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UWS Law Students Association – helping careers. Prof Michael Adams Dean, School of Law UWS 2 nd WIL Symposium 1 st July 2014. A view of lawyers?. Introduction. 30 years since I graduated with LLB Professor since 2001 – a Dean since 2007 The world has changed! - PowerPoint PPT Presentation


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UWS Law Students Association helping careersProf Michael AdamsDean, School of LawUWS 2nd WIL Symposium1st July 20141Professor Michael Adams, UWS School of Law30/06/20141A view of lawyers?

2Introduction30 years since I graduated with LLBProfessor since 2001 a Dean since 2007The world has changed!Variety of careers with a law degreeRole of law students associationsUWS LSA contributes to the THREE Cs Competitions Communications Careers3

Why did I study law?When I was 14 years old I attended an arbitration conducted by my father in London very excitingI was a first in family to go to UniversityI did OK in my HSC (called A levels) but had too much fun as a paid DJ!But when I started to study law * I just loved it - especially one unit?

Legal educationLaw Schools grown from six to 36 ++Legal education controlled by admitting authorities (NSW LPAB Cth LACC)Priestley 11 subjects (basic academic contents)Centre for Legal Education research 50% expect to be admitted as lawyers 50% use thinking skills for other careersCouncil of Australian Law DeansAustralasian Law Teachers Association5AFR 4th April 2014 growth in law

6Largest Law Schools

7NSW Law students8

Employment opportunities

91010Can lawyers change the world?11 out of 29 Prime Ministers10 out of 45 NSW Premiers24% of Governor-Generals are lawyersMargaret ThatcherNelson MandelaMahatma GhandiJohn Cleese, Steve Vizard, Peter Garrett and most of the Chaser TV crew!Professor Michael Adams, UWS School of Law23rd April 200825th February 2008High School "Career in Law & How to Study Law" presentation10Prof Michael A. Adams with Boardroom Consulting Group25th February 2008Sunnyfield Board of Directors10

11Times have changed?Social justice @Importance focus of our Mission statementhttp://www.uws.edu.au/law/school_of_law/message_from_the_dean"Our mission is to be a law school which excels in education and research and values its students and staff. In the spirit of intellectual freedom we critically and ethically engage with the law and the issues of our time. We are actively committed to socially just and professional practice and we support and challenge our graduates to serve their communities with the same commitment".Concepts of pro bonoParramatta Community Justice ClinicIndigenous (ATSI) graduate attribute12

13UWS LSALaw student societies are a key part of all University law schoolsLaw Schools are self-defined and unlike most other schools/facultiesThe two previous student associations/clubs amalgamated with the single university in 2001


Objects of LSATo create opportunities and encourage students to make the most of these opportunities whilst at university so that they may become highly desirable candidates for employment post-graduation.To promote and raise the profile of the UWS School of Law and the University of Western Sydney generally, with the aim of increasing opportunities for graduates and maximising graduate outcomes.15UWS LSAHow does a disciplined club or society support career readiness of students? Providing the basis of the THREE Cs: Competitions Communications Careers16UWS LSAUWS LSA has its own website:17

UWS LSANote the logo..18

CompetitionsLaw students get involved in mootingLegal arguments advocacy LSA operates a Moot Club for all years LSA runs a few different competitionsFormal MootingClient interviewingWitness cross-examination

19CompetitionsLSA organised the grand finals to be held at the NSW Supreme Court Hon Justice Margaret Beazley AO Hon Justice Brian Sully QC (Adjunct Prof) Hon Justice Geoff Lindsay Hon Justice Michael Kirby AC (Adjunct Prof)Winners selected to be part of national competition run by Australian Law Students Association (ALSA)20UWS LSAOther mooting competitions UWSLSA gets involved with are: Shine Torts Moot; Michael Kirby Contract Law Moot; National Intervarsity Womens Mooting Tournament; Sir Harry Gibbs Constitutional Law Moot

21CommunicationsLSA plays an important role in communicating with law students and potential UWS students in a variety of ways UWS Open Day and UWS DayRun mini-moots as demonstrations of what it is like to be in law schoolUse a bail procedure in either the Campbelltown or Parramatta iMoot Court22

School of LawApps MootingThree minutes is half the normal billing time of a Law Firm (roughly $91.66 on the discounted $1100 per hour rate).

The Law School has really embraced Blended Learning as part of the Our Future program and had a focus on TWO specific projects which are shown in this slide:

You may think that Law as a discipline (Field of Research 1801 LAW) would be old school. But technology has played a major role (AustLII being a world leader).

Let me explain the TWO main projects

Project One: A new Referencing (citation) application for all iPhones/iPads etc to help Law students to get it right. Australian Law use a special system developed by the University of Melbourne called the Australian Guide to Legal Citation (normally AGLC) it is confusing. The system (a book of 150 pages) is freely online, but not as an app with examples. In the middle of the picture you can see my personal iPad using the app every example is a UWS law academic, where possible. This would not have been possible without Keith du Cros of ITS. It was quite a challenge for lots of reasons. We give it away to all law students and academics in Australia available from the Apple Store! Cost virtually free.

Project Two: The big Our Future project for Blended Learning was up-grading the two Moot Courts at Parramatta and Campbelltown to have the latest technology. Our brief to ITS (who found the $250,000 budget the original design was $450K thanks Sarah) was we want to do three things:

Digitally record legal debates (mock trials) called Moots for students; Our fortnightly research seminars to be easily transmitted between campuses and digitally recorded and displayed on screens locally; and Easily facilitate committee meetings (Research, Engagement, L&T and maybe staff meetings) video-audio conferencing between moot rooms at each campus.

The design had to be simple to use (hence the picture/graphic inter-face. Cameras that follow sound whoever talks gets recorded. Links to iPads (as soon as turned on, the screen comes up and so does the other campus).

All came into play on time (to show at Open Day on 1st Sept) and I believe on budget. We videoed How to use? and goes live in Summer School.23Parramatta??24


CommunicationsSocial events and facebook etc Law Cruise Casual BBQ events Law Orientations Camp before semester starts Law Ball26Communications27

Law Ball28

CareersLSA plays a very active role in getting law students ready for the work forceThe Law Career Fair (grown out of Business & Law Careers) had: Law firms Interview skills ATO Other employers29CareersCurriculum vitae preparation Summer clerkship preparationInterview skills and practice

LSA will organise law firms to attend on or off campus events30Careers31

LSA CareersBeing involved with LSA as an elected officer can give you and edge for employmentRoles include: LSA President, VP Treasury & Marketing; VP Careers & Education; VP Administration; Executive Secretary; General Manager In total 26 law students from first year to fifth year are elected onto the LSA

32CareersAs Head of School since 2007 and Dean of Law since 2012, I have consistently worked with all the LSA PresidentsDeveloped a trinity between the Law School the UWS Law Alumni chapter and the Law Students Association33LSA OfficersParticularly want to thank the current Law Students Association Executive:

2014 President Maria BadawiVP (General Manager) Mel PudigExecutive Secretary James Zhao

34Time for a Lawyer JokeYou're trapped in a room with a tiger, a rattlesnake and a lawyer. You have a gun with two bullets. What should you do?

Shoot the lawyer. Twice

35Professor Michael Adams, UWS School of Law23rd April 200825th February 2008High School "Career in Law & How to Study Law" presentation35Prof Michael A. Adams with Boardroom Consulting Group25th February 2008Sunnyfield Board of Directors35Conclusion & questionsDisciplined based clubs help with career readinessBoth directly and indirectly through professionalism & expectationsOpportunities in a very competitive environmentMichael.Adams@uws.edu.au36