkvlelobis ver-
sia, romelzedac axlave mogax-
senebT: `jer kidev 1960 wels,
leiboristuli partiis saidum-
lo serobaze Salva naTelaS-
vilma da iuri andropovma kene-
dis mkvleloba, xolo misi mSve-
nieri qvrivis Jakli-
nis onasisze gaTxove-
ba dagegmes~.
ase rom, maestros
gadacema mis uamrav
mayurebels erTi Cveu-
lebrivi saRamo gagvi-
fuWa, magram mTavari
es rodia. samwuxaro
is aris, rom gadace-
mis `gmirma~ _ Salva
naTelaSvilma, mgoni,
Zalze mZime rames _
politikur suicids
gamohkra xeli.
oTar kusianisaCxere
politikuri suicidi
11saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
dRevandel xelisuufflebas tyuuilad
arr uuwodeben neobolSevikebs. rrogorrc
Cans, saakaSvilis rreJJimma komuunistebis
drroindeli bavSvTa koloniebis aRdgena
gadawyvita da Sesabamisi kanonprroeqqtic
`gamoacxves~. am TemasTan dakavSirrebiT
`saerrTo gazeTs~ uufflebadamcveli gi-orgi TevzaZe esauubrra.
giorgi TevzaZe: `xelisufleba
`zogadi ganaTlebis Sesaxeb~ saqarTve-
los kanonSi cvlilebebis Setanas api-
rebs. es kanonproeqti parlamentarma
jondi baRaTuriam warmogvidgina arasam-
Tavrobo seqtoris warmomadgenlebs da
parlamentarebTan erTad moxda misi gan-
xilva. es kanonproeqti saxelwodebiT
`saqarTvelos zogierT sakanonmdeblo
aqtSi cvlilebis Setanis Taobaze~ ara-
Tu dagvabrunebs Cvens komunistur war-
sulSi, aramed bavSvebisadmi midgomas
kidev ufro gaauaresebs da daamaxinjebs.
realurad es aris arasrulwlovnebis
specialur skola-pansionSi gadamisamar-
Tebis (gagzavnis) proeqti. xsenebuli
dawesebuleba aris raRac axali tipis
skola-internati, adre ZneladaRsazr-
delTa dawesebuleba rom iyo. sasje-
laRsrulebis dawesebulebis magvaria,
anu faqtobrivad es aris patimrobis
forma.
am kanonproeqtis Sesabamisi muxlis
Tanaxmad gadamisamarTeba, anu arasrul-
wlovanis skola-pansionSi gagzavna
xorcieldeba devianturi qcevis aras-
rulwlovnis mimarT, romelsac 10 we-
li Seusrulda da mimarTvidan 6 Tvis
manZilze ar Seusruldeba 18 weli. de-
vianturi qceva gamoixateba rTul an/da
antisazogadoebriv qcevaSi, romelic
aSkara safrTxes uqmnis arasrulwlov-
nis ganviTarebas, mis an sxva adamianebis
usafrTxoebas, keTildReobas an marTl-
wesrigs da vlindeba aranakleb 6 Tvis
manZilze.
am e.w. gadamisamarTebis gadawyveti-
lebas iRebs ganaTlebis saministrosTan
arsebuli multidisciplinuri jgufi
masSi Semavali qvejgufebis meSveobiT.
es qvejgufebi skolebSi ifunqcionirebs
da faqtobrivad, mandaturi da pedagogi
miiReben gadagzavnis gadawyvetilebas,
rac realurad arasrulwlovnis mimarT
ganxorcielebuli administraciuli we-
siT dasjaa.
10-dan 18 wlamde es is periodia,
rodesac bavSvi Camoyalibebis procesSia
da xSirad gauazreblad moqmedebs. 14
da miTumetes 10 wlis bavSvs rogor
unda mohkiTxo sakuTar qmedebebze kon-
troli. an ra ician maT ras niSnavs an-
tisazogadoebrivi qmedeba. komunistebis
drosac ki 14 wlis Semdeg dgeboda ss-
is pasuxismgeblobis piroba, Tumca
`vardosnebma~ es asaki 12 wlamde dawi-
es. saerTaSoriso organizaciebisa da
qarTveli uflebdamcvelebis daJinebu-
li moTxovniT, isev 14 wlamde gaizar-
da, magram axla es kanonproeqti Semo-
aqvT, romelic winaaRmdegobaSia aramar-
to saerTaSoriso konvenciebTan, aramed
qarTul ss-is saproceso kanonmdeblo-
basTanac~.
_ komunistur warsulSi dabruneba-
Si ras gulisxmobT?
_ aseTi dawesebuleba, _ ZneladaR-
sazrdelTa skola-internati komuniste-
bis dros cxinvalSi arsebobda, magram
igi faqtobrivad, ufunqcio iyo. Tanac
iq bavSvi 10 ki ara 14 wlis Sesrule-
bis Semdeg SeiZleboda gadaegzavnaT, Ta-
nac mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu is mZi-
me kategoriis danaSauls Caidenda. bol-
Sevikebis dros ki hqondaT ZneladaR-
sazrdelTa dawesebuleba, sadac mcirew-
lovnebic xvdebodnen, magram es krimina-
lis Cadenisken midrekili upatrono
bavSvTa TavSesafari iyo. axla ki im bav-
Svebzea saubari, romlebsac ojaxi hyavT
da Tu mandaturs an pedagogs ar moewo-
na romelime bavSvi, danaSaulis Cadena-
ze aRarc aris saubari, SeuZlia am sko-
la-pansionSi ukras Tavi.
skolebSi direqciis mier sakuTari
neba-surviliT sadamsjelo RonisZiebis
gatarebis samwuxaro praqtika ukve
gvaqvs, Tundac 53-e skolis magaliTze.
am skolis direqtorma ukanonod dasaja
arasrulwlovani, skolidan garicxa da
am bavSvs sxva skolebic aRar Rebulo-
ben. Cemi informaciiT, im bavSvebis oja-
xebs, romlebmac gaaprotestes direq-
toris es yovlad miuRebeli saqcieli,
policia sistematurad akiTxavda. bavS-
vis aRzrdisadmi aseTi midgoma yovlad
dauSvebelia. momaval kriminalebs
vzrdiT Tu raSia saqme, aseTi saqcie-
liT maT xom gzidan acdenisken vubiZ-
gebT? bavSvs humanuroba da patieba un-
da vaswavloT, sakanSi ki ar unda gamo-
vamwyvdioT. Turme es arasrulwlovne-
bis gamosworebis mizniT keTdeba. es
aris sruli absurdi. Zalian meeWveba iq
vinme gamoswordes, miTumetes xsenebul
skola-pansionSi gamijnuli ar iqneba
mZime da naklebad mZime danaSaulis Ca-
denaSi SemCneuli arasrulwlovnebi iq
SecdomiT moxvedrili bavSvebisgan. Tan
Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT rogori da-
mokidebuleba aqvs amgvari dawesebule-
bebis administracias iq moTavsebulTa
mimarT, ar aris gamoricxuli sruliad
wesieri adamianic ki, miTumetes aras-
rulwlovani kriminalad Camoyalibdes.
ar SemiZlia am mandaturis insti-
tuts ar Sevexo. es aris policielebis
pirdapiri Casma aRmzrdelobiT dawese-
bulebebSi, anu faqtobrivad skolas,
policia akontrolebs. mandaturebis
Seyvanis aucileblobas imiT xsnian, rom
skolebSi Semcirda daWrisa da sxva da-
naSaulis Cadenis SesaZlebloba, magram
es sxva formiTac SeiZleboda gakeTebu-
liyo. ra Tqma unda, mandaturma SiSis
faqtori marTlac gamoiwvia, magram ra
daaSava im bavSvma, romelic kriminalu-
ri qmedebisken midrekili ar aris? ise
Tu aseTi kargi da mniSvnelovania man-
daturis instituti, maSin ratom ar
moqmedebs im amerikul skolebSi, sadac
gavleniani da cnobili xalxis Svilebi
swavloben? ramdenadac vici im ameri-
kul skolaSi, sadac prezident saakaS-
vilis vaJi swavlobs, mandaturebi ar
arian. Tu Tanasworobazea saubari, maSin
arc sajaro skolebSi unda iyvnen, Tu
arada im skolebSic Seiyvanon. darwmu-
nebuli var es drakonuli kanonproeqti,
romlis miRebasac apireben, am presti-
Juli skolebis moswavleebze ar gavr-
celdeba.
- gadamisamarTebis gadawyvetilebis
aRsruleba rogor moxdeba?
- Tu arasrulwlovani winaaRmdego-
bas gauwevs am gadawyvetilebas, socia-
luri muSaki uflebamosilia policias
mimarTos, anu bavSvi iZulebiT gadaiyva-
non. misma mSoblebma Tu uari Tqves ga-
dayvanaze, pirvel SemTxvevaSi, 500 la-
riT dajarimdebian. am winaaRmdegobis
ganmeorebis SemTxvevaSi 1000-1000 la-
riT. multidisciplinaruli qvejgufis
wevri administraciul samarTaldarRve-
vaTa oqms Seadgens da Sesabamisi kodeq-
sis mixedviT moxdeba dajarimeba. Tu es
Tanxa ojaxma droze ar gadaixada, cxa-
dia, sauravi daericxeba da SeiZleba
saxl-karic ki gaayidinon. arada am masi-
uri siduxWiris pirobebSi vin SeZlebs
mis gadaxdas. yvelaze kuriozuli ki is
aris, rom ojaxs gasaCivrebis ufleba
aqvs, magram am saCivar isev es multi-
disdisciplinuri jgufi ixilavs da ra
gadawyvetilebasac gamoitans, winaswar-
ve cnobilia.
mokled, es kanonproeqti yovlad mi-
uRebelia, radgan uxeSad arRvevs, ro-
gorc bavSvis saerTaSoriso konvencie-
biT gaTvaliswinebul uflebebs, ise sa-
qarTvelos konstituciasac. konstitu-
ciiTaa daculi ojaxis erTianoba, am
dros ki eseni bavSvs ojaxs wyveten.
aseTi skola-pansionati samtrediaSi
ukve yofila. male albaT sxva regioneb-
Sic gaxsnian. Tu es xelisufleba ase
zrunavs bavSvebis swor aRzrdaze, uam-
ravi miusafari bavSvia, romlebic Ria
cis qveS cxovroben da jer maT sacxov-
rebliT uzrunvelyofasa da swavla-ga-
naTlebaze ifiqron. es xom maTi uSua-
lo movaleobaa?
manana suxiSvili
Tu pedagogs an mandaturs, ubralod, `ar moewona~ bavSvi, SeiZleba,
mas ZneladaRsazrdelTa skola-pansionSi ukran Tavi ise, rom
mSobelma araferi icodes...
`maestros~ TTanamSromlebma prezidentis ssasaxlesTan
saprotesto aaqcia ggamarTessaqarTvelos prezidentis sasaxlesTan
telekompania „maestros“ TanamSromlebma da
damfuZneblebma saprotesto aqcia gamarTes
da mixeil saakaSvils kanonis aRsrulebis
uzrunvelyofisaken mouwodes. aqciis mona-
wileebi rusTavis mediis marTvis kompaniis
xelmZRvanelis erosi kiwmariSvilis da mi-
si dacvis wevrebis telekompania „maestros“
Senobidan gamosaxlebas moiTxoven.
„maestros“ damfuZnebel mamuka Rlontis
gancxadebiT, erosi kiwmariSvilis saxiT te-
lekompanias mixeil saakaSvili ebrZvis, misi
sasaxlis win aqciis Catareba mxolod ami-
tom gadawyda.
Rlontis gancxadebiT, msgavsi aqciebi
kiwmariSvilis telekompaniis Senobidan gan-
saxlebamde gagrZeldeba.
prezidentis administraciis win myofma
„maestros“ TanamSromlebma lenti Semoixvi-
es da maTi TqmiT, telekompaniis amJaminde-
li mdgomareoba simbolurad aseTi formiT
gamoxates.
saprotesto aqciaSi „maestros“ damfuZ-
neblebis garda politikosebi da arasamTav-
robo organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi imyo-
febodnen.
aqcias SeuerTdnen sxva mediasaSualebis
warmomadgenlebic.
mixeil ssaakaSvili ppresis jixurebis aaRebasTan ddakavSirebiT
komentars aar aakeTebssaqarTvelos prezidenti mixeil saakaS-
vili TbilisSi presis gamavrcelebeli ji-
xurebis aRebasTan dakavSirebiT mediasaSua-
lebebis mier gamoTqmul protestze Tavisi
poziciis gaxmaurebisagan Tavs ikavebs.
rogorc dRes prezidentis sasaxleSi
gamarTul tradiciul brifingze mixeil sa-
akaSvilis pres-sspikerma manana manjgalaZem
ganacxada, aRniSnul sakiTxze komentaris
gakeTeba ara prezidentis administraciis,
aramed adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis or-
ganos prerogativaa.
manjgalaZis TqmiT, Jurnalistebma am sa-
kiTxze kiTxviT swored aRniSnul uwyebas
unda mimarTon.
biZina iivaniSvili jjon bbass SSexvda
biZina ivaniSvili saqarTveloSi aSS-iis
elCs jon bass Sexvda.
rogorc ,,medianiuss” biZina ivaniSvilis
pressamdivnos xelmZRvanelma nona yandiaS-
vilma ganucxada, Sexvedra dRes amerikis sa-
elCoSi Sedga da is daxuruli iyo.
,,saubari Seexo mimdinare problemebs,
maT Soris biZina ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobis
sakiTxs da bevr sxva sakiTxsac, romelic
dRis wesrigSi dgas da problemulia. aseTi
sakiTxi ki sakmaod bevria” _ aRniSna yandi-
aSvilma.
`medianiusi~
12 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
`̀saerTo gazeTi~ amjerad
erisaTvis yvelaze mtkivneul
Temaze saxelmwifo enis _ qqar-
Tuli enis savalalo mdgomare-
obaze iwyebs diskusia. enis sa-
kiTxi mxolod enis sakiTxs uk-
ve raxania gascda da qqveynis
yofna-aaryofnis sakiTxSi gadai-
zarda. vin varT, ra perspeqqtiva
gvelis da ra safrTxeebis mata-
rebelia xelisuflebis e.w. qqvey-
nis Senebis politika am Temebze
`̀konsiliumSi~ cnobili poeti
da publicisti, `̀saerTo gaze-
Tis~ mTavari redaqqtori vax-tang xarCilava gvesaubreba::
_ yvelas kargad gvaxsovs
cnobili formula: `qarTlad
friadi qveyanai aRiracxebis, sa-
dac qarTul enaze locva aRev-
linebis da Jami Seiwirvis...~,
anu saqarTvelod is teritoria
SeiZleba vigulisxmoT, sadac
vrceldeba qarTuli ena. am fra-
zis mTqmelma saxelmwifos
sazRvrebi, saxelmwifoebrioba
iqamde SemosazRvra, sadamdec
swored es ena vrceldeba. ena
saxelmwifos sazRvrebis momniS-
vneli, momsazRvrelia. xolo sa-
dac qarTuli enis statusi ar
vrceldeba _ is sxva saxelmwi-
foa. dRevandel saqarTvelos am
kuTxiT Tu SevxedavT, gamodis,
rom dRes Cven saxelmwifo ar
gvaqvs. es ar vrceldeba is te-
ritoriuli mTlianoba, rasac
dRes saqarTvelos veZaxiT, rad-
gan sinamdvileSi Tbilisidan
ramdenime kilometris daSore-
biT qarTuli ena saxelmwifo
ena ar aris, locvaze rom aRa-
raferi vTqvaT, iq qarTuli enis
arsebobis saWiroebac ki ar
aris. aviRoT, Tundac e.w. samx-
reT-oseTis teritoria, sadac
saqarTvelos saxelmwifo ena _
qarTuli rogorc saxelmwifo
ena maSinac ar vrceldeboda.
aRarafers vambob afxazeTze, sa-
dac qarTuli ena vrceldeboda
rogorc meore ena, magram prio-
riteti ar eniWeboda. rac See-
xeba, samcxe-javaxeTs, aq saer-
Tod ignorirebulia qarTuli
ena. es sakmaod TvalsaCino maga-
liTebia. magram, modiT im teri-
toriebs mimovavloT Tvali, sa-
dac qarTuli ena prioritetu-
lia. davsvaT kiTxva _ sad, ro-
mel teritoriebzea qarTuli
ena prioritetuli maSin, roca
saxelmwifo gveubneba _ mTava-
ria inglisuri enis swavlao,
nebismier vakansiaSi aucilebel
pirobad inglisuris da ara qar-
Tuli enis codnaa miTiTebuli
da a.S.
Cvens Tvalwin, ucebsaxelmwifo qarTuli
ena saqarTveloSive me-orexarisxovan enad iq-ca. rac Seexeba, xeli-suflebis damokidebu-lebas qarTuli, ro-gorc saxelmwifo eni-sadmi, Cemda gasakvi-rad absoluturad ag-resiuli da mtrulia.
am faqtis imiT gamarTleba,
rom globalizmis epoqaSi vcxo-
vrobT da amitom inglisur enas
saqarTvelos yvela moqalaqe un-
da flobdes, rac maT TiTqos
xels Seuwyobs saerTaSoriso
asparezze moRvaweobaSi da a.S.
gaugebaria. saakaSvilis dabade-
bamdec arsebobda gamoTqma-ram-
deni enac ici, imdeni kaci xaro.
magram am frazaSi namdvilad
aravis ugulisxmia sakuTari
enis ignorirebis xarjze daeuf-
leT sxva enebso.
rodesac sakuTarsaxelmwifo enas fexq-veS Telav da mas ukanaplanze swev, am drossxva danarCeni enebiscodna yovelgvar azrshkargavs.
rodesac sakuTari ena Sesis-
xlxorcebuli ar gaqvs, magram
am dros Zalian kargad ici,
vTqvaT Cinuri, inglisuri da
sxva, sinamdvileSi saqarTvelos
srulfasovan moqalaqed ar iTv-
lebi. xelisufleba yvelafers
akeTebs swored imisTvis, rom
ar viyoT Cvenive qveynis srul-
fasovani moqalaqeebi, rac gamo-
ixateba enisadmi mtruli da ag-
resiuli damoukidebulebiT. xe-
lisuflebas gaazrebuli ar
aqvs, ra Sedegebs miviRebT amiT
arcTu Soreul perspeqtivaSi.
magaliTad xelisuflebis erT-
erT uxeS Secdomas moviyvan:
parlamentma daamtkica kanoni
yvela ucxoenovani filmis qar-
Tuli titrebiT gaSvebis Taoba-
ze, rac realurad aZnelebs
mxatvruli filmis Semecnebas.
dameTanxmebiT Znelia, roca Tan
titrebs kiTxulob da amavdro-
ulad vizualuradac uyureb
films. amis mizani iyo qarTuli
mosaxleobisTvis yuri SeeCviaT
inglisuri enisTvis. sinamdvile-
Si am mcdelobam ukuSedegi ga-
moiRo, razec xelisuflebas sa-
erTod ar ufiqria. kerZod, mo-
saxleobis didma nawilma Tavi-
anTi televizorebi rusul ar-
xebze gadarTo, ase moiZebna mar-
tivi gamosavali. Sedegad mivi-
ReT is, rom inglisuris nacv-
lad ufro ukeT vswavlobT ru-
suls. es naTeli magaliTia imi-
sa, Tu ra mokle WkuiT azrov-
nebs xelisufleba. Tu Cven sa-
xelmwifos ki ara did super-
markets vaSenebT, maSin yvelafe-
ri gasagebia, magram Tu marTla
saxelmwifos Seneba gvinda, amis
mTavari RerZi, xerxemali _ sa-
xelmwifo enaa. rodesac xeli-
sufleba gveubneba bavSvma 5
wlis asakidan inglisuri enis
swavla unda daiwyoso, es niS-
navs, rom man inglisurad unda
aidgas ena, Seimecnos samyaro,
daiwyos azrovneba.
_ ra gamodis, rom saqarTve-
los xelisufleba araqarTvel
Taobas gvizrdis?
_ diax, swored ase gamodis.
kargad davakvirdeT _ rogor
Taobas uzrdis xelisufleba
qveyanas _ araqarTvels? xom sa-
interesoa, ra amoZravebs xeli-
suflebas? _ es pirdapir mibmu-
lia im tendenciebTan, im farul
mdinarebebTan, rasac xelisuf-
leba saqarTveloSi Tundac
ucxo tomelis SemosvliT ake-
Tebs. dRes, faqtobrivad saqar-
Tvelo karRia qveyanaa. nebismie-
ri erovnebis adamians _ Cinels,
Turqs, indoels da a.S. SeuZlia
uproblemod Semovides da aq
damkvidrdes. xelisuflebas ar
ainteresebs qarTveli erisgan
dakompleqtebuli mosaxleoba,
aramed adamianTa masa, rogorc
saarCevno eleqtorati. xom un-
da mivxvdeT bolos da bolos
ras akeTebs es xelisufleba? _
igi cdilobs garedan moizidos
adamianTa sakmaod didi jgufi,
masa, romelic misTvis iqneba ara
moqalaqe, aramed saarCevno xma.
rogorc dRes somexi, azerbai-
janeli hyavs, Cinelic, Turqic
da sxvac swored amisTvis sWir-
deba, rom sakuTar eleqtoratad
aqcios arCevnebSi. is, razec ax-
la Cven vsaubrobT, mas srule-
biT ar aRelvebs, anu ar ainte-
resebs qarTuli saxelmwifos
arseboba, romelic Tavis TavSi
qarTul sulier, kulturul,
erovnul Rirebulebebs gulisx-
mobs. mas ainteresebs mxolod
Zalauflebis SenarCuneba da ra-
dgan am saqmes qarTvelebi ar
hyofnis, ucxo tomis adamianTa
jgufebs ierTebs, riTac qarT-
vels nel-nela ucxo qveynidan
Semosuls uTanabrebs. es faru-
li da mtruli gegmaa.
_ ra viTarebaa am kuTxiT im
teritoriebze, sadac kompaqtu-
rad arian dasaxlebuli Cveni
moqalaqe azerbaijanlebi, somxe-
bi?
_ am mxrivac sakmaod rTuli
viTarebaa. vinmem scada maTi in-
tegracia qarTul sazogadoeba-
Si? _ ra Tqma unda ara. ra ga-
akeTaa am kuTxiT xelisufle-
bam? _ im motiviT da sababiT,
rom saqarTvelos yvela moqala-
qe Tanabari unda iyos, integra-
ciisTvis ki Turme mowmobaSi
erovnuli grafis arseboba yo-
fila xelisSemSleli faqtori,
adgnen da erovnebis grafa amo-
Sales. dagvrCa saqarTvelos mo-
qalaqe, romelsac arc erovneba
aqvs, arc mamis saxeli. amiT, vi-
Tom somexs, azerbaijanels uTx-
res Tqvenc saqarTvelos moqa-
laqeebi xarTo. ki, magram aqamde
ar iyvnen isini saqarTvelos mo-
qalaqeebi? somexs, azerbaijane-
ls orives aqvs Tavisi samSob-
lo, magram sad varT Cven, sad
aris Cveni samSoblo somexs, az-
erbaijanels ki amouSales ori-
ves grafidan erovneba, magram
maT orives saxelmwifo aqvT.
Cven gvaqvs sxva saxelmwifo?!
elementarulad, amogvSales er-
ebis siidan. amis Semdeg ciniz-
mia, roca amboben saqarTvelos
saxelmwifo ena qarTuliao. ga-
magebineT, ratom ar aris somxu-
ri an azerbaijanuli Cveni sa-
xelmwifo ena?! mova dro da es
sakiTxi realurad dadgeba. som-
xebma ukve Tqves ratom ar aris
somxuri regionaluri ena, Cven
ra, ar varT am qveynis moqalaqe-
ebio? azerbaijanelic igives
ityvis igi saqarTvelos momxma-
rebluri TvalsazrisiT uyu-
rebs, sadac SeiZleba moiyvanos
kargi mosavali, es misTvis ar
aris samSoblo. aravin ar uTx-
ra maT _ es Tqveni samSob-
loao. xelisuflebas es rom
ndomoda azerbaijanul da som-
xur skolebs ki ar daafinanseb-
da, aramed imaze izruneba, rom
am adamianebs qarTulad mieRoT
ganaTleba. dRes ki ra xdeba _
xelisufleba mezobel somxebs
da azerbaijanelebs kadrebs uz-
rdis, aq TavianT enaze ganaTle-
bas Rebuloben da mere codnas
TavianT qveyanaSi iyeneben. Cven
xelisuflebas ar aqvs interesi
sakuTari moqalaqeebi aRzardos.
aq dabadebuli, gazrdili some-
xi Tavs qarTvelad rom ar
Tvlis _ es misi ki ara, Cveni
bralia imitom, rom maT am siv-
rceSi umtkivneulo integrire-
bis saSualeba ar miecaT. arc
wina da arc axlandel xeli-
suflebas amis gakeTeba ar ain-
teresebda, Camoivlida somxeTis
prezidenti da mouwodebda som-
xebs SevardnaZisTvis miecaT xma,
mere saakaSvilisTvis xmis mice-
misken mouwodebdnen da a.S. es
xom xmebis sakmaod didi nawi-
lia, faqtobrivad ganmsazRvre-
lia saarCevno sistemis dros.
warmogidgeniaT, ra cinizmia,
Cveni amomrCeveli mezobeli sa-
xelmwifos prezidentebisgan
imarTeba. Cveni arCevnebia es? _
nuras ukacravad, varT. maTi sa-
winaaRmdego araferi maqvs, ub-
ralod amiT imis Tqma minda,
rom saxelmwifo ar gvaqvs. Cve-
ni damokidebuleba enisadmi ma-
xinji, arasaxelmwfieobrivia da
amis Sedegia, rom Cvensave qveya-
naSi samSoblos vkargavT. safr-
Txe, rac ukve realobad iqca
afxazeTsa da samxreT-oseTSi,
nebismier dRes SeiZleba moxdes
Cvens teritoriis erTi nawili,
romelic kompaqturadaa dasax-
lebuli araqarTveli mosaxleo-
biT da absoluturad araferi
akavebs, mezobel saxelmwifos
miuerTon. mere sadac ar unda
viCivloT, azri ar eqneba.
xelisuflebam gviTxra Tu
inglisuri ici saqarTveloSi
samuSaosac iSovi da kargadac
iqnebi, amisTvis sulac ar aris
saWiro codnao. amiT somexs
Sensken mosasvleli gza daux-
Ses. es gza qarTulis codnaze
gadis, sxvanairad somexi qarTve-
lamde ver mova. mTavari atribu-
ti, niSani, riTac am qveynis mo-
qalaqis statusi ganisazRvreba,
sakuTari saxelmwifo enis cod-
naa. Cven piriqiT davufinanseT
maT skola, somxuri saxelmwi-
foebrioba. da isini mere Tavi-
qveyana avadaa _ `saerTogazeTi~ konsiliums iwvevs
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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anT samSobloSi midian ganaTle-
bulni. anu igi Tavisi mentali-
tetiT somexad darCa, ver gaqar-
Tvelda.
_ is problema, razec axla
Tqven saubrobT pirdapir kav-
SirSia qveynis saxelmwifoebriv
SenebasTan. xelisufleba obieq-
tebis gaxsnas gviTvlis saxelm-
wifos SenebaSi. ra realobaa si-
namdvileSi?
_ viRac-viRacebi gvatyueben
_ avaSeneT xidi, davageT gzebi,
anu qarTul saxelmwifos vaSe-
nebTo. xidebis, obieqtebis mSe-
nebloba ar aris sakmarisi atri-
buti saxelmwifos mSeneblobis-
Tvis. SeiZleba aSenebde gzebs,
xidebs da am dros, sinamdvile-
Si saxelmwifos angrevde. sa-
xelmwifo mxolod xidebis mSe-
nebloba ki ara, aramed kultu-
ruli, enobrivi, sulieri farse-
ulobebis konglomeratia, rome-
lic adamianebs saerTo miznebiTa
da amocanebiT aerTianebs. roca
am yvelafers xazs usmev da mxo-
lod xidebis Senebaze gaqvs aq-
centi, es xidi adamianebs saxel-
mwifos asaSeneblad ver gaaer-
Tianebs.
es samwuxaro rea-lobaa, romelSic didixania vimyofebiT danacvlad imisa, rom sa-zogadoeba dafiqrdesimaze, rom es qveyana uk-ve wagvarTves da axlaTandaTanobiT amis ga-daformeba mimdinare-obs, Cven raRac sisu-leleebze vlaparako-bT. qarTvel xalxs Seg-nebuli ar aqvs is rea-loba, romelSic dResimyofeba. es katastro-fuli realobaa. Cven kiam dros raRac Zalismier varT, faqtobri-vad dapyrobili qveya-na varT. dagvipyres,gagvaTaxsires, dagva-Coqes, gadagviares, Cv-en am dros viZaxiT ar-Cevnebi axlovdebao.risi arCevnebi axlov-deba? risTvis, ratomvirCevT vinmes, rocaaraferi gagvaCnia, argvaqvs saSualeba um-niSvnelo procesis wa-rmarTvisac ki. am sa-xelmwifoSi rac gag-vaCnda yvelaferi dav-kargeT. Tu xelisufle-bas qarTuli ena, jerkidev ar daviwynia, sW-irdeba imisTvis, romkargad Segaginos, Ca-recxili, gaTaxsirebu-li giwodos. gviginebsyvelafers da imis nac-vlad, rom xma aRvimaR-loT, gegmebs vala-gebT. ra gegmebs vala-gebT, rodesac qveyanaar gvaqvs, elementaru-lad ar varsebobT,amoSlili, amofxekilivarT, bodiSiT, magram
sakuTar qveyanaSi, sa-kuTar saxlSi gvaupa-tiureben. Cven umTavre-si _ Rirsebis grZnobadavkargeT. uRirsi ad-amiani orfexa cxove-lia da sxva araferi.dRes, Cven swored amsituaciaSi varT.
_ ra aris gamosavali qveynis
am rTuli viTarebidan gamoyva-
nis?
_ Seqmnili situaciidan
swori daskvnebi unda gavakeToT
da vTqvaT _ ase ver gagrZelde-
ba, veRar avitanT amden Seu-
racxyofaso. Tu ase ar moxdeba,
Zalian mcire xanSi gavqrebiT,
amas ar sWirdeba saukuneebi. de-
mografiulad katastroful vi-
Tarebas Tavi rom davaneboT,
mTavari ZarRvis amocla _ enis,
erovnulobis mospoba gagvaq-
robs. Cveni Taoba wava, modis ni-
Wieri axalgazrdoba, magram xe-
lisufleba maT eubneba _ ingli-
surenovani moqalaqe xaro. erT
ambavs mogiyvebiT, filologiis
fakultetze vswavlobdi, sadac
paralelurad rusuli enis gan-
yofilebac iyo. erTxel mcxeTis
jvarze avediT erToblivad. co-
ta rom SevzarxoSdiT leqsebis
kiTxva daviwyeT. erTi maTgani
atirda da Tqva _ qarTveli var,
yvelaferi mesmis, magram ver
vgrZnobo. anu man sakuTari enis
mimarT grZnoba dakarga. _
Tu Cven vapirebT sa-qarTveloSi inglisu-ri ena urTierTgagebi-nebis saSualebad gamo-viyenoT, maSin xelTSegvrCeba Semdegi viTa-reba _ inglisurenova-ni somxebi, inglisure-novani azerbaijanele-bi da inglisurenovaniqarTvelebi. Cndeba ki-
Txva _ ra hqvia im qveya-nas, sadac es inglisu-renovani xalxi cxov-robs?
Tanac, ena mxolod urTierT-
gagebinebis saSualeba xom ar
aris, amiT xar dakavSirebuli
Sens uZveles fesvebTan, saida-
nac modixar. roca es xazi gada-
iWreba, fesvebTan urTierTobas
hkargav, da ukve aRar xar is,
rac iyavi. am patara bavSvebma
SeiZleba ki ician qarTuli, mag-
ram grZnoba dakarges, ver
grZnoben enis sidiades, simSveni-
eres da mSobliurobas. amitom
ase gazrdili adamiani ar aris
qarTveli, ufro swored igi
falsificirebuli qarTvelia.
saxeli da gvari _ iarliyi
adevs garedan qarTvelis, sinam-
dvileSi qarTveli ar aris. vin
aris es qarTveli aseTio _ es
SeiZleba iman Tqvas, vinc qarT-
veli ar aris da genetikurad
sZuls yvelaferi qarTuli, sa-
qarTvelo. am dros saxeli da
gvari qarTuli aqvs, magram qar-
Tvelebi genetikurad sZuls.
genetika iseTi ra-maa, rasac verafersmouxerxeb. Tu ucxo ji-Sis xar, SeiZleba arcicode ise gZuldes is,vis rigebSic CagweresTu Caewere.
sxvagvarad ver vxsni im ag-
resias, mtrobas, ubedurebas, si-
Zulvils, rac am sruliad ara-
pativcemulma xelisuflebam sa-
qarTvelos mosaxleobas daatexa
Tavs.
_ saubris dasawyisSi Tqven
saqarTveloSi ucxo tomebis Se-
modinebaze isaubreT. problema,
albaT isicaa, rom Semodis yve-
la qarTvelis garda. qarTveli
ucxo qveynidan samSobloSi ve-
Rar brundeba. ras niSnavs es?
_ diax, esaa swo-
red Cveni ubedureba,
rom xelisuflebis
uniaTobis gamo ucxo
qveyanaSi gadaxvewili
qarTveli samSobloSi
ar ki ara, ver brun-
deba. yvela, ucxo to-
mis moqalaqes SeuZ-
lia Cvens qveyanaSi
Semosvla, miwis yidva,
aq darCena da damkvid-
reba, qarTvels ki _
ara. wasuli qarTve-
lis ukan dabruneba,
sinamdvileSi aravis
ainteresebs.
ar unda dagvaviwy-
des erTi mniSvnelo-
vani detali _ vinc
qarTuli universite-
tis saTaveebTan idg-
nen, maT umravlesobas
ganaTleba rusul ena-
ze hqondaT miRebuli,
magram SesaniSnavad
icodnen, rom es qar-
Tul saxelmwifos Se-
nebisTvis sakmarisi ar
iyo. axlandeli xeli-
suflebis paTosi ase-
Tia _ umetesobam
ucxo qveynebSi ingli-
sur enaze daamTavres
universitetebi da
Tvlian, rom amitom
inglisad unda gadaa-
keTon samSoblo. ase,
rom Cveni winaprebic
aaSenebdnen rusule-
novan universitetebs,
magram es xom ar iqne-
boda saqarTvelosT-
vis gaweuli samsax-
uri? maT ubralod
ganaTleba miiRes ru-
sulad da meti arafe-
ri. Tu ginda qveyana
aaSeno, es Sens enaze
unda gaakeTo.
axalgazrdobis pe-
riodSi maxsovs ro-
gori qarTuli iTvle-
boda qalaqelobis
dasturad. qarTveli,
Tbiliseli kaci qar-
Tulad somxur kilo-
ze saubrobda. qarT-
velma imdenad dakarga
qarTuli cnobiereba,
mis Tanaqalaqel so-
mexs mibaZa. imis nacv-
lad, rom somexi ga-
qarTvelebuliyo, qar-
Tveli gasomxda. sam-
wuxarod, Cven men-
talurad gasomxebu-
li dedaqalaqi gvaqvs.
es politika razec
mogaxseneT somxuri
da ara qarTuli po-
litikaa. es ar aris
qarTuli saxelmwi-
fos politika. es
aris Semogdebuli,
Semoparebuli poli-
tika, romelmac iqamde
migviyvana, rasac afxa-
zeTSi ZmaTamkvleli
omi hqvia. vin ibrZoda
iq qarTvelebis wina-
aRmdeg yvelaze daun-
doblad? _ somexi.
xxmmaa kkaattaammoonnTTaann
o, enav Cemo,
dedao enav,
Sen Cveno niWo,
srbolav da frenav,
Sen, Cveni sunTqvis dido alamo,
Sen, WirTa CvenTa tkbilo malamo,
Sen, kiro CvenTa qvaTa da kirTa,
Sen erTi SemrCi samaris pirTan.
naTesavs aTass
megobars aTass,
mrudsa da marTals,
mterTa da ZmaTa
davSordi,
morCa,
yvela moTavda,
mSvidoba vuTxar yvela mokvdavTa.
mxolod Sen ukvdavs,
mxolod Sen marads,
Sen _ erTs,
Sen ver gTmob
samaris karad.
Tu ram mze mwamda,
Tu ram mze mwvavda,
utkbiles dReTa
utkbiles wamTa,
utkbesi Sen xar, enav dedao,
Sen, mware lxino,
tkbilo sevdao,
Sen, yovelis mTqmelo,
yovelis ar mTqmelo,
Sen, gmirTa gmiro,
brZeno qarTvelo,
warsulis Zeglo, win gamxedavo.
qvesknelSi mZromo,
caSi mWvretelo,
xan _ funjo Cemo, xan _ saWreTelo.
Sen, akvnis himno,
cremlo samaris.
iberis enav,
enav Tamaris.
Sen, niWo Cemo,
srbolav da frenav,
dedao enav, dedao enav!
daeces, iqneb simagre yvela,
moisras, iqneb, yvela yma velad,
daedos mtveri yvela did xsovnas,
daakvdes azri napovnis povnas.
yovel nergs, iqneb, daatydes mexi,
yovel Zegls, iqneb, daedgas fexi,
mxolod Sen uWknobs,
Sen xatad qceuls,
ra dro, ra dascems
Sens ukvdav sxeuls?
o, enav Cemo,
dedao enav,
Sen, Cemo niWo,
srbolav da frenav,
Sen, Cveni sunTqvis dido alamo,
Sen, WirTa CvenTa tkbilo malamo,
Sen, kiro CvenTa qvaTa da kirTa,
Sen erTs,
Sen ver gTmob
samaris pirTan.
14 gv.
irakli abaSiZe
`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromiasuli wminda, gonebaze rom
moxvide asi aliyuri ginda!~
14 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
iliam ki Tqva _Cveni Tavi Cve-
nadve gveyudneso. magram ragv-
Wirs, saerTod uTavod davr-
CiT?! anda ratom gvaqvs midre-
kileba iqiTken, rom Tavi ki
gvinda mxrebze gvedgas, magram
amavdroulad gvinda, rom Tavi
sxvam dagvadgas? _ an rusma, an
somexma, an makkeinma, an obamam.
ai, xom dagvadges Tavi da vinc
es gaakeTa, swored man dakarga
is 20 procenti. sinamdvileSi
Cveni teritoriis 20 procenti
ki ara _ 40 procentia dakargu-
li. ar aqvs mniSvneloba Semodis
Tu ara teritoria Sens adminis-
traciul sazRvrebSi, roca igi,
enobrivad dakargulia, misi Se-
narCunebis perspeqtiva nulis
tolia. RmerTma nu qnas da rai-
me ubedureba rom moxdes, yvela
Tavis wil wasaRebs waiRebs.
marto rusi ki ara, garSemo
myofi mezoblebic TavianT wi-
lebs waiReben. am dros ki imaze
vfiqrobT, rogor avametyveloT
Cveni bavSvebi inglisur enaze.
inglisuric unda icodes bavSv-
ma, rusulic, magram, pirvel
rigSi, igi qarTvelad unda ga-
zardo, Tu ginda, rom qarTuli
saxelmwifo SeinarCuno. uamravi
somexi megobari myavs da maTi
sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs. aq
saubaria Cvens uTavbolobaze,
imaze rom saqarTveloSi mcx-
ovrebi araqarTvelebi vaiZuleT
gaucxoebuliyo, aravis araferi
gaukeTebia imisTvis, rom maT Ta-
vis samSobloSi egrZnoT Tavi.
saqarTveloSi dRes ori separa-
tistuli reJimi ki ar aris,
aramed imdeni separatistuli
reJimia aq, ramdeni religiacaa
dabudrebuli. baptistebi, ieRo-
velebi _ maT ukve TavianTi
kulturuli avtonomia aqvT.
Cven sad varT? eseni xom mainc
Cveni sisxli da xorcia, guSin
wavidnen Cvengan imitom, rom ver
da ar vupatroneT. aseve, ver vu-
patroneT saqarTvelos sayrdens
_ afxazeTis qarTvelobas. axla
iZaxian saqarTvelo uafxazeTod
ver Sedgebao. ki, magram Tavian-
Ti politikiT? Tavad ar Seuwy-
ves mis mokveTas xeli? ase, rom,
vfiqrob aseT situaciaSi gamo-
savali saerTod ar aris, garda
erTisa _ Tu Cven marTla eri
gvqvia, unda vTqvaT, rom eri
varT da rasac gvikeTeben amis
bolomde ganxorcielebis, amis
sisruleSi moyvanis uflebas ar
mivcemT. Tu eri varT amoviRoT
xma, Tu ara da CavqindroT Tave-
bi da gvirtyan panRuri. Tu Tav-
ganwirvisTvis, TavdadebisTvis
mzad ar xar da iolad ginda
fons gasvla, swored maSin da-
gajdebian Tavze da dagvajdnen
kidec. samwuxarod, migvixvdnen
Cvens xasiaTs, rom ar varT sam-
SoblosTvis Tavis gamwiravni.
_ xelisufleba yovelTvis
iSveliebs arguments, rom ing-
lisuri enis codna Cvens moqa-
laqes farTod gauxsnis gzas ev-
ropisken? risken swrafvaa es
sinamdvileSi?
_ inglisuri enis swavleba
saqarTvelos aRmSeneblobas nam-
dvilad ar Seuwyobs xels, mag-
ram samagierod xels uwyobs
erT rames _ qarTvelebis masob-
rivad gadinebas sazRvargareT,
raTa iq ufro advilad moewyon
Ramis WurWlis mzidavebad,
mrecxavebad da a.S. ai, amas ki
namdvilad Seuwyobs xels ing-
lisuris codna imitom, rom ro-
ca ori Reri inglisuri ici,
ufro Tamamad midixar ucxo qve-
yanaSi, magram qarTvels gaazre-
buli ar aqvs risTvis midis iq.
imis nacvlad, rom qarTvel ada-
mians stimuli mivceT samSob-
loSi darCenis, saqarTvelos
patronobis, piriqiT, qveynidan
wasvlisken vubiZgebT. aqiTkenaa
es yvelaferi mimarTuli. Cvens
miwa-wyalze qarTvelebis Seviw-
roeba xdeba, am miwa-wylis amT-
visebeli ukve gamoCnda.
_ mainc ras emsaxureba Cveni
xelisuflebis aseTi mondomeba
qarTvelis mentalitetidan qar-
Tuli enis amoZirkva da ingli-
suris damkvidreba?
_ Cveni xelisuflebis did-
ma nawilma qarTulad wera-
kiTxva ar icis. gamoitaneT maTi
nawerebi, CavutaroT gamocda
qarTuli weris karnaxSi, Tu Ca-
abareben, ki batono, iyvnen am
qveynis xelisuflebaSi, magram
Tu ver Caabareben, Tavi dagvane-
bon. darwmunebuli var 70 pro-
centi ver Caabarebs am gamoc-
das, parlamentarTa 80 procen-
tma SeiZleba karnaxic ver da-
weros normalurad da eseni ag-
viSeneben Cven qarTul saxelm-
wifos? daakvirdiT, rogor qar-
Tuls amkvidrebs satelevizio
arxebi _ frangul, inglisur
maxvils svamen qarTul sityveb-
ze. weRan mogiyeviT rogor gaa-
somxa somexma qarTveli SeumC-
nevlad. axla ki qarTveli cdi-
lobs gafrangdes, gainglisel-
des. ise isaubros qarTulad,
rogorc germaneli dailapara-
kebs Cvens enaze. anu es aris Za-
lian kargad gaazrebuli, kar-
gad mofiqrebuli, punqtobrivad
Camowerili gegma, rogor gaa-
Taxsiron qveyana. ena adamianis-
Tvis yvelaferia _ mentalite-
tic, fsiqikac, kulturac, war-
sulic da rodesac enas amogac-
lis xelisufleba, Sengan aRa-
raferi rCeba.
_ da bolos batono vaxtang,
Tqveni saubridan aSkarad ikve-
Teba, rom ilias cnobili tria-
didan _ ena, mamuli, sarwmunoe-
ba, aRaraferi dagvrCa.
_ araferi aRar gvaqvs, ili-
as triadaze ukve didi xania
uari Tqva qarTulma saxelmwi-
fom, es mxolod lamaz sityve-
bad darCa. Cven dRes, faqtobri-
vad apokalifsur situaciaSi
varT.
dRevandeli realo-ba Semdegia _ saqarT-veloSi yvelaze daCag-ruli, Seuracxyofili,daucveli da ufleba-ayrili swored qarT-velia. aseve, rogorcikveTeba, Cvens teri-toriaze arsebul ena-Tagan yvelaze nakle-bad popularuli dasaWiro qarTuli enaa.yovelive amis Semdeggasakviria, ratom hqv-ia Cvens qveyanas saqar-Tvelo. ar sjobs am te-ritorias `obSiJitie~davarqvaT?! kargad da-vufiqrdeT, risTvisgvWirdeboda damouki-debloba, ratom vibr-ZodiT Tavisuflebismosapoveblad. 200 wl-is manZilze qarTvelieri Tavisuflebiskeniswrafvoda. saintere-so ar aris, bolo-bo-lo ratom moviTxoveTdamoukidebloba dareferendumiT uarivTqviT sabWoTa kav-SirSi yofnaze, ra miza-ni gvamoZravebda? _ is,rom ukeTesad gvecxov-ra, ufro meti mosava-li _ kartofili, yur-Zeni, hibriduli simin-di mogveyvana, amisTvisviklavdiT Tavs damou-kideblobis miRebaze?sabWoTa kavSiris peri-odSi saqarTvelos mo-saxleoba, albaT yve-laze kargad cxovrob-da imitom, rom arse-bobda uzarmazari ba-zari, sadac yvelazeuxarisxo saqonelicki, rasac vawarmoeb-diT, uproblemod iyi-
deboda. qarTveli ka-cis niWierebas, gonsuzarmazari gasavalihqonda sabWoTa impe-riis teritoriaze. amyvelaferze uari vTq-viT da ganvacxadeT _damoukidebloba gvin-dao. dRes iciT ra ga-modis? _ Turme imisT-vis gvdomebia damouki-debloba, raTa ar gav-rusebuliyaviT, magramsamagierod unda gava-merikelebuliyaviT,gavingliselebuliya-viT. veravin damarwmu-nebs, ver damisaxelebTerT logikur argumen-tsac ki, rom garusebasgaamerikeleba, gaCine-leba da a.S. sjobs. ga-na, Cven amisTvis vibr-ZodiT?! ra mniSvnelo-ba aqvs maSin sad viqne-biT Tu Cvens erovnulTavisTavadobas, saxes,enas, rac mTavaria qar-Tvelobas davkargavT?amiT imis Tqma minda,rom yvelaze sanukvariocneba, rac qarTvelkacs odiTganve gaaCn-da _ Tavisufleba dadamoukidebloba, namd-vilad movipoveT, mag-ram mere veRar mivxv-diT risTvis unda ga-mogveyenebina es damou-kidebloba da rogorunda gveSenebina qar-Tuli saxelmwifo. am-is gakeTeba enis prio-ritetis win wamowevisgareSe, SeuZlebelia.eris faqtoris uaryo-fa, damoukidebeli qv-eynis aRmSeneblobas kiara, piriqiT, mis ngre-vas gamoiwvevs, rac uk-ve xdeba Cvens sinamdvi-leSi. rogorc ki, saku-Tar qarTul enas zur-gi vaqcieT, maSinve sa-xelmwifos rRveviskenmimarTuli procesebidaiwyo. es absolutu-rad Tanazomieria. da-skvnis saxiT SeiZlebaiTqvas, saxelmwifoena swored is xerxema-lia, ris garSemoc sa-xelmwifos sxeuli _Senoba Sendeba. sxvagva-rad misi Seneba SeuZle-beli, warmoudgenel-ia. rodesac kultura-ze, mwerlobaze, mecni-erebaze, adamianze vsa-ubrobT, es yvelaferienas eyrdnoba. warmo-udgenelia, qarTulikultura enis gareSeganviTardes. imedi ma-qvs, am Temaze saubars`saerTo gazeTis~ mom-devno nomrebSi gavagr-ZelebT, raSic kompe-tenturi da Tavisiqveynis gulSematkiva-ri adamianebi CaerTve-bian.
Tamar SveliZe(Temis gagrZeleba iqneba)
`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromiasuli wminda, gonebaze rom
moxvide asi aliyuri ginda!~
13 gv.
dRes ,,,qarTuli oocnebis~ ddargobrivi jjgufis pprezentacia ggaimarTebadRes sazogadoebrivi moZraobis ,,qarTuli ocnebis” dargobrivi jgufis
_ ,,samarTlis sistema, adamianis uflebebi da marTlmsajuleba” prezentacia
gaimarTeba.
rogorc ,,medianiuss~ biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivnoSi ganucxades, sa-
zogadoebriv moZraobaSi Camoyalibda dargobrivi mimarTuleba, romelic sa-
marTlis sistemas, adamianebis uflebebs da marTlmsajulebas gulisxmobs.
,,am dargobrivi jgufis mizania Sesabamis sferoebSi Seqmnili viTarebis
analizi. jgufs sami ZiriTadi mimarTuleba aqvs. esenia: samarTlis sistema,
adamianis uflebebi da marTlmsajuleba.
prezentacias akademiuri wris, advokatTa gaerTianebis, uflebadamcvel-
Ta korpusis cnobili warmomadgenlebi daeswrebian” _ acxadeben pressamdivnoSi da dasZenen, rom
Tematur jgufebs uxelmZRvaneleben advokati ioseb baraTaSvili, media-ssamarTlis eqsperti aleq-
sandre baramiZe, arasamTavrobo organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi paata gaCeCilaZe, naTia kunwuraS-
vili, iuristi paata cnobilaZe da uflebadamcveli uCa nanuaSvili.
`medianiusi~* * *
xval, 21 dekembers, 14 saaTze sazogadoebrivi moZraoba qarTuli ocnebis iuridiuli jgufis
warmomadgenlebi saqarTveloSi akreditirebuli diplomatiuri korpusis warmomadgenlebs Sexvde-
bian. saubris Teba bolo periodSi biZina ivaniSvilis garSemo ganviTarebul movlenebi iqneba.
misamarTi: Tbilisi merioti, mirian mefis darbazi.
biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivno
15#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi
mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT
Tbilisi kvlav cdilobs,
2008 wlis movlenebze pasuxis-
mgebloba moskovs sasamarTlos
meSveobiT daakisros.
adamianis uflebebis evro-
pulma sasamarTlom warmoebaSi
miiRo saqarTvelos sarCeli
moskovis winaaRmdeg. analogiu-
ri sarCeli, romelsac haagis
sasamarTlo ganixilavda, uar-
yofilia. eqspertebs miaCniaT,
rom evropuli sasamarTlos
verdiqts mniSvnelovanwilad
gansazRvravs evrokavSiris ko-
misiis daskvnebi, romelTa mi-
xedviTac konfliqti swored
saqarTvelos mizeziT daiwyo.
wardgenili sarCeliT, sa-
qarTvelo iTxovs, ruseTi 2008
wlis omSi da Semdgom _ `afxa-
zeTisa da samxreT oseTis oku-
paciis periodSi~ evropuli
konvenciebis ramdenime muxlis
darRvevaSi daadanaSaulos.
saqarTvelo waradgens ro-
gorc mtkicebulebebs, agreTve
mowmeTaACvenebebsac, _ acxadeben
qarTuli mxaris oficialuri wa-
rmomadgenlebi. jerjerobiT uc-
nobia, rodis daiwyeba es proce-
si, romelSic ruseTic, rogorc
mxare, monawileobas miiRebs.
evropul sasamarTloSi sa-
qarTvelos saCivris ganxilva
seqtemberSi daiwyo; saqarTve-
lom sasamarTlos jer kidev
2008 wlis agvistoSi, samxreT
oseTis konfliqtis dasrulebis
dRes mimarTa. Semdgom, samjer
Seavso saCivari: 2009 wlis Te-
bervalSi, SarSan martSi da
wleuls ivnisSi. sarCeliT,
Tbilisi moskovs bralad debs
`ruseTis armiis mier saqarT-
velos regionebis _ afxazeTisa
da samxreT oseTis samoqalaqo
sazogadoebis sicocxlisa da
qonebis xelyofas~.
dokumentis Tanaxmad, ru-
seTma daarRvia ramdenime muxli
sicocxlis uflebis Sesaxeb,
wamebisa da damamcirebeli mopy-
robis akrZalvis Sesaxeb. saqar-
Tvelos mtkicebiT, ruseTma da-
arRvia agreTve: Tavisuflebisa
da piradi xelSeuxeblobis,
kerZo da ojaxuri cxovrebis,
samarTlebrivi dacvis efeqtiani
saSualebis, sakuTrebisa da ga-
daadgilebis uflebebi.
sxvaTa Soris, strasburgis
sasamarTlos 2008 wlis konf-
liqtTan dakavSirebiT,samxreT
oseTis 3300-ma mcxovrebma mi-
marTa. sarCelebis naxevarze me-
ti aRiarebulia rogorc legi-
timurobis uflebis mqone da
evrosasamarTlo maT ganxilva-
sac apirebs.
TbilisSi seqtemberSive ac-
xadebdnen, rom sasamarTlos uk-
ve warudgines imis mtkicebule-
bebi, rogor irRveoda `sistema-
turad da farTo masStabiT~
uSualod ruseTis samxedroebis
an maTi mxardaWeriT waqezebuli
marionetuli samxedro formi-
rebebis mier adamianis uflebebi
im teritoriaze, romelsac ru-
seTis federacia akontrolebs.
im periodSi, ruseTma am
braldebebs `usafuZvlo da da-
udasturebeli SesaZlo mtkice-
bulebebi~ uwoda. `ruseTis fe-
deraciis samxedro Zalebi Tavs
aravis dasxmia. isini samxreT
oseTis samoqalaqo mosaxleobas
saqarTvelos agresiisgan icavd-
nen. amjerad, saqmis ganxilvisas
mxareebi kvlav waradgenen Tavi-
anT argumentebs.
saqarTvelo gaeros saerTa-
Soriso (haagis) sasamarTloSic
cdilobda ruseTis dadanaSau-
lebas: 1993 wlidan moyolebu-
li (1993 wlis seqtemberSi
damTavrda qarTul-afxazuri,
xolo ufro adre, 1992 wels
_ qarTul-osuri pirveli konf-
liqti) _ moskovi `iaraRis mo-
maragebiT, daqiravebuli mebrZo-
lebiTa da ruseTis SeiaraRebu-
li Zalebis samxedro Tavdasx-
miT, afxazeTisa da samxreT ose-
Tis separatistul Zalebs qar-
Tvelebis eTnikur wmendaSi
uwyobda xels~.
haagis sasamarTlom es sarCe-
li ar miiRo. man saqarTvelos
SesTavaza, Tavisi pretenziebi
uSualod ruseTTan ganexila da
Tu es mcdeloba uSedego aRmoCn-
deboda, sarCeli xelaxla Seetana.
mixeil saakaSvilis mTavro-
bisTvis msgavs sasamarTloebs,
uwinaresad, politikuri mniSv-
neloba aqvs. saqarTvelo yvela
saerTaSoriso organizaciaSi
samxreT oseTsa da afxazeTSi
momxdari movlenebis sakuTari
versiis lobirebas eweva. da ar-
cTu uSedegod _ termini `oku-
pacia~ ukve gaCnda evroparla-
mentisa da sxva saerTaSoriso
institutebis gancxadebebSi.
Tbiliss imasac hpirdebian,
rom sasamarTloebSi gamarjveba
mas saSualebas miscems, mosko-
visgan `rusuli agresiis~ dros
dazaralebulTaTvis kompensa-
cia miiRos. winaswar ar amboben,
Tbiliss kompensaciis ra mocu-
loba daakmayofilebda.
saqarTvelos yofili premi-
er-ministri Tengiz sigua darw-
munebulia, rom evrosasamarT-
los verdiqti iqneba daaxloe-
biT 50X50-ze. evrokavSiris
2009 wlis komisiam konfliqt-
ze pasuxismgebloba daakisra
rogorc saqarTvelos, aseve ru-
seTs _ ruseTi sababs eZebda sa-
qarTveloze Tavdasasxmelad, sa-
qarTvelom ki, samxreT oseTis
dabombviT, aseTi sababi misca.
aseTia saerTaSoriso eqspertTa
Sefasebebi da amitomac sasamar-
Tlo gadawyvetilebas am komi-
siis daskvnebis safuZvelze mii-
Rebs.
qarTvel politologTa erT
nawils ki miaCnia, rom 2008
wlis konfliqtis istoriuli
Sedegebi sjobs `mrgval magi-
dasTan~ _ dialogis saxiT gani-
xilebodes da ara sasamarTlo
darbazebSi. mTavaria ara sasa-
marTlos gadawyvetileba, ara-
med qarTvelebisa da afxazebis,
qarTvelebisa da osebis daax-
loeba. sasamarTlo ar aris di-
alogis saukeTeso forma. Tanac,
saerTaSoriso sasamarTlos ga-
naCens yovelTvis rodi asrule-
ben.
moskovSi varaudoben, rom
SesaZloa, evrosasamarlos es
procesi ruseTze zemoqmedebisT-
vis gamoiyenon. ruseTis polit-
mimomxilvelTa azriT, SemTxve-
viTi ar aris, rom sarCeli swo-
red axla _ ruseTis winasaar-
Cevno ori kampaniis SualedSi
miiRes. sasamarTlos gadawyveti-
leba iqneba erT-erTi elementi,
romliTac ruseTis xelisufle-
baze zemoqmedebas Seecdebian.
vz.ru
sabWoTa kavSiris daSla sa-
qarTvelos samoqalaqo omad,
teritoriebis dakargvad da
ekonomikis rRvevad daujda,
Tumca nanatri damoukidebloba
mainc moipova.
saqarTvelom damoukideblo-
ba jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris
oficialurad daSlamde gamo-
acxada da 1991 wlis maisSi
zviad gamsaxurdia suverenuli
respublikis pirvel preziden-
tad airCies. maleve gairkva,
rom yofil sabWoTa disidentsa
da erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebe-
li moZraobis erT-erT mTavar
wambiZgebelze fsonis dadeba
wamgebiani aRmoCnda: qveyana myi-
sierad gadaiqca srul çàõîëó-ñòüå sruliadoficialurad ga-
mocxadebuli lozungiT: `saqar-
Tvelo qarTvelebisTvis!~.
damoukidebeli respubliki-
dan `tvinebisa da xelebis~ ma-
sobrivi gadineba daiwyo, Tanac
ara marto `satitulo eridan~.
xalxi ZiriTadad gaeSura ru-
seTisken, romlisganac arcTu
didi xnis win gamoqcevas la-
mobda: sabWoTa kavSiri xom ara
yofil `Tavisufal~ respubli-
kebTan, aramed yovlismocveli
moskovis diqtatTan asocirde-
boda.
zviad gamsaxurdias mosv-
lasTan erTad samoqalaqo omi
gaCaRda, romlis Sedegebi tra-
gikuli iyo TviTon preziden-
tisTvis: jer Camoagdes, Semdeg
ki an mokles an Tavi moikla.
saqarTvelos gamoeyo ori regi-
oni _ samxreT oseTis avtono-
miuri olqi da afxazeTis avto-
nomiuri respublika. mogviane-
biT, lamis aWarac `gafrinda~ _
saqarTvelos mesame prezidentma
mixeil saakaSvilma jer meore
prezidenti eduard SevardnaZe,
Semdeg ki aWaris avtonomiis me-
Tauri aslan abaSiZe Camoagdo.
2008 wlis omis Sedegad ki sa-
qarTvelos teritoriaze ori
damoukidebeli respublika gaCn-
da.
qarTuli damoukideblobis
pirveli cameti weli yofil
sabWoTa respublikebTan ekono-
mikuri urTierTobebis rRveviT,
mwvave energetikuli krizisiT,
wlis ganmavlobaSi biujetis
samjer sekvestriT da xazinis
qurdobiT gamoirCeoda. imata
danaSaulma, yoveldRiurad ada-
mianebis motacebam; samagierod,
`demokratia~ ulevi iyo: gaze-
TebSi Tavisuflad iwereboda
yvelaferi, razec da viszec mo-
indomebdnen. televiziiTac mra-
valserian siuJetebs gadascemd-
nen xelisuflebis naklovan mxa-
reebze, magram es ambebi mayureb-
lamde ver aRwevda Suqis arar-
sebobis gamo. mosaxleoba Tveo-
biT ver iRebda xelfass, pensi-
as, daxmarebas...
axla bevri fiqrobs, rom Se-
vardnaZe demokrati iyo, Tumca
`Secdomebic mosdioda~, xolo
misi sagareo politika ruseTi-
sa da dasavleTis dabalansebas
cdilobda. sabWoTa kavSiris sa-
gareo saqmeTa ministri, romlis
saqarTveloSi meored movlineba
ruseTma uzrunvelyo, TandaTa-
nobiT aRarc moskovisTvis iyo
misaRebi da aRarc vaSingtonis-
Tvis: ori batonis samsaxurma
igi CixSi moaqcia.
`vardebis revoluciam~ sa-
qarTvelos postsabWour mesame
epoqas daudo saTave. mas isto-
rikosebi ocdaaTi wlis Semdeg
Tu Seafaseben piruTvnelad,
Tumca dRevandeli xelisufle-
bis kritikosTa mtkicebiT, ko-
rufcia aRar arsebobs saSualo
da dabal doneze, xolo egreT
wodebuli `elituri~ korufcia
yvavis. miuxedavad amisa, aravis
mouva azrad, policiels, pro-
kurors an mosamarTles qrTami
SeaZlios, fuliT raime cnoba
iyidos, moewyos umaRles sas-
wavlebelSi...
xelisuflebas uyvars tra-
baxi, rom saqarTveloSi bizne-
sis dawyeba Zalzed iolia, rad-
gan aRar arsebobs saqmis biu-
rokratiulad gaWianureba da
rom igi liberalur reformebs
atarebs. strategiuli ganviTa-
rebisa da saerTaSoriso kvleve-
bis qarTuli fondis eqsperti
lado papava miiCnevs, rom qveya-
naSi `xSirad irRveva adamianis
ufleba kerZo sakuTrebis Sesa-
xeb. `Cveni ekonomika arc libe-
raluria da arc bolSevikuri
_ es aris neoliberalizmisa da
neobolSevizmis nazavi~, _ ga-
nacxada man vaSingtonSi, karne-
gis centrSi gamarTul konfe-
renciaze `samxreT kavkasia _
damoukideblobis 20 weli~.
eqsperti darwmunebulia,
rom `saqarTveloSi ekonomikuri
problemebi sabWoTa kavSiris
daSlis gamo ki ara, Cvenive
Secdomebis gamo gaCnda~. misive
azriT, saqarTvelom Tavisi eko-
nomikuri mdgomareoba unda Sea-
daros ara sabWoTa kavSiris pe-
riodisas, aramed aRmosavleT
evropis im qveynebisas, romle-
bic evrokavSiris Semadgenloba-
Si arian. Tanac, aucilebelia
gavarkvioT, `ratom CamovrCebiT
maT da ratom ver moaqvs Cvens
reformebs warmateba~.
romels warmatebazea lapa-
raki, roca qveyanaSi mwvavea Sem-
degi problemebi: umuSevroba,
socialuri uzrunvelyofa, jan-
dacvisa da ganaTlebis xelmisa-
wvdomoba. ukidureasd mZime
mdgomareobaSia soflis meurne-
oba, sofeli gaRatakebulia da
sabWoTaAperiodis sofelTan Se-
darebisas es erT-erTi yvelaze
didi kontrastia.
istoriis am etapze, qarTu-
li saxelmwifoebriobis (iseve
rogorc postsabWoTa qveynebis)
cxovelmyofelobasa da sicocx-
lisunarianobas ganapirobebs
qveynis pirveli piri. anu saqar-
TveloSi jer ver Camoyalibda
saxelmwifoebrivi da konstitu-
ciuri iseTi uryevi sistema,
romelic stabilurad uzrunve-
lyofda mis ganviTarebas, miuxe-
davad imisa, vin aris saxel-
mwifos meTauri. es saqarTve-
los umTavresi problemaa.
rosbalt.ru
zemoqmedebis erT-erTi elementi
saqarTvelo ukve wavida, magram bolomde ver miaRwia
internetmimoxilva moamzada
gulbaaT WavWavaZem.
16 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
„prezidento saakaSvilo, nu
moklavT presas!“ _ orSabaTs ga-
mosuli beWduri presis TiTqmis
yvela saSualebas aseTi sityvebi
hqonda wamZRvarebuli. mogvianebiT
ki „Tbilisi meriotSi“ mediagaer-
Tianebac dafuZnda, romelic xe-
lisuflebisgan wamosuli mediaag-
resiis winaaRmdeg iqneba mimarTu-
li.
mediagaerTianeba profkavSire-
bis msgavsi ar iqneba, aramed mas-
Si ndobiT aRsavse Jurnalistebi
da iuristebi gaerTiandebian, rom-
lebsac mediamflobelebi xelfas-
sac gadauxdian im aqtiurobisT-
vis, rac mediasaSualebaze konkre-
tuli zewolis dros mediis dac-
visas gaxdeba saWiro. amasTan, me-
diagaerTianebis warmomadgenlebi
SeimuSaveben sqemas, romlis mixed-
viTac, gaavrceleben gancxadebebs,
gagzavnian saprotesto werilebs
da aqciebis organizebasac moaxde-
nen. mediagaerTianeba daxmarebis
mizniT axalgazrda iuristTa aso-
ciacias mimarTavs da maTTan er-
Tad SeimuSavebs mediagaerTianebis
wesdebas.
marTalia, axladdafuZnebul
mediagaerTianebaSi yofnis survi-
li nacionaluri mediasaSualebe-
bis warmomadgenlebs ar gamouTq-
vamT, magram axladdafuZnebuli me-
diagaerTianebis wevrebisTvis ne-
bismieri mediasaSualeba ganurCe-
velia da problemebis SemTxvevaSi,
isini daicaven maTac, vinc maT
gverdiT dgoma ar isurva.
rogorc „maestros“ damfuZne-
belma mamuka Rlontma „saerTo ga-
zeTTan“ saubrisas aRniSna, maTi
mizani ukanonobasTan brZolaa, am-
denad, isini nacionalur mediasa-
Sualebebsac daexmarebian.
„saakaSvilis xelisufleba iq-
neba Tu sxvisi, mniSvneloba ar
aqvs. Tu ukanonoba nacionaluri
arxebis winaaRmdegac iqneba mimar-
Tuli, amasac SevebrZolebiT. mniS-
vneloba ar aqvs, romel mediasa-
Sualebas emuqreba safrTxe“, _
aRniSna mamuka Rlontma da sxva
mediasaSualebebsac SesTavaza maT-
Tan gaerTianeba.
mediagaerTianebis dafuZnebaSi
monawileobdnen rogorc beWduri,
aseve eleqtronuli mediis warmo-
madgenlebi. maT Soris, telekompa-
nia „maestro“,„alia“, „asaval-da-
savali“, „kviris palitra“ „rezo-
nansi“, „presage.tv“, mediakavSiri
„obieqtivi“, radio „ucnobi“ da
sxva. mediagaerTianebis iniciato-
rebma saorganizacio komisiis wev-
rebic daasaxeles: jaba xubua (a-
saval-dasavali), rozi jRamaia
(presage.tv.), laSa tuRuSi (rezo-
nansi) xatia qvaTaZe (radio „maes-
tro”).
mediagaerTianebis dafuZneba
mas Semdeg gaxda aqtualuri, rac
Jurnalistebi xelisuflebisgan
konkretul problemebs waawydnen:
fotoreportiorebis dakavebaze
rom araferi vTqvaT, bolo dros
mediis mimarT wnexi sxvadasxva
formiT gamovlinda. kerZod, Tbi-
lisSi arsebul presaze speciali-
zebuli 140-150 jixuridan dReis-
Tvis ramdenimeRa iqneba darCenili
da maTac savaraudod wlis bo-
lomde aiReben. sxvaTaSoris, pre-
sis jixurebis aRebis „novacia“
qveynis sxva qalaqebsa da raioneb-
Sic igegmeba da am mxriv Tbilisi
gamonaklisi ar aris.
mamuka Rlontis TqmiT, media-
gaerTianebis mTavari amocana medi-
asaSualebebis ukanonobisa da xe-
lisuflebis zewolisgan dacva iq-
neba.
„es idea TiTqmis rva welia,
gamaCnia. mediasaSualebebs erTma-
neTTan komunikaciis problema
aRar eqnebaT da, roca erT rome-
lime maTganze zewola ganxorci-
eldeba, aRniSnuli organizaciis
saSualebiT saprotesto aqciebs
organizebuli xasiaTi miecema. am
gaerTianebis Seqmnis mTavari mize-
zi is aris, rom bolo dros me-
dia mudmivi Tavdacvis pirobebSi
imyofeba,“ _aRniSna mamuka Rlon-
tma.
misive TqmiT, xelisuflebis
mxridan zewola mxolod jixure-
bis aRebiT da „maestroze“ mitani-
li ieriSiT ar amoiwureba da xe-
lisuflebas kidev araerTi vera-
guli Canafiqri aqvs rezervSi.
amis dasadastureblad mamuka
Rlontma erosi kiwmariSvilis
„maestroSi“ Segzavna daasaxela.
„im formiT, ra formiTac is Se-
moZvra Robidan, aman mimaxvedra,
rom xelisufleba ukve Zalian
konkretul gegmebs debs“, _
gviTxra mamuka Rlontma.
„rezonansis“ redaqtori laSa
tuRuSi acxadebs, rom presis
dacvis erTaderTi meqanizmi medi-
is gaerTianeba da sxvadasxva for-
miT maTi aqtivobaa.
„pirvel rigSi, Cven unda da-
vicvaT Cveni uflebebi, unda da-
vicvaT Cveni kolegebis uflebebi.
Cven viciT, rom bevrad metia ise-
Ti mediasaSualeba, romelsac su-
rvili aqvs, am tipis gaerTianeba-
Si miiRos monawileoba. Cveni in-
teresia, maqsimalurad gavaerTia-
noT yvela jansaRi pozicia da az-
ri, yvela Jurnalisti, romelsac
marTla awuxebs saqarTveloSi si-
tyvis Tavisuflebis bedi. es Zali-
an principuli sakiTxia~, _ acxa-
debs laSa tuRuSi.
amasTan, laSa tuRuSi kanoniT
daSvebuli yvela SesaZlo aqtivo-
bebis gamoyenebas gvpirdeba, rome-
lic Sedegis momtani iqneba.
„Sedegia is, rom Cven unda
vizrunoT sityvis Tavisuflebaze,
rdgan am mxriv Zalian seriozuli
problemebia Cvens qveyanaSi“, _
aRniSnavs laSa tuRuSi.
„asaval-dasavalis“ Jurnalis-
ti jaba xubua miiCnevs, rom medi-
agaerTianebis Seqmnis saWiroeba
Tavisufali sityvis devnam moita-
na.
„ukve mimdinareobs gadamwyveti
Seteva Tavisufali sityvis wina-
aRmdeg. TbilisSi presis gavrce-
lebis yvela jixuri aRebulia.
amitom isRa dagvrCenia, am yvelaf-
ris winaaRmdeg gaverTiandeT da
solidaroba gamovucxadoT erTma-
neTs“.
mariam maWavariani
aamm mmeeqqaanniikkuurrmmaa qqmmeeddeebbaamm ddiiddii
ddaappiirriissppiirreebbaa ggaammooiiwwvviiaa.. mmaaggaallii-
TTaadd aaWWaarruull mmuussuullmmaannuurr TTeemmSSii
eerrTTmmaanneeTTss ddaauuppiirriissppiirrddnneenn yyooffii-
llii ddaa aaxxllaannddeellii mmuufftteebbii~~,, __
aaccxxaaddeebbss eeqqssppeerrttii kkaavvkkaassiiiiss ssaa-
kkiiTTxxeebbSSii mmaammuukkaa aarreeSSiiZZee..
gauzrebeli svla
dapirispirebis mizezi
saqarTvelos xelisuflebam
morigi daufiqrebeli nabiji ga-
dadga da maisSi mwvane Suqi aun-
To saqarTvelos musulmanTa su-
lieri sammarTvelos Seqmnas. es
xdeba maSin, rodesac baqoSi arse-
bobs da sul ufro Zlierdeba kav-
kasiel musulmanTa sabWo, aRniS-
nuli kavSiri jer kidev komunis-
tebis dros, avbediT 37 wels Se-
iqmna. mas Tavis droze sul sxva
misia ekisreboda. dRevandeli
mdgomareobiT, es organo, raRac
variantSi aerTianebs kidec kavka-
siel musulmanebs, misi lideri
Suqur faSa-zade didi gavleniT
sargeblobs baqos politikur
elitaSi.
areSiZis gadmocemiT, musul-
manTa sammarTvelos Seqmna Cvens
xelisuflebaSi myofi araprofesi-
onalebis dagegmilia. aman Sedegad
moitana dapirispirebebi musulma-
nur Temebs Soris, rac SesaZlebe-
lia sazogadoebis dapirispirebaSi
gadaizardos. axlad Seqmnil mu-
sulmanTa sammarTveloSi bevri sa-
ero piria, es SeiZleba saWiroc
iyos, acxadebs eqsperti kavkasiis
sakiTxebSi, magram morw-
muneTa survili ar gauT-
valiswinebiaT, radganac
sammarTvelos Semadgen-
lobaSi mrevlisaTvis bev-
ri ucnobi an naklebi av-
toritetis mqone piria
Seyvanili.
areSiZis naTqvamiT ir-
kveva, rom azerbaijanul
TemSi didi nawili wina-
aRmdegia axali sammarTve-
losi. morwmuneebs jerac
ver gaurkveviaT Siituria
Tu sunituri es organi-
zacia. amis mizezad eqs-
perts naklebi propaganduli mu-
Saoba miaCnia. areSiZis informaci-
iT saqarTvelos azerbaijanelebiT
dasaxlebul soflebSi adgilob-
rivi Cinovnikebi aiZuleben mosax-
leobas daeqvemdebaron axlad Seq-
mnil sammarTvelos.
momxdariT ukmayofiloa baqoc.
kavkasiel musulmanTa sabWoSi am-
boben, rom maTi organizacia didi
xnis Seqmnilia da srulad moi-
cavs kavkasiis morwmune musulma-
nebs, saqaTveloSi Seqmnili mu-
sulmanTa sammarTvelo mxolod
adgilobriv islamistebs moicavs
da emuqreba baqos, maTze kontro-
lis dakargviT. amis garda musul-
manTa sabWos meCeTebisa da qonebis
dakargviTacaa (SesaZlo) SeSfoTe-
buli. iq acxadeben, rom saqarTve-
los musulmanTa sammarTvelos
mmarTvel rgolSi arc erTi azer-
baijaneli ar aris. vinc arian me-
orexarisxovan rolebs asruleben
da amasTanave ar warmoadgenen mo-
rwmuneTaTvis avtoritetebs.
cnobisaTvis: Cvens qveyanaSi
marTlmadidebeli qristianebis
Semdeg musulmanebi modian _ mo-
saxleobis 9,9 procenti, (daax-
loebiT 400 aTasamde adamiani).
maTi umetesoba azerbaijanelia.
arian aWarlebi, Turqi-mesxebic,
kavkasiis musulmanTa sabWos ofi-
si TbilisSic aqvs. deda-
qalaqSi aqvs gaxsnili
centraluri Stab-bina sa-
qarTvelos musulmanTa
sammarTvelosac. orive re-
ligiuri organizaciis mi-
zani identuria _ musul-
manTa interesebis dacva.
mxolod saqarTveloSi
moRvawe musulmanTa orga-
nizaciis sasuliero li-
derebi arian Siituri is-
lamis warmomadgeneli Se-
ixi vagif akapilovi, suni-
turi islamis lideri
mufti jemal paqsaZe da
Tbilisis meCeTis imami iasn alie-
vi.
`somxuri proeqti~
`somxur proeqtad~ moixseni-
ebs sammarTvelos Seqmnas kavkasi-
el musulmanTa sabWos xelmZRva-
neli ali Suqur faSa-zade. igi am
nabijs politikurad miiCnevs da
Tvlis, rom sammarTvelo saqarT-
velos xelisuflebis organoa. mi-
si Seqmnis mizania akontrolos
saqarTveloSi macxovrebeli mu-
sulmanebi. ra saWiroa es-kiTxu-
lobs pirovneba, romelsac saqar-
TveloSi macxovrebel morwmune
azerbaijanelTa umravlesoba Ta-
vis sulier liderad Tvlis, fa-
Sa-zade sammarTvelos saqarTve-
los xelisuflebisaTvis SeTava-
zebul `somxur proeqts~ uwo-
debs: igi winaswarmetyvelebs, rom
qarTuli mxaris gadadgmuli nabi-
ji cud Sedegebs moitans. musul-
manTa lideri mosalodnel Sede-
gebze mTel pasuxismgeblobas sa-
qarTvelos xelisuflebas akis-
rebs.
Tbiliseli Teologi, erovne-
biT azerbaijaneli ramazan jafa-
rovi gvixsnis, rom arsebobs ule-
mebis, yuranis mcodne adamianebis
(sasuliero pirebi, molebi) prin-
cipi, romlis mixedviTac saqarT-
velos mTel morwmune musulmanTa
sammarTvelo xalxis meSveobiT
unda Camoyalibebuliyo. da ara is,
rac miviReT, ZaldatanebiT Seqmni-
li organizacia, romelic qmnis
did albaTobas musulmanur Temebs
Soris dapirispirebas: _ gveubneba
Cveni azerbaijaneli respondenti.
qarTveli politologebi iT-
valiswineben ra kavkasiel musul-
manTa did gavlenas alievis karze,
SiSs gamoTqvamen imis gamo, rom
momxdarma SeiZleba daZabos saqar-
Tvelo-azerbaijanis bolo dros
isedac garTulebuli urTierTo-
bebi.
zaza bilixoZe
mediagaerTianeba reJimis winaaRmdeg
azerbaijaneli musulmanebi siaxleSi `somxur proeqts~ xedaven
17saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
arsaidan aRmocenebuli axa-
li saxeebis qarTul politika-
Si Semosvla “vardebis revolu-
ciis” tradicia da gamocdile-
baa. ase daimkvidres adgili qa-
rTul politikaSic da `pirve-
lad saqarTvelos istoriaSi”
Tbilisis quCebSi “kmaras” jRab-
niTa da yviriliT “TavgamoCe-
nilma” da revoluciuri tele-
viziebiT gacnobadebulma saxeeb-
ma. Mmudmivi da amaradiulic am-
qveynad uflis garda araferia.
`nacionalurma ideologiam”,
(maT da samwuxarod), romelmac
saqarTvelos ganadgurebis dava-
leba met-nalebad Seasrula, sa-
xelmwifos marTvis berketebs
unda Camoscildnes. Tumca, ro-
gorc Tavad gvimesijeben _ gasa-
keTebeli, anu gasanadgurebeli
saqarTveloSi jer kidev bevri
darCeniaT. amisTvis ki axali sa-
xeebis aRmocenebaa saWiro. swo-
red amisTvis, rogorc Tavis
droze `kmarasa” da `Tavisufle-
bis institutis saxeebi” aRmo-
cendnen da Cainergnen qarTul
politikaSi, ase sokoebiviT, er-
Timeoris miyolebiT daiwyes aR-
moceneba “evropuli koaliciis”
axalma saxeebmac. dasamali aRa-
ravisTvisa, rom es kolacia Se-
saZloa politikur subieqtad
Camoyalibdes momavali arCevne-
bisTvis, romelsac aw. Ukve opi-
oziciaSi gadabargebuli boke-
ria-benduqiZis tandems Caudgeba
saTaveSi. marTalia, maT “gasake-
TilSobileblad” SigadaSig gia
nodias msgavs “marilsac” gaure-
ven xolme. emandMis “liberalu-
ri faseulobebi” aravis daaviwy-
des, romlis danergvac nodiam,
ladariam, WiaberaSvilma, levan
ramiSvilma da giga bokeriam da
`axali qarTvelis SeqmniT” mra-
valaTasiani grantebiT dafinan-
sebulma saxeebma jer kidev
“vardebis revoluciamde” wamo-
iwyes da jerjerobiT araferi
gamouvidaT. `nacionalurma ide-
ologiamac”, leninis msgavsad,
Tavisi saqmis gamgrZelebeli un-
da datovos, romlebic “Tavi-
suflebis institutis” msgavsad
momavalSi saxelmwifo, marTvis
saqmeebSi aqtiurad Caerevian.
sxvagvarad, qarTvelebs saqarT-
veloSi “marTla Tavisuflad da
damoukideblad” cxovrebis uf-
lebas vin mogvcems?!
am “enjeoSnikebis” ideolo-
giuri miniSvneloba imdenad di-
dia, rom isini amaJamindel saar-
Cevno kanonze momuSave komisia-
Sic arian warmodgenilni da Ta-
nac opoziciis saxiT. aseTia `ek-
onomikis eqspertad” cnobili,
swored arasaidan aRmocenebuli
mixeil TavxeliZe. masac, iseve
rogorc dRes “profesorad qce-
ul” Tea TuTberiZes apiarebde-
nen yvela televiziebiT, axali
tenologiebis Sesabamisad “ga-
sacnobadeblad”, dRes Tavxeli-
Zis kompetentur azrebs gvasme-
nineben. es TavxeliZe ki, megob-
rebo, Tavis Tavs Turme “naen-
dertalels” uwodebs. im gage-
biT, rom yvelanairi Tavisufle-
ba, rac pirvelyofili adamianis-
Tvis iyo miRebuli misTvisac mi-
saRebi da bunebrivi yofila. sa-
zogadoebisTvis neandertalele-
bi 1856 wels germaniis “nean-
dertalis dablobSi” aRmoCeni-
li pirvelyofili adamianis na-
marxebiT aris cnobili da “evo-
luciis jaWvSi”, pirvelyofili
adamianis Semdeg piTekantropsa
da Tanamedrove adamians Soris
adgils ikavebs. Sesabamisad, ase-
Ti “neandertalelebisTvis” pir-
velyofili adamianis jogurad
cxovrebis, joguri seqsualuri
urTierTobebisa da “joguri fa-
seulobebis” principebic misaRe-
bi da mosawonia. TavxeliZis
“Tavgadakluli neandertalelo-
bac” amis dasaturi unda iyos.
“neandertalelebis” warmo-
madgenelebisTvis da `brZeni da
gawonasworebuli” TavxeliZisT-
visac cnobili unda iyos isic,
rom Tanamedrove evropa, Tavisi
ganviTarebis doniTa da rogorc
“naendertalelebs” uyvarT evo-
luciiT, karga xania daSorda
pirvelyofili adamianis cxov-
rebis wess. Tu rasakvirvelia,
21-e saukuneSi dasavleTidan
mZlavrad SemoWril im `seqsua-
luri Tavisuflebis talRas”
ar miviRebT mxedvelobaSi. rome-
lic, rogorc `neandertalel
TavxeliZes” Tu davemowmebiT,
yvelafris TavisuflebasTan er-
Tad, (maT Soris narkotikebis)
albaT, sxeulis siSiSvlis de-
monstrirebasac unda gulisx-
mobdes, radgan misi gagebiT, Ta-
visufleba yvelafris Tavisuf-
lebas gulisxmobs. swored ase
ganmimarta erTxel “Tavisufle-
bis mcneba” laSa buRaZemac. mar-
Talia, pirvelyofili da “nean-
dertaleli” adamianis am siSiS-
vles maSin tansacmlis arqona
ganapirobebda da “liberali ne-
andertalelebisgan” gansxvave-
biT da “darvinis Teoriis sawi-
naaRmdegod”, qarTuli sazoga-
doebis didi nawili Tavs maimu-
nis STamomavlebad ar miiCnevs,
magram aseTi “neandertalale-
bis” gapiareba dRes mainc didi
masStabebiT xorcieldeba. “Tav-
xileZisTana neandertalelebis-
Tvis” amas e.w. “liberaluri Ri-
rebulebebis” tiraJirebiT, moma-
valSi “gei da lesbo aRlume-
bis” mxardaWera da am mxaradWe-
ris gamo didi grantebis miReba
gansazRvravs. mokled, principe-
bidan da Rirebulelebidan ga-
momdinare, unda vigulisxmod,
rom “evropuli koalicia, Tu
niandertalelta sakrebulo”,
“Tavisuflebis institutis” sa-
xecvlil transformacias unda
warmoadgendes. ramdenadac `jo-
joxeTis maSxalebis” am insti-
tutma mis damfinansebel so-
ross ver gaumarTla. aseTi “nen-
dertalelebi” saarCevno kanonze
momuSave komisiaSi mainc sxedan
da “qristian-demokratebis”, `Ce-
mTviTon miSas magieris”, “axle-
bis”, `edepes” viTom opozicias-
Tan erTad, qarTveli xalxis ar-
Cevnebis bedis ganmsazRvrav sa-
kiTxebze muSaoben. Sesaba-
misad rogori iqneba am ko-
misiis muSaobis Sedegebi,
romelis Sesaxebac `kub-
laSvilis kibinets” miRma
jer qaristian-demokratebi
da Semdeg miSa da vano iba-
reben “atCotebs” _ gasage-
bi unda iyos. aseT “nean-
dertalelebis ajafsan-
dalSi”, momaval arCeveneb-
Sic “gasapatiosneblad”
aucileblad Seureven nasa-
riZeebis, “mrCevel-kompe-
tentorebis” da nodiebis-
nair “damsaxurebul pad-
lizebs”. miT ufro axla,
rodesac aSS-s kongresma
saqarTvelosTan mWidro
samxedro urTerTobebis
damyarebis Sesaxeb doku-
ments uyara kenWi da rac
arsSi TbilisisTvis ameri-
kuli SeiaraRebis miyidvas
iTvaliswinebs. am dokumentsac
prezidentma barak obamam unda
moaweros xeli. 1244-e muxlSi
aRniSnulia, rom dokumentze
xelmoweridan araugvianes 90
dRisa, “prezidentma unda Seimu-
Saos da kongress warudginos
aSS-ssa da saqarTvelos Soris
samxedro TanamSromlobis nor-
malizaciis gegema TavdacviTi
SeiarRebis miyidvis CaTvliT”.
am proeqtis iniaciatoric Tur-
me feradi revoluciebis dafi-
nansebis fondis Tav-re da naci-
onalebis didi megobari _ mak
keini gaxldaT. aSS-s gegmaSi fi-
gurirebs `saqarTvelos mTavro-
bis daxmareba sakuTari xalxisa
da suverenuli teritoriebis
dacvis uzrunvelyofaSi saqarT-
velos mTavrobis mier Zalis ga-
mouyeneblobis Sesaxeb aRebuli
valdebulebebisa da gaeros wes-
debis 51-e muxlebis gaTvaliswi-
nebiT, aSS-s mier
samxedro teqnikisa
da qonebis gayidva
da samxedro momsa-
xureba TavdacviTi
uzrunvelyofis mi-
marTulebiT saqarT-
velos xelisufle-
bis Zalisxmevis mxa-
radsaWerad”. “suve-
renuli teritorie-
bis dacvis uzrun-
velyofaSi”, albaT,
savaraudo saomari
moqmedebis SemTxve-
vaSi, albaT isev ro-
melime regionis
daTmobisas, isev
“r ez er v i st e b i s ”
upatronod mitoveba,
saakaSvilis miwaze forTxva da
axali regionis Cabareba unda
vigulisxmoT.
imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom
“saqarTvelos xelisuflebis Za-
lisxmevas” qarTvelis xalxisT-
vis sulis amoxda, darbeva da
xelebSekruli momitingeebis
xocvasTan erTad, arCevnebis
mudmivi gayalbeba gulisxmobs,
amasTan Zalis gamoyenebis yove-
li SemTxveva amerikis elCebis
mier, yovelTvis “demokratiuli
reformebis” WrilSi ganixileba
da metic, Tavad elCebi iZlevi-
an uiaraRo momitingeebis darbe-
vis “mesijebs”, gasagebi unda
iyos, amerikuli SeiaraRebis
TbilisisTvis miyidva rasac un-
da gulisxmobdes. ramdenadac
suverenuli teritoriebis dab-
runebisa da Tundac ruseTTan
omis SesaZlebloba saqarTvelos
arc gaaCnia da CvenisTana qveyana
oms verc erT did saxelmwifos-
Tan ver awarmoebs. an meore,
ramdenadac aRniSnuli gegma “sa-
qarTvelos TavdacviTi moTxov-
nebis Sefasebasa da bolo ori
wlis ganmavlobaSi samxedro
teqnikisa da qonebis SeZenisa da
samxedro momsaxurebis Sesaxeb
saqarTvelos mTavrobis gancxa-
debis CamonaTvals Seicavs”. ga-
moricxuli araa, iranze amerika-
israelis SesaZlo Tavdasxmis
SemTxvevaSi, xsenebuli Seiara-
Reba `cocxal buferad qceuli
saqarTvelos gasaZliereblad”
iqnas gamoyenebuli, ra drosac
iranTan mezoblad myofi armeni-
isTvis “didi armeniis” aRdgenis
mizniT, axla javaxeTis miwebis
gadacema igulisxmebodes. miT
ufro maSin, rodesac Tbilisi-
dan parlamentis qauTaisSi gada-
taniT, nacionalebis varaudiT,
Tbiliselebisgan ukve gamoTavi-
suflebuli eqnebaT, magram saa-
kaSvilis sityvebiT Tu vityviT,
“nuras ukacravad da ver mogar-
TviT”. TbilisSi kidev bevri
“araparlamentari Tbiliseli”
vrCebiT imisTvis, rom Cveni qa-
laqi aravis davuTmoTYda laRi-
Zis “YTbilisos” nacvlad, “ax
sirum, isrum” ar vamReroT vin-
mes. aseTi “brwinvale perspeqti-
vis” pirobebSi Tu SeiaraRebis
gadmocemas saomari moqmedebebis
miznebi gaaCnia, radgan sxva Sem-
TxvevaSi miSa `pagrimuSkad” xom
ar ixmars amerikul SeiaraRe-
bas? an omi unda daviwyoT da
Cven SevakvdeT, miSa ki gaiqces,
an savaraudod, wagebuli arCeve-
nebis pirobebSi, aSS qarTvele-
bis dasaxocad aZlevs “Tavis Se-
umdgar proeqts”- naciona-
lebs iaraRs. albaT maTi
varaudiT, xocva-Jletas
gadarCenil qarTvelobas
saomari moqmedebebis dros
“bunkerebSi” gadamaluli
“neandertaleli ekonomis-
tebi” da liberalebic up-
roblemod mougeben nebis-
mier arCevnebsac da “adami-
anis uflebaTa dacvis miz-
niT” Catarebul seqsualu-
ri umciresobebis aRlume-
bis gamarTvasac uproble-
mod moaxerxeben. gogoriS-
vil-maWavarianis mier Semu-
Savebuli axali saarCevno
kodeqsi da qarTuli opo-
ziciuri sazogadoebis
sruli dumili, sxvaze ara-
ferze miuTiTebs. viTom
opoziciac “liberaluri
Rirebulebebisa” da dasav-
leTis mxardaWeris mopove-
bis gamo “aseT Tavisuflebasa”
da saarCevno kanonsac aucileb-
lad dauWers mxars.
ase, rom, Cemo Zvirfaso qar-
Tvelebo, lazres enisa da uf-
lis kvarTis patrono xalxno,
didi civilizaciis, `SuSanikis
wamebis” `vefxistyaosnis”, Cak-
rulosa da `Sen xar venaxos”
ero! “mesrof maStrocis mier
Seqmnili sami qarTuli anbanis”
mqone qarTvelo xalxo, qar-
Tul politikaSi `neandrtale-
lebi” gegmaven mosvlas da
`vefxis tyavis” nacvlad mom-
ravlebuli turebis tyavi an
`leRvis foTlebi” mainc moima-
rageT, radgan iqeT ucxotome-
lebisTvis gamzadebuli “lazi-
kidan” daZrul liberalebs da
aqeT TbilisSi darCenil ;nean-
dertalelebs” verafris dide-
biT avuxsniT, rom siSiSvle
sircxvilia da civilizebulma
samyarom, maT Soris evropamac
Tavis droze “leRvis foTol-
sa” da tyapuWs tansacmeli
amisTvis amjobinda.
keso mesxeli
gixaroden, qarTul politikaSineandertalelebi modian!..
ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~
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18 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
irakli alasania:
koba daviTaSvilis da zviad Zi-
Ziguris ivaniSvilis gundSi pirov-
nuli monawileobis Sesaxeb gadawy-
vetileba erToblivad iqna miRebu-
li. radgan yovelTvis vambobdiT,
rom Cveni kari Riaa da Cven unda
viTanamSromloT sxvadasxva Zaleb-
Tan, maT Soris aris zviadi da ko-
ba. sami politikuri Zala: respub-
likelebi, Tavisufali demokratebi
da biZina ivaniSvilis partia, ro-
melic Camoyalibebis procesSia,
SeTanxmebuli varT partniorobaze
da vfiqrobT, rom winasaarCevnod
(imedi gvaqvs rom mivalT iqamde),
CamovayalibebT bloks da koalici-
as. da ra Tqma unda, Cven urTier-
Toba gveqneba sxvadasxva politi-
kur ZalebTan.
eqvsianis formatSi Cven
vTqviT, rom daviwyebT saarCevno
garemos gaumjobesebas da erTob-
liv brZolas, me daviwye es brZo-
la; 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi moviare
200-mde sofeli da kargad avuxse-
ni sazogadoebas, Tu rogori mobi-
lizebaa saWiro Semdegi saarCevno
ciklisTvis, Semdegi saparlamento
arCevnebisTvis. me mgoni, dameTanx-
mebiT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-
Cenam marTlac teqtonuri cvlile-
bebi gamoiwvia qarTul politikaSi.
garda imisa, rom gamoiwvia saxeli-
suflebo agresia da eqs-
tremizmi xelisuflebis
mxridan, maT CaTvales,
rom es didi safrTxea
da axali politikuri
Zala, romelic ikveTeba
maTTvis marTlac aris
sapirwone. amitom darw-
munebuli var, rom Sem-
degi saparlamento ar-
Cevnebi iqneba konkuren-
tuli, rac Zalian jansa-
Ri iqneba qarTuli de-
mokratiisTvis, misi gan-
mtkicebisTvis. Cven vTa-
vazobT sazogadoebas,
pirvel rigSi, imas Tu
rogor movereviT umu-
Sevrobas da am mxriv
CemTvis Zalian Rirebulia biZina
ivaniSvilis gamocdileba, mas 100
000-mde samuSao adgili aqvs Tavis
karieris ganmavlobaSi Seqmnili,
piradi SesaZleblobidan gamomdina-
re mas didi zrunva hqonda qarTu-
li inteleqtis, qarTuli kultu-
ris gadarCenaze, aseve Zalian di-
di wvlili aqvs Setanili Cveni
qveynis Tavdacvisunarianobis, Sina-
gan saqmeTa organoebis gamyarebaSi;
aqedan gamomdinare, Cveni partnio-
ri aris aseTi Rirsebebis matarebe-
li, garda imisa, rom is aris da-
savleTze orientirebuli da amas
minda xazi gavusva da wetili da-
vusva im sicruis nakads, romelic
modis imedidan da rusTavi2-dan,
rom TiTqos Cven SevicvaleT Cveni
sagareo politikuri xedva; baton-
ma biZinam CemTan Sexvedrisas Tqva,
rom swored imitom unda CemTan
partnioroba, rom iziarebs Tavisu-
fali demokratebis pozicias, sqar-
Tvelo unda gaxdes evroatlanti-
kuri sivrcis, evropuli ojaxis
nawili da es Cveni gadawyvetileba
uryevia. me minda es kidev erTxel
gavimeoro, radgan rusTavi2 da ime-
di, prezident saakaSvilis dava-
lebiT, urcxvad ambobs, rom viTom
Cven vuRalateT evroatlantikur
miswrafebebs.
rac Seexeba fulis Cadebas, me
ar gamigia arcerTi centi, rome-
lic ase guluxvad da yovelgvari
politikuri ambiciebis gareSe gae-
Ros Tundac oligarqs, romelic
dRes saqarTvelos ekonomikaSi ga-
dawyvetilebebs iRebs, baton ben-
duqiZes, baton nayofias. isini biz-
nesiT arian dakavebulebi. xolo
biZina ivaniSvilma sakuTari fuli,
daaxloebiT miliard naxevari,
swored saqarTvelos in-
teresebs moaxmara. ben-
duqiZem Tu instituti
Seqmna, egec biznesia,
is studentebisgan
fuls iRebs. ase rom
biZina ivaniSvilis pat-
riotizmSi, mis swor
xedvebSi qveyanasTan mi-
marTebaSi me eWvi ar me-
pareba; rac mTavaria, Cven
saerTo vipoveT soflis
meurneobis ganviTarebis
sakiTxSi. yvela vinc ki Sem-
xvedria im 200 sofelSi,
sadac viyavi bolo Tveebis gan-
mavlobaSi, sami saqarTvelos moqa-
laqedan ori aris umuSevari. imi-
tom rom soflis meurneoba saakaS-
vilis xelisuflebam mTlianad da-
iviwya. Cven gvaqvs swori xedva,
rogor davayenebT fexze saqarTve-
los soflis meurneobas, rogor
davexmarebiT mcire da saSualo
bizness da lomis wili samuSao
adgilebis SeqmnaSi modis mcire da
saSualo biznesze, romelic unda
ganviTardes. realurad CvenTan mo-
nopoliebi marTaven biznesebs da
amitomac ar viTardeba mcire da
saSualo biznesi.
rac Seexeba yofil eqvsians, eq-
vsiani iyo bunebrivia inerciiT
Sqmnili politikuri erToba, rvi-
anis moRvaweobis Semdeg, rodesac
Cven daaxloebiT 8 Tvis ganmavlo-
baSi gvqonda molaparakebebi xeli-
siuflebasTan da xelisuflebam mi-
atova es molaparakebebi. samwuxa-
rod, rvianidan orma politikurma
Zalam yvelaze kritikul momentSi,
rodesac realurad ramdenime kvi-
raSi SesaZlebeli iyo daeTmo xe-
lisuflebas saarCevno garemosTan
dakavSirebuli fundamentaluri sa-
kiTxebi, maT samwuxarod, mxari da-
uWires SemoTavazebas, romelic mo-
vida nacionaluri moZraobidan.
radgan mciredi CemTvis damakmayo-
filebeli ar aris, imitom rom Se-
saZlebloba da Sansi iyo, wamogve-
Ro ufro meti daTmoba, rac rea-
lurad konkurentuls gaxdida Sem-
deg arCevnebs, magram daeTanxmnen
nacionalur moZraobas. esaa Cemi
gulistkivili imis mimarT rac
moxda rvianTan dakavSirebiT. Sem-
deg eqvsianma gadavwyviteT, rom
amiTi ar unda gavCerebuliyaviT da
me vTxove Cems partniorebs, erTad
dagvewyo regionebSi siaruli. ro-
desac daviwyeT regionebSi siaru-
li, samwuxarod, ise moxda, rom
ver amyva garkveuli Cveni politi-
ku-
ri partniorebi im saqmianobaSi,
rac me regionebSi mindoda gameSa-
la; amitom vTqviT, rom, rodesac
Camoyalibdeba danarCeni politiku-
ri Zalebi, mzada varT gavagrZeloT
es saqmianoba erTad, da am dros
gamoCnda biZina ivaniSvili. da mii-
Ro gadawyvetileba, me vityodi,
gmiruli gadawyvetileba, radgan
yvelam kargad icis, rom biznesmeni
yovelTvis cdilobs, normalur
urTierTobaSi iyos xelisuflebas-
Tan; man es nabiji gadadga, radgan
marTlac sjera, rom Semdegi sapar-
lamento arCevnebi aris marTlac
gadamwyveti Cveni qveynisTvis. rad-
gan es unda iyos konkurentunaria-
ni arCevnebi da rac mTavaria, Sem-
degi parlamenti aRar unda iyos
erTpartiuli parlamenti; Semdegi
prezidenti aRar unda iRebdes ga-
dawyetilebas erTpirovnulad; es
aris ZiriTadi rac me davinaxe mas-
Si, ra motivaciaca aqvs, rom rea-
lurad dadges politikur Zaleb-
Tan erTad. da me darwmunebuli
var, rom Cven sazogadoebis
Zalian didi nawilis mxar-
daWeras miviRebT da Semde-
gi parlamnenti marTlac
mravalpartiuli iqneba.
rac Seexeba zviad ZiZi-
guris Zvel gancxadebas,
rom me daSlis niWi ufro
maqvs, vidre gaerTianebis.
mas SeiZleba pirovnulad
egeTi ganwyoba maSin hqono-
da, magram ar meguleba sa-
qarTveloSi arc erTi po-
litikuri Zala, politiku-
ri lideri, rom Tavidanve
yvelaferze SeTanxmebuliyv-
nen da saerTo azri hqondeT
politikuri cxovrebis gan-
viTarebis dinamikaze; poli-
tika, xSirad vambob, jazs
hgavs, es aris marTlac mud-
mivi imrovizacia. rodesac
fundamentalur sakiTxebze
gaqvT saerTo xedva, eseTi
improvizaciebi aravis ar
unda gaukvirdes. gaixseneT
nacionaluri moZraoba, ra-
tom datova igi Tavdacvis
ministrma, parlamentis Tav-
mjdomarem, ratom wvida 6
elCi, es yvelaferi aris im-
provizacia. Cven gvaqvs saer-
To - Cveni qveyana, gvinda rom re-
alurad demokratiul qveynad viq-
ceT, es aris Sansi, romelic Cven
axla mogveca; bevrad ufro aamaR-
la es Sansi biZina ivaniSvilis ga-
moCenam politikaSi da amitom da-
velodoT, rogori konkurentiani
arCevnebi iqneba momavalSi. mas aqvs
Zalian didi gamocdileba samuSao
adgilebis Seqmnis, romlis msgav-
sic arc erT politikur ZalaSi
ar arsebobs. es aris Cveni qveynis-
Tvis Zalian Rirebuli dRes; man
zustad icis, rogor unda davud-
geT gevrdiT mcire da saSualo
bizness, rogor unda Seiqmnas samu-
Sao adgilebi da ganvaviTaroT
soflis meurneoba. es is sakiTxe-
bia, romlic damerwmuneT yvelas,
TiToeul moqalaqes awuxebs dRes.
da damerwmuneT, aravis awuxebs,
ra Tqva guSinwin zviad ZiZigurma.
dro gviCvenebda gaverTiandebo-
diT Tu ara Cven respublikeleb-
Tan, ZiZigurTan da daviTaSvilTan,
vTqvaT, rom ara biZina ivaniSvili.
rodesac midixar arCevnebze, yo-
velTvis midrekili xar, rac
SeiZleba solidurad
gaxvide.
rac Seexeba kva-
racxelias, lorTqi-
faniZis, TevzaZis ga-
moCenas „qarTuli
ocnebis“ prezentacia-
ze, pirveli rac minda
vTqva, rom araviTari Ta-
namoazreebs maTSi ar vxe-
davT, magram Cven ar vyofT
sazogadoebas Cvenianebad da
sxvisianebad. maT gauCndaT
survili da movidnen, ra
dagvesaja ratom moxvediT-
Tqo?! ras iTxovT, rom devo-
lizeba daviwyoT moqalaqeebis?!
viRacam gaugzavna mosawvevebi da ra
vqnaT, gamgzavni davsajoT?! da ki-
dev, Tqven iq ver dainaxeT sxva
Rirseuli moqalaqeebi, romlebic
dResac aqtiurad arian CarTulni
politikaSi da sazogadoebaSi?! ra-
tom ar gaamaxvileT yuradReba maT-
ze, ratom ar gaamaxvileT yuradRe-
ba, ra kargi gamosvla hqonda
vTqvaT, rati amaRlobels, an sxva
gamomsvelelbs?! ase rom es yvela-
feri aris Zalian Casafrebuli po-
ziciidan dasmuli kiTxvebi. Tumca
gpasuxobT, am adamianebTan saerTo
ara gvaqvs politikurad, maT hqon-
daT mosvlis survili, viRacam da-
patiJa da movidnen, politikurad
maTTan TanamSromlobas Cven ar va-
pirebT da aq daisvas wertili.
imis gamo rom daviTaSvili iyo
noRaidelTan, amis gamo ra vinmem
unda aukrZalos mas politikaSi
yofna?! urTierToba gvqonda yvela
politikur ZalasTan, urTierToba
mqonia nacionalur moZraobasTan,
romlis damarcxebasac vapirebT sa-
parlamanto arCevnebSi. es aris
normaluri, samoqalaqo sazogadoe-
bis Sesabamiri urTierToba. Cven ra
erTmaneTs xeli ar unda CamovarT-
vaT da gamarjoba ar vuTxraT?! aq
koaliciaze ar aris saubari, Sev-
TanxmdiT, rom isini individualu-
rad iTanamSromleben. baton ZiZi-
gurs aqvs Zalian didi gamocdile-
ba, rogorc erovnul moZraobaSi,
ase Semdeg politikaSi yofniT, mas
aqvs struqturebi, adgilebi komi-
siebSi, rac CevnTvis Zalian Rire-
bulia, amitom am sakiTxebze gvaqvs
dialogi da TanamSromloba. poli-
tikaSic aris pragmatizmi, bunebri-
via!
rac Seexeba Cems naTqvams, rom
natoSi gawevrianeba aris ganuxor-
cielebeli amocana, aq amogleji-
lia erTi fraza, me davayole, sa-
akaSvilis mmarTvelobis pirobeb-
Si-Tqo. ase rom CaxedeT intervi-
us; me Zalian kargad maxsovs, zus-
tad 2008 wels saprezidento ar-
Cevnebze, batoni saakaSvili rogor
dapirda devnilebs, rom Semdeg
zamTars isini gaatarebdnen Tbil
adgilebSi, sakuTar saxlSi. gi-
kiTxavT prezidentisTvis, ratom
ar ganxorcielda es?! mgoni droa
daisvas es kiTxva, didi dro gavi-
da ukve! saakaSvili sul ramdenime
weliwadSi datovebs Tanamdebobas,
am mokle vadaSi natoSi Sesvla ga-
nuxorcielebeli ocnebaa; me ar
minda molodini aumaRldes sazo-
gadoebas, rogorc aumaRla saakaS-
vilma buqarestis samitis win, mag-
ram natoSi saqarTvelo aucileb-
lad gawevriandeba. es aris Cveni
mtkice gadawyvetileba, saqarTve-
los gadawyvetileba. natoSi, ev-
rokavSirSi saqarTvelo gawevrian-
deba, magram araviTar SemTxvevaSi
es ori sakiTxi ar unda mivabaT
teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdge-
nas. Tumca, ra Tqma unda, teri-
toriuli mTlianobis aRdgenisken
gadadgmuli nabijebi, molaparake-
bis dawyeba afxazebTan, osebTan,
bevrad daaCqarebs am process. ama-
zea aq saubari. me minda gulwrfe-
li dialogi daiwyos afxazebTan,
maT unda igrZnon, rom natosken,
evrokavSirisken mimavali saqarTve-
lo, ekonomiurad Zlieri saqarTve-
lo bevrad ufro momgebiania, vid-
re darCnen samxedro okupaciis
qveS. me ver movatyueb Cems qveya-
nas, rogorc atyuebda saakaSvili
natoSi gawevrianebaze, man unda
icodes, rom saakaSvilis pirobeb-
Si es aris ganuxorcielebeli oc-
neba. es aris Cemi pozocia da mgo-
ni cota gamocdileba maqvs saga-
reo politikaSi. hkiTxeT nebismi-
er natos warmomadgenels, Tu sa-
qarTvelos aqvs Sansi saakaSvilis
pirobebSi, anu ori wlis ganmav-
lobaSi, natoSi gawevrianebis. yve-
la getyviT, rom Tqven
gaqvT Sansi dauaxlovdeT
demokratiuli arCevnebiT,
magram gawevrianebis proce-
si ar Caeteva or weliwad-
Si. me kidev erTxel minda
vuTxra Cvens moqalaqeebs,
saqarTvelos natoSi gawev-
riandebis gadawyvetilebaSi
ver Caereva ruseTi, verc
afxazeTisa da oseTis prob-
lemebi ver imoqmedebs mas-
ze. es aris Cveni sagareo
politikis mizani, magram
rogorc ki Cven swrafad
daviwyebT problemebis mog-
varebas da ndobis aRdgenas
afxazebTan da osebTan, es
procesi aTmagad daCqardeba.
saakaSvils saerTod Tavi
davaneboT, saakaSvilebi mo-
dian da midian, aseve alasa-
niebi, prioriteti ki rCeba,
es aris Cveni erovnuli
Tanxmoba, rom unda gavwev-
riandeT evrokavSirSi da
natoSi. magram am miznis
miRwevis gzebi me da saakaS-
vils gvaqvs absoluturad
gansxvavebuli; sakaSvilma
xelidan gauSva mapis miRe-
bis Sansi buqarestSi, imi-
tom rom 5 miliardis gadaxda da
samxedro ritorikis amaRleba da-
iwyo buqarestis samitamde. amis
gakeTeba SeiZleboda sxva pirobeb-
Si da amas eubneboda aSS-s prezi-
denti, amas eubneboda raisi, amas
eubnebodnen germanelebi da fran-
gebi. da meore, man aseve ver aari-
da qveyanas safrTxe; misi, rogorc
politikuri lideris funqciaa
ara marto omSi waiyvanos qveyana,
roca saWiroa da uxelmZRvanelos
SeiaraRebul Zalebs, aramed goniv-
rulad aaridos ruseTis es safr-
Txe qveyanas, romelic iyo da dRe-
sac aris. man verc erTi ver SeZ-
lo, ver gaamTliana qveyana, ro-
gorc hpirdeboda saqarTvelos mo-
qalaqeebs da amitomac daskvna
aris Zalian martivi, is saqarTve-
los natoSi ver Seiyvans.
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Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto
darbazis ganviTarebis fondi
2010 wlis saqmianobis programuli
da finansuri angariSi
“Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis ganviTarebis fondi”
registrirebulia q. Tbilisis sagadasaxado inspeqciis mier 2006 wlis
18 seqtembers, s/k 204517086. fondis adgilsamyofelia: q. Tbilisi,
meliqiSvilis q.#1. 2008 wlis “22” “oqtombers” fonds mieniWa
saqvelmoqmedo organizaciis statusi.
fondi warmoadgens wevrobaze dafuZnebul saqarTvelos samoqalaqo
kodeqsiT gansazRvrul kerZo samarTlis arasamewarmeo (arakomerciul)
iuridiul pirs.
fondis ZiriTadi mizania “Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto dar-
bazis”, rogorc Zeglis gadarCenaSi, ganviTarebasa da evropul
standartebTan gaTanabrebaSi xelSewyoba; sakoncerto darbazis
Tanamedrove xmovan-gasanaTebeli mowyobilobiTa da aparaturiT
aRWurvis uzrunvelyofa, kulturul saqmianobaSi xelSewyoba da sxva.
fondis 2010 wlis Semosulobebis da xarjebis Sesaxeb angariSi
(finansuri angariSi) warmodgenilia cxrilis saxiT.
cxrili
`̀TTbbiilliissiiss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo ssaakkoonncceerrttoo ddaarrbbaazziiss””
rreeaabbiilliittaacciiiiss pprrooggrraammaa
2010 wels miRebuli grantis Tanxebi mimarTuli iqna “Tbilisis sax-
elmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” reabilitaciisa da axali teqno-
logiebiT (gaxmovaneba, ganaTeba, infrastruqtura da sxva) aRWur-
visaTvis, risTvisac grantis Tanxa sasyidliT gadaeca Sps “Tbilisis
saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” wilis mmarTvel kompanias, Tanxebis
miznobrivad “Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” reabili-
taciisTvis gamoyenebis pirobiT.
2010 wlis sawarmos balansisafirmo saxelwodeba: "Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis ganviTarebis fondi"
organizaciul samarTlebrivi forma: arasamewarmeo(arakomerciuli) iuridiuli piri
iuridiuli misamarTi: q.Tbilisi. p.meliqiSvilis q.1
dargi (saqmianobis saxe): saqvelmoqmedo saqmianoba
zomis erTeuli: lari
20 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
pirvel rigSi, getyviT, rom
es lamis daujerebeli istoria,
cnobili qarTuli zRapariviT
sadRac uRran tyeSi ki ara, ara-
med, Suagul baTumSi moxda... Ta-
nac, amjerad, pretenzia Cvens
`reformirebul~ TemidasTan gv-
aqvs: ise, ki vicodiT, rom aqam-
de ori Temida arsebobda: erTi
Tvalaxveuli da meore _ Tval-
xiluli, magram Tu mesamec iyo
da isic `nacelitasTan~ Casiam-
tyupebuli, namdvilad ver war-
movidgendiT!!!... es lirikuli ga-
daxveva imitom moviyvane, rom
ufro `Tvalxiluli~ gamexada
is `simarTle~, rac am istoria-
Si ikiTxeba, Tumca nebismieri
adamiani, romelic saqmis deta-
lebs gaecnoba, ar gauZneldeba
SaviT TeTrze nakeris danaxva.
daviwyoT imiT, rom am isto-
riaSi ikveTeba, Tu rogor irR-
veva saberZneTis moqalaqeebis
alika Cirozidis, deniza sakas,
sofia certanifus sakuTrebis
uflebebi, romlebzec amJamad
formalurad iricxeba 146 kvad-
ratuli metri saxlTmflobe-
loba, mdebare baTumSi, revaz
komaxiZis quCis #7-Si. (saerTo
sakuTrebis ezoSi).
TavSive gauwyebT, rom aRniS-
nuli moqalaqeebis srulufle-
bianma warmomadgenelma demosfen
Celikidim vrceli saCivariT mi-
marTa qveynis mTavar proku-
rors, baton murTaz zodelavas,
magram Tveebi gadis da saqarTve-
los mTavari prokuroris uwye-
bidan aranairi pasuxi ar gamo-
sula, is faqtic mravlismetyve-
lia...
masalebiT irkveva, rom ba-
TumSi, komaxiZis quCaze #7-Si
mdebare saxli 1951 wlidan
1976 wlamde ekuTvnoda ganmcxa-
deblebis (alika Cirozidis, de-
niza sakas da sofia certani-
fus) bebias oldas kesoRlis,
mis pirad sakuTrebas warmoad-
genda xuTi oTaxi 125, 9 kv. m.
xuTi oTaxi _ 107, 31 kv. m. da
oTxi oTaxi 78, 36 kv. m.)
oldas kesoRlis gardacva-
lebis Semdeg, 1976 wlis 29
oqtombridan am qonebis patroni
xdeba misi memkvidre elefTer
Cirozidi. memkvidreobis kanoni-
ereba notariusma l. kvintriS-
vilma daadastura da samkvidro
mowmobis miRebis Semdeg saxlm-
flobeloba baTumis teqaRricx-
vis samsaxurma 1978 wels daa-
registrira.
elefTer Cirozidi 1987
wlamde soxumSi cxovrobda,
Semdeg ki saberZneTSi gaemgzav-
ra, sadac gardacvalebamde,
2003 wlamde cxovrobda da sa-
qarTveloSi veRar SeZlo Camos-
vla.
mas Semdeg, rac elefTer Ci-
rozidis warmomadgenlebi ba-
TumSi Camovidnen da es 2008
wels moxda, maT kanonieri memk-
vidris saxelze sajaro reest-
ris monacemebiT nacvlad 311,57
kv. m.-sa, mxolod 146 kv. m sax-
lmflobeloba daxvdaT.
am ucnauri istoriis `ab-
surduli apogea~ is gaxlavT,
rom sadReisod sxvadasxva pire-
bis pretenziebidan da sarCele-
bidan gamomdinare, elefTer Ci-
rozidis memkvidreebs aramc Tu
`gamqral~ da gasxvisebul qone-
baze hqoniaT pretenzia, aramed
Turme piriqiT, iqeT `hqoniaT
vali~ damatebiTi 7 kv. m. odeno-
biT e. w. `axali mesakuTrebis~
mimarT?!!... swored rom zedga-
moWrilia andaza, `gaRma Seedave
da gamoRma SegrCebao~.
rogorc saxlis amJamindeli
memkvidreebis warmodgenili ma-
salebidan Cans, saxlis `gasxvi-
sebis~ procesi jer kidev 1977
wlidan dawyebula, roca 19 Te-
barvals elefTer Cirozidis sa-
kuTrebis 1/8 nawili 36 kv. m
odenobiT moqalaqe vasil sixa-
ruliZes gadaeca, xolo imave
wels 17 marts amave raodenobis
farTis (36 kv. m.) mflobeli mo-
qalaqe Tamaz CaCava xdeba. orive
SemTxvevaSi `xelSekrulebebia~
gaformebuli...
dRes arsebuli masalebiT,
baTumSi, komaxiZis #7-Si mdeba-
re saxli sakuTrebis uflebiT
registrirebulia Semdeg subieq-
tebze: alik Cirozidze (elef-
Ter Cirozidis memkvidre) _
36,65 kv.m. deniza sakaze (elef-
Ter Cirozidis memkvidre) _
54,97 kv.m. sofia certaniduze
(elefTer Cirozidis memkvidre)
_ 54,97 kv.m. jambul koCaliZe-
ze _ 75.02 kv.m. Tamaz CaCavaze _
104, 65 kv.m. _ es sajaro rees-
tris mier gacemuli monacemebi
gaxlavT. amave misamarTze yofi-
li teqnikuri aRricxvis masale-
biT 42.05 kv. m. farTi regist-
rirebulia vasil sixaruliZis
sakuTebad.
miaqcieT yuradReba imas, rom
elefTer Cirozidis mier samk-
vidros miRebis Semdeg yovelg-
vari nebarTvisa da kanoniT gaT-
valiswinebuli safuZvlis gare-
Se am misamarTze samoqalaqo re-
estris monacemebiT 36 piria Ca-
werili. am xalxis aRniSnul mi-
samarTze registraciis faqtmac
gamoiwvia kidec maT mier sasa-
marTloSi sarCelis Setana, sa-
dac isini moiTxoven elefTer
Cirozidis memkvidreebisagan 25
procentis gadaxdis sanacvlod
dakavebul farTebze sakuTrebis
uflebebis gadacemas...
namdvil mesakuTresTan dava
pirvelebma am ezoSi mcxovrebma
e. w. `mosargeblem~ ciala cin-
caZem da nugzar abzianiZem da-
iwyes `sacxovrebeli sadgomiT
warmoSobili urTierTobebis
Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos kanonis
Sesabamisad! maTi moTxovna gax-
ldaT is, rom sasamarTlos mier
cnobili yofiliyvnen maT mier
dakavebuli sadgomis mesakuT-
red, maT mflobelobaSi arsebu-
li qonebis 25 procentis elef-
Ter Cirozidze gadaxdiT. davis
dawyebis erT-erTi motivi gaxl-
daT aRniSnuli kanonis droSi
anu 2010 wlamde moqmedeba, sxva
SemTxvevaSi e. w. `mosargeblee-
bi~ sadaod maT sargeblobaSi
myof qonebaze yvelanair ufle-
bas kargavdnen.
pirveli instanciis sasamar-
TloSi orive mosarCelis saqme
ganixiles. orive mosamarTle
xaTuna bolqvaZem awarmoa, masTa-
naa warmoebaSi mesamec, vasileva-
zoiZis sarCelic. quTaisis saa-
pelacio sasamarTloSi saqmeebi
mxolod erTma kolegiam, irma
peraniZis TavmjdomareobiT gani-
xila. yuradRebamisaqcevia is
faqti, rom, rogorc wesi, baTu-
mis sasamarTloSi samoqalaqo
saqmeebs oTxi mosamarTle ixi-
lavs. da am dros yvela saqme,
romelic elefTer Cirozidis
sakuTrebis winaaRmdegaa, `ra-
tomRac~ xvdeba maincdamainc xa-
Tuna bolqvaZesTan, iseve `Sem-
TxveviTobiT~, rogorc saapela-
cio palataSi marto irma pera-
niZesTan.
wardgenili sarCelebidan
ciala cincaZis mier aRZruli
dava mosarCelis sasargeblod
dasrulda saapelacio sasamarT-
loSi. gadawyvetilebiT saapela-
cio sasamarTlom baTumSi, koma-
xiZis 7-Si 31, 50 kv. metrze sa-
kuTrebis ufleba daudgina. am
ukanasknelis mier elefTer Ci-
rozidis memkvidreebis sasargeb-
lod farTis sabazro Rirebule-
bis 25 procentis gadaxdis sa-
nacvlod. aseve, mosarCele nug-
zar abzianiZis sasargeblod ga-
dawyvita davebi baTumis saqala-
qo da quTaisis saapelacio sasa-
marTloebma, komaxiZis 7-Si nug-
zar abzianiZesac daukanones da-
kavebul farTze sakuTreba.
axla CamovSordeT sasamarT-
lo qronikis aRweras da imaze
visaubroT, Tu ra uxeSi kanon-
darRvevebiT warimarTa orive
instanciis sasamarTloebSi saq-
meebis ganxilva... ar gadavaWar-
bebT, rom es iyo araobieqturo-
bis da mikerZoebis aSkara demon-
strireba... daviwyeb imiT, rom
sasamarTlo procesebze elef-
Ter Cirozidis memkvidre alik
Cirozidi kanoniT dadgenili we-
siT ar iqna mowveuli. sasamarT-
los arc ki gaugzavnia misTvis
arc erTi sarCeli. aseve sasa-
marTlos mopasuxeebad ar daur-
Tavs arc sxva memkvidreebic: de-
niza saka da sofia certanidu.
arc maT miuRiaT sarCelebi da
arc saapelacio saCivrebi. orive
instanciis sasamarTlom saqmeebi
am aucilebeli procedurebis
gareSe ganixila. rac Seexeba sa-
apelacio sasamarT-
los, man arc erTi
saqme ar daabruna pir-
vel instanciaSi, miaq-
cieT yuradReba: pir-
veli instanciis we-
siT ganixila saqmeebi
deniza sakas da cer-
tanidus mimarT, rac
saqarTvelos kanonm-
deblobiT dauSvebe-
lia.
samoqalaqo saqmeSi
arsebuli, Tavad abzi-
aniZis mier warmodge-
nili da saapelacio
saCivarze TandarTuli
mtkicebulebebi, komu-
naluri gadasaxadebis
qviTrebi adastureben
imas, rom zurab abzianiZe da ara
nugzar abzianiZe ixdida komuna-
lur gadasaxadebs komaxiZis #7-
Si, literi `a~ bina (oTaxi)
#6-is mixedviT da isic 2000
wlidan da ara 1996 wlamde,
rogorc amas mosarCele amtki-
cebs.
rac Seexeba calke mdgom 39
kv. m. sacxovrebel da 11 kv. m
damxmare farTs, romlis misa-
kuTrebasac cdilobda mosarCe-
le, am farTSi wlebis ganmavlo-
baSi cxovrobdnen elefTer Ci-
rozidis naTesavebi _ SCukina
meropi da SCukina ana, romelTa
gardacvalebis Sedeg aRniSnul
farTs ukanonod daeufla abzia-
niZe. es garemoeba dasturdeba
memkvidris mier warmodgenili
sabinao wignis amonaweridan. Ta-
nac, saapelacio sasamarTloeb-
zec daadastura abzianiZem es
garemoeba. magram sasamarTloze
moxda gaugonari faqti, roca
mosamarTlem mainc CaTvala, rom
SCukinas yofili farTic elef-
Ter CirozidisTan dadebuli ze-
piri garigebis safuZvelze SCu-
kinebis gardacvalebis Semdeg ab-
zianiZem kanonierad miiRoo!?...
miuxedavad imisa, rom ar arse-
bobda araviTari mtkicebuleba
imisa, rom abzianiZe elefTer Ci-
rozidma SCukinebis yofil samf-
lobeloSi Cawera da is ixdida
komunalur gadasaxadebs am oTa-
xebis mixedviT...
aq kanondarRvevebis mTeli
kaskadia da Wirs kidec maTSi
sruli garkveva, Tumca aris ise-
Tebic, romlebic aranair rea-
lur logikaSic ki ar jdeba:
Tundac is, rom sasamarTlom
mtkicebulebad miiRo da Seafasa
mosarClis mier warmodgenili
sabinao wignis Canaweris gayal-
bebuli asli, romelic, warmo-
idgineT da Sesrulebuli iyo
rusul enaze. kanonis Tanaxmad
ki sasamarTloSi warmodgenili
yvela dokumenti Sesrulebuli
unda iyos qarTul enaze, winaaR-
mdeg SemTxvevaSi maT iuridiuli
Zala ar aqvT.
siyalbisa da arakompetentu-
robis klasikuri magaliTia
isic, rom sacxovrebeli sadgo-
miT warmoSobili urTierTobis
Sesaxeb kanonis miRebis momenti-
saTvis nugzar abzianiZe amowe-
rili iyo komaxiZis q. #7-dan,
rac dasturdeba mis mier war-
modgenili sabinao wignis amona-
weriT, kerZod, wignis grafaSi
Cartymulia Stampi, Cawera 16-
2/X-1984 weli, amowera 27/XII
1984 weli. anu abzianiZe sul
raRac ori TviT yofila Caweri-
li aRniSnul misamarTze, rac
namdvilad ar aris sakmarisi me-
sakuTris farTze raime ufleb-
rivi pretenziebisaTvis, xolo
sabinao wignis dednis mopovebis
Semdgom memkvidreebis mier dad-
genili iqna, rom cincaZis 1952
wlis e. w. `CaweraSi~ Canaweri
Sesrulebulia burTuliani av-
tokalmiT. Cawera ki ganxorcie-
lebulia 1984 wlis pasportis
monacemebiT. xolo 1995 wlis
CaweraSi gayalbebulia mesakuT-
ris Stampi. (cnobisaTvis: aq al-
baT yalbismqnelebs gamorCaT, an
ar icodnen, rom burTulebiani
avtokalmebi mxolod 50-iani wl-
ebis bolos Seiqmna da es msof-
lio miRwevad iqna aRiarebuli,
ase, rom 1952 wels am tipis av-
tokalamze fiqric ki warmoud-
geneli ram iyo).
ufro metic, arc 1952 da
arc 1963 wels elefTer Ciro-
zidi baTumSi, komaxiZis q. #7-
Si aranair qonebas ar flobda,
igi mesakuTre gaxda mxolod
1976 wels pirvelad, mis sakuT-
rebaSi arsebuli mTliani far-
Tis nawili 1977 welsaa gasxvi-
sebuli vasil sixaruliZeze. igi
Cveulebrivi sanotaro wesiTaa
ganxorcielebuli da ara zepiri
xelSekrulebiT. rac Seexeba
nugzar abzianiZes da ciala cin-
caZes, maTTan elefTer Ciro-
zids aranairi nasyidobis xel-
Sekruleba ar daudvia. da es pi-
rebi e. w. forma pirvelSi da
sabinao wignSi gayalbebuli
StampebiT arian Cawerili!!!...
kerZod, sapasporto samsaxuris
mier Sevsebuli nugzar abziani-
Zisa da ciala cincaZis piradi
aRricxvis baraTi mesakuTris
grafaSi CarTtymulia im momen-
tisTvis gardacvlili (1973 we-
ls). kesoRli olgas Stampi ko-
maxiZis q. #7-Si kesoRli ol-
gas samkvidro qoneba ki iyo ara
kesoRlis, aramed misi memkvid-
ros elefTer Cirozidis sakuT-
reba. esec Seni reformirebuli
sasamarTlos `samarTalSedev-
ri~!
nugzar Jordaniaspecialurad baTumidan
Turme ra ar xdeba CaliT daxurul `absurdeTSi~?
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qarTuli filologiis fu-
Zemdebeli korneli kekeliZe Ta-
visi daxvretili vaJis _ aleq-
sandres (liosikos) Sesaxeb ara-
fers ambobda, TiTqos mis da-
RupvasTan erTad akrZaluli
hqonda Svilis saxelis xsene-
bac... roca ufrosi vaJis daxv-
retis ambavi gaigo, mecnieri me-
ore meuRlis (minadora kasra-
Zis) sofelSi, cxinvalis raio-
nis sofel qemertSi isvenebda.
tragikuli ambis macneebma qemer-
tidan ise waiyvanes korneli,
arc ki icoda, risTvis mihyav-
daT. mxolod gzaSi uTxres Svi-
lis daxvretis Sesaxeb da aiZu-
les korneli, Svilze saaugo
werili gamoeqveynebina, rom es
TiTqos antiqarTuli movlena
iyo. antiqarTul movlenaSi ki
korneli kekeliZe 1924 wlis
ajanyebaSi vaJis monawileobas
gulisxmobda. marTalia, aseTi
konformistuli nabijiT korne-
li kekeliZem reJimis moTxovna
Seasrula, magram mogvianebiT,
mTeli sicocxli manZilze, am
saqciels Tavis Tavs ar patiob-
da.
korneli kekeliZis tragiku-
lad daRupuli Svili garegno-
biTac gamorCeuli da niWieri
qarTveli vaJkaci gaxldaT. li-
osikos Sesaxeb cnobebi metad
mwiria. mas col-Svili ar dar-
Cenia. liosikom 1924 wels daa-
arsa iataqveSa gaerTianeba „Ta-
visufali saqarTvelo”. maSin
aleqsandre (liosiko) 18 wlis
iyo. organizacia erT–erT wevrs
gaucia. imasac amboben, rom Ce-
kistebma samaCabloSi dasasveneb-
lad Casuli korneli Tavidan
daapatimres da ise Caiyvanes
TbilisSi, magram, rodesac da-
kiTxvebis Sedegad darwmundnen,
rom mas am organizaciasTan ara-
viTari Sexeba ar hqonda, gaaTa-
visufles. erTaderTi, rac lio-
sikos Sesaxeb cnobilia, isaa,
rom igi monawileobda qaquca
ColoyaSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT
mowyobil ajanyebaSi, romelic
marcxiT dasrulda. orkviriani
umZimesi brZolebis Semdeg wiTe-
li armiisa da Cekas nawilebma
ajanyeba sisxlSi CaaxSves. sam-
xedro operaciebs Tan erTvoda
1924 wlis 30 agvistodan seq-
tembris damlevamde ganxorcie-
lebuli, manamde uprecedento
represiebi, romelmac Tormeti
aTasamde adamianis sicocxle Se-
iwira. amdenad, danarCeni infor-
macia liosikos Sesaxeb TiTqmis
ar arsebobs da arc batoni kor-
neli mis Sesaxeb arafers ar hyv-
eboda. gadmocemis Tanaxmad, ro-
ca liosikos saxlSi miadgnen,
is fanjridan gadamxtara da Ce-
kistebs gzaSive mouklavT. aleq-
sandre kekeliZe dauxvretiaT
dRevandel Tavisuflebis moe-
danze.
sainteresoa, Tavad korneli
kekeliZe rogor gadaurCa repre-
siebs, an ratom apatia mas re-
Jimma aseTi meamboxe Svilis gaz-
rda?! am sakiTxze bevr mis Tana-
medroves Tu momdevno Taobis
warmomadgenels ufiqria. misi
gadarCenis erT-erTi versia ki
isev stalins unda ukavSirdebo-
des. korneli kekeliZe da sta-
lini erTad swavlobdnen Tbili-
sis seminariaSi, isini Tanatole-
bi iyvnen. erTxel konfliqti
mouvidaT da kornelis wigni Ca-
urtyams TavSi soso juRaSvi-
lisTvis, radgan mas ar uTxove-
bia wigni. romeliRac wigni
vTxoveo, – ixsenebda; stalinma
miTxra: rad ginda, mainc ver ga-
igeb am wignis Sinaarss Seno.
amas mohyolia es yvelaferi.
mogvianebiT amis gamo kornelis
sul eSinoda, stalins ar gaex-
senebina es ambavi. Tumca 1936
wels, roca saqarTvelos dele-
gacia moskovSi olimpiadaze
stumrad imyofeboda, stalins
cnobili reJisoris, mixeil Wia-
urelisTvis aseTi ram uTqvams:
Tqven iq ori didi mecnieri
gyavT _ ivane javaxiSvili da
korneli kekeliZe da maT moua-
reTo. albaT, am frazam gadaar-
Cina, Torem ivane javaxiSvilsac
da korneli kekeliZesac iseve
miayolebdnen, rogorc sxva in-
teligentebs, miT ufro, rom
kornelis Svili 1924 wlis
ajanyebaSi monawileobda,
Tanac arsebobda im drois-
Tvis meore miutevebeli
„danaSauli“ _ korneli ke-
keliZe mRvdeli iyo.
marTlac, Tavis droze
igi mRvdlad ekurTxa, mag-
ram arasdros samrevlo ek-
lesiis mRvdeli ar yofi-
la. is gaxldaT sasuliero
seminariis eklesiis mRvde-
li. rodesac TbilisSi
1916 wels pirveli qarTu-
li sasuliero seminaria
gaixsna, (dRevandeli mecx-
re saavadmyofos SenobaSi),
misi pirveli reqtori gax-
ldaT korneli kekeliZe.
igi dekanozi iyo. roca ki-
rioni akurTxes kaTaliko-
sad, 1917 wels, pirveli
jildo, romelic man gasca,
korneli kekeliZisTvis iyo
gankuTvnili_saeklesio mi-
tra, sapatio Tavsaburavi.
stalinisa da kekeliZis
gzebi erTxel kidev gadaik-
veTa. 1951 wels stalini
isvenebda borjomSi. korne-
lic iq isvenebda. am periodSi
gamovida „Zveli qarTuli mwer-
lobis“ pirveli tomis ganmeore-
biTi gamocema. literaturis in-
stitutis TanamSromlebma sTx-
oves kekeliZes, am wigniT misu-
liyo stalinTan. amis Zalian wi-
naaRmdegi iyo batoni korneli,
radgan tragikuli ambebis Sem-
deg (mas Zmac dauxvrites) igi
cota SeSinebuli gaxldaT, mag-
ram sabolood daiyolies. mivi-
da, magram ar miiRo stalinma,
SemouTvala, wigni kancelaria-
Si datovos, me dasasveneblad
var Camosuli da ara saqmiani
SexvedrebisTviso.
sxvaTaSoris, korneli keke-
liZisa da saqarTvelos maSinde-
li patriarqis, kalistrate
cincaZis ojaxebi erTmaneTis
moyvrebi yofilan. korneli ke-
keliZis ufrosi dis meuRle
(amfiloqe cincaZe) kalistrate
cincaZis Zma iyo. kornelim Tbi-
lisis sasuliero seminaria
warCinebiT roca daasrula,
swavlis gasagrZeleblad kievis
sasuliero akademiaSi gamgzav-
rebamde misula kalistrate
cincaZesTan da rCeva ukiTxavs.
kalistrates uTqvams, Tu ga-
mocdebs ver daiWer (ver Caaba-
reb), kievs mainc daaTvalierebo.
marTlac, mis rCevas daujera.
rogorc TviTon korneli xum-
robiT ityoda xolme, SesaniSna-
vad vasrulebdi kalistrates
davalebas da kievs vaTvaliereb-
dio. erTxel kievis akademiis
saerTo sacxovreblis im oTax-
Si, sadac korneli or abituri-
entTan erTad iyo dabinavebuli,
reqtori Sesula da ukiTxavs,
Tqvens garda mesame vin ariso.
uTqvamT, erTi qarTvelia, rome-
lic qalaqs aTvalierebso. mas
upasuxia, gadaeciT am qarTvels,
dae, iswavlos, xetials ki Tavi
daaneboso. im dros kornelis
jer kidev ar hqonda gamocdebi
Cabarebuli. Semdeg marTlac
warmatebulad Caabara gamocdebi
da imave kievis akademiis req-
tors madlobis telegrama ga-
ugzavnia Tbilisis sasuliero
seminariaSi aseTi warCinebuli
studentis gagzavnisTvis. kievis
sasuliero akademiis dasrule-
bis Semdeg iqve tovebdnen ka-
Tedraze. sasuliero akademiam
Suamdgomlobac aRZra, rom kor-
neli kekeliZe wminda adgilebis
mosanaxuleblad gaegzavnaT, sa-
dac qarTuli masala iyo Tav-
moyrili. magram ruseTis sinods
uari uTqvams, misTvis sakmari-
siao da dabrunda TbilisSi.
sainteresoa, rom kievSi swa-
vlebis periodSi saqarTvelos
siwmindeebTan dakavSirebiT kor-
neli kekeliZes arafers aswav-
lidnen. amas adasturebs kalis-
trate cincaZis mogonebac, ro-
melic imave sasuliero akademi-
aSi swavlobda. erT-erT profe-
sors aTonis mTis (sadac qarT-
velTa sulieri cxovreba Cqef-
da) istoriis Sesaxeb leqcia Ca-
utarebia. kalistrate wers, me,
Tornike erisTaviT STagonebul-
ma kacma, Seuracxyofilad vigr-
Zeni Tavi, radgan profesorma ar
daasaxela qarTuli masala. ko-
ridorSi Sevxvdi am profesors
da pirdapir vkiTxe, ratom qar-
Tuli masala ar daasaxeleT.
profesors upasuxia, me qarTu-
li masala ar vicio. kalistra-
tes uTqvams, mari broses mier
„qarTlis cxovreba“ ukve fran-
gulad aris naTargmni da Tqven
es unda gamogeyenebinaTo. profe-
sors upasuxia, me Tqveni daxma-
rebiT gavecnobi am masalas da
amieridan Cems momaval leqcieb-
Si gamoviyenebo. Semdeg kalist-
rate dasZens, rom axalgazrdu-
li siTamamiT momivida es yvela-
feri da, ra Tqma unda, is pro-
fesori sakmaod Caxedulic iyo
da didi avtoritetic gaxldaT
saeklesio istoriaSio.
rac Seexeba korneli kekeli-
Zes, igi daojaxda da kievidan
Camoiyvana iqauri qali. sakmaod
lamazi, magram maTi ojaxi ar
Sedga da 1918 wels sami Svilis
miuxedavad (maT Soris, ufrosi
liosiko iyo), isini gaiyarnen.
1918 wels, universitetis
gaxsnis Semdeg, korneli kekeli-
Zem datova sasuliero uwyeba da
univeritetSi gadavida, romlis
erT-erTi fuZemdebeli Tavadac
iyo ivane javaxiSviliTan erTad.
Tumca es ar niSnavs, rom korne-
li kekeliZem gawyvita urTier-
Toba eklesiasTan. is qristianu-
li wesebis erTguli darCa. ro-
ca pirvel cols eyreboda, erT
adgilas uweria kidec, me morw-
mune qristiani var da marto sa-
moqalaqo wesiT gayra ar mamSvi-
debs. me minda, sasuliero wesi-
Tac gaformdes Cveni ganqorwine-
bao.
Zvel mamuliSvilTa Soris
giorgi merCules “grigol xanZ-
Telis cxovrebas” gamoarCevda,
radgan grigolis mTeli cxovre-
ba (romelic 951 wels daiwera),
iyo originaluri erovnuli mwe-
rlobis gvirgvini meaTe saukune-
Si. es iyo Zvel qarTvelTa ide-
alebis warmoCena da erTiani sa-
qarTvelos SeqmnisTvis brZola.
da bolos, korneli kekeliZe
ambobda xolme, ori cxovrebiT
vicxovreo. erTSi sasuliero
cxovrebas gulisxmobda, meoreSi
_ akademikosobas.
manana nozaZe
korneli kekeliZis 18 wlisvaJi Cekistebma daxvrites
saparlamento fraqcia “qristian-ddemokrate-
bis” wevri magda anikaSvili xelisuflebas
SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqone bavSvebis
dazRvevas sTxovs.
rogorc man parlamentis riggareSe sesiaze
ganacxada, laparakia 5–dan 18 wlamde asakis
SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqone mozardebze.
im pirTa CamonaTvalSi, romelTa dazRvevac moma-
val wels moxdeba, SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis
mqone bavSvebi ver moxvdnen, rac socialuri usa-
marTlobaa. deputats gansakuTrebiT miuReblad
miaCnia dedaqalaqis meriis is ganmarteba, rom 5-
dan 18 wlamde SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqo-
ne bavSvebi dazRvevas mxolod dedaqalaqSi mii-
Reben. anikaSvilis SefasebiT, es mxolod da mxo-
lod diskriminacia iqneba.
deputatma mimarTa premier-mministr nika gila-
urs, raTa aRniSnuli kazusi aRmoifxvras da 5-
dan 18 wlamde SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqo-
ne bavSvebis saxelmwifo dazRvevisaTvis saWiro
Tanxa biujetSi gamoiZebnos.
anikaSvilis informaciiT, aseTi bavSvebis ra-
odenoba 2 000-33 000–s Seadgens, romelTa dax-
marebisTvisac momavali wlis biujetSi sul 200
000 laris gamoyofa iqneba saWiro.
`medianiusi~
anikaSvili xxelisuflebisagan SSezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mmqone bbavSvebis ddazRvevas iiTxovs
22 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.
`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria
qalbatoni fati sexniaiZe,profesiiT stomatologi, rom-
elsac ori kvira mouwia ucxop-
laneteli stumris iZulebiTi
maspinZloba.
_ qalbatono fati, bolo
dros xSirad saubroben aramiwi-
eri arsebebis SesaZlo stumro-
baze, Tqven ki, is ukve `gaica-
niT~.
_ 1992 wlis agvisto iyo,
TuSeTSi, omaloSi CemTan stum-
rad iyo Cemi ori megobari Svi-
lebTan erTad. erT dRes mxo-
lod me da rusiko varT saxl-
Si da aivanze saWmels vakeTebT.
me qvabs vurev, rusiko raRacas
Wris. gverdiTi xedviT davinaxe,
rom Cems gverdiT viRac gaCerda.
vifiqre, rom rusikoa, magram
rom mivxede, rusiko isev magi-
dasTan ijda da saqmianobda.
qvabSi rom Cavixede, isev davina-
xe is viRac. gavxede, rusiko
isev iq zis. Cemi Tavis SemeSin-
da, magram araferi vTqvi, eseni
ar davafrTxo-meTqi. ramdenime
dReSi sruliad marto davrCi.
vzivar aivanze, vqsov da isev,
gvediTi mxedvelobiT vxedav vi-
Racas. SiSs ar gamCenia.
Camovedi TelavSi da aRarc
gamxsenebia es ambavi. 1993 wlis
maisis mziani dila iyo. Cemi me-
uRle wavida samsaxurSi, mec
unda gavemzado wasasvlelad da
abazanis sarkeSi rom Cavixede,
ras vxedav, quTuTos kuTxe, da-
axloebiT, ceri TiTis frCxi-
lis zomaze CaSavebuli maqvs.
ase rogor movirtyi ZilSi xe-
li-meTqi da mklavebsac rom
Sevxede, mTlad sagonebelSi Cav-
vardi, _ sisxlZarRvebi mqonda
ise saSinlad amomjdari, TiTqos
saTiTaod damaxazes kanze lur-
ji flomasteriT da kidev matu-
lobs gaberva. vgrZnob, raRac
sxvanairad cudad vxdebi. gavane-
be Tavi pirisbanas da isev lo-
ginSi davweqi. Cems Tavs vekiTxe-
bi, ra mWirs, ra SegrZnebaa es.
azrze rom movedi, Cemi sabnis
zemodan meuRlis sabanic mafa-
ria, magram mivxvdi, rom ki ar
mciva, mcxela, magram Tavs rom
amovyof amosasunTad, rom ar
CavZvre sabnebSi, cudad vxdebi.
am Tavis Cayof-amoyofaSi uec-
rad aRmovaCine, rom marto ar
var, viRac aris gverdze. ai, ma-
Sin gamaxsenda TuSeTis ambavi.
SiSis grZnoba ar gaqvs am dros,
interesi giCndeba, danaxva ginda.
_ CaZvromis survilma gagia-
ra?
_ ara! ara! rom aRar vZvre-
bodi, iseTi tkivili damewyo
mTel sxeulSi, romelic xan
sad mecemoda, xan sad, rom kivi-
lamde mivyavdi da ucbad gada-
mivlida. xom aseT tanjvaSi vi-
yavi, mainc gafacicebiT vaTvali-
erebdi gverdiTi mxedvelobiT
im viRacas. is iyo maRal adami-
anze kidev ufro maRali, ecva
Ria ruxi feris, gamoberili,
skafandris msgavsi samosi. Tavi,
tanTan SedarebiT patara hqonda.
saxec moruxo hqonda, Tvalebi
wertilebiviT, nestoebic da pi-
ri raRacnairad gaWrili. ukve
mivxvdi, rom is iyo ucxoplane-
teli.
sabanSi rom vZvrebodi, cota
Sveba mqonda, magram daviRale,
momwyinda es CaZvrom-amoZvromac,
Tavs Zala davatane, avdeqi, sam-
saxurSi davreke, eqTans vuTxa-
ri, rom cudad viyavi da ver mi-
vidodi. Cacma rom daviwye, axla
ukve kisridan dawyebuli, mTel
tanze, gansakuTrebiT mucelze,
mTlad lurjad daxazuli var
gaberili sisxlZarRvebiT da
gugunebs Signidan sisxli. im
momentSi amas ver vukavSirebdi
ucxoplanetels, imas vfiqrob-
di, ra mWirs, ra meSveleba-meT-
qi. iseTi xom ar veCvenebodi gam-
vlelebs, yelamde dafaruli sa-
mosi Cavicvi im sicxeSi da sas-
wrafod wavedi saavadmyofoSi
guram iWiraulTan, sisxlZarR-
vebis eqimTan. me rom mivedi, gu-
rami saoperacioSi Sesasvlelad
emzadeboda, xelebs ibanda. Se-
momxede, ra mWirs-meTqi da ara-
feri sagangaSo aRar mqonda.
Tvalze sisxlCaqcevis gamo ra-
Rac gamomiwera da wamovedi imis
fiqriT, es ra momeCvena-meTqi.
movedi saxlSi da isev daiwyo
guguni yvela sisxlZarRvma da
saSinlad var isev. wamovedi
TbilisSi, aramiancis saavadmyo-
foSi angiologTan, Cems yofil
leqtorTan. aviwie maisuri mo-
farebulSi da isev araferi
mWirs, Tan Cemi profesori Ce-
xoslovakiaSi iyo wasuli sim-
poziumze, sxva aravin iyo sisx-
lZarRvebis normaluri mcodne
da gavbrundi ukan, mivedi saxl-
Si da igive damemarTa. ase gagr-
Zelda 4-5 dRe.
_ meuRle ver xedavda?
_ me ar veubnebodi, ar min-
doda efiqra, rom vafren, xolo
is ver xedavda sisxlCaqcevis
garda verafers. guramTan misv-
lis ambavi ar damimalavs, isic
imitom vuTxari, rom am ambavs
`stumarTan~ ver vakavSirebdi.
mere amixsnes, rom Turme me vi-
yavi `stumris~ magnitur velSi
da vinaidan susti sisxlZarRve-
bi maqvs, mkveTrad iyo gamoxatu-
li, mere ki mieCvia. mTeli ori
kvira, rac `stumari~ saxlSi
damidioda, zogjer ise momeSle-
boda mis interesze nervebi, rom
wamovuxtebodi gabrazebuli `ra
gamiWire saqme!~ da gavivlidi
masSi. saWmels vakeTebdi, paci-
ents viRebdi Tu sapirfareSoSo
Sevidodi, gverdidan ar mSorde-
boda. rogoria, pacientis piris
RruSi vixedebi, raRac kargad
minda davinaxo, esec Sigaa CaS-
terebuli, lamis loya momados.
gansakuTrebiT ainteresebda pi-
ris Rru da saWmeli.
erTs dRes vmuSaob, pacienti
mizis da movida Cemi skolisd-
roindeli amxanagi, maTematikosi
Tina beJaniSvili. Cven alaznis
prospeqtze vcxovrobdiT, misi
ojaxi zustad mopirdapire mxa-
res kavkasionis prospeqtze, mx-
olod riye gvyofda. sami paci-
enti melodeboda da Tinac daj-
da, Jurnalis Tvaliereba da-
iwyo. cota xanSi `stumaric~
Semovida karebis mxridan da Ti-
nam miixeda. mTeli im xnis gan-
mavlobaSi saidumlod vinaxavdi
rasac vxedavdi, ar mindoda vin-
mes eWvi Seetana Cems fsiqikur
mdgomareobaSi da Tinas reaqcia
rom davinaxe, Cems sixaruls
sazRvari ar hqonda _ Tinac xe-
davs! yvela pacienti rom wavi-
da, davrCiT me, Tina da `stuma-
ri~. Tina meubneba, veravis veub-
nebi, Sen unda giTxrao da sis-
xlisCaqcevianad erTi erTze
miyveba imas, rac mec gada-
tanili maqvs da rom isic
ver amxels am ambavs ojax-
Si. (meuRle da ori Svili
hyavda 6-8 klaselebi) imis
Tqma, rom rogor gvixaria
orives, Serekilebi rom ar
varT da gverdze myofi
`stumris~ gaqroba erTi
iyo. Sin misulma Tinam da-
mireka, saxlSi rom mivedi,
ukve aRar davmale simarT-
le da Turme, Cemi meuR-
lec xedavda da Cemi ori-
ve Svilico.
am ambidan ori kviris
Semdeg meuRle megobarTan,
avTosTan erTad movida,
romelic `legionis ubanSi~
cxovrobda da vaxSmobisas is
gveubneba, ver gaigeT, mTeli
`legioni~ 2 kvira gareT rom
vaTenebTo? Turme, ori kviris
ganmavlobaSi, `legionis~ dasax-
lebis Tavze, Zalze dabal si-
maRleze ekideboda e.w `mfrina-
vi TefSi~ da mzesaviT akaSkaSeb-
da midamos, ise, rom araTu ada-
mianebs, pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT,
qaTmebsac ar eZinaT. Tu gaxsovT,
Temur wiklaurmac Tqva erTxel,
TelavSi ucxoplaneteli vnaxeo,
albaT, es periodi iyo. raki
davrwmundi, rom giJad aravin
CamTvlida, Cemi ambavic vTqvi.
gadairia Cemi meuRle. avTo
Turme dainteresebuli yofila
amoucnobi movlenebiT da es rom
gaigo, aitexa, Tales Sonias un-
da vuTxra Tqveni ambavio. sas-
tik uarze davdeqiT mec da Ti-
nac. TelavSi cxovrobda Tales
Sonias megobari da Tanamoazre
batoni Salva, (beriaSvili an
beroSvili) imisTvis mainc uTq-
vams. rom gaigo, me da Tinas ga-
moCena ar gvindoda, gamomigzavna
franguli Jurnali (Senaxuli
maqvs) ucxoplanetelebze, sadac
aRwerilia maTi saxeobebi, rome-
li iyo TqvenTano, _ ra Tqma un-
da vicani.
ratom vaxsene es Jurnali, _
iq moyvanili iyo erT-erTi maga-
liTi ucxoplanetelebTan deda-
miweli, amerikeli asakovani
col-qmris kontaqtisa, romle-
bic dasasveneblad midiodnen
okeanis sanapiroze. Turme, ra-
dio yovel 15 wuTSi afrTxi-
lebda im arealSi myof adamia-
nebs, rom gardauvali iyo saSi-
neli Stormi da saimedo adgil-
ze Sefarebas urCevdnen. isini
iseT adgilze moxvedrilan, rom
veraferi naxes saimedo da gzas
ganagrZobdnen. uecrad raRac ma-
naTobeli obieqti SeuniSnavT da
gauCerdaT kidec manqana. deta-
lebi rom ar movyve, _ mfrinavi
obieqtidan CamoiSala kibe, Camo-
vida evropili garegnobis kaci,
romelsac ecva gemis kapitnis
msgavsi uniforma da iaponuri
aqcentiT inglisurad uTxra,
asuliyvnen maT mcire moculo-
bis `transportSi~, _ cxvrebi-
viT avyeviTo. gamoikvlies (orni
iyvnen) jer qali, Semdeg mamaka-
cis gamokvleva daiwyes da kacs
uecrad proTezi Camovardnia pi-
ris RruSi. dainteresebulan, ra
ariso da kacs proTezi gamou-
Ria piridan. ise SeSinebiaT,
aqeT-iqiT gadamxtaran. rom dam-
Sviddnen, sakuTar kbilebze da-
uwyes kacs jajguri, mere qal-
sac misdgnen. rom gaiges maTi
organuli iyo, mamakacs proTezi
sTxoves, gaitanes meore ganyo-
filebaSi, cota xanSi ukanve da-
ubrunes da gamoistumres.
maSinve Cemi `stumari~ gamax-
senda, is xom swored imiT miS-
lida nervebs, rom CemTan erTad
moZvreboda pacientis piris
RruSi da muSaobas ar macdida,
Cemze metad dainteresebuli
iyureboda Sig. qvabSic imitom
icqireboda didi mondomebiT,
rom mere im masas (misTvis) pir-
Si videbdiT da raRac moZraobas
(vReWavdiT) vakeTebdiT. Wamis
dros sul pirSi Semogvcqeroda
mec da Cems meuRlesac, rom
ityvian lukmebs gviTvlida.
mis aseT dainteresebas imiT
vxsni, rom albaT, maT kbilebi
ar aqvT, an uares SemTxvevaSi,
aqvT, magram kbilis mkurnaloba
ar ician da es maTTvis tragi-
kulad mTavrdeba, nakleb savara-
udoa, rom proTezismagvar rames
ver amzadebdnen.
_ balaxismWamelebs da xor-
cismWamelebs xom gansxvavebuli
kbilebi aqvT, iqneb, isini rom
CvenTvis ucnobi raRacismWame-
lebi arian, imitom aris saocre-
ba Cveni kbilebi maTTvis.
_ me is vici, rom saWmlis
momzadeba da Wamis procesi Za-
lian ainteresebda, qvabSi da pi-
ris RruSi erTnairad Zvreboda.
amitom iyo, rom gabrazebuli
masSi gavdiodi... im JurnalSi
isic ewera, rom maTSi gavla ar
SeiZleba, radgan isini erTnairi
bunebisani ar arian, SeiZleba
raRac cuds mogwios.
_ axla, ar fiqrobT, rom
masTan kontaqti unda dagemyare-
binaT?
_ kontaqts, albaT, mis mmar-
TvelTan davamyarebdi, Tu mas
endomeboda.
_ ver gavige?
_ avTos piriT batonma Sal-
vam gadmomca, rom Tur-
me, is rom moazrovne
arseba yofiliyo, kiTx-
vebs gagviCenda mec da
Tinasac, raRacas
vkiTxavdiT, mivmarTav-
diT. absoluturad ar
momsvlia azrad, rom da-
mewera an pirdapir me-
kiTxa, ra ginda, ra gami-
Wire saqme-Tqo, an imiT
davinteresebuliyavi sa-
idan movida, ra misiiT
da a. S
_ Tu moazrovne ar
iyo, maSin, Tqven da Ti-
na erTmaneTs rom gaen-
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ratom gaqra?
_ man gadasca informacia,
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dasaxlebidanac~ aikrifnen meo-
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da Tina xom ar viqnebodiT, rom-
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nen, Cven, ubralod, daemTxva,
rom axloblebi viyaviT.
_ erTi cidaa Telavi, `le-
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rom cxel kvalze gekiTxaT?
_ uamravi nacnobi da axlo-
beli myavs, magram warmoidgine,
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_ saqarTvelos samoqalaqo
saproceso kodeqsis 142-e mux-
lis mixedviT:
Cvenebis micemaze uaris Tqmis
ufleba aqvT:
a) mxareTa meuRleebs;
b) axlo naTesavebs _ Svi-
lebs, SviliSvilebs, Zmebs, debs,
mSoblebs, mSvileblebs, Svilobi-
lebs, mzrunvelebs, meurveebs, be-
biebs, papebs;
g) pirebs, romlebic
TavianTi samsaxurebrivi
mdgomareobis gamo valde-
bulni arian, daicvan sai-
dumloeba, Tu isini gaTa-
visuflebulni ar arian am
movaleobisagan.
Cvenebis micemaze uaris
Tqma dasaSvebia, Tu Cvene-
bis micema gamoiwvevs mow-
mis an misi axlo naTesavis
mimarT sisxlis samarT-
lebrivi devnis dawyeba es
an miayenebs maT qonebriv
zians.
amave kodeqsis 143-e
muxlis mixedviT, Cvenebis
micemaze uaris Tqmis uflebis mi-
uxedavad, piri valdebulia mis-
ces Cveneba, Tu:
a) saWiroa, dadasturdes ga-
rigeba, romlis dadebisas igi
miwveuli iyo mowmed;
b) gasarkvevia ojaxis wevris
dabadebis, daqorwinebis an gar-
dacvalebis sakiTxebi;
g) ama Tu im samarTlebrivi
urTierTobebis damyarebisas igi
moqmedebda, rogorc erT-erTi
mxaris warmomadgeneli.
144-e muxlis mixedviT ki
mowmem, romelic uars ambobs Cve-
nebis micemaze, unda daasabuTos
es uari. sakiTxi imis Sesaxeb,
aqvs Tu ara mowmes ufleba, uari
Tqvas Cvenebis micemaze, sabolo-
od gadawydeba sasamarTlos mier.
* * *
__ ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ssaammaarrTTaallSSii rroo-
ggoorr xxddeebbaa aarraassrruullwwlloovvaannii mmooww-
mmiiss ddaakkiiTTxxvvaa??
_ 14 wlis asakamde mowmis
dakiTxvisas, xolo sasamarTlos
SexedulebiT _ 14-dan 18 wlis
asakamde mowmis dakiTxvis dro-
sac, SeiZleba mowveuli iqnas pe-
dagogi, aucileblobis SemTxveva-
Si, SeiZleba moiwvion, agreTve
mSoblebi, mSvileblebi, meurveebi
da mzrunvelebi. aRniSnul pirebs,
sasamarTlos nebarTviT, SeuZli-
aT miscen mowmes SekiTxvebi.
gamonaklis SemTxvevaSi, Tu es
aucilebelia, swori da gulwr-
feli Cvenebis misaRebad aras-
rulwlovani mowmis dakiTxvis
dros sasamarTlos winadadebiT
sxdomis darbazidan SeiZleba ro-
melime mxaris gayvana. sxdomis
darbazSi am mxaris dabrunebis
Semdeg mas unda ecnobos aras-
rulwlovani mowmis Cveneba da
mieces SesaZlebloba dausvas
mowmes SekiTxvebi.
_ mowme, romelsac 16 weli
ar Sesrulebia, dakiTxvis Semdeg
tovebs sasamarTlo sxdomis dar-
bazs, garda im SemTxvevisa, rode-
sac sasamarTlo aucileblad mi-
iCnevs am mowmis darCenas sxdomis
darbazSi.
_ 16 wels miuRweveli pirebi
fics ar deben.
* * *
__ mmoossaammaarrTTlleemm ggaaddaawwyyvveettiillee-
bbaa ssaaTTaaTTbbiirroo ooTTaaxxSSii ggaauussvvlleellaadd
ggaammooggvviiccxxaaddaa?? rraammddeennaadd kkaannoonniiee-
rriiaa eess??
_ mosamarTlis qmedeba kanoni-
eria.
rogorc sisxlis, ise samoqa-
laqo samarTalSi mosamarTles
ufleba aqvs gadawyvetileba mii-
Ros, rogorc saTaTbiro oTaxSi
gasvliT, ise saTaTbiro oTaxSi
gausvlelad, adgilze.
* * *
_ rogor isjeba sicocxlis
mospoba gaufrTxileblobiT?
_ saqarTvelos sisxlis sa-
marTlis kodeqsis 116-e muxlis
mixedviT.
I nawili: sicocxlis mospoba
gaufrTxileblobiT, _
isjeba Tavisuflebis
SezRudviT vadiT xuT wlamde an
Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT vadiT
oridan oTx wlamde.
II nawili: igive qmedeba, Cade-
nili ori an meti piris mimarT,
_
isjeba Tavisuflebis SezRu-
duli vadiT xuT wlamde an Ta-
visuflebis aRkveTiT vadiT sami-
dan xuT wlamde.
* * *
_ ramdenime wlis win, amnis-
tiis aqtis gamo, Cemi Svilis mi-
marT sasamarTlom Sewyvita sis-
xlis samarTlebrivi devna. iTv-
leba Tu ara is nasamarTlevad?
_ amnistiis aqtiT Tqveni
Svili gaTavisuflda sasjelis
moxdisagan, anu mas epatia dana-
Saulebrivi qmedebis Cadena.
sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis
79-e muxlis me-2 nawilis mixed-
viT, sasjelisagan gaTavisufle-
buli iTvleba nasamarTlobis ar-
mqoned.
aRniSnulidan gamomdinare,
Tqveni Svili ar CaiTvleba nasa-
marTlevad.
* * *
_ Seexeba Tu ara xandazmu-
lobis sakiTxi uvado Tavisuf-
lebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebul
pirs?
_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-
sis 71-e da 76-e muxlebis mixed-
viT, sakiTxs, unda Seefardos
Tu ara xandazmulobis vada uva-
do Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT
msjavrdebuls, wyvets sasamarT-
lo. Tu sasamarTlo SeuZleblad
miiCnevs xandazmulobis gamoyene-
bas, uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTa
Seicvleba vadiani Tavisuflebis
aRkveTiT.
* * *
_ SeiZleba Tu ara pirobiT
msjavris vadamde adre gauqmeba?
_ SeiZleba.
_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-
sis 67-e muxlis I nawilis mi-
xedviT, Tu pirobiT msjavrdebu-
li gamosacdeli vadis aranakleb
naxevris gasvlis Semdeg yofaq-
ceviT daamtkicebs Tavis ga-
mosworebas, sasamarTlos
SeuZlia, im organos ward-
ginebiT, romelic axorcie-
lebs kontrolsa da daxma-
rebas pirobiT msjavrdebu-
lis mimarT, gaauqmos piro-
biTi msjavri da msjavrde-
buls mouxsnas nasamarTlo-
ba.
* * *
_ ras niSnavs qmediT mo-
nanieba?
_ qmediTi monanieba niS-
navs Semdegs: danaSaulis
Camdeni piri nebayoflobiT unda
gamocxaddes samarTaldamcav or-
ganoebSi bralis aRiarebiT, xeli
Seuwyos danaSaulis gaxsnas da
aanazRauros ziani.
* * *
_ SezRuduli Seracxadoba
aTavisuflebs Tu ara pirs, sis-
xlissamarTlebrivi pasuxismgeb-
lobisagan?
_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-
sis 35-e muxlis mixedviT.
_ sisxlissamarTlebrivi pa-
suxismgeblobisagan ar Tavisuf-
ldeba srulwlovani, romelic
danaSaulis Cadenis dros imyo-
feboda SezRuduli Seracxado-
bis mdgomareobaSi. ese igi fsi-
qikuri daavadebis gamo ar SeeZ-
lo srulad gaecnobierebina Ta-
visi qmedebis faqtobrivi xasia-
Ti an marTlwinaaRmdegoba anda
exelmZRvanela misTvis.
SezRudul Seracxadobas sa-
samarTlo iTvaliswinebs sasje-
lis daniSvnis dros.
sisxlisamarTlebrivi pasuxi-
smgeblobisagan SeiZleba gaTavi-
sufldes arasrulwlovani, ro-
melic danaSaulis Cadenis dros
imyofeboda SezRuduli Seracxa-
dobis mdgomareobaSi.
* * *
_ ra aris danaSaulis reci-
divi?
_ danaSaulis recidivi niS-
navs winaT ganzraxi danaSauli-
saTvis nasamarTlevi piris mier
ganzraxi danaSaulis Cadenas.
danaSaulis recidivis dadge-
nisas mxedvelobaSi ar miiReba
nasamarTloba Tvramet wlamde
Cadenili danaSaulisaTvis, ag-
reTve, nasamarTloba, romelic
moxsnili an gaqarwylebulia ka-
noniT dadgenili wesiT.
`saerTo gazeTis~ iuridiuli konsultacia
STabeWdileba mrCeba
rom yvelaferi mzad
aqvs dasavleTs samx-
reT kavkasiaSi axali
politikuri da geopolitiku-
ri realobis formirebisTvis
da dRe dReze Sesabamisi brZa-
nebac SeiZleba gaices.. ar gavs
es yovelive pragmatuli dasav-
leTis stils. TiTqos dro ga-
yavT bolo akordis Sesasru-
lebamde.. an iqneb ufro masS-
taburi cvlilebebi igegmeba
vidre samxreT kavkasiis afeT-
qeba? da Tu ki, ra aris es mas-
Staburi? iranTan omi? siriis
okupacia? Tu ra? denTis suni
rom dgas es aSkaraa, rodis
ifeTqebs da rogor, eg darCa
gasarkvevi..
me, miyvarda Cemi kei-
sari,magram romi yve-
lafers merCiao _
Tavi imarTla bru-
tusma keisris mokvlasTan da-
kavSirebiT. mivmarTav nac-moZ-
raobis wevrebs: nuTu saakaSvi-
lia TqvenTvis yvelaferi da
saqarTvelo araferi araa!
rodesac vusmen um-
ravlesobis komenta-
rebs putinis mTavro-
baze da ruseTSi mim-
dinare movlenebze, iseTi STa-
beWdileba meqmneba rom umrav-
lesobis zogierTi wevri ru-
seTze laparakiT cdilobs re-
bilatiacia moaxdinos, anu im-
as ris Tqmasac ver bedaven mi-
Sa saakaSvilze da saqarTve-
loSi mimdinare movlenebze,
amas didi enTuziazmiT akeTeben
ruseTTan mimarTebaSi. aris ki
raime mniSvnelovani gansxvaveba
putinsa da saakaSvils, puti-
nis mTavrobasa da saakaSvilis
mTavrobas Soris?
amas hqvia sad erekle
da sad misi qamar-xan-
jali. omi xo moigo
da exla operas mixe-
davs ra qnas aba kacma Tan er-
Ti-ori kubis mere Jizelis
ariebi midis imis de...
dRes Camovedi baTu-
midan. sruli pasu-
xismgeblobiT minda
ganvacxado,rom baTu-
mis umetesi nawili ukve Tur-
qebis,iranelebis da somxebi-
saa,xolo Tu ese kidev 1-2 we-
li gagrZelda qarTvelebi eT-
nikuri umciresoba iqnebian.
politikaSi imitom
ki ar mivdivarT rom
samSoblos vWirde-
biT, imitom mivdi-
varT rom kargad vicxov-
roT!...sanam es mankiereba ar
daingreva, verc nato gviSve-
lis da verc qsenia. samSoblos
patronoba unda viswavloT da
ara batonoba!jerxnobiT poli-
tikuri partiebi mxolod
mZarcvelebis ampluiT minaxavs:
an xma undaT, an Wiri da
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saakaSvili zRapris
im devs daemsgavsa
wyalsaa rom dapat-
ronebuli da yovel
weliwads 200 qaliSvili mi-
yavT gadasaxadis saxiT
exla Seiqmneba bevri
fondi sadac daWe-
ril da daterore-
bul xalxs fuls Ca-
aricxineben da gamoiyeneben ar-
Cevnebze
mokled erTi mesmis
da vici! Tu saqarTve-
lo kide amaT xelSi
unda darCes es niS-
navs am qveynis da eris gadaSe-
nebas!!! da Tu saqarTvelo da
qarTveli eri ar iqneba mogvyo-
lia mTeli msoflio ukan!!!!!!!!!!
ojaxSi romelsac es-
tumra miSa gadaklu-
li babuinebi iyvnen.
im kacis Svili maska
Camocmuli dubinkebiT scemda
aslanas miwinaaRmdegebs
is Tu iciT, rom 25
dekembers SeiZleba
israelma irans da-
artyas, mere Cven ra
gveSveleba?
sad erekle dad sad
misi qamar-xanjali
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da opera es xo aneg-
dotia. Tan biznesmeni daviT
kezeraSvili weria. neta rato
ar ekiTxeba miSas guram Caxva-
Ze cal-cali kaloSiT 2003 Si
mosuli kezeraSvili rogor
gaxda biznesmeni da dRes ukve
“qvelmoqmedebiTac” dakada da
kidev erTi fondi Seqmna saar-
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biznesmeni daviT ke-
zeraSvili ar mog-
wonT? da miSa ko-
rufciasTan #1 mebr-
Zoli? rato ar ekiTxeba vinme
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mikur mdgomareobas, vinc adekvaturad afasebs gamomwvev mizezebs da acnobierebs viTa-
rebis Semdgomi gauaresebis perspeqtivas, vinc gamosavals xelisuflebis samarTliani,
demokratiuli arCevnebiT SecvlaSi xedavs.
qarTuli `ocnebis saxelmwifo~ iqneba qveyana, sadac marTvis sistema daefuZneba ada-
mianis sayovelTaod aRiarebuli uflebebis ganuxrel dacvas.
aRdgeba balansi aRmasrulebel, sakanonmdeblo da sasamarTlo xelisuflebas Soris,
rac gamoricxavs Zalauflebis Tavmoyras erTi politikuri Zalis xelSi da avtorita-
rul mmarTvelobas.
nebismieri sakonstitucio cvlileba an gansakuTrebuli saxelmwifoebrivi mniSvne-
lobis kanoni miiReba mxolod sazogadoebasTan konsultaciebisa da konsensusis piro-
bebSi.
xelisuflebis saqmianobis maqsimaluri gamWirvaleoba rogorc biuje-
tis, ise erovnuli uSiSroebis politikis gansazRvrisas, uzrunvel-
yofs xelisuflebis erTaderTi wyaros, saqarTvelos xalxis intere-
sebis dacvas.
media gaTavisufldeba saxelmwifo kontrolisagan da Tavad iq-
ceva xelisuflebis kontrolis meqanizmad, rac, Tavis mxriv, sa-
zogadoebas mravalmxrivi, miukerZoebeli informaciis safuZvelze
arCevanis saSualebas miscems.
sasamarTlo daculi iqneba nebismieri gare gavlenisgan. marTl-
msajulebis aRsruleba daefuZneba erTaderT princips _ kanonis
uzenaesobas.
qveynis gamTlianeba Cveni osi da afxazi Tanamemamuleebis qarTu-
li saxelmwifosadmi ndobis aRdgeniT daiwyeba. gvwams, rom am princi-
pebisadmi sazogadoebis TiToeuli wevris erTguleba, miuxedavad eTniku-
ri warmomavlobis, religiuri aRmsareblobis da politi-
kuri mrwamsisa, `qarTuli ocnebis~ asrulebamde ocnebis
saqarTvelos. sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocnebis~
mizania uzrunvelyos sazogadoebis gavlena saqarTvelos
politikur, ekonomikur da socialur ganviTarebaze da
maqsimalurad Caabas igi Cveni qveynisaTvis mniSvnelovani
problemebis gansazRvrasa da ganxilvaSi.
`̀qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbaa~~ eekkuuTTvvnniiss yyvveellaass!!
sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocneba~ gamocdil specialistebTan erTad gansazR-
vravs da maTi daxmarebiT SeimuSavebs konkretul samoqalaqo gegmas samarTlis, adamianis
uflebebis, marTlmsajulebis, ekonomikuri politikis, soflis meurneobis, ekologiis,
jandacvis, socialuri uzrunvelyofis, ganaTlebis, mecnierebis, kulturis, sagareo po-
litikis, konfliqtebis mogvarebis, regionaluri politikis, adgilobrivi TviTmmarTve-
lobis, erovnuli umciresobebis, usafrTxoebis, axalgazrdobisa da sportis aqtualur
sakiTxebze. sazogadoebriv moZraobasTan arsebuli Tematuri jgufebi Seiswavlian calke-
ul dargebSi arsebul viTarebas da SeimuSaveben ganviTarebis efeqtian modelebs. jgufe-
bis wevrebi konsultaciebs gamarTaven konkretuli sferoebis eqspertebTan, saerTaSori-
so organizaciebisa da diplomatiuri misiebis warmomadgenlebTan.
Camoyalibdeba regionaluri struqturebi, romelTa mTavari mizani iqneba sazogadoebi-
sa da politikuri Zalebis konsolidacia samarTliani saarCevuno garemos Sesaqmnelad,
rac, Tavis mxriv, ganapirobebs saxelmwifo mmarTvelobaSi xalxis ndobiT aRWurvili po-
litikuri Zalebis mosvlas.