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levan berZeniSvili: C M Y K #54 (183) 21 -23.XII , 2011 weli gamodis oTxSabaTs da SabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lari oTxSabaTs saakaSvili qarTul presas ganadgurebas upirebs! rac ufro bevrjer dauZaxebs saakaSvili ruseTis agents biZina ivaniSvils, miT ufro met xmas miiRebs ivaniSvili... yvelaze metad saakaSvili misTvis saZulvel aslan abaSiZes hgavs, mere ra, rom is dabali iyo da es maRalia? mainc imas hgavs `yvelam icis, rom biZina ivaniSvili ar ityueba da rasac gvpirdeba, aucileblad gaakeTebs~ gogi TofaZe: `ra ena waxdes...~ Tu Cven vapirebT saqarTve- loSi inglisuri ena urTierT- gagebinebis saSualebad gamovi- yenoT, maSin xelT SegvrCeba Semdegi viTareba _ inglisure- novani somxebi, inglisurenova- ni azerbaijanelebi da ingli- surenovani qarTvelebi. Cndeba kiTxva _ ra hqvia im qveyanas, sadac es inglisurenovani xalxebi cxovroben? vaxtang xarCilava:

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Page 1: gogi TofaZe...ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14 oqtomberi (rac, formalurad mainc, saar-Cevno procesis dagegmil vadebSi Catarebas gulisxmobda),

levan berZeniSvili:

C M Y K

#54 (183) 21-223.XII, 2011 weli gamodis oTxSabaTs da SabaTs www.saertogazeti.net; E-mail: [email protected] fasi 1 lariooTTxxSSaabbaaTTss

saakaSvili qarTul presasganadgurebas upirebs!

rac ufro bevrjer dauZaxebssaakaSvili ruseTis agentsbiZina ivaniSvils, miT ufro met xmas miiRebs ivaniSvili...

yvelaze metad saakaSvilimisTvis saZulvel

aslan abaSiZes hgavs, mere ra, rom is dabali

iyo da es maRalia? mainc imas hgavs

`yvelam icis, rombiZina ivaniSvili

ar ityueba da rasac

gvpirdeba, aucileblad

gaakeTebs~

gogi TofaZe:

`ra ena waxdes...~Tu Cven vapirebT saqarTve-

loSi inglisuri ena urTierT-

gagebinebis saSualebad gamovi-

yenoT, maSin xelT SegvrCeba

Semdegi viTareba _ inglisure-

novani somxebi, inglisurenova-

ni azerbaijanelebi da ingli-

surenovani qarTvelebi. Cndeba

kiTxva _ ra hqvia im qveyanas, sadac es

inglisurenovani xalxebi cxovroben?

vaxtang xarCilava:

Page 2: gogi TofaZe...ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14 oqtomberi (rac, formalurad mainc, saar-Cevno procesis dagegmil vadebSi Catarebas gulisxmobda),

saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.2

gazeTi xxelmZRvanelobs TTavisufali ppresis pprincipiT.SesaZloa, aavtoris ppozicia aar eeTanxmebodes rredaqciis aazrs.informaciis ssizusteze ppasuxismgebelia aavtori. ggasaCivrebaSesaZlebelia mmasalis ggamoqveynebidan eerTi kkviris vvadaSi.

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redaqtoris svetixom giTxariT, arCevnebi axlov-

deba-mmeTqi.

ager solomon Ternali `pre-sage.tv~-ddan igives amtkicebs, xolo

batoni solomoni ki, rogorc weri-

lidan irkveva, niWieri da brZeni ka-

cia da haerSi sityvebs tyuilubra-

lod ar isvris.

Tumca brZenoba rad unda imis

mixvedras, rom arCevnebi karsaa mom-

dgari?

erasti galavans rom gadaevlo

da 30 lariani vauCerebi rom dau-

riges glexobas, me piradad imwamve

mivxvdi, arCevnebi sul male, sadRac

gazafxulze dainiSneboda.

_ sworia, sworia, arCevnebi 5 ma-

iss iqnebao _ midasturebs batoni

solomoni.

sainteres -

oa, imas, rasac

me da solomo-

ni ase iolad

vxvdebiT, ra-

tom ver xvde-

bian politiku-

ri partiebi,

romlebic Zve-

leburi sidar-

baisliT agrZe-

leben mTqnare-

bas da zantad

imeoreben er-

Tidaigives _

arCevnebi oq-

tomberSi iqneba, manamde ki erTi we-

lia darCenili da yvelafers movas-

wrebTo.

me mgoni, eseni xelisuflebis da-

valebas asruleben da specialurad

avrceleben cru informacias, Torem

is, rac me da solomonma viciT, ro-

gor SeiZleba amaT ar icodnen?

Tumca romc icodnen, ras cvlis

es codna maTTvis _ gatexili saxe-

li gaumTeldebaT, gayiduli sindisi

daubrundebaT Tu ra?

arCevnebio ki vambobT, magram di-

di asarCevi da Tavsatexi arc ara-

feria _ saarCevno moedanze sul

orad-oori figuraa _ erTi ivaniSvi-

li, meore _ saakaSvili.

am or figuras Soris arCevanis

gakeTeba ki iseTi martivi da iolia,

rom saarCevno kampanias da saagita-

cio-ssapropagando muSaobis Catare-

bac ki ar Wirdeba.

marTalia, saarCevno garemo ar

gaumjobesebula, samagierod, rogo-

rc amboben, `axalma memarjveneebma~

gaiumjobeses finansuri mdgomareoba

da amasTan erTad ise Seerwynen da

Seexmatkbilnen saxelisuflebo gu-

nds, rom xandaxan mamuka kacitaZe

paliko kublaSvilSi mereva.

palikos gaxsenebaze arc is aris

gamoricxuli Salikoc palikos Se-

erwyas, oRond malulad, konspira-

ciulad, rogorc Salikos sCvevia.

ase rom droa, solomon, roma

kvlav iarCevnos saqarTveloma!

asarCevi ki, rogorc giTxariT,

bevri araferia _ an marcxniv wax-

val an marjvniv, esaa da es...

vaxtang xarCilava

yvelaferi dalagda da pazlis areuli

elementebma erTmaneTi monaxes.

rac mTavaria, sabolood SeTanxmda sa-

qarTvelos saparlamento arCevnebis TariRi

– 5 maisi!

sareklamo banerebze iqneba wiTlad da-

xatuli 5/5!

mere ra, rom SabaTia! CvenTvis yvela

dRe xom SabaTia!

ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-

bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14

oqtomberi (rac, formalurad mainc, saar-

Cevno procesis dagegmil vadebSi Catarebas

gulisxmobda), roca moqalaqeTa nawili ek-

lesiebSi wavidoda, didi nawili - mcxeTa-

Si, xolo darCenili nawili – saarCevno

ubnebze� magram es TariRi sakmaod maleve

daiwunes.

SedarebiT didxans da ufro seriozu-

lad ganixileboda 5 agvistos va-

rianti. kvira dRea, mosaxleobis

didi nawili didi xania dasasveneb-

ladaa iqneba gaxekili soflebSi,

mTaSi Tu zRvaze. am TariRis momx-

reebi gegmavdnen, hidrometcentris

meSveobiT gavrcelebuliyo cnoba,

rom 8 agvistos mzeze magnituri

qariSxali, radiaciuli fonis up-

recedento gazrda, da sxva raime

kataklizmebi iqneboda mosalodne-

li da mosaxleobas, gansakuTrebiT,

– pensionerebs, mouwodebdnen sax-

lebSi darCeniliyvnen.

magram, sabolood mainc 5/5-m ajoba

da ai, ratom:

- jer erTi, erTi ki ara, ori xuTi-

ania!!

- 2 maiss ormaisoba Catardeba quTa-

isSi, gaixsneba parlamentis Senoba da

prezidentis sayvareli Sadrevani, rac

arCevnebis win ”nacmoZraobis da xalxis

erTobis” amaRlebul fons Seqmnis.

- 6 maiss policiis dResTan dakavSi-

rebiT ukve 3 maisidan saqarTvelos sxva-

dasxva qalaqebSi daiwyeba policiis aR-

lumis mosamzadebeli wvrTnebi, rac mo-

saxleobisaTvis Zalis demonstrirebis

legaluri sababi iqneba.

- dabolos, xalxi kidev erTxel darw-

mundeba, rom miSa sityvebs haerze ar isv-

ris da rom mravaljer gameorebuli 26 ma-

isidan saqarTvelos axali parlamentis qu-

TaisSi muSaobis dawyeba SemTxveviTi fraza

ar iyo.

magram mTavari mizezi, ris gamoc Seir-

Ca 5 maisi, sul sxvaa.

saakaSvili mixvda (Zalian bevrjer gau-

meores da sxva gza ar hqonda, unda mimxv-

dariyo), rom aravin ar apirebs mis mier se-

riozuli konkurentis gzidan ukanonod Ca-

mocilebis mcdelobaze Tvalis da-

xuWvas. is, rom qeTrin eStonic da

obamas administraciac yuradRebiT

adevneben Tvals, moxdeba Tu ara

biZina ivaniSvilisaTvis absolu-

turad politikuri motiviT war-

Tmeuli moqalaqeobis dabruneba,

eWvs ar iwvevs. raoden ar unda

jiutobdes miSa, mas mainc mouwevs

am nabijze wasvla, rac gia nodiam

Tavidanve erTmniSvnelovnad Sec-

domad CauTvala mis sayvarel xelisufle-

bas. is erTaderTi fraza, roca prezident-

ma ivaniSvili axsena – ”ivaniSvili CvenTvis

kargia – formaSi yofnas gvaiZulebs!”, ukve

ukandaxevis aRiarebaa – sxvanairad warmo-

udgeneli cinizmia konkurentis aseT ”sar-

gebelze” saubari, Tu mas, yuriT moTreuli

mizeziT, politikur ringze ar uSveb.

magram miSa Seecdeba, rom moqalaqeobis

ganmeorebiT miniWeba (esec ukve gadawyveti-

li aqvT, rom swored ganmeorebiT mowyale-

bis moReba da ara – sakuTari Secdomis aRi-

areba) ise moxdes, rom ivaniSvils ar eyos

dro partiis struqturebis da normaluri

sareklamo kompaniis Casatareblad. amitom

Tebervlis dasawyisSi, rodesac saakaSvili

arCevnebis vadas daniSnavs, is gamoacxadebs,

rom mimdinareobs ivaniSvilisTvis moqalaqe-

obis aRdgenis sakiTxis iuridiuli proce-

durebis dazusteba, magram Tavad aqtis ga-

mocemas mxolod martSi, an sulac – ap-

rilSi moawers xels.

arCevnebis gadmotanis mizezi meore Tav-

satexia, razec nacmoZraobis tvinebSi TaT-

biri da Zieba grZeldeba. ise, yuradReba mi-

aqcieT CangalTsardal baqraZis mier gaxma-

urebul viTom umniSvnelo gancxadebas –

2012 wels ruseTi oms veRar daiwyebs, Za-

lian bevri fuli Cado olimpiadis obieqte-

bis mSeneblobaSio!!! – es olimpiadis imedad

yofna rames xom ar gagonebT axlo warsu-

lidan?!!! me piradad, Zalian cudad magonebs

im olimpiur simSvides, romliTac didi

soflebis aRebas gvamcnobda Cveni make-done-

li.

gadawyda isic, rom sagareo veqtori um-

niSvnelovanes mimarTulebad unda iqces,

Tumca aq jer kidev gaurkvevlobaa. adeiSvi-

li da bokeria Tvlian, rom ucxoel diplo-

matebTan muSaobis tvirTi swored bokeria-

ze unda gadavides, magram saakaSvili amas

ver egueba. mas ar unda daijeros, rom misi

saerTaSoriso didebis mze Caesvena. amitom

jer kidev cdilobs, rom meorexarisxovani

vizitebiT da sxvadasxva konferenciebze ga-

mosvlebiT da saqarTvelos fantasmagoriu-

li warmatebebis moyirWebuli gacveTili

frazebis kanonadiT, dasavlel liderebisT-

vis xelis CamorTmevis da miRebebze fotos

gadaRebis formiT isev aRidgens Zvel Sara-

vandeds. amitomac ecdeba, rom mxolod baq-

raZes da vaSaZes (rogorc dedofladgasvlis

ambavSi dasaWurisebul paikebs) andos saga-

reo vizitebi da gancxadebebi – aki dRes ki-

dec gaumxila vaSaZem mTel msoflios is,

risi aRiarebac saakaSvils katastrofulad

„rcxvenia“ – rom Turme mixeil saakaSvils

namdvilad ar aqvs gegmaSi premier-ministro-

ba! Zalian mainteresebs msoflioSi im lide-

ris an analitikosis aRmoCena, romelsac

sjera, rom saakaSvili Tavis gegmebs vaSaZes

andobs! vladimer sokori, sergei ilariono-

vi, rafael gluqsmani da sxva angaJirebuli

figurebi ar maqvs mxedvelobaSi – egeni, ra

Tqma unda, daujereben vaSaZes da saerTod

magaT mag gancxadebamdec ar eparebodaT eW-

vi, rom saakaSvili Tavis reputacias puti-

nis imitirebiT ar SebRalavda! netar arian

„morwmuneni“.

saSinao mimarTulebac dalagda – marTa-

lia, opoziciurad monaTluli agent enver-

2-is, anu erosi-2-is dezavuireba gaxda sa-

Wiro, magram ramdenadac xelisuflebam sa-

telitidan „maestros“ gaTiSva moaxerxa,

„maestros“ mflobelebsa da Jurnalistebs

nervebi seriozulad mouSala, maestrosaT-

vis licenziis CamorTmevis winapiroba Seqm-

na da am areulobaSi guriaTV-c gadasansla,

rogorc Cveni usafrTxoebis sabWos mdivani

ambobs, es gamarTlebuli Sewirva iyo.

saSinao piaris mTavari mimarTuleba

jandacva gaxda! arcerTi dRe saavadmyofos

gauxsnelad! zogjer dReSi 2 saavadmyofoc

ki ixsneba! vin muSaobs iq, vin mkurnalobs,

rogori fasebia?... – amas aravin kiTxulobs.

saerTod saavadmyofoebis gaxsna iseT aJio-

taJis, Tayvaniscemis da beladis winaSe me-

taniobis fonze midis, rom ivanovis

„ÿâëåíèå Õðèñòà íàðîäó“ monagonia!axali savadmyofoebi + axali aRmaSene-

beli + axali baTumi + lazika/evrika = go-

elro-s! anu stabilurobis oaziss krizi-

siT danTqmul da gaubedurebul mTel

msoflioSi! investorebo, mTeli qveynisa

SeerTdiT da mogrovdiT saqarTve-

los sazRvrebTan, sadac bademo-

marjvebuli gilauri da Tvaleba-

JuJunebuli vera dagxvdebian! pir-

veli mercxalic, saakaSvilis

mTavrobasTan Tavisi saxeliT war-

matebulad movaWre donaldic, uk-

ve Camodis!

garda damSeuli mosaxleobis

30-lariani vauCerebiT mosyidvis

mravalnacadi xerxisa (razec 24

milioni lari daixarjeba – TiT-

qosda, biznesis waxalisebis sa-

fuZvliT), ufro seriozuli geg-

mebic daigegma da xorcieldeba.

magaliTad, (kerZod, obamas administ-

raciis) sagareo mxardaWeris mosapoveb-

lad – avRaneTSi moxdeba pentagonis Ca-

nacvleba qarTuli sajariso SenaerTebiT!

warmogidgeniaT – obamam jarebi gaiyvana,

xolo miSa – qarTul SenaerTebs zrdis!

xom vicodiT, rom avRaneTs verc ruseTi

da verc amerika ver aaSenebdnenen sabo-

lood – ager, mainc Cvens imedad darCnen

avRanlebi! oRond skamze datovon da me-

ZuZur dedebs ar gaagzavnis miSa saom-

rad?! gaagzavnis! egec gamarTlebul Se-

wirvad CaiTvleba bokerias mxridan!

...da gemic micuravs!

mere ra, rom wyali lamis kiComdea, ka-

pitani gonze aRaraa, mezRvaurebi ixrCobi-

an, gembanze xanZari mZvinvarebs da maSvel

navebSi mxolod bobolebis ojaxebis adgi-

lia!.. mTavaria – orkestri isev ukravs,

Sampanuric iRvreba, himnic ismis, xalxi

mReris wagebul/mogebul omze da dakargul

teritoriebze, romelTa dabrunebasTan yve-

laze axlos swored exla varT, da ekran-

zec gadis lamazi filmi – lamaz qalaqeb-

ze, lamaz Sadrevnebze da lamaz momavalze,

romelic swored am xelisuflebam moigona,

dawera, dadga da, Tavadve daasamara.

P.S. Tumca, aris ori „Tumca“

a) 2003 wlis dasawyisSic msgav-

si gamarjvebis gegmebi hqondaT moqa-

laqeTa kavSiris mesveurebs, magram

is moxda, rasac aravin eloda – yve-

lafris msurvelma mTavrobam briS-

ti miiRo da rac mTavaria, ucxoeT-

ma ar „gauprava“ erTgul Sevardna-

Zes arCevnebi. Tu vinmes hgonia, rom

dRes saakaSvilis saerTaSoriso re-

itingi SevardnaZis 2003 wlis saerTaSori-

so reitings aRemateba, rac ufro didxans

egonebaT ase – miT ukeTesi!..

b) 2011 wlis wlis dasawyisSi arabuli

qveynebis despotebsac xelebs ukocnidnen,

„qveynis imeds“ uZaxdnen da yiJiniT mosdev-

dnen aseulebi, magram mere aRmoCndnen, rom

am aseulebis enTuziazms aTaseulebi da mi-

lionebi ar iziarebdnen da es ambavi kidev

ufro uaresad damTavrda.

saakaSvilma da nacmoZraobam kidec rom

moigos, mainc waageben.

da rac ufro gvian waageben, miT ufro

sazareli iqneba es wageba. ubedureba imaSia,

rom „umaRlesi mxedarTmTavris“ dangreuli

fsiqika ukve kontrols aRar eqvemdebareba.

adre deda iyo ukanaskneli tranqvilizato-

ri. axla ukve esec aRar Wris...

solomon Ternalipresage.tv

ibeWdeba mcireodeni SemoklebiT.

5/5 - da gemi micuravs...

saakaSvilma da nacmoZraobam kidec rom moigos, mainc waageben.da rac ufro gvian waageben, miT ufro sazareli iqneba es wageba.

Page 3: gogi TofaZe...ara, iyo msjelobebi da sxva variante-bic. yvelaze egzotikuri varianti iyo 14 oqtomberi (rac, formalurad mainc, saar-Cevno procesis dagegmil vadebSi Catarebas gulisxmobda),

3#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

imis gamo, rom ar arsebobda

oficialuri statistika, ramdeni

idioti cxovrobda saqarTveloSi

2003 wlis monacemebiT, maxsovs, im

dros gamomavalma erT-erTma gazeT-

ma gadawyvita sakuTari ZalebiT

SeZlebisdagvarad gamoeTvala maTi

ricxvi.

idiotebis ricxvi elviseburi

siswrafiT matulobda im xalxis

xarjze, romelTac sjerodaT, rom

mixeil saakiaSvili eduard Sevar-

dnaZis mteri iyo (an piriqiT), xo-

lo aw gardacvlili zurab Jvania

SevardnaZis Seurigebeli opozici-

oneri; im xalxis xarjze, romel-

Tac sjerodaT, rom sakrebulos

Tavmjdomaris savarZlis daTmoba

saakaSvilisTvis ar niSnavda mxo-

lod mTeli Tbilisis ki ara, mTe-

li saqarTvelos xelSi aRebas; im

xalxis xarjze, romelTac sjero-

daT, rom mixeil saakaSvili mdid-

rebs waarTmevda da Raribebs mis-

cemda...

amaswinaT, batonma zurab gagniZem

brZana, fsiqiuri aSliloba qarTve-

li erisTvis damaxasiaTebeli menta-

loba ar aris, magram axla es, sa-

erTo movlena gaxdao. ra gasakviria,

vinc idiotobidan srulad gamovida,

miixed-moixeda Semcivnulma, damSe-

ulma, dainaxa rac moitana misma da

misnairi idiotebis `miSa! miSas~

yvirilma, fsiqiuri aSliloba dae-

marTa. me davamatebdi, arc sklero-

zianobis maCvenebelia dabali-Tqo.

aba, rogor ar vifiqro ase, roca

liftebis da saxuravebis SekeTebiT

motyuebulebi axla Sadrevnebs da

asfalts Sehxarian, namdvilad sje-

raT saqarTvelos ekonomikuri wins-

vlisa da Sesabamisad, hgoniaT, rom

qveynis aRmSeneblobiT, mxolod sin-

gapurs Tu CamovrCebiT da, am wels

raRa iqneba, im wlis bolosTvis ma-

sac gadavuswrebTo.

`es parlamenti asaTianzea gada-

satani!~ _ gahyviroda cxonebuli

vaxtang goguaZe.

vin iyvnen parlamentSi im

dros? _ dRevandeli mmarTveli

gundi.

gemaxsovrebaT, leri gelenava

fsiqiatriul SemowmebasTan erTad

narkologiur Semowmebasac iTxov-

da. iqiT viRac proqtologis Care-

vis saWiroebasac xedavda.

isic gemaxsovrebaT, givi Targa-

maZe SeZlebisdagvarad rom afCenda

pirs, rogorc ki saakaSvili ius-

ticiis saministroSi mivida, pir-

velma Caabara sisxli narkologiur

Semowmebaze da mTelma saministrom

igive gaakeTao. amaze xalxi qirqi-

lebda, saakaSvils arc narkomano-

bas edaveba vinme da arc sxva

rameSia eWvmitanili, fsiqiatriu-

li Semowmeba gaiaroso. sxvebi epa-

suxebodnen, gavlili aqvs, axlidan

ratomRa gaiaros, sabuTi xelSi

uWiravs, ar etyoba rom giJiao? _

isinic qirqilebdnen.

batoni Temur mirianaSvili ise

daacxra Tavs saakaSvils yviriliT,

giJi xaro, eduard SevardnaZe ve-

Rar aSoSminebda, lamis Temurs Ca-

acves giJis perangi...

mokled, giJi iyo Tu ara, saa-

kaSvili sakrebulos Tavmjdomarec

iyo, iusticiis ministric da pre-

zidenticaa, Tanac, karga xania Tvi-

Ton qirqilebs mis ganmqiqeblebze,

giJebi Tqven xarTo...

isic gemaxsovrebaT, batoni

abel mamardaSvili (respublikuri

fsiqiatriuli saavadmyofos mTava-

ri eqimi) rom Sewuxebul-SeZrwu-

nebuli iyo misi yofili paciente-

bis politikur arenaze xilviT,

Tumca, profesiuli eTikidan gamom-

dinare maT vinaobas ar asaxelebda.

maSinve vikiTxe, vici, erTi ka-

cia eWvmitanili `giJobaSi~, danar-

Cenebi vinRa arian-meTqi? _ aravin

damikonkreta.

cxonebulma givi grigoliam

(fsiqiatri) miTxra, dReisaTvis 75

000 adamiania saqarTveloSi iseTi,

romelTa quCaSi siaruli kontro-

lis gareSe, safrTxes uqmnis nebis-

mier gamvlelso. es is kategoriaa,

romelsac mudmivad esaWiroeba eqi-

mis zedamxedveloba da medikamente-

bio, _ 2001 weli iyo...

isev batoni mamardaSvilis

sityvebi minda gavixseno, romelic

jer kidev 1997 wels Tqva: _ `ro-

desac erTmaneTs adareben parlamen-

tsa da sagiJeTs, gadaWarbebulad

sulac ar meCveneba, radgan, ar ar-

sebobs adamianTa iseTi dajgufeba,

sadac ramdenimes mainc ar hqondes

gadaxrili fsiqika... yvela norma-

luri azrovnebis rom iyos, arc

mtroba iqneboda, arc omi, arc eq-

scesebi~...

axla ra xdeba ar vici, magram

rac demokratiisken `srafva~ da-

viwyeT, rogorc maSin gavarkvie,

arCevnebis win, arcerT deputato-

bisa Tu prezidentobis kandidats

fsiqiatriuli Semowmeba ar gauv-

lia.

samwuxarod, ver vixseneb sru-

lad mis gvar-saxels, magram gaxma-

urebuli ambavia, _ aSS-Si erTer-

Ti saprezidento arCevnebisas, erT-

erTma prezidentobis kandidatma

kiTxvaze: _ `ra damokidebuleba

gaqvT fsiqiatrTan?~ _ upasuxa: _

`mxolod orjer mqonda fsiqiatr-

Tan viziti, imitom, rom uZiloba

mawuxebda~. Cveni sazomiT amgvar

umtkivneulo aRiarebaze imxela

xmauri atexa aSS-is masmediam, rom

prezidentobis maZiebelma saswra-

fod moxsna Tavisi kandidatura.

am gaxsenebaze is kadrebi gamax-

senda, `rusTavi-2-Si~ miwveuli sa-

akaSvili Jurnalist gogonebs rom

eWylopineboda raRac uazrobebs da

damaxasiaTebeli kiskisiT karebis

gaxurvisTanave erTma meores rom

uTxra xiTxiTiT, au, es marTla ra

magari giJiao da... interviu Camo-

arTves.

ukvirT, ratom uyvars

baton mixeils brWyviala

gasarTobebio, _ brWyvia-

li bavSvebs, kaWkaWs da

fsiqiurad aSlilebs uy-

varT. batoni mixeili,

asakidan gamomdinare, bavSvi rom ar

aris, faqtia; miuxedavad caSi na-

vardis siyvarulisa, kaWkaWic ar

aris; verc imas vityvi rom giJia,

radgan, veWvob, giJi arasdros ity-

vis: _ `qveynis pirveli giJi var da

simarTles yovelTvis vityvi!~

kargad maxsovs misi sityvebi,

romelic `kurierSi~ Tqva isteri-

uli qadiliT, cocxlad davmarxav

yvelaso da Seasrula; amjerad,

droebiT bolo imitom, rom anak-

liasa da yulevs Soris axali qa-

laqis aSeneba ganuzraxavs, lazika

erqmevao da Tan sadRacidan 500

000 kacis Casaxlebasac apirebs

axal lazikaSi _ da Seasrulebs,

radgan misnairebma akviateba ician.

misTvis ra mniSvneloba aqvs, is

500 000 kaci vin iqneba, Cineli,

e.w Turqi mesxi, indoeli Tu buri,

mTavaria akviatebas daikmayofi-

lebs, aba, 500 000 Casasaxlebeli

qarTveli saidan unda gamoCekos?

axla ukve darwmunebiT SemiZlia

vTqva, rom abel mamardaSvilis

marTlac araerTi yofili pacienti

yofila politikur sarbielze.

isic marTali yofila, rom adamian-

Ta jgufSi warmoudgenelia ramde-

nime gadaxrili fsiqikis ar iyos,

_ eseni xom `erTi gundi~ arian Ta-

vis liderianad; eseni xom gundu-

rad angreven saqarTvelos da gun-

duradve aSeneben wyalwasaReb ra-

Rac xidebs, gundurad apirkeTeben

Senobis mxolod fasadebs, gundu-

rad moswonT quTaisi, baTumi, siR-

naRi Tu mestia, gundurad dadian

yvelgan da gunduradve gahyvirian,

Cven erTi gundi varTo...

dadga dro, gavarkvioT, mainc

ramdeni fsiqiurad aSlilia 2011

wlis dekembris monacemebiT saqar-

TveloSi?

imdeni, ramdensac kidev sjera

mixeilis zRaprebis; amas damatebu-

li imdeni, ramdensac kidev sjera,

rom isini, vinc yvelaze xmamaRla

yvirian, rom opozicionerebi arian,

marTla opozicionerebi arian; im-

deni, ramdenic ori groSis fasad

Tavs ityuebs da miSas gundis sa-

sargeblod aRiarebs, rom bednie-

rad cxovrobs; imdeni, ramdensac

saqarTvelo fexebze hkidia da am-

bobs qarTveli varo, imdeni... _ Za-

lian, Zalian bevri imdeni...

maia WeliZe

mainc ramdeni giJiasaqarTveloSi?

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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4 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria

respublikelebis erT-eerTi li-

deri levan berZeniSvili.

_ administraciuli resur-

sis, saarCevno garemos, saSinao

viTarebis, sagareo politikis

gaTvaliswinebiT am opoziciur

gaerTianebas, romelic xeli-

suflebis alternativaa, aqvs

gamarjvebis Sansi.

Cvenc swored aqedan amovdi-

varT: viTvaliswinebT, rasac Ca-

idens xelisufleba... rac SeiZ-

leba man Caidinos, amisda miu-

xedavad, mainc vapirebT gamarj-

vebas. es imitom, rom seriozu-

lad gvaqvs xalxis mxardaWeris

imedi.

_ mereda,es saxelisuflebo

arxebi Tqven survilsa da

moTxovnebs gaiTvaliswineben?

_ arCevnebis win televizi-

ebma uari Tqvan debatebze, es

niSnavs, uari Tqvan fulze da

reklamaze. Tuki televizias

aravin uyurebs, maSin iq xom

adgili ar eqneba saakaSvilis

gandidebas? amitom am televi-

ziebSi debatebi gaCndeba, magram

gaCndeba ufro gvian, vidre ad-

re, rogorc maT es sCveviaT.

Tumca Cven visargeblebT im

patara xvrelebiTac ki, romle-

bic gaCndeba am televiziebSi.

imedi gvaqvs, rom cota ufro

vrclad viqnebiT warmodgenili

pirvel arxze, vidre es moxde-

ba `rusTavi-2~-ze da `imedze~,

magram kidev vimeoreb, patara

televiziebi, maT Soris isini,

romlebic mauwyebloben mTel

saqarTveloze, vTqvaT `maest-

ro~- Tbilisze da regionebze,

magaliTad, `kavkasia~... amave

dros, regionalur televizeb-

zec gavalT, rogoric aris

`25-e arxi~-baTumSi, rogoric

aris `hereTi~ da a.S. da a.S.

yvelafriT visargeblebT, sadac

ki SeiZleba Cveni gamoCena.

_ televiziebTan mimarTeba-

Si ar SemiZlia upasuxod dav-

tovo is kampania, rasac e.w.

`saxelisufleboebma~ `qarTuli

ocnebis~ prezentaciis dros

mimarTes: am nacisturma arxeb-

ma qarTuli inteligencia daZ-

velebul saxeebad moixsenes...

_ nacionalur moZraobas

xels ar unda aZlevdes daZve-

lebul saxeebze laparaki, rad-

gan maTi problema swored ama-

Sia: maT dauZveldaT preziden-

ti. amoewura vada da wasvla ar

unda. Zveli vin aris, gamosacv-

leli da naftalinSi Casadebi,

CvenTvis cnobilia.

ramdeni, ityvian Zveli saxe-

ebio, imdenjer moqalaqeebi

CvenTan erTad igulisxmeben, ma-

galiTad, mixeil maWavarians,

romelic SevardnaZesTan erTad

ramdenime aTeuli welia ukve

politikaSia... magaliTad, mixe-

il saakaSvils, romelic ukve

oci welia, ar Sordeba poli-

tikur arenas. miTumetes, ukve

TiTqmis 10 welia, rac prezi-

dentia da a.S. amitom Zveli sa-

xeebis mocileba rom unda

xalxs, imitom moswons axali

saxe-ivaniSvili.

_ batono levan, ra prob-

lemebi SeiZleba Seeqmnas

opozicias?

_ rodesac xelisuflebas

TbilisSi xmas aZlevs 26% da

romelime raionSi 99%-ia es

maCvenebli-ukve problemaa Cven-

Tvisac, TqvenTvisac da patios-

nebisTvisac. 26% Tu gaqvs Tbi-

lisSi, ratom unda gqondes

99% marneulSi, miSaa? ra ase-

Ti auSene da gaukeTe marne-

uls? maTTvis xom aravis ara-

feri gansakuTrebuli gaukeTe-

bia? ese igi, imas niSnavs, rom

iq patiosani kenWisyra ar mim-

dinareobs. amitom Cven Sevecde-

biT, rom swored marneulSi,

javaxeTSi da sxva aseT adgi-

lebSi SevideT da aseve vizru-

noT imaze, rom maT siaSi ar

aRmoCndes romelime qarTuli

regioni.

_ Tumca arc am mxriv aris

saqme mainc da mainc kargad,

radgan opozicia, dameTanxmebiT

da samegrelosac e.w. proble-

mur regionad miiCnevs, ra aris

amis mizezi da ras apirebT am

tendenciis gamosasworeblad?_

_ diax. geTanxmebiT. vfiq-

rob, sakmaod didi samuSao gv-

aqvs samegreloSi. rogorc Cans,

iq ufro iolad daTeses SiSi,

es aris batoni axalias faqto-

ri, es aris xelisuflebis gan-

sakuTrebuli interesis faqto-

ri...

Torem, Cven erTnairebi varT

qarTvelebi yvelgan: samegre-

loSi, guriaSi, imereTSi da sa-

dac gnebavT... mixeil saakaS-

vils samegreloSi sakmaod ma-

Rali reitingi aqvs garkveuli

mizezebis gamo. ar unda dagva-

viwydes, rom samegrelom is

aRiqva misi saqmis gamkeTeblad,

roca SevardnaZe iqna damxobi-

li. SevardnaZes mxedrionisa da

im samoqalaqo dapi-

rispirebis gamo sa-

megreloSi Zalian

dabali reitingi hq-

onda. gasagebia, rom

mixeil saakaSvili

jer ezizRebodaT

samegreloSi, ro-

gorc SevardnaZis

yma da SvilisTvis

eduardis damrqmevi

da mere Seiyvares,

rogorc eduardis

Camomgdebi da imis

ganmmartebeli, rom

Svils SevardnaZis

gamo ki ara, aramed simamris ga-

mo davarqvi eduardio. Seicva-

la damokidebuleba da is gmi-

rad iTvleboda. Cvenc SegviZ-

lia es viTareba gamovcaloT,

radgan mixeil saakaSvilma amo-

wura Tavisi Sansebi da SesaZ-

leblobebi mTel saqarTvelo-

Si, maT Soris, samegreloSi,

amitom iqac vimuSavebT.

_ rasac xelisuflebasTan

mebrZoli Zalebi gvpirdebian,

SesaZloa, amgvari forulirebi-

Tac gamovxatoT _ Tu ginda

mSvidoba, emzade omisTviso...

es arCevnebi mRelvarebis gare-

Se, albaT, ar Caivlis da ram-

denad mosalodnelia xmebis da-

sacavad saxalxo gamosvlebis

organizeba?

_ principuli sakiTxia: xe-

lisuflebas arCevnebiT

vcvliT, Tu arCevnebis gareSe.

arCevnebiT Secvla gulisxmobs

yvelafers. maT Soris, im Sem-

TxvevaSi, Tu xelisufleba ar-

Cevnebis Sedegebs ar aRiarebs,

uaryofs, gaayalbebs, maSin mo-

salodnelia yvela xerxiT ar-

Cevnebis Sedegebis dacva. es iq-

neba quCis aqciebi da a.S. da a.S.

ubralod, Cven migvaCnia, rom

quCis aqciebiT xelisufleba ar

unda SevcvaloT, magram es ar

niSnavs, rom arsenalidan amovi-

RoT romelime saSualeba, ro-

melic dagvWirdeba xmebis dasa-

cavad.

xmebis dasacavad mivmarTavT

yvela nebdarTul xerxs. erTa-

derTi, rac minda giTxraT: Ta-

vi da Tavi aris arCevnebi da iq

gamarjveba. Cven Tu arCevnebSi

gavimarjveT, mere saakaSvili

mogvcems am gamarjvebas, Tu ar

mogvcems, Cven mas mainc avi-

RebT. anu gamarjvebuli Tu vi-

qeniT, xalxma Tu mogvca xma,

Cven am xmebs ar davkargavT da

amis iluzia nuravis eqneba,

rom Cven movugebT 20:0-s da

ityvian, Tqven waageTo-ara, ase

ver moxdeba. yvelaferi gakeT-

deba imisTvis, rom es xmebi da-

vicvaT.

_ anu amjerad aRar imoqme-

debs SiSis sindromi da xalxi

xmebis dasacavad gamova? amis

imedi arsebobs?_

_ warmoidgineT, Tqven mie-

ciT xma biZina ivaniSvils... da-

viTvaleT es xmebi Tqven moigeT

da mere geubnebian, me Seni az-

ri fexebze mkidia, moige, magram

mainc waageo..ra Tqma unda, xal-

xi daicavs Tavis xmas da Cvenc

davicavT xalxs. xalxi da Cven

erTad davicvaT gamarjvebas. Tu

xalxi xmas iZleva, is gulsac

iZleva da xmis damcvelic aris.

Tuki wavageT da xalxs da-

vabraleT-ki mogvces, magram

gagviyalbeso, magram am dros

realurad ar mouciaT xma, ma-

Sin xalxi ar gamova.

_ sxvaTaSoris, sul axla-

xan Tqvenma Zmam, daviT berZe-

niSvilma sakmaod saintereso

kiTxva dasva: aqvs Tu ara kaxa

benduqiZesa da prezidentis bi-

Zas Temur alasanias, ruseTis

moqalaqeoba?

_ axla saqarTvelos prezi-

dentma rom biZina ivaniSvils

ukanonod da rac mTavaria, gau-

azreblad da panikaSi Cavard-

nilma CamoarTva moqalaqeoba-es

sruliad naTelia. imitom rom,

xelisuflebis iseTi momxreebi,

rogoricaa gia nodia da viRa-

cebi... amboben, rom es ar iyo

Wkvianuri saqcieli. Semcdari

xelisufleba aRelda Zalian,

Secda, magram, rogorc Zveli

romaelebi gvaswavlian: Secdo-

ma adamianuria, araadamianuri

da suleluri aris-SecdomaSi

gajiuteba.

mixeil saakaSvili Secda-ga-

sagebia, axla unda gamoasworos

Tavisi Secdoma da aRudginos

biZina ivaniSvils moqalaqeoba,

Tu amas ar gaakeTebs, es niS-

navs, rom igi Tavis SecdomaSi

gajiutdeba. Sesabamisad, yovel-

Tvis darCeba kiTxva _ rogor,

kaco? alasanias-ruseTis gene-

rals, fsb-s generals, ekuTvnis

saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba, kaci

ruseTis interesebs icavda gae-

roSi da ar ekuTvnis es biZina

ivaniSvils, romelmac yvela

qarTuli Zeglis aRdgenaze iz-

runa? es gaugebaric iqneba da

usindisobac.

mixeil saakaSvili am moqa-

laqeobas xom `upragonod~ ari-

gebs? saqarTvelos moqalaqeoba

aqvs magaliTad, naxevar ukrai-

nas...da Zalian bevrs aqvs. gvit-

rialeben am qarTul paspor-

tebs, aqaoda, xom gvaCuqeTo.

amerikelebs aZleven, Cinelebs

aZleven....visac gauxardebaT yve-

las.

da qarTvels moqalaqeoba

waarTva? Tan iseT adamians, ro-

melic daibada aq, gaizarda aq,

mTeli cxovreba rasac miaRwia,

Tavisi qveynisTvis zrunvas mo-

axmara... Zalian arasworia da

Sesabamis politikur pasuxsac

miiRebs. amitom mixeil saakaS-

vilisTvis ufro sasargebloa

aRudginos moqalaqeoba, vidre

ar aRudginos.

axla vnaxoT, Tu is ver ga-

akeTebs swor daskvnas, miiRebs

Zalian swor pasuxs qarTveli

xalxisgan. yvela dRe, roca ar

ubrunebs moqalaqeobas, aris

dakarguli mixeil saakaSvilis-

Tvis da miniWebuli biZina iva-

niSvilisTvis. me darwmunebuli

var, rom gaerkveva amaSi yvela

da qarTvel xalxs es ar SeeS-

leba.

rac Seexeba ruseTTan urTi-

erTobas...me pirdapir getyviT:

qarTveli xalxis moTxovna

aris ruseTTan urTierTobebis

daregulireba.

mixeil saakaSvili ruseTTan

urTierTobas ver da ar daare-

gulirebs, am dros qarTveli

xalxis moTxovnaa daareguli-

ro. Tu Cemi ar gjeraT, Caixe-

deT gamokiTxvebSi. xalxi iTx-

ovs amas. Sesabamisad, xalxi si-

namdvileSi iTxovs, saakaSvili

ar iyoso...

_ ese igi, ruseTTan urTi-

erTobis daregulirebis qveteq-

sti saakaSvilis gadayenebaa?-

_ ra Tqma unda, rodesac

xalxis ZiriTad masa ambobs _

rac ufro bevrjer dauZaxebssaakaSvili ruseTis agents

biZina ivaniSvils, miT ufro met xmas miiRebs ivaniSvili...

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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5saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

daaregulire urTierToba ru-

seTTan da mere ekiTxebi, saa-

kaSvils SeuZlia es da _ ara,

ar SeuZliao gpasuxobs....nu, ax-

la orjer oris angariSi yve-

las SegviZlia.

molaparakeba ar iqneba

iolia magram Cven Sansi gvaqvs,

mixeil saakaSvils Sansi ar

aqvs. me aseve minda moveswro im

pirvel nabijebs, romelsac sa-

qarTvelo evrokavSirisken ga-

dadgams, es SesaZlebelia, mag-

ram mixeil saakaSvilTan erTad

es aris gamoricxuli. da imi-

tom ki ara, rom ar unda... mi-

Sas Zalianac unda saqarTvelo

natosa da evrokavSirSi, ubra-

lod, aseTi mmarTvelobis pi-

robebSi gamoricxulia an nato,

an evrokavSiri. amdeni tyui-

lis, amdeni yalbi dapirebis da

amdeni sisulelis, magaliTad,

lazikis- am sisulelis Semdeg

natoSi ar gvelodebian.

_ saakaSvilis axali proeq-

ti `lazika~ axseneT, rogorc

mivxvdi, TvliT, rom es gaday-

rili fulia?_

_ ara, me vTvli, rom fuli

ar gadaiyreba da arc araferi

gakeTdeba. me vTvli, rom es ga-

dayrili sityvebia da ra Tqma

unda, araferi gakeTdeba. Tu

petre pirvels baZavs da Waob-

Si aSenebs... man aaSena qalaqi,

romelsac hqonda funqcia. is

unda gamxdariyo ruseTis mTava-

ri qalaqi da gaxda kidec, mTa-

varic da deda-qalaqic da ru-

seTis fanjara evropaSi da a.S.

ori momentia: mixeil saa-

kaSvili petre pirveli ar

aris. hgavs mxolod erTi niS-

niT-aris tanmaRali. meti ra

aqvs petre pirvelTan saerTo?

masaviT reformatorobiT ver

daikvexnis. petre pirveli ho-

landiaSi colis mosayvanad ki

ar wavida_durgloba da mSeneb-

loba iswavla. petre pirveli,

rom yofiliyo mixel saakaSvi-

li saqarTvelos sanaosnos

aRadgenda, gemebs gaakeTebda,

rac petre pirvelma gaakeTa.

mixeil saakaSvili istori-

uli Sedarebis TvalsazrisiT,

petre pirvelTan da aTaTurq-

Tan Sesadarebeli kaci ar aris.

me vici, visac unda Sevadaro.

yvelaze metad saa-kaSvili misTvis sa-Zulvel aslan abaSi-Zes hgavs. mere ra, romis dabali iyo da es ma-Ralia? mainc imas hg-avs, imasac aseTi `ime-di~ da `rusTavi-2~ hq-onda, televizia `aWa-ra~ hyavda analogiurmdgomareobaSi. imasacase ver ubedavdnen si-marTlis Tqmas Tavi-sianebi da isic milio-nebs xarjavda sakuTa-ri xuSturebis dasak-mayofileblad.

masac zustad ise Semoefcq-

vna xelSi sakuTari qveyana, ro-

gorc amas. imanac iseTi vneba

moutana saqarTvelos aWaris

izolirebiT, rogoric mixeil

saakaSvilma saqarTvelos afxa-

zeTisgan da oseTisgan izoli-

rebiT. ase rom, yvelaze metad

mas hgavs, istoriaSic ver Seva

petre pirvelis da didi re-

formatoris saxeliT. imitom

rom, mixeil saakaSvili aris

kaci, romelmac Tqva, albaT,

erT sul mosaxleze yvelaze

meti tyuili msoflio poli-

tikosebTan SedarebiT.

_ batono levan, am bolo

dros intensiurad vrceldeba

informacia, rom nacionalebi

gadmodian Tqven rigebSi, yove-

li SemTxvevisTvis, iTxoven

amas, ramdenad realuria es ga-

nacxadi?_

_ informacia gvaqvs, saxe-

lebi da gvarebi ara, anu aris

tendencia, rogorc Cans da

aris amaze bevri laparaki, mag-

ram jerjerobiT, arc erTi ase-

Ti seriozuli nabiji-didma na-

cionalma rom datova Tavisi

partia xmauriT da miajaxuna

kari, ara gvaqvs. marTali giTx-

raT, am procesis imedad ar

var. es procesi ki, aucileb-

lad iqneba, magram igi arafers

Secvlis.

Cvens rigebSi misaRebi naci-

onalebi pirvel eSelonebSi ar

arian, anu bokeriam, magaliTad,

axla rom gadaiWras venebi da

Tqvas: ariqa, me, opoziciaSi

gavrbivaro. wavides, sadac unda

iq irbinos, Cvens rigebSi boke-

riebis, adeiSvilebis, merabiS-

vilebis da... nu, axla, pirveli

eSelonis nacionalebis adgili

ar aris, magram Tuki vinme

gulwrfelad mixvdeba, araswor

saqme emsaxureboda, CvenTan ar

mova `respublikelebSi~, magram

Cveni koaliciis romelime par-

tiaSi Tu miva, verafer prob-

lemas, me aq ver vxedav. gaaCnia

vin aris, ra aris da ra gauke-

Tebia?

me imis mTqmeli ar var, rom

nacionalur moZraobaSi yvela

cudi adamiania. ra sisulelea,

ra Tqma unda, respublikur

partiaSi iqneba erTi, ori cu-

di adamiani da nacionalur moZ-

raobaSi iqneba erTi, ori kargi

adamiani, es Cveulebrivi proce-

sia.

anu, amiT imis Tqma minda,

yvelas aqvs Sansi. rogorc

qristianoba ambobs, ukanasknel

wams SeiZleba cxondes adamia-

ni. `politikuri qristianoba~

geubnebaT, rom nacionaluri

moZraobis romelime rigiT, an

saSualo rgolis wevrs didi

Sansi aqvs datovos Tavisi

partia da ipovos axali par-

tia.

_ise, amboben, amitomac Ca-

moarTva mTavarma nacionalma

ivaniSvils moqalaqeobao. anu

ufro Tavisianebis dasaSineb-

lad moqmedebda?_

_marTali giTxraT, gulub-

ryvilo kacia mixeil saakaSvi-

li. im momentSi, roca moqala-

qeobas arTmevda ubralod, ar

icoda ra eqna, patara bavSviviT

iyo gabrazebuli da nawyeni.

emociebs ahyva.

xolo lao-Zim gvaswavla

2500 wlis win Tu ginda dai-

naxo sagani, unda gaTavisuflde

emociebisgan, Tu emociebiT

uyureb sagans, xedav konturebs

da Tu ginda sagani mTlianad

dainaxo, unda dacarielde emo-

ciebisgan.

emociurad ar unda emoqmeda

saakaSvils. unda CaesunTqa,

aTamde daeTvala, gadaetana es

ambavi, ar CamoerTva moqalaqeo-

ba, aramed momzadebuliyo mas-

Tan debatebisTvis.

xom aris is gamocdili po-

litikosi? xom amtkicebs, rom

msoflio donis politikosia...

xom amtkicebs imas, rom mixeil

saakaSvili aris politikis ge-

niosi da es aris axalgamoCeki-

li viRac diletanti...gamoiwvi-

os ra, debatebSi da gaacamtve-

ros satelevizio debatebSi:

gamocdili politikosi saakaS-

vili anadgurebs gamoucdel

ivaniSvils da amTavrebs am sa-

kiTxs.

rad unda amdeni nerviulo-

ba? arada, imitom ar unda de-

batebi, rom waagebs.

imitom rom, aranairi ga-

mocdileba man ver miiRo. ai, me

getyviT, risi gamocdileba mii-

Ro saakaSvilma xelisufleba-

Si: rom aravin gaakritikebs,

rom yvelas daiWers, yvelani

cixeSi.... meti ra gamocdileba

miiRo? politikuri debatebi

iswavla? politikuri opozi-

cia gavanadgureo, amiT traba-

xobda kaci. nebismieri saxelm-

wifo moRvawe unda iyos dain-

teresebuli, rom qveyanas hyav-

des Zlieri opozicia. dRes Sen

xar, xval-opoziciaa da qveyana

hgiebs aw da maradis, ukuniTi

ukunisamde, amaze rogor ar un-

da fiqrobdes? magram, saakaSvi-

li sxvanairad fiqrobs. is fiq-

robs, rom qveyana kargia, manam

sanam saakaSvilia da Tu miSa

ar iqneba `direqtori~, maSin es

qveyanac nu iqneba, ra proble-

maa?aseTi martivi, pirutyvuli

egoizmi Sors ver waiyvans qve-

yanas. marTali giTxraT, es am-

bavi-sainkasacio manqanis mopar-

vis, pirdapir metyvelebs am xe-

lisuflebis sacodaobaze, kar-

gi, manqana moipare, moipare, ma-

Sin gaasamarTle ra, es xalxi...

raRac hqeni. irkveva, rom uda-

naSaulo iyo es xalxi, irkveva,

rom araviTari gaTeTreba ar

yofila. imitom rom... aba, sad

aris axla?...aha, velode-

biT...roca maT undaT erT dRe-

Si gamoiZieben-xolme da es ra

aseTi rTuli sakiTxi iyo? ban-

kidan banks gamohqonda Tavisi

kuTvnili fuli da iTqva, rom

Zalian mZime danaSaulia-gaaTeT-

res da a.S.

_ am sasamarTlos pirobeb-

Sic ki ver edavebian?

_vera. me am sasamarTlos

pirobebSi xom gamomacxada mi-

xeil saakaSvilma ruseTis agen-

tad? `SnuriT~ aris mibmuli

ruseTis saelCozeo, ase Tqva.

ratom ver gamasamarTla, Tun-

dac am sasamarTloTi? Tu ru-

seTis agenti, jaSuSi da mibmu-

li viyavi, ratom mabogineben

amdens da ager kidev preziden-

tis kritikas vbedav da mis in-

tleqtze uaryofiT azrebs ga-

movTqvam# ,davcini mas, magali-

Tad, rodesac wera-kiTxva eS-

leba-xolme da Z-s da x-s, ro-

ca aurevs xolme.

magaliTad, misi gancxadeba

maqvs wakiTxuli Cemodani, rom

dakarga aeroportSi. visac es

gancxadeba gvinaxavs... Z-s da x-

s urevs, wertili ar icis, mZi-

me ar icis, wera-kiTxva ar icis

kacma. saerTod, ar xmarobs

punqtuaciis niSnebs da es ga-

moqveynebuli iyo `literatu-

rul saqarTveloSi~ _ mixeil

saakaSvilis faqsimile, misi xe-

liT dawerili gancxadeba.

pirvel klasSi maseTebs vag-

debT klasidan... vayenebT kuTxe-

Si.

da roca vici, rom aseTia

da roca vbedav amaze laparaks

me, ruseTis agenti, ratom ar

var gasamarTlebuli?

dResac ivaniSvils raSi

edeba brali? rom ruseTis ka-

cia? ukacravad, es ranairi da-

naSaulia?kargi, vTqvaT, daumt-

kica Tavis momxreebs, rom ru-

seTis proeqtiao, es ase ar

aris, magram dauSvaT da daumt-

kica, mere ra xdeba? vis elapa-

rakeba amas? saqarTveloSi aris

xalxi, visac unda ruseTTan

urTierTobis gaumjobeseba. ra-

xan mixeil saakaSvils ar SeuZ-

lia, visac SeuZlia, ginda pro-

eqti daarqvi da ginda Tengizi,

ra mniSvneloba aqvs amas? mainc

is miiRebs xmebs.

sinamdvileSi, ar aris ruse-

Tis proeqti, magram sasargeb-

lo ar aris miSasTvis ivaniS-

vils kremlis produqti uwo-

dos. saakaSvilisTvis sasargeb-

lo iqneboda imisTvis epova ra-

me kompromati, ver poulobs da

gviyveba am zRaprebs.

9 welia, ruseTSi ar yofi-

la kaci da aris ruseTis pro-

eqti?

ivaniSvili rom ruseTis ka-

ci ar aris, iqedan viciT: nel-

nela, sanam es laparaki mimdi-

nareobda, jer gadazida Tavisi

kapitali ruseTidan ucxoeTSi,

axla mxolod erTi mesamedia

misi kapitalisa ruseTSi da

ori mesamedi ucxoeTSi, saqar-

TveloSi ar aris, radgan aq

aravis araferi kapitali ar

ainteresebs. garda amisa, hyidis

Tavis kapitals ruseTSi da

xom xvdebiT, aseT dros, Seda-

rebiT iafad iyideba. ruseTis

kaci rom yofiliyo ratom ver

gayidda aqamde?

ruseTis kaci vinc iyo, iman

pirdapir ruseTis mTavar orga-

nizacias mihyida Tavisi qoneba,

magaliTad, benduqiZem. ra prob-

lemaa? vinmem rame sayveduri

uTxra benduqiZes? da mixeil

saakaSvils vinmem xma ar misca

imis gamo, rom benduqiZe hyavda

ministrad Tu ra? saqarTvelo-

Si arasodes ar iTvleboda gan-

sakuTrebul danaSaulad rusu-

li faqtori da Cveni ar aris

ruseTis kaci da ra vqnaT? vinc

aris, xom iciT? miSas biZa Te-

mur alasania. TviTon miSa izr-

deboda ruseTis kacad. yvelaze

meti agenti.. .yvelaze meti San-

si, yvelaze ufro `saagento~

periodSi-axalgazrdoba, oqros

wlebi gaatara ruseTSi imperi-

is mTavar teritoriaze. hoda,

iciT ra? ar uSvelis eg ambavi

mixeil saakaSvils, Torem ram-

denic unda imdeni ilaparakos.

unda xelebdakapi-webulma iSromos, ir-binos xalxSi da umt-kicos, rom is kargia,Torem ivaniSvili ru-sisaa da ityvis kaxeT-Si viRac marTla dai-jerebs da miscems xmasivaniSvils, iqneb CveniRvino gayidos ruseT-Sio.

aseve miscemen xmas saqarTve-

los sxva kuTxeebSic, Torem

ruseTis bazari ar vargao, am

tyuils saqarTveloSi xom ara-

vin daijerebs, melasi ar iyos,

Tavi rom daimSvida _ `mkvaxe

iyo is yurZeni da momkveTda

kbilebsao~, aRiaron, rom ruse-

Tis bazridan gamogvagdes, To-

rem bazari uwindeburad mim-

zidvelia TiToeuli saxelmwi-

fosTvis. xolo uvargisi rom

yofiliyo, mTeli msoflio kr-

emlis mso-Si gawevrianebisTvis

ar izrunebda da ar gairjebo-

da.

naTia nodia

yvelaze metad saakaSvilimisTvis saZulvel aslan abaSiZes hgavs, mere ra, rom is dabali iyo da es

maRalia? mainc imas hgavs

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axali qalaqi Sendeba...

lazika!

sawinaaRmdego ra unda mqon-

des!

xom metyvian, aSenebs, xom ar

angrevso?!

vfiqrob, ufro dids da ma-

radiuls angrevs...

es saqarTvelos dangrevaa!

mivyveT Tanmimdevrulad...

yvelam icis, kolxeTis dab-

lobi rTuli geologiuri dab-

lobia. bolSevikebmac Waobs da-

vaSrobT, win ra dagvidgebao,

magram wylis nayva rom iyo, ma-

le mixvdnen da Tavi anebes.

miwisqveSa qanebi sustia da

Warbteniani, specialuri konst-

ruqciebi da miliardebia saWi-

ro, qalaqi daamagro _ amboben

qarTveli specialistebi. ar vi-

ci, iaponelebi ras ityvian...

isini qalaqs Sua zRvaSi aSene-

ben da raRacas moifiqreben, mag-

ram ra dajdeba, daTvala vinmem?

Tu dolarebs ciur mananasaviT

cidan velodebiT. kargi, specia-

listebs ar usmenen... xalxi _

ra sakiTxavia, vis axsovs? Tavi-

anTi mokle gamocdilebiT mainc

Sexedon _ aeroporti ver ga-

dagvixuravs, yovel Semodgoma-

gazafxulze qari Rera-Rera

Slis da miafrens saxuravs... an

erT dRes zRvaSi Caxvetili

dagvxvdes anakliis xidiviT

dagvemxos, Tavze muyaos Tu qvi-

Sis qalaqi, maSin ras gvetyvian?

eWvi geparebaT, rom waiRebs?

kiTxvis damsmelic rom aravinaa

zeviT? vTqvaT, gaigiJes Tavi

`beye~ goroziam an didma mSene-

belma nikoleiSvilma (meti araa

Cemi mteri!) da ar SeiZlebao,

Tqves... orive xom aRmoCndeba

niCabze... xelisuflebaze vambob,

Torem opozicia da xalxi niCab-

ze hyavs da Carecxilic Cvens

prezidents.

gamosavali is aris: moviqce-

viT, rogorc viqceviT es rva

weliwadi. wagebuli oms mogebu-

lad vacxadebT, lamis msoflio

davajeroT da ra moxda, vity-

viT: putini iqneba, ar iqneba, vi-

Raca xom iqneba... viRaca xom iq-

neba mis adgilas da imas davab-

ralebT. fiCoridan gadmoipara

rusi desanti, zRvis wyali (ma-

riliani) gagviria duRabSi da

SevrcxviTo! mTavaria, desanti

daviWireT, evropa da amerika

Cven gviWers mxarso!

me kidev, rogorc am kuTxis

Svils, Cemi dardic maqvs.

vaSenebT anaklias!

me vin mkiTxavs, magram ro-

gorc megrels ar mWirdeba

litvis Tu estoneTis yofili

prezidentis prospeqti anaklia-

Si. me mWirdeba, vTqvaT, iq daba-

debuli kacis, filosofosis,

poetis, ukvdavi megruli `Ce-

las~ avtoris _ pavle akobias

quCa...

galaktionis erTi Canaweri

maxsendeba: Sevedi aleqsandro-

vis baRSi, davinaxe, pavle ako-

bia, nabadmosxmuli, TeTri wve-

riT, skamis kuTxeSi mimjdari

raRacas Wamdao. me rom damina-

xa, Sercxva da wamodgao... bo-

los askvnis: `ra zrdilobiania

megreli kacio!~... adamkuss ara-

fers verCi, magram me Cemi pav-

le akobia ufro metad miRirs...

ar vici, wina fraza qsenofobi-

aSi rom ar CamomerTvas, `gamoc-

dil qsenofobs~, baton robert

sturuas davekiTxebodi, magram

sad vnaxo?... isev Jurnal `tabu-

las~ redaqtors (CorgoleiS-

vils) xom ar davumesijo da

azri vkiTxo...

`wina gvaqvs didi mSeneblo-

bebi da Zalian TavzexelaRebu-

li gegmebio~-o, zustad ase da-

amTavra satelevizio gamosvla

prezidentma, roca axali qala-

qis mSeneblobaze gvauwya. `Tav-

zexelaRebuli~ da `mamali gi-

Ji~ roa, karga xania, darwmune-

buli var, me sxva ubedureba ma-

laparakebs.

cnobilia, rom 1999wels evropis sabWoSigawevrianebisas qar-

Tulma mxarem ikisravaldebuleba, rom 1944wels saqarTvelodangasaxlebul Turq-mes-xebs 2012 wlisTvisukan daabrunebda, maTrepatriacias moaxden-da. es dro kars mogva-dga, Tavad isini _ or-mociaTasi azerbaijan-Sia gamzadebuli, mopa-tiJebas elodebian.

saerTod, oTxasiaTas sul-

zea saubari. vin arian es Tur-

qi-mesxebi, aris rame maTSi qar-

Tuli... survili mainc aqvT qar-

Tvelobis!

rogorc irkveva dadarwmunebuli var, ma-Sin, gadasaxlebisas,aT procentamde Tuiyo qarTveli! amasTiTqmis yvela qarTve-li istorikosi Tu po-litikosi amtkicebs.amis utyuari faqtebiarsebobs. SerCeviT ar-

avin SegvarCevinebs.bevri ambobs, qarTve-li viyavio, gamodis,sityvaze unda vendoT.bevri amasac ar ambobs_ samcxe-javaxeTi Cve-niao, pirdapir gveub-neba. komfaqturi Ca-saxlebis upirobo mo-Txovna aqvT. am mxaresTiTqos ucxotomele-bi akldes!

cota Soridan daviwyeb.

me, piradad, zviad gamsaxur-

dias TviTgamocema `oqros saw-

misidan~ gavige Turqi-mesxebis

Sesaxeb. batoni zviadi Tavidan

mxars uWerda maT, mogvianebiT,

mkveTrad Seicvala azri da ara-

erTxel gamoTqva werilobiT

Tu mitingebze...

1975-76 wlebi iyo, studen-

ti viyavi, Turqi-mesxebis ambavs

mtkivneulad ganvicdidi da Ca-

verTe am erTob saSiS moZraoba-

Si. profesor guram mamulias

kargad vicnobdi. wasul kacze

cuds verafers vityvi, Tavad

sjeroda, albaT da mec marwmu-

nebda, saqarTvelos gadarCenis

Sansi (demografiuli Tvalsaz-

risiT) es ariso! davijere. ma-

mulia xvdeboda mesxebs, Cadio-

da, Camoudiodnen stumrad da

sxvebTan erTad mec vxvdebodi.

maSinac mRrRnida eWvi maT qar-

Tvelobaze, ufro zustad, vfiq-

robdi, qarTul gvarebs Tu da-

ibruneben da TiTo qarTul so-

felSi or-sam ojaxs Tu Cava-

saxlebT, SeiZleba, maTi adapti-

reba moxdes-meTqi!

maT xelmZRvanels sarvarovs

vicnobdi. moxda ise, rom xeli-

suflebam cxra ojaxi guriaSi,

eqvsi _ samegreloSi Caasaxla.

Ramec ki gvaqvs iq, maTTan gaTe-

nebuli Tamila korinTels, ba-

ton gurams da me zugdidis ra-

ionSi, sofel narazenSi rom Ca-

saxldnen, rogorc zugdideli,

ufro aqtiuri viyavi. sarvaro-

vic narazenSi iyo. misi Svili

Tu SviliSvili im weliwads

skolaSi unda Sesuliyo. bavSvs

qarTul skolaSi Seviyvano,

Segvpirda.

gavixareT.

erT dRes zugdidSi var. abe-

salom tuRuSi Semxvda _ zug-

didis muzeumis TanamSromeli,

istorikosi, bavSvobis megobari.

narazenSi xom ar yofilxar-

meTqi, vkiTxe. ara, magram bavSvi

rusul skolaSi SeuyvaniaTo _

miTxra. ver davijere. nacnobi

manqaniani vnaxeT da gavvardiT.

skolaSi mivediT, direqtorma

dagvidastura, aseao! vuxmeT

sarvarovs, movida. ratom daar-

Rvie piroba-meTqi? ra pirobao?

_ mpasuxobs. piroba, rom bavSvi

qarTul skolaSi iswavlida.

mogclia erTi, romeli qarTve-

li Sen myavxaro?! _ ukmexad mo-

maxala. _ aba, vin var, Seni az-

riT? _ waviwie. vina xar da meg-

relio! _ damiwuna qarTveloba.

veci yelSi... arc is CamomrCa da

atyda erTi ambavi... Cagvixta di-

reqtori SuaSi. sarvarovs Tavi-

siani qalebi Tu colebi wamo-

eSvelnen da lamis gagvwewon...

aris sirbili, jikavi, gineba...

gavige, lomaia modis, lomaiao...

Tavmjdomare iyo (Cveni ganaT-

lebis yofili ministris mama).

abesalomma miCurCula, Cqara

movtydeT, Torem es kaci iseTi

oxeri vinmea, Cvenc da sarva-

rovs erTad Cagvyris cixeSio.

CavxtiT manqanaSi da gamovi-

qeciT.

Cveni nacnobi mZRoli ufro

saintereso kaci aRmoCnda. maSin

rom momiyva anegdoti, dResac

maxsovs.

megreli ambobs, ra ucnauri

xalxia es qarTvelebio? ratom-

meTqi? _ CaverTe anegdotSi,

qarTveli afxazs eubneba _ qar-

Tveli xaro! afxazi iklavs

Tavs _ ara var qarTvelio! meg-

reli iWaWeba _ ager var, qarT-

velio! ar xar qarTvelio, _ pa-

suxobs qarTveli...

ase ukuRmarTad aris Cveni

saqmeo _ askvnis igi.

eseni Tu qarTvelebi arian,

kargad yofila Cveni saqmeo!

mokled, rogorcirkveva, Turqi-mesxe-bisTvis Sendeba qala-qi lazika!...

amitom Sendeba esqalaqi da ara saqarT-velodan sakuTari oj-axebis sarCenad gaqce-uli marTla qarTve-lebisaTvis!

es iqneba didi tragedia.

miuxedavad Cemi didi pati-

viscemisa, mwerali naira gelaS-

vili maTi Camosaxlebis momxrea

dResac. aseve, ramdenadac vici,

`respublikelebic~ uWeren mx-

ars, raSic verc erTs ver dave-

Tanxmebi.

am azris oponentad vrCebi

da mtradac!

miT umetes, maTi kompaqtu-

rad Casaxleba nebismier kuTxe-

Si _ im mxares unda gamoeTxo-

vo! axla guria da samegrelo

mivayoloT samaCablosa da afxa-

zeTs?...

Turqebis gamqarT-veleblebi varT Cven?!

oTxasiaTas TurqserT qalaqSi rom daa-saxleb, aT-TxuTmetweliwadSi, axal avto-nomiur warmonaqmnsmovimkiT...

axlaxan marneulSi viyavi.

didebuli mwerali, batoni no-

dar wuleiskiri amJamad iq

cxovrobs da movinaxule. cent-

rSi, moedanTan gavaCere manqana

da rusTavelis quCa sadaa-meTqi,

or-sam taqsists vkiTxe, Tan

rusulad. ar viciTo! sanam qar-

Tveli kaci ar vipove, davbodi-

alobdi aqeT-iqiT. rogorc iqna,

vipove da _ rusTavelis quCis

TavSi dgaxaro, _ miTxra.

rodemde unda gveZinos yur-

ze?!

ra davaSaveT, ra gveli Se-

vuwviT aseTi, ase rom gvmtrobs

prezidenti, netav macodina da

mere momkla!...

zaur kalandia

SOS! qalaqi lazika Turqi-mesxebis Camosasaxleblad Sendeba!

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gvveesaubrreeba `̀mrreewvveeleebis~

lideerri batonni gogi TofaZe:

_ batono gogi, biZina ivaniS-

vilis politikaSi mosvlam axali

realoba Seqmna. rogor fiqrobT,

ra Secvala misma gamoCenam?

_ biZina ivaniSvilis qarTul

politikaSi Semosvla mniSvnelo-

vani faqtoria. es kargad daetyo

xelisuflebas _Tu adre mSvidad

grZnobdnen Tavs, saarCevno teqno-

logiebic maT xelSi iyo, axla

SeSfoTebulni arian, radgan ga-

moCnda mZlavri, seriozuli figu-

ra. saxelisuflebo gundis SeS-

foTeba imaSic gamoixateba, rom

maT momavali arCevnebisTvis aqti-

uri mzadeba ukve daiwyes. biZina

ivaniSvils sakuTari qveynisTvis

uamravi sikeTe aqvs gakeTebuli,

rac bunebrivia patriotuli su-

liskveTebiTaa ganpirobebuli. mas

sakmaod ZviradRirebuli proeqte-

bi aqvs dafinansebuli. mecineba

xelisuflebis mxridan mis

winaaRmdeg mimarTul Sav piarze _

zonderbrigadebis dafinansebisa

da sxva iluzorul braldebebze.

droTa ganmavlobaSi xalxSi uime-

doba, nihilizmi Camoyalibda, verc

opoziciam ivarga, radgan saxeli-

suflebo resursi sakmaod Zlieri

gamodga. mniSvnelovani roli Se-

asrula socialurma daZabulobam,

problemebma, rac wlebis manZilze

qarTvel xalxs daugrovda. CemT-

vis kargadaa cnobili ra mdgoma-

reobaa, gansakuTrebiT regionebSi,

xalxi sasowarkveTilebamdea misu-

li. biZina ivaniSvilis gamoCenam

xalxs dakarguli imedi, rwmena

daubruna. xalxi mixvda, rom xe-

lisuflebis gauTavebeli dapire-

bebi sxva araferia Tu ara mxo-

lod winasaarCevno dapireba. biZi-

na ivaniSvilis sakmaod didi upi-

ratesoba swored isaa, rom miuxe-

davad didi finansuri SesaZleb-

lobisa, igi moridebiT saubrobs

imis Sesaxeb, Tu ras gaakeTebs, ar

iZleva haerze cru-dapirebebs. Cem-

Tvis mniSvnelovania, rom man pir-

velive gancxadebaSi soflis me-

urneobis problemebze gaamaxvila

yuradReba. man Tqva, rom soflis

meurneobis asaRorZineblad 1 mi-

liards Cadebs, rac mniSvnelovani

ganacxadia. raionebSi xalxi gaxa-

rebulia, amboben eSvela soflis

meurneobaso, anu im dargs, rome-

lic adre saqarTvelos inaxavda.

gamococxlda, imediT aivso xal-

xi. xelisuflebis dapirebebis mi-

marT xalxs rwmena dakarguli

aqvs, xolo roca ivaniSvili hpir-

deba, yvelam icis, rom igi sity-

vis kacia da dapirebas realobad

aqcevs. mis mimarT uzarmazari

ndobaa.

_ radgan dapirebebs SevexeT,

modiT prezidentis bolo dapire-

ba_ ramdenime weliwadSi naxevar-

milioniani qalaqis aSeneba gavix-

senoT. ramdenad realurad gesaxe-

baT am masStabis proeqtis amuSa-

veba?

_ diax, is dagvpirda, rom

zRvis doneze dabla myof WaobSi

naxevarmilionian qalaqs aaSenebs.

albaT, wamoscda. bevri arqiteq-

tori megobari myavs da maT

vkiTxe amis Taobaze: naxevarmili-

oniani qalaqi rom aSendes, erT

sul mosaxleze, minimum, 100 kv.m.

unda iangariSo. saubari mxolod

binebze ar aris, aramed asaSenebe-

lia saavadmyofo, sabavSvo baRi,

skola da a.S. Tanac amxela qala-

qis marto daproeqtebas unda

wlebi. warmoidgineT, rac unda

iafad aSendes, minimum 300-400

dolari xom jdeba 1 kv.m. 100

kv.m.-s Tu viangariSebT erT sul

mosaxleze, naxevari milioniani

mosaxleobisTvis 50 milioni kv.m.

gamodis, es 400-ze rom gavamrav-

loT jamSi 20 miliards miviRebT.

cxadia, Cveni biujetis Semxedvare

20 miliardis ase gasrola, SeuZ-

lebelia. aqedan gamomdinare aseTi

gauTvleli, ucnauri gancxadebebi,

miuRebelia. am dros, meore mxriv

sakmaod moridebiT Zalian did

programas gvTavazobs biZina iva-

niSvili, romlisac xalxs sjera.

yvelam icis, rom igi ar ityueba

da rasac gvpirdeba aucileblad

gaakeTebs, es xalxma igrZno.

kidev erT problemaze minda

gesaubroT _ bolo xanebSi didi

aJiotaJia aerodromebis mSeneb-

lobasTan dakavSirebiT. kopitna-

ris aerodromi ukve gvaqvs, axla

apireben foTSic aaSenon. aseve, ba-

TumSi, senakSi gvaqvs samxedro

aerodromi. risTvis keTdeba es,

30-40 km.-is daSorebiT ramdeni

aerodromi unda avaSenoT? ibadeba

Zalian didi eWvi. kerZod, bolo

periodSi aSS-sa da irans Zalian

daeZabaT urTierToba. yirgizeTSi

axalma prezidentma daxura sam-

xedro aerodromebi. Tu SeerTebu-

li Statebi iranze Setevas api-

rebs, mas sakuTar bazebs arc

TurqeTi, arc somxeTi (ruseTi ar

miaceminebs), arc azerbaijani ar

miscems. ra gamodis? _ rom Cven

aq placdarms vakeTebT, amden sam-

xedro aerodroms risTvis vaSe-

nebT? Tumca, xelisufleba jer ar

amxels, rom samxedro aerodrome-

bia, magram es, ra Tqma unda, asea.

aqedan gamomdinare, miCndeba sa-

fuZvliani eWvi, rom es aris mza-

deba iranis winaaRmdeg amerikisT-

vis. irani Zalian Zlieri 75 mili-

oniani qveyanaa, es ar aris erayi.

irani industriuli qveyanaa, ro-

melsac kosmosSi Tanamgzavrebi

aqvs gaSvebuli. mas balistikuri

iaraRi aqvs, romelic Tavisuflad

moswvdeba Cvens qveyanas. igi bir-

Tvul iaraRzec muSa-

obs da am mocemuloba-

Si Cven unda gavxdeT

am Setevis obieqti,

xom?! radgan aSS-s

partniori varT, ami-

tom sakuTari qveyana

unda gavwiroT?

_ es xom qveynis

mtrobaze uaresia...

_ ra Tqma unda, ge-

TanxmebiT, aba, sxva ri-

Ti aixsneba, aerodro-

mebis aseTi gacxovele-

buli mSenebloba? meo-

rec, socialurad, eko-

nomiurad gaWirvebuli

qveyana varT, samxedro aerodrome-

bis mSeneblobis ra aucileblobaa,

amas xom asobiT milionebi ar eyo-

fa, es sakmaod SemaSfoTebeli sa-

kiTxia. Cven vxdebiT iranidan dar-

tymis obieqti, ratom unda gavixa-

doT igi mtrad?! Cven am regionSi

yvelaze susti qveyana varT ekono-

mikurad, socialurad, SeiaraRebu-

li Zalebis TvalsazrisiTac. Cven

ver gavuZlebT am dartymas. amis

sapirispirod ivaniSvils qveynis

gadarCenis uamravi realuri prog-

rama aqvs, rac, ra Tqma unda uf-

ro momgebiania xalxisTvis. ra

teqnologiebic ar unda gamoiyenos

xelisuflebam saarCevnod, ara

mgonia, gayalbeba moaxerxon. biZina

ivaniSvils, albaT aqvs sakuTari

xmebis dacvis gegma. ra Tanxasac

xelisufleba aerodromebSi hyris,

es rom soflis meurneobaSi gamo-

iyenon, saqarTvelo ayvavdeba, gaCn-

deba axali bazris gaxsnis perspeq-

tiva. rac niSnavs, rom agugundeba

yvelaferi, gaixsneba sawarmoebi,

dabrundeba qveynidan gaqceuli xa-

lxi, avicilebT migraciul proce-

sebs. rogorc ki saqarTveloSi

normaluri cxovrebis pirobebi

Seiqmneba, dabrundeba xalxi, dRes

soflebi dacarielebulia.

_ marTlac, opoziciuri speq-

tris uSedego brZolis Semdeg

imedi gaCnda, axlaxan sazogadoeb-

rivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocnebac~

dafuZnda. risi imedi, molodini

gaCnda amiT?

_ diax, xalxi gaaqtiurda,

imedi gaCnda. albaT, realurad am-

deni politikuri partia aRar iq-

neba, axla 100-ze meti partiaa

daregistrirebuli. politikuri

speqtri or banakad gaiyofa _ er-

Ti xelisuflebisken wava, meore

biZina ivaniSvilisken. rac Seexeba

filarmoniaSi, `qarTuli ocnebis~

dafuZnebas, mec veswrebodi, xal-

xis did nawils cremlebi mosdi-

odaT, maT dakarguli imedi, rwme-

na daubrundaT. am Sexvedris la-

itmotivi Semdegia _ iyo gvirabi,

romelSic bolo ar Canda da ax-

la sxivi gamoCnda, anu Svela.

xalxs am imeds veRar gauqroben,

veraviTari represiebi, zonderb-

rigadebi veRar SeaCerebs maT. pi-

radad biZina ivaniSvilze xorci-

eldeba zewola sxvadasxva saxiT,

Tundac bankis magaliTi aviRoT.

mec `qarTu bankis~ klienti var

da davrCebi bolomde, mTeli Cemi

aqtivebi am bankSi maqvs, magram

`qarTu banki~ xom biZina ivaniSvi-

lis aqtivebis naxevari procentic

ar aris. konkurenti dainaxes da

laRad veRar grZnoben Tavs, gau-

gonar rameebs sCadian. adre, xeli-

suflebas saarCevno procesi praq-

tikulad privatizebuli hqonda

da brZolas azri ar hqonda. biZi-

na ivaniSvili imitom Semovida po-

litikaSi, rom 7 procentiani ba-

rieri gadalaxos?! bunebrivia mas

sxva ganzraxva da gegmebi aqvs.

gegmebi, romelic xalxma moiwona

da romelTan brZolac Zalian ga-

uWirdeba xelisuflebas.

_ Tumca, batono gogi, saakaS-

vilma aSkara saarCevno kampania

wamoiwyo _ `aSenebs~ axal qala-

qebs da a.S. droze adre xom ar

emzadeba igi arCevnebis Casatareb-

lad, Tundac gazafxulze. am fon-

ze xom ar aris saWiro garkveuli

nabijebis gadadgma, Tu mSvidad

davelodoT arCevnebs?!

_ ar vici, rodis apireben ar-

Cevnebis daniSvnas, magram geTanx-

mebiT, rom saarCevno kampania xe-

lisuflebam aSkarad daiwyo. aris

safrTxe, rom ivaniSvilma aseT

SemTxvevaSi marTlac ver moasw-

ros struqturis Seqmna, regio-

nebSi sando xalxis moZieba. magram

dRes xalxis imedebi, rom raRac

gveSveleba imdenad mniSvnelova-

nia, xalxi aqtiuri iqneba da iva-

niSvili ar darCeba daucveli. sa-

qarTvelos moqalaqeoba ar ekuTv-

nis Turme biZina ivaniSvils. dasa-

cinad gavixadeT saqme mezobel

qveynebSic ki. kacma amdeni sikeTe

gaakeTa qveynisTvis da madliere-

bis niSnad xelisuflebam moqala-

qeoba CamoarTva, msgavsi absurdi

arcerT qveyanaSi ar xdeba. es aS-

kara politikuri zewolaa. xeli-

sufleba mieCvia, rom yvela ukano-

noba unda SerCes. magram dRes si-

tuacia radikalurad Seicvala _

arc dasavleTi, arc CrdiloeTi,

arc evrokavSiri aRar dauWers

mxars ukanonobas. yvelam kargad

icis rom CvenTan yvelaferi rig-

ze ar aris, ician, rom demokratia

mxolod qaRaldzea deklarirebu-

li. dRes gavige gia cagareiSvi-

lis Svili sastikad ucemiaT sax-

lis sadarbazoSi, imitom, rom gia

kritikulad gamovida amaswinaT.

es xalxis aSkara daSinebaa, magram

minda vuTxra xelisuflebas _

xalxi, aRar daSindeba, aRar eSi-

niaT maT. roca dainaxavs, rom per-

speqtiva aRar arsebobs, yvelafer-

ze wava.

_ Tqven axseneT, xalxi aRar

daSindebao. magram ramdenad Senar-

Cundeba es muxti arCevnebamde?

_ ara mgonia, muxti mineldes.

qarTvelma xalxma bevri simware

naxa, aRar daijerebs lazikas aSe-

nebas da sxva msgavs zRaprebs. me-

orec, nu vityviT, rom ivaniSvil-

ma axla daiwyo politikuri moR-

vaweoba, SeiZleba politikaSi axa-

li Semosulia magram igi 6-7 we-

lia sikeTeebs akeTebs, aTasobiT

cnobili moRvawe SimSils gadaar-

Cina, rac umniSvnelovanesia. biZi-

na ivaniSvils guSin ar dauwyia

qveynisTvis sasikeTo saqmeebis ke-

Teba.

_ arsebobs raRac zRvari, ris

zemoTac xelisufleba arCevnebs

veRar ayalbebs. ramdenad aris

dRes mzadyofna, xalxma masiurad

gaakeTos Tavisi arCevani?

_ dRes yvela erTi da igives

ambobs _ gveSvela. ar SeiZleba

ivaniSvilisnair gamocdil, niWier

adamians gaTvlili ar hqondes es

yvelaferi. momaval gamosvlebSi,

albaT igi ufro mets isaubrebs

konkretul programebze. xalxs

aqvs rwmena, rom igi marTali ka-

cia da ar moityuebs. mas SeeZlo

nebismier qveyanaSi mSvidad, la-

Rad ecxovra, magram dabrunda sa-

qarTveloSi, radgan mas gulwrfe-

lad awuxebs qveynis bedi. mas ga-

azrebuli aqvs, rom bevri usiamov-

neba Sexvdeba, magram gadadga es

nabiji _ Tavs movaled Tvlis qve-

yana gadaarCinos. bevri qarTveli

mdidari vici ucxoeTSi moRvawe,

magram aseTi xelgaSlili da qvey-

nis dasabruneblad mondomebuli

aravin minaxavs. imedi maqvs, es yve-

laferi qarTveli xalxis sasike-

Tod dasruldeba.

_ TqvenTvis ra aris `qarTu-

li ocneba~?

_ rac politikaSi movedi, mas

mere erTi da imave poziciaze var.

zogma 5-6 partia gamoicvala imis

mixedviT, Tu sad ufro didi per-

speqtiva eloda. Cveni gundi movi-

da im strategiiT, rom miuRebe-

lia soflis meurneobis mokvla.

dRes, saqarTveloSi sofeli

mkvdaria. batoni biZina igive mo-

sazrebebze, strategiebze saub-

robs da bunebrivia, mxars vuWerT

mas. mTavaria, yvela visac Tavisi

qveynis, STamomavlobis gamarjveba

surs, biZina ivaniSvilis mxares

dadgeba, radgan aq qveynis gadar-

Cenis da ganviTarebis perspeqtiva

Cans. aseTi mZlavri aqamde arsebu-

li arcerTi opoziciuri Zala ar

vyofilvarT. ivaniSvili qveynis

aSkara patriotia da mas unda

qveynis sasikeTod Secvla. xalxis

survilic xom es aris. iqamde mi-

vida xelisufleba, rom parlamen-

ti `qarTu bankis~ winaaRmdeg Re-

bulobs kanonebs, es ubralod sa-

saciloa. imedianad var, rom eSve-

leba qveyanas, Tu xalxi erTad

dadgeba da im programas miiRebs,

rasac es didebuli qarTveli ka-

ci gvTavazobs. Cveni gundi gver-

diT daudgeba mas.

Tamar SveliZe

gogi TofaZe: gogi TofaZe: `yvelam icis, rom biZina ivaniSviliar ityueba da rasac gvpirdeba,aucileblad gaakeTebs~

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-ssaxalxo partia da konser-

vatorebi respublikelebTan,

Tavisufal demokratebsa da bi-

Zina ivaniSvilTan erTad, saar-

Cevno blokSi gaerTiandebiT.

amave dros, gavrcelebul ganca-

debaSi aRninuli iyo, rom Tqven

individualuradac iTanamSrom-

lebT kolaiciasTan. ra formiT

miiRebs monawiloebas saxalxo

partia da konservatorebi koa-

liciis muSaobaSi?

-jer politikuri bloki

Seqmnili ar aris, imitom rom

arCevnebi jer daniSnuli ar

aris, mogexsenebaT, saarCevno

bloki arCevnebis daniSvnis Sem-

deg SeiZleba Seiqmnas. ukve mi-

viReT gadawyvetileba, rom er-

Toblivi politikuri saqmiano-

ba gvqondes. aseT dros pirov-

nulad CaverTvebiT da ara par-

tiulad. koaliciis muSaobaSi

ki, mec da zviad ZiZiguric, ro-

gorc aRniSnuli iyo gancxade-

baSi, CaverTvebiT Cvens politi-

kur gundebTan erTad.

-TTavisufal demokratebTan

da ?espubliklebTan erTad Tu

igegmeba partiaSi Tqveni gawev-

rianeba?

-maTi partia calke Seiqmne-

ba da Semdeg ase vTqvaT, saar-

Cevno bloki.

-TTqven brZaneT, rom saarCev-

no bloki mxolod arCevnebis

win Seiqmneba. ramdeni xniT ad-

re iqneba es SesaZlebeli?

-saarCevno bloki iqmneba mas

Semdeg, rac arCevnebi gamocxad-

deba, Semdeg xdeba partiebis

daregistrireba da daregistri-

rebuli partiebisgan, rogorc

wesi, arCevnebamde, ormoci

dRiT adre iqmneba bloki.

-ooficialurad, arCevnebs

2012 wlis oqtombris bolo

kviras uwevs Catareba, Tumca,

dRes xelisuflebis qmedebebs

Tu gansazRvravT, yvela para-

metriT es aris winasaarCevni

piar-kkampania. Zalian bevri saub-

robs imaze, rom saqarTveloSi

vadamdeli saparlamento arCev-

nebi dainiSneba. ramdenad SeuS-

lis xels vadamdeli arCvnebis

daniSnvna Tqvens saarCevno

bloks?

-rac male dainiSneba arCev-

nebi, miT male Camoyalibdeba

bloki da es xelisSemSleli

ver iqneba. me marTali giTxraT,

ar viziareb im mosazrebas, rom

riggareSe arCevnebisken midis

saqme. mTeli rigi niSnebia, ro-

melic amas ar adasturebs. pen-

siebis zrda seqtembris Tvidan

Caido biujetSi da es CemTvis

mTavari niSania.

-mmxolod es niSani ganapiro-

bebs imas, rom arCevnebis daniS-

vna Semodgomazea gansazRvru-

li?

-ara, es erTi niSani ar ga-

napirobebs, Tumca, vfiqrob,

mniSvnelovani niSania.

-jjerjerobiT arc saarCevno

blokia Seqmnili da arc ivaniS-

vilis partiaa Camoyalibebuli.

Tqven Zalian bevrjer giTqvamT,

rom yvelaze didi samuSao re-

gionebSia Casatarebeli. moesw-

reba Tu ara saqarTvelos rai-

onebSi mosaxloebas-

Tan muSaobis Catare-

ba, maSin rodesac xe-

lisufleba yoveldRi-

urad sxvadasxva qa-

laqsa Tu sofelSi

atarebs saarCevno kam-

panias da mosaxleobas

xvdeba?

-vadebi SezRudeb-

lia, magram moswreba

SeiZleba. axali velo-

sipedis gamogoneba sa-

Wiro ar aris. unda

dafuZndes rionuli

organizaciebi, Camoyalibdes

ofisebi da unda daiwyon muSa-

oba. saWiroa beWduri masalis

darigeba, gamoices gazeTi da

a.S..

-TTu xelisuflebam arCevnebi

gazafxulze daniSna, 15 ianvram-

de saqarTvelSi saaxalwlo

samzadisia, partiuli struq-

turis CamoyalibebisTvis Zalin

mcire dro xom ar rCeba?

-bunebrivia, ufro garTul-

deba, Tumca moswreba SesaZle-

belia.

-ZZalian optimisturad xarT

ganwyobili...

-am struqturebSi xalxis

gawevrianebis problema ar aris.

darwmunebuli var, rogorc ki

gaixsneba ofisebi, xalxi denas

daiwyebs. sazogadoeba am

struqturebis gaxsnas moelis

da maTi ZaliT mozidva da sa-

reklamo kampaniis Catareba ar

dagvWirdeba.

-TTqven jer kidev rvianis pe-

riodidan saubrobdiT imaze,

rom Tu saarCevno garemo ar Se-

icvala, arCevnebis mogeba opo-

zicias Zalian gauWirdeboda. ax-

la ra resursi gaaCnia ivaniSvi-

lis bloks imisTvis, rom saar-

Cevno garemos Seucvlelad, Se-

ebrZoloT xelisuflebas, ar-

Cevnebi moigoT da saparlamento

umravlesobiT moxvideT?

-Cven unda SevZloT, rom yve-

la ubanze aTeulze meti damk-

virvebeli gvyavdes, komisii wev-

rze rom aRaraferi vTqvaT da

Cven amas movaxerxebT.

-ddamkvirveblebis gadamzade-

bis procesi ukve mimdinareobs?

-ra Tqma unda. Cven win wa-

vigdeT saqme da Cvens kolega

konservatorebTan erTad, es

procesi didi xania dawyebuli

gvaqvs.

-ssaarCevno garemo Secvlili

ar aris da Tqven, faqtiurad,

carieli xelebiT mogiwevT

brZola...

-ar mgonia, mTlad carieli

xelebiT viyoT. Zalian mniSvne-

lovania sazogadoebis ganwyoba

da is, rac batonma biZina ivaniS-

vilma Semoitana politikaSi-ime-

di da is adamianebi, vinc arCev-

nebze misvlas ar apirebda, ar-

Cevnebze mivlen. garda amisa, Cven

gvaqvs SesaZlebloba, gvyavdes

mravali aTasi momzadebuli dam-

kvirvebeli,rac arsebiTad sxva

pirobebs qmnis arCevnebisTvis.

-ddasavleTi yovelTvis did

rols TamaSobda arCevnebis sa-

boloo Sedegebis saqmeSi. am

SemTxvevaSi, rogor iqneba saq-

me? xelisuflebis warmomadgen-

lebi Riad acxadeben, rom dasav-

leTi mxars ar dauWirs ruseT-

Si gamdidrebul oligarqs...

-fici mwams, bolo makvir-

vebs. dasavleTi acxadebs, rom

saakaSvili qveynis premier-mi-

nistric ki ver iqneba da Tavi-

si prezidentoba unda daasru-

los. ramdenadac visi, es ofici-

aluradac dadasturda, sagareo

saqmeTa ministrma grigol vaSa-

Zem gaakeTa es gancxadeba. saa-

kaSvilis saqme rom dasrulebu-

lia, misi survilis miuxedavad,

es cxadia. saakaSvili rom miuS-

va, is sicocxlis bolomde iq-

neboda premieri an prezidenti.

man konstitucia imitom Secva-

la.

nuca daviTaSvili

koba daviTaSvili: koba daviTaSvili: dasavleTma naTlad mianiSna, rom saakaSvili ver iqneba verc premieri da verc prezidenti,

rac bevr rameze metyvelebs

grZeldeba ss ,,banki qar-

Tus“ klienturis Cvens bankSi

giraod Cadebuli uZrav-mmoZra-

vi qonebis dayadaRebis proce-

si. gasul kviras kidev or

biznes-jjgufs dauyadaRda 5,2

mln. aSS dolaris qoneba, ris

gamoc arauzrunvelyofili da

Sedegad praqtikulad upers-

peqtivo gaxda kidev 3 mln.

aSS dolaris saerTo moculo-

bis sesxebi.

paralelurad daiwyo daya-

daRebuli qonebebis auqcionze

gatana. kerZod, erTi kviris

ganmavlobaSi auqcionze gata-

nilia 19 mln. laris Rirebu-

lebis 26 obieqti sabazro fa-

sis 50 procentad, Tumca, ro-

gorc mosalodneli iyo, praq-

tikulad arc erTi qoneba ar

gayidula da didi albaTobiT

arc gaiyideba: maT naturiT

daisakuTrebs ekonomikis sami-

nistro _ axlo momavalSi,

garkveuli sqemiT, Tavdapirve-

li mflobelebisTvis ukan dab-

runebis mizniT.

aRniSnuli aZlierebs Cvens

eWvebs _ risTvis gamoeyo

wlis miwuruls biujetidan

ekonomikis saministros 160

mln. laris damatebiTi asigne-

bani (am Tanxidan 40 mln. aSS

dolari, anu 66 mln. lari eb-

rael biznesmenebTan garigebis

safasuria) – swored am qone-

bis safasuris biujetSi gada-

saxdelad, am ukanasknelis mi-

erve wina TveSi gamoyofili

Tanxebis xarjze?!

darCenili 94 mln. laria

dakidebuli damokles maxvili-

viT ss ,,banki qarTus“ Tavze

da am Tanxis aTvisebas uTuod

moaxerxeben wlis bolomde

politikurad motivirebuli

teroris gziT, zemoT aRniSnu-

li sqemiTa da biujeturi sax-

srebiT manipulirebis meSveo-

biT, qarTuli sabanko sistemis

mxridan danaSaulebrivi dumi-

lis fonze.

aqve gvinda xazgasmiT aRv-

niSnoT, rom sazogadoebisTvis

kargad cnobili sakanonmdeblo

cvlilebebi, romlebsac ase

,,efeqturad“ da mxolod ss

,,banki qarTus“ winaaRmdeg iye-

neben sadamsjelo operaciad,

gacilebiT met saSiSroebas

uqmnis saqarTvelos sabanko

sistemasa da mTlianad qar-

Tul ekonomikas.

giraos arsisa da pirveli

rigis ipoTekaris statusis

nivelireba, miuxedavad imisa,

mas xelisufleba mizanmimar-

Tulad gamoiyenebs Tu ara ama

Tu im klientisa da Sesabami-

sad mis kreditor bankTan mi-

marTebaSi, avtomatur reJimSi

gamoiwvevs sesxebis uzrunvel-

yofis xarisxis mniSvnelovan

Semcirebas da saTanadod dama-

tebiTi saxsrebis darezervire-

bis aucileblobas; yovelive

es ki, dramatulad Seamcirebs

axali sesxebis gacemis SesaZ-

leblobebs da gazrdis sapro-

cento ganakveTebs.

aseve avtomaturad, vinmes

nebis miuxedavad, gaizrdeba

qveyanasTan dakavSirebuli ris-

kebi, rac gaarTulebs da gaaZ-

virebs saerTaSoriso safinan-

so organizaciebidan sesxebis

miRebas, gamoiwvevs ukve gamo-

yofil sakredito resursebze

saprocento ganakveTebis

zrdas, maT Soris im ucxoeli

investorebisTvis, romlebic

swored saerTaSoriso safinan-

so institutebidan unda dafi-

nansebuliyvnen, ucxouri inves-

ticiebis moculobis mniSvne-

lovani Semcirebis garantire-

buli SedegiT.

qarTuli bankebis erTma na-

wilma ukve gaakeTa garkveuli

reagireba Seqmnil situaciaze

– SeaCeres an Seamcires msxvi-

li kreditebis gacemis sa-

kiTxebis ganxilva. es proce-

si uTuod gagrZeldeba da gaR-

rmavdeba.

aqve SevniSnavT, rom saqar-

Tvelos erovnulma bankma ki-

dev ori TviT gaagrZela ss

,,banki qarTus‘ e.w. Semowmeba,

anu mimdinare operaciebis wi-

naswari kontrolis ganxorci-

eleba (?!).

meore mxriv, ufro inten-

siuri xdeba zewola ss ,,banki

qarTus“ damfuZnebel ss ,,qar-

Tu jgufze“ – sul oriode

dRis win Tbilisis saqalaqo

sasamarTlos administraciul

saqmeTa kolegiis mosamarTlem

daakmayofila ssip Semosavle-

bis samsaxuris auditis depar-

tamentis yovlad usafuZvlo

da dausabuTebeli Suamdgom-

loba ss ,,qarTu jgufis“ gan-

meorebiTi kameraluri Semow-

mebis Catarebis Taobaze.

grZeldeba ss ,,qarTu jgu-

fis“ kuTvnili tvirTebis ga-

miznuli da totaluri dazia-

nebebis procesic, romelic da-

iwyo batoni biZina ivaniSvilis

mier politikuri gancxadebis

gakeTebis Semdgom. a.w. 17 oq-

tombridan dRemde saqarTve-

los teritoriaze Semosuli

da CvenTvis gankuTvnili yvela

teqnika, romelTa saerTo Ri-

rebuleba TiTqmis naxevar mi-

lion aSS dolars Seadgens,

dazianebuli da gamosayeneblad

uvargisia.

imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom

am tvirTis momwodeblebi

msoflioSi aRiarebuli bren-

debi arian, gamoricxuli ar

aris, saqarTvelos saxelmwifo

saerTaSoriso skandalSi gaex-

vios aqedan gamomdinare Znelad

prognozirebadi SedegebiT.

da bolos, kidev erTxel

movuwodebT saqarTvelos xe-

lisuflebas, SeaCeros sxva-

dasxva saxelmwifo struqtu-

ridan ss ,,qarTu jgufis“ sa-

meurneo subieqtebze, maT So-

ris ss ,,bank qarTuze“ usamar-

Tlo zewola, miT umetes, rom

safrTxe eqmneba mTlianad qar-

Tul ekonomikasa da saxelmwi-

fos saerTaSoriso imijs.

nodar javaxiSvili,`banki qarTus~

generaluri direqtori

ss `banki qarTus~ gancxadeba

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

internetSi

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9#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

`qarTuli ocnebis~ Stabbi-

na muSaobis aqtiur reJimzea

gadasuli. anton kaTalikosis

#3-Si, mxardamWerTa raodeno-

ba ar wydeba. dRemde sazogado-

ebriv moZraobaSi gaerTianebis

survili 9 576 adamianma ga-

moTqva. gadavwyviteT, `qarTu-

li ocnebis~ ofisTan mivsuli-

yaviT da Sekrebili xalxisgan

mogvesmina, ras fiqroben qar-

Tul ocnebasa da biZina ivaniS-

vilis gadawyvetilebaze, bizne-

sidan _ politikaSi.

Tumca mxardamWerTa umrav-

lesoba sazogadoebaSi arsebul

SiSzec saubrobs da xalxs ga-

mofxizlebisken mouwodeben.

StabbinaSi yofnisas Cemze

waruSleli STabeWdileba 84

wlis qalbatonma moaxdina.

lamzira bebom welSi moxril-

ma, yavarjendayrdnobilma Seno-

bamde Zlivs moaRwia, SenobaSi

Sesasvleli kibeebi ki axalgaz-

rdebis daxmarebiT aiara. gamao-

ca am qalbatonis enTuziazmma,

albaT SemarTebiT, Tavganwir-

viT, bevr axalgazrdas kidev

ajobebs. darwmunebuli var,

lamzira bebos magaliTs bevri

adamiani mibaZavs...

arCil akobia, `qarTuli

ocnebis~ wevri _ ukve didi xa-

nia sakuTar qveyanaSi devnilad

qceuli TbilisSi vcxovrob.

amas kidev Tu cxovreba hqvia,

cxvrebiviT dagvatareben win da

ukan xan sad Segvyrian, xan sa-

idan gamogvyrian. biZina ivaniS-

vilis gamoCenam imedi gamiCina

Cems miwa-wyalze dabrunebis.

amitom gadavwyvite `qarTul

ocnebaSi~ gawevrianeba. imedia,

batoni biZina qarTvelebs ocne-

bebs agvixdens, maT Soris mec

da Cems miwaze davimarxebi.

badri makaraSvili,`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ sa-

akaSvilis mosvlis periodSi

darwmunebulebi viyaviT yvela-

feri kargad iqneboda, Tumca

molodini maleve gagvicruvda.

daages gzebi, gaakeTes Sadrev-

nebi, warmatebiT gaatares po-

liciis reforma, magram uSua-

lod sazogadoebas araferi

Segvetyo, kvlav gaWirvebulebi

varT. amitom mixeil saakaS-

vils odnav Tu goniereba Se-

morCenia unda wavides, winaaRm-

deg SemTxvevaSi, rogorc Se-

vardnaZes xalxi Tavad miabrZa-

nebs.

mzia oRrapiSvili, `qa-rTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ qveya-

naSi sadac ar arsebobs samar-

Tali, samuSao adgilebi, moS-

lilia samedicino momsaxureba,

ganaTleba, xalxi SimSiliT

ixoceba da aseT dros roca vi-

Raca daxmarebis xels gamogiw-

vdis, miTumetes qarTveli SeiZ-

leba ar daeTanxmo. erTxel da

samudamod xom unda dasrul-

des saakaSvilis diqtatoruli

mmarTvelob. vfiqrob, batoni

biZina dagvexmareba da agvisru-

lebs `qarTul ocnebas~, rac

CemTvis piradad pirvel rigSi

samarTlianobasTan asocirdeba.

naTia ZirkveliSvili`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _ da-

axloebiT erTi wlis ukan dav-

tove `leiboristebi~, radgan

aRarafris imedi aRar mqonda.

xalxi xom unda mixvdes bolos

da bolos ufskrulisken mivdi-

varT, fasadur saxelmwifoSi

vcxovrobT. imedi gvaqvs bato-

ni biZinasi, igi imdenad warma-

tebuli adamiania, vfiqrob, ga-

uTvaliswinebel nabijs ar ga-

dadgams. xelisuflebis nabi-

jebs rac Seexeba aris sruli-

ad uzneo da Sokur situacia-

Si Cavardnili adamianis qcevaa

sabednierod, sikeTe yovelTvis

amarcxebs borotebas da qarT-

veli xalxi aucileblad gai-

marjvebs.

ramaz berianiZe, `qar-

Tuli ocnebis~ wevri _ wlebis

ganmavlobaSi `leiboristuli

partiis~ aqtivisti viyavi da

`vardebis revoluciis~ dros

davtove im imediT, qveyanaSi

situacia Seicvleboda, Tumca

amaod. biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-

Cenam politikuri procesebi

Ria, gamWvirvale gaxada da yve-

lafers saTaviso saxeli daar-

qva. sasurveli iqneba, batoni

biZina, Tu sazogadoebas daeyr-

dnoba da ara romelime poli-

tikur Zalas. dameTanxmebiT,

arcerTi politikuri Zala se-

riozuli avtoritetiT ar

sargeblobs. kaci, romelic qa-

rTul tradiciul ojaxSi aRi-

zarda da ekonomikur, socia-

lur sakiTxebis gadawyvetisas

tyuili ar uTqvams, vfiqrob,

saqarTvelos gaiyvans im orbi-

taze sadac yvela adamiani bed-

nieri iqneba.

rusudan SurRaia,`qarTuli ocnebis~ wevri _

dRemde saqarTvelos momavals

arsebuli xelisuflebis piro-

bebSi pesimisturad vuyurebdi

da es mxolod Cemi mosazreba

araa. bevri adamiani fiqrobs

igives. Tumca biZina ivaniSvi-

lis gamoCenam sazogadoebaSi

rwmena gaaCina _ qveynis gadar-

Cenis.

qveyanaSi ar arsebobs samar-

Tlianoba, kanoniereba, ramdeni

xani SeiZleba vicxovroT ase.

rasakvirvelia, qarTuli ocne-

bis realobad gadaqceva SesaZ-

lebelia, magram mxolod iva-

niSvili verafers gaakeTebs Tu

sazogadoeba SiSis sindromidan

ver gamova.

_ ivaniSvili arCevnebis gz-

iT apirebs xelisuflebaSi

mosvlas. Tqveni azriT, ra San-

sebi aqvs?

_ nacmoZraoba xvdeba, rom

ganwirulebi arian, amitom cdi-

loben saarCevno kodeqsSi maT-

Tvis saTaviso kanonebi Cadon.

axla ukve saxelisuflebo ar-

xebi dRedaRam imas qadageben,

TiTqos `Tavisufali demokra-

tebi~ da `respublikelebi~ na-

tosa da evrokavSirSi Sesvlas

ewinaaRmdegebian, amis Semdeg

raze SeiZleba isaubro. faqtia,

ivaniSvilis gamoCenam xelisuf-

leba SokSi Caagdo.

inga xoStaria, `qarTu-

li ocnebis~ wevri: gaRatakebu-

li, gaubedurebuli. saqarTve-

losTvis biZina ivaniSvili bo-

lo imedia. Cven ivaniSvilis ga-

dawyvetilebas, Cixidan gamoiy-

vanos qveyana, pativs vcemT da

mxardamWeras vucxadebT. biZi-

nas aqamde qarTveli xalxisT-

vis arasdros uRalatia da

darwmunebuli var, igive gzas

gaagrZelebs. bolos da bolos

xalxi unda mixvdes, saakaSvi-

lis xelisuflebis pirobebSi

kargi araferi gvelodeba.

sazogadoebrivi moZraobis

wevri ukve gaxda nato mur-vaniZe. msaxiobma miRebulli

gadawyvettillebis dettallebsa da

gegmebze `saerTo gazeTTan~

isaubra.

_ qalbatono nato, rogor

SeafasebT qveyanaSi Seqmnil

mdgomareobas esaa progresis-

ken Tu regresisken mimavali

procesi?

_ gulwrfelad getyviT,

mimdinare wlebma didi uimedoba

gamoiCina. biZina ivaniSvilis po-

litikaSi gamoCeniT situacia

sruliad Seicvala. igi wle-

bis ganmavlobaSi uangarod

exmareboda saqarTvelos da

qarTvelobas. es ar iyo wina-

saarCevnod politikaSi wasas-

vlelad gamiznuli adamianis

nabiji. biZina maqsimalurad

cdilobda misi qvelmoqmedeba

afiSirebuli ar yofiliyo da

swored esaa procesi _ akeTo

saqme uangarod.

dRevandeli gadawyveti-

lebac biZina ivaniSvilis

mxridan aseTive qvelmoqmedebaa.

man uari Tqva bevr rameze

imisTvis, rom adamianebi,

vinc uaimedod viyaviT, ime-

di gagvCenoda. politikuri

opoziciis warmomadgenlebi,

vinc ivaniSvilma partnio-

rebad daasaxela, is parti-

ebia, visac arCevnebze xmas

yovelTvis vaZlevdi. bednie-

ri viyavi, roca es gadawy-

vetileba movismine, vfiq-

rob, ivaniSvilis mxridan

swori gadawyetileba iyo.

_ ram mogcaT biZgi

`qarTul ocnebaSi~ gasa-

wevrianeblad?

_ marTalia, uaxlesi

istoriis tragikuli epi-

zodebi piradad me da Cems

ojaxs ar Segvxebia, magram es

ar niSnavs, rac saqarTveloSi

xdeba, CemTvis sulerTia.

frTxilad vudgebi yvelafers,

miTumetes gancxadebebis gake-

Tebas. amitom ar vityvi, TiT-

qos `qarTuli ocneba~ Cemi yve-

laze didi da ukanaskneli ime-

dia. mTavaria, janmrTeli pro-

cesi daiwyo da es ukve kargia,

magram ukan dasaxev gzas ar

viWri, radgan bevri imedgacru-

eba minaxavs. bevrjer yofila

mowodebebi, gaerTianebebi, Tum-

ca bolomde miyvanili saqme

arasodes. piesas roca vkiTxu-

lob, vici sadaa misi dasawyisi

da dasasruli. warmogidgeniaT,

muSaoba daviwyo iseT piesaze,

romelsac daboloeba ar aqvs?

am SemTxvevaSi, ar mecodineba,

rogor ganvaviTaro Cemi perso-

naJi. igive situaciaa nebismie-

ri saqmis dawyebisas. adamiani

roca raRacas iwyebs, dasaxu-

li unda hqondes mizani `a~

punqtidan `b~, winaaRmdeg Sem-

TxvevaSi, warmatebas ver miaR-

wevs. piradad `qarTul ocneba-

Si~ es mizani davinaxe, amitom

maqvs didi molodini.

_ rom ara ivaniSvilis fi-

nansuri resursi, eqneboda ase-

Ti mxardaWera?

_ arian adamianebi, romle-

bic mTeli cxovreba qvelmoqme-

deben. Tumca amgvari mxardaWe-

riT ar sargebloben. vfiqrob,

am SemTxvevaSi saqme ufro pi-

rovnul TvisebebTan gvaqvs.

erT magaliTs movitan: 5 wlis

ukan poloneTSi viyavi samuSa-

od miwveuli da iq batoni bi-

Zinas istoria movyevi. saqarT-

veloSi arsebobs adamiani, ro-

melic TvaliT aravis gvina-

xavs, magram gagviremonta Te-

atrebi, Segviqmna komfortuli

garemo da amasTan, damatebiT

xelfassac gvixdis _ meTqi.

yvela gaognebuli darCa. es

marTlac warmoudgenelia da

arsad ar xdeba. marTalia,

sxvadasxva organizaciebs bil

geitsi da sxva qvelmoqmedebic

exmarebian, magram im qveynebSi

keTili saqme ar ibegreba. sa-

qarTveloSi ki yvelanairi qve-

moqmedeba solidurad ibegreba.

yvelaze metad rac ivaniS-

vilis gamosvlaSi damamaxsovr-

da: unda `yvelaze didi niWi

isaa, icxovro ise, rom mezobe-

li ar Seawuxo~. maqsimalurad

unda vecadoT vicxovroT am

principis gaTvaliswinebiT da

vfiqrob, yvelaferi kargad iq-

neba.

miranda nabaxteveli

mxolod biZina ivaniSvili verafers gaxdeba,

sindromisgan ar ganTavisuflda

ixileT `saerTo gazeTi~

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10 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

bbiiZZiinnaa iivvaanniiSSvviillmmaa xxeellii-

ssuufflleebbiiss ggaaddaawwyyvveettiilleebbaa mmoo-

qqaallaaqqeeoobbiiss CCaammoorrTTmmeevvaassTTaann

ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT kkaannoonniieerreebbiiss

CCaarrCCooSSii mmooaaqqcciiaa ddaa ssaammaarrTT-

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vviilliiss aaddvvookkaattii zaqariaqucnaSvili::

_ am droisTvis mxareebi

SekiTxvebis dasmis etapze

varT. mogexsenebaT, 5 dekem-

bers sasamarTloSi warvadgi-

neT dazustebuli sarCeli,

riTac Cveni moTxovnebi sa-

marTlebrivi sakiTxebis 6

blokze avageT.

__ kkoonnkkrreettuullaadd rraass eeffuuZZ-

nneebbaa ssaazzooggaaddooeebbrriivvii ssaakkiiTTxxee-

bbiiss 66 bbllookkii??

_ saboloo jamSi, isini

adastureben mixeil saakaSvi-

lis 2011 wlis 11 oqtombris

ukanono brZanebulebas.

prezidents uflebamosi-

leba ar hqonda gamoeca am

Sinaarsis aqti, radgan gamo-

naklisi wesiT moqalaqeobami-

niWebul pirze ar vrceldeba

saqarTvelos moqalaqeobis

Sesaxeb organuli kanonis 32

muxli, amitom mixeil saakaS-

vili gascda uflebamosile-

bis farglebs da gamosca uka-

nono samarTlebrivi dadgeni-

leba. amave dros xelisufle-

ba moqmedebda aramarTlzomie-

ri gziT. anu nebismier qmede-

bas iqneba es administraciu-

li Tu sisxlis samarTlebri-

vi, legitimuri mizani unda

hqondes. magaliTad, damnaSa-

ves roca vakavebT, viWerT

imisTvis, rom davicvaT sazo-

gadoebis usafrTxoeba da ara

imisTvis, rom misi dakaveba

gvsiamovnebs. anu nebismier

sajaro moqmedebas mizani un-

da hqondes. Sesabamisad, Cnde-

ba kiTxva, ra mizani hqonda

xelisuflebas biZina ivaniS-

vilis moqalaqeobis CamorT-

mevisas? pasuxi martivia _

politikuri.

mixeil saakaSvils ori

politikuri Tanamdeboba uka-

via: aris prezidenti da meo-

re `nacmoZraobis~ Tavmjdoma-

re. igi saxelmwifo Tanamde-

bobas iyenebs sakuTari parti-

is sasargeblod. icilebs

konkurents biZina ivaniSvi-

lis saxiT, amitom mizani

aralegitimuria. mixeil saa-

kaSvili moqmedebs ara saja-

ro interesebidan gamomdina-

re, aramed piradi, partiuli

interesebiT, rac seriozuli

darRvevaa.

biZina ivaniSvilisTvis mo-

qalaqeobis CamorTmeva dae-

fuZna postulats, TiTqos

gamonaklisi wesiT, saqarTve-

los moqalaqeobamiRebul

pirs aRar SeuZlia sxva qvey-

nis moqalaqeobis miReba. am

dros ki evropis konvencia

gveubneba: e.w. multimoqala-

qeoba mdgomareobs imaSi, rom

piri ukve aris sxva qveynis

moqalaqe da damatebiT damsa-

xurebis: aniWeb saqarTvelos

moqalaqeobas. ese igi apriori

uSveb imas, rom moqalaqeobis

miniWebamde ivaniSvili ukve

sxva qveynis moqalaqea, ami-

tom gaugebaria, ratom SeiZ-

leba, miniWebamde arsebuli

garemoeba moqalaqeo-

bis miniWebis Semdeg

arsebuli viTarebis

winaaRmdegobrivi ga-

xdes.

vTqvaT, preziden-

ti gadawyvetilebis

miRebisas kompetent-

uri iyo, xelisufle-

bis mizani konkret-

ul SemTxvevaSi, ka-

nonieri. sul rom ar-

aferi, moqalaqeobis

CamorTmevasTan dakav-

Sirebuli elementa-

ruli procedurebi

xom mainc unda daec-

vaT. magaliTad, ro-

goricaa sasamarTlo-

Si dainteresebuli piris ga-

mocxadeba, mtkicebulebis ga-

mokvleva da a.S.

__ ssaassaammaarrTTlloo pprroocceesszzee

aaddvvookkaatteebbmmaa oorrjjeerr ddaaaayyeenneeTT

mmoossaammaarrTTlliiss aacciilleebbiiss ssaa-

kkiiTTxxii,, rraa iiyyoo mmiizzeezzii??

_ rodesac mosamarTlis

aridebis sakiTxi davayeneT,

vmoqmedebdiT absoluturad

kanonierad. Tavis mxriv, mar-

Tlmsajulebis ganmxorciele-

beli piri valdebulia gana-

xorcielos kanonierebis mi-

zani, rac gulisxmobs misi

mxridan obieqturobasa da mi-

ukerZoeblobas.

advokatebs saqmis warmoe-

bis dros gagviCnda seriozu-

li eWvi mosamarTlis damou-

kideblobasTan dakavSirebiT.

Cven rodesac sasamarTlosgan

mtkicebulebebis gamoTxova

moviTxoveT, mosamarTlem Ta-

vis ganCinebaSi aseTi ram da-

wera: am procesTan dakavSire-

biT, me ukve Camomiyalibda

rwmena. samarTlebrivad, Sina-

gani rwmena aris Sexeduleba,

romelic mosamarTles proce-

sis dasrulebis Semdeg uya-

libdeba da Sinagani rwmena

da kanoni erToblivad gavle-

nas axdens saboloo gadawyve-

tilebaze. am qmedebiT mosa-

marTlem sakuTari Tavi gasca

da Tavisi subieqturoba daa-

dastura.

mosamarTlis acilebis sa-

kiTxi meoredac davayeneT da

Tqvenma mkiTxvelma gvinda

icodes mizezi. biZina ivaniS-

vilis procesisadmi sazoga-

doebis didi interesidan ga-

momdinare, moviTxoveT audio-

videoCanaweris ganxorciele-

ba, razec uari miviReT im mi-

zeziT, rom amas sasamarTlo

Tavadve uzrunvelyofda. Tum-

ca Semdgom davafiqsire mik-

rofonze wiTeli Suqis saSu-

alebiT, rom mosamarTle mxo-

lod Cven saubars iwerda da

sakuTar ganCinebas ara. pro-

cesze principulad moviTxo-

veT momxdarze pasuxi, Tumca

mosamarTlem sakmaod ucnau-

rad gvipasuxa, rom mas inst-

ruqcia aZlevs amis ufleba-

mosilebas. arc instruqciis

momcemi organo an piri, ri-

Tac ganCinebaSi xelmZRvane-

lobda, ar dausaxelebia. aman

kidev erTxel dagvarwmuna

mis subieqtur damokidebule-

baSi saqmis mimarT.

__ TTqqvveennii aazzrriiTT,, rraattoomm aarr

ddaakkmmaayyooffiillddaa TTqqvveennii mmooTTxxoovv-

nnaa mmoossaammaarrTTlliiss aacciilleebbaassTTaann

ddaakkaavvSSiirreebbiiTT??

_ biZina ivaniSvilis saqme

xelisuflebisgan politiku-

rad motivirebuli procesia.

mosamarTle SoTa gewaZe 9

Tvis ganmocdilebis mqone

iuristia. ratomRac mas Caa-

bares aseTi mniSvnelovani sa-

qme. rogorc Cans, cdian, kar-

gad imuSavebs _ datoveben,

ver imuSavebs da Tanamdebobi-

dan gaanTavisufleben.

__ rrooggoorr ffiiqqrroobbTT,, aaRRss-

rruullddeebbaa kkaannoonniieerreebbaa??

_ yvela argumenti gvaqvs

imisTvis, rom Tundac 30-40

procenti standartebis sasa-

marTlom obieqturi gadawyve-

tileba gamoitanos. Tumca

nulovani sasamarTlos piro-

bebSi, sadac Savze TeTrs am-

boben, molodini didi araa.

Cvens mxarezea simarTle, uam-

ravi argumenti da vfiqrobT,

simarTle gaimarjvebs.

miranda nabaxteveli

`biZina ivaniSvilis saqme politikurad motivirebulia procesi 9 Tvis

gamocdilebis mqone mosamarTles Caabares~

qarTveli leiboristebis

liderisagan winaTac araerTg-

zis gvsmenia mavanTa zRvargada-

suli kritika... magram misma na-

ubarma 9 dekembris avbediT Ra-

mes studia `maestroSi~ Jurna-

list Tea siWinavasTan yovelg-

var zRvars gadaaWarba.

batonma Salvam jer vaSing-

tonSi mis mier Cadenili `sagmi-

ro saqmeebis~ Sesaxeb gviambo:

pirdapir TeTr saxlTan, lamis

prezident obamas kabinetis sar-

kmelTan vlanZReT saqarTvelos

prezidentio. mere biZina ivaniS-

vils gadaswvda:

_ eg ra qvelmoqmedia, erTi

gadamamuSavebeli sawarmoc ki ar

gauxsniao. Tanac saqarTvelos

istoriaSi upirvelesi mecena-

tis mier gaweuli qvelmoqmede-

ba uaRresad arakoreqtulad mo-

ixsenia. qvelmoqmedi ki ara

gvelmoqmoqmediao!

ivaniSvilis srul naqvelmo-

qmedars cxadia, ver CamovTvliT.

maT Sesaxeb yvelas, maT Soris

baton Salvasac mSvenivrad mo-

exseneba. amitom mxolod erT ma-

galiTs SevaxsenebT:

SeuZlebelia mas wakiTxuli

ar hqondes batoni patiaSvilis

saintereso interviu, romelic

amaswinaT qarTul presaSi ga-

moqveynda.

maSin (am ociode wlis

ukan), rodesac saqarTveloSi

yvelafers Wridnen da ucxoeTSi

jarTad gahqondaT, biZina ivaniS-

vilma saqarTveloSi sakuTari

saxsrebiT SeZenili 450

traqtori Semoiyvanao,

_ brZanebs batoni jum-

beri.

ai, kidev erTi maga-

liTi: cnobil qarTvel

moRvawes baCana bregva-

Zes swored batoni biZi-

nas dafinansebiT Cau-

tarda mkurnalobis sr-

uli kursi. amis Semdeg

igi kvlav (sabednierod)

intensiurad agrZelebs

saqmianobas da qarTul

mwerlobasa da kultu-

ras araerTi didebuli

naSromi SesZina.

_ vekiTxebiT leibo-

ristTa liders:

_ batoni biZinas am keTili

saqmeebis Soreuli mizani, 450

traqtoris memanqanisa da bato-

ni baCanas daverbovkeba da arCev-

nebSi maTi gamoyeneba iyo?!

magram yovelive amiT rodi

amoiwura!

batonma Salvam imave studi-

aSi biZina ivaniSvilis mier fu-

lis Sovnis `saidumloebasac

axada farda~. da rodesac es ge-

neral lebedTan urTierTobasa

indoeTSi iaraRis ukanono vaW-

robas daukavSira, Cemda unebli-

ed, ukvdavi `daTa TuTaSxiadan~

erTi fraza gamaxsenda!

_ ra hqeni guduna es!... ra

hqeni guduna es!...

_ batono guduna... mapatieT,

batono Salva!

_ Tqveni versia biZina iva-

niSvilis mier fulis Sovnis

Sesaxeb, isevea axlos simarT-

lesTan, rogorc Cems mier sa-

xeldaxelod SeTxzuli erTi

gaxmaurebuli mkvlelobis ver-

sia, romelzedac axlave mogax-

senebT: `jer kidev 1960 wels,

leiboristuli partiis saidum-

lo serobaze Salva naTelaS-

vilma da iuri andropovma kene-

dis mkvleloba, xolo misi mSve-

nieri qvrivis Jakli-

nis onasisze gaTxove-

ba dagegmes~.

ase rom, maestros

gadacema mis uamrav

mayurebels erTi Cveu-

lebrivi saRamo gagvi-

fuWa, magram mTavari

es rodia. samwuxaro

is aris, rom gadace-

mis `gmirma~ _ Salva

naTelaSvilma, mgoni,

Zalze mZime rames _

politikur suicids

gamohkra xeli.

oTar kusianisaCxere

politikuri suicidi

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dRevandel xelisuufflebas tyuuilad

arr uuwodeben neobolSevikebs. rrogorrc

Cans, saakaSvilis rreJJimma komuunistebis

drroindeli bavSvTa koloniebis aRdgena

gadawyvita da Sesabamisi kanonprroeqqtic

`gamoacxves~. am TemasTan dakavSirrebiT

`saerrTo gazeTs~ uufflebadamcveli gi-orgi TevzaZe esauubrra.

giorgi TevzaZe: `xelisufleba

`zogadi ganaTlebis Sesaxeb~ saqarTve-

los kanonSi cvlilebebis Setanas api-

rebs. es kanonproeqti parlamentarma

jondi baRaTuriam warmogvidgina arasam-

Tavrobo seqtoris warmomadgenlebs da

parlamentarebTan erTad moxda misi gan-

xilva. es kanonproeqti saxelwodebiT

`saqarTvelos zogierT sakanonmdeblo

aqtSi cvlilebis Setanis Taobaze~ ara-

Tu dagvabrunebs Cvens komunistur war-

sulSi, aramed bavSvebisadmi midgomas

kidev ufro gaauaresebs da daamaxinjebs.

realurad es aris arasrulwlovnebis

specialur skola-pansionSi gadamisamar-

Tebis (gagzavnis) proeqti. xsenebuli

dawesebuleba aris raRac axali tipis

skola-internati, adre ZneladaRsazr-

delTa dawesebuleba rom iyo. sasje-

laRsrulebis dawesebulebis magvaria,

anu faqtobrivad es aris patimrobis

forma.

am kanonproeqtis Sesabamisi muxlis

Tanaxmad gadamisamarTeba, anu arasrul-

wlovanis skola-pansionSi gagzavna

xorcieldeba devianturi qcevis aras-

rulwlovnis mimarT, romelsac 10 we-

li Seusrulda da mimarTvidan 6 Tvis

manZilze ar Seusruldeba 18 weli. de-

vianturi qceva gamoixateba rTul an/da

antisazogadoebriv qcevaSi, romelic

aSkara safrTxes uqmnis arasrulwlov-

nis ganviTarebas, mis an sxva adamianebis

usafrTxoebas, keTildReobas an marTl-

wesrigs da vlindeba aranakleb 6 Tvis

manZilze.

am e.w. gadamisamarTebis gadawyveti-

lebas iRebs ganaTlebis saministrosTan

arsebuli multidisciplinuri jgufi

masSi Semavali qvejgufebis meSveobiT.

es qvejgufebi skolebSi ifunqcionirebs

da faqtobrivad, mandaturi da pedagogi

miiReben gadagzavnis gadawyvetilebas,

rac realurad arasrulwlovnis mimarT

ganxorcielebuli administraciuli we-

siT dasjaa.

10-dan 18 wlamde es is periodia,

rodesac bavSvi Camoyalibebis procesSia

da xSirad gauazreblad moqmedebs. 14

da miTumetes 10 wlis bavSvs rogor

unda mohkiTxo sakuTar qmedebebze kon-

troli. an ra ician maT ras niSnavs an-

tisazogadoebrivi qmedeba. komunistebis

drosac ki 14 wlis Semdeg dgeboda ss-

is pasuxismgeblobis piroba, Tumca

`vardosnebma~ es asaki 12 wlamde dawi-

es. saerTaSoriso organizaciebisa da

qarTveli uflebdamcvelebis daJinebu-

li moTxovniT, isev 14 wlamde gaizar-

da, magram axla es kanonproeqti Semo-

aqvT, romelic winaaRmdegobaSia aramar-

to saerTaSoriso konvenciebTan, aramed

qarTul ss-is saproceso kanonmdeblo-

basTanac~.

_ komunistur warsulSi dabruneba-

Si ras gulisxmobT?

_ aseTi dawesebuleba, _ ZneladaR-

sazrdelTa skola-internati komuniste-

bis dros cxinvalSi arsebobda, magram

igi faqtobrivad, ufunqcio iyo. Tanac

iq bavSvi 10 ki ara 14 wlis Sesrule-

bis Semdeg SeiZleboda gadaegzavnaT, Ta-

nac mxolod im SemTxvevaSi, Tu is mZi-

me kategoriis danaSauls Caidenda. bol-

Sevikebis dros ki hqondaT ZneladaR-

sazrdelTa dawesebuleba, sadac mcirew-

lovnebic xvdebodnen, magram es krimina-

lis Cadenisken midrekili upatrono

bavSvTa TavSesafari iyo. axla ki im bav-

Svebzea saubari, romlebsac ojaxi hyavT

da Tu mandaturs an pedagogs ar moewo-

na romelime bavSvi, danaSaulis Cadena-

ze aRarc aris saubari, SeuZlia am sko-

la-pansionSi ukras Tavi.

skolebSi direqciis mier sakuTari

neba-surviliT sadamsjelo RonisZiebis

gatarebis samwuxaro praqtika ukve

gvaqvs, Tundac 53-e skolis magaliTze.

am skolis direqtorma ukanonod dasaja

arasrulwlovani, skolidan garicxa da

am bavSvs sxva skolebic aRar Rebulo-

ben. Cemi informaciiT, im bavSvebis oja-

xebs, romlebmac gaaprotestes direq-

toris es yovlad miuRebeli saqcieli,

policia sistematurad akiTxavda. bavS-

vis aRzrdisadmi aseTi midgoma yovlad

dauSvebelia. momaval kriminalebs

vzrdiT Tu raSia saqme, aseTi saqcie-

liT maT xom gzidan acdenisken vubiZ-

gebT? bavSvs humanuroba da patieba un-

da vaswavloT, sakanSi ki ar unda gamo-

vamwyvdioT. Turme es arasrulwlovne-

bis gamosworebis mizniT keTdeba. es

aris sruli absurdi. Zalian meeWveba iq

vinme gamoswordes, miTumetes xsenebul

skola-pansionSi gamijnuli ar iqneba

mZime da naklebad mZime danaSaulis Ca-

denaSi SemCneuli arasrulwlovnebi iq

SecdomiT moxvedrili bavSvebisgan. Tan

Tu imasac gaviTvaliswinebT rogori da-

mokidebuleba aqvs amgvari dawesebule-

bebis administracias iq moTavsebulTa

mimarT, ar aris gamoricxuli sruliad

wesieri adamianic ki, miTumetes aras-

rulwlovani kriminalad Camoyalibdes.

ar SemiZlia am mandaturis insti-

tuts ar Sevexo. es aris policielebis

pirdapiri Casma aRmzrdelobiT dawese-

bulebebSi, anu faqtobrivad skolas,

policia akontrolebs. mandaturebis

Seyvanis aucileblobas imiT xsnian, rom

skolebSi Semcirda daWrisa da sxva da-

naSaulis Cadenis SesaZlebloba, magram

es sxva formiTac SeiZleboda gakeTebu-

liyo. ra Tqma unda, mandaturma SiSis

faqtori marTlac gamoiwvia, magram ra

daaSava im bavSvma, romelic kriminalu-

ri qmedebisken midrekili ar aris? ise

Tu aseTi kargi da mniSvnelovania man-

daturis instituti, maSin ratom ar

moqmedebs im amerikul skolebSi, sadac

gavleniani da cnobili xalxis Svilebi

swavloben? ramdenadac vici im ameri-

kul skolaSi, sadac prezident saakaS-

vilis vaJi swavlobs, mandaturebi ar

arian. Tu Tanasworobazea saubari, maSin

arc sajaro skolebSi unda iyvnen, Tu

arada im skolebSic Seiyvanon. darwmu-

nebuli var es drakonuli kanonproeqti,

romlis miRebasac apireben, am presti-

Juli skolebis moswavleebze ar gavr-

celdeba.

- gadamisamarTebis gadawyvetilebis

aRsruleba rogor moxdeba?

- Tu arasrulwlovani winaaRmdego-

bas gauwevs am gadawyvetilebas, socia-

luri muSaki uflebamosilia policias

mimarTos, anu bavSvi iZulebiT gadaiyva-

non. misma mSoblebma Tu uari Tqves ga-

dayvanaze, pirvel SemTxvevaSi, 500 la-

riT dajarimdebian. am winaaRmdegobis

ganmeorebis SemTxvevaSi 1000-1000 la-

riT. multidisciplinaruli qvejgufis

wevri administraciul samarTaldarRve-

vaTa oqms Seadgens da Sesabamisi kodeq-

sis mixedviT moxdeba dajarimeba. Tu es

Tanxa ojaxma droze ar gadaixada, cxa-

dia, sauravi daericxeba da SeiZleba

saxl-karic ki gaayidinon. arada am masi-

uri siduxWiris pirobebSi vin SeZlebs

mis gadaxdas. yvelaze kuriozuli ki is

aris, rom ojaxs gasaCivrebis ufleba

aqvs, magram am saCivar isev es multi-

disdisciplinuri jgufi ixilavs da ra

gadawyvetilebasac gamoitans, winaswar-

ve cnobilia.

mokled, es kanonproeqti yovlad mi-

uRebelia, radgan uxeSad arRvevs, ro-

gorc bavSvis saerTaSoriso konvencie-

biT gaTvaliswinebul uflebebs, ise sa-

qarTvelos konstituciasac. konstitu-

ciiTaa daculi ojaxis erTianoba, am

dros ki eseni bavSvs ojaxs wyveten.

aseTi skola-pansionati samtrediaSi

ukve yofila. male albaT sxva regioneb-

Sic gaxsnian. Tu es xelisufleba ase

zrunavs bavSvebis swor aRzrdaze, uam-

ravi miusafari bavSvia, romlebic Ria

cis qveS cxovroben da jer maT sacxov-

rebliT uzrunvelyofasa da swavla-ga-

naTlebaze ifiqron. es xom maTi uSua-

lo movaleobaa?

manana suxiSvili

Tu pedagogs an mandaturs, ubralod, `ar moewona~ bavSvi, SeiZleba,

mas ZneladaRsazrdelTa skola-pansionSi ukran Tavi ise, rom

mSobelma araferi icodes...

`maestros~ TTanamSromlebma prezidentis ssasaxlesTan

saprotesto aaqcia ggamarTessaqarTvelos prezidentis sasaxlesTan

telekompania „maestros“ TanamSromlebma da

damfuZneblebma saprotesto aqcia gamarTes

da mixeil saakaSvils kanonis aRsrulebis

uzrunvelyofisaken mouwodes. aqciis mona-

wileebi rusTavis mediis marTvis kompaniis

xelmZRvanelis erosi kiwmariSvilis da mi-

si dacvis wevrebis telekompania „maestros“

Senobidan gamosaxlebas moiTxoven.

„maestros“ damfuZnebel mamuka Rlontis

gancxadebiT, erosi kiwmariSvilis saxiT te-

lekompanias mixeil saakaSvili ebrZvis, misi

sasaxlis win aqciis Catareba mxolod ami-

tom gadawyda.

Rlontis gancxadebiT, msgavsi aqciebi

kiwmariSvilis telekompaniis Senobidan gan-

saxlebamde gagrZeldeba.

prezidentis administraciis win myofma

„maestros“ TanamSromlebma lenti Semoixvi-

es da maTi TqmiT, telekompaniis amJaminde-

li mdgomareoba simbolurad aseTi formiT

gamoxates.

saprotesto aqciaSi „maestros“ damfuZ-

neblebis garda politikosebi da arasamTav-

robo organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi imyo-

febodnen.

aqcias SeuerTdnen sxva mediasaSualebis

warmomadgenlebic.

mixeil ssaakaSvili ppresis jixurebis aaRebasTan ddakavSirebiT

komentars aar aakeTebssaqarTvelos prezidenti mixeil saakaS-

vili TbilisSi presis gamavrcelebeli ji-

xurebis aRebasTan dakavSirebiT mediasaSua-

lebebis mier gamoTqmul protestze Tavisi

poziciis gaxmaurebisagan Tavs ikavebs.

rogorc dRes prezidentis sasaxleSi

gamarTul tradiciul brifingze mixeil sa-

akaSvilis pres-sspikerma manana manjgalaZem

ganacxada, aRniSnul sakiTxze komentaris

gakeTeba ara prezidentis administraciis,

aramed adgilobrivi TviTmmarTvelobis or-

ganos prerogativaa.

manjgalaZis TqmiT, Jurnalistebma am sa-

kiTxze kiTxviT swored aRniSnul uwyebas

unda mimarTon.

biZina iivaniSvili jjon bbass SSexvda

biZina ivaniSvili saqarTveloSi aSS-iis

elCs jon bass Sexvda.

rogorc ,,medianiuss” biZina ivaniSvilis

pressamdivnos xelmZRvanelma nona yandiaS-

vilma ganucxada, Sexvedra dRes amerikis sa-

elCoSi Sedga da is daxuruli iyo.

,,saubari Seexo mimdinare problemebs,

maT Soris biZina ivaniSvilis moqalaqeobis

sakiTxs da bevr sxva sakiTxsac, romelic

dRis wesrigSi dgas da problemulia. aseTi

sakiTxi ki sakmaod bevria” _ aRniSna yandi-

aSvilma.

`medianiusi~

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`̀saerTo gazeTi~ amjerad

erisaTvis yvelaze mtkivneul

Temaze saxelmwifo enis _ qqar-

Tuli enis savalalo mdgomare-

obaze iwyebs diskusia. enis sa-

kiTxi mxolod enis sakiTxs uk-

ve raxania gascda da qqveynis

yofna-aaryofnis sakiTxSi gadai-

zarda. vin varT, ra perspeqqtiva

gvelis da ra safrTxeebis mata-

rebelia xelisuflebis e.w. qqvey-

nis Senebis politika am Temebze

`̀konsiliumSi~ cnobili poeti

da publicisti, `̀saerTo gaze-

Tis~ mTavari redaqqtori vax-tang xarCilava gvesaubreba::

_ yvelas kargad gvaxsovs

cnobili formula: `qarTlad

friadi qveyanai aRiracxebis, sa-

dac qarTul enaze locva aRev-

linebis da Jami Seiwirvis...~,

anu saqarTvelod is teritoria

SeiZleba vigulisxmoT, sadac

vrceldeba qarTuli ena. am fra-

zis mTqmelma saxelmwifos

sazRvrebi, saxelmwifoebrioba

iqamde SemosazRvra, sadamdec

swored es ena vrceldeba. ena

saxelmwifos sazRvrebis momniS-

vneli, momsazRvrelia. xolo sa-

dac qarTuli enis statusi ar

vrceldeba _ is sxva saxelmwi-

foa. dRevandel saqarTvelos am

kuTxiT Tu SevxedavT, gamodis,

rom dRes Cven saxelmwifo ar

gvaqvs. es ar vrceldeba is te-

ritoriuli mTlianoba, rasac

dRes saqarTvelos veZaxiT, rad-

gan sinamdvileSi Tbilisidan

ramdenime kilometris daSore-

biT qarTuli ena saxelmwifo

ena ar aris, locvaze rom aRa-

raferi vTqvaT, iq qarTuli enis

arsebobis saWiroebac ki ar

aris. aviRoT, Tundac e.w. samx-

reT-oseTis teritoria, sadac

saqarTvelos saxelmwifo ena _

qarTuli rogorc saxelmwifo

ena maSinac ar vrceldeboda.

aRarafers vambob afxazeTze, sa-

dac qarTuli ena vrceldeboda

rogorc meore ena, magram prio-

riteti ar eniWeboda. rac See-

xeba, samcxe-javaxeTs, aq saer-

Tod ignorirebulia qarTuli

ena. es sakmaod TvalsaCino maga-

liTebia. magram, modiT im teri-

toriebs mimovavloT Tvali, sa-

dac qarTuli ena prioritetu-

lia. davsvaT kiTxva _ sad, ro-

mel teritoriebzea qarTuli

ena prioritetuli maSin, roca

saxelmwifo gveubneba _ mTava-

ria inglisuri enis swavlao,

nebismier vakansiaSi aucilebel

pirobad inglisuris da ara qar-

Tuli enis codnaa miTiTebuli

da a.S.

Cvens Tvalwin, ucebsaxelmwifo qarTuli

ena saqarTveloSive me-orexarisxovan enad iq-ca. rac Seexeba, xeli-suflebis damokidebu-lebas qarTuli, ro-gorc saxelmwifo eni-sadmi, Cemda gasakvi-rad absoluturad ag-resiuli da mtrulia.

am faqtis imiT gamarTleba,

rom globalizmis epoqaSi vcxo-

vrobT da amitom inglisur enas

saqarTvelos yvela moqalaqe un-

da flobdes, rac maT TiTqos

xels Seuwyobs saerTaSoriso

asparezze moRvaweobaSi da a.S.

gaugebaria. saakaSvilis dabade-

bamdec arsebobda gamoTqma-ram-

deni enac ici, imdeni kaci xaro.

magram am frazaSi namdvilad

aravis ugulisxmia sakuTari

enis ignorirebis xarjze daeuf-

leT sxva enebso.

rodesac sakuTarsaxelmwifo enas fexq-veS Telav da mas ukanaplanze swev, am drossxva danarCeni enebiscodna yovelgvar azrshkargavs.

rodesac sakuTari ena Sesis-

xlxorcebuli ar gaqvs, magram

am dros Zalian kargad ici,

vTqvaT Cinuri, inglisuri da

sxva, sinamdvileSi saqarTvelos

srulfasovan moqalaqed ar iTv-

lebi. xelisufleba yvelafers

akeTebs swored imisTvis, rom

ar viyoT Cvenive qveynis srul-

fasovani moqalaqeebi, rac gamo-

ixateba enisadmi mtruli da ag-

resiuli damoukidebulebiT. xe-

lisuflebas gaazrebuli ar

aqvs, ra Sedegebs miviRebT amiT

arcTu Soreul perspeqtivaSi.

magaliTad xelisuflebis erT-

erT uxeS Secdomas moviyvan:

parlamentma daamtkica kanoni

yvela ucxoenovani filmis qar-

Tuli titrebiT gaSvebis Taoba-

ze, rac realurad aZnelebs

mxatvruli filmis Semecnebas.

dameTanxmebiT Znelia, roca Tan

titrebs kiTxulob da amavdro-

ulad vizualuradac uyureb

films. amis mizani iyo qarTuli

mosaxleobisTvis yuri SeeCviaT

inglisuri enisTvis. sinamdvile-

Si am mcdelobam ukuSedegi ga-

moiRo, razec xelisuflebas sa-

erTod ar ufiqria. kerZod, mo-

saxleobis didma nawilma Tavi-

anTi televizorebi rusul ar-

xebze gadarTo, ase moiZebna mar-

tivi gamosavali. Sedegad mivi-

ReT is, rom inglisuris nacv-

lad ufro ukeT vswavlobT ru-

suls. es naTeli magaliTia imi-

sa, Tu ra mokle WkuiT azrov-

nebs xelisufleba. Tu Cven sa-

xelmwifos ki ara did super-

markets vaSenebT, maSin yvelafe-

ri gasagebia, magram Tu marTla

saxelmwifos Seneba gvinda, amis

mTavari RerZi, xerxemali _ sa-

xelmwifo enaa. rodesac xeli-

sufleba gveubneba bavSvma 5

wlis asakidan inglisuri enis

swavla unda daiwyoso, es niS-

navs, rom man inglisurad unda

aidgas ena, Seimecnos samyaro,

daiwyos azrovneba.

_ ra gamodis, rom saqarTve-

los xelisufleba araqarTvel

Taobas gvizrdis?

_ diax, swored ase gamodis.

kargad davakvirdeT _ rogor

Taobas uzrdis xelisufleba

qveyanas _ araqarTvels? xom sa-

interesoa, ra amoZravebs xeli-

suflebas? _ es pirdapir mibmu-

lia im tendenciebTan, im farul

mdinarebebTan, rasac xelisuf-

leba saqarTveloSi Tundac

ucxo tomelis SemosvliT ake-

Tebs. dRes, faqtobrivad saqar-

Tvelo karRia qveyanaa. nebismie-

ri erovnebis adamians _ Cinels,

Turqs, indoels da a.S. SeuZlia

uproblemod Semovides da aq

damkvidrdes. xelisuflebas ar

ainteresebs qarTveli erisgan

dakompleqtebuli mosaxleoba,

aramed adamianTa masa, rogorc

saarCevno eleqtorati. xom un-

da mivxvdeT bolos da bolos

ras akeTebs es xelisufleba? _

igi cdilobs garedan moizidos

adamianTa sakmaod didi jgufi,

masa, romelic misTvis iqneba ara

moqalaqe, aramed saarCevno xma.

rogorc dRes somexi, azerbai-

janeli hyavs, Cinelic, Turqic

da sxvac swored amisTvis sWir-

deba, rom sakuTar eleqtoratad

aqcios arCevnebSi. is, razec ax-

la Cven vsaubrobT, mas srule-

biT ar aRelvebs, anu ar ainte-

resebs qarTuli saxelmwifos

arseboba, romelic Tavis TavSi

qarTul sulier, kulturul,

erovnul Rirebulebebs gulisx-

mobs. mas ainteresebs mxolod

Zalauflebis SenarCuneba da ra-

dgan am saqmes qarTvelebi ar

hyofnis, ucxo tomis adamianTa

jgufebs ierTebs, riTac qarT-

vels nel-nela ucxo qveynidan

Semosuls uTanabrebs. es faru-

li da mtruli gegmaa.

_ ra viTarebaa am kuTxiT im

teritoriebze, sadac kompaqtu-

rad arian dasaxlebuli Cveni

moqalaqe azerbaijanlebi, somxe-

bi?

_ am mxrivac sakmaod rTuli

viTarebaa. vinmem scada maTi in-

tegracia qarTul sazogadoeba-

Si? _ ra Tqma unda ara. ra ga-

akeTaa am kuTxiT xelisufle-

bam? _ im motiviT da sababiT,

rom saqarTvelos yvela moqala-

qe Tanabari unda iyos, integra-

ciisTvis ki Turme mowmobaSi

erovnuli grafis arseboba yo-

fila xelisSemSleli faqtori,

adgnen da erovnebis grafa amo-

Sales. dagvrCa saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqe, romelsac arc erovneba

aqvs, arc mamis saxeli. amiT, vi-

Tom somexs, azerbaijanels uTx-

res Tqvenc saqarTvelos moqa-

laqeebi xarTo. ki, magram aqamde

ar iyvnen isini saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqeebi? somexs, azerbaijane-

ls orives aqvs Tavisi samSob-

lo, magram sad varT Cven, sad

aris Cveni samSoblo somexs, az-

erbaijanels ki amouSales ori-

ves grafidan erovneba, magram

maT orives saxelmwifo aqvT.

Cven gvaqvs sxva saxelmwifo?!

elementarulad, amogvSales er-

ebis siidan. amis Semdeg ciniz-

mia, roca amboben saqarTvelos

saxelmwifo ena qarTuliao. ga-

magebineT, ratom ar aris somxu-

ri an azerbaijanuli Cveni sa-

xelmwifo ena?! mova dro da es

sakiTxi realurad dadgeba. som-

xebma ukve Tqves ratom ar aris

somxuri regionaluri ena, Cven

ra, ar varT am qveynis moqalaqe-

ebio? azerbaijanelic igives

ityvis igi saqarTvelos momxma-

rebluri TvalsazrisiT uyu-

rebs, sadac SeiZleba moiyvanos

kargi mosavali, es misTvis ar

aris samSoblo. aravin ar uTx-

ra maT _ es Tqveni samSob-

loao. xelisuflebas es rom

ndomoda azerbaijanul da som-

xur skolebs ki ar daafinanseb-

da, aramed imaze izruneba, rom

am adamianebs qarTulad mieRoT

ganaTleba. dRes ki ra xdeba _

xelisufleba mezobel somxebs

da azerbaijanelebs kadrebs uz-

rdis, aq TavianT enaze ganaTle-

bas Rebuloben da mere codnas

TavianT qveyanaSi iyeneben. Cven

xelisuflebas ar aqvs interesi

sakuTari moqalaqeebi aRzardos.

aq dabadebuli, gazrdili some-

xi Tavs qarTvelad rom ar

Tvlis _ es misi ki ara, Cveni

bralia imitom, rom maT am siv-

rceSi umtkivneulo integrire-

bis saSualeba ar miecaT. arc

wina da arc axlandel xeli-

suflebas amis gakeTeba ar ain-

teresebda, Camoivlida somxeTis

prezidenti da mouwodebda som-

xebs SevardnaZisTvis miecaT xma,

mere saakaSvilisTvis xmis mice-

misken mouwodebdnen da a.S. es

xom xmebis sakmaod didi nawi-

lia, faqtobrivad ganmsazRvre-

lia saarCevno sistemis dros.

warmogidgeniaT, ra cinizmia,

Cveni amomrCeveli mezobeli sa-

xelmwifos prezidentebisgan

imarTeba. Cveni arCevnebia es? _

nuras ukacravad, varT. maTi sa-

winaaRmdego araferi maqvs, ub-

ralod amiT imis Tqma minda,

rom saxelmwifo ar gvaqvs. Cve-

ni damokidebuleba enisadmi ma-

xinji, arasaxelmwfieobrivia da

amis Sedegia, rom Cvensave qveya-

naSi samSoblos vkargavT. safr-

Txe, rac ukve realobad iqca

afxazeTsa da samxreT-oseTSi,

nebismier dRes SeiZleba moxdes

Cvens teritoriis erTi nawili,

romelic kompaqturadaa dasax-

lebuli araqarTveli mosaxleo-

biT da absoluturad araferi

akavebs, mezobel saxelmwifos

miuerTon. mere sadac ar unda

viCivloT, azri ar eqneba.

xelisuflebam gviTxra Tu

inglisuri ici saqarTveloSi

samuSaosac iSovi da kargadac

iqnebi, amisTvis sulac ar aris

saWiro codnao. amiT somexs

Sensken mosasvleli gza daux-

Ses. es gza qarTulis codnaze

gadis, sxvanairad somexi qarTve-

lamde ver mova. mTavari atribu-

ti, niSani, riTac am qveynis mo-

qalaqis statusi ganisazRvreba,

sakuTari saxelmwifo enis cod-

naa. Cven piriqiT davufinanseT

maT skola, somxuri saxelmwi-

foebrioba. da isini mere Tavi-

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13saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

anT samSobloSi midian ganaTle-

bulni. anu igi Tavisi mentali-

tetiT somexad darCa, ver gaqar-

Tvelda.

_ is problema, razec axla

Tqven saubrobT pirdapir kav-

SirSia qveynis saxelmwifoebriv

SenebasTan. xelisufleba obieq-

tebis gaxsnas gviTvlis saxelm-

wifos SenebaSi. ra realobaa si-

namdvileSi?

_ viRac-viRacebi gvatyueben

_ avaSeneT xidi, davageT gzebi,

anu qarTul saxelmwifos vaSe-

nebTo. xidebis, obieqtebis mSe-

nebloba ar aris sakmarisi atri-

buti saxelmwifos mSeneblobis-

Tvis. SeiZleba aSenebde gzebs,

xidebs da am dros, sinamdvile-

Si saxelmwifos angrevde. sa-

xelmwifo mxolod xidebis mSe-

nebloba ki ara, aramed kultu-

ruli, enobrivi, sulieri farse-

ulobebis konglomeratia, rome-

lic adamianebs saerTo miznebiTa

da amocanebiT aerTianebs. roca

am yvelafers xazs usmev da mxo-

lod xidebis Senebaze gaqvs aq-

centi, es xidi adamianebs saxel-

mwifos asaSeneblad ver gaaer-

Tianebs.

es samwuxaro rea-lobaa, romelSic didixania vimyofebiT danacvlad imisa, rom sa-zogadoeba dafiqrdesimaze, rom es qveyana uk-ve wagvarTves da axlaTandaTanobiT amis ga-daformeba mimdinare-obs, Cven raRac sisu-leleebze vlaparako-bT. qarTvel xalxs Seg-nebuli ar aqvs is rea-loba, romelSic dResimyofeba. es katastro-fuli realobaa. Cven kiam dros raRac Zalismier varT, faqtobri-vad dapyrobili qveya-na varT. dagvipyres,gagvaTaxsires, dagva-Coqes, gadagviares, Cv-en am dros viZaxiT ar-Cevnebi axlovdebao.risi arCevnebi axlov-deba? risTvis, ratomvirCevT vinmes, rocaaraferi gagvaCnia, argvaqvs saSualeba um-niSvnelo procesis wa-rmarTvisac ki. am sa-xelmwifoSi rac gag-vaCnda yvelaferi dav-kargeT. Tu xelisufle-bas qarTuli ena, jerkidev ar daviwynia, sW-irdeba imisTvis, romkargad Segaginos, Ca-recxili, gaTaxsirebu-li giwodos. gviginebsyvelafers da imis nac-vlad, rom xma aRvimaR-loT, gegmebs vala-gebT. ra gegmebs vala-gebT, rodesac qveyanaar gvaqvs, elementaru-lad ar varsebobT,amoSlili, amofxekilivarT, bodiSiT, magram

sakuTar qveyanaSi, sa-kuTar saxlSi gvaupa-tiureben. Cven umTavre-si _ Rirsebis grZnobadavkargeT. uRirsi ad-amiani orfexa cxove-lia da sxva araferi.dRes, Cven swored amsituaciaSi varT.

_ ra aris gamosavali qveynis

am rTuli viTarebidan gamoyva-

nis?

_ Seqmnili situaciidan

swori daskvnebi unda gavakeToT

da vTqvaT _ ase ver gagrZelde-

ba, veRar avitanT amden Seu-

racxyofaso. Tu ase ar moxdeba,

Zalian mcire xanSi gavqrebiT,

amas ar sWirdeba saukuneebi. de-

mografiulad katastroful vi-

Tarebas Tavi rom davaneboT,

mTavari ZarRvis amocla _ enis,

erovnulobis mospoba gagvaq-

robs. Cveni Taoba wava, modis ni-

Wieri axalgazrdoba, magram xe-

lisufleba maT eubneba _ ingli-

surenovani moqalaqe xaro. erT

ambavs mogiyvebiT, filologiis

fakultetze vswavlobdi, sadac

paralelurad rusuli enis gan-

yofilebac iyo. erTxel mcxeTis

jvarze avediT erToblivad. co-

ta rom SevzarxoSdiT leqsebis

kiTxva daviwyeT. erTi maTgani

atirda da Tqva _ qarTveli var,

yvelaferi mesmis, magram ver

vgrZnobo. anu man sakuTari enis

mimarT grZnoba dakarga. _

Tu Cven vapirebT sa-qarTveloSi inglisu-ri ena urTierTgagebi-nebis saSualebad gamo-viyenoT, maSin xelTSegvrCeba Semdegi viTa-reba _ inglisurenova-ni somxebi, inglisure-novani azerbaijanele-bi da inglisurenovaniqarTvelebi. Cndeba ki-

Txva _ ra hqvia im qveya-nas, sadac es inglisu-renovani xalxi cxov-robs?

Tanac, ena mxolod urTierT-

gagebinebis saSualeba xom ar

aris, amiT xar dakavSirebuli

Sens uZveles fesvebTan, saida-

nac modixar. roca es xazi gada-

iWreba, fesvebTan urTierTobas

hkargav, da ukve aRar xar is,

rac iyavi. am patara bavSvebma

SeiZleba ki ician qarTuli, mag-

ram grZnoba dakarges, ver

grZnoben enis sidiades, simSveni-

eres da mSobliurobas. amitom

ase gazrdili adamiani ar aris

qarTveli, ufro swored igi

falsificirebuli qarTvelia.

saxeli da gvari _ iarliyi

adevs garedan qarTvelis, sinam-

dvileSi qarTveli ar aris. vin

aris es qarTveli aseTio _ es

SeiZleba iman Tqvas, vinc qarT-

veli ar aris da genetikurad

sZuls yvelaferi qarTuli, sa-

qarTvelo. am dros saxeli da

gvari qarTuli aqvs, magram qar-

Tvelebi genetikurad sZuls.

genetika iseTi ra-maa, rasac verafersmouxerxeb. Tu ucxo ji-Sis xar, SeiZleba arcicode ise gZuldes is,vis rigebSic CagweresTu Caewere.

sxvagvarad ver vxsni im ag-

resias, mtrobas, ubedurebas, si-

Zulvils, rac am sruliad ara-

pativcemulma xelisuflebam sa-

qarTvelos mosaxleobas daatexa

Tavs.

_ saubris dasawyisSi Tqven

saqarTveloSi ucxo tomebis Se-

modinebaze isaubreT. problema,

albaT isicaa, rom Semodis yve-

la qarTvelis garda. qarTveli

ucxo qveynidan samSobloSi ve-

Rar brundeba. ras niSnavs es?

_ diax, esaa swo-

red Cveni ubedureba,

rom xelisuflebis

uniaTobis gamo ucxo

qveyanaSi gadaxvewili

qarTveli samSobloSi

ar ki ara, ver brun-

deba. yvela, ucxo to-

mis moqalaqes SeuZ-

lia Cvens qveyanaSi

Semosvla, miwis yidva,

aq darCena da damkvid-

reba, qarTvels ki _

ara. wasuli qarTve-

lis ukan dabruneba,

sinamdvileSi aravis

ainteresebs.

ar unda dagvaviwy-

des erTi mniSvnelo-

vani detali _ vinc

qarTuli universite-

tis saTaveebTan idg-

nen, maT umravlesobas

ganaTleba rusul ena-

ze hqondaT miRebuli,

magram SesaniSnavad

icodnen, rom es qar-

Tul saxelmwifos Se-

nebisTvis sakmarisi ar

iyo. axlandeli xeli-

suflebis paTosi ase-

Tia _ umetesobam

ucxo qveynebSi ingli-

sur enaze daamTavres

universitetebi da

Tvlian, rom amitom

inglisad unda gadaa-

keTon samSoblo. ase,

rom Cveni winaprebic

aaSenebdnen rusule-

novan universitetebs,

magram es xom ar iqne-

boda saqarTvelosT-

vis gaweuli samsax-

uri? maT ubralod

ganaTleba miiRes ru-

sulad da meti arafe-

ri. Tu ginda qveyana

aaSeno, es Sens enaze

unda gaakeTo.

axalgazrdobis pe-

riodSi maxsovs ro-

gori qarTuli iTvle-

boda qalaqelobis

dasturad. qarTveli,

Tbiliseli kaci qar-

Tulad somxur kilo-

ze saubrobda. qarT-

velma imdenad dakarga

qarTuli cnobiereba,

mis Tanaqalaqel so-

mexs mibaZa. imis nacv-

lad, rom somexi ga-

qarTvelebuliyo, qar-

Tveli gasomxda. sam-

wuxarod, Cven men-

talurad gasomxebu-

li dedaqalaqi gvaqvs.

es politika razec

mogaxseneT somxuri

da ara qarTuli po-

litikaa. es ar aris

qarTuli saxelmwi-

fos politika. es

aris Semogdebuli,

Semoparebuli poli-

tika, romelmac iqamde

migviyvana, rasac afxa-

zeTSi ZmaTamkvleli

omi hqvia. vin ibrZoda

iq qarTvelebis wina-

aRmdeg yvelaze daun-

doblad? _ somexi.

xxmmaa kkaattaammoonnTTaann

o, enav Cemo,

dedao enav,

Sen Cveno niWo,

srbolav da frenav,

Sen, Cveni sunTqvis dido alamo,

Sen, WirTa CvenTa tkbilo malamo,

Sen, kiro CvenTa qvaTa da kirTa,

Sen erTi SemrCi samaris pirTan.

naTesavs aTass

megobars aTass,

mrudsa da marTals,

mterTa da ZmaTa

davSordi,

morCa,

yvela moTavda,

mSvidoba vuTxar yvela mokvdavTa.

mxolod Sen ukvdavs,

mxolod Sen marads,

Sen _ erTs,

Sen ver gTmob

samaris karad.

Tu ram mze mwamda,

Tu ram mze mwvavda,

utkbiles dReTa

utkbiles wamTa,

utkbesi Sen xar, enav dedao,

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tkbilo sevdao,

Sen, yovelis mTqmelo,

yovelis ar mTqmelo,

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brZeno qarTvelo,

warsulis Zeglo, win gamxedavo.

qvesknelSi mZromo,

caSi mWvretelo,

xan _ funjo Cemo, xan _ saWreTelo.

Sen, akvnis himno,

cremlo samaris.

iberis enav,

enav Tamaris.

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srbolav da frenav,

dedao enav, dedao enav!

daeces, iqneb simagre yvela,

moisras, iqneb, yvela yma velad,

daedos mtveri yvela did xsovnas,

daakvdes azri napovnis povnas.

yovel nergs, iqneb, daatydes mexi,

yovel Zegls, iqneb, daedgas fexi,

mxolod Sen uWknobs,

Sen xatad qceuls,

ra dro, ra dascems

Sens ukvdav sxeuls?

o, enav Cemo,

dedao enav,

Sen, Cemo niWo,

srbolav da frenav,

Sen, Cveni sunTqvis dido alamo,

Sen, WirTa CvenTa tkbilo malamo,

Sen, kiro CvenTa qvaTa da kirTa,

Sen erTs,

Sen ver gTmob

samaris pirTan.

14 gv.

irakli abaSiZe

`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromiasuli wminda, gonebaze rom

moxvide asi aliyuri ginda!~

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14 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

iliam ki Tqva _Cveni Tavi Cve-

nadve gveyudneso. magram ragv-

Wirs, saerTod uTavod davr-

CiT?! anda ratom gvaqvs midre-

kileba iqiTken, rom Tavi ki

gvinda mxrebze gvedgas, magram

amavdroulad gvinda, rom Tavi

sxvam dagvadgas? _ an rusma, an

somexma, an makkeinma, an obamam.

ai, xom dagvadges Tavi da vinc

es gaakeTa, swored man dakarga

is 20 procenti. sinamdvileSi

Cveni teritoriis 20 procenti

ki ara _ 40 procentia dakargu-

li. ar aqvs mniSvneloba Semodis

Tu ara teritoria Sens adminis-

traciul sazRvrebSi, roca igi,

enobrivad dakargulia, misi Se-

narCunebis perspeqtiva nulis

tolia. RmerTma nu qnas da rai-

me ubedureba rom moxdes, yvela

Tavis wil wasaRebs waiRebs.

marto rusi ki ara, garSemo

myofi mezoblebic TavianT wi-

lebs waiReben. am dros ki imaze

vfiqrobT, rogor avametyveloT

Cveni bavSvebi inglisur enaze.

inglisuric unda icodes bavSv-

ma, rusulic, magram, pirvel

rigSi, igi qarTvelad unda ga-

zardo, Tu ginda, rom qarTuli

saxelmwifo SeinarCuno. uamravi

somexi megobari myavs da maTi

sawinaaRmdego araferi maqvs. aq

saubaria Cvens uTavbolobaze,

imaze rom saqarTveloSi mcx-

ovrebi araqarTvelebi vaiZuleT

gaucxoebuliyo, aravis araferi

gaukeTebia imisTvis, rom maT Ta-

vis samSobloSi egrZnoT Tavi.

saqarTveloSi dRes ori separa-

tistuli reJimi ki ar aris,

aramed imdeni separatistuli

reJimia aq, ramdeni religiacaa

dabudrebuli. baptistebi, ieRo-

velebi _ maT ukve TavianTi

kulturuli avtonomia aqvT.

Cven sad varT? eseni xom mainc

Cveni sisxli da xorcia, guSin

wavidnen Cvengan imitom, rom ver

da ar vupatroneT. aseve, ver vu-

patroneT saqarTvelos sayrdens

_ afxazeTis qarTvelobas. axla

iZaxian saqarTvelo uafxazeTod

ver Sedgebao. ki, magram Tavian-

Ti politikiT? Tavad ar Seuwy-

ves mis mokveTas xeli? ase, rom,

vfiqrob aseT situaciaSi gamo-

savali saerTod ar aris, garda

erTisa _ Tu Cven marTla eri

gvqvia, unda vTqvaT, rom eri

varT da rasac gvikeTeben amis

bolomde ganxorcielebis, amis

sisruleSi moyvanis uflebas ar

mivcemT. Tu eri varT amoviRoT

xma, Tu ara da CavqindroT Tave-

bi da gvirtyan panRuri. Tu Tav-

ganwirvisTvis, TavdadebisTvis

mzad ar xar da iolad ginda

fons gasvla, swored maSin da-

gajdebian Tavze da dagvajdnen

kidec. samwuxarod, migvixvdnen

Cvens xasiaTs, rom ar varT sam-

SoblosTvis Tavis gamwiravni.

_ xelisufleba yovelTvis

iSveliebs arguments, rom ing-

lisuri enis codna Cvens moqa-

laqes farTod gauxsnis gzas ev-

ropisken? risken swrafvaa es

sinamdvileSi?

_ inglisuri enis swavleba

saqarTvelos aRmSeneblobas nam-

dvilad ar Seuwyobs xels, mag-

ram samagierod xels uwyobs

erT rames _ qarTvelebis masob-

rivad gadinebas sazRvargareT,

raTa iq ufro advilad moewyon

Ramis WurWlis mzidavebad,

mrecxavebad da a.S. ai, amas ki

namdvilad Seuwyobs xels ing-

lisuris codna imitom, rom ro-

ca ori Reri inglisuri ici,

ufro Tamamad midixar ucxo qve-

yanaSi, magram qarTvels gaazre-

buli ar aqvs risTvis midis iq.

imis nacvlad, rom qarTvel ada-

mians stimuli mivceT samSob-

loSi darCenis, saqarTvelos

patronobis, piriqiT, qveynidan

wasvlisken vubiZgebT. aqiTkenaa

es yvelaferi mimarTuli. Cvens

miwa-wyalze qarTvelebis Seviw-

roeba xdeba, am miwa-wylis amT-

visebeli ukve gamoCnda.

_ mainc ras emsaxureba Cveni

xelisuflebis aseTi mondomeba

qarTvelis mentalitetidan qar-

Tuli enis amoZirkva da ingli-

suris damkvidreba?

_ Cveni xelisuflebis did-

ma nawilma qarTulad wera-

kiTxva ar icis. gamoitaneT maTi

nawerebi, CavutaroT gamocda

qarTuli weris karnaxSi, Tu Ca-

abareben, ki batono, iyvnen am

qveynis xelisuflebaSi, magram

Tu ver Caabareben, Tavi dagvane-

bon. darwmunebuli var 70 pro-

centi ver Caabarebs am gamoc-

das, parlamentarTa 80 procen-

tma SeiZleba karnaxic ver da-

weros normalurad da eseni ag-

viSeneben Cven qarTul saxelm-

wifos? daakvirdiT, rogor qar-

Tuls amkvidrebs satelevizio

arxebi _ frangul, inglisur

maxvils svamen qarTul sityveb-

ze. weRan mogiyeviT rogor gaa-

somxa somexma qarTveli SeumC-

nevlad. axla ki qarTveli cdi-

lobs gafrangdes, gainglisel-

des. ise isaubros qarTulad,

rogorc germaneli dailapara-

kebs Cvens enaze. anu es aris Za-

lian kargad gaazrebuli, kar-

gad mofiqrebuli, punqtobrivad

Camowerili gegma, rogor gaa-

Taxsiron qveyana. ena adamianis-

Tvis yvelaferia _ mentalite-

tic, fsiqikac, kulturac, war-

sulic da rodesac enas amogac-

lis xelisufleba, Sengan aRa-

raferi rCeba.

_ da bolos batono vaxtang,

Tqveni saubridan aSkarad ikve-

Teba, rom ilias cnobili tria-

didan _ ena, mamuli, sarwmunoe-

ba, aRaraferi dagvrCa.

_ araferi aRar gvaqvs, ili-

as triadaze ukve didi xania

uari Tqva qarTulma saxelmwi-

fom, es mxolod lamaz sityve-

bad darCa. Cven dRes, faqtobri-

vad apokalifsur situaciaSi

varT.

dRevandeli realo-ba Semdegia _ saqarT-veloSi yvelaze daCag-ruli, Seuracxyofili,daucveli da ufleba-ayrili swored qarT-velia. aseve, rogorcikveTeba, Cvens teri-toriaze arsebul ena-Tagan yvelaze nakle-bad popularuli dasaWiro qarTuli enaa.yovelive amis Semdeggasakviria, ratom hqv-ia Cvens qveyanas saqar-Tvelo. ar sjobs am te-ritorias `obSiJitie~davarqvaT?! kargad da-vufiqrdeT, risTvisgvWirdeboda damouki-debloba, ratom vibr-ZodiT Tavisuflebismosapoveblad. 200 wl-is manZilze qarTvelieri Tavisuflebiskeniswrafvoda. saintere-so ar aris, bolo-bo-lo ratom moviTxoveTdamoukidebloba dareferendumiT uarivTqviT sabWoTa kav-SirSi yofnaze, ra miza-ni gvamoZravebda? _ is,rom ukeTesad gvecxov-ra, ufro meti mosava-li _ kartofili, yur-Zeni, hibriduli simin-di mogveyvana, amisTvisviklavdiT Tavs damou-kideblobis miRebaze?sabWoTa kavSiris peri-odSi saqarTvelos mo-saxleoba, albaT yve-laze kargad cxovrob-da imitom, rom arse-bobda uzarmazari ba-zari, sadac yvelazeuxarisxo saqonelicki, rasac vawarmoeb-diT, uproblemod iyi-

deboda. qarTveli ka-cis niWierebas, gonsuzarmazari gasavalihqonda sabWoTa impe-riis teritoriaze. amyvelaferze uari vTq-viT da ganvacxadeT _damoukidebloba gvin-dao. dRes iciT ra ga-modis? _ Turme imisT-vis gvdomebia damouki-debloba, raTa ar gav-rusebuliyaviT, magramsamagierod unda gava-merikelebuliyaviT,gavingliselebuliya-viT. veravin damarwmu-nebs, ver damisaxelebTerT logikur argumen-tsac ki, rom garusebasgaamerikeleba, gaCine-leba da a.S. sjobs. ga-na, Cven amisTvis vibr-ZodiT?! ra mniSvnelo-ba aqvs maSin sad viqne-biT Tu Cvens erovnulTavisTavadobas, saxes,enas, rac mTavaria qar-Tvelobas davkargavT?amiT imis Tqma minda,rom yvelaze sanukvariocneba, rac qarTvelkacs odiTganve gaaCn-da _ Tavisufleba dadamoukidebloba, namd-vilad movipoveT, mag-ram mere veRar mivxv-diT risTvis unda ga-mogveyenebina es damou-kidebloba da rogorunda gveSenebina qar-Tuli saxelmwifo. am-is gakeTeba enis prio-ritetis win wamowevisgareSe, SeuZlebelia.eris faqtoris uaryo-fa, damoukidebeli qv-eynis aRmSeneblobas kiara, piriqiT, mis ngre-vas gamoiwvevs, rac uk-ve xdeba Cvens sinamdvi-leSi. rogorc ki, saku-Tar qarTul enas zur-gi vaqcieT, maSinve sa-xelmwifos rRveviskenmimarTuli procesebidaiwyo. es absolutu-rad Tanazomieria. da-skvnis saxiT SeiZlebaiTqvas, saxelmwifoena swored is xerxema-lia, ris garSemoc sa-xelmwifos sxeuli _Senoba Sendeba. sxvagva-rad misi Seneba SeuZle-beli, warmoudgenel-ia. rodesac kultura-ze, mwerlobaze, mecni-erebaze, adamianze vsa-ubrobT, es yvelaferienas eyrdnoba. warmo-udgenelia, qarTulikultura enis gareSeganviTardes. imedi ma-qvs, am Temaze saubars`saerTo gazeTis~ mom-devno nomrebSi gavagr-ZelebT, raSic kompe-tenturi da Tavisiqveynis gulSematkiva-ri adamianebi CaerTve-bian.

Tamar SveliZe(Temis gagrZeleba iqneba)

`ero, guli wagsvlia da gagwyromiasuli wminda, gonebaze rom

moxvide asi aliyuri ginda!~

13 gv.

dRes ,,,qarTuli oocnebis~ ddargobrivi jjgufis pprezentacia ggaimarTebadRes sazogadoebrivi moZraobis ,,qarTuli ocnebis” dargobrivi jgufis

_ ,,samarTlis sistema, adamianis uflebebi da marTlmsajuleba” prezentacia

gaimarTeba.

rogorc ,,medianiuss~ biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivnoSi ganucxades, sa-

zogadoebriv moZraobaSi Camoyalibda dargobrivi mimarTuleba, romelic sa-

marTlis sistemas, adamianebis uflebebs da marTlmsajulebas gulisxmobs.

,,am dargobrivi jgufis mizania Sesabamis sferoebSi Seqmnili viTarebis

analizi. jgufs sami ZiriTadi mimarTuleba aqvs. esenia: samarTlis sistema,

adamianis uflebebi da marTlmsajuleba.

prezentacias akademiuri wris, advokatTa gaerTianebis, uflebadamcvel-

Ta korpusis cnobili warmomadgenlebi daeswrebian” _ acxadeben pressamdivnoSi da dasZenen, rom

Tematur jgufebs uxelmZRvaneleben advokati ioseb baraTaSvili, media-ssamarTlis eqsperti aleq-

sandre baramiZe, arasamTavrobo organizaciebis warmomadgenlebi paata gaCeCilaZe, naTia kunwuraS-

vili, iuristi paata cnobilaZe da uflebadamcveli uCa nanuaSvili.

`medianiusi~* * *

xval, 21 dekembers, 14 saaTze sazogadoebrivi moZraoba qarTuli ocnebis iuridiuli jgufis

warmomadgenlebi saqarTveloSi akreditirebuli diplomatiuri korpusis warmomadgenlebs Sexvde-

bian. saubris Teba bolo periodSi biZina ivaniSvilis garSemo ganviTarebul movlenebi iqneba.

misamarTi: Tbilisi merioti, mirian mefis darbazi.

biZina ivaniSvilis pressamdivno

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15#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w. saerTo gazeTi

mmmmssssoooofffflllliiiioooo pppprrrreeeessssiiiissss mmmmiiiixxxxeeeeddddvvvviiiiTTTT

Tbilisi kvlav cdilobs,

2008 wlis movlenebze pasuxis-

mgebloba moskovs sasamarTlos

meSveobiT daakisros.

adamianis uflebebis evro-

pulma sasamarTlom warmoebaSi

miiRo saqarTvelos sarCeli

moskovis winaaRmdeg. analogiu-

ri sarCeli, romelsac haagis

sasamarTlo ganixilavda, uar-

yofilia. eqspertebs miaCniaT,

rom evropuli sasamarTlos

verdiqts mniSvnelovanwilad

gansazRvravs evrokavSiris ko-

misiis daskvnebi, romelTa mi-

xedviTac konfliqti swored

saqarTvelos mizeziT daiwyo.

wardgenili sarCeliT, sa-

qarTvelo iTxovs, ruseTi 2008

wlis omSi da Semdgom _ `afxa-

zeTisa da samxreT oseTis oku-

paciis periodSi~ evropuli

konvenciebis ramdenime muxlis

darRvevaSi daadanaSaulos.

saqarTvelo waradgens ro-

gorc mtkicebulebebs, agreTve

mowmeTaACvenebebsac, _ acxadeben

qarTuli mxaris oficialuri wa-

rmomadgenlebi. jerjerobiT uc-

nobia, rodis daiwyeba es proce-

si, romelSic ruseTic, rogorc

mxare, monawileobas miiRebs.

evropul sasamarTloSi sa-

qarTvelos saCivris ganxilva

seqtemberSi daiwyo; saqarTve-

lom sasamarTlos jer kidev

2008 wlis agvistoSi, samxreT

oseTis konfliqtis dasrulebis

dRes mimarTa. Semdgom, samjer

Seavso saCivari: 2009 wlis Te-

bervalSi, SarSan martSi da

wleuls ivnisSi. sarCeliT,

Tbilisi moskovs bralad debs

`ruseTis armiis mier saqarT-

velos regionebis _ afxazeTisa

da samxreT oseTis samoqalaqo

sazogadoebis sicocxlisa da

qonebis xelyofas~.

dokumentis Tanaxmad, ru-

seTma daarRvia ramdenime muxli

sicocxlis uflebis Sesaxeb,

wamebisa da damamcirebeli mopy-

robis akrZalvis Sesaxeb. saqar-

Tvelos mtkicebiT, ruseTma da-

arRvia agreTve: Tavisuflebisa

da piradi xelSeuxeblobis,

kerZo da ojaxuri cxovrebis,

samarTlebrivi dacvis efeqtiani

saSualebis, sakuTrebisa da ga-

daadgilebis uflebebi.

sxvaTa Soris, strasburgis

sasamarTlos 2008 wlis konf-

liqtTan dakavSirebiT,samxreT

oseTis 3300-ma mcxovrebma mi-

marTa. sarCelebis naxevarze me-

ti aRiarebulia rogorc legi-

timurobis uflebis mqone da

evrosasamarTlo maT ganxilva-

sac apirebs.

TbilisSi seqtemberSive ac-

xadebdnen, rom sasamarTlos uk-

ve warudgines imis mtkicebule-

bebi, rogor irRveoda `sistema-

turad da farTo masStabiT~

uSualod ruseTis samxedroebis

an maTi mxardaWeriT waqezebuli

marionetuli samxedro formi-

rebebis mier adamianis uflebebi

im teritoriaze, romelsac ru-

seTis federacia akontrolebs.

im periodSi, ruseTma am

braldebebs `usafuZvlo da da-

udasturebeli SesaZlo mtkice-

bulebebi~ uwoda. `ruseTis fe-

deraciis samxedro Zalebi Tavs

aravis dasxmia. isini samxreT

oseTis samoqalaqo mosaxleobas

saqarTvelos agresiisgan icavd-

nen. amjerad, saqmis ganxilvisas

mxareebi kvlav waradgenen Tavi-

anT argumentebs.

saqarTvelo gaeros saerTa-

Soriso (haagis) sasamarTloSic

cdilobda ruseTis dadanaSau-

lebas: 1993 wlidan moyolebu-

li (1993 wlis seqtemberSi

damTavrda qarTul-afxazuri,

xolo ufro adre, 1992 wels

_ qarTul-osuri pirveli konf-

liqti) _ moskovi `iaraRis mo-

maragebiT, daqiravebuli mebrZo-

lebiTa da ruseTis SeiaraRebu-

li Zalebis samxedro Tavdasx-

miT, afxazeTisa da samxreT ose-

Tis separatistul Zalebs qar-

Tvelebis eTnikur wmendaSi

uwyobda xels~.

haagis sasamarTlom es sarCe-

li ar miiRo. man saqarTvelos

SesTavaza, Tavisi pretenziebi

uSualod ruseTTan ganexila da

Tu es mcdeloba uSedego aRmoCn-

deboda, sarCeli xelaxla Seetana.

mixeil saakaSvilis mTavro-

bisTvis msgavs sasamarTloebs,

uwinaresad, politikuri mniSv-

neloba aqvs. saqarTvelo yvela

saerTaSoriso organizaciaSi

samxreT oseTsa da afxazeTSi

momxdari movlenebis sakuTari

versiis lobirebas eweva. da ar-

cTu uSedegod _ termini `oku-

pacia~ ukve gaCnda evroparla-

mentisa da sxva saerTaSoriso

institutebis gancxadebebSi.

Tbiliss imasac hpirdebian,

rom sasamarTloebSi gamarjveba

mas saSualebas miscems, mosko-

visgan `rusuli agresiis~ dros

dazaralebulTaTvis kompensa-

cia miiRos. winaswar ar amboben,

Tbiliss kompensaciis ra mocu-

loba daakmayofilebda.

saqarTvelos yofili premi-

er-ministri Tengiz sigua darw-

munebulia, rom evrosasamarT-

los verdiqti iqneba daaxloe-

biT 50X50-ze. evrokavSiris

2009 wlis komisiam konfliqt-

ze pasuxismgebloba daakisra

rogorc saqarTvelos, aseve ru-

seTs _ ruseTi sababs eZebda sa-

qarTveloze Tavdasasxmelad, sa-

qarTvelom ki, samxreT oseTis

dabombviT, aseTi sababi misca.

aseTia saerTaSoriso eqspertTa

Sefasebebi da amitomac sasamar-

Tlo gadawyvetilebas am komi-

siis daskvnebis safuZvelze mii-

Rebs.

qarTvel politologTa erT

nawils ki miaCnia, rom 2008

wlis konfliqtis istoriuli

Sedegebi sjobs `mrgval magi-

dasTan~ _ dialogis saxiT gani-

xilebodes da ara sasamarTlo

darbazebSi. mTavaria ara sasa-

marTlos gadawyvetileba, ara-

med qarTvelebisa da afxazebis,

qarTvelebisa da osebis daax-

loeba. sasamarTlo ar aris di-

alogis saukeTeso forma. Tanac,

saerTaSoriso sasamarTlos ga-

naCens yovelTvis rodi asrule-

ben.

moskovSi varaudoben, rom

SesaZloa, evrosasamarlos es

procesi ruseTze zemoqmedebisT-

vis gamoiyenon. ruseTis polit-

mimomxilvelTa azriT, SemTxve-

viTi ar aris, rom sarCeli swo-

red axla _ ruseTis winasaar-

Cevno ori kampaniis SualedSi

miiRes. sasamarTlos gadawyveti-

leba iqneba erT-erTi elementi,

romliTac ruseTis xelisufle-

baze zemoqmedebas Seecdebian.

vz.ru

sabWoTa kavSiris daSla sa-

qarTvelos samoqalaqo omad,

teritoriebis dakargvad da

ekonomikis rRvevad daujda,

Tumca nanatri damoukidebloba

mainc moipova.

saqarTvelom damoukideblo-

ba jer kidev sabWoTa kavSiris

oficialurad daSlamde gamo-

acxada da 1991 wlis maisSi

zviad gamsaxurdia suverenuli

respublikis pirvel preziden-

tad airCies. maleve gairkva,

rom yofil sabWoTa disidentsa

da erovnul-ganmaTavisuflebe-

li moZraobis erT-erT mTavar

wambiZgebelze fsonis dadeba

wamgebiani aRmoCnda: qveyana myi-

sierad gadaiqca srul çàõîëó-ñòüå sruliadoficialurad ga-

mocxadebuli lozungiT: `saqar-

Tvelo qarTvelebisTvis!~.

damoukidebeli respubliki-

dan `tvinebisa da xelebis~ ma-

sobrivi gadineba daiwyo, Tanac

ara marto `satitulo eridan~.

xalxi ZiriTadad gaeSura ru-

seTisken, romlisganac arcTu

didi xnis win gamoqcevas la-

mobda: sabWoTa kavSiri xom ara

yofil `Tavisufal~ respubli-

kebTan, aramed yovlismocveli

moskovis diqtatTan asocirde-

boda.

zviad gamsaxurdias mosv-

lasTan erTad samoqalaqo omi

gaCaRda, romlis Sedegebi tra-

gikuli iyo TviTon preziden-

tisTvis: jer Camoagdes, Semdeg

ki an mokles an Tavi moikla.

saqarTvelos gamoeyo ori regi-

oni _ samxreT oseTis avtono-

miuri olqi da afxazeTis avto-

nomiuri respublika. mogviane-

biT, lamis aWarac `gafrinda~ _

saqarTvelos mesame prezidentma

mixeil saakaSvilma jer meore

prezidenti eduard SevardnaZe,

Semdeg ki aWaris avtonomiis me-

Tauri aslan abaSiZe Camoagdo.

2008 wlis omis Sedegad ki sa-

qarTvelos teritoriaze ori

damoukidebeli respublika gaCn-

da.

qarTuli damoukideblobis

pirveli cameti weli yofil

sabWoTa respublikebTan ekono-

mikuri urTierTobebis rRveviT,

mwvave energetikuli krizisiT,

wlis ganmavlobaSi biujetis

samjer sekvestriT da xazinis

qurdobiT gamoirCeoda. imata

danaSaulma, yoveldRiurad ada-

mianebis motacebam; samagierod,

`demokratia~ ulevi iyo: gaze-

TebSi Tavisuflad iwereboda

yvelaferi, razec da viszec mo-

indomebdnen. televiziiTac mra-

valserian siuJetebs gadascemd-

nen xelisuflebis naklovan mxa-

reebze, magram es ambebi mayureb-

lamde ver aRwevda Suqis arar-

sebobis gamo. mosaxleoba Tveo-

biT ver iRebda xelfass, pensi-

as, daxmarebas...

axla bevri fiqrobs, rom Se-

vardnaZe demokrati iyo, Tumca

`Secdomebic mosdioda~, xolo

misi sagareo politika ruseTi-

sa da dasavleTis dabalansebas

cdilobda. sabWoTa kavSiris sa-

gareo saqmeTa ministri, romlis

saqarTveloSi meored movlineba

ruseTma uzrunvelyo, TandaTa-

nobiT aRarc moskovisTvis iyo

misaRebi da aRarc vaSingtonis-

Tvis: ori batonis samsaxurma

igi CixSi moaqcia.

`vardebis revoluciam~ sa-

qarTvelos postsabWour mesame

epoqas daudo saTave. mas isto-

rikosebi ocdaaTi wlis Semdeg

Tu Seafaseben piruTvnelad,

Tumca dRevandeli xelisufle-

bis kritikosTa mtkicebiT, ko-

rufcia aRar arsebobs saSualo

da dabal doneze, xolo egreT

wodebuli `elituri~ korufcia

yvavis. miuxedavad amisa, aravis

mouva azrad, policiels, pro-

kurors an mosamarTles qrTami

SeaZlios, fuliT raime cnoba

iyidos, moewyos umaRles sas-

wavlebelSi...

xelisuflebas uyvars tra-

baxi, rom saqarTveloSi bizne-

sis dawyeba Zalzed iolia, rad-

gan aRar arsebobs saqmis biu-

rokratiulad gaWianureba da

rom igi liberalur reformebs

atarebs. strategiuli ganviTa-

rebisa da saerTaSoriso kvleve-

bis qarTuli fondis eqsperti

lado papava miiCnevs, rom qveya-

naSi `xSirad irRveva adamianis

ufleba kerZo sakuTrebis Sesa-

xeb. `Cveni ekonomika arc libe-

raluria da arc bolSevikuri

_ es aris neoliberalizmisa da

neobolSevizmis nazavi~, _ ga-

nacxada man vaSingtonSi, karne-

gis centrSi gamarTul konfe-

renciaze `samxreT kavkasia _

damoukideblobis 20 weli~.

eqsperti darwmunebulia,

rom `saqarTveloSi ekonomikuri

problemebi sabWoTa kavSiris

daSlis gamo ki ara, Cvenive

Secdomebis gamo gaCnda~. misive

azriT, saqarTvelom Tavisi eko-

nomikuri mdgomareoba unda Sea-

daros ara sabWoTa kavSiris pe-

riodisas, aramed aRmosavleT

evropis im qveynebisas, romle-

bic evrokavSiris Semadgenloba-

Si arian. Tanac, aucilebelia

gavarkvioT, `ratom CamovrCebiT

maT da ratom ver moaqvs Cvens

reformebs warmateba~.

romels warmatebazea lapa-

raki, roca qveyanaSi mwvavea Sem-

degi problemebi: umuSevroba,

socialuri uzrunvelyofa, jan-

dacvisa da ganaTlebis xelmisa-

wvdomoba. ukidureasd mZime

mdgomareobaSia soflis meurne-

oba, sofeli gaRatakebulia da

sabWoTaAperiodis sofelTan Se-

darebisas es erT-erTi yvelaze

didi kontrastia.

istoriis am etapze, qarTu-

li saxelmwifoebriobis (iseve

rogorc postsabWoTa qveynebis)

cxovelmyofelobasa da sicocx-

lisunarianobas ganapirobebs

qveynis pirveli piri. anu saqar-

TveloSi jer ver Camoyalibda

saxelmwifoebrivi da konstitu-

ciuri iseTi uryevi sistema,

romelic stabilurad uzrunve-

lyofda mis ganviTarebas, miuxe-

davad imisa, vin aris saxel-

mwifos meTauri. es saqarTve-

los umTavresi problemaa.

rosbalt.ru

zemoqmedebis erT-erTi elementi

saqarTvelo ukve wavida, magram bolomde ver miaRwia

internetmimoxilva moamzada

gulbaaT WavWavaZem.

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„prezidento saakaSvilo, nu

moklavT presas!“ _ orSabaTs ga-

mosuli beWduri presis TiTqmis

yvela saSualebas aseTi sityvebi

hqonda wamZRvarebuli. mogvianebiT

ki „Tbilisi meriotSi“ mediagaer-

Tianebac dafuZnda, romelic xe-

lisuflebisgan wamosuli mediaag-

resiis winaaRmdeg iqneba mimarTu-

li.

mediagaerTianeba profkavSire-

bis msgavsi ar iqneba, aramed mas-

Si ndobiT aRsavse Jurnalistebi

da iuristebi gaerTiandebian, rom-

lebsac mediamflobelebi xelfas-

sac gadauxdian im aqtiurobisT-

vis, rac mediasaSualebaze konkre-

tuli zewolis dros mediis dac-

visas gaxdeba saWiro. amasTan, me-

diagaerTianebis warmomadgenlebi

SeimuSaveben sqemas, romlis mixed-

viTac, gaavrceleben gancxadebebs,

gagzavnian saprotesto werilebs

da aqciebis organizebasac moaxde-

nen. mediagaerTianeba daxmarebis

mizniT axalgazrda iuristTa aso-

ciacias mimarTavs da maTTan er-

Tad SeimuSavebs mediagaerTianebis

wesdebas.

marTalia, axladdafuZnebul

mediagaerTianebaSi yofnis survi-

li nacionaluri mediasaSualebe-

bis warmomadgenlebs ar gamouTq-

vamT, magram axladdafuZnebuli me-

diagaerTianebis wevrebisTvis ne-

bismieri mediasaSualeba ganurCe-

velia da problemebis SemTxvevaSi,

isini daicaven maTac, vinc maT

gverdiT dgoma ar isurva.

rogorc „maestros“ damfuZne-

belma mamuka Rlontma „saerTo ga-

zeTTan“ saubrisas aRniSna, maTi

mizani ukanonobasTan brZolaa, am-

denad, isini nacionalur mediasa-

Sualebebsac daexmarebian.

„saakaSvilis xelisufleba iq-

neba Tu sxvisi, mniSvneloba ar

aqvs. Tu ukanonoba nacionaluri

arxebis winaaRmdegac iqneba mimar-

Tuli, amasac SevebrZolebiT. mniS-

vneloba ar aqvs, romel mediasa-

Sualebas emuqreba safrTxe“, _

aRniSna mamuka Rlontma da sxva

mediasaSualebebsac SesTavaza maT-

Tan gaerTianeba.

mediagaerTianebis dafuZnebaSi

monawileobdnen rogorc beWduri,

aseve eleqtronuli mediis warmo-

madgenlebi. maT Soris, telekompa-

nia „maestro“,„alia“, „asaval-da-

savali“, „kviris palitra“ „rezo-

nansi“, „presage.tv“, mediakavSiri

„obieqtivi“, radio „ucnobi“ da

sxva. mediagaerTianebis iniciato-

rebma saorganizacio komisiis wev-

rebic daasaxeles: jaba xubua (a-

saval-dasavali), rozi jRamaia

(presage.tv.), laSa tuRuSi (rezo-

nansi) xatia qvaTaZe (radio „maes-

tro”).

mediagaerTianebis dafuZneba

mas Semdeg gaxda aqtualuri, rac

Jurnalistebi xelisuflebisgan

konkretul problemebs waawydnen:

fotoreportiorebis dakavebaze

rom araferi vTqvaT, bolo dros

mediis mimarT wnexi sxvadasxva

formiT gamovlinda. kerZod, Tbi-

lisSi arsebul presaze speciali-

zebuli 140-150 jixuridan dReis-

Tvis ramdenimeRa iqneba darCenili

da maTac savaraudod wlis bo-

lomde aiReben. sxvaTaSoris, pre-

sis jixurebis aRebis „novacia“

qveynis sxva qalaqebsa da raioneb-

Sic igegmeba da am mxriv Tbilisi

gamonaklisi ar aris.

mamuka Rlontis TqmiT, media-

gaerTianebis mTavari amocana medi-

asaSualebebis ukanonobisa da xe-

lisuflebis zewolisgan dacva iq-

neba.

„es idea TiTqmis rva welia,

gamaCnia. mediasaSualebebs erTma-

neTTan komunikaciis problema

aRar eqnebaT da, roca erT rome-

lime maTganze zewola ganxorci-

eldeba, aRniSnuli organizaciis

saSualebiT saprotesto aqciebs

organizebuli xasiaTi miecema. am

gaerTianebis Seqmnis mTavari mize-

zi is aris, rom bolo dros me-

dia mudmivi Tavdacvis pirobebSi

imyofeba,“ _aRniSna mamuka Rlon-

tma.

misive TqmiT, xelisuflebis

mxridan zewola mxolod jixure-

bis aRebiT da „maestroze“ mitani-

li ieriSiT ar amoiwureba da xe-

lisuflebas kidev araerTi vera-

guli Canafiqri aqvs rezervSi.

amis dasadastureblad mamuka

Rlontma erosi kiwmariSvilis

„maestroSi“ Segzavna daasaxela.

„im formiT, ra formiTac is Se-

moZvra Robidan, aman mimaxvedra,

rom xelisufleba ukve Zalian

konkretul gegmebs debs“, _

gviTxra mamuka Rlontma.

„rezonansis“ redaqtori laSa

tuRuSi acxadebs, rom presis

dacvis erTaderTi meqanizmi medi-

is gaerTianeba da sxvadasxva for-

miT maTi aqtivobaa.

„pirvel rigSi, Cven unda da-

vicvaT Cveni uflebebi, unda da-

vicvaT Cveni kolegebis uflebebi.

Cven viciT, rom bevrad metia ise-

Ti mediasaSualeba, romelsac su-

rvili aqvs, am tipis gaerTianeba-

Si miiRos monawileoba. Cveni in-

teresia, maqsimalurad gavaerTia-

noT yvela jansaRi pozicia da az-

ri, yvela Jurnalisti, romelsac

marTla awuxebs saqarTveloSi si-

tyvis Tavisuflebis bedi. es Zali-

an principuli sakiTxia~, _ acxa-

debs laSa tuRuSi.

amasTan, laSa tuRuSi kanoniT

daSvebuli yvela SesaZlo aqtivo-

bebis gamoyenebas gvpirdeba, rome-

lic Sedegis momtani iqneba.

„Sedegia is, rom Cven unda

vizrunoT sityvis Tavisuflebaze,

rdgan am mxriv Zalian seriozuli

problemebia Cvens qveyanaSi“, _

aRniSnavs laSa tuRuSi.

„asaval-dasavalis“ Jurnalis-

ti jaba xubua miiCnevs, rom medi-

agaerTianebis Seqmnis saWiroeba

Tavisufali sityvis devnam moita-

na.

„ukve mimdinareobs gadamwyveti

Seteva Tavisufali sityvis wina-

aRmdeg. TbilisSi presis gavrce-

lebis yvela jixuri aRebulia.

amitom isRa dagvrCenia, am yvelaf-

ris winaaRmdeg gaverTiandeT da

solidaroba gamovucxadoT erTma-

neTs“.

mariam maWavariani

aamm mmeeqqaanniikkuurrmmaa qqmmeeddeebbaamm ddiiddii

ddaappiirriissppiirreebbaa ggaammooiiwwvviiaa.. mmaaggaallii-

TTaadd aaWWaarruull mmuussuullmmaannuurr TTeemmSSii

eerrTTmmaanneeTTss ddaauuppiirriissppiirrddnneenn yyooffii-

llii ddaa aaxxllaannddeellii mmuufftteebbii~~,, __

aaccxxaaddeebbss eeqqssppeerrttii kkaavvkkaassiiiiss ssaa-

kkiiTTxxeebbSSii mmaammuukkaa aarreeSSiiZZee..

gauzrebeli svla

dapirispirebis mizezi

saqarTvelos xelisuflebam

morigi daufiqrebeli nabiji ga-

dadga da maisSi mwvane Suqi aun-

To saqarTvelos musulmanTa su-

lieri sammarTvelos Seqmnas. es

xdeba maSin, rodesac baqoSi arse-

bobs da sul ufro Zlierdeba kav-

kasiel musulmanTa sabWo, aRniS-

nuli kavSiri jer kidev komunis-

tebis dros, avbediT 37 wels Se-

iqmna. mas Tavis droze sul sxva

misia ekisreboda. dRevandeli

mdgomareobiT, es organo, raRac

variantSi aerTianebs kidec kavka-

siel musulmanebs, misi lideri

Suqur faSa-zade didi gavleniT

sargeblobs baqos politikur

elitaSi.

areSiZis gadmocemiT, musul-

manTa sammarTvelos Seqmna Cvens

xelisuflebaSi myofi araprofesi-

onalebis dagegmilia. aman Sedegad

moitana dapirispirebebi musulma-

nur Temebs Soris, rac SesaZlebe-

lia sazogadoebis dapirispirebaSi

gadaizardos. axlad Seqmnil mu-

sulmanTa sammarTveloSi bevri sa-

ero piria, es SeiZleba saWiroc

iyos, acxadebs eqsperti kavkasiis

sakiTxebSi, magram morw-

muneTa survili ar gauT-

valiswinebiaT, radganac

sammarTvelos Semadgen-

lobaSi mrevlisaTvis bev-

ri ucnobi an naklebi av-

toritetis mqone piria

Seyvanili.

areSiZis naTqvamiT ir-

kveva, rom azerbaijanul

TemSi didi nawili wina-

aRmdegia axali sammarTve-

losi. morwmuneebs jerac

ver gaurkveviaT Siituria

Tu sunituri es organi-

zacia. amis mizezad eqs-

perts naklebi propaganduli mu-

Saoba miaCnia. areSiZis informaci-

iT saqarTvelos azerbaijanelebiT

dasaxlebul soflebSi adgilob-

rivi Cinovnikebi aiZuleben mosax-

leobas daeqvemdebaron axlad Seq-

mnil sammarTvelos.

momxdariT ukmayofiloa baqoc.

kavkasiel musulmanTa sabWoSi am-

boben, rom maTi organizacia didi

xnis Seqmnilia da srulad moi-

cavs kavkasiis morwmune musulma-

nebs, saqaTveloSi Seqmnili mu-

sulmanTa sammarTvelo mxolod

adgilobriv islamistebs moicavs

da emuqreba baqos, maTze kontro-

lis dakargviT. amis garda musul-

manTa sabWos meCeTebisa da qonebis

dakargviTacaa (SesaZlo) SeSfoTe-

buli. iq acxadeben, rom saqarTve-

los musulmanTa sammarTvelos

mmarTvel rgolSi arc erTi azer-

baijaneli ar aris. vinc arian me-

orexarisxovan rolebs asruleben

da amasTanave ar warmoadgenen mo-

rwmuneTaTvis avtoritetebs.

cnobisaTvis: Cvens qveyanaSi

marTlmadidebeli qristianebis

Semdeg musulmanebi modian _ mo-

saxleobis 9,9 procenti, (daax-

loebiT 400 aTasamde adamiani).

maTi umetesoba azerbaijanelia.

arian aWarlebi, Turqi-mesxebic,

kavkasiis musulmanTa sabWos ofi-

si TbilisSic aqvs. deda-

qalaqSi aqvs gaxsnili

centraluri Stab-bina sa-

qarTvelos musulmanTa

sammarTvelosac. orive re-

ligiuri organizaciis mi-

zani identuria _ musul-

manTa interesebis dacva.

mxolod saqarTveloSi

moRvawe musulmanTa orga-

nizaciis sasuliero li-

derebi arian Siituri is-

lamis warmomadgeneli Se-

ixi vagif akapilovi, suni-

turi islamis lideri

mufti jemal paqsaZe da

Tbilisis meCeTis imami iasn alie-

vi.

`somxuri proeqti~

`somxur proeqtad~ moixseni-

ebs sammarTvelos Seqmnas kavkasi-

el musulmanTa sabWos xelmZRva-

neli ali Suqur faSa-zade. igi am

nabijs politikurad miiCnevs da

Tvlis, rom sammarTvelo saqarT-

velos xelisuflebis organoa. mi-

si Seqmnis mizania akontrolos

saqarTveloSi macxovrebeli mu-

sulmanebi. ra saWiroa es-kiTxu-

lobs pirovneba, romelsac saqar-

TveloSi macxovrebel morwmune

azerbaijanelTa umravlesoba Ta-

vis sulier liderad Tvlis, fa-

Sa-zade sammarTvelos saqarTve-

los xelisuflebisaTvis SeTava-

zebul `somxur proeqts~ uwo-

debs: igi winaswarmetyvelebs, rom

qarTuli mxaris gadadgmuli nabi-

ji cud Sedegebs moitans. musul-

manTa lideri mosalodnel Sede-

gebze mTel pasuxismgeblobas sa-

qarTvelos xelisuflebas akis-

rebs.

Tbiliseli Teologi, erovne-

biT azerbaijaneli ramazan jafa-

rovi gvixsnis, rom arsebobs ule-

mebis, yuranis mcodne adamianebis

(sasuliero pirebi, molebi) prin-

cipi, romlis mixedviTac saqarT-

velos mTel morwmune musulmanTa

sammarTvelo xalxis meSveobiT

unda Camoyalibebuliyo. da ara is,

rac miviReT, ZaldatanebiT Seqmni-

li organizacia, romelic qmnis

did albaTobas musulmanur Temebs

Soris dapirispirebas: _ gveubneba

Cveni azerbaijaneli respondenti.

qarTveli politologebi iT-

valiswineben ra kavkasiel musul-

manTa did gavlenas alievis karze,

SiSs gamoTqvamen imis gamo, rom

momxdarma SeiZleba daZabos saqar-

Tvelo-azerbaijanis bolo dros

isedac garTulebuli urTierTo-

bebi.

zaza bilixoZe

mediagaerTianeba reJimis winaaRmdeg

azerbaijaneli musulmanebi siaxleSi `somxur proeqts~ xedaven

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17saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

arsaidan aRmocenebuli axa-

li saxeebis qarTul politika-

Si Semosvla “vardebis revolu-

ciis” tradicia da gamocdile-

baa. ase daimkvidres adgili qa-

rTul politikaSic da `pirve-

lad saqarTvelos istoriaSi”

Tbilisis quCebSi “kmaras” jRab-

niTa da yviriliT “TavgamoCe-

nilma” da revoluciuri tele-

viziebiT gacnobadebulma saxeeb-

ma. Mmudmivi da amaradiulic am-

qveynad uflis garda araferia.

`nacionalurma ideologiam”,

(maT da samwuxarod), romelmac

saqarTvelos ganadgurebis dava-

leba met-nalebad Seasrula, sa-

xelmwifos marTvis berketebs

unda Camoscildnes. Tumca, ro-

gorc Tavad gvimesijeben _ gasa-

keTebeli, anu gasanadgurebeli

saqarTveloSi jer kidev bevri

darCeniaT. amisTvis ki axali sa-

xeebis aRmocenebaa saWiro. swo-

red amisTvis, rogorc Tavis

droze `kmarasa” da `Tavisufle-

bis institutis saxeebi” aRmo-

cendnen da Cainergnen qarTul

politikaSi, ase sokoebiviT, er-

Timeoris miyolebiT daiwyes aR-

moceneba “evropuli koaliciis”

axalma saxeebmac. dasamali aRa-

ravisTvisa, rom es kolacia Se-

saZloa politikur subieqtad

Camoyalibdes momavali arCevne-

bisTvis, romelsac aw. Ukve opi-

oziciaSi gadabargebuli boke-

ria-benduqiZis tandems Caudgeba

saTaveSi. marTalia, maT “gasake-

TilSobileblad” SigadaSig gia

nodias msgavs “marilsac” gaure-

ven xolme. emandMis “liberalu-

ri faseulobebi” aravis daaviwy-

des, romlis danergvac nodiam,

ladariam, WiaberaSvilma, levan

ramiSvilma da giga bokeriam da

`axali qarTvelis SeqmniT” mra-

valaTasiani grantebiT dafinan-

sebulma saxeebma jer kidev

“vardebis revoluciamde” wamo-

iwyes da jerjerobiT araferi

gamouvidaT. `nacionalurma ide-

ologiamac”, leninis msgavsad,

Tavisi saqmis gamgrZelebeli un-

da datovos, romlebic “Tavi-

suflebis institutis” msgavsad

momavalSi saxelmwifo, marTvis

saqmeebSi aqtiurad Caerevian.

sxvagvarad, qarTvelebs saqarT-

veloSi “marTla Tavisuflad da

damoukideblad” cxovrebis uf-

lebas vin mogvcems?!

am “enjeoSnikebis” ideolo-

giuri miniSvneloba imdenad di-

dia, rom isini amaJamindel saar-

Cevno kanonze momuSave komisia-

Sic arian warmodgenilni da Ta-

nac opoziciis saxiT. aseTia `ek-

onomikis eqspertad” cnobili,

swored arasaidan aRmocenebuli

mixeil TavxeliZe. masac, iseve

rogorc dRes “profesorad qce-

ul” Tea TuTberiZes apiarebde-

nen yvela televiziebiT, axali

tenologiebis Sesabamisad “ga-

sacnobadeblad”, dRes Tavxeli-

Zis kompetentur azrebs gvasme-

nineben. es TavxeliZe ki, megob-

rebo, Tavis Tavs Turme “naen-

dertalels” uwodebs. im gage-

biT, rom yvelanairi Tavisufle-

ba, rac pirvelyofili adamianis-

Tvis iyo miRebuli misTvisac mi-

saRebi da bunebrivi yofila. sa-

zogadoebisTvis neandertalele-

bi 1856 wels germaniis “nean-

dertalis dablobSi” aRmoCeni-

li pirvelyofili adamianis na-

marxebiT aris cnobili da “evo-

luciis jaWvSi”, pirvelyofili

adamianis Semdeg piTekantropsa

da Tanamedrove adamians Soris

adgils ikavebs. Sesabamisad, ase-

Ti “neandertalelebisTvis” pir-

velyofili adamianis jogurad

cxovrebis, joguri seqsualuri

urTierTobebisa da “joguri fa-

seulobebis” principebic misaRe-

bi da mosawonia. TavxeliZis

“Tavgadakluli neandertalelo-

bac” amis dasaturi unda iyos.

“neandertalelebis” warmo-

madgenelebisTvis da `brZeni da

gawonasworebuli” TavxeliZisT-

visac cnobili unda iyos isic,

rom Tanamedrove evropa, Tavisi

ganviTarebis doniTa da rogorc

“naendertalelebs” uyvarT evo-

luciiT, karga xania daSorda

pirvelyofili adamianis cxov-

rebis wess. Tu rasakvirvelia,

21-e saukuneSi dasavleTidan

mZlavrad SemoWril im `seqsua-

luri Tavisuflebis talRas”

ar miviRebT mxedvelobaSi. rome-

lic, rogorc `neandertalel

TavxeliZes” Tu davemowmebiT,

yvelafris TavisuflebasTan er-

Tad, (maT Soris narkotikebis)

albaT, sxeulis siSiSvlis de-

monstrirebasac unda gulisx-

mobdes, radgan misi gagebiT, Ta-

visufleba yvelafris Tavisuf-

lebas gulisxmobs. swored ase

ganmimarta erTxel “Tavisufle-

bis mcneba” laSa buRaZemac. mar-

Talia, pirvelyofili da “nean-

dertaleli” adamianis am siSiS-

vles maSin tansacmlis arqona

ganapirobebda da “liberali ne-

andertalelebisgan” gansxvave-

biT da “darvinis Teoriis sawi-

naaRmdegod”, qarTuli sazoga-

doebis didi nawili Tavs maimu-

nis STamomavlebad ar miiCnevs,

magram aseTi “neandertalale-

bis” gapiareba dRes mainc didi

masStabebiT xorcieldeba. “Tav-

xileZisTana neandertalelebis-

Tvis” amas e.w. “liberaluri Ri-

rebulebebis” tiraJirebiT, moma-

valSi “gei da lesbo aRlume-

bis” mxardaWera da am mxaradWe-

ris gamo didi grantebis miReba

gansazRvravs. mokled, principe-

bidan da Rirebulelebidan ga-

momdinare, unda vigulisxmod,

rom “evropuli koalicia, Tu

niandertalelta sakrebulo”,

“Tavisuflebis institutis” sa-

xecvlil transformacias unda

warmoadgendes. ramdenadac `jo-

joxeTis maSxalebis” am insti-

tutma mis damfinansebel so-

ross ver gaumarTla. aseTi “nen-

dertalelebi” saarCevno kanonze

momuSave komisiaSi mainc sxedan

da “qristian-demokratebis”, `Ce-

mTviTon miSas magieris”, “axle-

bis”, `edepes” viTom opozicias-

Tan erTad, qarTveli xalxis ar-

Cevnebis bedis ganmsazRvrav sa-

kiTxebze muSaoben. Sesaba-

misad rogori iqneba am ko-

misiis muSaobis Sedegebi,

romelis Sesaxebac `kub-

laSvilis kibinets” miRma

jer qaristian-demokratebi

da Semdeg miSa da vano iba-

reben “atCotebs” _ gasage-

bi unda iyos. aseT “nean-

dertalelebis ajafsan-

dalSi”, momaval arCeveneb-

Sic “gasapatiosneblad”

aucileblad Seureven nasa-

riZeebis, “mrCevel-kompe-

tentorebis” da nodiebis-

nair “damsaxurebul pad-

lizebs”. miT ufro axla,

rodesac aSS-s kongresma

saqarTvelosTan mWidro

samxedro urTerTobebis

damyarebis Sesaxeb doku-

ments uyara kenWi da rac

arsSi TbilisisTvis ameri-

kuli SeiaraRebis miyidvas

iTvaliswinebs. am dokumentsac

prezidentma barak obamam unda

moaweros xeli. 1244-e muxlSi

aRniSnulia, rom dokumentze

xelmoweridan araugvianes 90

dRisa, “prezidentma unda Seimu-

Saos da kongress warudginos

aSS-ssa da saqarTvelos Soris

samxedro TanamSromlobis nor-

malizaciis gegema TavdacviTi

SeiarRebis miyidvis CaTvliT”.

am proeqtis iniaciatoric Tur-

me feradi revoluciebis dafi-

nansebis fondis Tav-re da naci-

onalebis didi megobari _ mak

keini gaxldaT. aSS-s gegmaSi fi-

gurirebs `saqarTvelos mTavro-

bis daxmareba sakuTari xalxisa

da suverenuli teritoriebis

dacvis uzrunvelyofaSi saqarT-

velos mTavrobis mier Zalis ga-

mouyeneblobis Sesaxeb aRebuli

valdebulebebisa da gaeros wes-

debis 51-e muxlebis gaTvaliswi-

nebiT, aSS-s mier

samxedro teqnikisa

da qonebis gayidva

da samxedro momsa-

xureba TavdacviTi

uzrunvelyofis mi-

marTulebiT saqarT-

velos xelisufle-

bis Zalisxmevis mxa-

radsaWerad”. “suve-

renuli teritorie-

bis dacvis uzrun-

velyofaSi”, albaT,

savaraudo saomari

moqmedebis SemTxve-

vaSi, albaT isev ro-

melime regionis

daTmobisas, isev

“r ez er v i st e b i s ”

upatronod mitoveba,

saakaSvilis miwaze forTxva da

axali regionis Cabareba unda

vigulisxmoT.

imis gaTvaliswinebiT, rom

“saqarTvelos xelisuflebis Za-

lisxmevas” qarTvelis xalxisT-

vis sulis amoxda, darbeva da

xelebSekruli momitingeebis

xocvasTan erTad, arCevnebis

mudmivi gayalbeba gulisxmobs,

amasTan Zalis gamoyenebis yove-

li SemTxveva amerikis elCebis

mier, yovelTvis “demokratiuli

reformebis” WrilSi ganixileba

da metic, Tavad elCebi iZlevi-

an uiaraRo momitingeebis darbe-

vis “mesijebs”, gasagebi unda

iyos, amerikuli SeiaraRebis

TbilisisTvis miyidva rasac un-

da gulisxmobdes. ramdenadac

suverenuli teritoriebis dab-

runebisa da Tundac ruseTTan

omis SesaZlebloba saqarTvelos

arc gaaCnia da CvenisTana qveyana

oms verc erT did saxelmwifos-

Tan ver awarmoebs. an meore,

ramdenadac aRniSnuli gegma “sa-

qarTvelos TavdacviTi moTxov-

nebis Sefasebasa da bolo ori

wlis ganmavlobaSi samxedro

teqnikisa da qonebis SeZenisa da

samxedro momsaxurebis Sesaxeb

saqarTvelos mTavrobis gancxa-

debis CamonaTvals Seicavs”. ga-

moricxuli araa, iranze amerika-

israelis SesaZlo Tavdasxmis

SemTxvevaSi, xsenebuli Seiara-

Reba `cocxal buferad qceuli

saqarTvelos gasaZliereblad”

iqnas gamoyenebuli, ra drosac

iranTan mezoblad myofi armeni-

isTvis “didi armeniis” aRdgenis

mizniT, axla javaxeTis miwebis

gadacema igulisxmebodes. miT

ufro maSin, rodesac Tbilisi-

dan parlamentis qauTaisSi gada-

taniT, nacionalebis varaudiT,

Tbiliselebisgan ukve gamoTavi-

suflebuli eqnebaT, magram saa-

kaSvilis sityvebiT Tu vityviT,

“nuras ukacravad da ver mogar-

TviT”. TbilisSi kidev bevri

“araparlamentari Tbiliseli”

vrCebiT imisTvis, rom Cveni qa-

laqi aravis davuTmoTYda laRi-

Zis “YTbilisos” nacvlad, “ax

sirum, isrum” ar vamReroT vin-

mes. aseTi “brwinvale perspeqti-

vis” pirobebSi Tu SeiaraRebis

gadmocemas saomari moqmedebebis

miznebi gaaCnia, radgan sxva Sem-

TxvevaSi miSa `pagrimuSkad” xom

ar ixmars amerikul SeiaraRe-

bas? an omi unda daviwyoT da

Cven SevakvdeT, miSa ki gaiqces,

an savaraudod, wagebuli arCeve-

nebis pirobebSi, aSS qarTvele-

bis dasaxocad aZlevs “Tavis Se-

umdgar proeqts”- naciona-

lebs iaraRs. albaT maTi

varaudiT, xocva-Jletas

gadarCenil qarTvelobas

saomari moqmedebebis dros

“bunkerebSi” gadamaluli

“neandertaleli ekonomis-

tebi” da liberalebic up-

roblemod mougeben nebis-

mier arCevnebsac da “adami-

anis uflebaTa dacvis miz-

niT” Catarebul seqsualu-

ri umciresobebis aRlume-

bis gamarTvasac uproble-

mod moaxerxeben. gogoriS-

vil-maWavarianis mier Semu-

Savebuli axali saarCevno

kodeqsi da qarTuli opo-

ziciuri sazogadoebis

sruli dumili, sxvaze ara-

ferze miuTiTebs. viTom

opoziciac “liberaluri

Rirebulebebisa” da dasav-

leTis mxardaWeris mopove-

bis gamo “aseT Tavisuflebasa”

da saarCevno kanonsac aucileb-

lad dauWers mxars.

ase, rom, Cemo Zvirfaso qar-

Tvelebo, lazres enisa da uf-

lis kvarTis patrono xalxno,

didi civilizaciis, `SuSanikis

wamebis” `vefxistyaosnis”, Cak-

rulosa da `Sen xar venaxos”

ero! “mesrof maStrocis mier

Seqmnili sami qarTuli anbanis”

mqone qarTvelo xalxo, qar-

Tul politikaSi `neandrtale-

lebi” gegmaven mosvlas da

`vefxis tyavis” nacvlad mom-

ravlebuli turebis tyavi an

`leRvis foTlebi” mainc moima-

rageT, radgan iqeT ucxotome-

lebisTvis gamzadebuli “lazi-

kidan” daZrul liberalebs da

aqeT TbilisSi darCenil ;nean-

dertalelebs” verafris dide-

biT avuxsniT, rom siSiSvle

sircxvilia da civilizebulma

samyarom, maT Soris evropamac

Tavis droze “leRvis foTol-

sa” da tyapuWs tansacmeli

amisTvis amjobinda.

keso mesxeli

gixaroden, qarTul politikaSineandertalelebi modian!..

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irakli alasania:

koba daviTaSvilis da zviad Zi-

Ziguris ivaniSvilis gundSi pirov-

nuli monawileobis Sesaxeb gadawy-

vetileba erToblivad iqna miRebu-

li. radgan yovelTvis vambobdiT,

rom Cveni kari Riaa da Cven unda

viTanamSromloT sxvadasxva Zaleb-

Tan, maT Soris aris zviadi da ko-

ba. sami politikuri Zala: respub-

likelebi, Tavisufali demokratebi

da biZina ivaniSvilis partia, ro-

melic Camoyalibebis procesSia,

SeTanxmebuli varT partniorobaze

da vfiqrobT, rom winasaarCevnod

(imedi gvaqvs rom mivalT iqamde),

CamovayalibebT bloks da koalici-

as. da ra Tqma unda, Cven urTier-

Toba gveqneba sxvadasxva politi-

kur ZalebTan.

eqvsianis formatSi Cven

vTqviT, rom daviwyebT saarCevno

garemos gaumjobesebas da erTob-

liv brZolas, me daviwye es brZo-

la; 6 Tvis ganmavlobaSi moviare

200-mde sofeli da kargad avuxse-

ni sazogadoebas, Tu rogori mobi-

lizebaa saWiro Semdegi saarCevno

ciklisTvis, Semdegi saparlamento

arCevnebisTvis. me mgoni, dameTanx-

mebiT, rom biZina ivaniSvilis gamo-

Cenam marTlac teqtonuri cvlile-

bebi gamoiwvia qarTul politikaSi.

garda imisa, rom gamoiwvia saxeli-

suflebo agresia da eqs-

tremizmi xelisuflebis

mxridan, maT CaTvales,

rom es didi safrTxea

da axali politikuri

Zala, romelic ikveTeba

maTTvis marTlac aris

sapirwone. amitom darw-

munebuli var, rom Sem-

degi saparlamento ar-

Cevnebi iqneba konkuren-

tuli, rac Zalian jansa-

Ri iqneba qarTuli de-

mokratiisTvis, misi gan-

mtkicebisTvis. Cven vTa-

vazobT sazogadoebas,

pirvel rigSi, imas Tu

rogor movereviT umu-

Sevrobas da am mxriv

CemTvis Zalian Rirebulia biZina

ivaniSvilis gamocdileba, mas 100

000-mde samuSao adgili aqvs Tavis

karieris ganmavlobaSi Seqmnili,

piradi SesaZleblobidan gamomdina-

re mas didi zrunva hqonda qarTu-

li inteleqtis, qarTuli kultu-

ris gadarCenaze, aseve Zalian di-

di wvlili aqvs Setanili Cveni

qveynis Tavdacvisunarianobis, Sina-

gan saqmeTa organoebis gamyarebaSi;

aqedan gamomdinare, Cveni partnio-

ri aris aseTi Rirsebebis matarebe-

li, garda imisa, rom is aris da-

savleTze orientirebuli da amas

minda xazi gavusva da wetili da-

vusva im sicruis nakads, romelic

modis imedidan da rusTavi2-dan,

rom TiTqos Cven SevicvaleT Cveni

sagareo politikuri xedva; baton-

ma biZinam CemTan Sexvedrisas Tqva,

rom swored imitom unda CemTan

partnioroba, rom iziarebs Tavisu-

fali demokratebis pozicias, sqar-

Tvelo unda gaxdes evroatlanti-

kuri sivrcis, evropuli ojaxis

nawili da es Cveni gadawyvetileba

uryevia. me minda es kidev erTxel

gavimeoro, radgan rusTavi2 da ime-

di, prezident saakaSvilis dava-

lebiT, urcxvad ambobs, rom viTom

Cven vuRalateT evroatlantikur

miswrafebebs.

rac Seexeba fulis Cadebas, me

ar gamigia arcerTi centi, rome-

lic ase guluxvad da yovelgvari

politikuri ambiciebis gareSe gae-

Ros Tundac oligarqs, romelic

dRes saqarTvelos ekonomikaSi ga-

dawyvetilebebs iRebs, baton ben-

duqiZes, baton nayofias. isini biz-

nesiT arian dakavebulebi. xolo

biZina ivaniSvilma sakuTari fuli,

daaxloebiT miliard naxevari,

swored saqarTvelos in-

teresebs moaxmara. ben-

duqiZem Tu instituti

Seqmna, egec biznesia,

is studentebisgan

fuls iRebs. ase rom

biZina ivaniSvilis pat-

riotizmSi, mis swor

xedvebSi qveyanasTan mi-

marTebaSi me eWvi ar me-

pareba; rac mTavaria, Cven

saerTo vipoveT soflis

meurneobis ganviTarebis

sakiTxSi. yvela vinc ki Sem-

xvedria im 200 sofelSi,

sadac viyavi bolo Tveebis gan-

mavlobaSi, sami saqarTvelos moqa-

laqedan ori aris umuSevari. imi-

tom rom soflis meurneoba saakaS-

vilis xelisuflebam mTlianad da-

iviwya. Cven gvaqvs swori xedva,

rogor davayenebT fexze saqarTve-

los soflis meurneobas, rogor

davexmarebiT mcire da saSualo

bizness da lomis wili samuSao

adgilebis SeqmnaSi modis mcire da

saSualo biznesze, romelic unda

ganviTardes. realurad CvenTan mo-

nopoliebi marTaven biznesebs da

amitomac ar viTardeba mcire da

saSualo biznesi.

rac Seexeba yofil eqvsians, eq-

vsiani iyo bunebrivia inerciiT

Sqmnili politikuri erToba, rvi-

anis moRvaweobis Semdeg, rodesac

Cven daaxloebiT 8 Tvis ganmavlo-

baSi gvqonda molaparakebebi xeli-

siuflebasTan da xelisuflebam mi-

atova es molaparakebebi. samwuxa-

rod, rvianidan orma politikurma

Zalam yvelaze kritikul momentSi,

rodesac realurad ramdenime kvi-

raSi SesaZlebeli iyo daeTmo xe-

lisuflebas saarCevno garemosTan

dakavSirebuli fundamentaluri sa-

kiTxebi, maT samwuxarod, mxari da-

uWires SemoTavazebas, romelic mo-

vida nacionaluri moZraobidan.

radgan mciredi CemTvis damakmayo-

filebeli ar aris, imitom rom Se-

saZlebloba da Sansi iyo, wamogve-

Ro ufro meti daTmoba, rac rea-

lurad konkurentuls gaxdida Sem-

deg arCevnebs, magram daeTanxmnen

nacionalur moZraobas. esaa Cemi

gulistkivili imis mimarT rac

moxda rvianTan dakavSirebiT. Sem-

deg eqvsianma gadavwyviteT, rom

amiTi ar unda gavCerebuliyaviT da

me vTxove Cems partniorebs, erTad

dagvewyo regionebSi siaruli. ro-

desac daviwyeT regionebSi siaru-

li, samwuxarod, ise moxda, rom

ver amyva garkveuli Cveni politi-

ku-

ri partniorebi im saqmianobaSi,

rac me regionebSi mindoda gameSa-

la; amitom vTqviT, rom, rodesac

Camoyalibdeba danarCeni politiku-

ri Zalebi, mzada varT gavagrZeloT

es saqmianoba erTad, da am dros

gamoCnda biZina ivaniSvili. da mii-

Ro gadawyvetileba, me vityodi,

gmiruli gadawyvetileba, radgan

yvelam kargad icis, rom biznesmeni

yovelTvis cdilobs, normalur

urTierTobaSi iyos xelisuflebas-

Tan; man es nabiji gadadga, radgan

marTlac sjera, rom Semdegi sapar-

lamento arCevnebi aris marTlac

gadamwyveti Cveni qveynisTvis. rad-

gan es unda iyos konkurentunaria-

ni arCevnebi da rac mTavaria, Sem-

degi parlamenti aRar unda iyos

erTpartiuli parlamenti; Semdegi

prezidenti aRar unda iRebdes ga-

dawyetilebas erTpirovnulad; es

aris ZiriTadi rac me davinaxe mas-

Si, ra motivaciaca aqvs, rom rea-

lurad dadges politikur Zaleb-

Tan erTad. da me darwmunebuli

var, rom Cven sazogadoebis

Zalian didi nawilis mxar-

daWeras miviRebT da Semde-

gi parlamnenti marTlac

mravalpartiuli iqneba.

rac Seexeba zviad ZiZi-

guris Zvel gancxadebas,

rom me daSlis niWi ufro

maqvs, vidre gaerTianebis.

mas SeiZleba pirovnulad

egeTi ganwyoba maSin hqono-

da, magram ar meguleba sa-

qarTveloSi arc erTi po-

litikuri Zala, politiku-

ri lideri, rom Tavidanve

yvelaferze SeTanxmebuliyv-

nen da saerTo azri hqondeT

politikuri cxovrebis gan-

viTarebis dinamikaze; poli-

tika, xSirad vambob, jazs

hgavs, es aris marTlac mud-

mivi imrovizacia. rodesac

fundamentalur sakiTxebze

gaqvT saerTo xedva, eseTi

improvizaciebi aravis ar

unda gaukvirdes. gaixseneT

nacionaluri moZraoba, ra-

tom datova igi Tavdacvis

ministrma, parlamentis Tav-

mjdomarem, ratom wvida 6

elCi, es yvelaferi aris im-

provizacia. Cven gvaqvs saer-

To - Cveni qveyana, gvinda rom re-

alurad demokratiul qveynad viq-

ceT, es aris Sansi, romelic Cven

axla mogveca; bevrad ufro aamaR-

la es Sansi biZina ivaniSvilis ga-

moCenam politikaSi da amitom da-

velodoT, rogori konkurentiani

arCevnebi iqneba momavalSi. mas aqvs

Zalian didi gamocdileba samuSao

adgilebis Seqmnis, romlis msgav-

sic arc erT politikur ZalaSi

ar arsebobs. es aris Cveni qveynis-

Tvis Zalian Rirebuli dRes; man

zustad icis, rogor unda davud-

geT gevrdiT mcire da saSualo

bizness, rogor unda Seiqmnas samu-

Sao adgilebi da ganvaviTaroT

soflis meurneoba. es is sakiTxe-

bia, romlic damerwmuneT yvelas,

TiToeul moqalaqes awuxebs dRes.

da damerwmuneT, aravis awuxebs,

ra Tqva guSinwin zviad ZiZigurma.

dro gviCvenebda gaverTiandebo-

diT Tu ara Cven respublikeleb-

Tan, ZiZigurTan da daviTaSvilTan,

vTqvaT, rom ara biZina ivaniSvili.

rodesac midixar arCevnebze, yo-

velTvis midrekili xar, rac

SeiZleba solidurad

gaxvide.

rac Seexeba kva-

racxelias, lorTqi-

faniZis, TevzaZis ga-

moCenas „qarTuli

ocnebis“ prezentacia-

ze, pirveli rac minda

vTqva, rom araviTari Ta-

namoazreebs maTSi ar vxe-

davT, magram Cven ar vyofT

sazogadoebas Cvenianebad da

sxvisianebad. maT gauCndaT

survili da movidnen, ra

dagvesaja ratom moxvediT-

Tqo?! ras iTxovT, rom devo-

lizeba daviwyoT moqalaqeebis?!

viRacam gaugzavna mosawvevebi da ra

vqnaT, gamgzavni davsajoT?! da ki-

dev, Tqven iq ver dainaxeT sxva

Rirseuli moqalaqeebi, romlebic

dResac aqtiurad arian CarTulni

politikaSi da sazogadoebaSi?! ra-

tom ar gaamaxvileT yuradReba maT-

ze, ratom ar gaamaxvileT yuradRe-

ba, ra kargi gamosvla hqonda

vTqvaT, rati amaRlobels, an sxva

gamomsvelelbs?! ase rom es yvela-

feri aris Zalian Casafrebuli po-

ziciidan dasmuli kiTxvebi. Tumca

gpasuxobT, am adamianebTan saerTo

ara gvaqvs politikurad, maT hqon-

daT mosvlis survili, viRacam da-

patiJa da movidnen, politikurad

maTTan TanamSromlobas Cven ar va-

pirebT da aq daisvas wertili.

imis gamo rom daviTaSvili iyo

noRaidelTan, amis gamo ra vinmem

unda aukrZalos mas politikaSi

yofna?! urTierToba gvqonda yvela

politikur ZalasTan, urTierToba

mqonia nacionalur moZraobasTan,

romlis damarcxebasac vapirebT sa-

parlamanto arCevnebSi. es aris

normaluri, samoqalaqo sazogadoe-

bis Sesabamiri urTierToba. Cven ra

erTmaneTs xeli ar unda CamovarT-

vaT da gamarjoba ar vuTxraT?! aq

koaliciaze ar aris saubari, Sev-

TanxmdiT, rom isini individualu-

rad iTanamSromleben. baton ZiZi-

gurs aqvs Zalian didi gamocdile-

ba, rogorc erovnul moZraobaSi,

ase Semdeg politikaSi yofniT, mas

aqvs struqturebi, adgilebi komi-

siebSi, rac CevnTvis Zalian Rire-

bulia, amitom am sakiTxebze gvaqvs

dialogi da TanamSromloba. poli-

tikaSic aris pragmatizmi, bunebri-

via!

rac Seexeba Cems naTqvams, rom

natoSi gawevrianeba aris ganuxor-

cielebeli amocana, aq amogleji-

lia erTi fraza, me davayole, sa-

akaSvilis mmarTvelobis pirobeb-

Si-Tqo. ase rom CaxedeT intervi-

us; me Zalian kargad maxsovs, zus-

tad 2008 wels saprezidento ar-

Cevnebze, batoni saakaSvili rogor

dapirda devnilebs, rom Semdeg

zamTars isini gaatarebdnen Tbil

adgilebSi, sakuTar saxlSi. gi-

kiTxavT prezidentisTvis, ratom

ar ganxorcielda es?! mgoni droa

daisvas es kiTxva, didi dro gavi-

da ukve! saakaSvili sul ramdenime

weliwadSi datovebs Tanamdebobas,

am mokle vadaSi natoSi Sesvla ga-

nuxorcielebeli ocnebaa; me ar

minda molodini aumaRldes sazo-

gadoebas, rogorc aumaRla saakaS-

vilma buqarestis samitis win, mag-

ram natoSi saqarTvelo aucileb-

lad gawevriandeba. es aris Cveni

mtkice gadawyvetileba, saqarTve-

los gadawyvetileba. natoSi, ev-

rokavSirSi saqarTvelo gawevrian-

deba, magram araviTar SemTxvevaSi

es ori sakiTxi ar unda mivabaT

teritoriuli mTlianobis aRdge-

nas. Tumca, ra Tqma unda, teri-

toriuli mTlianobis aRdgenisken

gadadgmuli nabijebi, molaparake-

bis dawyeba afxazebTan, osebTan,

bevrad daaCqarebs am process. ama-

zea aq saubari. me minda gulwrfe-

li dialogi daiwyos afxazebTan,

maT unda igrZnon, rom natosken,

evrokavSirisken mimavali saqarTve-

lo, ekonomiurad Zlieri saqarTve-

lo bevrad ufro momgebiania, vid-

re darCnen samxedro okupaciis

qveS. me ver movatyueb Cems qveya-

nas, rogorc atyuebda saakaSvili

natoSi gawevrianebaze, man unda

icodes, rom saakaSvilis pirobeb-

Si es aris ganuxorcielebeli oc-

neba. es aris Cemi pozocia da mgo-

ni cota gamocdileba maqvs saga-

reo politikaSi. hkiTxeT nebismi-

er natos warmomadgenels, Tu sa-

qarTvelos aqvs Sansi saakaSvilis

pirobebSi, anu ori wlis ganmav-

lobaSi, natoSi gawevrianebis. yve-

la getyviT, rom Tqven

gaqvT Sansi dauaxlovdeT

demokratiuli arCevnebiT,

magram gawevrianebis proce-

si ar Caeteva or weliwad-

Si. me kidev erTxel minda

vuTxra Cvens moqalaqeebs,

saqarTvelos natoSi gawev-

riandebis gadawyvetilebaSi

ver Caereva ruseTi, verc

afxazeTisa da oseTis prob-

lemebi ver imoqmedebs mas-

ze. es aris Cveni sagareo

politikis mizani, magram

rogorc ki Cven swrafad

daviwyebT problemebis mog-

varebas da ndobis aRdgenas

afxazebTan da osebTan, es

procesi aTmagad daCqardeba.

saakaSvils saerTod Tavi

davaneboT, saakaSvilebi mo-

dian da midian, aseve alasa-

niebi, prioriteti ki rCeba,

es aris Cveni erovnuli

Tanxmoba, rom unda gavwev-

riandeT evrokavSirSi da

natoSi. magram am miznis

miRwevis gzebi me da saakaS-

vils gvaqvs absoluturad

gansxvavebuli; sakaSvilma

xelidan gauSva mapis miRe-

bis Sansi buqarestSi, imi-

tom rom 5 miliardis gadaxda da

samxedro ritorikis amaRleba da-

iwyo buqarestis samitamde. amis

gakeTeba SeiZleboda sxva pirobeb-

Si da amas eubneboda aSS-s prezi-

denti, amas eubneboda raisi, amas

eubnebodnen germanelebi da fran-

gebi. da meore, man aseve ver aari-

da qveyanas safrTxe; misi, rogorc

politikuri lideris funqciaa

ara marto omSi waiyvanos qveyana,

roca saWiroa da uxelmZRvanelos

SeiaraRebul Zalebs, aramed goniv-

rulad aaridos ruseTis es safr-

Txe qveyanas, romelic iyo da dRe-

sac aris. man verc erTi ver SeZ-

lo, ver gaamTliana qveyana, ro-

gorc hpirdeboda saqarTvelos mo-

qalaqeebs da amitomac daskvna

aris Zalian martivi, is saqarTve-

los natoSi ver Seiyvans.

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19saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto

darbazis ganviTarebis fondi

2010 wlis saqmianobis programuli

da finansuri angariSi

“Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis ganviTarebis fondi”

registrirebulia q. Tbilisis sagadasaxado inspeqciis mier 2006 wlis

18 seqtembers, s/k 204517086. fondis adgilsamyofelia: q. Tbilisi,

meliqiSvilis q.#1. 2008 wlis “22” “oqtombers” fonds mieniWa

saqvelmoqmedo organizaciis statusi.

fondi warmoadgens wevrobaze dafuZnebul saqarTvelos samoqalaqo

kodeqsiT gansazRvrul kerZo samarTlis arasamewarmeo (arakomerciul)

iuridiul pirs.

fondis ZiriTadi mizania “Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto dar-

bazis”, rogorc Zeglis gadarCenaSi, ganviTarebasa da evropul

standartebTan gaTanabrebaSi xelSewyoba; sakoncerto darbazis

Tanamedrove xmovan-gasanaTebeli mowyobilobiTa da aparaturiT

aRWurvis uzrunvelyofa, kulturul saqmianobaSi xelSewyoba da sxva.

fondis 2010 wlis Semosulobebis da xarjebis Sesaxeb angariSi

(finansuri angariSi) warmodgenilia cxrilis saxiT.

cxrili

`̀TTbbiilliissiiss ssaaxxeellmmwwiiffoo ssaakkoonncceerrttoo ddaarrbbaazziiss””

rreeaabbiilliittaacciiiiss pprrooggrraammaa

2010 wels miRebuli grantis Tanxebi mimarTuli iqna “Tbilisis sax-

elmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” reabilitaciisa da axali teqno-

logiebiT (gaxmovaneba, ganaTeba, infrastruqtura da sxva) aRWur-

visaTvis, risTvisac grantis Tanxa sasyidliT gadaeca Sps “Tbilisis

saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” wilis mmarTvel kompanias, Tanxebis

miznobrivad “Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis” reabili-

taciisTvis gamoyenebis pirobiT.

2010 wlis sawarmos balansisafirmo saxelwodeba: "Tbilisis saxelmwifo sakoncerto darbazis ganviTarebis fondi"

organizaciul samarTlebrivi forma: arasamewarmeo(arakomerciuli) iuridiuli piri

iuridiuli misamarTi: q.Tbilisi. p.meliqiSvilis q.1

dargi (saqmianobis saxe): saqvelmoqmedo saqmianoba

zomis erTeuli: lari

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20 saerTo gazeTi #54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

pirvel rigSi, getyviT, rom

es lamis daujerebeli istoria,

cnobili qarTuli zRapariviT

sadRac uRran tyeSi ki ara, ara-

med, Suagul baTumSi moxda... Ta-

nac, amjerad, pretenzia Cvens

`reformirebul~ TemidasTan gv-

aqvs: ise, ki vicodiT, rom aqam-

de ori Temida arsebobda: erTi

Tvalaxveuli da meore _ Tval-

xiluli, magram Tu mesamec iyo

da isic `nacelitasTan~ Casiam-

tyupebuli, namdvilad ver war-

movidgendiT!!!... es lirikuli ga-

daxveva imitom moviyvane, rom

ufro `Tvalxiluli~ gamexada

is `simarTle~, rac am istoria-

Si ikiTxeba, Tumca nebismieri

adamiani, romelic saqmis deta-

lebs gaecnoba, ar gauZneldeba

SaviT TeTrze nakeris danaxva.

daviwyoT imiT, rom am isto-

riaSi ikveTeba, Tu rogor irR-

veva saberZneTis moqalaqeebis

alika Cirozidis, deniza sakas,

sofia certanifus sakuTrebis

uflebebi, romlebzec amJamad

formalurad iricxeba 146 kvad-

ratuli metri saxlTmflobe-

loba, mdebare baTumSi, revaz

komaxiZis quCis #7-Si. (saerTo

sakuTrebis ezoSi).

TavSive gauwyebT, rom aRniS-

nuli moqalaqeebis srulufle-

bianma warmomadgenelma demosfen

Celikidim vrceli saCivariT mi-

marTa qveynis mTavar proku-

rors, baton murTaz zodelavas,

magram Tveebi gadis da saqarTve-

los mTavari prokuroris uwye-

bidan aranairi pasuxi ar gamo-

sula, is faqtic mravlismetyve-

lia...

masalebiT irkveva, rom ba-

TumSi, komaxiZis quCaze #7-Si

mdebare saxli 1951 wlidan

1976 wlamde ekuTvnoda ganmcxa-

deblebis (alika Cirozidis, de-

niza sakas da sofia certani-

fus) bebias oldas kesoRlis,

mis pirad sakuTrebas warmoad-

genda xuTi oTaxi 125, 9 kv. m.

xuTi oTaxi _ 107, 31 kv. m. da

oTxi oTaxi 78, 36 kv. m.)

oldas kesoRlis gardacva-

lebis Semdeg, 1976 wlis 29

oqtombridan am qonebis patroni

xdeba misi memkvidre elefTer

Cirozidi. memkvidreobis kanoni-

ereba notariusma l. kvintriS-

vilma daadastura da samkvidro

mowmobis miRebis Semdeg saxlm-

flobeloba baTumis teqaRricx-

vis samsaxurma 1978 wels daa-

registrira.

elefTer Cirozidi 1987

wlamde soxumSi cxovrobda,

Semdeg ki saberZneTSi gaemgzav-

ra, sadac gardacvalebamde,

2003 wlamde cxovrobda da sa-

qarTveloSi veRar SeZlo Camos-

vla.

mas Semdeg, rac elefTer Ci-

rozidis warmomadgenlebi ba-

TumSi Camovidnen da es 2008

wels moxda, maT kanonieri memk-

vidris saxelze sajaro reest-

ris monacemebiT nacvlad 311,57

kv. m.-sa, mxolod 146 kv. m sax-

lmflobeloba daxvdaT.

am ucnauri istoriis `ab-

surduli apogea~ is gaxlavT,

rom sadReisod sxvadasxva pire-

bis pretenziebidan da sarCele-

bidan gamomdinare, elefTer Ci-

rozidis memkvidreebs aramc Tu

`gamqral~ da gasxvisebul qone-

baze hqoniaT pretenzia, aramed

Turme piriqiT, iqeT `hqoniaT

vali~ damatebiTi 7 kv. m. odeno-

biT e. w. `axali mesakuTrebis~

mimarT?!!... swored rom zedga-

moWrilia andaza, `gaRma Seedave

da gamoRma SegrCebao~.

rogorc saxlis amJamindeli

memkvidreebis warmodgenili ma-

salebidan Cans, saxlis `gasxvi-

sebis~ procesi jer kidev 1977

wlidan dawyebula, roca 19 Te-

barvals elefTer Cirozidis sa-

kuTrebis 1/8 nawili 36 kv. m

odenobiT moqalaqe vasil sixa-

ruliZes gadaeca, xolo imave

wels 17 marts amave raodenobis

farTis (36 kv. m.) mflobeli mo-

qalaqe Tamaz CaCava xdeba. orive

SemTxvevaSi `xelSekrulebebia~

gaformebuli...

dRes arsebuli masalebiT,

baTumSi, komaxiZis #7-Si mdeba-

re saxli sakuTrebis uflebiT

registrirebulia Semdeg subieq-

tebze: alik Cirozidze (elef-

Ter Cirozidis memkvidre) _

36,65 kv.m. deniza sakaze (elef-

Ter Cirozidis memkvidre) _

54,97 kv.m. sofia certaniduze

(elefTer Cirozidis memkvidre)

_ 54,97 kv.m. jambul koCaliZe-

ze _ 75.02 kv.m. Tamaz CaCavaze _

104, 65 kv.m. _ es sajaro rees-

tris mier gacemuli monacemebi

gaxlavT. amave misamarTze yofi-

li teqnikuri aRricxvis masale-

biT 42.05 kv. m. farTi regist-

rirebulia vasil sixaruliZis

sakuTebad.

miaqcieT yuradReba imas, rom

elefTer Cirozidis mier samk-

vidros miRebis Semdeg yovelg-

vari nebarTvisa da kanoniT gaT-

valiswinebuli safuZvlis gare-

Se am misamarTze samoqalaqo re-

estris monacemebiT 36 piria Ca-

werili. am xalxis aRniSnul mi-

samarTze registraciis faqtmac

gamoiwvia kidec maT mier sasa-

marTloSi sarCelis Setana, sa-

dac isini moiTxoven elefTer

Cirozidis memkvidreebisagan 25

procentis gadaxdis sanacvlod

dakavebul farTebze sakuTrebis

uflebebis gadacemas...

namdvil mesakuTresTan dava

pirvelebma am ezoSi mcxovrebma

e. w. `mosargeblem~ ciala cin-

caZem da nugzar abzianiZem da-

iwyes `sacxovrebeli sadgomiT

warmoSobili urTierTobebis

Sesaxeb~ saqarTvelos kanonis

Sesabamisad! maTi moTxovna gax-

ldaT is, rom sasamarTlos mier

cnobili yofiliyvnen maT mier

dakavebuli sadgomis mesakuT-

red, maT mflobelobaSi arsebu-

li qonebis 25 procentis elef-

Ter Cirozidze gadaxdiT. davis

dawyebis erT-erTi motivi gaxl-

daT aRniSnuli kanonis droSi

anu 2010 wlamde moqmedeba, sxva

SemTxvevaSi e. w. `mosargeblee-

bi~ sadaod maT sargeblobaSi

myof qonebaze yvelanair ufle-

bas kargavdnen.

pirveli instanciis sasamar-

TloSi orive mosarCelis saqme

ganixiles. orive mosamarTle

xaTuna bolqvaZem awarmoa, masTa-

naa warmoebaSi mesamec, vasileva-

zoiZis sarCelic. quTaisis saa-

pelacio sasamarTloSi saqmeebi

mxolod erTma kolegiam, irma

peraniZis TavmjdomareobiT gani-

xila. yuradRebamisaqcevia is

faqti, rom, rogorc wesi, baTu-

mis sasamarTloSi samoqalaqo

saqmeebs oTxi mosamarTle ixi-

lavs. da am dros yvela saqme,

romelic elefTer Cirozidis

sakuTrebis winaaRmdegaa, `ra-

tomRac~ xvdeba maincdamainc xa-

Tuna bolqvaZesTan, iseve `Sem-

TxveviTobiT~, rogorc saapela-

cio palataSi marto irma pera-

niZesTan.

wardgenili sarCelebidan

ciala cincaZis mier aRZruli

dava mosarCelis sasargeblod

dasrulda saapelacio sasamarT-

loSi. gadawyvetilebiT saapela-

cio sasamarTlom baTumSi, koma-

xiZis 7-Si 31, 50 kv. metrze sa-

kuTrebis ufleba daudgina. am

ukanasknelis mier elefTer Ci-

rozidis memkvidreebis sasargeb-

lod farTis sabazro Rirebule-

bis 25 procentis gadaxdis sa-

nacvlod. aseve, mosarCele nug-

zar abzianiZis sasargeblod ga-

dawyvita davebi baTumis saqala-

qo da quTaisis saapelacio sasa-

marTloebma, komaxiZis 7-Si nug-

zar abzianiZesac daukanones da-

kavebul farTze sakuTreba.

axla CamovSordeT sasamarT-

lo qronikis aRweras da imaze

visaubroT, Tu ra uxeSi kanon-

darRvevebiT warimarTa orive

instanciis sasamarTloebSi saq-

meebis ganxilva... ar gadavaWar-

bebT, rom es iyo araobieqturo-

bis da mikerZoebis aSkara demon-

strireba... daviwyeb imiT, rom

sasamarTlo procesebze elef-

Ter Cirozidis memkvidre alik

Cirozidi kanoniT dadgenili we-

siT ar iqna mowveuli. sasamarT-

los arc ki gaugzavnia misTvis

arc erTi sarCeli. aseve sasa-

marTlos mopasuxeebad ar daur-

Tavs arc sxva memkvidreebic: de-

niza saka da sofia certanidu.

arc maT miuRiaT sarCelebi da

arc saapelacio saCivrebi. orive

instanciis sasamarTlom saqmeebi

am aucilebeli procedurebis

gareSe ganixila. rac Seexeba sa-

apelacio sasamarT-

los, man arc erTi

saqme ar daabruna pir-

vel instanciaSi, miaq-

cieT yuradReba: pir-

veli instanciis we-

siT ganixila saqmeebi

deniza sakas da cer-

tanidus mimarT, rac

saqarTvelos kanonm-

deblobiT dauSvebe-

lia.

samoqalaqo saqmeSi

arsebuli, Tavad abzi-

aniZis mier warmodge-

nili da saapelacio

saCivarze TandarTuli

mtkicebulebebi, komu-

naluri gadasaxadebis

qviTrebi adastureben

imas, rom zurab abzianiZe da ara

nugzar abzianiZe ixdida komuna-

lur gadasaxadebs komaxiZis #7-

Si, literi `a~ bina (oTaxi)

#6-is mixedviT da isic 2000

wlidan da ara 1996 wlamde,

rogorc amas mosarCele amtki-

cebs.

rac Seexeba calke mdgom 39

kv. m. sacxovrebel da 11 kv. m

damxmare farTs, romlis misa-

kuTrebasac cdilobda mosarCe-

le, am farTSi wlebis ganmavlo-

baSi cxovrobdnen elefTer Ci-

rozidis naTesavebi _ SCukina

meropi da SCukina ana, romelTa

gardacvalebis Sedeg aRniSnul

farTs ukanonod daeufla abzia-

niZe. es garemoeba dasturdeba

memkvidris mier warmodgenili

sabinao wignis amonaweridan. Ta-

nac, saapelacio sasamarTloeb-

zec daadastura abzianiZem es

garemoeba. magram sasamarTloze

moxda gaugonari faqti, roca

mosamarTlem mainc CaTvala, rom

SCukinas yofili farTic elef-

Ter CirozidisTan dadebuli ze-

piri garigebis safuZvelze SCu-

kinebis gardacvalebis Semdeg ab-

zianiZem kanonierad miiRoo!?...

miuxedavad imisa, rom ar arse-

bobda araviTari mtkicebuleba

imisa, rom abzianiZe elefTer Ci-

rozidma SCukinebis yofil samf-

lobeloSi Cawera da is ixdida

komunalur gadasaxadebs am oTa-

xebis mixedviT...

aq kanondarRvevebis mTeli

kaskadia da Wirs kidec maTSi

sruli garkveva, Tumca aris ise-

Tebic, romlebic aranair rea-

lur logikaSic ki ar jdeba:

Tundac is, rom sasamarTlom

mtkicebulebad miiRo da Seafasa

mosarClis mier warmodgenili

sabinao wignis Canaweris gayal-

bebuli asli, romelic, warmo-

idgineT da Sesrulebuli iyo

rusul enaze. kanonis Tanaxmad

ki sasamarTloSi warmodgenili

yvela dokumenti Sesrulebuli

unda iyos qarTul enaze, winaaR-

mdeg SemTxvevaSi maT iuridiuli

Zala ar aqvT.

siyalbisa da arakompetentu-

robis klasikuri magaliTia

isic, rom sacxovrebeli sadgo-

miT warmoSobili urTierTobis

Sesaxeb kanonis miRebis momenti-

saTvis nugzar abzianiZe amowe-

rili iyo komaxiZis q. #7-dan,

rac dasturdeba mis mier war-

modgenili sabinao wignis amona-

weriT, kerZod, wignis grafaSi

Cartymulia Stampi, Cawera 16-

2/X-1984 weli, amowera 27/XII

1984 weli. anu abzianiZe sul

raRac ori TviT yofila Caweri-

li aRniSnul misamarTze, rac

namdvilad ar aris sakmarisi me-

sakuTris farTze raime ufleb-

rivi pretenziebisaTvis, xolo

sabinao wignis dednis mopovebis

Semdgom memkvidreebis mier dad-

genili iqna, rom cincaZis 1952

wlis e. w. `CaweraSi~ Canaweri

Sesrulebulia burTuliani av-

tokalmiT. Cawera ki ganxorcie-

lebulia 1984 wlis pasportis

monacemebiT. xolo 1995 wlis

CaweraSi gayalbebulia mesakuT-

ris Stampi. (cnobisaTvis: aq al-

baT yalbismqnelebs gamorCaT, an

ar icodnen, rom burTulebiani

avtokalmebi mxolod 50-iani wl-

ebis bolos Seiqmna da es msof-

lio miRwevad iqna aRiarebuli,

ase, rom 1952 wels am tipis av-

tokalamze fiqric ki warmoud-

geneli ram iyo).

ufro metic, arc 1952 da

arc 1963 wels elefTer Ciro-

zidi baTumSi, komaxiZis q. #7-

Si aranair qonebas ar flobda,

igi mesakuTre gaxda mxolod

1976 wels pirvelad, mis sakuT-

rebaSi arsebuli mTliani far-

Tis nawili 1977 welsaa gasxvi-

sebuli vasil sixaruliZeze. igi

Cveulebrivi sanotaro wesiTaa

ganxorcielebuli da ara zepiri

xelSekrulebiT. rac Seexeba

nugzar abzianiZes da ciala cin-

caZes, maTTan elefTer Ciro-

zids aranairi nasyidobis xel-

Sekruleba ar daudvia. da es pi-

rebi e. w. forma pirvelSi da

sabinao wignSi gayalbebuli

StampebiT arian Cawerili!!!...

kerZod, sapasporto samsaxuris

mier Sevsebuli nugzar abziani-

Zisa da ciala cincaZis piradi

aRricxvis baraTi mesakuTris

grafaSi CarTtymulia im momen-

tisTvis gardacvlili (1973 we-

ls). kesoRli olgas Stampi ko-

maxiZis q. #7-Si kesoRli ol-

gas samkvidro qoneba ki iyo ara

kesoRlis, aramed misi memkvid-

ros elefTer Cirozidis sakuT-

reba. esec Seni reformirebuli

sasamarTlos `samarTalSedev-

ri~!

nugzar Jordaniaspecialurad baTumidan

Turme ra ar xdeba CaliT daxurul `absurdeTSi~?

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21saerTo gazeTi#54 (183), 21-23.XII, 2011 w.

qarTuli filologiis fu-

Zemdebeli korneli kekeliZe Ta-

visi daxvretili vaJis _ aleq-

sandres (liosikos) Sesaxeb ara-

fers ambobda, TiTqos mis da-

RupvasTan erTad akrZaluli

hqonda Svilis saxelis xsene-

bac... roca ufrosi vaJis daxv-

retis ambavi gaigo, mecnieri me-

ore meuRlis (minadora kasra-

Zis) sofelSi, cxinvalis raio-

nis sofel qemertSi isvenebda.

tragikuli ambis macneebma qemer-

tidan ise waiyvanes korneli,

arc ki icoda, risTvis mihyav-

daT. mxolod gzaSi uTxres Svi-

lis daxvretis Sesaxeb da aiZu-

les korneli, Svilze saaugo

werili gamoeqveynebina, rom es

TiTqos antiqarTuli movlena

iyo. antiqarTul movlenaSi ki

korneli kekeliZe 1924 wlis

ajanyebaSi vaJis monawileobas

gulisxmobda. marTalia, aseTi

konformistuli nabijiT korne-

li kekeliZem reJimis moTxovna

Seasrula, magram mogvianebiT,

mTeli sicocxli manZilze, am

saqciels Tavis Tavs ar patiob-

da.

korneli kekeliZis tragiku-

lad daRupuli Svili garegno-

biTac gamorCeuli da niWieri

qarTveli vaJkaci gaxldaT. li-

osikos Sesaxeb cnobebi metad

mwiria. mas col-Svili ar dar-

Cenia. liosikom 1924 wels daa-

arsa iataqveSa gaerTianeba „Ta-

visufali saqarTvelo”. maSin

aleqsandre (liosiko) 18 wlis

iyo. organizacia erT–erT wevrs

gaucia. imasac amboben, rom Ce-

kistebma samaCabloSi dasasveneb-

lad Casuli korneli Tavidan

daapatimres da ise Caiyvanes

TbilisSi, magram, rodesac da-

kiTxvebis Sedegad darwmundnen,

rom mas am organizaciasTan ara-

viTari Sexeba ar hqonda, gaaTa-

visufles. erTaderTi, rac lio-

sikos Sesaxeb cnobilia, isaa,

rom igi monawileobda qaquca

ColoyaSvilis xelmZRvanelobiT

mowyobil ajanyebaSi, romelic

marcxiT dasrulda. orkviriani

umZimesi brZolebis Semdeg wiTe-

li armiisa da Cekas nawilebma

ajanyeba sisxlSi CaaxSves. sam-

xedro operaciebs Tan erTvoda

1924 wlis 30 agvistodan seq-

tembris damlevamde ganxorcie-

lebuli, manamde uprecedento

represiebi, romelmac Tormeti

aTasamde adamianis sicocxle Se-

iwira. amdenad, danarCeni infor-

macia liosikos Sesaxeb TiTqmis

ar arsebobs da arc batoni kor-

neli mis Sesaxeb arafers ar hyv-

eboda. gadmocemis Tanaxmad, ro-

ca liosikos saxlSi miadgnen,

is fanjridan gadamxtara da Ce-

kistebs gzaSive mouklavT. aleq-

sandre kekeliZe dauxvretiaT

dRevandel Tavisuflebis moe-

danze.

sainteresoa, Tavad korneli

kekeliZe rogor gadaurCa repre-

siebs, an ratom apatia mas re-

Jimma aseTi meamboxe Svilis gaz-

rda?! am sakiTxze bevr mis Tana-

medroves Tu momdevno Taobis

warmomadgenels ufiqria. misi

gadarCenis erT-erTi versia ki

isev stalins unda ukavSirdebo-

des. korneli kekeliZe da sta-

lini erTad swavlobdnen Tbili-

sis seminariaSi, isini Tanatole-

bi iyvnen. erTxel konfliqti

mouvidaT da kornelis wigni Ca-

urtyams TavSi soso juRaSvi-

lisTvis, radgan mas ar uTxove-

bia wigni. romeliRac wigni

vTxoveo, – ixsenebda; stalinma

miTxra: rad ginda, mainc ver ga-

igeb am wignis Sinaarss Seno.

amas mohyolia es yvelaferi.

mogvianebiT amis gamo kornelis

sul eSinoda, stalins ar gaex-

senebina es ambavi. Tumca 1936

wels, roca saqarTvelos dele-

gacia moskovSi olimpiadaze

stumrad imyofeboda, stalins

cnobili reJisoris, mixeil Wia-

urelisTvis aseTi ram uTqvams:

Tqven iq ori didi mecnieri

gyavT _ ivane javaxiSvili da

korneli kekeliZe da maT moua-

reTo. albaT, am frazam gadaar-

Cina, Torem ivane javaxiSvilsac

da korneli kekeliZesac iseve

miayolebdnen, rogorc sxva in-

teligentebs, miT ufro, rom

kornelis Svili 1924 wlis

ajanyebaSi monawileobda,

Tanac arsebobda im drois-

Tvis meore miutevebeli

„danaSauli“ _ korneli ke-

keliZe mRvdeli iyo.

marTlac, Tavis droze

igi mRvdlad ekurTxa, mag-

ram arasdros samrevlo ek-

lesiis mRvdeli ar yofi-

la. is gaxldaT sasuliero

seminariis eklesiis mRvde-

li. rodesac TbilisSi

1916 wels pirveli qarTu-

li sasuliero seminaria

gaixsna, (dRevandeli mecx-

re saavadmyofos SenobaSi),

misi pirveli reqtori gax-

ldaT korneli kekeliZe.

igi dekanozi iyo. roca ki-

rioni akurTxes kaTaliko-

sad, 1917 wels, pirveli

jildo, romelic man gasca,

korneli kekeliZisTvis iyo

gankuTvnili_saeklesio mi-

tra, sapatio Tavsaburavi.

stalinisa da kekeliZis

gzebi erTxel kidev gadaik-

veTa. 1951 wels stalini

isvenebda borjomSi. korne-

lic iq isvenebda. am periodSi

gamovida „Zveli qarTuli mwer-

lobis“ pirveli tomis ganmeore-

biTi gamocema. literaturis in-

stitutis TanamSromlebma sTx-

oves kekeliZes, am wigniT misu-

liyo stalinTan. amis Zalian wi-

naaRmdegi iyo batoni korneli,

radgan tragikuli ambebis Sem-

deg (mas Zmac dauxvrites) igi

cota SeSinebuli gaxldaT, mag-

ram sabolood daiyolies. mivi-

da, magram ar miiRo stalinma,

SemouTvala, wigni kancelaria-

Si datovos, me dasasveneblad

var Camosuli da ara saqmiani

SexvedrebisTviso.

sxvaTaSoris, korneli keke-

liZisa da saqarTvelos maSinde-

li patriarqis, kalistrate

cincaZis ojaxebi erTmaneTis

moyvrebi yofilan. korneli ke-

keliZis ufrosi dis meuRle

(amfiloqe cincaZe) kalistrate

cincaZis Zma iyo. kornelim Tbi-

lisis sasuliero seminaria

warCinebiT roca daasrula,

swavlis gasagrZeleblad kievis

sasuliero akademiaSi gamgzav-

rebamde misula kalistrate

cincaZesTan da rCeva ukiTxavs.

kalistrates uTqvams, Tu ga-

mocdebs ver daiWer (ver Caaba-

reb), kievs mainc daaTvalierebo.

marTlac, mis rCevas daujera.

rogorc TviTon korneli xum-

robiT ityoda xolme, SesaniSna-

vad vasrulebdi kalistrates

davalebas da kievs vaTvaliereb-

dio. erTxel kievis akademiis

saerTo sacxovreblis im oTax-

Si, sadac korneli or abituri-

entTan erTad iyo dabinavebuli,

reqtori Sesula da ukiTxavs,

Tqvens garda mesame vin ariso.

uTqvamT, erTi qarTvelia, rome-

lic qalaqs aTvalierebso. mas

upasuxia, gadaeciT am qarTvels,

dae, iswavlos, xetials ki Tavi

daaneboso. im dros kornelis

jer kidev ar hqonda gamocdebi

Cabarebuli. Semdeg marTlac

warmatebulad Caabara gamocdebi

da imave kievis akademiis req-

tors madlobis telegrama ga-

ugzavnia Tbilisis sasuliero

seminariaSi aseTi warCinebuli

studentis gagzavnisTvis. kievis

sasuliero akademiis dasrule-

bis Semdeg iqve tovebdnen ka-

Tedraze. sasuliero akademiam

Suamdgomlobac aRZra, rom kor-

neli kekeliZe wminda adgilebis

mosanaxuleblad gaegzavnaT, sa-

dac qarTuli masala iyo Tav-

moyrili. magram ruseTis sinods

uari uTqvams, misTvis sakmari-

siao da dabrunda TbilisSi.

sainteresoa, rom kievSi swa-

vlebis periodSi saqarTvelos

siwmindeebTan dakavSirebiT kor-

neli kekeliZes arafers aswav-

lidnen. amas adasturebs kalis-

trate cincaZis mogonebac, ro-

melic imave sasuliero akademi-

aSi swavlobda. erT-erT profe-

sors aTonis mTis (sadac qarT-

velTa sulieri cxovreba Cqef-

da) istoriis Sesaxeb leqcia Ca-

utarebia. kalistrate wers, me,

Tornike erisTaviT STagonebul-

ma kacma, Seuracxyofilad vigr-

Zeni Tavi, radgan profesorma ar

daasaxela qarTuli masala. ko-

ridorSi Sevxvdi am profesors

da pirdapir vkiTxe, ratom qar-

Tuli masala ar daasaxeleT.

profesors upasuxia, me qarTu-

li masala ar vicio. kalistra-

tes uTqvams, mari broses mier

„qarTlis cxovreba“ ukve fran-

gulad aris naTargmni da Tqven

es unda gamogeyenebinaTo. profe-

sors upasuxia, me Tqveni daxma-

rebiT gavecnobi am masalas da

amieridan Cems momaval leqcieb-

Si gamoviyenebo. Semdeg kalist-

rate dasZens, rom axalgazrdu-

li siTamamiT momivida es yvela-

feri da, ra Tqma unda, is pro-

fesori sakmaod Caxedulic iyo

da didi avtoritetic gaxldaT

saeklesio istoriaSio.

rac Seexeba korneli kekeli-

Zes, igi daojaxda da kievidan

Camoiyvana iqauri qali. sakmaod

lamazi, magram maTi ojaxi ar

Sedga da 1918 wels sami Svilis

miuxedavad (maT Soris, ufrosi

liosiko iyo), isini gaiyarnen.

1918 wels, universitetis

gaxsnis Semdeg, korneli kekeli-

Zem datova sasuliero uwyeba da

univeritetSi gadavida, romlis

erT-erTi fuZemdebeli Tavadac

iyo ivane javaxiSviliTan erTad.

Tumca es ar niSnavs, rom korne-

li kekeliZem gawyvita urTier-

Toba eklesiasTan. is qristianu-

li wesebis erTguli darCa. ro-

ca pirvel cols eyreboda, erT

adgilas uweria kidec, me morw-

mune qristiani var da marto sa-

moqalaqo wesiT gayra ar mamSvi-

debs. me minda, sasuliero wesi-

Tac gaformdes Cveni ganqorwine-

bao.

Zvel mamuliSvilTa Soris

giorgi merCules “grigol xanZ-

Telis cxovrebas” gamoarCevda,

radgan grigolis mTeli cxovre-

ba (romelic 951 wels daiwera),

iyo originaluri erovnuli mwe-

rlobis gvirgvini meaTe saukune-

Si. es iyo Zvel qarTvelTa ide-

alebis warmoCena da erTiani sa-

qarTvelos SeqmnisTvis brZola.

da bolos, korneli kekeliZe

ambobda xolme, ori cxovrebiT

vicxovreo. erTSi sasuliero

cxovrebas gulisxmobda, meoreSi

_ akademikosobas.

manana nozaZe

korneli kekeliZis 18 wlisvaJi Cekistebma daxvrites

saparlamento fraqcia “qristian-ddemokrate-

bis” wevri magda anikaSvili xelisuflebas

SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqone bavSvebis

dazRvevas sTxovs.

rogorc man parlamentis riggareSe sesiaze

ganacxada, laparakia 5–dan 18 wlamde asakis

SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqone mozardebze.

im pirTa CamonaTvalSi, romelTa dazRvevac moma-

val wels moxdeba, SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis

mqone bavSvebi ver moxvdnen, rac socialuri usa-

marTlobaa. deputats gansakuTrebiT miuReblad

miaCnia dedaqalaqis meriis is ganmarteba, rom 5-

dan 18 wlamde SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqo-

ne bavSvebi dazRvevas mxolod dedaqalaqSi mii-

Reben. anikaSvilis SefasebiT, es mxolod da mxo-

lod diskriminacia iqneba.

deputatma mimarTa premier-mministr nika gila-

urs, raTa aRniSnuli kazusi aRmoifxvras da 5-

dan 18 wlamde SezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mqo-

ne bavSvebis saxelmwifo dazRvevisaTvis saWiro

Tanxa biujetSi gamoiZebnos.

anikaSvilis informaciiT, aseTi bavSvebis ra-

odenoba 2 000-33 000–s Seadgens, romelTa dax-

marebisTvisac momavali wlis biujetSi sul 200

000 laris gamoyofa iqneba saWiro.

`medianiusi~

anikaSvili xxelisuflebisagan SSezRuduli SesaZleblobebis mmqone bbavSvebis ddazRvevas iiTxovs

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`saerTo gazeTis~ stumaria

qalbatoni fati sexniaiZe,profesiiT stomatologi, rom-

elsac ori kvira mouwia ucxop-

laneteli stumris iZulebiTi

maspinZloba.

_ qalbatono fati, bolo

dros xSirad saubroben aramiwi-

eri arsebebis SesaZlo stumro-

baze, Tqven ki, is ukve `gaica-

niT~.

_ 1992 wlis agvisto iyo,

TuSeTSi, omaloSi CemTan stum-

rad iyo Cemi ori megobari Svi-

lebTan erTad. erT dRes mxo-

lod me da rusiko varT saxl-

Si da aivanze saWmels vakeTebT.

me qvabs vurev, rusiko raRacas

Wris. gverdiTi xedviT davinaxe,

rom Cems gverdiT viRac gaCerda.

vifiqre, rom rusikoa, magram

rom mivxede, rusiko isev magi-

dasTan ijda da saqmianobda.

qvabSi rom Cavixede, isev davina-

xe is viRac. gavxede, rusiko

isev iq zis. Cemi Tavis SemeSin-

da, magram araferi vTqvi, eseni

ar davafrTxo-meTqi. ramdenime

dReSi sruliad marto davrCi.

vzivar aivanze, vqsov da isev,

gvediTi mxedvelobiT vxedav vi-

Racas. SiSs ar gamCenia.

Camovedi TelavSi da aRarc

gamxsenebia es ambavi. 1993 wlis

maisis mziani dila iyo. Cemi me-

uRle wavida samsaxurSi, mec

unda gavemzado wasasvlelad da

abazanis sarkeSi rom Cavixede,

ras vxedav, quTuTos kuTxe, da-

axloebiT, ceri TiTis frCxi-

lis zomaze CaSavebuli maqvs.

ase rogor movirtyi ZilSi xe-

li-meTqi da mklavebsac rom

Sevxede, mTlad sagonebelSi Cav-

vardi, _ sisxlZarRvebi mqonda

ise saSinlad amomjdari, TiTqos

saTiTaod damaxazes kanze lur-

ji flomasteriT da kidev matu-

lobs gaberva. vgrZnob, raRac

sxvanairad cudad vxdebi. gavane-

be Tavi pirisbanas da isev lo-

ginSi davweqi. Cems Tavs vekiTxe-

bi, ra mWirs, ra SegrZnebaa es.

azrze rom movedi, Cemi sabnis

zemodan meuRlis sabanic mafa-

ria, magram mivxvdi, rom ki ar

mciva, mcxela, magram Tavs rom

amovyof amosasunTad, rom ar

CavZvre sabnebSi, cudad vxdebi.

am Tavis Cayof-amoyofaSi uec-

rad aRmovaCine, rom marto ar

var, viRac aris gverdze. ai, ma-

Sin gamaxsenda TuSeTis ambavi.

SiSis grZnoba ar gaqvs am dros,

interesi giCndeba, danaxva ginda.

_ CaZvromis survilma gagia-

ra?

_ ara! ara! rom aRar vZvre-

bodi, iseTi tkivili damewyo

mTel sxeulSi, romelic xan

sad mecemoda, xan sad, rom kivi-

lamde mivyavdi da ucbad gada-

mivlida. xom aseT tanjvaSi vi-

yavi, mainc gafacicebiT vaTvali-

erebdi gverdiTi mxedvelobiT

im viRacas. is iyo maRal adami-

anze kidev ufro maRali, ecva

Ria ruxi feris, gamoberili,

skafandris msgavsi samosi. Tavi,

tanTan SedarebiT patara hqonda.

saxec moruxo hqonda, Tvalebi

wertilebiviT, nestoebic da pi-

ri raRacnairad gaWrili. ukve

mivxvdi, rom is iyo ucxoplane-

teli.

sabanSi rom vZvrebodi, cota

Sveba mqonda, magram daviRale,

momwyinda es CaZvrom-amoZvromac,

Tavs Zala davatane, avdeqi, sam-

saxurSi davreke, eqTans vuTxa-

ri, rom cudad viyavi da ver mi-

vidodi. Cacma rom daviwye, axla

ukve kisridan dawyebuli, mTel

tanze, gansakuTrebiT mucelze,

mTlad lurjad daxazuli var

gaberili sisxlZarRvebiT da

gugunebs Signidan sisxli. im

momentSi amas ver vukavSirebdi

ucxoplanetels, imas vfiqrob-

di, ra mWirs, ra meSveleba-meT-

qi. iseTi xom ar veCvenebodi gam-

vlelebs, yelamde dafaruli sa-

mosi Cavicvi im sicxeSi da sas-

wrafod wavedi saavadmyofoSi

guram iWiraulTan, sisxlZarR-

vebis eqimTan. me rom mivedi, gu-

rami saoperacioSi Sesasvlelad

emzadeboda, xelebs ibanda. Se-

momxede, ra mWirs-meTqi da ara-

feri sagangaSo aRar mqonda.

Tvalze sisxlCaqcevis gamo ra-

Rac gamomiwera da wamovedi imis

fiqriT, es ra momeCvena-meTqi.

movedi saxlSi da isev daiwyo

guguni yvela sisxlZarRvma da

saSinlad var isev. wamovedi

TbilisSi, aramiancis saavadmyo-

foSi angiologTan, Cems yofil

leqtorTan. aviwie maisuri mo-

farebulSi da isev araferi

mWirs, Tan Cemi profesori Ce-

xoslovakiaSi iyo wasuli sim-

poziumze, sxva aravin iyo sisx-

lZarRvebis normaluri mcodne

da gavbrundi ukan, mivedi saxl-

Si da igive damemarTa. ase gagr-

Zelda 4-5 dRe.

_ meuRle ver xedavda?

_ me ar veubnebodi, ar min-

doda efiqra, rom vafren, xolo

is ver xedavda sisxlCaqcevis

garda verafers. guramTan misv-

lis ambavi ar damimalavs, isic

imitom vuTxari, rom am ambavs

`stumarTan~ ver vakavSirebdi.

mere amixsnes, rom Turme me vi-

yavi `stumris~ magnitur velSi

da vinaidan susti sisxlZarRve-

bi maqvs, mkveTrad iyo gamoxatu-

li, mere ki mieCvia. mTeli ori

kvira, rac `stumari~ saxlSi

damidioda, zogjer ise momeSle-

boda mis interesze nervebi, rom

wamovuxtebodi gabrazebuli `ra

gamiWire saqme!~ da gavivlidi

masSi. saWmels vakeTebdi, paci-

ents viRebdi Tu sapirfareSoSo

Sevidodi, gverdidan ar mSorde-

boda. rogoria, pacientis piris

RruSi vixedebi, raRac kargad

minda davinaxo, esec Sigaa CaS-

terebuli, lamis loya momados.

gansakuTrebiT ainteresebda pi-

ris Rru da saWmeli.

erTs dRes vmuSaob, pacienti

mizis da movida Cemi skolisd-

roindeli amxanagi, maTematikosi

Tina beJaniSvili. Cven alaznis

prospeqtze vcxovrobdiT, misi

ojaxi zustad mopirdapire mxa-

res kavkasionis prospeqtze, mx-

olod riye gvyofda. sami paci-

enti melodeboda da Tinac daj-

da, Jurnalis Tvaliereba da-

iwyo. cota xanSi `stumaric~

Semovida karebis mxridan da Ti-

nam miixeda. mTeli im xnis gan-

mavlobaSi saidumlod vinaxavdi

rasac vxedavdi, ar mindoda vin-

mes eWvi Seetana Cems fsiqikur

mdgomareobaSi da Tinas reaqcia

rom davinaxe, Cems sixaruls

sazRvari ar hqonda _ Tinac xe-

davs! yvela pacienti rom wavi-

da, davrCiT me, Tina da `stuma-

ri~. Tina meubneba, veravis veub-

nebi, Sen unda giTxrao da sis-

xlisCaqcevianad erTi erTze

miyveba imas, rac mec gada-

tanili maqvs da rom isic

ver amxels am ambavs ojax-

Si. (meuRle da ori Svili

hyavda 6-8 klaselebi) imis

Tqma, rom rogor gvixaria

orives, Serekilebi rom ar

varT da gverdze myofi

`stumris~ gaqroba erTi

iyo. Sin misulma Tinam da-

mireka, saxlSi rom mivedi,

ukve aRar davmale simarT-

le da Turme, Cemi meuR-

lec xedavda da Cemi ori-

ve Svilico.

am ambidan ori kviris

Semdeg meuRle megobarTan,

avTosTan erTad movida,

romelic `legionis ubanSi~

cxovrobda da vaxSmobisas is

gveubneba, ver gaigeT, mTeli

`legioni~ 2 kvira gareT rom

vaTenebTo? Turme, ori kviris

ganmavlobaSi, `legionis~ dasax-

lebis Tavze, Zalze dabal si-

maRleze ekideboda e.w `mfrina-

vi TefSi~ da mzesaviT akaSkaSeb-

da midamos, ise, rom araTu ada-

mianebs, pirdapiri mniSvnelobiT,

qaTmebsac ar eZinaT. Tu gaxsovT,

Temur wiklaurmac Tqva erTxel,

TelavSi ucxoplaneteli vnaxeo,

albaT, es periodi iyo. raki

davrwmundi, rom giJad aravin

CamTvlida, Cemi ambavic vTqvi.

gadairia Cemi meuRle. avTo

Turme dainteresebuli yofila

amoucnobi movlenebiT da es rom

gaigo, aitexa, Tales Sonias un-

da vuTxra Tqveni ambavio. sas-

tik uarze davdeqiT mec da Ti-

nac. TelavSi cxovrobda Tales

Sonias megobari da Tanamoazre

batoni Salva, (beriaSvili an

beroSvili) imisTvis mainc uTq-

vams. rom gaigo, me da Tinas ga-

moCena ar gvindoda, gamomigzavna

franguli Jurnali (Senaxuli

maqvs) ucxoplanetelebze, sadac

aRwerilia maTi saxeobebi, rome-

li iyo TqvenTano, _ ra Tqma un-

da vicani.

ratom vaxsene es Jurnali, _

iq moyvanili iyo erT-erTi maga-

liTi ucxoplanetelebTan deda-

miweli, amerikeli asakovani

col-qmris kontaqtisa, romle-

bic dasasveneblad midiodnen

okeanis sanapiroze. Turme, ra-

dio yovel 15 wuTSi afrTxi-

lebda im arealSi myof adamia-

nebs, rom gardauvali iyo saSi-

neli Stormi da saimedo adgil-

ze Sefarebas urCevdnen. isini

iseT adgilze moxvedrilan, rom

veraferi naxes saimedo da gzas

ganagrZobdnen. uecrad raRac ma-

naTobeli obieqti SeuniSnavT da

gauCerdaT kidec manqana. deta-

lebi rom ar movyve, _ mfrinavi

obieqtidan CamoiSala kibe, Camo-

vida evropili garegnobis kaci,

romelsac ecva gemis kapitnis

msgavsi uniforma da iaponuri

aqcentiT inglisurad uTxra,

asuliyvnen maT mcire moculo-

bis `transportSi~, _ cxvrebi-

viT avyeviTo. gamoikvlies (orni

iyvnen) jer qali, Semdeg mamaka-

cis gamokvleva daiwyes da kacs

uecrad proTezi Camovardnia pi-

ris RruSi. dainteresebulan, ra

ariso da kacs proTezi gamou-

Ria piridan. ise SeSinebiaT,

aqeT-iqiT gadamxtaran. rom dam-

Sviddnen, sakuTar kbilebze da-

uwyes kacs jajguri, mere qal-

sac misdgnen. rom gaiges maTi

organuli iyo, mamakacs proTezi

sTxoves, gaitanes meore ganyo-

filebaSi, cota xanSi ukanve da-

ubrunes da gamoistumres.

maSinve Cemi `stumari~ gamax-

senda, is xom swored imiT miS-

lida nervebs, rom CemTan erTad

moZvreboda pacientis piris

RruSi da muSaobas ar macdida,

Cemze metad dainteresebuli

iyureboda Sig. qvabSic imitom

icqireboda didi mondomebiT,

rom mere im masas (misTvis) pir-

Si videbdiT da raRac moZraobas

(vReWavdiT) vakeTebdiT. Wamis

dros sul pirSi Semogvcqeroda

mec da Cems meuRlesac, rom

ityvian lukmebs gviTvlida.

mis aseT dainteresebas imiT

vxsni, rom albaT, maT kbilebi

ar aqvT, an uares SemTxvevaSi,

aqvT, magram kbilis mkurnaloba

ar ician da es maTTvis tragi-

kulad mTavrdeba, nakleb savara-

udoa, rom proTezismagvar rames

ver amzadebdnen.

_ balaxismWamelebs da xor-

cismWamelebs xom gansxvavebuli

kbilebi aqvT, iqneb, isini rom

CvenTvis ucnobi raRacismWame-

lebi arian, imitom aris saocre-

ba Cveni kbilebi maTTvis.

_ me is vici, rom saWmlis

momzadeba da Wamis procesi Za-

lian ainteresebda, qvabSi da pi-

ris RruSi erTnairad Zvreboda.

amitom iyo, rom gabrazebuli

masSi gavdiodi... im JurnalSi

isic ewera, rom maTSi gavla ar

SeiZleba, radgan isini erTnairi

bunebisani ar arian, SeiZleba

raRac cuds mogwios.

_ axla, ar fiqrobT, rom

masTan kontaqti unda dagemyare-

binaT?

_ kontaqts, albaT, mis mmar-

TvelTan davamyarebdi, Tu mas

endomeboda.

_ ver gavige?

_ avTos piriT batonma Sal-

vam gadmomca, rom Tur-

me, is rom moazrovne

arseba yofiliyo, kiTx-

vebs gagviCenda mec da

Tinasac, raRacas

vkiTxavdiT, mivmarTav-

diT. absoluturad ar

momsvlia azrad, rom da-

mewera an pirdapir me-

kiTxa, ra ginda, ra gami-

Wire saqme-Tqo, an imiT

davinteresebuliyavi sa-

idan movida, ra misiiT

da a. S

_ Tu moazrovne ar

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_ erTi cidaa Telavi, `le-

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_ uamravi nacnobi da axlo-

beli myavs, magram warmoidgine,

arasdros momsvlia azrad. ai,

axla rom miTxari, TiTqos ax-

laRa gamovfxizldi. xom vTqvi,

kiTxvebi ar gamiCina. rusul ar-

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ucxoplanetelebi Zalian arian

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__ ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ssaammaarrTTaallSSii vviiss

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TTqqmmiiss uufflleebbaa??

_ saqarTvelos samoqalaqo

saproceso kodeqsis 142-e mux-

lis mixedviT:

Cvenebis micemaze uaris Tqmis

ufleba aqvT:

a) mxareTa meuRleebs;

b) axlo naTesavebs _ Svi-

lebs, SviliSvilebs, Zmebs, debs,

mSoblebs, mSvileblebs, Svilobi-

lebs, mzrunvelebs, meurveebs, be-

biebs, papebs;

g) pirebs, romlebic

TavianTi samsaxurebrivi

mdgomareobis gamo valde-

bulni arian, daicvan sai-

dumloeba, Tu isini gaTa-

visuflebulni ar arian am

movaleobisagan.

Cvenebis micemaze uaris

Tqma dasaSvebia, Tu Cvene-

bis micema gamoiwvevs mow-

mis an misi axlo naTesavis

mimarT sisxlis samarT-

lebrivi devnis dawyeba es

an miayenebs maT qonebriv

zians.

amave kodeqsis 143-e

muxlis mixedviT, Cvenebis

micemaze uaris Tqmis uflebis mi-

uxedavad, piri valdebulia mis-

ces Cveneba, Tu:

a) saWiroa, dadasturdes ga-

rigeba, romlis dadebisas igi

miwveuli iyo mowmed;

b) gasarkvevia ojaxis wevris

dabadebis, daqorwinebis an gar-

dacvalebis sakiTxebi;

g) ama Tu im samarTlebrivi

urTierTobebis damyarebisas igi

moqmedebda, rogorc erT-erTi

mxaris warmomadgeneli.

144-e muxlis mixedviT ki

mowmem, romelic uars ambobs Cve-

nebis micemaze, unda daasabuTos

es uari. sakiTxi imis Sesaxeb,

aqvs Tu ara mowmes ufleba, uari

Tqvas Cvenebis micemaze, sabolo-

od gadawydeba sasamarTlos mier.

* * *

__ ssaammooqqaallaaqqoo ssaammaarrTTaallSSii rroo-

ggoorr xxddeebbaa aarraassrruullwwlloovvaannii mmooww-

mmiiss ddaakkiiTTxxvvaa??

_ 14 wlis asakamde mowmis

dakiTxvisas, xolo sasamarTlos

SexedulebiT _ 14-dan 18 wlis

asakamde mowmis dakiTxvis dro-

sac, SeiZleba mowveuli iqnas pe-

dagogi, aucileblobis SemTxveva-

Si, SeiZleba moiwvion, agreTve

mSoblebi, mSvileblebi, meurveebi

da mzrunvelebi. aRniSnul pirebs,

sasamarTlos nebarTviT, SeuZli-

aT miscen mowmes SekiTxvebi.

gamonaklis SemTxvevaSi, Tu es

aucilebelia, swori da gulwr-

feli Cvenebis misaRebad aras-

rulwlovani mowmis dakiTxvis

dros sasamarTlos winadadebiT

sxdomis darbazidan SeiZleba ro-

melime mxaris gayvana. sxdomis

darbazSi am mxaris dabrunebis

Semdeg mas unda ecnobos aras-

rulwlovani mowmis Cveneba da

mieces SesaZlebloba dausvas

mowmes SekiTxvebi.

_ mowme, romelsac 16 weli

ar Sesrulebia, dakiTxvis Semdeg

tovebs sasamarTlo sxdomis dar-

bazs, garda im SemTxvevisa, rode-

sac sasamarTlo aucileblad mi-

iCnevs am mowmis darCenas sxdomis

darbazSi.

_ 16 wels miuRweveli pirebi

fics ar deben.

* * *

__ mmoossaammaarrTTlleemm ggaaddaawwyyvveettiillee-

bbaa ssaaTTaaTTbbiirroo ooTTaaxxSSii ggaauussvvlleellaadd

ggaammooggvviiccxxaaddaa?? rraammddeennaadd kkaannoonniiee-

rriiaa eess??

_ mosamarTlis qmedeba kanoni-

eria.

rogorc sisxlis, ise samoqa-

laqo samarTalSi mosamarTles

ufleba aqvs gadawyvetileba mii-

Ros, rogorc saTaTbiro oTaxSi

gasvliT, ise saTaTbiro oTaxSi

gausvlelad, adgilze.

* * *

_ rogor isjeba sicocxlis

mospoba gaufrTxileblobiT?

_ saqarTvelos sisxlis sa-

marTlis kodeqsis 116-e muxlis

mixedviT.

I nawili: sicocxlis mospoba

gaufrTxileblobiT, _

isjeba Tavisuflebis

SezRudviT vadiT xuT wlamde an

Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT vadiT

oridan oTx wlamde.

II nawili: igive qmedeba, Cade-

nili ori an meti piris mimarT,

_

isjeba Tavisuflebis SezRu-

duli vadiT xuT wlamde an Ta-

visuflebis aRkveTiT vadiT sami-

dan xuT wlamde.

* * *

_ ramdenime wlis win, amnis-

tiis aqtis gamo, Cemi Svilis mi-

marT sasamarTlom Sewyvita sis-

xlis samarTlebrivi devna. iTv-

leba Tu ara is nasamarTlevad?

_ amnistiis aqtiT Tqveni

Svili gaTavisuflda sasjelis

moxdisagan, anu mas epatia dana-

Saulebrivi qmedebis Cadena.

sisxlis samarTlis kodeqsis

79-e muxlis me-2 nawilis mixed-

viT, sasjelisagan gaTavisufle-

buli iTvleba nasamarTlobis ar-

mqoned.

aRniSnulidan gamomdinare,

Tqveni Svili ar CaiTvleba nasa-

marTlevad.

* * *

_ Seexeba Tu ara xandazmu-

lobis sakiTxi uvado Tavisuf-

lebis aRkveTiT msjavrdebul

pirs?

_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-

sis 71-e da 76-e muxlebis mixed-

viT, sakiTxs, unda Seefardos

Tu ara xandazmulobis vada uva-

do Tavisuflebis aRkveTiT

msjavrdebuls, wyvets sasamarT-

lo. Tu sasamarTlo SeuZleblad

miiCnevs xandazmulobis gamoyene-

bas, uvado Tavisuflebis aRkveTa

Seicvleba vadiani Tavisuflebis

aRkveTiT.

* * *

_ SeiZleba Tu ara pirobiT

msjavris vadamde adre gauqmeba?

_ SeiZleba.

_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-

sis 67-e muxlis I nawilis mi-

xedviT, Tu pirobiT msjavrdebu-

li gamosacdeli vadis aranakleb

naxevris gasvlis Semdeg yofaq-

ceviT daamtkicebs Tavis ga-

mosworebas, sasamarTlos

SeuZlia, im organos ward-

ginebiT, romelic axorcie-

lebs kontrolsa da daxma-

rebas pirobiT msjavrdebu-

lis mimarT, gaauqmos piro-

biTi msjavri da msjavrde-

buls mouxsnas nasamarTlo-

ba.

* * *

_ ras niSnavs qmediT mo-

nanieba?

_ qmediTi monanieba niS-

navs Semdegs: danaSaulis

Camdeni piri nebayoflobiT unda

gamocxaddes samarTaldamcav or-

ganoebSi bralis aRiarebiT, xeli

Seuwyos danaSaulis gaxsnas da

aanazRauros ziani.

* * *

_ SezRuduli Seracxadoba

aTavisuflebs Tu ara pirs, sis-

xlissamarTlebrivi pasuxismgeb-

lobisagan?

_ sisxlis samarTlis kodeq-

sis 35-e muxlis mixedviT.

_ sisxlissamarTlebrivi pa-

suxismgeblobisagan ar Tavisuf-

ldeba srulwlovani, romelic

danaSaulis Cadenis dros imyo-

feboda SezRuduli Seracxado-

bis mdgomareobaSi. ese igi fsi-

qikuri daavadebis gamo ar SeeZ-

lo srulad gaecnobierebina Ta-

visi qmedebis faqtobrivi xasia-

Ti an marTlwinaaRmdegoba anda

exelmZRvanela misTvis.

SezRudul Seracxadobas sa-

samarTlo iTvaliswinebs sasje-

lis daniSvnis dros.

sisxlisamarTlebrivi pasuxi-

smgeblobisagan SeiZleba gaTavi-

sufldes arasrulwlovani, ro-

melic danaSaulis Cadenis dros

imyofeboda SezRuduli Seracxa-

dobis mdgomareobaSi.

* * *

_ ra aris danaSaulis reci-

divi?

_ danaSaulis recidivi niS-

navs winaT ganzraxi danaSauli-

saTvis nasamarTlevi piris mier

ganzraxi danaSaulis Cadenas.

danaSaulis recidivis dadge-

nisas mxedvelobaSi ar miiReba

nasamarTloba Tvramet wlamde

Cadenili danaSaulisaTvis, ag-

reTve, nasamarTloba, romelic

moxsnili an gaqarwylebulia ka-

noniT dadgenili wesiT.

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rom yvelaferi mzad

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politikuri da geopolitiku-

ri realobis formirebisTvis

da dRe dReze Sesabamisi brZa-

nebac SeiZleba gaices.. ar gavs

es yovelive pragmatuli dasav-

leTis stils. TiTqos dro ga-

yavT bolo akordis Sesasru-

lebamde.. an iqneb ufro masS-

taburi cvlilebebi igegmeba

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ravlesobis komenta-

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baze da ruseTSi mim-

dinare movlenebze, iseTi STa-

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lesobis zogierTi wevri ru-

seTze laparakiT cdilobs re-

bilatiacia moaxdinos, anu im-

as ris Tqmasac ver bedaven mi-

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loSi mimdinare movlenebze,

amas didi enTuziazmiT akeTeben

ruseTTan mimarTebaSi. aris ki

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rebis Semdgomi gauaresebis perspeqtivas, vinc gamosavals xelisuflebis samarTliani,

demokratiuli arCevnebiT SecvlaSi xedavs.

qarTuli `ocnebis saxelmwifo~ iqneba qveyana, sadac marTvis sistema daefuZneba ada-

mianis sayovelTaod aRiarebuli uflebebis ganuxrel dacvas.

aRdgeba balansi aRmasrulebel, sakanonmdeblo da sasamarTlo xelisuflebas Soris,

rac gamoricxavs Zalauflebis Tavmoyras erTi politikuri Zalis xelSi da avtorita-

rul mmarTvelobas.

nebismieri sakonstitucio cvlileba an gansakuTrebuli saxelmwifoebrivi mniSvne-

lobis kanoni miiReba mxolod sazogadoebasTan konsultaciebisa da konsensusis piro-

bebSi.

xelisuflebis saqmianobis maqsimaluri gamWirvaleoba rogorc biuje-

tis, ise erovnuli uSiSroebis politikis gansazRvrisas, uzrunvel-

yofs xelisuflebis erTaderTi wyaros, saqarTvelos xalxis intere-

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sasamarTlo daculi iqneba nebismieri gare gavlenisgan. marTl-

msajulebis aRsruleba daefuZneba erTaderT princips _ kanonis

uzenaesobas.

qveynis gamTlianeba Cveni osi da afxazi Tanamemamuleebis qarTu-

li saxelmwifosadmi ndobis aRdgeniT daiwyeba. gvwams, rom am princi-

pebisadmi sazogadoebis TiToeuli wevris erTguleba, miuxedavad eTniku-

ri warmomavlobis, religiuri aRmsareblobis da politi-

kuri mrwamsisa, `qarTuli ocnebis~ asrulebamde ocnebis

saqarTvelos. sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocnebis~

mizania uzrunvelyos sazogadoebis gavlena saqarTvelos

politikur, ekonomikur da socialur ganviTarebaze da

maqsimalurad Caabas igi Cveni qveynisaTvis mniSvnelovani

problemebis gansazRvrasa da ganxilvaSi.

`̀qqaarrTTuullii ooccnneebbaa~~ eekkuuTTvvnniiss yyvveellaass!!

sazogadoebrivi moZraoba `qarTuli ocneba~ gamocdil specialistebTan erTad gansazR-

vravs da maTi daxmarebiT SeimuSavebs konkretul samoqalaqo gegmas samarTlis, adamianis

uflebebis, marTlmsajulebis, ekonomikuri politikis, soflis meurneobis, ekologiis,

jandacvis, socialuri uzrunvelyofis, ganaTlebis, mecnierebis, kulturis, sagareo po-

litikis, konfliqtebis mogvarebis, regionaluri politikis, adgilobrivi TviTmmarTve-

lobis, erovnuli umciresobebis, usafrTxoebis, axalgazrdobisa da sportis aqtualur

sakiTxebze. sazogadoebriv moZraobasTan arsebuli Tematuri jgufebi Seiswavlian calke-

ul dargebSi arsebul viTarebas da SeimuSaveben ganviTarebis efeqtian modelebs. jgufe-

bis wevrebi konsultaciebs gamarTaven konkretuli sferoebis eqspertebTan, saerTaSori-

so organizaciebisa da diplomatiuri misiebis warmomadgenlebTan.

Camoyalibdeba regionaluri struqturebi, romelTa mTavari mizani iqneba sazogadoebi-

sa da politikuri Zalebis konsolidacia samarTliani saarCevuno garemos Sesaqmnelad,

rac, Tavis mxriv, ganapirobebs saxelmwifo mmarTvelobaSi xalxis ndobiT aRWurvili po-

litikuri Zalebis mosvlas.