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BobDeanProjectCamelotLAAwakeandAwareConference19September2009[Ednote:NormallythetranscriptsthathadanypartsinthemthathadbeendifficultforthetranscriberstohearwereputinaudiblesinsquarebracketsinredforBillRyantoattendto,fix,thenhedpostthetranscript;however,duetounexpectedinterruptionsinthenormalworkingprocessinProjectCamelot,thisnormalprocesswasnotabletoproceedforward,sotheaudibleswereleftinthesquarebrackets.]
IntroductionbyJordanMaxwell:
JORDANMAXWELL(JM):WereveryfortunatetohaveRobertBobDeanwithusbecauseBobDeanisreallyaninspirationtoeveryone.
BobDean,whetheryouknowitornot,kindofdroppedoutofsightfor
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awhileandhasntbeendoingtoomanyconferencesandnotverymuchradio.Italkedwithhimrecentlyandheconfidedinmethathehasntfeltmuchliketalkingbecausehesbeendoingsomuchofit.
IfeltthesamewaybecauseIhavebeenkindofquiet,myself,since9/11.IbecameverydisenchantedwiththecountryIliveinsince9/11,butseeingRobertDeancomingbackintothespeakingcircuitwasaninspirationtome.
ImveryinspiredtoseemydearfriendRobertDeandecidetocomebackandbegintotalkwithusagainbecauseIbelievewhathehastosay,andjusthisappearance,justhisperson,isenoughtoinspiremanypeople.So,thatswhyIaskedifIcouldhavethepleasureofannouncinghim,mydearfriendRobertDean;IcallhimBob.
So,hellbehereanymoment,ifyouwilltakeyourseats.
RobertDeanandIgobackalongtime.BackinMesa,Arizona,backintheveryearly90s,ImetBobDeanforthefirsttimeataconference.Hewasspeakingthereandafterwardhewassogracious.
IwasveryimpressedwithBobDeanandheinvitedmetogoouttodinnerwithhim.IwasnervousI'minthecompanyofsomeoneI
admirebuthewasveryencouragingtomeandhewasveryeasytobefriend.
So,IvebeeninspiredbyBobDeanovertheyears.WejusttalkedrecentlyandasIsaid,hetoldmethathehasdecidedtobegintospeaktothepublicagain,whichhasactuallyinspiredmetodothesame.
[applause/shouts/whistles]
TheressomuchIwouldliketobeabletosaythatIhavebeenquiteliterallyafraidtosayinpublic.TheBushregimefrightenedme,scaredme,andifyouknowwhatwasreallygoingonwiththeBush
regime,itwouldscareyoutoo.ItwasafrighteningpresenceonAmericansoil,theBushregime.Whatwevegotnowisnotmuchbetter.
Now,thenextspeakerupisBobDean...[4:02-overtalkBobDeanandBillRyancanbehearddiscussingtechnicalstuffintheforeground.]He'sbeenaninspirationtome.Heisbacknowonthespeakingcircuit.
Speaking,asBobandIdo,almostallspeakersattheseconferenceswilltellyouthatitsnotaneasybeingaspeakeratconferences.Therearemanydownsidestodoingthiskindofwork.
[overtalking]Its[unclear]sometimesandcostsalot.Itcostsyouinrelationships,becauseyoureontheroadalotanditsnoteasytospeaktoa[unclear]audience,believeme.
But,therearesomeupsidestobeingaspeaker,therearesomeperksandnicethingsthatyougetfromspeaking.
Oneisthatyoumeetsomeveryinterestingandfascinatingpeople,andyoubecomefriendswithsomeverylovelyanddecentpeople,andBob
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DeanisoneofthefinestmenIveevermet.
IwanttobeabletointroduceBobasnotonlymydearfriend,butonewhohasnotonlyimpressedme,butinspiredme.AsIsaidtoyoubefore,nowImsayingitforhisbenefit,forhimtohear.
BecausehehascomebackintothespeakingcircuitandbegantotalkwithusagainIthinkitwouldbealossifhedidntIhavebeeninspiredtocomebackintothespeakingcircuitandbegintalkingagain.[applause]
So,withoutfurtherado,themanImintroducingIloveandadmire,andafascinatingman,andIwouldsuggestyoulistenclosely,becausehesgotalottotalkaboutthatheknowsfirst-hand.RobertBob--Dean.
[applause/shouts/whistlesBobhugsJordanashecomesonstage.]
BOBDEAN(BD):Thecheckisinthemail,Jordan.
JM:Aslongasitdoesntbounce,that'sthemainthing.
BD:Itwontbounce.
JM:Okay.
BD:Thankyou.
PresentationbyBobDean:
BD:IwasinthebackoftheroombackthereandIdidntrealizethatthisscoundrelhere,BillRyan,wasgoingtocomeupwithanoverheadprojector,soIhadtorushuptomyroomandgrabmytransparencies.[laughter]So,IvegotafewpicturestoshowtoyouthatIthinkyoumightfindinteresting.[applause]
IwanttosayitsanhonortobeintroducedbysomeonelikeJordan.Hesoneoftheforemostscholarsofourtime,andIhonorandrespecthim,andashesaid,wereoldfriends;wegobackalongway.
IalsowanttosayawordortwoabouttheyoungmanwhowasuphereonthispodiumbeforeIshoweduphere.RichDolanisveryspecial.Hesprobablyoneoftheforemosthistoriansofourtime,andIstronglyurgeyouencourageyoutonotonlybuyandreadhisfirstvolume,butgetthesecond,becauseImwaitingexpectantlyforVolumeThree.
Thatyoungmanhaspulledthecoverbackfromthiscover-upandthe
scandalthatwevebeenlivingthroughforthelast60,70years,andItakemyhatofftohim.
IveknownhimforsometimeandImsoencouragedbyyoungmenlikehimthatarepickingupandgoingwiththisprogram,becauseasImsureallofyouknow,Imamemberoftheoldguardandwerediminishingdailyliterally.NotaweekoramonthgoesbythatIdonthearthatsomeofmyoldcroniesaregone.
Theyrenotgone...theyvejustcrossedback;theyreHomenow,butI
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missthem,andImgratifiedtoseesomeoftheyoungmencomingalongthatarefillingthespaceforus.
ImalsogratifiedtolookoutandseeyouguysbecauseyourethereasonImhere.Idontspeakpubliclymuchanymore.Ifinditinconvenient.Ihatelikehelltotravelinairplanes.
IgotbackfromSpainhereattheendofJulyandIhadtogotobedforadamnweek.[laughter]
ThenIwentthroughKennedyAirportandIwasoutragedwhenIlookedaroundatKennedy.Itsanationaldisgrace.Imean,itsdirty,thebrokenfurniture,theserviceisrotten,therestroomsarefilthyandmostofthemareclosed.ItsterribletowalkthroughKennedyhavinggonethroughtheairportatBarcelonaandseeingnewandmodernand...
OhmyGod!ThoseSpaniardsarereallysomethingelse!Theyputonashowthere,inBarcelona,thelastweekinJulythatwasoutstanding.1,500peopleshowedupandtheyhadstandingroom.
ItwasahellofagoodconferenceandIwashonoredtobeinvited[alongwith]StevenGreer,StevenBassett,whoIwilltouchupon
brieflyinafewminutes.IwasgratifiedbytheSpaniardstheyregreathostsandtheyreveryenlightenedandveryinterestedinthissubject.
Asmanyofyou,Imsure,know,thissubjecthasbeenmyfavoritesubjectnowforoverthelast20years.Ivebeenonthisjourneyfor45years,butIvebeenspeakingpubliclyforthelast20.
Ispeakbluntly,openly,andIviolatemyNationalSecurityOatheverytimeIopenmymouth,[applause]andIplantoviolatemyNationalSecurityOathtonight.[applause/hoots]
Butagain,aspecialthanksforyouguysbecauseIwouldntbehereifitwerentforyou.ImsoencouragedbythepeopleImeetattheseconferencesbecause,notonlyareyouopen-minded,butyoureenlightened,andyoureenthused,becauseIthinkyouvelearned,asIhave,thatthissubjectis,inmyopinion,thegreateststoryinhumanhistory,becauseitisthestoryOFhumanhistory.
Werenotalone,guys,andwehaveneverbeenalone.Wearemembersofaninfiniteuniversefilledwithinfiniteintelligentlife.Wehavehadanintimateinterrelationshipwithseveraladvancedextraterrestrialintelligencesnowfor,oh,atleast10,000years.
Theevidenceisprettyoverwhelmingthatatleastone,perhapstwo,ofthosedifferentgroupshadahandinengineeringthehumangenomeover100,000yearsago.Thatevidenceisliterallyoverwhelming.
Now,weregoingtotouchuponawholebunchofstuff,andIwantyoutounderstand,IhavecometothepointinmylifewhereIhavebecomealmostsympathetictothegovernmentforkeepingthelidonthis
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thing.
Theydontknowhowtoliftthelidonthissubject.TheydontknowhowtoliftthelidonPandorasBox,becausewhentheyliftthelidjustalittletinybitboomthewholedamnthingisgoingtocomeout,andnobodyingovernmentispreparedforthat,becausethestoryissodamnbig.
IknowthatmanyofyouprobablymostofyouareawareofthefamousBrookingsReport.NASAgaveacontracttotheBrookingsInstituteinthelate50s,andthebasicpointwassimplythis:TrytofindoutWhatshouldwedoifwe,inthefuture,shouldencounteradvancedextraterrestrialintelligence?
Theyworkedonthisthingforthreeyears,publisheditin61,deliveredittoCongressin61,andtheyconcludedasaresultofthisstudythat,ifweshould,indeedatsomepoint,runintoadvancedextraterrestrialintelligence,itwouldprobablybeagoodideatokeepyourmouthsshutandnottellthemassesofpeople.
Now,MargaretMeadwasonthecommittee,andshedhadexperiencesintheSouthPacificwithprimitivesocietieswheretheyhadbeenconfrontedbyouradvancedculture,andthoseprimitivesocieties
shriveledanddied.TheconclusionoftheBrookingsstudywasthat,ifwe,indeed,wouldencounteradvancedextraterrestrialintelligence,weprobablyshouldnttellthemassesofpeoplebecausesociologically,theologically,scientifically,itwouldbeadamndisaster.
So,theypublishedthatstudyanditliterallybecamenationalpolicy.Itsoneofthemajorreasonswhythelidhasbeenkeptdownsotightlyonthisthingforsolong.
AsIsaid,itsnotsimplythatwerebeingvisitedbyguysfromother
planets.Itisntsimplythatwerebeingvisitedbyguysfromotherstarsystems,norarewebeingvisited,youknow,fromothergalaxies.GoodGod!Thoseareallgiven.
TheyalsolearnedandtheyknewthatwhenIretiredin76thatwerebeingvisitedbyguysfromotherdimensions.Theyrecomingthroughportals,apparently.Theycreateportals,apparently,andtheyrecomingandgoingfromotherdimensions.Themoreadvancedsocietieswehaveencounteredhavebeenmultidimensional.
Itsnowonderthatourancestorsdeifiedthesedudesback10,000yearsago.Ithinktherearepeopletodaywhowoulddeifythem,if
theyweretoconfrontthemandseewhattheycando,andunderstandwheretheyrefrom,andwhattheircapabilitiesare.Youwouldthinkthatitwasalmostgodliketohavethatkindoftechnology.
So,overtheyearsIhavecometoapointwhereIvealmostbeguntobepatientandtolerateofthegovernmentsliesbutnotquite.[laughter]Notquite.Imsofedupwithgovernmentlies;Idontevenknowwheretostart.[applause/whistles]Youtoo,huh?
Lastweek,IwasoverattheBayAreaconferenceandacoupleof
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peoplesaid:Whathavewelearnedinthelastyearsinceyouwerehere?
Isaid:Well,welearnedthattheAmericanpeopleelectedablackPresident.
Isntthatprettydamnedimpressive?WhowouldhaveeverthoughtthattheAmericanpeoplecouldelectablackPresident?
Listen,guys,Imfromthelastcentury;thatisdynamitetome.Myheartgoesouttothatkid,becauseheslikeable,hespersonable,andhesbright,andIwishhimwell.Ihopetohellhecanpullitoff;hesgotsomuch--damnmuch--onhisplate.
But,heaintgoingtodisclosethissubjectanytimesoonbecausehesnotreadyforthis.Idonteventhinkhesbeenbriefedyetonwhatthisisallabout.
Youallknowthestory,whathappenedtoJimmyCarter,whopromisedeverybodythat,whenhewaselected,hewasgoingtoreleasealloftheUFOinformation?
HegotintoWashingtonandhegothisNationalSecuritybriefing.Hewalkedouthisbriefingwithtearsinhiseyes.Apparently,the
DirectorofCentralIntelligencesaid:Mr.President,youdonthaveahigh-enoughclearance,Sir,tohaveaccesstoallthismaterial.
Now,canyoubelievethat?TheDirectorofCentralIntelligencesays:Also,Sir,youdonthaveaneedtoknow.
AndpooroldJimmyjust...hewilted,andasaresult,heneversaidBooaboutanythingduringhisfouryearsinoffice.Promiseswentdownthetube.
WhowastheDirectorofCentralIntelligence?SomeguybythenameofGeorgeHerbertWalkerBush.
Now,werebeginningtoputpiecestogetherhere.Thepuzzleisbeginningtoformhere.Whossittingontopofthisdamncover-up?[sighs]Ohmy.
Now,Iwanttosharesomethingwithyouhere.TheguysinSpainaskedmecontinually:WhenistheregoingtobeDisclosure?GoodGod,youguys,itsbeenyearsandyearsandyearsnow.WeexpecttheU.S.governmenttoexposethis.Whenyougoingtodoit?
AndIsaid:Guys,[dont]holdyourbreath.Itaintgoingtohappenanytimesoon,becauseitstoobigastory.
Andthen,ofcourse,GreerandBassettwerethereattheconference,and...Well,letmegiveyouasmallparablehere.IvegotalittleparableIveprepared.ItscalledTheThreeStevensandtheApocalypse.[laughter]
Thatsoundsreligiousenough,doesntit?TheThreeStevensandtheApocalypse.
Iwanttonowtouchuponthatword,apocalypse,becausethatsanotherwordthatticksmeoff.Iamsopissedoffatthenumberofpeoplewho
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misusethatword.
MostofmyfundamentalistfriendsandIhaveafew,still,yet,afteralltheseyearskeeptalkingabouttheFourHorsemenoftheApocalypse.OhmyGod.Weredoomed,youknow.War,Famine,Plague,PestilencetheFourHorsemenareriding.
ForGodssake!TheFourHorsemenhavebeenridingfor10,000damnyears![laughter]But,mostofthemneverreallygraspthemeaningofthewordapocalypse.ItsaGreekwordandithasseveralmeanings:therevealing,theuncovering,andthedisclosing.Ofwhat?Thetruth.
Andyourelivinginthemiddleoftheapocalypse.Youvebeenlivinginitforthelast10to20yearsandyouregoingtobelivinginitforanother20or30years.Therevealing,theuncovering,andthedisclosingistakingplaceasyousithereandasyoubreathe.Itistakingplacenow.
But,IgotintothislittletanglewithGreerandBassett.Irespectthemboth.Theyredecentguys.IveknownStevenGreerforyears.
Theykeephammeringaway.TheyhavetheseconferencesinWashingtonandtheykeepproddingthecongressandtheykeepproddingthegovernment:Youvegottohaveacommittee,youvegottorevealthismaterial,youvegottotelltheAmericanpeoplethetruth,blah-blah-blah.
Andthegovernment...pardonme,buttheygivethemthatmiddlefinger,youknow?Intheair?Excuseme,ladies,Imsorry.Thatsratherrude,butthegovernmentdoesthattoGreerandBassett,andtheygobackandtheysay:Well,maybenextweek,maybenextmonth.Oh,anewadministration.Oh,wevegotPodesta,whoworkedforClinton.WevegotPanetta,whoworkedforClinton,andwevegotayoungPresident,whoIbelieve,ishonestandtransparentandisgoing
totellusthetruth.
IsaidtoBassettandGreer:Dontholdyourbreath,guys.Itaintgoingtohappen.ThatnewPresidentaintgoingtoputthatonhisplate,notifhecanavoidit,becausehesnotgoingtogetthewholestoryrightnow.HesgotsodamnmuchpiledupoutsideofhisOvalOffice,hecanhardlygetinandoutofit...andyouallknowthestoryonthat.
Now,whostheotherSteven?Ah!AyoungmaninHollywoodSpielberg.Now,wheredoeshefitintothisthing?
Well,whenIwasaskedaboutDisclosure:Isitgoingtohappen?andIsay:No/yes,yes/no,no/yes.Andeverybodyssaying:Whatthehellshetalkingabout?
Disclosurehasbeenunderwayforsometime.StevenSpielbergmadeabunchofmovies.HemadeE.T.,which,Ithink,mostofyouhaveprobablyseen.Thatwasforthekids.
HemadeanotheronecalledCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind,andthatwasforthebigguys.Andthenhemadeatelevisionseriescalled
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Taken,whichwasdynamite.
Theytellme--andIvegotthisfromsourcesthatItrust--thathesgottwoseparateprogramsinthemill:anothermovie,andperhaps,anotherTVseriesthathesworkingonthattheyregoingtocomeupwith,hopefullyinthenextfewyears.
Now,thesemovies,astheycomeout,affectpeople.Theresnotaoneofyouhereintheaudiencethatwasnt,youknow,affectedbyE.T.Itwascute;itwasakidsstory,really.AndIthinktheresnotaoneofyouwhowasnttouchedattheclosingsceneofCloseEncountersoftheThirdKind,whentheguyspiledaboardthatshipandoffitwent.
AndthenTaken,whichIthink,ranforanumberofweeks.Icantrememberhowmanyepisodesitwas.
VOICEFROMAUDIENCE:Twenty.
BOB:Twenty?GoodGod,yes.Wellthatsamajorprogram.Itwaspowerful,wellwritten,anddynamite.Ithadsomuchclassifiedmaterialinit...butmostpeople,Idontthink,everrealizedthattheywerelookingatclassifiedmaterial.
ThentherewasanotherguyoutinHollywoodwhoIgottoknow.Anumberofyearsago,IwashonoredtobeinvitedtobeaspeakerattheMensaRegionalConferenceinOrangeCounty.IwashonoredtobeinvitedandIwentandspoketotheMensacrowd.
TheguestofhonoratthatparticularregionalconferencewasadudebythenameofChrisCarter.Hewastheproducer/directoroftheX-Files,asmostofyouknow.
Afterpresentationsandall,anddrinks,youknow,Igothimasideandwerestandingtheresippingawayfruitjuice,ofcourse.[laughter]IpulledhimoverandIsays:Chris,yougottolevelwithme.
Isays:Ivebeenwatchingyourprogramherenowforsometime.IthinkithadbeenunderwayforaboutsixyearsatthattimeandIsaid:Itsimpressive.Someofyourstoriesaredynamite,someofyourstoriesarentworththepowdertoblowthemaway,butitsaprettydecentseries.
But,Isays,Iwanttoaskyousomething.Therearethreeincidents,threeepisodesofyourX-FilesthatIhappentoknowarehighlyclassifiedgovernmentsecrets.
Ivebeenontheinside,Iknewthesethingstobeclassifiedandheretheyare.ImseeingthemontheX-Files,forGodssake.
AndIsays:Howthehelldoyouguysdothat?
Hesays:Oh,Ivegotsomegreatwriters.
AndIsaid:Bullshit.Nonsense.Poppycock,youknow.WhatisitmygoodoldBritishancestors...?Balderdash.[laughter]
Isaid:Youcanttellmethatyourwritershavecomeupwithclassifiedmaterialthattheyvedramatizedthatarerightonandare
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stillclassified.
Helookedaroundandhegotasheepishgrinonhisfaceandhesays:Well,yeah,wevebeengettingsomestoryideasfromavarietyofsources.
Isays:Where?
Hesays:Well,youknow,Icantreallysay,butwevebeengettingsomepromotionalideasfromdifferentpeople.
Isaid:Well,yourerighton,andIlaidthemoutforhim,thesethreeparticularcasesthatwereclassifiedandstillareclassified.
Andallhedid,helookedatmesheepishlyandhegrinnedandhesays:Youaintseennothingyet.Staytuned.Anditranforanothertwoyears.
Butthere,again,iswhatIwantedtopointouttoyouiswhatSpielbergwasinvolvedin,whatChrisCarterisinvolvedin,andwhatsomeofthedirectorsandwritersoftheStargateseriesandtheStarTrekseries...
In,fromtimetotime,littlebitsandpiecesofmaterialareinjectedintothosestorylinesthatarenotfiction.Theyrenotsciencefiction,theyresciencefact.But,theyreintroducedinsuchawaythatyoudontknowityoudontrecognizeit.Ithitsyouatwhatsknownasthesubliminallevel.
WhenItellyouthatDisclosureaintgoingtohappen,thenItellyouthatDisclosureishappeningnow,Imreferringtothatsubliminaleducationalprogramthatisunderwaythatyoureallbeingsubjectedto.YouregettingtheuncoveringandtherevealingandtheDisclosureinsubtlewaysthatyoudontevenrecognize.
Andyouregoingtogetmoreofitbecausetheprogram,apparently,israthersuccessfulandtheguyswhoputittogetherareratherpleasedatyourresponses.Youregoingtobegettingmorestories,andyouregoingtogetsomestoriesthataresofarout,youregoingtosaytoyourself:GoodGod,thatcouldnthappen.ButgoodGod!itishappening.
BenRich,beforeheretiredfromLockheedMartin,madesomecommentstoanumberofpeoplethere,California.--wereinCalifornia--forgiveme,ImfromArizona.IbakedmygourdinPhoenixforthelastsixtoeightmonthsandIloseitsometimes.[laughter]
Thisprogramisunderway.Itssubtle;itscontinuous;anditis
subliminaleducation;itsaffectingyou--itsaffectingeverybodyandyouregoingtoseemoreofit.
TheydiditintheStargateseries.TheydiditinStarTrekKirk,JeanLukePiccardandtherestofthemfromtheEnterprise.Theysliplittlebitsandpiecesinfromtimetotimewhereyouthink:Ooo,isntthatexciting?Isntthatwayout?
Guys,itsnotthatwayout.BenRichsaid,beforeheretired--hesays:Were100yearsaheadofestablishmentscience.
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Thisisaguywhohadarighttoknowandhehadaneedtoknowandhewasintheinsideoftheprogram.Were100yearsaheadofestablishmentsciencethestuffthatnormallyisunderstoodbyguysinuniversities,youknow,onthestreet...Richsayswere100yearsbeyondthat.
Andhesaid:Youknow,wecouldtakeE.T.home.Now,themoviewasoutataboutthattime,andyouknowthestory.Thelittledudesays:E.T.gohome,E.T.wantstogohome.Richsays:WecantakeE.T.home.
Now,BenRichhasbeendeadfortenyears,forGodssake!
IknewanotherLockheedMartinscientistwhohaspassedaway,aguybythenameofDavidFroningwhoworkedwithLockheedMartinforalmost30years.IinvitedDavidtospeakataconferenceinPhoenixsomeyearsback.WendelleStevensandIputonaprogramandwegotholdofFroning.
WeknewhewasbrilliantandweknewhedbeenontheinsideofresearchatLockheedMartinforsolong.WegotDavidtocomedownandspeakatourconferencethereinPhoenix,andhewasgettingupinyearsDavidsgoneHomenow.Hewasgettingupinyearsandhesharedsomethingswithus.
Froningsaid:Youknow,Bob,hesaid,Ivebeenretirednowfor10years.Hesays:BeforeIretired,IwasintheAdvancedSystemsDivisionofLockheedMartinandweweredealingwithsomethingwecalledmodifiedfieldpropulsionvariablefield,hesaid.
Ofcourse,hebegantolosemeimmediately;Ididntknowwhathewas
talkingabout.Matter/antimatterconversion.Exoticfieldtension.Wormholes.
Hesaid:Itwillmodifytimeandspace,andhesays:Wehavehadtransluminalflightforover30years.
AndIhadtostopagain,andIsays:Holdit.Transluminal,hyperluminal,flight?Isays:Youretalkingaboutfaster-than-light,forgoshsakes.
Hesaid:Yeah,wevehaditnowfor30years.NowthiswasfromDavidFroningwhodspentthebiggestchunkofhislifeasanadvancedsystemsengineerforLockheedMartin.
ThenwegetthematerialfromBenRich,andsomebodysaidtoRich,hesaid:Man,whatthehellareyoureallytalkingabout?
Hegoestotheblackboardhisbig[unclear]forretirement,Ithink,wasoneofthemajorhangarsovertherehegoesupandhewrites:UnFundedOpportunities.
Isay:Whatthehellareyoutalkingabout?
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HetakesthechalkandhecirclesU,F,andO,andthenheleftthestageandwalkedoutthedoor,andtheyreallthinking:GoodGod!What?Thismanslostithere.UnFundedOpportunities,U-F-O?
Whathewasinferringandsayingliterallyintheirface:Yes,wehavereverse-engineeredtechnologyfromaliencraft.Andwereflyingitanditworks!WecantakeE.T.home!
Now,oneofthereasonsIgetsotickedoff...Youhavetoforgivemehere,Imgettingold.IdonthavethepatienceIusedtohave.
TherumorhasbeengoingaroundthatIveturnedouttobeamean,rottenoldfart.[laughter]Cynical,youknow?Grumpy.Well,thatsnotentirelytrue.Iliketothink,asHenryHiggenssaid,thatIhavethemilkofhumankindnessbythequartineveryvein!
But,Icantreallypullitoff.IguessIamgettingkindofgrumpyinmyoldage.
Guys,Imgettingangry.IreallyamgettingangriereverydaywhenIthinkabouttheconjobthatsbeingpulledonyouand300-millionotherAmericansonadailybasis,wheretheyareliterallyconningyou
tothepointtheyretakingyoutothecleaners.Theyrestealingyoublindandthentheyrelyingtoyouaboutit.
Ihavealistof...IcallitmyPissed-OffList.[laughter]Youknow,whenyoureoldandyouresittinginretirement,youhavetospendyourtimedoingsomething,[laughter]soIpreparedthislist.
Topofthelistarepoliticians.[laughter]AndIsay,repeatedly,thatyouguyshavethebestcongressmoneycanbuy.ThatbunchofclownsinWashingtonwhothinkofthemselves,callthemselves,congressthatweshouldbuildspecialprisonsforthem.
Imserious.[laughter]Ithinkabouthalfofthemshouldbeputupinfrontofajudgeandsentofffortenyears,becausetheyreabunchofdamnthieves.[applause]
Notonlyaretheymolestingchildren...andwhatthehell,theGovernorofNorthCarolina?SouthCarolina?BigscandalhisloveaffairisinArgentina.Thehellwithhiswifeandkids;hisloveaffairisinArgentina.
Andthenwevegotcongressmenwhoareguiltyofthesamething.Someofthemaregay;andImnotputtingthemdownbecausetheyregay.Imputtingthemdownbecausetheylieaboutit.
AsIsay,guys,wevegotamessofclownsbackthere.WhatwasitthatWillRogerssaid?Themostpermanent,ongoing,self-continuingprogramintheworldofliarsandcheatsistheUnitedStatesCongressandWillsbeengoneforalong,longtime.
So,Igetmydanderup.IventmyspleenwhenIcomeandtalktoguyslikeyou,andIwillsaythistoyou:ThatthenextelectionforcongressandthenextoneforthePresident,thinkcarefullyabout
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whatclownsyouwanttosendofftoWashington.Imeanexaminethemcarefully,becausetheyresupposedtorepresentyouandtheyrenotdoingaverygoodjobofit.
Okay,excuseme.Idohavetendencytorambleabit,becauseIvegotsodamnmuchtocover.[sighs].
Ohyes,oneofthetopofmylistsisNASA.Youknowthatcrowd?NeveraStraightAnswer?[laughter]NASA.
ThisNewsweekcameoutacoupleofweeksback.Imsuremostofyoumayhaveseenit.Thisisashamefulissue.Thisisashamefularticle.InSearchofAliens,itsays,andthenitsays:NASAisouttherelooking.[laughter]
Now,whileIwasinSpain,theSpaniardsaskedmeYouknow,justasIwasgoingoverthere,wewerecelebrating40yearsofApollo11:Geethatwassomething,wasntit?WeputacoupleofguysontheMoon.Werepattingourselvesontheback,andweretootingourlittlehorns:Wasntthatgreat?Wasntthatcool?Werentwespecial?
AndIhadtosaytosomeofmySpanishfriendsoverthere:Youcould
nevertrustthisdamnbunchoveratNASA.TheydidgototheMoon,butthatwasonlyhalfthestory.Thestorywaswhattheyfoundwhentheygotthere,andthestorywaswhatthephotographshadtaken.
Now,youprobablyknowthis,butincaseyoudont,Illtellyouagain.NASAadmittedabouttwoyearsago,Ithinkabouttwoyearsback,thattheyhadinadvertentlyerased40rollsoffilmfromtheApolloprogram.ThatreleasewentoutoverthemediaandCongressdidntsayawordnopeep,nopoop,nothing.Themediaitself,theyreporteditandpffft!offintothewind.
NASAsays:Weinadvertently,mistakenlygee,weresorryweerased
40rollsoffilmfromtheApolloprogram.
Now,weretalkingabouthundreds,ifnotthousands,ofindividualphotographsinthose40rolls.Theyerasedthem.
Why?BecausetheyshowedwhattheyranintoontheMoon.TheyshowedwhattheyranintoonthewaytotheMoon.Theyshowedwhattheyranintowhentheygotthere.Thishasgottogo!Wecantletthatout!
ButsomenitwitinNASAhadforgottenthatNASAhadgivenacontracttotheJapaneseSpaceAgencybackinthe60s,probablyinvolvingbigbucks,wheretheJapanesesharpbunchofguysoverthereboughteverynegativeoreveryshotofeverypicturetakenbytheentire
ApolloprogramandtheyvegotitintheircomputersinJapan.
AndNASAevidentlyforgotthat.[laughter]
Now,listen,youhavetounderstandsomething.TherearedamnfineguysinNASA.Therearegoodscientists;therearesomefinepeopleworkingthere.Imnotputtingthemdown;ItakemyhatofftothemandIrespectthem.
TheonesthatImreallypissedoffataretheadministrators,the
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policymakers,thepoliticians.TheyforgotthattheyhadsoldallthistoJapan.
Loandbehold,ImataconferenceinTokyo.IwasaguestofJunichiYaoi,oneoftheforemostJapaneseresearchersandUFOexperts.IwasonnationaltelevisioninJapan.
WhileIwasthere,IwasprovidedsomephotographstakenbyNASAandtheApolloprogramthattheJapaneseSpaceAgencyhasbeensittingontopofforalong,longtime.AndImabouttoshowyouacouplerightnow.
[shouts/hoots/whistles/applause]
[readingtransparency]Okay,thisisnegativenine.ThisisApolloSystemsA-13,yeah,ApolloSystems13.BearwithmewhileIgetthisthingupthere.[positionstransparencyforoverheadviewing]
Okay.ThisphotographwastakenbyApollo13.Now,youmayrememberApollo13.ItwastheonethatnevermadeittotheMoon.Theyhadatinyexplosionontheway,whereanoxygentankblewupandtheywerebarelyabletogettotheMoon,goaround,andbarelyabletogethome.
Buttheywerenotaloneonthattrip.So,whiletheywereoutandaway,goingandcoming,theyhadlittlewindowsandtheysnappedpictures.
ThisisonepicturethatwasheldbytheJapaneseSpaceAgency.YoucanseetheJapanesewritinghere.
Anyhow,thisistheMoon,upperleft.Thesetwoobjectshere,BandC,arefairlylargecirculardisksofsomekind.ButoverhereAwhichismovingintothescenehereisthepositiveandhereisthenegative.Ihopeyoucanallseethat.
[pointing]Thisisacirculardiskwithadome.HerestheMoon,anotherdisk,butthisdudeiscomingintothepicture[A],andhereweare.Heresthephotoandheresthenegativedownhere.Thisobjectisfivemileslong.
So,youwonderwhyNASAiskeepingitsmouthshut?Howcantheytalkaboutsomethinglikethat?Howcantheyreleasesomethinglikethattoyou?AnobjectweencounteredonthewaytotheMoonthatsfivemileslong!
Now,justgivesomethought.Trytoconsideratechnology,aculture,acivilizationthatcannotonlybuildsomethinglikethat,putitin
space,putitinorbitaroundtheEarth,butstaffitandmanitwith...howmany?
Ihadthepleasureofbeingonacoupleofaircraftcarriers.MysonisacareerNavalofficer,spent14yearsonaircraftcarriers,Nimitz-class,atomic-poweredcarriers.
Forthoseofyouwhodontknow,theyareimpressive.Theyre1,000feetlong.Theyhaveacrewcomplementof5,000men!Thesebignuclear
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Nimitz-classcarriershave5,000guysintheircrew!Theyremassive.Theyregigantic.Theyreunbelievable.
Now,wewerejokingonedayaboutit,EricandImysonwhatkindofacrewwouldthisdudehavewith,youknow,fivemiles?Whataretheydoingoverthere?Whatistheirpastime?Whatistheirfunction?Whatistheirpurpose?
And,havingbeenonaNimitzcarrieracoupleoftimes,youknow,theyreveryimpressivesodafountains,snackbarsandalltherestofittomaketheguyscomfortableandall.IanticipatedIveassumedthataboardanobjectoutthere,fivemileslong,youdhavebowlingalleys,restaurants,theaters,[laughter]youknow,allkindsofentertainment.Becausewevelearnedovertheyearsthatifyoureanalienandyouareinvolvedinhumanbeings,youneedentertainment![laughter/applause]
So,theyprobablyhavesaunasaboard,youknow.Andprobablythemostfavoritepastime,Iwouldthink,iswatchinghumantelevision.Thinkforamoment,havingwatchedityourself,[laughter]andalltheidioticcrapthatgoes-ononTV,andimaginewhatabunchofguysfromanotherstarsystemarethinking.
Theyrerollingintheaisles,probably,laughingabouttheseunbelievablemonkeysdownthere.[laughter]TheyrewatchingourstoriesDancingwiththeStars?andtheyaresupposedtothinkofusasbeingintelligent,andadvanced,andsophisticated?Oh,my![sighs]
Okay.Thisisthefirstshot.[insertsnexttransparencyintoprojector]Hereisthesecondone.Thisisnegative10.
Now,thatbigdudehasmovedoverintothemiddleoftheframeandanotherobjecthasshowedupoverhere;wasestimatedatbeingtwomileslong,butthisone,fivemiles.Hereistheprintandhereis
thenegative.
Itsthesameobject,butitseemstohavemovedsomewhat.Werenotgettingafullside-viewlikewedidintheotherpicture,we'regettingitalittleelongated,andthereareacoupleofcirculardisk-likeobjectshere.
Apparentlyitslikeacarrier.Itputsitsaircraftoutandbringsthemback.Itsprobablyacarrierfordisks,aliendisksthatwefindinourskiesallthetime.
Butagain,whenyoustartconsideringthemagnitudeofthesizeandtheimplicationsofwhatitmeans,thenyoucanalmostsympathizewith
theauthoritiesabout:Wecanttellthosepeoplethesethings.No,no,no.Theyrenotreadyforit.
No,no,no,hell!Theywerentreadyforit!Theyretheonesthatwerescaredtodeath.Youguyscanprobablyhandleit,buttheycant?[applause]
[showsnextphoto]Ah!Thatwasonlythebeginningofthestory.OvertheyearsIvebeenfortunateinthatIhavebeenluckyinfinding
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smartpeopleinthemostunlikelyplaces.
ImspeakingataconferenceattheBayAreaanumberofyearsagoandalittledudeshowsupbythenameofNormanBergrun.NormanretiredfromNASAafteralmost30years.Hewasanengineerandaphotographicexpert,andheandanumberofotherswereresponsibleinputtingtogetherwhattheycalledtheVoyagerProgram.
Inthelate70s,astronomersandguysinNASAhaddiscoveredsomeanomalousthingshappeningintheringsofSaturn.
Ilovethatwordanomalous.Thingswerehappening,buttheydidntknowwhatthehelltheywere.Theydidntknowhowtoexplainit.So,whattheydid,theyputtogetheramultimilliondollarprogramcalledVoyager,andtheysentVoyagertotheringsofSaturnin1980.
WhenVoyagerOnegotintheringsofSaturn,itbegantakingpictures.ThepicturesweresentbacktoNASA,andtheywereastoundedliterallyastounded.Theygotstufftheydidntexpect.
Now,beforeIgointodetailaboutthesephotos,IwilltellyouthatNormanBergrun,alittledudeaboutfivefeettall,youknow,pink
cheeks,littlebowtie,brilliantashell.Lastyear,whenIsawhimattheBayArea,hewas87.
Ihavebeenunabletoreachhim.Ivetriedthroughthephones,mywifetriedwiththecomputercantreachNorman.IdontknowwhetherhespassedoverandgoneHome,orwhathappened.
AllIknowisthatlastyearintheBayArea,Iintroducedhimandtheymobbedhim.Thelittledudehadaboxofbooks,andafterIintroducedhimhegotmobbed,andhesoldeverybookhehadat$50bucksapop.
ButNormanwaswhatIsay:TherearesomegoodfolksinNASA,honest
menwhowouldliketotellyoueverythingtheyvelearnedandeverythingtheyknow.
So,anyhow,Norman:Afterfrustration,andtimepassed,in1986,NormandecidedtoblowthewhistleandpublishthephotographsthattheVoyagerOnetookintheringsofSaturn.
HecouldntgethisbookpublishedintheUnitedStates.Wonderwhy?!USpublisherswouldnttouchhim,wouldnteventalktohim.ThelittledudehadtogotoAberdeen,Scotland,togethisbookpublishedand[pointstooverheadphoto]thatsthecoverofhisbook.[Ed.note:titledRingmakersofSaturn]
Itmaybeavailable;youmaybecanfindacopyifyoutryhere,there,orwherever.Ihatetotellyouwhattheymightcostnow,becausetheyrerealcollectorsitems.
But,IwasdelightedthatIwasabletodiscoverhimandpresenthimtotheconferenceintheBayArealastyear.Theresponsefromtheaudiencewasoverwhelming.Hislittlefacelitupandhegavemeabig
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hug,tearsinhiseyes.ButhepublishedhisbookinAberdeen,Scotland,anditisadynamitebook.
[pointingtooverheadphoto]Now,onthecover,thisyouseehereontherightispartoftheBRingofSaturn.Youknow,thereareA,B,C,awholebunchofrings;gigantic.Saturnsagiantplanetandtheseringsareincredible.
Thisthinghere[indicatingclose-upoftheorangedotonthebookcover]:self-luminous,obviouslyartificialconstruction,obviouslyunderintelligentcontrol,becauseitmovesaroundintheringsofSaturn.Theydontknowwhatthehellitis,butitslargerthanourMoonanintelligent,constructed,artificialobjectlargerthanourMoonmovingaroundthroughouttheringsofSaturnwhereveritwillgo.
Wegetapictureofitandwedontknowwhattosay,wedontknowwhattodo,wedontknowhowtorespond.BiggerthanourMoon!Ah,thatsonlypartofthestory.
[changesphoto]Herewego.ThisisintheARingandthestatisticsonthiswillblowyourmind.Thisobjecthereisanartificially-constructed[artificialobject],asNormansays;NASA
calleditanelectromagneticvehicle.Thatdudeis2,000mileslong,over450milesindiameter.But2,000mileslong!
Andheresanotherself-luminousartificialobject[zoomsinonthelargedot;samephoto],aboutthesizeofourMoon,thatapparentlymoveshere,there,andeverywhere,whereveritwillgo,obviouslyunderintelligentcontrol.
But,considerthisthing.Considerthecivilization,thetechnology[and]theculturethatcannotonlybuildsomethinglikethat,butputitinspace,moveithereandthere,wherevertheywill,forwhateverpurpose.
Normansayshethoughttheyweremakingtherings,whichiswhyhetitledhisbookTheRingmakers.
Isaid:Norman,didyoueverstoptothinkthattheymightbeminingtherings?WeveconcludedfromseveralmissionsVoyagerOnewasonlythefirstofawholebunchofthemthattheringsaremadeupofmineralsfromperhapsGodknowshowmanyeonsbackwhentheplanetswerebeingformed.
AndIsaid:Stoptothinkaboutanadvancedtechnology.Theycouldminethoserings,andthosemineralsaregoldmines,youknow?Talk
aboutnutrients!Youvegotallthatgoodstuff.
Andhesays:Youknow,Ididntthinkaboutthat,thattheymightbeminingthem.
God,IwishIknewwhathappenedtoNorman.Ilosttrackofhim.But,hisbookisamonumenttothefactthattherearesomedecentmeninNASAwhowantthetruthtold.
Now,Iwanttoaskforashowofhands.Howmanyofyouare
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overwhelmedandshockedatthesefactsaboutthoseobjectsoutthere?Oh,afew!Overwhelmedandshocked!Well,thatsgood.Thatsgood.
IwasoverwhelmedandshockedthefirsttimeIsawitandthefirsttimeIbegantoputittogether,andconsideredwhatitmeant.Becausethereweregettingtotheimportantthinghere:Whatdoesthismean?
Now,Iassumemostofyouareawareandfamiliarwithabrillianteducator,aphysicistinNewYorkbythenameofMichioKaku,brilliantyoungman,aquantumphysicist,theoreticalphysicist.Michiohascomeupwithwhatheconsiderstobeapossibilityoffourdifferentkindsofadvancedcivilizations:TypeI,II,IIIandIV.
You,bytheway,aremembersoftheZero-ZeroTypecivilization.[laughter]Notthatyoudidntknowthat,butyouhaventquitereachedTypeIyet.
TheconclusionmanyofushavereachedisthatwerelookingattheresultsofatleastaTypeIIcivilization.[referringtothephotoagain]
Now,howdotheseguysouttherelookuponus?Really,howdoyouthinktheythinkofus?
IhaveaprettygoodideabecauseIvebeengettingsomelegitimateinformationfromAmericanmilitaryandscientificpeople,whohavenotonlymetsomeofthemfromoutthere,butareworkingalongsideoftheminUnitedStatesgovernmentnationallaboratorieslikeSandia,LosAlamos,BrookhavenNationalLaboratoryinLongIsland,whichisoneofthemostsuper-secretlaboratories.
Anyhow,wehavescientistsandmilitaryguysthathavebeenworkingalongsideofsomeofthosedudes,andtheyareinourmidst.
WhenIretired,weknewoffourdifferentgroups.Theywereall
humanoid,buttheywereallnotthekindofguyswhocouldwalkupanddownthestreetonaSaturdayafternoonwithoutbeingseenorrespondedto.
But,oneofthegroupsoffourlooksexactlylikeusinthesensethatitcouldbesittinghereinthisauditoriumnexttoyouandyouwouldntknowit;nexttoyouinanairplaneorarestaurantoratheater...
Theyreinourmidst,guys.Thisonegroup,particularly,isinourmidst,andapparentlysince1954,whenIkemetthematMurocAirForce
BaseinCalifornia;theyrebeenworkingwithus,tryingtohelpusmakethattransitionfromadolescenceintoadulthood.
Andwhyaretheydoingthat?Well,apparently,thisisthesamegroupthathadahandinengineeringourgenetics10,000,100,000yearsago.
Ifyouwantalittlehistoryonthatsubject,readZechariaSitchin,
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whichIsuspectmostofyouarefamiliarwith.Hisstoriesareshockinglyaccurateinthattheyliterallytelltheessentialstoryofourbeginnings.TheytranslatetheseancientcuneiformtabletsfromSumer.Zechariasnottheonlyone.TherewasabrilliantEnglishmanbythenameofChristianOBrien,whowentHomeayearorsoago.ChristianOBrienwroteabeautiful,unbelievableandpowerfulbookcalledTheGeniusoftheFew.Ifyoucaneverfindthatsomewhere,getacopy.
ChristianOBriensaidessentiallythesamethingZechariahassaid:Weweregeneticallyengineeredandtheyvebeencomingandgoing,andtheyvebeeninourmidstforahellofalongtime.
SomebodysaidtoSitchinonetime:Zecharia,whenaretheycomingback?Andhesaid:Whatevermadeyouthinktheyeverleft?
AndIdontthinktheydideverleave.
Now,again,thisis,Ithink,alittleshockinginformationhere.Atleastitshockedthehelloutofme.
Now,whenIwasinGermanyataconferencesomeyearsago,aRussian
cosmonautbythenameofMarinaPopovichhandedoutafewcopiestomeandtoMichaelHesemann,anotherresearcher,friendofmine,thattheSovietPhobosmissiontookonMarswhenitwasoutthere15,20yearsago.
TheSovietssentthisfantasticmissiontoMars.TheynameditPhobos2becausePhobos1isoneofthemoonsofMars,twelvemilesindiameter,sotheynamedtheirspacemissionPhobos2andtheytookawholebunchofpictures.[changesphoto]
Oneofthepicturestheytook,whichMichaelHesemannpublishedinhis
magazine,isapparentlyacitythesizeofChicagounderthesurfaceinMars,generatinganenormousamountofheat,becausethisphotowastakenintheinfrared.ItsinGermanatthebottomhere,butMichaelhadpublisheditinhismagazine.
FromPhobos2acityunderthesurfaceofMarsthesizeofChicago.Youcanseepracticallytheblocks,thestreets,andsoon.Soyes,Virginia,thereareMartians,and,yes,theyareonMars.Andsomeofthemareprobablyhere,becauseweapparentlydontlookthatdifferentfromeachother.
But,youllneverseethispublishedinanAmericannewspaperoran
Americanmagazine.IthadtobepublishedinGermanybyMichaelHesemann.
[nextphoto]Phobos2tookanotherpicturewhileitwasinorbitaroundMarsandthestoryIwastoldwasthattheyliterallyplannedtolandonPhobos,themoon.Well,theynevergotthere,becausewhiletheywereinorbitaroundMars,thisthingcameupfromthesurfaceofMarsgiganticinsizeandapparentlybumpedPhobos2toknockit
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outoforbitanddownitwent.
So,theressomebodyuptherewhosays:No,no,no!Youcancomeandpeek,butthenyoucantstayverylongandyourenotgoingtotakethatmanypictures.Werenotgoingtoallowit.
[sighs]Okay.Ithinkthatdoesmyphotographsforyouthisafternoon.[applause]
Now,asIsaidtoyou,Imtickedoff.IhavethisPissed-OffRoster,whichisaworkofjoyandpleasureforme.[laughter]AsIsaid,politiciansatthetop,particularlytheUnitedStatesCongress.Theyreabunchofclowns.Theyliterallyrunacircusbackthere.
Theologiansarerightnext,below.[audiencecomments]Forgiveme,Imnotanti-religious;Isimplydontlikereligionbecauseittendstodividepeople.Itseparatespeople.[applause]MyGodisbetterthanyourGod.Mybookisbetterthanyourbook.Mystoryistruerthanyourstory,andsoonandsoonandsoon.
So,Imnotreligiousatall.Ivestudiedthemall.IvestudiedHinduism,IvestudiedIslam[and]IvestudiedJudaism.
IwasraisedaChristian;IvestudiedChristianity.IconsidertheyoungmanfromGalileemybestfriend,butthatsanotherstorythatIdontthinkwehavetimeformetogetinto.Iwentthroughaseriesofhypnoticpast-liferegressionsanumberofyearsagoandoneofthelivesthatIdiscoveredwasinGalilee2,000yearsagowithHim.So,Isayhewasmybestfriendandhestillismybestfriend.
Anyhow,Imnotanti-religious.Irespectthepeople,whoaresincereandhonestaboutit,butitdoestendtoseparatepeopleitdividespeopleandItrytopromotetheconceptofaspiritualapproachtolife.[applause]
Ifyouhumanbeingshadtheslightestideaofwhatyouare!MyGod,youreincredible!Youare,allofyou,masterpieces.
YoureallyneedtoknowwhatYoganandasaid--youneedtoreachastateofself-realization;whenyourecognizethat,withinyouburnsasparkofpureDivinity,anditdontmatterwhatchurchyougoto,orwhatlanguageyouspeak,orwhatpoliticsyouare,orwhatcoloryourskinmightbe--thatdontmatter.
YouareDivinityinitself.YouarepartofthatInfiniteSpark,which
myfriendfromGalileesaid:ThekingdomofHeaveniswithinyou.
Thegangbacktheredidntreallygraspwhathewastalkingabout,buthistruthsandhiswordsareaslegitimatetodayastheyeverwere.Andyouguysaregettingthere;yourebeginningtopayattention,yourebeginningtowakeup.
Now,asIsaid,myPissedOffListgoesdown,youknow.WehadNASA,thepoliticians,thetheologians,andthentherestheAmericanmassofpeople:thepublic.Whatisittheyusedtocallit?Thegreat
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unwashed?Youknow,JoeSix-pack?
Listen,IhavetobekindwithJoe,becauseatthemoment,blesshisheart,hemayhavelosthisjob,hemaybelosinghishome,hecantpayhisbills,hesgotkidstosendthroughschoolandeducateandbuyclothesfor.So,ImtryingtobegentlewithJoeSix-pack,becausehescarryingaheavyloadrightnow.
Therearetensofthousandsofthemoutthere,alloverthecountry.Theremaybesomeofthemintheaudienceheretonightandyouprobablyknowafewofthem,andtheyredamn-finepeople.So,Imnottryingtofaultthemtoomuchthefactthattheyrenotpayingattention.
IgetalittletickedoffNASCAR!Basketball!Football!Tennis!Golf!MyGod,thesefixationswiththeselittleballs!Youknow?[laughter/applause]Freudwouldhaveaballwiththat,youknow,nopunintended.OldSigmundwouldhavearealfinetimeworkingthatout.
Okay,forgivemeforwandering.ItsimportantthatIgetsomeofthisstuff...
OneofthethingsthatIfaulttheaverageguyoutthereisforhis
attentionspan.HeseemstobesufferingthemassesofthemseemtobesufferingwhattheycallAttentionDeficitDisorder.Itsaproblemthekidsinschoolhave.Theycantseemtofocusonanythingmorethantwoorthreeminutesandthentheyrepfft--offsomewhereelse;pfft--offsomewhereelse.
Iblametelevisionforthat,aswellastheirparentsforallowingthemtodothat.Howmanyofthemsitdownandreadabookthesedays?
Anyhow,theirattentionspanisvery,verylimited.Thepublicatlargehasalimitedattentionspan.
Forexample,letmegetbackhere,gobackafewyears.[checkinghisnotes]Ah!WernhervonBraunsaidin1959nowgettheyear,59,fiveyearsafter54.
Now,whatthehellhappenedin54?Well,somethingunusualhappenedatMurocAirForceBaseinCaliforniain54,whereanagingPresidenthadanencounterthatliterallydamnnearkilledhim--becauserightafterthiseventin54atMuroc,thepoorolddudehadaheartattack.Hewasnotabletodealwiththisthing.[Ednote:MurocAFBhasbeenrenamedasEdwardsAFB.]
Anyhow,in1959,afamousNazibythenameofWernhervonBraun,who
literallybuiltourSaturnFiveprogramfromthegroundup,hadthistosay,andthisappearedinseveralUSnewspapersIkidyounot--thiswaspublishedinnewspapers.
Wernhersaidin59:Wefindourselvesfacedbypowerswhicharefarstrongerthanwehadhithertoassumedandwhosebaseisatpresentunknowntous.Icannotsaymoreatpresent.Wearenowengagedinenteringintoclosercontactwiththosepowers.
Now,wouldntyouhavethoughtthatWernherwouldhavebeenmobbed?
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Explainthis!Whatthehellareyoutalkingabout?Whoarethesepowersthatyourereferringto?Imean,youreoneofourtopscientists;yourebuildingtheApolloprogramforus.
Thisisin59!Nomajorresponse.Likewhhttt!itjustwentover.[makesgestureindicatingovereveryonesheads]
Ah,1980.AnotherGermanprofessorbythenameofHermannOberthsaidthis,andthiswasquotedandpublishedinseveralAmericannewspapers:Wecannottakethecreditforourrecordadvancementincertainscientificfieldsalone;wehavebeenhelpedbythepeoplesofotherworlds.
Now,didthiscausearipple?Didpeoplesay:Whatthehellareyoutalkingabout,professor?Peopleofotherworlds?What?Itcriesoutforanswersandtherewerentanyandnobodymadeadealoutofit.
Andthen,herewehavesomethingin1987aprominentAmericansenatorfromHawaii,DanielK.Inouye;UnitedStatesSenatorfromHawaii.HesaidthisinacommitteeanditsintheCongressionalRecord:ThereexistsashadowygovernmentwithitsownAirForce,itsownNavy,anditsownfund-raisingmechanism,andtheabilitytopursueitsownideasofthenationalinterest,freefromallchecks
andbalancesandfreefromthelawitself.AndthisisintheCongressionalRecord.
Didthatcausearesponse?Didpeoplemobthesenatorandsay:Senator,whatthehellareyoutalkingabout?Thisisdynamite.
AttentionDeficitDisorder!
AllenHyneksaidbeforehedied...AseriesofeventsoccurredinNewYorkalongtheHudsonRiversomeyearsago,calledtheHudsonRiverEvents,wheregigantictriangularandboomerang-shapedobjectsamile,andamile-and-a-halfacross,hoveredovertheHudsonRiver,moved
slowlyupanddowntheTaconicFreewaytherehundredsofpeoplegoingupanddown,guyspullingofftheroad,lookingupandseeingthisdamnthing.
Itwasgigantic.IthoveredovertheIndianPointnuclearreactorforanhour.Allthealarmswentoff,allofthesecuritypeoplerespondedtothisthingandittookplaceandnotonewordfromtheauthoritiesaboutthis,exceptsomestupid-assideaofabunchofguyswereflyinglittleplanesaroundatnightinformation.
TheFAA,toitseternalshame,saidthingslikethat:Oh,theseguys
wereflyingaroundintheirlittleairplanes,youknow,informationatnightnevermentioningthatthiswastotalviolationofFAAregulations.Asifthoselittleguysinlittleairplanescouldmatchsomethingthatsamile-and-a-halfacrossaboomerang,atriangle!
AttentionDeficitDisorder!Itgoesonandonandon.
WhereamIhere?[referringtohisnotes]AsIsay,Itendtowander.Forgiveme.Okay,Ivegivenyouyourlittleparable.ItalkedaboutDavidFroning.ItalkedaboutBenRich.IvequotedInouye,vonBraun,
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Oberth,theshadowgovernment.
Oh,Iwanttotouchupononelittleotherthinghere.Theresanamusingsituationthathastakenplace.IfinditamusingandIfindittragic.
TheresayoungBritbythenameofGaryMcKinnon.Manyofyouarefamiliarwiththisstory.Gary,itseems,isacomputernerd.Hesarealgenius.Hesahacker.
Well,GaryhappenedtobeabletohackintotheDefenseDepartmentcomputershereaboutayearago,alittleoverayearnow.HehackedintoNASAscomputersalittleoverayearago,andhecomeupwithsomestuffthatwasdynamite.
So,whathappenedisthatwefoundaboutitandwegotholdoftheBritsandwesaid:Wewantthatman.We'regoingtoputhimontrialandweregoingtostickhisassinjailfor70years.
And,sohelpmeGod,theBritishagreedtoextraditeyoungGaryMcKinnontotheUnitedStatesfortrialandsentencing.Now,IstandcurioustoseewhatkindofatrialtheyplantoputonforMcKinnon.Itsgottobeapublictrial.HesnotaUScitizen.Theyrecharginghimwithaviolationofourcomputersecuritysystemsandalltherest
ofit.
So,thiskidsbeingsentfromtheUKovertotheUnitedStatesandtheyregoingtoputhislittlebuttupinfrontofajudgeandajuryandchargehimwithdamagebybreakingintoourNASAandourDefenseDepartmentcomputers.
Iandothershavesaidtheyshouldhirethekid,forChristsake,andputhimtowork.[applause]Ifhecanhackintothosecomputers,hemustknowwhatthehellhesdoing.
Ah,butletmejusttouchlightlyuponwhatdidGaryMcKinnoncomeup
with?Ah...whatdidhedownloadwhenhehackedintothosecomputers?
Heapparentlydownloadedsomestuff,packagedupthematerial,andturneditovertoaBritishresearcherbythenameofTimothyGood.NowTim,formanyofyouwhoknowofhim,hesprobablyoneofthetopresearchersontheplanet.Hesabrilliantyoungman.Isayyounghesabouttheageofmyson,about57,maybecloseto60.
Anyhow,TimothyGood,apparently,wastherecipientofsomeofthisdownloadedmaterialfromMcKinnon.McKinnonsays:Igotsomedynamitehere,andhegaveittoTimothyGoodwiththeideathatmaybeTimothyeventuallycouldpublishit.Nowthequestionis,aretheygoingtotrytoextraditeTimothyGoodtotheUnitedStatesandputhisbuttin
frontofajuryandajudge?
Butwedontknow.TheBritsImetinBarcelonatoldmethatthisstoryisprettydefinite,prettytrue.
Ah,butwhatdidMcKinnondownload?Ah!Letmejusttouchuponacoupleofthingsorders,militaryorders,transferringaCommanderfromonevesseltoanothervessel.Now,thevesselswerenamedUSSSCurtisLemayandtheothervesselthatthisguytransferredto,this
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Commander,wastheUSSSRoscoeHillencotter.
Now,CurtisLemay,mostofyouarewellaware,deadnow,oneofourtopFour-StarAirForceGenerals,whobombedJapanbacktotheStoneAge,practically,becausehewasStrategicAirCommand.ThereisavesselnamedtheUSSSCurtisLemayandaCommandertransferredfromthattotheUSSSRoscoeHillencotter.
Now,RoscoeHillencotterisdeadnow,buthewasaFour-StarNavyAdmiralwhowasthefirstDirectorofCentralIntelligence.Now,theguys,theresearchers,havegonetotherecordsandthereaintnolistingofvesselswiththosenamesintheentireUSNavyManifest.
So,thequestionarises:MyGod,whereistheCurtisLemay?WhereistheHillencotter?Theinferenceweregettingisthat,apparently,theyreinorbitsomewhereoutthere.Andnowweretalkingaboutoneofthebiggestsecretsofalltimewhereyourmissingtrillionshaveprobablybeengoing.
Thereisaseparatespaceprogram,whichyouguysarepayingforandtheyrenottellingyouanythingaboutit,andasaresult,NASAisabitofajoke.WehaveaspecialspaceprogramanditisapparentlyknownastheUnitedStatesAerospaceCommandanditisajointservice
agency.ThatmeansitincludesNavy,Army,AirForce,MarineCorps,anditalsoincludestheBritishAerospaceCommand.
Theylaunchsatellitesfromseveraldifferentpositionsontheplanet.Theymaintain,apparently,anentirefleetofvesselsinorbit.Theyhaveanti-gravityandzero-pointenergy,whichyouguyshavearighttoandyouaintgoingtoseeforanothertenyears.
Now,thatswhereyourmissingtrillionshavegone.Youknowthestory:98,99,and2000,$1.7[trilliondollars]ayearforthreeyearsdisappearedoffthebooks.Thatbunchofclownsincongress;doyouthinktherewasanuproar?Doyouthinktherewasademandfor
answers?Wheredidthatmoneygo?Forgetit!
Now,thedaybefore9/11theSecretaryofDefensesays:Weremissingthreetrilliondollars.Wecantaccountforit.Itsoffthebooks,somehow.Wereworkingonit.Itmaybeanaccountingerror.[laughter]Youknowhowtheyare:Doublespeak.GeorgeOrwellwouldbehappywiththiscrowd.
Missingthreetrillion,afterthealreadymissingof$1.7[trillion]ayearforthreeyears?ThereiswherethefundingiscomingforyourAerospaceCommandthatDanielInouyeistalkingaboutaseparateshadowgovernmentthatyouhavenoideaexists.Andthoseguyshave
gotthetechnologythatBenRichsaysis100yearsbeyondestablishmentknowledge.
And,really,ifyoutalkaboutbeingpissed-off,thatkindofinformationdrivesmeupthewall.Isaytoyouguys--andIhopeyoureaspissed-offaboutitasIam--wevedamnwellgottogetsomeanswersfromtheseidiotsbackthere,orourcountryisgoneforeverandIdontwanttoseethathappen.
WhenIwentintothemilitary,IsignedanOathtodieforthat
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ConstitutionifIhadto,andIbelieveinthatConstitution.Itwasaworkofgenius,thebestformofgovernmentthatseverbeendevised.Theyretrashingitandwerenotstandingupanddefendingitenough.Werenotinsistingthattheyaccountforbeinginofficeanddrawingthosebigsalaries.
[sighs]Okay,guys,Ivecoveredawholelotofstuffhere.AsIsaid,Itendtowander.Iguessitsthenameofthegame.Imcomingtotheendofmypresentationhere.
AsIsaid,Ivebeenspeakingoutratherbluntlyandloudlyforanumberofyearsonthissubject.AsIsaid,itsthebiggeststoryinhumanhistorybecauseitISthestoryOFhumanhistory.Itsyourstory.Itswhoyouare,howyougottobehere,andwhereyouregoing.
AndItoldyouthatImoutragedatthedoom-sayers.Oh,God!2012,weredoomed.Itsallover!Theasteroids!Whatever.Apoleshift.Werealldoomed.
ThatMayanshamaninGermanyyearsagotoldme,hesaid:Youwhite-skins,youdoiteverytime,youscrewitallup.Hesaid:Thatsnotwhatthehellthestoryis.
Hesays:Imanexpertonmycalendar.Imanexpertonthehistoryofmypeopleandthatsnottheendofthedamnworlditsthebeginningofanewage.
Hesays:Welookforwardtoitwithanticipationandexcitement.Theoldworldiscomingtoacloseandanewwayofthinkingiscoming,anditsgoingtobesounlikeanythingthatseverexistedbefore,hesaid,wearesoexcitedaboutthefuture.
2012thatdaywillcomeandgo.It'llbetheendofourlongcount,butsowhat?WhatsimportantistheresaNewAgecoming.Andyouguysareallapartofit.
AndIsay,inclosing,thattherearegoingtobesomedifficulttimesaheadbecauseweareliterallyinthistransitionthatisatransformativetransformation,notonlyoftheplanet,butofthehumanspecies.Anditsprimarilyspiritualinitsnature.Thatisaveryhopefulthingtodiscussandunderstandandaccept.
AsIsaid,werephasingoutofaphaseofadolescence.Weregoingthroughadolescenceandweregoingtoreachadulthood.
Ifyouallremember,Imsureyoudo,adolescencewasnotahellofalotoffun.IfounditpainfulashellwhenIwasgoingthroughit,
andsodidmymotherandfatherwhileIwasgoingthroughit.But,weremakingthattransition,anditshopefulandfavorable.
IwanttoleaveyouwitharemarkortwothatIthinkisimportant.
ImagreatfanofLeoTolstoy;oneofmyfavoriteauthors.Hewasamystic,atremendous,greatwriter,philosopher.CountLeoTolstoysaid,andIquote:Thereissomethinginthehumanspiritthatwillsurviveandwillprevail.Thereisatinyandbrilliantlightburningintheheartof
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manthatwillnotgoout,nomatterhowdarktheworldbecomes.AndIwanttoleaveyoutonightwiththatcommentaboutthatsparkofDivinitythatburnsbrightlywithineachandeveryoneofyou.
Godblessyouandgoodnight.
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Thankyou![shakeshandswithBillRyan]Imfinished.
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