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    ProjectCamelot|DavidWilcocktranscript-Part2VIDEOINTERVIEWSVIDEOINTERVIEWSSPECIALREPORTSSPECIALREPORTSAUDIOINTERVIEWSAUDIOINTERVIEWSTheBarcelonaConferenceTheBarcelonaConferenceTheBrusselsConferenceTheBrusselsConferenceTheLosAngelesConferenceTheLosAngelesConferenceTheZurichConferenceTheZurichConferenceCamelotLiveatVilcabambaCamelotLiveatVilcabambaAaronMcCollumAaronMcCollumNEW:THEANGLO-SAXONMISSIONNEW:THEANGLO-SAXONMISSIONBenjaminFulfordBenjaminFulfordDrBillDeagleDrBillDeagleBillHamiltonBillHamiltonBillHoldenBillHoldenBillRyanandKerryCassidyBillRyanandKerryCassidyBobDeanBobDeanBoriskaBoriskaDrBrianO'LearyDrBrianO'LearySgt.CliffordStoneSgt.CliffordStoneDanBurischDanBurischDanShermanDanShermanDaneTopsDaneTopsDavidCorsoDavidCorsoDavidIckeDavidIckeDavidWilcockDavidWilcockDuncanO'FinioanDuncanO'FinioanElizabethNelsonElizabethNelsonErichvonDnikenErichvonDnikenGaryMcKinnonGaryMcKinnonGeorgeGreenGeorgeGreenGordonNovelGordonNovel'HenryDeacon''HenryDeacon'JaneBrgermeisterJaneBrgermeisterJamesfromWingmakersJamesfromWingmakersJimHumbleJimHumbleJimMarrsJimMarrsJimSparksJimSparksJohnLearJohnLearJohnRobieJohnRobieJosephFarrellJosephFarrellKlausDonaKlausDonaLeoZagamiLeoZagamiDrLenHorowitzDrLenHorowitzLuca

    ScantamburloLucaScantamburloMarciaSchaferMarciaSchaferMiriamDelicadoMiriamDelicado'Mr.X',theUFOarchivist'Mr.X',theUFOarchivistPatrickGerylPatrickGerylPeterLevendaPeterLevendaDrPetePetersonDrPetePetersonDrPaulLaVioletteDrPaulLaVioletteRalphRingRalphRingRicardoSilvaRicardoSilvaRichardHoaglandRichardHoaglandDrStevenGreerDrStevenGreerTheCrystalSkullTheCrystalSkullTonyDoddTonyDoddWadeFrazierWadeFrazierDavidWilcock:Interviewtranscript-Part2

    _____________________________TheRoadtoAscension:DavidWilcock-Part2AvideointerviewwithDavidWilcockLosAngeles,May/June2007

    Shot,editedanddirectedbyKerryLynnCassidy(continuedfromPart1)(continuedinPart3andPart4)

    Startofinterview

    InthehistoryoftheLawofOneseries,theLawofOnewaschanneledbythreepeople:DonElkins,CarlaRueckertandJimMcCarty.Twentyyearsofresearchandchannelingwentintothisbeforetheydidit.DonElkinswasoriginallypartoftheElkinsMantelflyingschool,adifferentElkinsthanhim,hewasjustastudentthere.MantelisthefamouscrashinwhichtheguytriedtofollowaUFOinhisairplane,andgotintothefield

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    comingoffofit,anditshotalltheseholesthroughtheship.Soitwaslikeagravityfieldaroundtheairplanecrash,andyouhadtokindoflean,whenyouwentnearit,andyoucouldn'tstandupstraight,kindofliketheSantaCruzmysteryspot,whichIvisited,ortheOregonVortex.Well,thebodywasinahorrificstate,andtherewereporesshotthroughtheplaneeverywhere.SothisispartofwhatgotourgovernmentguysthinkingthattheUFOscouldbehostileintheirintent.Butyou'vegottoremember,now,we'vegrownupinasociety,eversincethelate40's,early50's,inwhichwehavemutuallyassureddestruction,nuclearmissilesaimedateachother.Thereisnoway...Imean,whatdoeswinninganuclearwarmean?Howdoyouwinanuclearwar?The'WarGames'moviedidareallygreatjobatmakingusclearaboutthat.Now,atlotofthesewitnessesattheDisclosureProjectaresayingtheysawtheseUFOshoveringovernuclearmissilesilosandtheywouldpowerdownthewholesilo,andthemissileswerenotlaunchcapable.Infact,therewereothercaseswheretheyweredoingamissiletest,andit'sflyingthroughtheair,andthisorbwouldappearandstartshootingbeamsatitanditwouldclunkdown,anditwouldbecompletelyradioactivelyinert,andtherewasnoradioactivityleft.Itcouldnotevendetonateifyouwanteditto.Thisisjustthebeginningofwherewestarttounderstandthattherehasbeena

    lotofnegativepropagandainfilms,tellingyouthatextra-terrestrialsareevil.ThereisabattlegoingonbetweengoodguysandbadguysbecausetherearealotofdifferentETsoutthere,therearealotofcivilizationsvisitingtheearth.Darwinianevolutionisnotaviablemodel.TheLawofOneseriesteachesusthatthegalacticcreatortheycall'theLogos'createdabodythatitthenwritesintotheenergyaroundus.Sowhatthatmeansisthehumanbodyshowsuponeveryplanetinthegalaxywherelifecanform;itisanaturalevolution.Somemightgettherebyinsects,somemightgettherebylizards,somemightgettherebymammals,likewedo;somemightgettherebycetaceansSomemightgetthereevenbyvegetation,apparently.

    Thisverycrazyideathattreescoulddetachandwalkaround,Irealizewouldprobablyberidiculoustomostpeople.Butifyoustartgettingintotheideathatlifeisafield,itexplainsalotofverystrangethings.Forexample,researchhasbeenconsistencydoneonafruitflyknownasDrosophila,inwhichtheyalteredtheDNAsothattheeyesdon'tform;it'samutantwithouteyes.Nomatterwhattheyhavedoneever,tomesswiththeDrosophilusDNA,afterfivegenerationstheeyescomeback.Thereisanotherplantthathasbeenusedinlaboratorystudiesfor25years,theymesswiththeplantandnomatterwhattheydotomesswiththeDNAtomakeitalterandmutate,25%ofthetimethoseplantsfixtheirDNA.Thatmeansthiswholeideaofterminatorseedsandgeneticallymodifiedcropswillneverreally

    happen,becausenaturecanre-writeitself,andfixtheerrorsintheDNA.ButitgoesalotmorethanthatwhenyouhaveDanBurisch,(whomyouguyshaveinterviewed)he'stalkingabouthisLotusprojectinwhichyouhaveacrystalofsiliconebasicallylikequartz,andyoujustputitindistilledwaterpurifiedandrunthewholethinginanautoclave,thereisnowaythattherewouldbecontaminationinit.Hititwithalittleboltofelectricity,andthingsstartgrowinginthewater!Well,thishasbeendonesincethelastcentury,inthe19thcentury.

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    SirWilliamCrookesisoneoftheguyswhodidthis.Hetookavolcanicrock,electrifiedit,putsomedropsofwateronit,andtheselittlemitesgrewoutofthismurk,andtheygrewlegsanddetachedandstartedwalkingaround.Thereareotherresearchers,mostlyfromtheReichcamp;WilhelmReichwiththeorgonestuff...Wrightwasdemonstratingthisoverandoveragaininthelaboratory.Nowhisresearchisn'tcriticized,hecallsthembions-corpusclesofenergythatformlivingthings.Butit'ssincebeendoneunderextremelypowerfullaboratoryconditions.Furthermore,Dr.FrancisCrick,whowasoneoftheco-discoverersoftheDNAmolecule,showedthatthedustinthegalaxy,whenyoutakealineofsightfromwherewearetothecenterofthegalaxy,99.9%ofthatdustinthegalaxyhasallthespectrographicsignatures,allthelightwavesthatyouexpecttoseefromlivingbacteria.Sopanspermia,theideathatlifewasseededontheearth,it'smorethanthat.Lifeisthefield,theenergythatisaroundus,thatunderliesmatter.Notelectromagneticenergy,there'sadeeperenergycalledtorsionfields.Thatistheenergyofconsciousness;itistheenergythatallowsmetobepsychicsoIcanthinkwhatsomebodyelseisthinkingafterhisthoughtscomeintomymind;itistheenergyofsource,itistheenergyoftime.Timeisactuallynotaninvariant.Timeislocallyvariable,andthat'soneofthereallyfascinatingthingsyoustartlearning.Now,asItoldyouguys,I'vemetwithavarietyofBlackOpsscientists,andoneofthethingsthattheykeepsayingagainandagainisthattimecanbe

    alteredbyelectromagneticmeans,averystrongelectromagneticcoil,andthisgetsbackintothePhiladelphiaExperiment.SoIguessthisisthetimewhereyouguyswantedmetogetintotheDanielstory.Kerry:Certainly,Daniel'saninterestingplacetostart.YoudidsaythatDanielhas...insomewaysyougotintouchwithusbecauseyousaidthatourHenryDeacon,alotofwhathehascomeupwithhasbeenverifiedbyyourrelationshipwithDaniel.MaybeI'mnotputtingitintherightwords.David:No.WhatdoIdowhenIhavebeengivenaccessbyextreme,wonderfulsynchronicitytoconnectwithsomebodywhoisintheBlackOps,blackoperations,meaningoffthegovernmentradarofofficial,congressionalinquiryintohowthefundingisbeingallocated.Igetthisguy.Hetellsmestuffthatnobodyelsehaseversaidinanypublicforum.IgotothiswebsitecalledProjectCamelot,andyouguyshavethesame

    data!Ijustaboutlostit!Isaid:Maybeit'strue.Imean,Iknewitwastruebecausewhenyouspendenoughtimewithsomebody,whichIdid,withthisguyDaniel,youknowwhensomebodyistellingthetruth.Ifsomebodyisgoingtotrytoattackmeandsaywell,youknow,hewastellingabigstory,it'slike,I'msorry:Iinterrogatedthisguysomanydifferentways.Ihaveallthesciencethatbuildsuptothethingsthathesaid,allbeinplace.I'mnowouthereinHollywood.I'mworkingonafilmcalledConvergence,theMovie.I'vegottenintothewholesystemofHollywood,andI'veputtogetheraseriesofdata,whichwearegoingtomakeintoamoviecalled'Convergence',asIsaid.Thisreallyiswheremyinterestis,morethanintryingtosay,"I'mEdgar

    Cayce".Thebookcameoutyearsago.Ihaven'treallydonethatmuchtopromoteit.Idon'ttalkaboutitontheradio.I'vegaveyouguysthestory.ButwhatI'mreallyfascinatedwithisthescienceofconsciousness,andsowe'redoingawholefilmaboutthis.SoIhaveallthesciencenowtogetfromthemainstreammodel,totheseveryexoticthingsthatareintheBlackOpscommunity.TheLawofOneseries,whichstartedwithchannelinginthe50'sandwentallthewayforwardfromthere,issortoflikethebasethateverythinghascomefromandeverythingthatIfindkeepstyingbackintothis,includingtheDan

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    Burischtestimony,includingmanyothertestimonies;someofthethingsthatDeaconsaid-everythingwasinthisbookfrom1981,sothattellsmethereissometruthinthere,plusthefactthatIhavepersonalexperiencewiththissourceanditmadetwohousecallstothatwomanwherethelightcameinherwindowandthentomybrotherinhisbedroom.SogettingbacktothisDanielsituation,Ihadtheopportunitytomeetthisguy.IhadflowntoNewYork.I'dgottenofftheplane.Iwasgoingtovisitmymother.Itwaswintertimeandwedidn'thavetransportationtogetmedown.Itwasliketherewasastorm.Therewasiceallovertheroads,soIhadtostayinahotelthatnight.IneededtoeatsomethingsoIgotinthetaxiandIwenttotheDenny's;anditjustsohappenedbeforeIleftthatthisbookhadgottenmyattentionagain,TheMontaukProject.NowIreadthisbookinthe90'sbeforeIeverfoundtheLawofone,andIthoughtitwascompletelyhorsepucky,Ijusthadnointerestinit.ButIjustsaidletmebringitalongasreadingmaterial,soIhaditwithme.I'minthisDenny'slateatnightandthisguywalkspastandhekindoflookslikeaHarleyguy,likeabiker,youknowinhisleatherjacketkindofthingandhesays,"whatyouthinkaboutthatMontaukProject?"Isaid:"Oh,it'sridiculous.Thisisajoke.I'mjustreadingthisforentertainment".Hesaid:"CouldItalktoyouaboutsomething?""Okay".Sohesitsdownandhesays,IworkedatMontauk.Iliterallylaughedinhisface.Isaid,"You'vegottobekiddingme."Tomakealongstoryshort,hegivesmethisenormousdownload.I'mscribbling

    stuffonthebackofanapkinandthebackoftheplacethingthattheygiveyouatDenny'sandwemadeacontactandI'vehadnumerousopportunitiestoconnectwithhimsincethattime.Ican'tgetintoalotofdetail.Hedoesnotwanttocomeforward;heisterrifiedofpublicity.Hehasbeenwillingtodosomeaudioworksohecangethistestimonyrecordedonaudio,butI'mgoingtohavetogarblehisvoice.So,here'sthedeal.Now,firstofall,let'snotforget.IfevenoneUFOsightingisreal,meaningnotswampgas,thenwe'renotaloneandthereareUFOs.Assoonasyouacceptthat,youhavetoalsoacceptthefactthattheycanmaterializeandde-materialize.Sotheyarewinkinginandoutofourrealitysomehow.Well,howwouldtheydothat?

    Apparently,theanswerisintheseat.YouhaveaseatintheUFOanditplugsintoyourmindandyouthink,"Iwanttogotoaparticularplace."Youvisualizewherethatplaceis.Thisvortexopensupinfrontofyourship.Yourshipfliesthroughthevortex.Thevortexclosesbehindyouandyouendupgoingwhereyouneedtogo.Sowhathappensifadisccrashes,andourgovernmentguyspopsaseatoutoftheUFOandstarttinkeringwithit?Andthenwhathappensiftheygethealthproblems?AparticulargroupofextraterrestrialsfromSirius,apparently,andtheETsaretellingthem,"designthiscoilandbuilditthiswayandbuiltabigoctahedron,liketwoEgyptianpyramidstoptobottom,andthat'syourmainantenna."

    So,tomakealongstoryshort,ittookanumberofyears,buttherewasaseriesofprogressivestepsthatledtotheabilitytobringthischaironline,sothatitwasfullyfunctionalinitsintendedpurpose.Thechairhad,thisisallstuff...nowDanielgothiredinatthisjob.HewasanAirForcecaptain,andhewasgivenasentrypositionatthisplace,kindoflikeaguard;buthealsohadavarietyoftasksthatweretobeperformed.Hedidnotknowwhatwasgoingon.Sowhathappenedintheearlydayswas,hewasinthecafeteria,eatinghislunchorwhatever,andyou'dseeoverinthecorneroftheroomthatitwould

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    starttoburblelikeamirage,andyouwouldseesomethingthatshouldn'tbethere.Likeyoumightseethroughthewallintotheotherroom,oryoumightseeafieldwithgreengrassorsomething,andsometimesitwouldbeupneartheceilingandsometimesitwouldbeinthefloor.Soitturnsoutthateverybodytalkedtothejanitor.Thejanitorhadsomehowgainedeverybody'sconfidence,sotheystartedhavingthesemeetingswiththejanitor.Thejanitorstartedtellingthemwhatwasgoingon.Nowgraduallyovertime,heapparentlywasindoctrinatedandgotfullyknowledgeableaboutwhatwasgoingon.ThiswasanabandonedmilitarybaseatthefaroutpointofLongIslandcalledMontauk.HedidsaythatthefirstbookintheMontaukProjectserieswasauthentic,andthatprettymucheverythinginthebookistrue.Hethenwentontosaythateverybooksincethenhasbeenincreasinglydistortedandnottruthful.HeknewAlBielek.HeknewPrestonNichols.HeknewDuncanCameron.HeknewStuartSwerdlow,alltheseguyswerethere.Duncanranthechairthebest,Duncanwastheguythatcouldrunthechair.Hehadsomeexperienceworkingwiththechair.Hesaidthattheyoriginallytriedtobuildonereverseengineeredandthatdidn'twork.Theyeventuallyhadtogobacktotheoriginaldesign,usetheactualrealchair,notonethathadbeenrebuilt.TherewassomethingabouttheseHelmholtzcoilsthathadtobealtered.So,basicallywhathappensis,youareinthechair.Thereare22,Ithinkhesaid22,wavelengthsthatthechaircreatesthatarelikeyourmindwaves,yourbrainwaves,andfromthese22wavelengths,allotherwavescomefromyour

    mind.Sowhenyousitinthechair,theywouldhaveyougointowhattheycallthequietpoint,andthisisapointwhereyourmindisperfectlystill.Nownormallyifyougointhechairifyourmindisn'tquiet,thewavesaregoingtobefluctuatingallthetime.Ifyougoquiet,thenthewaveswillsortofstopandgotoafixedpoint,likethis.(gesticulates)Well,outofthe22,ifyouhaveawavethatlookslikethis,theideaistogetittogoflat.Theywouldzerooutthechair,22knobs,22wavesandflattenoutallthegraphs.DuncanCameron,apparently,wastheonlypersonwhocouldgeteverythingperfectlyzeroedout,perfectlystable.Therewasanextremely,extremely,enormouspowersupplythatwasrequiredtorunthischair.Itwasanon-standardfrequency.Itwasnotalternatingcurrent,

    120hertz;itwassomeweirddecimalpointnumberofhertzthattheyhadtorunthroughthechair.Butwhatwouldhappenisthatconsciousnesswouldcreatematter.Theyfoundthatyoucouldthinkaboutanobject,likelet'ssayyouthoughtaboutaparticularwoodenchairandyouvisualizethechair,thechairwouldstartformingintheroom.Firstmaybeveryshimmeryandsortoflikeyoucouldn'tevenseeitanditwouldhardenup.Dependingonhowmuchthoughtenergyyouwouldputintoit,itwouldstaysolidforaperiodoftimeandthenitwoulddissipateandsortofdisappearbackintothebackground.Thentheystartedtofindoutthatifyouthoughtaboutaparticularplacethattherewouldbeanopeningthatwouldappearandyouwouldgotothatplace.Youcouldsendsomebodythroughitandthentheycouldwalkaroundinthereforawhileandotherpeoplecouldseethem.Itwasliketheywerethereandthenyou

    wouldhavetohavethepersoninthechairphysicallypullthemoutwithconsciousintenttogetthembackout.Nowtheydiddoalotofexperimentation.Theysentinnocentpeoplethrough,andtheywerekilled.Someofthesewerestreettramps;someofthesewerehomelesskids.Apparently,Swerdlowwasresponsibleforrecruitingalotofthekids.Ibelieveit'spossiblepeoplecanchange;Danieldoesn't.HetalkedaboutAlBielekHesaidBielekwasabigstoryteller,alwayshadsomefunnythinggoing

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    on.Danielclaimshe,himself,neverwentthroughthevortex.Atsomepointtheyrealizedthattheyhadgonetoaplacethatwasnotthepresent,thattheyhadtraveledthroughtime.Theygotveryexcitedaboutthis.Nowthisiswhereitgetsreallystrange.Itjustgetsstrangerandstranger.Supposedly,wehaveabodythattheycallthetransientbody,andthenwehaveaphysicalbody.Thetransientbodyiswhatnew-agerswouldcalltheastralbody.Atthepointthatyou'refirstconceived,it'scalledyourzerotimereference(ZTR),thatmomentiswhereyouhavecontactwiththisplacecalledzerotime.Nowthephysicsmodelgoeslikethis.Ifyoucanimaginespace/timelikeasheet,everythingabovethesheetistheworldthatweinhabit,therealitythatweinhabit.Everythingbelowthesheetisthisthreedimensionalrealitythat'skindoflikewhereanti-matteris.It'sliketheastralplane,amirrorimageofwherewearenow.Asyouacceleratethoughspaceyoustartcurvingspace,andeventuallyitcurvesaroundinonitselflikeadonutandthat'satorus,it'scalledatorus.Ifyoukeepongoing,thetorusunrolls.NowbecauseofwhatI'vetoldyouwiththissheetthing,yougottimeinhere,spaceinhere.(Timebelowthesheet,spaceabove)Timeisthree-dimensionaldownthere,Spaceisthreedimensionaluphere.Asthesheetcurlsinyougettimeontheinsideofthedonut,butthenasyoukeepgoing,thedonutunrolls

    intheotherdirectionandthetimethatwasdownhereunrollsandbecomesyourspace.Soyou'renowinathree-dimensionalworld,youcanwalkaroundin,youcaninhabit,butit'soutofphasewithourrealityandpeopleinthisrealitywouldn'tseeyou,you'ddisappear.SothisisapparentlywhatwasdoneinadvertentlywiththePhiladelphiaExperiment.ThePhiladelphiaExperimentstartedwithteststhatweredoneonvery,veryhighintensitywelding,arcweldingofnavelvessels,andtheyhadtheseenormouspiecesofsteelthattheyareweldingtogether.Theyblastitwithelectricalenergyataveryhighfrequencyandtheystartedtonoticethetoolswoulddisappearafterthis.Theycouldn'tfindthem.Theyfinallyfilmeditandtheyfoundthatwhentheyblastedthisarcweldingthing,thattherewouldbethisbigblackholethatwouldappearintheroom,

    andtheydiscoveredthat,infact,itwasde-materializingobjectsandthattheywouldn'tcomeback.Sothisiswhatledthemtodoincreasingamountsofresearch,discoveringthatelectricalenergyisonewaythatyoucanpopthisholebetweenspace/timeandtime/space,andgetthroughtothisrealmdownhere.Well,theytriedtosendashipofsailorsthrough.andunfortunatelytherewasaninconsistencyinthehull.Theship'shullwaskindofusedasanantennatoallowthisenergytoformaroundtheshipproperly.Theyputcoilsontheshipandtherewerecoilsoffshore.Theship,apparently,gotcaughtupinthisenergyflow.ItmanifestedupinPhiladelphia,hencethePhiladelphiaExperiment,(itwasoriginallytheNorfolkNavalShipyard)andthenitpoppedbacktotheshipyard.

    Someofthesailorswereactuallyimbeddedinthehull.Someofthemburstintoflames,someofthemwouldappearanddisappearbecausetheywerehere,butifyougetenergeticallytunedtothis,thenyoucanflip-flopbetweenthetwohalvesofthetorus,sotospeak,andthematterintheirbodieswoulddothat.So,inthe1920's,TeslabuiltsomethingthatwouldstabilizeyourZTR.It'scalledaZeroTimeReference,andletmeexplainwhatthatmeans.Hereisspace/time,hereistime/space,andinthemiddleiszerotime.You'renotinspace,you'renotintime.Whenyougothereapparentlyitlookskindofgray.Inzerotimeweallhaveapointatwhichwewereconceived,wherethetransient

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    bodyorthespiritualbody,andthephysicalbodyjoin.Aswegetolderthereislikeawideningconebetweenthephysicalandthemetaphysicalself.Thatformsyourbiologicalage.IfyoumesswiththeZTR,it'slikeyoupushthetopover,butthebottomisstillwhereitis,thisgapcreatesgreatstaticwhichinsomecasescausesyoutoburstintoflamesandothercasescausesyoutogocomatose.Sometimesyoursenseoftimegetsreallyscrewedup.Forexample,withsomeoftheseguysyou'dhavetorubtheirskinfordaysatatime,theexposedflesh,theywouldjustbe...paused,becauseintheirtimeonlyafewsecondshavegonebyinwhatamountstoyearsoftimeforus,ormaybeweeksoftime.Sobyrubbingthem,youcouldeventuallygetthemtoslowdownandrejointheirtimereferencewithwhereweare.NowoneofthethingsDanieltoldmewasthatsomepeoplewereabletopsychicallyreconstructtheshipfrommemory.Theyrememberedthattheywereonaship.Theyrememberedwheretheshipwas,wherethefloorwas,wherethewallswere.Theyweretheoneswhocameoutokay.Sothatwaspartoftheresearch.Nowsincethattime,thePhiladelphiaExperimentwasnotdropped,ithassincebeenparlayedintotechnologies,includingjump-gatetechnology,asIhaveheardithasbeencalled,inwhichtheynowcanwarpyoufromoneplacetoanother.Thereisapparently,asyouguysdisclosedwithDeacon,astablejumpgate

    betweenEarthandMars...aninhabitedbaseonMars,Iheardthattoo.DanielalsocameacrossthefactthatMarshadbeeninhabitedinancienthistory,andthattherewereartifactsallovertheplace.Healsosaidhesawaphotographofastronautswavingnexttoapyramid,inbasicNASAspacesuits.Soit'snoteasywhenpeoplerealizethatyouhavebeenliedto,andthatthereisalotyoudon'tknow,butthatit'stherealityofwhat'shappened.SotheygotachairfromtheUFOandtheystartedusingthesesameprinciples,andtookitfurther.Now,oneguywasactuallycrazyenoughtogobackintime,andhekilledhisfather,becausehewantedtoseewhatwouldhappen,Iguess.Youknow,therearesomenastyguysworkinginBlackOpsanditwasalsoasuicidemove,youwouldthink.

    Well,hefeltgreat.Imean,hewentandhekilledhisfather,whichapparentlyresolvedalotofangerissuesforhim,andhecameback,"I'mfine,everything'sfine."Thenextday,oracoupleofdayslater,hesteppedoutintraffic,gothitbyacarandwasinstantlykilled.Sofromthattheycametotheconclusionthattimeislikealivingfabricthatrepairsthetearsthataremade;repairstheripsthataremadeasmuchasitcan.ThemostinterestingthingthatDanielevertoldmewas,ofcourse,well,firstofallbeforewegettothat,yourZTRdeterminesyourabsolutebiologicalage.Soapparently,ifyoutravelintothefutureandyourZTRsaysthatyouwerebornin1956,let'ssay,Youtravelintothefuturetenyears,fifteenyearsdowntheroad,inamatterofacoupleofhours,yourbodybecomestenorfifteenyearsolder.Whenyoutravelbackintime,yourevertbacktotheage

    youwerewhenyouleft,inarelativelyshortperiodoftime.Now,thisisveryanomalous,andsuggestsaverymulti-dimensionalcomponenttothebiologicalaging.SotheyhadtofindawaytoshifttheZTRinordertosendsomebodythrough,andDanielbelievestheyhad,buthedidnothaveaccesstothatinformation.Theyweretakingwavelengthsofthepsychic'smind,analyzingthemandtryingtofigureoutawaytomechanicallygeneratethem,sothattheywouldn'tneedthepsychic.Theywereusingavarietyofpsychics,butDuncanCameronhappenedtobetheonewhohadthemostsuccess.

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    Sotheysentpeoplethroughtime,therewasatwenty-yearwavethatcameoutwhichapparentlywasanaturalharmonicoftheEarthinitsrotation,andyoucouldplotonthewaveverypreciselywhattimesomebodywasinbyhowfarthewavewent.Ifthewavewenttohereandthenstopped,theycouldcalculate,ok,that's1996,January15th,orwhatever.Thewavekeepsgoing,andthisiswhatreallydrovetheseguyscrazy;isthattherewasacertainpoint,(theyweresendingpeopleintothefuture)therewasacertainpointonthattwenty-yearwaveasthey'retravelingalongthroughatimetunnel,atwhichallthewaves,ahundred-somepluswavesfromthechair,andthatwasjustthenumberthattheyhadanalyzed,therewerehundredsmorethattheyweren'tevenlookingat;theamountofcablescomingoutofthechairwasinthistwoinchbythreeinchboxcomingout,ahugeamountofdata.Allthegraphswouldgoflat-line,foraboutfiveorsixsecondsandthencomebackonline;butduringthattime,youcouldn'tseeanything.Thegraphsweregone.Well,thentheyaskedthepeople,whathappenedtoyouduringthistime;andtheysaid,"It'sthemostfantasticthingI'veeverexperiencedinmywholelife!Itwaslike,I'monewiththegalaxy!Icouldbeastar,Icouldbeaplanet.Icouldzoominontheplanet.Ihadaccesstoallknowledgethereeverwastoknow!Icouldbeasub-atomicparticle.Icouldbeanatom,amolecule.Icouldflyanywhere,doanything,knowanything,beanything!Itseemslikethere

    isnotime,itjustgoesoneternally.Absoluteecstasy!ItwasthemostwonderfulthingIhaveeverexperiencedinmywholelife,andIdonotwanttoleave."Whenyoufirsthitit,it'slikehittingareallyintensebump.Likeslammingintosomething,sotheycallitthe'bump',orthediscontinuity.Theexperienceofgoingoutoftherealityyouknow,theycallit'thefullout',thatyouwouldhavethisfulloutexperience.Sothen,allofthegraphswentsilent,whichdrovetheseguyscrazy,becausetheywantedtobeabletore-playthatpartandanalyzethewaves,buttheycouldn't.Sothenthey'relookingatthetimelineandtheylookatthis20yearwave,andtheyfindoutexactlyhowfaritwent,rightupuntilpoof,everything

    goesflat.ItwasDecember21,2012.Soherewegetintoyourwhole2012thing.Well,theLawofOnetellsuswhatisgoingtohappenin2012.Thechanneledmaterialwastalkingaboutitbefore.SowhenDanielstartstellingmethis,Iamawarethatthisisnotaguywhoislying,becausethereweretoomanythingsthatIaskedhim.Icross-examinedhim,andmethimonmultipleoccasions.ThenwhenyouguyscameoutwithyourHenryDeacontestimony,itreallywasfascinating.Beforewegoanyfurther,IwanttomakesureImentionmywebsite.Mywebsiteisdivinecosmos.com.Youcanreadaboutmoreofthistestimony,moreofallthis

    kindofstuffI'mtalkingabout.ThereareaudiointerviewsthatIhavedoneinourarchives.WehaveagreatCDseries,whichwe'veputtogethercalled,'TheScienceofPeace',whichgoesintoalotoftheconsciousnessscience,understandingthisstuff.NowthisiswhatIcameto.Wehavezerotimereferencewhenweareborn.Timeandspacebecomeoneatthemomentofourconception.Danieldoesn'tagreewithme,butIbelievethat2012istheZTRoftheearth.Thatit'sanewre-birthoftheearth'senergybody,anditmakesalotofsense.Soitisatthatmomentthatwehavethisimplosionandeverythingkindofcomestogether.

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    NowDonElkins,theguywhowasthequestionerintheLawofOneseries,hasaccesstochannelingmaterialsthatwerebroughtthroughwiththehelpofthisguyW.B.Smith,whoyouwillencounterfrequentlyifyoureadaboutufology.W.B.SmithworkedforCanadaintheDefenseMinistry,andwastheonlyofficiallysanctionedprogramthatinvestigatedthisglobalgrid.Itwascalled,'ProjectMagnet',theideathatthereisthisenergygridontheearth,criss-crossinglines.WhenyouhearDanBurisch'stestimony,hetalksaboutnaturalstargates.Thosearepointswheretheselinescross.Theyformnodes.Anodeisbasicallyadimensionalcrossingpoint.Nowyouhavetwocounterrotatinggeometriesontheearth.Onethatprettymuchstaysstableanddeterminestheshapeofthecontinents,andthenthere'sanotheronethatwedon'tseewhichcounter-rotates;andasthetwogothrougheachotheratcertainpointsthenodeswillcross.Ifthosenodepointscrosstogetherandyouhaveafavorableplanetaryalignmentatthesametime,yougetthissurgeofenergyinwhichspace/timeandtime/space,thereisthatcrossingpointbriefly.TheBermudaTriangleisanaturalstargate.Ifthesetwogridscrossovereachother,thenodesconnect,thealignmentisright,thenyoucanendupflyingthroughthisvortexandflyclearintotime/spaceandendupnotinourrealityanymore.Thereasonwhyallthisstuffisimportantisthat2012literallyrepresentsavortexactivityacrosstheentireearth.That'swhatIhaveconcludedfromtheresearch.Everypersononearth,exceptformaybesomeofthepeoplethatareon

    thenegativespiritualpath,calledServicetoSelf,butalmosteverybodyonearthisgoingtogothroughthisvortexexperience,whichisanecstaticthing;it'snotaterrifyingorpainfuleventatall.It'ssimilartohowthe'fullout'happens.Ourwholeplanetgoesintothat.Now,IreadaboutascensionandallthesethingsforalongtimeandIsaid,"Howcouldthisbepossible?Howcouldsomethinglikethishappen?"Therewouldhavetobeamassivesurgeofenergyinthesolarsystemthatwouldbedemonstratingthis.TheworkthatW.B.Smithwasdoinginthe50swithpeoplewhowerecontactedbyUFOsshowsthattheyhadinformationcomingthroughfromchanneling,whichwasveryaccurate;Smithhadalistof200specificquestionsaboutUFOs,andhe

    onlytookthepeoplewherethechannelansweredeveryquestionthesameway.Sometimesthequestionswerealittledifferentandthechannelwouldsaythatthat'sbecausethepersonisaChristianandtheyarebiasedwiththeirreligiousbeliefs,somethinglikethat.Anyway,allthesechannelssaidthesamethingandoneofthethingsthattheykeptsayingwasthewholesolarsystemisgoingtogetchargedupwithenergy.You'regoingtoseealltheplanetschanging,andyou'regoingtoseeatransformationoccur.Earthchanges,cataclysmicchangeswillseemtobehappening,butthenthere'sgoingtobethisbigenergeticeventandtheearthwillbepropelledintoagoldenage.Thereiswhat'scalledathreewaysplitwhenthishappens.Somepeoplestayonthepositivepath.Thosearethepeoplewhostaywiththeearth.Theearthbecomesfourthdimensionallyactivated.

    Whenyouhaveanoutofbodyexperience,whichI'vedone,youflyupintothesky,yougoaboveacertainpoint,it'skindoflikeafeeling.ForalongtimeIcouldn'tgetpastthefeeling.ItdrovemenutsbecauseIwanttogointospaceandIcouldn'tgetpastthisfeeling.Well,eventuallyIwasabletodothat,punchthrough.Youpunchthroughtheceilingandthere'sanewearthunderneathyou;andyouflyupagainandyoupunchthroughanotherone.There'sanewearthagain!Andtherearebuildingsandtherearecarsandtherearepeople.Theseareliketheafterlifeplaneswherepeoplegoafterthey'vephysicallydied.Ifyougohighenough,yougouptothe7thoneandit'salllikeStonehenge,

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    andthere'sallthesepeoplewalkingaroundinrobesandheadbands,andtheyareallveryfriendlytoyouandtheysayhello,andtheyknowthatyou'retherebutthey'rereallykindofsurprisedtoseeyou.I'vebeenthereacoupleoftimes.Ifyougopastthatthenyougooutintospace,andtypicallyyouendupfindingyourselfonaUFOprettyquickly,'causetheyseeyouandtheyfindyou,andyouhangoutandtalktotheETs,andmostofthemareveryfriendly.I'veneverreallyhadanegativeETexperiencemyself.Iknowotherpeoplehave.Sotomakealongstoryshort,thereisaplanethatiscon-centeredwiththeearthasaglobe,whichwouldbeupinthesky,probablyevenabovethealtitudeyou'reflyingatwhenyouareinanairplane,andthat'sgoingtobewherepeoplelivewhoareonthepositivepat,asthishappens.Nowitdoesgetalittleevangelicalsounding;Christianprophecy-Jesusmentionedsomethingthattheycalltherapture.TherearelinesinthebookofDanieltalkingaboutwheretherearetwo,andthenthereshallbeone.Twoshallbewalkinginthefieldandthenthereshallbeone.Twoshallbemakingwineandthentherewillbeone,allthisstuff.Butyou'vegottoremember,Christianityisnottheonlyreligionthathasthisprophecy.ItrunsthroughAboriginalprophecy,Hinduprophecy,Buddhist

    prophecy,Native-Americanprophecies.TheRagnarocistheCelticlegend.Prettymuchanyancientwisdomteachingyou'llfind,sayssomethingdiscontinuous,spontaneousandamazing,leadingtoagoldenage,isgoingtohappenontheearth.Idon'tthinkthatthispoleshiftthingwillhappenuntilafterthishappens,andmostpeoplewillhavepoppedthroughitbeforethepoleshifteveroccurs.Nowagain,thisisreallylunaticfringestuff;however,Ididtheresearch.Ilookedthroughcountlessreamsofwebsitesandprintedthemout.Ihaveahugebookshelfwecouldfilmifwehavetime,toshowyoualltheresearchIdid.NASAstudies,againandagain,showingeveryplanetinthesolarsystem,exceptforMercury;buttheSun,Venus,Mars,Earth,Jupiter,Saturn,Uranus,Neptune,Pluto-allofthemarehavingmassiveclimatechanges.They'regettingbrighter,they'regettinghotter,andthemagneticfieldis

    growinglarger.Insomecases,likeSaturn,theyarerotatingatadifferentspeed.Kerry:AndyoudidallthisresearchforRichardHoagland...David:That'scorrect.Kerry:...andactuallyareworkingwithHoaglandonthis,andhe'spublishedsomeofyourresearch.David:IhadfirstfoundoutaboutthisfromtheworkofDr.AlexeiDmitriev,whoisaRussianscientist,publishedin1997.Buthedidn'thaveNASAdata,hehadRussiandata,soIendeduptalkingtoHoaglandaboutthisin2004,andIhaddonealittlebitmoreresearchbutnottoomuch.Weweretalkingonthephoneandhesaid,"David,you'vegottodoit.You'vegottogetthewholethingfromNASA.Ifthisistrue,it'sthebiggeststorywe'vegot."

    SoIjusthitthebooks,andIjustwentnutsontheinternet,Googling,research,research,research;andwhatIcameoutwithisaveryimpressivedocumentwhichyourcontact,HenryDeacon,saidwaseverythingyouneededtoknowaboutwhat'sgoingoninthesolarsystem.It'scalledInterplanetaryDayAfterTomorrow.It'sapaperIwrotewithRichardHoagland.Youcanfinditonhiswebsite,whichisenterprisemission.com.Youcanalsofindlinkstoitonmypage,andI'mgoingtobeputtingupaconciseversionofallthedatainthefuture,thatyoucanreadatdivinecosmos.com.Whyisthisimportant?ThisgetsbackintothestudiesfromtheRussiansabout

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    DNA,dealingwithaparticularexperimentthatwasdone.FirstofallwehaveDr.GlenRein,anAmericanscientistwhoshowed-hetookplacentalDNAfromahumanplacenta,putitinatest-tubeandhadpeopletrainedtocreatecertainemotionalstates.They'dholdthetesttubeandthey'dfeelthegreatestangerandrageyoucanimagine,orthey'dfeeltheloveofamotherforhernewbornbaby,themostpure,unconditionallove.WhatDr.ReinfoundisthatwhenyoufeelthelovetheDNAunwindsandwhenthehelixunwinds,themessengerRNAcangoinandgrabthecode,andbuildlife,buildhealing,buildthehealingofyourbody,thehealingofcancer,diabetes,whatever.TheangercausestheDNAtoknotuplikeabraidofhair,andthenyoucan'tgethealingatall.NowthisisthekindofdatathatIwentintogreatdetailaboutinmyMP3series,'TheScienceofPeace',whichisavailableonmysite,andthat'swhereIwentthroughallthiswiththismanwhowonnineGrammysinmusic,andhisnameisLarrySeyer.Wedidawholemusicalsoundtrackforit.It'swonderful!I'mjustgivingyoualittlebittytasteofitrightnow.Butanyway,thatprovesonamicrobiologicallevelthatDNAisanantennaforconsciousness.It'stunedtothemindandtothesoul.Well,nowyouhavetogetintothisguy,Dr.PeterGariaev,whofirstconductedresearchcalledtheDNAPhantomEffect.HefoundifyouputDNAinalittleroominwhichitcanabsorblight,allthelightgetsstuckintheDNAandspirals

    throughthemolecule.Itdoesn'tstayintheroom.TheDNAislikealightsponge,whichisreallyweird,right?ButthenyoutaketheDNAoutofthetubeandthelightkeepsonspiralingasiftheDNAwasstillthereholdingitinplace,butthereisnoDNA.Guesshowlongitstayslikethat?Howlongdoyouthink?30days!For30daystheDNAcontinuestoact,eventhoughit'snotthereanymore.Thisiswhatwecallalatentstructure,alatentstructuringeffect.ThisisacommonfeatureofwhattheRussianscalltorsionfields,whichIgetintogreatdetailaboutinthe'ScienceofPeace'MP3seriesonmywebsitedivinecosmos.com

    Anyway,Gariaevwentfurtherthanthat,hetookafrogembryoandasalamanderembryoandtookanonburninglaser,andshinesitthroughthesalamanderembryo,redirectsthelightintothefrogembryo,allhe'sdoingisbeaminglightintohermeticallysealedcontainers,andwhatdoyouthinkhappens?Well,youdon'treallywanttogothere,butrememberwhatwesaidabouttheDrosophilus,thefruitfly?TheDNAcodeoftheeyeistakenout,andfivegenerationslatertheeyespopbackon.Youhavethisplantandyoumakeitmutate;standardlaboratoryplant,and25%ofthetimethemutationsheal.Whatdoyouthinkhappensifyoushinetheenergyofthesalamanderembryointoafrogembryo-justthelightbeam?Thefrogembryocompletelyre-toolsitself100%andbecomesasalamander,andthereisnogeneticevidenceofiteverhavingbeenafrogwhatsoever.Nowifwewanttogetreallyoffintothefarfringesofthings,youhavethis

    secretgroupwhichwehaveheardalotaboutcalledtheIlluminati,andtheyareveryintobloodlines,andtheysaythereismagicalpowerinthebloodlines;andthat'swhytherearethese13families...theydon'tinter-marryandthat'swhyifyouareinTheIlluminatiyouarebornintotheIlluminati.Idobelievethattheyexist.Ihavespokentowitnesseswhoaremembersofit,whogotout.Buttheyareallintothismagicpoweroftheblood,butwhatdidI

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    justtellyou?Youcantakeasalamanderembryoandsendthatenergyintoafrog,butwhatifyourbodyisthefrogandthesalamanderenergyislikethecosmos,thelogos,thegalacticcreator?That'swhattheGreatPyramidwasbuiltfor.Yousitinthetomb,theopencofferinthepyramid.Thepyramidisacentralizing,focusing,spiralofenergy.Ittakesthisenergyandmakesitintoaspiral.Idon'thavethetimetodescribethephysicsofhowthisworks,it'sinthe'ScienceofPeace'butyoucanexperienceascensioninthepyramid.That'swhatitwasbuiltfor.Itwasbuiltasachamberofhealing.SotheIlluminatiaretheinheritorsofthisAtlanteanscience,whichwasthendistorted,accordingtotheLawofOneseries,thousandsandthousandsofyearsago;seven,eight,ninethousandyearsago,thesenegativeenergiesgotinvolvedandchangedtheteachingandputitintoamorenegativedirection.That'swhereyougetintothesacrificesandallthesethingsthattheMayansendedupdoing,thesecretordersendupdoingthesethings.Sacrificeisonewaytoopenuptheshiftbetweenspace/timeandtime/space.Inthedeathprocess,youpopaholethroughtheveiltemporarily.It'saconsciousenergy,soinaritual,peoplecanfocusthatenergyanduseitforsomething,includingcreatingthisopening;especiallyifyouareatanaturalstargatekindofthing.Sotherearetechnologicalmeanstodothisalso.NowIamnotasupporterofanimalsacrifice,oranyothertypeofsacrifice,Ithinkit'ssomethingyouwillenduppayingforkarmically.That'sthethingthat'sreallycrazyaboutthesecretorders.It'snotthatIdislikethemas

    people.Ihaveknownalotofpeoplethatareinthesegroups.Itsmorethattheyhaveafundamentalmisunderstandingofhowconsciousnessreallyfunctions,whichisalovingcreationthatwelivein.DanBurisch'sdatatalksaboutagroupofentitiesfromOrion;thatismentionedintheLawofOneseries.TheLawofOneseriessaysthattheOrionsareanegativegroup.Negative,meaningthattheyhaveanintentiontotrytotakeover,totrytocontrolpeoplethroughfear.SotheseOrions,accordingtoDanBurisch'stestimony,comefromthefuture,travelbackintimeandtheyaretryingtofixtheirgeneticcode.They'retryingtofixtheirDNA.Theysaythisbecausetheywerebredfromasmallnumberofpeoplewhosurvivedthecataclysmonearth.So,putyourthinkingcapon!WhatdidwejustlearnaboutDNA?

    DNAissomethingthatismodifiedbyanoutsideenergy.Youcantakeasalamanderembryo,zapit,re-directintoafrogembryo,thefrogtransforms.Sotheuniverse,evenifyouhaveasmallpopulation,youcanstillrejuvenateyourDNAbyconsciousness.That'snotwhat'shappeningtotheJ-rods.TheJ-rodsareexperiencingwhattheLawofOnereferredtoasthedissolutionofthespiritbody.Whenyou'reonthenegativepath,meaningthepathwhereyoucreatefearandyouaretryingtomanipulateandcontrolothers,eventuallyyougettoapointwhereyoursoulcannotholditscharge.Yoursoulbeginsdissolvinganditactuallyaffectsyour

    DNA.Now,this(theLawofOneMaterial)isinthe80s.Thisis1981.Burisch'stestimonycomesoutin2000/2001.IsawthisandIthought,"OhmyGosh,thisisadirectvalidationofwhat'sintheLawofOneseries!"Youhavetorealizethattherearetwoopposing...accordingtoBurisch,there'stheIlluminationonesideandtherearetheneo-consontheotherside,Majesticorthe'orderofdeath'asAlexJonesjustcalleditinhisdocumentary,whichisnownumberoneonGooglevideoatthemoment.

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    So,youhavetwogroups-theIlluminatibelieveinaluciferianphilosophy.Imagineifyouarethissecretsocietyandyou'vebeenaroundforthousandsofyearsandthenthisgroupcomesalongandsaysthey'reChristian,andtheystarttorturingandkillingallyourpeople,andtellingyouthatyourknowledgeisevilandthatyouareabadperson.Yournaturalinstinctisgoingtobetosay,okay,well,whoevertheysayisthebadguy,mustbethegoodguy.Oh,well,Luciferwastheangelwhohadthegreatestamountofwisdomandlight;God'sbrightestangelwhowastossedoutofheaven.Well,whereverhegotthrownoutfrom,that'snotwherewewanttobebecausetheseChristiansaretorturingus,persecutingus,killingus.TheChristiansaresuppressingsciencebecausetheyonlysaythebible'sway.Theyaresuppressingyournaturalinstincts.Theydon'twantyoutohavesex,theydon'twantyoutoprocreate,exceptunderuniquecircumstanceswithacontract,legalcontract,marriage.SotheIlluminatigotstartedasanaturalrebellion,ofthesesecretorders,towhatwasalreadybeingestablished.TheybroughtintheEgyptianGods,IsisandOsiris.OsirisisrepresentedinEgyptianmythologybytheseveredphallus,thepenis,whichissymbolizedbytheobelisk.Isisissymbolizedbyawomanholdingthetorch,whichrepresentsthesecretmysteryschoolteachings,andthebookwhichrepresentsthemysteryschool

    teachings,andshehastheserayscomingoffofherhead.Torch,book,raysonthehead,Americansculpture,harborofNewYorkCity-ah,theStatueofLiberty!Obelisk-ah,WashingtonMonument!Hmm.Sothisisthebackofthedollarbill,thepyramid,theeyeontop.Theyhideitrightoutinfrontofyou,andtheylaughatyou.Theylaughatyoubecauseyoudon'tunderstand.Ihavebeenwiththeseguys.Ihavebeenintheroomwiththemandtheylaughattheaveragepersonathowstupidtheyare...intheirminds,stupidity.Idon'tagreewiththat,butitisnonethelessamazingthattheyputtheinformationoutthere,ifyouwanttoknowityoucanknowit,sofewpeoplebelieveitandtheyaresmugwiththeirsarcasmanddon'tbelieveanyofthisstuff.

    Buthere'sthedeal.The2012thingisaboutconsciousnessevolution.It'saboutlove.It'saboutchoosingtolove.Allyouhavetodotogettobeapartoftheearththat'scoming,isbeslightlymorefocusedonlovingpeopleandhelpingthem,ratherthanmanipulatingandcontrollingthem.Ifyouhavetenthingsthatyoudoeachday,fiveofthemarenegativemeaningyoumanipulate,youcontrolpeople,fiveofthemarepositive,meaningofyeah,youcangetinfrontofmeintraffic,orletmehelpyouacrossthestreet,ifit'saperfectmixof5to5,thenyouarestillnotgoingtomakeit.Butifyouareat51%,meaningthat49%ofthethingsthatyoudoareselfishandmanipulativeandcontrolling,aslongasyou're51%you'regoingtogothroughthisvortex,you'regoingtoendupintheEarthin4thdensity,asit's

    called.HowamIsupposedtorectifywhenIgettoL.A.sevenyearsafterIdidthesetapes,Ihad25ormoretapesthatIhadn'ttranscribed.IwasinabadrelationshipandIjuststoppedtranscribing.Yourememberthestacksoftapesonmydesk,right?SevenyearslaterIhadadreamthatwassaying,"you'vegottotranscribethesetapesnow."I'minHollywood.I'mworkingonamovie.SevenyearsagowhenIdidthis

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    channeling,Iwaslivingintheloftofabarnworkinginconstruction.Iwasn'tevenmakingenoughmoneyfrommyreadingstodoitfull-time.Itwas1998andearly1999.Isitdown,andIstarttranscribingthesetapesfromsevenyearsago.They'retalkingabout2012.They'retalkingaboutascensionandthey'realsotalkingaboutmybeinginL.A,myworkingonafilm-allthesethings.ThenamesofthepeopleI'mworkingwith,thecatthatoureditorhad,allthepersonalities.EventothepointwhereIhadthesesweetpotatoesIboughtatthehealthfoodstoreandtheywenttosproutonmyrefrigerator,andthenIgobacktothistapefromsevenyearsagoandit'sdescribingsweetpotatoesgoingtosproutonthetopofarefrigerator.Sevenyearsfromtheniswhenthishappened.Wehavesevenyearsfromnowuntil2012.Igetreadingswherethey'resayingwhatmyfutureissevenyearsinthefuture.Inthesamereadingthey'resayingwhat'sgoingtohappenafter2012.Thatwe'regoingtohavethisworldthatis100timesmoreharmoniousthanwhatwearelivinginnow.Thisisaworldinwhichyoucanlevitateyourself.Youcanmanifestinstanthealing,instanttelepathiccommunication,nobodycankeepasecret.It'stotallyharmoniousbecausetherearenosecrets.Youcanfly.It'sascension!Jesus,inJohn14:12said:"AsIdothesethings,soshallyoudogreaterthings,forIgountomyFather".Nowagain,I'mnotafundamentalist.I'mnotabiblethumper.Iknowit'snot

    fashionabletobeChristian,especiallybecauseofthewaronterrorandhowthat'sallbecomemanipulatedintothenextcrusade.But,nonetheless,don'tyouthinkthatmaybeJesusknewwhathewastalkingabout?Don'tyouthinkthatmaybeenoughpeoplewitnessedwhathewasdoing,thatthisisbasedonrealtestimonyandisnotallafabricationlikesomebookshavesaid?WheneverIwouldreadoneofthesebooksthatwouldstartsayingthatJesuswasmadeupandwasfictional,IwouldstartgettingallthesethoughtformsofevilandIgotmessagessaying,look,youknow,hewasreal.HegotblownwayoutofproportionintermsofpeoplemakinghimintotheonlySonofGod;thatwasneverintended.Jesuswouldsay"I'mtheSonofMan."Butwhatifthisrapturethingisreal?

    Well,youhaveawholescenariointheBookofRevelationsdescribingananti-Christ,whichhadgottenworldwidepower,thatwaswoundedonthesideandyetdidlive,andthemarkofthebeastontheforehead.Themarkofthebeastispeopleshuttingdowntheirthirdeye.Itdoesn'thaveanythingtodowithmicrochipping.Noneofthatstuffisgoingtohappen.Theymightwantittohappen,'they',meaningtheIlluminatiorthosetypesofpeople,butitwon'thappen.Ireallydon'tsee,propheticallyspeaking,anegativefutureforhumanity.Iseepredominantlyapositivefuture.IhavehaddreamsinwhichtheentirepantheonofNeo-consintheBushadministrationendsupbeingheldaccountableforwhattheyhavebeendoing,whichinvolvesmanipulationandcontrol.Ithinkweareheadingintoaveryinterestingtimeinthefuture.Idonotseemassive,irreversibleeconomiccollapse.Thevastmajorityofpeopleonthe

    insideinbothgroups-theMajesticandtheIlluminati-arenowwellawareofthis2012thingthat'sgoingtohappen.Theyonlyseeitasacataclysmbecausewhenyou'reworkingfromseparationandcontrol,someofthepeoplethatareonthatpathwillprobablyexperiencepoleshift.Butyouhavethisthreewaysplit.Kerry:Sowhathappenstotheothertwobranches?Becauseyouweretalkingaboutathreewaysplit,andyou'vetalkedaboutthegoodside...David:Right.Thevastnumberofpeople,atthispoint(althoughit'schanging)arestuckinwhattheLawofOnecalledthemiasmaofindifference.Whatthat

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    meansis,theaveragepersononthisplanethasnotchosenwhethertheyareservicetoselforservicetoothers,meaningtheyhavenotchosenwhethertheywanttomanipulatepeopleorwhethertheywanttolovepeople.That'swhatitreallyboilsdownto.Nowinthesecretorders,youhavesomeverycynicalpeopleinthere.You'rebornintothisthingwhereyouareabusedfromthetimeyou'reborn.Youhavetogototheseritualsatnight.You'reseeingtheseslicersanddicers,that'swhattheycalltheminthelowerechelons;butthevastmajorityofthepeopleintheIlluminatidon'tlikewhat'shappeningandwouldgetoutiftheycould.Theydon'tlikeit,butthey'restuckbecauseifyoutrytoescape,they'llkillyou.Youhavetogotothesemeetingsstartingfrom1:30inthemorninguntilabout4:00inthemorning.Soyouendupgoingtosleepwithyourclotheson,twotimesaweekandyouareindoctrinatedwithallthecultteachings,andtheytellyouthatyouaregoingtobethiswonderfulleaderintheneworder,andtheywanttohavecontrolovertheearthbecausetheyinheritedthisascensionprophecy.Theyknowit'scoming.That'swhyit'sonthedollarbill.'NovusOrdoSeclorum"...NewWorldOrder."AnnuitSeptis"...Hehaslookedwithfavoronourbeginnings...Thepyramidwithoutthecapstoneissixsided.Okay,youhavethefoursides,thebottomandthetop.That'ssix.Whathappenswhenyouputthecap-stoneon?Howmanysidesdoyougetthen?Thetopiseliminated.Youonlyhavefive.One,

    twothree,four,andthebottomisfive.Inpyramidnumerologysixmeansimperfection;evil,fivemeansperfectionanddivinity.SothecapstonereturningtothepyramidrepresentstheNewWorldOrder,thenewage,whichoriginallywasnotabadthing.Soourinsidersarenowawareofthis.Peoplesay,"whyaretheydeficitspending,whyaretheyrunningupthenationaldebtsomuch,andwhyaretheypollutingtheatmosphereandcuttingdowntherainforestandnuclearmissilesanddah,dah,dah,dah?Howcantheybedoingthis?It'salmostlikethey'renotplanningforthefuture.Theydon'tthinkit'sgoingtomatter.Well,that'strue.Whatdoesitmatterifyoupollutetheearth?Whatdoesitmatterifthereisglobalwarming?So,thisiswhatstartstomakesenseoutofallthemadness.

    Kerry:...sothat'stwo...David:Right.I'msorry,Ididn'tanswerthequestionexpediently.Kerry:Andsowehaveathirdgroup?Whathappenstothem?David:Thenegativegroupgraduates4Dnegative.That'saverysmallnumberandthat'sthepeoplewhobecometheJ-rodsandtheP-52s,P-45s,P-24s.Thoseareallyournegativegraduates.Theystaywiththeearth,andexperiencepoleshift.Theyexperiencecataclysm;someofthemareunderground,someofthemareonthesurface.TheonesonthesurfacearetheP-52sthatgotoOrion.TheonesonthegroundaretheJ-rodsandP-45s.

    Mostpeopleonearthpopintotime/space,theonedownhere,andtheyrecreatetheearthexactlyasithadbeenexceptthatnow,you'reinfantasyland.Youcanlevitateifyouchoseto,oryoucanseebeamsoflight.

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