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Transcript – From Rock-Bottom to Rock-Hard Abs with Natalie Jill- #320

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Speaker1: BulletproofRadio.Astateofhighperformance.

Dave: Hey.It'sDaveAspreywithBulletproofRadio.Today'sCoolFactoftheDayisthatnon-foodthingslikeshampoo,cream,sunscreen,lipstick,toothpaste,medications,andvitaminssometimesuseglutenforprocessing.Justbecauseit'snotbeingusedasafood,itdoesn'thavetobedeclaredonalabel.So,ifyou'relikecrazygluten-sensitive,I'dcheckwithyou'remanufacturers.Ifit'slipstick...Actuallyyouprobablydon'twanttoputglutenonyourlipseverydaybecauseyoueatalotoflipstick.Ireadsomestudiessomewherethatwomeneatlike80poundsoflipstickayear.I'mjustkidding.Itwasnowherenearthatmuch,butitwasenoughtopayattentionto.

Iwouldsayyouprobablydon'thavetoworryaboutitdependingonthelevelofsensitivityyouhave.Ifyoudon'tknowyourlevelofsensitivity,trygoingwithoutgluten,strictlygoingwithoutglutenforamonth,andseewhathappenstoyourbrain.Seewhathappenstotherestofyou.Quiteoftenitcantake6monthsforalltheeffectsofglutentoleaveyourimmunesystem.It'skindofcrazyallthedifferentsystemsthatcanbetiedtoitandwearen'tverygoodashumansatidentifyinglong-termresultsofshort-termactions.So,youatethepizzaandyou'restillkindofstiffamonthlater,you'renotgoingtodrawthatcorrelationunlessyou'reacrazyeventcorrelationmachinelikeme.

Now,beforewegetintotoday'sepisodewhichpromisestobereallycool,there'ssomethingyoushouldknowabout.Ifyou'rewatchingontheYouTubechannel-Bulletproofexec.com/YouTubewilltakeyoustraightthere-you'dseewhatI'mholdingup.I'mholdingupthisamazingcaseofBulletproofBars.ThesearemadewithbrainOctaneoil.They'realsomadewith12gramsofpurecollagenfromgrass-fedcows.Thisisproteinandfat.It'sthemostfatyou'llfindinjustaboutanybarIknowof.Ittasteslikeavanillacookiewith2gramsofsugarandthatonlycomesfromthenuts.There'scashewsinhere.That'stheonlytreenut,whichisoneoftheleastreactivetreenutsforpeoplewhohaveautoimmuneconditions.Whatthisisisdessert.It'ssogoodandwhenyoueatit,youjustdon'tcareaboutfoodforalongtime.Ifyoueat2ofthemonanairplane,you'redone.Yousimplydon'twantlunch.Thisisactuallyreallyfuelforyourbody.IthaschangedmybusinesstravelforeverandIlovethem.

Thenewesthackoftheday,ofthemonth,oftheyear,thatalsotiesintobusinesstravel,BulletproofInsta-Mix.Ifyouhaven'theardaboutthisstuffyet,that'sbecauseitjustcameout.It'sagamechanger.Itisaboxwith14packets,individualsingle-servingpackets,ofgrass-fedbutterandbrainOctaneinapowderedform.We'vebeenworkingfor3yearsonthesciencetogetthissoittastesrightanditdoesn'thavecrapinit.It'sprettyeasytomixbutterandsomekindofrandomcheapcoconutoilwithsomekindofcrappythingandputitoutthereanditdoesn'tworkbecausecoconutoildoesn'tdothesamethingasbrainOctaneoilanditdoesn'ttastegood.Frankly,it'snotBulletproof.Thisistheanswerforbusinesstravel.I'vewantedthisforsolong.It'sfinallyhere.YoudumpinyourfreshbrewedBulletproofcoffee,shakeitupinyourBulletproofcoffeemug,you'regoodtogo.Wow!It'salreadychangedthewayItravel.I'msostokedonthisstuff.Noliquid.Nospilling.NoTSAcomplexity.


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So,that'sthecoolstuffthat'sgoingonoverinBulletproofLand.NowweleaveBulletproofLand

andwe'renowinBulletproofRadioLand.Wait,RadioLandisanotherTVshoworanotherradioshow.IactuallylikeRadioLand.Sorryguys.Ididn'tmeantosteponyourtrademarksandallthatstuff.Today'sguestissomeonewhoactuallywas50poundsoverweightwithseveredepression,andthatlettohergettingdivorcedandbroke.That'sjustthebackstoryandshe'snoneofthosethingsnow,thatI'mawareof,exceptonceyou'redivorced,you'redivorced.Justlikeme.Hey,nothingwrongwithalittlepracticebeforeyoumakeitperfect.I'mtalkingtoaMasterSportsNutritionist,it'sthefitnesstrainerwho'swonmillionsoffollowersonFacebookandothersocialmediathingslikethat.NoneotherthanNatalieJill,authorofthenewbook"The7-DayJumpStart."Natalie,welcometoBulletproofRadio.

Natalie: Iamsostokedtobehere.Seriously,mylifefeelscompletethatIgettobeonBulletproofRadiotoday.

Dave: Aww.Thanks.

Natalie: I'mstoked!

Dave: Hey,Brockwegottosendheralotmoreproducts.

Natalie: Well,IjustheardwhatyouwerepumpingabouttheBulletproofInsta-Mix,andI'mallaboutthatnowbecauseexactlywhatyousaidwiththecheapbutterandthecoconutoil.That'swhatIliterallyjustsaidlastweek.So,I'mstoked.

Dave: Yeah.ItfeelsdifferentwhenyougettherealstuffbecausebrainOctaneraisesketonesandcoconutoilhasalowereffectonketonesthanjusteatingnothing.ThisistotallynotwhattheytellyouinPaleocircles,butthescienceisthescience.Coconutoil'sgoodforyou,it'sjustnotgoingtoputyouinketosis.

So,I'mhappywefinallygetachancetochaton-the-air.We'vetalkedbefore.You'recomingoutwithyournewworkandyou'vereallyactuallydonealotofhackingonyourselfbecauseItendtolistenmoretosomeonewho'sdealtwith...You'rereallyopenaboutit.Thefactthatyesyouhad50extrapounds.Ihad100extrapoundsandIdealtwiththesymptomsofAsperger'ssyndromeandsocialanxiety.Asakid,IusedtohaveOCD,andODD,andallsortsofweirdstuff,butjusttobeabletobeopenandvulnerableaboutthat,that'sonethingIrespectaboutyou.You'relike,"Yes.Ihadtolose50pounds.IhadtoturnmybrainbackonfromwhenIwasdepressed."You'reopenaboutitandyousharereallyauthentically.Howdidthatleadtoyouwritingthe"7-DayJumpStartPlan?"Howdidyougetherewithmillionsofpeoplelisteningtoyoureverywordsandlookingatyoureveryaction?Givemeyourstory.

Natalie: Youknow,it'ssofunnybecauseit'shardtobelievemyself.IspentmostofmybeingwhatIcalla"fakeperson."Upuntilmylate30s,Iwasthepersonthathadthisimagetoholdup.Ithought,"Ihavetohavethiscertainjob.Ihavetoliveinthistypeofneighborhood.Ihavetodrivethiskindofcar.Ihavetobemarriedwiththe2dogsandthepicketfenceandthebaby."IjusthadthisimageofwhatwassupposedtobeandIfeellikeIspentmywholelifeinthisfakeworldof


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puttingonanactofwhoIthoughtIwassupposedtobe.Ifthatmakessense...

Dave: Itmakesalotofsense.I'msurehalfofthepeoplelisteningarelike,"Oh,yeah."

Natalie: Yeah.It'shappening.IfeellikeitwassuchabiglessonformebecausewhathappenedwasjustwhenIlookedlikeIhadeverythingsoputtogethertoeverybodyelseintheworld,mylifewasfallingapartinside.IwaspregnantandIwashappyaboutthat,butIwasalsopregnantatatimewhenthehousingmarkethadcrashed,whenthestockmarkethadcrashed,whereIwasgettingadivorce.MyhusbandandIatthetimedecidedourmarriagewasnotgoingtoworkforalotofreasons.IhadgainedalotofweightwhenIwaspregnantandnotbecauseofhormonesandjustbecauseIwaspregnant,butbecauseIwasfranklyeatingeverything.Imeanfrenchfries,icecream,everythingtocomfortmyselfbecauseIwasfeelingdown.

IfeltlikeIhadtheweightoftheworldonmebecausefinanciallyIwasstruggling.IknewIwasgoingtolosemyhouse.IknewIwashavinganewbaby.Iwasgoingtobedivorced.IwasreallyscaredbecausetheonlystablethingIhadinmylifewasmyjobandIwastravelingfull-timewithit.Iknewthathadtochange.howwasIgoingtobeasinglemomandraiseadaughterandgothroughadivorceandtravel?Irememberfeelingsooverwhelmed.IfeltsophonybecauseIhadthislifethatIlookedlikeIwaslivingandIdidn'tknowhowtotellpeopleIwasstruggling.Iwasembarrassed,whichissofunnytomenowbecauseIshareeverythingnow.Idon'tcare.Ijustputitalloutthere,butatthetimeitwaslike,"Ihavetobetough.Ican'tletpeopleseethisside."Iwasreallyafakeperson.It'slikeadifferentchapterofmylife.

Dave: There'salinefromanAliceinChainssongthatIusedtoreallylikeandit'salotlike,"TheyneverknewwhoIthoughtIwassupposedtobe,"isalinefromit.You'reremindingme...IrememberwhenItoldmybosswaybackwhenIgotdivorced,itwaswaymorethan10yearsago,IwalkedinandI'mlike,"Look.Ineedtotakeafewdaysoff."Hegoes,"Withnonotice?Likewhatthehell.Wheretostart?"I'mlike,"Thingsaremoving.I'mgettingdivorced."Hejuststoppedandhegoes,"Areyoukiddingme?Whydidn'tyousaysomething?Ihadnoideaanythingwasgoingon."Allmyfriendssaidthey'dhadnoidea.Thisjustcameoutoftheblue.I'mlike,"Well,you'renotsupposedtotalkaboutthatstuff."Itturnsoutyouaresupposedtotalkaboutit,Ijustdidn'tknow.So,youwereinthesameboatIwasin,right?

Natalie: Yeah.Iwastooproudfortherapyatthetime.AllthethingsthatIwouldbesupportiveofnow,Iwastooproud.Like,"Oh.Idon'tatherapist..."

Dave: Therapyisforweakpeople.Don'tyouknowthat?

Natalie: "Idon'tneedantidepressants."Everythingwasjustlike,"Idon'tneedthat.Idon'tneedtotalktosomeoneandtellthemmyproblems."Iknewsomethingwaswrong.IknewIwasreallydepressed.IknewIdidn'twanttogetupintheday.Iwastired.LiterallyIfeltliketheonlythingthatwaskeepingmegoingwasthatIwasgoingtobeamom.IrememberwishingthatIhadaremotecontrolwithafast-forward.I'mlike,"Ijustneedtofast-forwardthiswholetimeofmylife.Idon'tknowwhereit'sgoing,butIneedtofast-forward."MylineinthesandwasafterIhadmydaughter,andthingsweredefinitelyoutofcontrol,butIrememberwalkingandcatchingaglimpseofmyselfinawindow,likewhereyouseethemirrorreflection,andIjust


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didn'trecognizewhoIhadbecome.Ihadthebagsundermyeyes.Iwasoverweight.Mydaughterwasnowafewmonthsold.Thingswerehangingonme.Ijustdidn'trecognizewhoI'dbecomeandIfeltsoalone.Ithought,"Idon'twanttobethispersonanymore."

Itelleverybodynow,theveryfirststepinchangingyourlife,whetherit'sweightlossoryourcareerorrelationship,isyouhavetomakeadecision.Youhavetodecide.Youhavetodecideit'spossible.Ialwayshearpeoplesay,"Oh.Itriedthis,"or"Idon'tknow,"or"Imight,"buttheyhaven'tdecided.WhenIdecidedI'dhadenough,that'swheneverythingstartedtochange.IwenthomeandIjustsaid,"Okay.Idon'tknowhowI'mgoingtogetoutofthis,butI'mgettingoutofit.I'mdeciding."Imadeavisionboard.ThatwastheveryfirstthingIdid.IdidthatbecauseIwantedtobeabletolookatimagesofpossibility.Ithought,"IfIcouldjustlookathappycouples,orlookatfitpeople,orlookatmoney,"orjustthingsthatIthoughtwouldmakemehappyatthetime,maybeIcouldstartactingtowardsthosefeelings.Thatwasliterallymyfirststep.Ididn'thavethisgrandplantobeinfitnessornutritionorinspireothers.IjustwastryingtosavemyselfandInewIhadtodecideandcreateavision.Thatwasliterallythefirststep.

Dave: That'saprettypowerfulstory.Youlearnalotfromaprocesslikethatversuslike,"Oh.IdecidedIwasgoingtostartahealthmarketingandI'llmarkettheAmericanfoodpyramid."Yougetadifferentlevelofauthenticity.Ithinkthat'swhyyouhavesomanyfollowersonsocialtoobecauseyou'rereallyopen.Irespectthataboutyou.

Natalie: Ineverhadtheideaofstartingafitnessbusiness,butwhathappenedwasIneededaccountabilitysomehowandIcouldn'ttellmyfriends,andIdidn'twanttotellmyfamily.Ididn'tknowwhototalktoaboutwhatwasgoingon,soI...ThisiswhenIhadnofollowersonFacebook,Ihadmyhighschoolfriends.WhenFacebookwasfirst...

Dave: Bothofthem...

Natalie: Yeah.IrememberthefirstthingIstarteddoingwasIwasgoingtopayattentiontowhatIwaseatingandIhadstartedresearchingonlineaboutfoodandnutrition.Ialreadyknewsomestuffaboutbeinggluten-free,butIdidn'tunderstandreallythatwholeunprocessedfoodandwhatIneededtobalancethingsout.Ithought,"I'mjustgoingtostartpreparingmealsbasedonwhatI'mlearningandI'mgoingtotakeapictureofthemandsharethembecauseIwantotherpeopletoseewhatI'mdoing."ItwasreallymyownaccountabilitythatifItellpeopleI'mgoingtopostmymealseveryday,Ihavetodoit.Ican'treachforthechipsorthejunkbecauseI'mgoingtopostmymeal.Istartedsharingandwhatwasreallyamazingwasthatwasthefirstexperienceinmylifeofbeingtrulyauthentic,oftellingwhatI'mdoingwithoutanagenda.Ihadsomuchsupport.Itwasamazing.Peoplewerelike,"Thisissowild.You'resharingyourmeals."Ihadnoagenda.

Dave: You'retellingmeyoudidn'tphoto-sculptyourguacamoleintoaperfectdomeviaPhotoshopormedia?

Natalie: No.SofunnybecauseIthinkofmycookbooknowwhichislikefoodstylistsandeverything.RememberBlackberries?ThiswasmyBlackberryphone.Thingslookedlikepukequitefrankly.It


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waslike,"Whatisthis?"Ididn'tknowaboutthat.Iwasdoingitformyownaccountabilityanditwasveryreal.

Dave: Peoplearemeanonsocial.You'relike,"Okay.Here'sapictureofwhatIactuallyeat,"andthey'relike,"Itdoesn'tlookpretty."I'mlike,"Here'sthedeal,mostofusdon'teatfood-sculptedfoodeverymeal."It'sjustathought,butyeah...

Natalie: NowwedowithInstagramandPinterest.AtthetimemyaccountabilityonFacebook,noIjustputitoutthereasmyBlackberryphotos.ItwasreallyamazingtomethatIwasjustsharingandpeoplewereinterested.Theywerelike,"Whatisthis?Whatareyouputtinginhere?"Ijustwastalkingtopeople.Thatwasit.Therewasnograndbusinessplan.Iwasjusttalkingtothem.

Dave: Howdidthatleadtothe"7-DayJumpStart?"

Natalie: Thisisactuallyreallyfunny.Peoplelikedmymealsandtheystartedasking,"Hey.Thisisreallycreative.Canyouputtogetherarecipebookforus?"Ithought,"Arecipebook?Idon'tknowthefirstthingaboutthat."Somebodytoldmetomakeane-book.IrememberGoogling"Whatisane-book,"becauseIdidn'tknowwhatthatmeant.Ane-bookisanelectronicbook.Then,becauseI'mafast-acting...LikethatADDpersonality,Ijustdothings.Idon'treallyresearchenoughonceIdecide.Ididn'tlookuphowtoprofessionallydoane-book.IjustdidonemyselfonaworddocumentwithmyBlackberrypicturesbeinginserted.So,ItookoneweekendandIputallmyBlackberrypicturesinandIwrotealittledescription.Itwasthiscompleteghetto-style...ItwasnotevenaPDF,likeaworddocument.IdecidedIwasgoingtocharge$10forandIputitoutonFacebookandI'mlike,"OkayyouguysIputmyrecipestogether.Heretheyare.$10ifyouPayPal.Here,I'lle-mailittoyou."That'showitstarted.

Dave: Nicee-commerceplatformthere.

Natalie: Yeah.Ididn'tknowaboutinternetmarketingorsalespagesoranyofthisstuff.Ijustknewpeopleareaskingforrecipes.WhiletheywerelikingmyrecipesandIwasdoingthis,mybodywaschangingbecauseIwasreallygettingexcited,Iwasconnectingwithpeople,Iwasworkingoutmore,IwasstartingtobecomethepersonIwantedtobeandIwassharingthat.Iwassaying,"Iwenttothegym.Ididthisworkout,"andpeoplestartedtoseemybodychange,sotheysaid,"Hey.Howdoyouputthistogetherinamealplan?"So,ItookanotherweekendandIwrotewhat'snow,itwasaverydifferentversionatthetime,butmyoriginal"7-DayJumpStart."Iwroteitinaweekend.Ididn'tproofreadit.It'sembarrassingnow,butitworked.ItwaslikeIputtogetherwhatIexplainedtoyou,mygoals,howtodoavisionboard,howIputamealtogetherandhowtouserecipesinalittlecookbook.Idecidedtosellthatfor$35andpeoplelovedit.

ItwasI'mbeingrealandI'mconnecting,I'mnotmarketing,Iwasbeingrealconnectingwithpeople.Theylovedit.Theywouldsendmeinamessageandsay,"Ohmygosh.ThisJumpStartwasawesome.Ilost5pounds.I'mfeelinggreat.Thankyouforcreatingthis."IwouldaskthemifIcouldscreenshotthatandshareitandthey'dsayyesandIwouldsay,"Ohmygosh.LookatDave.Hejustsentmethis.Itmademyday."Imadeitabouthimbecauseitwasabouthim.Helostweightdoingthis.Thisisamazing.Ialwayssaid,"Whoisnext?"


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Itjuststartedtogrow.Itstartedtogrowandwhatwasamazing,itwasn'tsomuchthemoney

because,yeahmoneystartedtocomein,butwhatwasamazingtomeisthatmyrockbottomplacethatIdidn'tunderstandwhyitwashappeningtomewasnowchangingthelivesofotherpeopleandgettingthemencouragedandmotivatedandIfeltlikeIhadapurposenow.It'slike,"Wow!IhaveapurposeandI'mhelpingthesepeople."Itwasamazingtome.Iwasn'tsettingouttobeasocialmediaexpertorafitnessguruoranyofthat.Itjusthappenedfrommebeingreallyrealandsharingandlistening.

Dave: It'samazing.Youjustwentandyoudidit.WhenIstartedout,Ispent5yearswritingabook,"TheBetterBabyBook."IwrotethebookbeforeItalkedtopublishers.IhadnoideawhatIwasdoing,butit'sanimportantbook.Iwroteitactuallybasedonmyownprogramformyownfamilytonothavekidswithautismbecauseitkindofrunsinmyfamily.IkindofhadAsperger's.IsaykindofbecauseIwasn'tformallydiagnosedwithit,butitrunsinmyfamilyandIhadallthesymptomsofitbutbythetimeIwasdiagnosedwithstuff,I'dalreadychangedmybiologysodramaticallythatI'mneurologicallydifferent.We'llputitthatway.

Ididallofthatwork.That's5yearswhereIprobablycould'vebeensharingknowledgeandinformationandjusttalkingaboutit,andyoujustlikewentforit.IbroughtthebookoutandbecauseIhadn'tdonethethingsthatyou'vedone,itonlysoldlike5,000copies.It'sactuallygotwaymorescienceinitthan"TheBulletproofDiet,"whichsoldhundredsofthousandsofcopiesbecauseIlearnedhowtodoitright.Alongtheway,asthetrafficstartedtogrowforBulletproof...Ididcomeoutwithane-bookbriefly,butitwasonceofthosethingswhereIspentalongtimeonitandI'mlike,"It'sjustnotgoodenough."IsetthebarsohighthatImadeitmoreworkthanitneededtobe,andhereyouareandyou'relike,"I'mjustgoingtogoforit."So,kudosfordoingthatbecauseIdidn'tdothatandyou'remakingmewonderwhy.

Theveryfirste-commerceeverontheinternet,youtotallyremindedmeofit,wasat-shirtthatsaid,"Caffeine,mydrugofchoice,"outofmydormroom.Ipostedtheselittleforumscalled"NewsGroups,"onsomethingcalled,"Usenet."Thiswasbeforethebrowserexisted.Itwaslike,"Ifyouwantoneoftheset-shirts,youcanjustsendachecktomydormroomandI'llsendyouat-shirt."Itwassoghetto,butwedidn'thaveanythingbetteratthetime.Itwasactually,itturnsout,cutting-edge.Thatquickstartabilitytojustgooutthereandsay,"Idon'treallyknow,butI'llfigureouthowI'mgoingtodoit,"that'sarealasset.You'remakingwonderwhyIdidn'tdomoreofthatinBulletproof.

Natalie: I'lltellyouwhereitcamefrombecausethatwasn'ttheoldme.TheoldmeincorporateAmericabeforeIwentthroughallthiswasintoperfection.Everythinghadtobeperfect.Thiswas...Ididn'tcareanymore.IwassodownonmyluckandfeelingsobadthatIhadnothingtolose.Ithought,"I'mputtingmyselfoutthereandI'mjustbeingreal,"andwhatIwaslearningwasthemorerealIwas,themoreIwasconnectingwithpeople.It'sfunnytomebecauseIhavesomanypeople,especiallyinfitnessandnutritionnow,theycometomeandtheysay,"Ohmygosh.You'rethisbigsocialmedia..."or"You'vebeensuccessful,"whatever,"HereIhavethisbusinessplan."I'mthinking,"You'remissingthewholething.That'snotwhatIdidatall."Ibuiltafollowingreallyjusttalkingtopeopleandbeingreal.That'swhereIgotmyproductideas.Itwascompletelytheotherwayaround.


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Dave: Theauthenticityandconnectingthing...Istartedwritingwith...Ialreadyhadajob.IwasaVP

atabigcompany.Ididn'texpecttobuildabusinessoutofitlikethat.Iwantedpeopletoreadtheinformation,butI'mlike,"Ialreadyhaveapaycheck.I'mOK.I'mnotwealthy,butI'mcertainlycomfortable.It'sallgood."Thatlevelofstartup,samething,peoplecomingall,"IhavethisbigideaandI'mgoingtoexploitthemarket."I'mlike,"Actuallynoone'sgoingtolistentoyoubecauseyou..."

Natalie: Where'syourplatform?

Dave: Yeah.Wellevenifyoubuildaplatform,it'sliketobuildanauthenticplatformofpeoplewhocare,youhavetocareandyouhavetoreallybringiteveryday.PeoplehaveBSdetectorsthatarereallystrongandifyousetthatoffbecauseyou'renotauthentic,itdoesn'tmatterifyoumeanttobeauthentic,eitheryouareoryouaren't.Idon'tknowhowtoteachthat,butyoucertainlyputthatinearlybecauseyouputallofyourselfintoyourbusiness.You'vealsoevolvedyourthinking.So,youstartedoutwiththis,I'mjustgoingtocallitaghettoe-book,andnowyou'vegotlikea"realbook."Howdidyouchangehowyoulayitout?

Natalie: Myghettoe-bookevolvedasmybusinessgrewandIhave19e-booksnowwhichisfunny.Everysinglee-book,everysingleDVDIhadmade,everysinglethingI'vedoneisbecausemyaudienceaskedforit.Ineverjusthadtheidea.Itwasliketheyaresaying,"Wewantworkouts,"or"Wewantthis,"andIcreateditbasedonwhattheywereaskingmefor.OnceIwasactuallymakingmoneyandIwasabletostartanactualbusinessandmyfollowingwasgrowing,itwastimetomakethat"7-DayJumpStart"better.ThenIreallydidinvestingettinghelpandmakingitmoremeatier,moreinformation,somenewerrecipes.So,thee-bookwasdoinggreatandIdidn'ttweakitmuchafterthatbecausemygosh,wehadhelpedtensofthousandsofpeopletransformanditwasworkingitwasamazing.

WhathappenedwasIwantedtogetouttomoreofthemasses.IfeellikemymessageandwhatIwentthroughwasstrongandIwatchedallofthesedietscomeandgothatIwasnotbelievingandnotfollowing,therewasdefinitelyahandfulthatIdid,butthere'salotthatIthinkisjustgarbageoutthere.Ithought,"Ijustwanttogetmysimplemessageoutthere,"andIknewtherewasonlysomuchIcandomyselfonsocialmediaandthroughmywebsite.Ijustthought,"IhavetogetthisinahardcopybookandIhavetogetitinbookstoresbecause1)I'mgoingtoreachmorepeople,and2)Itvalidatesitmore,"becauseyouandmemightthinkinformation'sgreatinane-book,buttherearepeoplethatwantahardcopy,theywanttoknowit'sapublishedbook,andIgetit.

So,tome,thatwassortofthenextstep.Idon'tneedtoprovethatthisworks,Ijustwanttogetitouttomorepeople.That'swhenIdidtalkwithseveralpublishersandendedupworkingwithoneonturningthisintoanactualbook,andwhatIwantedtodowiththatwasmakeitdifferentandbetterthanthee-book.IfeltthatIwantedthistobeaPart2topeoplethathavealreadydonemye-book,butalsosomethingthatthemasseswouldreallyenjoy.Thingslikeputting84brandnewrecipesinit,soitcouldbearecipebook,addingworkoutstoit.Justmakingitalotmoremeaty.


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Dave: So,howdidyoulayitout?It'slaidoutprettycleanly.Whatdoesthe7-DayJumpStartPlanlooklike?

Natalie: Thebeginningofitisfirst,literally...ItgetsmoreintomystoryandsharingsomeotherpeoplesstoriesandalsotalkingaboutthatfirststepbecauseIthinkit'ssoimportant,aboutbecomingyourauthenticself,creatingavision,andwritingoutgoals.Idon'tcarewhatthedietis,ifyoudon'thavethatdialedin,youcan'tsticktoit.It'ssoimportant.Yougottogetyourmindright.So,IreallydivedeepintothatwhereIthinkalotofdiet,ornutritionbooks,outthere,theyliketaponthatbuttheydon'treallydiveintothat.Iactuallyhavethingsyouhavetodo,likelittleworkshopsthatyouhavetofilloutjusttogetinthatrightmindset.ThenIexplain.Idon'tlovejustgivingaplanwithoutexplainingwhythingsarehappening,andIdidn'twanttoexplainittooscience-techybecausethere'speoplelikeyouthatcandothatamazing,that'snotmystrength.

Dave: It'salsoboringifyoudoittoomuch.Ihadtotakeitoutof"TheBulletproofDiet."I'mageek,right,butmostpeoplearelike,"Tellmewhattoeatalready.ForGod'ssake,shutup."Youmighthavefueledthepeoplebetter.

Natalie: No.Ijustdidn'twanttoputanythinginmybookthatwasnotbackedbyresearch.So,everythingisbackedbyresearch.Iwantedtogettothepoint,andIwantedtorememberwhoIwastalkingto.I'mtalkingtothepersonwhowaswhereIwas,thepersonthatis30-50poundsoverweight,who'seatingprocessedfood.Theydon'tunderstandthisreallyamazingnutrition,they'rejustlearningtoun-processtheirdiet.Iwantedtotalktothem,soIexplainedthings.Iexplainedwhathappenswhenyoueatartificialsweeteners,whathappenstoyourbodywhenyoueattoomanystarchycarbs,whathappenstoyourbodywhenyoudon'teatenoughfat.Ijustexplainitsotheyunderstandandthathelpsthemunderstandwhythey'redoingthingsbeforethey'refollowingamealplan.

ThenIactuallylayouta7-daymealplanandit'soptional.Isay,"Youcanreadtherestofthisanddoityourself,"orsomepeoplewanttheblackandwhitetellmewhattodo,or"Youcouldfollowthis."Ireallybreakmealsdownjustverysimple:fats,carbs,andprotein.Teachingwhatthatisandeverythingisbasedonafoodthatoncegrew.Soit'srealnaturalfoods.Idon'tputanyrulesabouttimeofday.IknowsomepeoplewanttodoBulletproofinthemorningandnoteatfooduntilalotlater,andthat'sfine.Igetthatpeoplewanttoeattheirmealseveryfewhoursversusspreadingthemout.IexplainwhyIdon'tdotheeveryfewhours,butIletpeoplechoosebecauseit'sbeginnerstepsfirst.Letmeteachyouhowtoun-processyourdiet,letmeshowyouhowgreatyou'regoingtofeeldoingthat,andthenwecangetintothemoreadvancedstuff.

ThenIhave77recipestoshowpeoplethatun-processedfoodcantasteamazing,youdon'tneedho-hosorTwinkies.Youcanhaverealfoodthattastesamazing,that'sgoodforyou.7guilt-freedesserts.ThenIhave7bodyweightworkoutsthatare7minuteseachbecauseIalsowantedtoshowpeoplethatyoudon'thavetogotothegymandbeatyourselfupforhours.

Dave: AreyoulikeaBlackJackplayer?

Natalie: No,I'mnot.I'mRoulette,Iputeverythingon-


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Dave: You'relike,"3times7is21."I'mlike,"Wheredidthe7scomefrom?"There'sgottobeanangle

here.

Natalie: Well7'salwaysbeenmyfavoritenumber,Idon'tknowwhy,butbecauseIcalledit"7-DayJumpStart,"Ijustlikedthewholestickingwith7.

Dave: Youjusttripleddownonthe7s.Ilikeit.It'sgotthe...It'sfascinating.

Natalie: Ididn'twanttocallitlike,"666."Igottostaypositive.

Dave: I'mtellingyou,ifyouwentwiththeevildiet,you'dprobablyhaveareallybigbrand.I'mjustsaying.

Natalie: Ihonestlywantedtocallitjust,"Un-ProcessYourDiet."ThatwasthenameIwantedbecausethat'sreallywhatitis,un-processyourdiet.Wewentwith"7-DayJumpStart,"becausethat'sthebookIinitiallydidthathadsomuchsuccess,soeveryonefeltitbesttokeepitbrandedwiththat.

Dave: Let'stalkaboutwhatun-processingreallyisbecausecookingiskindofaprocess.

Natalie: Yes.Totally.So,you'dprobablynotagree100%withmydefinition-

Dave: Wedon'thavetoagree.Ijustwanttotalk.

Natalie: Again,I'mtalkingtothemasses.So,yes,technicallyun-processedisraw,natural,you'repickingitoffthetreeandyou'reeatingit.Thatcouldbe-

Dave: YouhavetobenakedinthesunshineandgetyourvitaminD.It'stotallyproven,there's3studies.Youcouldgoextreme.

Natalie: Nofakelightatnightunlessyouhaveyourbluelightglassesoneither.BasicallyanythingthatoncegreworyoucouldpronounceiswhatIstartwith.So,ifitoncegrew,thatisagoodchoice,andifit'scomingfromapackage,whichisnotmychoice,butifitis,whatisinit?Doyouknowwhatthoseingredientsare?Canyoudefinethem?Aretheyreal?Thisisprobablyafunnyexample,butI'mgoingtosayicecream.Ifyou'regoingtoeaticecream,Iwantyoueatingtherealthingwith3ingredients,notthefat-free,sugar-free,fakeyogurtbecausewecan'tdefinewhat'sinthat.So,Iwantrealingredientsthatoncegrewandyoucandefineandthenwecanadvancefromthere.Ithink,andI'mguiltyofittoo,Igetsocaughtupinthisamazingnutritionandallthenewresearchandwhat'soutthere,butthenwhatthatdoesisthatalienatespeoplethatarejuststartingbecauseit'soverwhelmingforthem.

So,whenIsay"un-process,"I'mjustunraveling.I'mgettingyouawayfromtheDoritos.Let'sstopthat.Let'sstarteatingmorenaturalagain.

Dave: Thatisanamazingfirststep,andthere'sallsortsofreasonsyoumightnotwanttoeatpotatoes.


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Youcantalkaboutcarbohydrates,youcantalkaboutotherreasons.There'sabookcalled"ThePotatoHack,"thatactuallytalksaboutonlyeatingpotatoes.There'sargumentsonbothsides,buthere'sthething,eatingapotatochipthatcamefromafactoryfriedincrapversusbakingapotatoormakingyourownpotatochipintheovenorevenfryingityourselfingoodoil,there'sjustadifference.I'mnotevensurewecanquantifywhatthedifferenceis,butyou'llfeelbetterifyoumakeityourself.

Natalie: It'sbabysteps.It'sjustlike...Ieatorganic.I'mahugefanoforganiceating.WouldItellsomebody...Ifthechoicewastoeatorganicfruitsandvegetablesornoteatvegetablesatallbecausetheironlychoicehappenstobenotorganic,I'mgoingtotellthemtomake...It'sbabysteps.That'swhatItalkabout.So,ifyou'reeatingcandyandjunk,thenextbeststepiswhat?Thenthenextbeststepiswhat?Youcanreallygetpickyandyoucanmovedownthelineandhavethisperfectdietlater,butyougottostartsomewhere.Tome,peoplegivingupdietsodaandstartingtoreadingredientsandunderstandwhatthingsarethatthey'reputtingintheirbody,that'sahuge,hugefirststep.Iwanttoshowpeoplethatit'spossiblebecauseIthinkthatsomeofthedietsoutthere,theyreallyoverwhelmpeople.It'stoohardtostartbecauseit'slike,"Thisisextreme."

Dave: It'stotallytrue.There'salotthathappenswhenyougotojustanormalperson'shouse...Iusedtodothiswithclientsandevenjustwithfriends,andyoutake2largeblacktrashbags,youwalkintothekitchen,andyouopenthecabinetsandyou'relike,"Thisisgoingtothefoodbankbecausemostofitisn'tfood."IhavequestionsaboutthisandpeoplewillthinkI'mnuts.Ifyougotosomeone'shouseandthisisn'tfoodandyoutakethefoodout,Idon'twanttocompostit,thisisalsogoingtopisspeopleoff,ifyoumakecompostoutofprocessedfood,youknowwhatyouget?Yougetcrappysoilanditdoesn'tgrowgoodfood-

Natalie: Iagree

Dave: Industrialcompostingthings,justbecauseitlookslikedirt,doesn'tmeanit'susefuldirt.Sorry.Youputantibiotictaintedcrapinthesoil,thesoilwon'thavehealthybacteria.Thisishowitis.Youputglyphosateinthere,it'sruined.DoIreallywanttogivebagsofcornchipsandseriouslyfakefoodstopeoplewhoarelessfortunate?Iactuallywouldrathergivethemwholesomefoodandgrass-fedbutter-

Natalie: I'mlikeyou

Dave: Ifsomeone'sreallyhungry,it'sprobablybetterthattheyeatsomethingratherthannothing.So,I'dbringittothefoodbank.Whenyougoinandyouemptythat...Thatistraumatic.Youjustgaveaway$500worthofstaplefoods,eventhoughIwouldcallthemstaple"foods"withfakequotesaroundthefoodsbecauseyoushouldn'tbeeatingthem.Yourbookhelpspeoplesee,"Allright.I'mgoingtohavetomakesomechangesthere,"andthatchangealoneisbig,muchless"YoushouldhavenothingbutfatsinthemorningandtryintermittentBulletproofstyle."That'saprettyadvancedtechnique.

Natalie: Ithinkthey'regreat.It'sgreatadvancedtechnique,butIliketobabystepfirst.Onlybecausetheycan'tgetthereyet.


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Dave: Yeah.Babystepisactuallyreallybigstep.That'sthepoint.Alotofpeople,they'llnevertryall

theadvancedstuff,butjustmakingthechangesyouweretalkingabout,eatingrealfoodthat'snotprocessedorbetteryet,processingityourselfinthisthingcalledastove.That'sactuallyarevolutionaryactwhenyoudoit.BuyingfreshstufffromthepersonwhogrewitinsteadoffromChina,it'salsorevolutionary.Ithinkyou'vehelpedalotofpeoplewithyour19e-booksalreadyjustmakethatchange.

Natalie: Thankyou.Iwassoadamantaboutusingtheword'un-process'becausethat'sreallyhowIfeelthingsneedtogo.Thingshavegottenoutofcontrolwiththefat-free,andthesugar-free,thenthe"everything'skillingus,"thenwegottojuiceclean.It'slikethere'ssomuchoutthereandeveryplacehasapointandIgetitbutwe'vereallygottenawayfromsomemajorthingsthatpeopleneedtochangelikeartificialsweeteners.Whyarepeoplefollowingthesecrazydietsandstilldrinkingdietsoda?Idon'tgetit.So,Ineededtoexplainwhat'shappeningwithartificialsweeteners.

Dave: Myfavoritethingisthenewtrendinfoodwhichisfood-free.They'relike,"It'salow-caloriesnack."You'relike,"Youknowwhatthatmeans.Thatmeansthere'slessfoodinthere."Itmightprocessed,itmightnotbeprocessed,butifit'slow-calorieitmeansthatyou'repayingmoremoneytogetlessfoodandthat'sstupid.

Natalie: Icringeatfat-free,sugar-freebecauseI'mlike,"Whattheheckisintherethen?Whataretheyputtinginthere?"

Dave: Soybeans...

Natalie: Yeah.Whatpeopledon'trealizetoois,whatIfeellikeIreallydialedinoninthebook,Ihaveabigthingaboutartificialsweeteners.Yourbodythinksit'sgettingthosecaloriestoosoofcourseyou'regoingtocravemoreandbebloatedandwantmore.Asidefromeverythingelseitdoeswrongtoyourbody,they'rewonderingwhythey'restillsohungrywhenyoueatrealfoodsandthatdoesn'thappen.

Dave: YougetthisneurologicalcravingthatcomesfromNutra-Sweetespecially.Thatstuffissobad.WhenIwastryingtolosemy100pounds,Iwasworkingoutlike6daysaweek,butIwasdrinkingbigdietsodasbecauseIdidn'twantthecaloriesandIwasreallystruggling.IthoughtIhaditdownandthisoneday,rightbeforetheafternoonclasses,Iwenttotheuniversitysodamachine,andI'mlike,"I'mgoingtobereallygoodtoday.I'mgoingtodrinkadietsodainsteadofevenputtingalittlebitofsodaintherebecauseI'mnotgoingtoeatsugar.I'mgoingtowin."Idrankthis,Idon'tknow,hundredthousandgallon...Itwaslikeavatofdietsoda.

I'msittinginclassandIstartedtolikehallucinate.IkindoffeltlikemyeyeswerecrossingandIwasdroolingonmyselfandtheteacherwaslookingatmefunny.Iwaslike,"Waitaminute.That'swhatthedietsodadidtome."Ihadoverdosedonanemptystomachondietsoda,andthatwasthelevelofsignalthatittookmetogo,"MaybeIshouldbackoffonthatstuff.It'smessingmeup."Formeitreallywatershedmyon-the-scaleweight.


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Ithasaneffect,butmostpeopledon'tknowthatithasaneffectbecausetheyneverhitthatcrazydoseonanemptystomach.It'sjustbadnews.Whenyoudothescience,likeyou'vetalkedaboutinyourbookwithoutnecessarilyallthedeepreferences,butjustsaying,"Here'swhatitdoestoyou."Cool,man.Everyoneshouldknowthis.Everyoneinthecountry,everyoneontheplanetshouldknowifacompanytriestosellyouthoseartificialthings,they'renotdoingitforyourbestinterestandiftheytellyouit'sinyourownbestinterest,that'sactuallyevil.Youcan'tdothat.

Natalie: Yeah.It'snotokay.Ialsodon'texpectpeopletobeperfect.What'sreallyniceaboutanun-processedfooddietiswhenyouareeatingcleanandnaturalfoods,whenyoudohavethatjunkfoodwhatever,youmightfeelgoodforamoment,butwhathappensisyoustarttorealizewhatitdoestoyouandhowyoufeelafter.Yourtastechangesforit.Ittastesdifferent.Whenyougetusedtogettingyoursweetsfromfruitforinstance,andthenyougoeatcandy,ittastesfunnytoeatapieceoflicorice.Itjusttastesdifferent.Ittastesfake.Ittakesyoueatingnaturalandcleantogetthat.I'mhuman.ItelleverybodyIshouldbesponsoredbyReese'sPiecesbecausethat'stheworstthingforyouever,butonetimeamonth,Isendmyhusband...I'mlike,"Ineedthemrightnow."ImighteatthemandthenIneverfeelgoodafteranditremindsmewhyIdon'tdoit.

Dave: Whichcolordoyoueatfirst?

Natalie: Idon'tknow.Allthebadones.It'snotgoodforme,butit'slikemyone...Whateveritisfrombeingakidorsomething,ifIreallyamfeelingIneedsomething,Iwantthat,andIneverfeelgoodafter.Youdoit,andyou'relike,"WhytheheckdidIdothat?"Iteachpeoplethatyoumoveon.Everyone'shuman.Youdothings.Whenyou'reeating,it'swhatyou99%ofthetime,andwhenyou'redoingthat,yourbodyreactsquicklyandyourememberwhyyoudon'twanttodoitagain.Atleastforamonth.

Dave: Thatreminderthingin"TheBulletproofDiet"book,I'mlike"Trythisforacoupleweeksandthenjusthavepizzaandbeerandwakeupthenextmorningandtellmeitdidn'twork."You'regoingtofeellike,"Ahh!"Itjustruinsyou.Thatwasalwayshappening.Nowyou'venoticed.You'redoingthesamething.Youcutouttheprocessedfoodsandyouaddsomethingbackin.Iimaginethatalotofyourfollowers,theymightgooutandhavealittlebitmorethanReese'sPieces,butnowyou'veactuallyfeltthedifference.Thebigfoodindustrywouldlovetohaveyougooutandtryonethingatatimeandyou'llneverexperienceanydifference."Ohyeah,Icutoutthisonelittlething."Nah.Youhavetocutoutthegroupofthingsthatcausetroubleandthey'realmostallprocessed.

Natalie: ThisHalloweenwasfunnybecauseIhadn'thadlikesugar,foodcoloring,candyjunkinalongtime,butmydaughter...Trick-or-treating,whatever,andshehadthestuffandshewantedtotrystuff.Iletmydaughterdowhatshewants.Ijusteducateheronwhat'sit'sdoingandlethermakeherdecisions.Igrabbedsomeofit,itwaslikeLaffyTaffyorsomething,andIwasthinking,"Oh.Thisisgoingtobesogood.Irememberitasakid,"andIbititanditwasgrosstomebecauseI'mnotusedtothatartificialsweetnessanymore.Ireallyrealizedhowfaroffwehavegottenwithourtasteandwhatwe...It'sjustamess.Tome,fruitiscompletelysweettome.IfI'mgoingtohavefruit,that'sallIneedifIwantsugar.


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Dave: Yeahfruithasplentyofsugarinthere.IrememberIwasinPeruandIwenttoLima,thatbigcity,

millionsofpeople.Therewastheselikefruitvendorcartsexceptthey'reallsellingKit-KatsandSnickers.Theyliterallystoppedsellingfruitbecauseitwastoomuchworktogetinthecity.ThenyougetonthislittleplaneandyouflytoCusco,whichisasmalltown,andthey'restillsellingfruitandyoucanseeadifferenceinthepopulation.Like,"Okay.Areyoueatingfoodorareyoueatingpackagedcrap?"You'rehappierwhenyoueatrealfoods.

Natalie: Totally.

Dave: Youdosomethingelsetoo.You'reCeliacandyourecommendthateveryone,includingnon-Celiacs,begluten-freewhenthey'regoingun-processed.Whydoyourecommendgluten-freeforeveryone?

Natalie: Okay.So,firstofall,Idon'tnecessarilyrecommendgluten-freeforeveryone,butIrecommendun-processedfoodforeveryone.Whenyoueatanun-processedfooddiet,you'reprettymucheatinggluten-freeanyway.Iwantedtoexplainthatbecausejustgoingagluten-freedietcouldmeanaprocessedgluten-freediet,andthere'salotofpeoplethatgoonagluten-freedietandgainweightandgetsickandType2diabetesgoesup.That'sjunk.It'salmostworstjunkthanthegluten-containingjunksometimes.

Dave: Youcanactuallyhaveonlycornchipsandcokeandbegluten-freeandveganactually.Vegangluten-freedietrightthere.

Natalie: Thereyougo.Perfect.Ikindofgotawayfromusingtheword,"gluten-free,"becausewhenIwasdiagnosedwithCeliac,thiswasyearsago,nooneknewwhatglutenwas.Nowit'slikethistrendythingandeveryoneisgluten-free."Oh.Gluten-freedonuts.I'mfine.I'meatinggluten-free."No.It'snotfine.Idothinkthatifanyonehasanautoimmunedisease,glutenhastocomeout.It'samustinmymind,butIwouldsaywhenyoueatanaturalun-processedfood,bymydefinition,thewayIeat,thereisnogluteninthat.There'snogluteninfruits,orvegetables,ormeats,ornuts,orseeds,oroils,orinBulletproofcoffee.There'snogluteninthat.

Dave: Right.Exactly.

Natalie: So,it'sgluten-free.Irecommendeveryoneeatanun-processedfooddiet.

Dave: Ilovethat.ItmakesmecrazywhenIseethesebiggluten-freestickers.Idosomethingkindofsarcastic.I'mworkingonre-releasingabottleofwater,andIabsolutelyputagluten-freebadgeonit.It'sfreakinghilarious.Dude,it'swater.It'sahumoritem.Also,there'saveganthingonit.

Natalie: I'llputthatonallmyheadphoneandallmyDVDs.OnmyDVDsI'mgoingtowrite"gluten-free."

Dave: It'slikemywaterisveganandmy...Idon'tevencareifit'sveganornot.Idon'tconsiderplant-basedoranimal-basedtobeausefulmonikerbecausewell,myfavoriteanimalproteininspidervenomandmyfavoritevegetableproteinissarin,thenervegas.So,clearlyplantsandanimalsarealltoxicandwecan'teatanythingsoweshouldjustbedonewithit.Thosebadgesarekind


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offunny.Itdoesn'tmeanhealthy.Itdoesn'tmeananything,butit'stechnicallytrue.So,heylet'suseit,right?

Natalie: That'sfunny.Igotawayfromtheword"gluten-free"becauseI,asaCeliac,wasoverit,andalmostamembarrassedifIgotoarestaurantnowandI'morderingwhatIthinkwillbefineformeandIhavetosay,"Canyoujustconfirmthat'sit'sgluten-free?"IfeellikeI'mtheannoyingperson.Idon'tlikethatnow.So,I'mgettingawayfromit.I'mcoiningthename"un-processed."Ilikeitbetter.

Dave: Thedefinitionofgluten-freeisalsosubjecttoregulatoryapproval.Thiswasmaybe10yearsago,Ihadmyfirstchance,Ifinallygotenoughpoints...IusedtocommutefromCaliforniatoCambridge,England,whichisahorriblecommute.Ididiteverymonth.Idon'trememberhowmanyhoursofflyingitis,butitwastimezonesandjetlag.IfinallygotmyupgradetoVirginAtlanticUpperclass,youknowthepurpleseatsandchairwithenoughlegroom,finallyfromEconomy.Iorderedthegluten-freemeal,itcomesoutontheseniceplates.Theywerelike,"Oh.You'regluten-free."TheybringmethisrollandIturnedthepackageover.Therollismadeoutofwheatstarch.Ithas60mgofgluteninthegluten-freeroll.It'sbelowtheregulatorydefinitionofglutenthereforeit'sgluten-free.I'mlike,"Stickaforkinmyeyeguys.Whatever.I'lljusteatthebutter."Infact,thatwasthetripwhereIcameupwiththename"Bulletproof."AguynamedHerbKimwassittingnexttome.Wegottotalkingandhegavemetheidea.Itwaskindofcool.

Thatdefinitionofgluten-free,itdoesn'tmeananything.Yougottowatchout,likewhat'sinthereversusit'sfreeofthis.Ifthey'retellingyouit'sfreeofsomething,they'retryingtodistractyoufromknowingwhat'sactuallyinthere,whichiswhat'smostimportant.

Natalie: Okay.Here'smyotherpetpeeveaboutgluten-free.Ihatewhensomeonesays,"IthinkI'mgluten-sensitive,orI'mCeliac,orI'mgluten-intolerant,soIamgoingtogetabloodtest.Mydoctorwantsmetoeatlotsofglutenthisweeksoitwillshowupinmybloodtest."Tome,I'mlike,"Justtakeitoutofyourdiet.Ifyoufeelbetter,youhaveyouranswer.So,youwanttoputmorepoisoninyoutoseeifyouhaveareactiontoit?That'sridiculous.Justlikebeingsensitivetolactose,justtakeitout.Wedon'tneeditinourdiets.

Dave: Yeah.Ididthesamething.I'mlike,"Look.SomepeoplehaveCeliac,butsomeotherpeoplehavelong-term,20yearplusautoimmunereactionstoit."There'snoargumentforincludingitinyourdietexcept,"I'mlazy."Atthispointthere'slotsofotherbettersourcesofnutrition.So,ifyourstarvingandyoucan'taffordtonoteatwheat,theneatwheat.It'sgreat.Starvationisreallybadforyou.Otherwisethough,moveawayfromit.

Natalie: Yeah.What'sthepoint?There'snoreason.Ifyouhavetohavestarches,I'dratheryouhaverice,potatoes...Addsomethingwithoutglutenanyway.

Dave: Exactly.It'snotanidealfoodforhumans,sowhenyouun-processyourdietandyou'redoingthe7-dayJumpStartPlan,allright,cool.Yougotpeopletotryit,andmaybetheyonlykindofdidit.That'scool.


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Iwanttoknowmoreaboutyourdiet.PeoplelisteningtoBulletproofRadioarealwaysinterestedinthelatesthacksfortheirdietandallthatstuff.Whataboutgettingyourbodyintofat-burningmode?Whatdoyoutalkaboutinplanningthat?

Natalie: Ohmygosh.Okay.Icoulddownsomanyroadsonthis,butthisishowItalktomypeoplebecauseIwantittobeassimpleaspossible.Firstofall,youhavetoconsumelessthanyou'reburningoff.Thatjustisverybasicelementaryschoolinformation,butIthinkalotofpeoplemisstheboatcountingallthesethingsandtryingtomeasurealltheseexactportionsandthenthey'rejustnotactiveatall.Itellpeople,"Youwanttoeathealthy,butyougottomoveyourbodytoo.You'vegottomovebecausewe'vegottogetourbodiesmovinginsteadofjustsittingallday,whichishorribleforus,andjusteating.Ifwe'reeatingmorethanwe'reburningoff,we'regoingtohaveaproblemrightthere."

Ialsotalkaboutthatyouhavetoeatfattogetridoffat.JustlikeIwouldtellyoutodrinkwatertonotbebloated.Ifyourbody'snotgettingit,it'sgoingholdontothings.Ihatepeoplethatsay,wellIdon'thateanybody,butIhatethewholefat-freecraze.Ieatalotoffat,alotofit.ThemorefatIeat,guesswhat?ThemorefatIburnoff.I'mnotstoringitwhenI'meatingit.Ikeepitverybasiclikethat.I'mnotafanofeliminatingfoodgroupsentirely-

Dave: Natalie...

Natalie: Yep?

Dave: It'speoplelikeyouwhoareincreasingthepriceofbutter.Ifyouwouldjuststoptalkingaboutthishigh-fatthing,I'dreallyappreciateit.Okay?

Natalie: It'sfunnybecauseyougotmehookedoncoffeewithGheeinit.That'sallyouandI'vebeensharingthatalotonmySnapchatsandsocialmedia.Igetsomanypeoplelike,"Whatareyou...You'reputtingGhee?Thatcausesheartdisease."I'mlike,"No.Itdoesn't.That'ssucholdinformation.No."So,Ifeellikethere'sjustsomucholdmisinformationouttherenowandweneedtoeatrealfoods,weneedtoeatfat,weneedtoeatprotein,weneedtoeatcarbs,andcarbsarenotDoritos.Carbscanbevegetablesandprotein.Youhavetoeatfoodsforyourbodytooperatethatway,soit'snotstoringfat,it'sburningit.That'sverybasic,butthat'sprettymuchhowIliketoexplainit.

Dave: Evenifyou'renotinketosis,whichisabigpartofwhatIrecommendgoinginandgoingout,youstillhavetoeatenoughfattoburnfat.Ifyou'reonlyeatingsugar,you'rebody'slike,"Igottostorethisstuffasfat."CertainkindsoffatlikeBrainOctane,specifically,itcanbestoredasfatinthebody.Mostfatcanbestoredasfat,itdoesn'tmeanitwillbe,butitcanbe.I'mafanofincludingthingsinthecoffeerecipe.I'mlike,"Okay.Thisgivesyouenergyanditjustwon'tgetthereonyourhipsoronyourbellyorwhereveryoudon'twantittogo."Thatlittlehackformehasbeenabigone.

Natalie: MybigthingformethatIliketosay...Ihatewhensomeonesays,"Oh.Docarrotsmakeyoufat?"Or"Doescoconutoilmakeyoufat?"Or"WillMCToilmakeyoufat?"WhatIsayis,"Eatingtoomuchprocessedfoodandnotmovingyourbodyiswhatmakesyoufat."Inactivity.Those


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arethe2thingsthatmakepeopleobese.Now,wecangetintointermittentfasting,orketosis,there'sallkindsofthingswecouldgodownanddiscuss.Thebottomlineiseveniftheydon'tdoputtingthemselvesintoketosis,iftheydothebasics,they'renotgoingtobeobese.It'sveryhardtobeobesedoingthenaturalwayofwayofeating,eatingthesefoods.

Dave: That'stotallytrue.Whatdoyouhaveforbreakfast?

Natalie: Well,beforeImetyou,orafter,becausebeforeImetyou,Iknewmyplans.IhavedifferentthingsthatIliketodo.Ihavemystapleoflike4differentbreakfasts.OneofmyfavoritethingsisIdoanaturalturkeysausage.Itsounds...Iknowthat'sprocessed,butit'sonethatIknoweveryingredientinit.It'sanaturalandIcookitwithMCToilalittlebit,andthenIdoabigsideofberriesandfruit.I'mgettingmyfats,myproteininthat.That'sonebreakfastthatIlovetohave.Ilovetodoeggsandavocadoandfruit.That'sanotheronethatI'vedone.

Now,quitefrankly,I'vegottenaddictedtoyourBulletproof.IhopeI'mnotintrouble,butI'vedoneitnotquitetherightway.Infact,youhavefansthatcommentonmineandarelike,"That'snottrueBulletproof."I'mlike,"Okay.I'mtrying."So,Iuse...Thisismynewfavoritebreakfast,andmyentireteamtextsmeinthemorningandarelike,"Areyoumakingthecoffee?"WhatIdoisItaketheBulletproofcoffeeandI...IthinkItoldyoulasttimeItalkedtoyou,Ihadneverhadcoffeeinmylifeuntillikeamonthago.Istartedlisteningtoyouandnoweverybody'shookedoncoffeehere.So,Iuse-

Dave: We'llsendyousomemore.

Natalie: IuseyourcoffeeandIadditintheblenderwiththeMCToil,butIdo-

Dave: AreyouusingBrainOctaneorMCT?

Natalie: YourBrainOctane.

Dave: Okay.BrainOctaneislikeasubcategoryofMCT.Cool.

Natalie: So,I'musingBrainOctane,sorry,specificallyBrainOctane.Idon'tusethe2tablespoons.Iuseprobablyateaspoontoafulltablespoonofthat,thenIaddatablespoonofGhee,andthenIdoafullscoopofanaturalchocolatewheyprotein,andthenIaddaspecialcacaoIlike.So,that'smylittleconcoctionandIblenditup.That'smyaddictioninthemorningsrightnow.

Dave: You'vedefinitelygotalltherealBulletproofingredientsbecauseyou'vegotbutter-

Natalie: ButIdidn'tdorightratios.Iknowthat.

Dave: Yeah,butratiosvarybyperson.Someofthecrazy,calorie-countingcriticsarelike,"There's430caloriesinBulletproofcoffee."Thisisgoingtosoundradical,butjustcheckthisout,a90poundwomanwillputlessfatinhercoffeethana300poundbodybuilder.Youknowwhat?It'sthesamethingwhentheyputscoopsofscrambledeggsontheirplate,thebodybuilderputsmorecaloriesonhisplateandthelighterwomanputslesscaloriesonherplatebecausetheamount


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offoodyoueatisn'tactuallyfixed.It'sabaseofwhat'syourbasalmetabolicrate,howmuchdoyoumove,andhowbigareyou?I'mlike,"Thosematter.So,yesI'llhave400calories,butI'mlike200pounds.Ifyouhave400calories,itmightnotbegood."

Natalie: It'ssogoodandthenIputitinmyVitamixandIhavetoputitonsuperhighspeedbecauseitmakesitreallyfrothy.Ican'tdotheraw...DidIhearyousayyoucanputarawegginit?That'snotgoingtohappen.Ican'tdothat.

Dave: Well,itgetsslightlycookedwhenit'sinthehotcoffee-

Natalie: Okay.Youjustputthewhey...

Dave: It'sinvisiblewhenit'sinthere.Youwouldneverknow.It'sjustalittlebitfrothier.

Natalie: Anotherthing...There'slotsofdifferentwaysI'vedonebreakfast,butalotof...OnethingIdolove...Abigweaknesstomewasalwaysgranola,butIdon'twanttoeatgranola.So,IgetaverynaturalbrandofitandIuse...TheservingsizeIthinkis3/4cupsandIuse1/4cupofit,butItrickit.Itake1/4cupofgranolaandItakeabunchofwalnutschoppedupandthenItakealotofstrawberriesandberriesinthereandthenItakeshreddedcoconutandcacaonips,thenIaddalittlebitofcoconutmilk.That'sanotherbreakfastI'lldo.It'sabouttakingthenaturalfoods.Istillgetthecrunch-factororwhatever,butIgottosay,latelyI'mprettyaddictedtothecoffee.That'slikemygo-toeveryday.It'sgoingtohavetogoinmynextbookbecauseIloveit,andit'sjustmynewfavoritecravinginthemorning.

Dave: Youcandolikesomeofyourgranolastuffwiththecoffee-

Natalie: Well,Iusuallyaddstrawberries,soIwasn'tcompletelyhonest.Ihavetohavesomeberriestoo.

Dave: Thattotallyworks,right?So,youcanbuildthecoffeein.Whatkindofgivesmeindigestionis-

Natalie: It'sanewbrandforyou.Youcancallit"Build-A-Coffee,"andit'llbeforpeoplelikemethatjustdon'tlistencompletelyandjustmodifyit.Build-A-Coffee.

Dave: You'regettingtheimportant...YougettheBrainOctane,yougetthecleanbeans,soyoudon'tgetthefoodcravinglaterfromthecoffeecrash.Peopleputallsortsofweirdstuffthere.Someoneputbaconintheotherday.I'mlike,"That'snotgood."Idid...I'vetriedtallow-

Natalie: Haveyouputthecacaointherethough?It'sreallygoodlikethat.

Dave: Wemakeacacaopowder.Alab-testedrawoneandI'llusethatformocha.IntheBulletproofcoffeeshopwedothat.Weaddnibstosomethings,andweusethecollagenproteinthat'sheatstablewhichisanotherhackforit.It'slikethatbasicthingwhereyougetthecleancoffee,yougettheBrainOctane,andalittlebitofbutterbecauseithasstuffinitthat'sreallygoodforyou.

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Dave: ButterofGhee,yeah.Gheeisactuallybetterthanbutterfromanutritionalprofile.Fromafrothyperspective,GheeisnotasfrothyasbutterwhichiswhyIrecommendbutterformostpeople.It'sprettywell-toleratedandit'sjustlikeaslightflavoredge.You'rechoosingtherightthing-

Natalie: I'mgoingtogobacktothoseInstagramcommentsandI'mgoingtosayyouapprovebecauseIhaveallkindsofDavefansgoing,"That'snotthecorrectwaytodothis."

Dave: Here'stheotherthingthattrueBulletprooffanswillsayaboutthat,they'llsay,"Look.Wheyproteinisn'tveryheat-stable,soifyou'regoingtogotothetroublebuyingahigh-quality,low-temperatureprocessedwhey..."Imanufacturethiscrazywheywithextracolostrumandstuff.Theywheydoesn'tbenefitfromheavyblendbecauseitbreaksupthepeptides,assumingyouhaveactuallyhavepeptidesinyourwhey,anditdoesn'tsetuptoheatverywell.So,whatatruecrazyBulletproofpersonwoulddoistheywouldblendthecoffeeandtheoilsfirstwhichallowstheheattodropinthecoffee-

Natalie: That'swhatIdo.Thereyougo.

Dave: Youaddthewhey...Igenerallysaydon'treallyputwheyincoffeebecauseoftheheatthing,butifthecoffee'scooledabit,youaddthewheyattheendandthenpulseitalittlebittogetthewheymixedinbutnotblendthecrapoutofthewhey.That'sprettydarnBulletproof.Icouldgoforthat.

Natalie: I'mNatalieJill.I'mjustun-processing.See,I'mun-processing.So,I'mnotperfection.Look,Ididn'tevendocoffeebefore,soI'mcomingalongway.

Dave: Youhavecomesofarandlookathowamazingyoulooknowthatyou'reoncoffee.Youlooktwiceasgoodaslasttimewetalked.

Natalie: I'mhappy.Yeah,that'sright.I'myoungernow.Idropped10years.It'samazing.

Dave: Yeah,you'reIQdoubled.Igetit.

Natalie: No.Iloveit.Idefinitely...Italkaboutit.It'sonmySnapchat.It'sonmySnapchatthismorning.Youhavetocheckitout.

Dave: That'ssocool.

Natalie: ISnapchatallday.ItshowsmyBulletproof...WhatI'mdoingthere.

Dave: Ihaveaquestion.I'mold,right?

Natalie: You'reyoungerthanmeIthink-

Dave: So,ifI'monSnapchat,doIhavetowearpants?Idon'thavethatdown.


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Natalie: Rememberweweretalkingaboutbeingauthentic,doingthewholeauthentic...WhatIloveaboutSnapchatisit'ssorealandfun.Ishow...Ijusthavefunwithit.It'slikeIembarrassmyselfonthere.Idon'tevencare.It'sfunbecauseyouthinkyou'rejusttalkingtoyourphoneandyoujustforgetthatalotofpeoplearewatching.It'sfunandIstarteverysocialmediasitewithjusthavingfunanditevolves.MysocialmediasalwaysgrowprettyquickbecauseI'mjustrealonthemandSnapchat,tome,islikethemostfun,realoneandpeoplearejustinterestedinwhatI'mdoing.RightbeforewewereonhereISnapchattedthatIwasabouttotalktoyou.Ijustsharewhatever'sgoingon.It'sliketheleasttime-consuming.It'sjustfun.Whateveryouthinkyou'redoing...Showyoursetupforstuff...Peopleareinterested.Theywanttoknowwhat'sreallyhappening.TheywanttoknowifyoueverhaveaReese'sPieces.Theywanttoseeit.Theywanttoknowthefunstuff.

Dave: Iactuallydon'thaveReese'sPieces.Idon'tdoanyofthatstuff.

Natalie: I'mjusttryingtoprojectonyoutomake-

Dave: Idothatlikecoconutagave,Iforgettheirnames,coconuticecreamsometimes.Agavehasfructoseinit,butIdon'teatanyfructoseusually,solikeIdon'treally...Itdoesn'tmatter.

Natalie: Theyjustliketosee.MydogisfamousonSnapchatandsoismyhusband.Imakefunofeverybodyelse.That'swhatyoudowithit,justmakefunofeverybodyelseinyourlife.

Dave: Allright.IgotmySnapchatlesson.

Natalie: Awesome.

Dave: So,talktomeaboutwillpower.You'vedealtwithdepression,you'vedealtwithobesity,you'reclearlyinareallyhappyspace.What'syourtakeonwillpower?

Natalie: So,Ithinkyoucan'tdothingsonwillpoweralone.Youhavetohaveabiggerpictureorabigger"Why?"Youneedtoknowwhyyouwanttodothings.Like,withyou,yousaidyouweredealingwithAsperger'sandallthesethingsgoingonandyouknewthatyoudidn'twanttofeelthatway.Forme,I'm44,andI'maproud44.Ifeel20.Ifeelgood.Iamhappy.Ilovewhenpeoplesay,"Youlookgreatfor44."IlikethatIcanplaywithmydaughterattheparkandnotbesittingonthebenchcomplainingaboutachesandpains.There's44yearoldsthatfeel90,andthenthere'smethatfeels20.That'smy"Why?"Iwanttobehereforalongtime,andIwanttohavemywitsaboutmeandbeashealthyasIcan.

Tome,there'ssomuchwecan'tcontrol...There'ssomanythingswecan'tcontrol,butwhynotcontrolwhatwecan?IcancontrolwhatIputinmybody.IcancontrolhowmuchImoveit.So,Idoit.Icontrolthat.Tome,thewillpowerpartisn'tasimportantbecauseIknowmybiggerpicture.

Dave: Ifeellikewhenyoutakethestepsyou'vetakentocontrolthethingsyoucancontrolinyourenvironment,likewhatyouputinyourmouth,itdoesfreeupwillpowerforotherthingsversusjustbeingwhip-sodaroundbywhatyouateinyourlastmealorwhat'sgoingonintheworld


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aroundyou.Buildingpeaceintoyourenvironmentisnotabagthingbecausewhenyougetalittlebitofquiettime,maybeyouperformbetter,maybeyouhavemorewillpower.Itseemstomakesense.

Natalie: Ilikepeopletoknowthateveryone's...Nobody'sperfect.Everyonehastheirdays.Everymonth...There'sdefinitedayswhereIfeeldownor...Imeanit'sjusthuman.Youhavedaysthatarebad,butit'saboutmakinggoodchoicessoyoucangetthemajorityofyourlifegreat.Thatdoesn'tmeanyou'renevergoingtothrowyourbackoutoryou'renevergoingto...Thingshappeninlife,butyoujustmakethebestchoicesyoucanwhileyoucan.

Dave: Very,verywellsaid.Well,Natalie,I'mreallycurioushowyou'regoingtoanswerthefinalquestionoftheinterview.

Natalie: I'mscared.

Dave: ImeanIdon'tknowifyou...Hopefullyyoudidn'tprepareaheadoftime,becauseit'smorefunifyoudon't.Ifsomeonecameuptoyoutomorrowandsaid,"Natalie,basedoneverythingyou'velearnedinyourlife,Iwantyouradvice.Iwanttoperformbetteroneverything.Whatarethe3mostimportantthingsIneedtoknow?"

Natalie: Ohmygosh.Ilovethisquestion.Okay.God.Ihavelikeahundred.Thefirstthing,beaccountable.It'snooneelse'sfault.Yougottodroptheblamegame.I'msosickofpeopleblamingeverybodyelseforwhat'swrongwiththem.That'snotgoingtohelpthem.Yougottodropitandjustbeaccountablenomatterwhatitis.Thingsmightbetougherforyou,theymightbeharder,youmighthavemoreuphillstoclimb.Itdoesn'tmatter.Yougottobeaccountable,yougottoownit,anddoit.

Dave: Doyouknowwhocreatedtheblamegame?

Natalie: No.Who?

Dave: Idon'tknow.Whoeveritis,it'stheirfault.

Natalie: Oh.Igetit.

Dave: Sorry.Ijusthadtoblamesomeone.Iwasjustbeingmad.Sorry.

Natalie: Ihatetheblamegame.Mysloganhasalwaysbeen,"ExcusesorSolutions?Youdecide."That'sanotherthing,weallhaveexcuses.Icouldhaveamillionexcuses,butwecouldchoosetotelleverybodyourexcusesandhavevalidationaboutthemandthat,again,changesnothing,orwecouldfindsolutionstothingsandeverythingchanges.That'stheotherthingIwouldsay.

ThethirdthingI'mgoingtosayis...Itsoundssobasic,butit'sjustmovemore.IusedtogetintroubleinschoolasakidbecauseIcouldn'tsitstill.IwasjustalwaysmovingandfidgetyandIwanttogetup.Iwaslabeledeverything.IwasADD,ADHD,whatever.Mydaughtergoesthroughthesamethingrightnowwithherteachers.Teacherswillsay,"She'snotpaying


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attention,"andIwanttosay,"You'rejustboring."It'snother,you'rejustboring.Peoplearesupposedtomove.Ilikethatshemovesaroundandwantstogetupanddoesn'twanttositinoneplace.

Societytendstotellusthatthat'snotokay,thatwe'resupposedtobesittinginacubiclealldayorsittingbehindadeskandsupposedtobelittlerobotsandjustwork,work,workandgorunonthetreadmillforanhour.That'snotwhatourbodiesaredesignedtodo.It'sokay.Idon'tcarewhatyou'reteacherofyourbosstoldyou.Movearoundbecauseinactivityisclosetobeingdead.Justmove.Icouldgoonaboutexerciseprogramsandeverything,butI'lltellyourightnow,ifwejustgotridofourchairsandourcubiclesandthosedesks,alotofobesityproblemswouldgoaway.

Dave: Totallytrue.

Natalie: Alotofhealthproblemswouldgoaway.So,that'smylastthing.

Dave: Well,greatanswers,asIwould'veexpected.Natalie,thankyouforbeingonBulletproofRadio.Willyoutelllistenerswheretheycanfindoutmoreaboutyourbook,moreaboutyou?Youhavesocialstuffeverywhere.Whereshouldpeoplegotoconnectwithyou?

Natalie: Okay.So,nataliejillfitness.com/bookiswhereIwanteveryonetogoinitiallybecausethat'swhereyou'regoingtofindoutwheretogetmybook,whichisavailableeverywhere.That'smywebsite,nataliejillfitness.com.I'moneverysocialmediasite,NatalieJillFit,exceptforYouTubewhichisNatalieJillFitness,butotherthanthat,NatalieJillFit.MybookswillbeinbookstoreseverywhereasofMay3rd.It'savailableatapre-ordernowwithlotsofbonuses.

Dave: That'sNatalie-

Natalie: Jill

Dave: N-A-T-A-L-I-Ejill.com/book

Natalie: Nataliejillfitness.com

Dave: Oh.Sorry.Nataliejillfitness.com/book.

Natalie: Yes.

Dave: We'llincludethatinthetranscripts,sowhenthisgoesliveontheBulletproofwebsitewe'llputalinksoeveryonecanfindit.Noproblem.

Natalie: Thankyou.Thisiswhatlookslike.Canyousee?It'sahardcover.ThisistheGalley,soit'slikethepaper-back,buttheactualbookisahardcover,all-colorcopy,recipes.

Dave: Isthatyou?


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Natalie: That'smewithblonde-hair...Blonde-ish.Nowmyhair'sdarker.It'sgottendarker.

Dave: Okay.That'swhyyoulooksodifferent.Thatislikeasupermodelpicture.That'sawesome.

Natalie: Itis?IwastoldIlooklikeJ-Loonthis.Idon'tknowhowIfeelaboutthat.Thisisme.

Dave: IfpeoplearetellingyouyoulooklikeJ-Lo,Ithinkthatthat'sokay.

Natalie: Okay.Allright.Well,yeah.Idon'tevercutmyhairshort.It'salwayslong,butI'vedefinitelygoneblondetodarkmanytimes.

Dave: IftheysaidyoulookedlikeDonaldTrumporsomeone-

Natalie: That'dbeaproblem...

Dave: That'snotacompliment.Ifyou'relikeJ-Lo,Ithinkyou'redoingallright.I'mprettysure.

Natalie: Allright.That'sme.

Dave: I'mnotthatcool.

Natalie: Ifoughtforthiscover,Dave.Idid.

Dave: Didyou?

Natalie: Ididn'twantlikethestandardstandinginthekitchenallseriouslikeeveryothercookbookandrecipebookandnutritionbook.Ihadtobedifferent.

Dave: Well,coverdesignisadarkart,andIcertainlyhaven'tmastereditatall,soIthinkyoudidwell.

Natalie: Thankyou.

Dave: Beautiful.

Natalie: Thankyou.

Dave: HaveanawesomedayandthanksagainforbeingonBulletproofRadio.

Natalie: Thankstoyou.Thanks.

Dave: Ifyouenjoyedtoday'sshow,dosomethinggood.GoontoiTunesandsay,"Hey.Ilikedthis,"orbetteryet,sharethisepisodeorshareyourfavoriteepisodewithsomeoneyouthinkwouldlikeit.SubscribetoitandheadonovertoNatalieJill'ssiteandpickupacopyofherbookifyou'dliketolearnmoreaboutun-processingyourdiet.

Whileyou'reatit,there'safewotherthingsyoucoulddo.Imentionedatthebeginningofthe


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showacouplethingsyouneedtoknowabout,andI'mgoingtomentionthemagain,because,well,theybothhavemesuperexcited.Bulletproofbars,collagen,BrainOctane,allthegoodstuff.Superportable.Superdelicious.Ifyoueatthemwiththechocolatebar,you'llneverwantaReese'sPiecesagain.Natalie,I'mtalkingtoyouhere.Insta-Mix,becausesometimesyoudon'thavetimetotakebutterandoilandpouritintoyourcoffee.BecauseIliveinCanada,I'mgoingtoshowyousomethingherethatjustpissesmeoff.Seethisone,thecustomspeople,yesI'mtalkingtoyouCanadiancustoms,youopenedmypreciousInsta-Mixandyoucutoneopenbecauseyou'rebastardsandyouputtapeonitthatsaysyouinspectedit.Youknowwhat?Thisisunnecessaryharassmentattheborderforpeoplewhojustwantgrass-fedbutterandBrainOctaneintheircoffee.Gotit?Itisawhitepowder,butit'snotthatkindofwhitepowder.Haveanawesomeday.Evenifyou'retheguythatcutmyInsta-Mixopen.Iforgiveyou.

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